Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2019

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53 voters and 586 votes and 77 shows: this is ILE’s Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2019 a.k.a. “what you’ll be watching to catch up in 2020,” as managed by myself (tabulation, organization and poll-running) and Moka (extremely dope design and images). Each entry will include a link to the program or network’s respective ILX thread, a link to stream the show and an embedded YouTube with a season trailer or a representative clip. For the sake of the page loading easily for everyone, I’d like to request that people please not embed additional YouTubes but instead provide links to favorite scenes.

One more brief point before we start that we might as well call “the sic rule.” As your author is American, the listed provenance and linked website for each show is predominantly going to be for its streaming home in the United States, even when the show hails from elsewhere. Readers are strongly encouraged to provide links for their own local streaming options so that everyone can keep up.

We’ll start small with a four-way, 20 point / 2 vote tie for #74. Once we get past #71, that’ll be the end of our two vote winners.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:00 (five months ago) link

sounds good, cheers for this ulysses and all others that helped!

nxd, Monday, 10 February 2020 15:03 (five months ago) link

TOO LOW but tbh kind of a perfect placement

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:09 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/4Th6DRu.jpg
#74 (Tie) - Nailed It! (Netflix US) - 20 points, 2 votes

Netflix Watch Instantly Recommendation Thread

Nailed It! on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTW0fUlW42I

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:17 (five months ago) link

Yay, glad this is rolling out!

Nailed It! is an interesting case. My kids and I watched it with tears of laughter rolling down our face. But it's basically one joke and after we'd watched four or five episodes we just felt we were seeing the same shtick again and again and it wasn't funny anymore. Then again, the vast majority of shows don't even have ONE shtick that funny so it deserves some credit.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:27 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/QeFN6El.jpg
#74 (Tie) - Ainori Love Wagon: Asian Journey (Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes

Ainori Love Wagon: Asian Journey on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN3IEfn8cFg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:27 (five months ago) link

for the confused (and I am among them):

Ainori is a reality program where seven young men and women travel the world riding a pink bus. The program is reminiscent of a travelogue; as of December 2008, the show has followed the bus across 90 countries as participants explore both famous tourist attractions and more off-the-beaten-path places. The participants are led across each country by a native who serves as tour guide, bus driver, and friend. Upon reaching the border with another country, the bus stops and participants head out to their next destination country to meet their new tour guide and get into their new bus.

The show's twist is that the participants are each young, single people whose goal is to find love with another participant and return to Japan as a couple. When a participant has decided they like someone else, they ask the driver for a ticket back to Japan. They then declare their love to the object of their affection, and ask that the two return to Japan together. After a night's consideration, the person who received the love declaration can either answer with a kiss, after which both participants leave the bus for Japan. Otherwise, the jilted participant is left to return to Japan alone. Besides the love declaration, participants are forbidden from talking openly about their love interests with other participants, but inform the TV audience of their feelings through diaries and confessions to the camera (shot when no other participants are present).

After people leave the bus, new people are added to the program, to keep the total at 7 members. They are seen on the side of the road with a painted cardboard sign (appearing to be hitchhikers) and brought aboard after a self-introduction.

The First Lap Around the World ended in May, 2003, and the Second Lap ended in March, 2007. After that, the bus visits the countries which has never been visited on the show, without the route. The 400th episode was aired on May 5, 2008.

As of March, 2009, 44 couples have found love through the program, and there have been 8 marriages (though one couple has divorced). On March 1, 2005, the first "Ainori Baby" was born, and as of mid-2008 there have been 4 babies born in total.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:30 (five months ago) link

haha
haven't heard of any of these

nxd, Monday, 10 February 2020 15:42 (five months ago) link

here's another marquee favorite

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:01 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/pKakZ2O.jpg
#74 (Tie) - GeoWizard's Mission Across Wales (YouTube) - 20 points, 2 votes

thread of youtubers whomst are not terrible

GeoWizard's Mission Across Wales on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7w986ni7_g

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:01 (five months ago) link

TOO LOW

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:02 (five months ago) link

My #2, could have been 1. The greatest gonzo documentarian of our age

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:02 (five months ago) link

Ainori was my #6 too. How they manage to combine compelling reality romance with bonkers in-depth informative travelogue, seemingly on the fly and with a minuscule budget, is insane

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:05 (five months ago) link

Aww, forgot to vote for it (I skipped the yt list in noms), but yes, I enjoyed that h/t lj

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:05 (five months ago) link

His recently concluded mission across Europe might be even better btw

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:07 (five months ago) link

I keep meaning to watch this Wales thing because people keep saying it's amazing and I can't quite fathom how it could be amazing

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:09 (five months ago) link

The first few eps of this were good but my interest level waned after that.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:13 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/XlNAuBy.jpg
#73 - Jessica Jones (Netflix) - 20 points, 3 votes

Marvel's Jessica Jones

Jessica Jones on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBKS2qH51I

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:14 (five months ago) link

booooooooooo

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:14 (five months ago) link

xp If the opening theme music doesn't get you maybe don't bother. It will though. And then twenty minutes later you'll watch a man with a Go Pro using a broken bridge to cross a torrent, with nothing but sheep fields on all sides, as he narrates his own plight

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:15 (five months ago) link

watched and enjoyed season 1 but never felt compelled to go back for 2 + 3.

Mordy, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:15 (five months ago) link

I would like to think the Marvel TV experiment crashed and burned so badly because the series were all so obviously mediocre and poorly paced, but I'm sure it had more to do with the Disney takeover / launch of Disney+.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:20 (five months ago) link

Ainori is amazing for (amongst many other things) showing all the grittier seams of the production of a romantic reality TV show. Invariably the production crew are dragged into episodes and the whole thing has this slightly lurid manic insomnia offset against genuinely eye-opening documentary about harrowing topics from around the globe. One part of Ainori: Asian Journey sees the seven romantic hopefuls participating in performing operations on children in a hospital without power.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:20 (five months ago) link

Apologies in advance btw - tt and I will probably be responsible for quite a lot of the content today. We shall return to our scheduled suggested programming tomorrow!

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:22 (five months ago) link

Tom’s paranoiac outbursts about phantom farmers in Mission Across Wales really made the whole series for me. The absurdity and difficulty of the challenge makes an already interesting reflection on the Welsh countryside genuinely tense and hilarious.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:23 (five months ago) link

So was JJ season 3 improvement on season 2? I thought 1 was good but too long, 2 was meh and too long, haven't had much incentive to watch 3.

Tuomas, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:24 (five months ago) link

xxp lol, i had almost posted a snarky "one couple has gamed the bottom end of the poll" comment but opted for the better part of valor

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:24 (five months ago) link

And yeah, quite (xps). This Ainori season is the first time I've seen Central Asia (Kyrgyzstan etc) portrayed with any degree of depth...in anything, really. As a bunch of wonderful Japanese losers are being pried to fall for each other

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:26 (five months ago) link

JJ season 3 was all right, definitely an improvement on season 2. Didn't vote for it, but 73 is probably an appropriate placement.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:26 (five months ago) link

Gutted I forgot to vote for Geowizard

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:29 (five months ago) link

(final post about Ainori I swear) the current season is doing similarly wonderful things in East Africa - they are game for any experience, any complicated historical message, anyone's house if they take a shine to them. nothing is sanitised (literally)

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:34 (five months ago) link

glad i decided to vote, since one of mine was for Too Old To Die Young. I posted these on the relevant threads:

I'm five episodes in now and I think it's really strong. the manner in which the five leads are all operating in vv different ways on paths of revenge for those who have been wronged is pretty interesting and the whole series being specifically from the very first scene about the violent effects of broken and/or evil men is pretty timely to say the least.
I saw someone online refer to episode 2 as basically Tarkovsky doing "Narcos" and that seems pretty otm, i mean obv not Tarkovsky-level but miles better than any of the bullshit in Narcos. Points to the show for clearly being super contemptuous of the police dept -- i love the Wolf of Wall Street style of Hart Bochner's homicide squad.

William Baldwin is insane in this. and James Urbaniak's villain in episode 5 was one of the most despicable creations I've seen in a long time. Miles Teller makes for a better blank slate than Ryan Gosling.

― omar little, Thursday, June 27, 2019 12:05 PM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink

I finished Too Old To Die Young, which for all its promotion may as well have not even existed. I’m still marinating a bit on its themes but as a show that is at least partially devoted to the fascism of the police and features one character whose purpose seems to be visiting unholy vengeance upon men who hurt women, i appreciated it. It was extremely slow in a way that might try the patience of some (I do think the pace was a legitimate artistic choice and it didn’t bother me) and it almost literally lost the plot at the end but it had some incredible moments and I’m amazed that Amazon went anywhere near it. It was very on the nose but also just refreshing in that sense, and another legitimate choice.

― omar little, Friday, August 2, 2019 1:30 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

you'd imagine it would work well as a bit of prestige for Amazon, too. I recognize that any show being touted as "groundbreaking" needs to prove it, and yet i think it really did some interesting shit. i'm not really a Refn apologist per se but this was the type of programming i would like to see more of on streaming, which should have more room for such experimentation.

I suspect the content was too much for the corporate suits. I mean the extreme anti-cop stuff and the sexual content, i can see some cowards in the board room insisting that they completely ignore its existence. I'm sure they were perfectly cool w/the violence.

― omar little, Friday, August 2, 2019 3:40 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think episodes 5 & 8 were very much peak Refn. i *almost* want to call 5 a masterpiece. it really goes some places.

― omar little, Tuesday, August 6, 2019 1:29 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

There really aren’t too many good pieces on this. Most of the reviews I’ve read have been snarky negative pieces from sub-A.V. club types who don’t seem willing to engage with it on its own terms; lots of “LOL nothing happens, style over substance” opinions which I guess just tells me even more than before the very specific pace at which streaming-era TV is supposed to move allows no room for negotiation and that when a show arrives with some actual fervent opinions about America and violence they don’t even register (not that this hasn’t always been somewhat the case with film and TV, cf ppl taking Starship Troopers at face value etc etc). Anyway this is a very admirable bit of filmmaking, imperfect as it is.

― omar little, Sunday, October 6, 2019 1:40 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

omar little, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:35 (five months ago) link

it really does feel like the first post-The Return series, even if the production timeline almost certainly doesn't allow for that to be true

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:36 (five months ago) link

Xps Sorry, ulysses! We always compile our ballots separately and usually try to engineer them afterwards so they’re a bit less similar. Still, if it means more people end up watching esoteric British YouTube...

Thanks for the Too Old to Die Young write-ups, omar. It sounds genuinely weird - I will have to check it out.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:40 (five months ago) link

i enjoyed witcher - i don't think it's great television or anything so this is a great spot for it but it's a good guilty pleasure better made than the Xenas and whatever of yesteryore which it gets lots of comparisons to

Mordy, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:43 (five months ago) link

goes w/o saying that the Cliff Martinez score for TOTDY is outstanding.

omar little, Monday, 10 February 2020 16:44 (five months ago) link

tangent: lol, no need to apologize; the whole point was to bring in divergent viewpoints! I was just amused that anyone looking at your ballots would immediately say "well THEY'RE living together..."

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:52 (five months ago) link

there are so many fucking shows

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 16:59 (five months ago) link

Always on the lookout for new animated shows that are good and not too pandering. What's this like?

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:00 (five months ago) link

i watched two episodes and liked it but got hung up on the glaring and unavoidable fact that it is meant for children and the script reflects that. i may need to retry.

they just wrapped "book 2" btw!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9livZeXARWU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:03 (five months ago) link

my sneaking suspicion is that I would've been much better off if i had this to watch instead of Silverhawks as a kid but my window of enjoying this stuff is closed until i am watching it with a kid.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:05 (five months ago) link

I do not particularly like Refn but Amazon tried so hard to bury TOTDY I remain tempted to watch it.

Chris L, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:10 (five months ago) link

Oh no I just remembered I forgot to vote for the final season of Jane the Virgin! Was it on the list? I hope it shows up.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:16 (five months ago) link

NARRATOR: But she had forgotten one thing...

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:20 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/NeYUhjy.jpg
#66 (Tie) - Truthpoint (Adult Swim) - 25 points, 3 votes

OK, which one of you is @BARTSIMSON_REAL?

Truthpoint on Adult Swim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKUQwgNkc1c

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:21 (five months ago) link

go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The Fuck Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse

— wint (@dril) March 10, 2018

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:24 (five months ago) link

Ahaha sorry everyone

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:26 (five months ago) link

This is obviously shit but I absolutely love it. Derek is so damn funny

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:27 (five months ago) link

It's the best sort of fiasco. Well, not the best - Tim and Gregg have that on lockdown - but a worthy pretender. *presses toilet effect button*

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:30 (five months ago) link

here's an equally subtle bookend

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:31 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/E6VFKUm.jpg
#66 (Tie) - The Boys (Amazon) - 25 points, 3 votes

What's good on Amazon Prime Video

The Boys on Amazon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06rueu_fh30

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:31 (five months ago) link

Derek is an absolute master of improvised weirdo irony. Dril is just... This show is all-out chaos.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:32 (five months ago) link

Hated this

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:35 (five months ago) link

if i ever am in the mood for brainless, testosterone-fueled ultra-violence, maybe i'll give this a shot.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:47 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/zyiZCg0.jpg
#66 (Tie) - Rick and Morty (Adult Swim) - 25 points, 3 votes

i'm mr meeseeks look at me rick and morty thread

Rick and Morty on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw6BrzB1drs

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:50 (five months ago) link

if i ever am in the mood for brainless, testosterone-fueled ultra-violence, maybe i'll give this a shot.

― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:47 (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:51 (five months ago) link

this was a weird season, didn't vote for it. but it was still funny even when it ventured a bit too far up its own ass.

only the snakes episode lived up to the towering highs of season 3.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:56 (five months ago) link

a good show whose risible fanbase makes this low slotting feel more deserved than it is

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:57 (five months ago) link

I didn't follow the nominations thread, so I'm curious what the criteria were for this poll. How was "series" defined: anything with multiple episodes? Also, I assume it had to air at least one episode in 2019, but are you voting just for the 2019 episodes or for the series as a whole?

jaymc, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:09 (five months ago) link

Wow, the concept of Rick and Morty feels like a thing from the past for me, did not know it was still on

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:12 (five months ago) link

As mentioned at the top of the nominations thread: "Any series of three or more episodes qualifies as long as at least one of the series' episodes has premiered somewhere in the world in 2019. Acceptable nominations: YouTube/Twitch streamers with a recognizable episode to episode continuity whether fictional or presentational, webseries, streaming series, cable series, game shows, news shows, animation, talk shows. Not acceptable nominations: sports, concerts, one-off documentaries or films, music videos."

Bearing in mind the quality of prior seasons is admittedly kind of unavoidable but these votes should have been cast in the name of the quality and enjoyability of episodes released in 2019; a vote for Riverdale today is not a vote for season one.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:16 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/8MxfYco.jpg
#66 (Tie) - Dear White People (Netflix) - 25 points, 3 votes

Netflix Watch Instantly Recommendation Thread

Dear White People on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPbJdDKKds

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:16 (five months ago) link

ty, ulysses

jaymc, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:18 (five months ago) link

Did not Giancarlo Esposito was on Dear White People! Liked the movie, never saw the show. Anybody wanna rep for it as a fan?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:21 (five months ago) link

I thought this was the best season of DWP so far! Hugely meta and even more cynical than usual.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:22 (five months ago) link

do i need much backstory or can i just jump in at s3?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:26 (five months ago) link

Awwwww -- I am happy that two other people voted for DWP besides me!

why I like this show:
1. nostalgia -- not that I really want to go back to my time as a college student -- but it brings back memories (esp. w/r/t activists and other extra-curricular stuff)
2. a lot of people I know (I am white, they are white) tune out and get defensive about social justice stuff re race because of the didacticism of how it's communicated, and I feel like this show illustrates these concepts in a way that is ... better appreciated by white people

sarahell, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:27 (five months ago) link

a good show whose risible fanbase makes this low slotting feel more deserved than it is

my main issue with it is the character design, at the risk of sounding like a boomer there's just no personality behind it whatsoever, it looks worse than Family Guy

the writing is pretty good though

frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:27 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/48tB1Ar.jpg
#66 (Tie) - Big Mouth (Netflix) - 25 points, 3 votes

Big Mouth on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70CN9XeDnf0

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:28 (five months ago) link

I think the show really expanded and improved upon the themes of the movie. Plot-wise it doesn’t quite all hang together and a lot of it feels compiled with the urgency of renewal fears, but that’s heavily referenced in the script a la Arrested Development. In S3 there’s a nice show within a show. It’s really enjoyable as a whole and extremely of this moment.

xp hmm...I think start from the beginning. It sets up a lot of enigmas that are only just opening up in S3. You’ll fly through it in a few days though, I think

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:28 (five months ago) link

speaking of hideous character design xp

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:29 (five months ago) link

sarahell otm

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:29 (five months ago) link

I tried to watch this and just couldn't. But it's placed low so I can't really hate...hate is reserved for the stuff you like en masse lol

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:37 (five months ago) link

weakest season of big mouth so far, not enough coach steve or shame wizard. some of it was too gross even for this show, and it wasn't as weirdly heart-warming as it's been in years past. still some belly laughs, though.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:41 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/GwlsIB8.jpg
#64 (Tie) - His Dark Materials (HBO) - 25 points, 4 votes

HIS DARK MATERIALS

His Dark Materials on HBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APduGe1eLVI

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:51 (five months ago) link

I'm teaching the first HDM book to a student of mine! We watched half the first episode of this and it looked pretty competently done. The books themselves, while very good, aren't free of fault (they're a bit fussy in tone and there are a few baked-in inconsistencies) so I'm fine with a bit of creative license. Seems fairly reverent though. I've only seen half an episode, as I say - maybe I'll watch some more at some point when the backlog is exhausted

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 18:55 (five months ago) link

Lack of Coach Steve was a massive boost to the last season of Big Mouth fuiud

Not a lot of note seemed to happen compared to previous seasons tho

nashwan, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:00 (five months ago) link

^ highly underrated show in general and this season was as well written and acted as it has ever been
post-Apu Azaria is among my fave actors

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:10 (five months ago) link

HDM was a bit disappointing to me, a massive lover of the books.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:10 (five months ago) link

What is this most similar to? I’ve never heard of it and it looks pretty great.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:15 (five months ago) link

brockmire is one of those shows i get a bunch of promoted ads for and was convinced no one had actually ever watched so i'm very surprised to see this place

na (NA), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:17 (five months ago) link

premise looks good! will check it out

nxd, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:19 (five months ago) link

watched and loved the pilot years ago, but never kept up.

does this stream anywhere?

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:20 (five months ago) link

as noted on the post, Brockmire streams on Hulu.
it's very very good and very funny and very filthy.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:26 (five months ago) link

here's another highly underrated show worth streaming on hulu:

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:26 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/6w1FREf.jpg
#62 (Tie) - Ramy (Hulu) - 28 points, 4 votes

Ramy on Hulu

Ramy on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Ek09B9YaY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:26 (five months ago) link

(NB that you do not need to know a thing about baseball to appreciate Brockmire; i imagine knowing something about baseball will only improve the show)

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:28 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/X8D6hOJ.jpg
#62 (Tie) - Documentary Now! (IFC) - 28 points, 4 votes

Documentary Now!

Documentary Now! on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4wEp3U_LYE

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:40 (five months ago) link

Last one for the day here; we'll add more over the week:

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:41 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/eQe7v4j.jpg
#61 - SB Nation's Chart Party (YouTube) - 28 points, 5 votes

SB Nation’s Chart Party on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_SsIKgwvz4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:41 (five months ago) link

ramy and d now! are shows i've been planning on checking out, but as i mentioned before: there are too many shows.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:41 (five months ago) link

always found Documentary Now! more "impressive" than actually funny

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:41 (five months ago) link

didn't vote for any YT shows, but i love chart party. jon bois is one of the world's funniest people.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:42 (five months ago) link

Jon Bois rules obviously

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:42 (five months ago) link

oh damn I should've voted for this, it's weirdly transfixing

frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:43 (five months ago) link

Had to vote Bois. Bob Emergency and Saddest Punt were truly exceptional content and he's an original

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:44 (five months ago) link

if you guys wanna enjoy jon bois in text form, check out his old 'breaking madden' and 'nba y2k' series on sb nation.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/6/3/5772796/nba-y2k-series-finale-the-death-of-basketball

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:44 (five months ago) link

Also one of a very few people worth following on Twitter. And yeah, a deep dive is strongly recommended. Wait til you reach his Farming Simulator videos...

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:45 (five months ago) link

61 - SB Nation's Chart Party (YouTube) - 28 points, 5 votes
62 (Tie) - Documentary Now! (IFC, stream on Netflix) - 28 points, 4 votes
62 (Tie) - Ramy (Hulu) - 28 points, 4 votes
64 (Tie) - Brockmire (IFC, stream on Hulu) - 25 points, 4 votes
64 (Tie) - His Dark Materials (HBO) - 25 points, 4 votes
66 (Tie) - Big Mouth (Netflix) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Dear White People (Netflix) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Rick and Morty (Adult Swim, stream on Hulu) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - The Boys (Amazon) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Truthpoint (Adult Swim, Stream on YouTube) - 25 points, 3 votes
71 - Infinity Train (Cartoon Network, stream on web) - 25 points, 2 votes
72 - The Witcher (Netflix) - 20 points, 4 votes
73 - Jessica Jones (Netflix) - 20 points, 3 votes
74 (Tie) - GeoWizard's Mission Across Wales (YouTube) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Ainori Love Wagon: Asian Journey (Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Nailed It! (Netflix US) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Too Old To Die Young (Amazon) - 20 points, 2 votes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:47 (five months ago) link

that weird interactive webpage he did about the distant future of football was amazing, I've never seen anything like it

frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:48 (five months ago) link

That's his ultimate masterpiece so far, yes

imago, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:50 (five months ago) link

17776 (if anyone would like to check it out)

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:54 (five months ago) link

A great first day!! Though perhaps I’m a bit biased... A couple of interesting things to try out too.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:55 (five months ago) link

if you only watch one documentary now ep the company cast recording satire is the one to see

Mordy, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:59 (five months ago) link

i saw richard kind do a song from that on a late-night show with no context, and it was glorious.

interested in that one and the bowling one (mainly for tim robinson reasons)

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:02 (five months ago) link

Voted for Documentary Now! but suffers for lack of Bill Hader this season.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:06 (five months ago) link

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but does Documentary Now continue to be a remake of a famous documentary each episode or do they deviate from that formula?

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:06 (five months ago) link

No, they stick with pastiching existing docs.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:08 (five months ago) link

Aah I see. It’s a bizarre premise for a show. Maybe I’ll get around to watching more some day.

tangenttangent, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:20 (five months ago) link

nailed it is the only one so far i voted for, and that was kind of a throwaway vote - it's cute but repetitive, i mostly voted for it because i like watching it with my kids

na (NA), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:34 (five months ago) link

Did I vote for Jessica Jones? Anyway, I really disliked one of the main plot developments, but I'll add that season 2 is better than most people give it credit for. Season 1 is still the best Netflix Marvel thing by a wide margin though.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:49 (five months ago) link

Documentary Now! the only thing I've voted for so far, exclusively on the strength of the Co-Op ep.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:32 (five months ago) link

i watched two episodes and liked it but got hung up on the glaring and unavoidable fact that it is meant for children and the script reflects that. i may need to retry.

they just wrapped "book 2" btw!

I get this, but IMO Infinity Train is kinda like Steven Universe in that it obviously wants to get some important messages about self-worth and acceptance through to the kids, but the whole scifi/fantasy setting provides a lot to enjoy for adults too, who may find the messages a bit too obvious. (Not saying that it's as good as Steven Universe - what is? - but it's still very enjoyable.) The concept of having each episode take place in a separate train car/micro-world provides with a lot of space to do cool and surreal imagery, and they also apparently intend each season to have different protagonists with different issues means that they shouldn't be stuck repeating the same themes. They already did that in the second season, and it went into some pretty dark and deep waters for a Cartoon Network show (don't want to say anything more not to spoil it). So based on the two seasons so far (they're very short, only ten 10-minute episodes per season), I feel IT has a lot of potential for both kids and adults.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 09:52 (five months ago) link

Never heard of Documentary Now! and it's not showing on UK Netflix so guess it's US only?

Thought I was the other voter for Too Old Too Die Young but just checked my ballot and it's not on there. Great show though (if not for everyone) and glad that stuff like that can get made these days even if Amazon did their best to bury it before it was even released.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 10:47 (five months ago) link

I got excited when this poll mentioned Documentary Now is on Netflix but it's not in my country. Still have yet to see an episode

Vinnie, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 11:47 (five months ago) link

I've really only enjoyed the Doc Now episodes with Hader and/or Mulaney involved, but those are great. Hader as the James Carville type in the War Room parody is one of my favorite comedic turns of the last few years.

Criterion is including the DN parody of the Mayseles Brothers' Salesman as an extra on their reissue of that movie.

Chris L, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 13:20 (five months ago) link

Haven’t seen Documentary Now! but I did just want to mention (since there doesn’t seem to be any discussion about it) that I think HDM deserves its low position.

very avant-garde (Variablearea), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 14:35 (five months ago) link

Kind of reneging on my own vote here, full disclosure.

very avant-garde (Variablearea), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 14:38 (five months ago) link

I submitted one of those four-vote ballots...There sure are a lot of TV shows I've never heard of.

clemenza, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 14:39 (five months ago) link

I'm a four-voter too, and I probably couldn't have found twenty things I saw and liked enough to vote for even if I'd wanted to. This poll is doing a great job of pitching me on stuff I didn't know about that I might at some point watch.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 14:46 (five months ago) link

at a meeting now but will be updating with several more in the later afternoon.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 17:41 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/CYEAWZh.jpg
#53 (Tie) - This Time with Alan Partridge (BBC) - 30 points, 3 votes

Alan Partridge comes to BBC America

This Time with Alan Partridge on the BBC 1 Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77IZttD_pU8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:03 (five months ago) link

that...was a goal

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:08 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/a4ThCc6.jpg
#53 (Tie) - The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes

The Dark Crystal

The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_owZfYVR8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:23 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/xHntUCN.jpg
#53 (Tie) - Repair Shop (BBC, Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes

The Repair Shop on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0tpFmcChPs

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:36 (five months ago) link

as someone born in the 90s, i am blissfully ignorant of dark crystal.

and these stills aren't convincing me to take the plunge lol

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:40 (five months ago) link

no offense to moka, whose images are immaculate

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:40 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/gagafsE.jpg
#53 (Tie) - Queer Eye (Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes

Queer Eye For The Straight Guy WTF

Queer Eye on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SZbVV6eVFk

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:44 (five months ago) link

Love the Repair Shop, just beautiful watching the connection between objects and memory come alive again.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 21:46 (five months ago) link

Dark Crystal too low!

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 22:18 (five months ago) link

Definitely, was at the top of my ballot

groovypanda, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 22:26 (five months ago) link

Partridge too low

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 23:04 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/fFgOxVF.jpg
#53 (Tie) - Mortimer & Whitehouse: Gone Fishing (BBC) - 30 points, 3 votes

Mortimer & Whitehouse: Gone Fishin on BBC 2 Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm6HVs3myvI

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 23:12 (five months ago) link

The way the colour of each of Moka's numbers is picked off a detail of the image is wonderful, and in the case of #53 made me flat out lol.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 23:19 (five months ago) link

in the case of #53?

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 23:43 (five months ago) link

Yes, as in the Alan Partridge one? I found the colour ref of that one downright funny somehow.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 00:39 (five months ago) link

agree, but that needed clarification tbf

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 01:25 (five months ago) link

Can anyone explain Mortimer and Whitehouse Go Fishing to me? I tried an episode and it was opaque.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 04:12 (five months ago) link

as someone born in the 90s, i am blissfully ignorant of dark crystal.

and these stills aren't convincing me to take the plunge lol

as someone born in the 70s, i saw Dark Crystal as a kid, thought it was fine at the time, but have no desire to revisit it

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 08:47 (five months ago) link

I don't watch enough telly to vote in any meaningful way, but would have voted for Gone Fishing. It's a bit like the Trip in that it's beautiful to look at and it happens to have two old men enacting their dotage in it. The difference here is that it's done with a real light touch.

I'm not a big fan of the 'it gets better in season 9!1!!!' argument but this definitely benefits from accumulation (after 3 episodes, I basically dozed through the rest with my eyes open).

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 12:11 (five months ago) link

it reminded me of the thing Alan Plater said about the best bits of writing on Z Cars being when they were just sitting in the car and chatting about nothing, it was a welcome change from the constant pressure for things to happen on tv

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 12:23 (five months ago) link

xxp: Still have the warm feels of seeing Dark Crystal at age 10 (and Time Bandits at 9). I recall my playground mates would hum the deepest chords we could manage, mimicking the urRu/Mystics.

They seem absent here.

I'd hope DC:AOR has less CGI, greenscreen, and impossible/weightless camera movements than the highlight reel of the trailer. Just charmless for me.

forgotten even to the sea (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 12:31 (five months ago) link

You should definitely give it a go. There's obviously some CGI but it's done with real puppets and sets and had a charm of its own because of that. It's also got a very good story and is absolutely gorgeous to look at.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 12:58 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/UneC7qZ.jpg
#53 (Tie) - Euphoria (HBO) - 30 points, 3 votes

Euphoria on HBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziMUD0_TTg0

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 13:46 (five months ago) link

hey it's the man in black

nxd, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 14:11 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/WY1WlGj.jpg
#53 (Tie) - 63 Up (ITV, UK) - 30 points, 3 votes

7-Up (The Michael Apted documentary series)

63 Up Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugw7hUoJ0C0

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 14:22 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/VOylam0.jpg
#48 (Tie) - Veronica Mars (Hulu) - 30 points, 4 votes

Veronica Mars

Veronica Mars on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt0QuaQ0huk

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 14:45 (five months ago) link

The new season of Veronica Mars seemed about on par with season 2 and 3, though I completely forgot it existed from after I finished watching it until right now.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 14:55 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/pNoBo22.jpg

#48 (Tie) - Tuca and Bertie (Netflix) - 30 points, 4 votes

Netflix Watch Instantly Recommendation Thread

Tuca and Bertie on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZybYIJtbcu0

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 14:57 (five months ago) link

^ harshly done by

that said I still haven't seen the final one or two

nashwan, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:00 (five months ago) link

Never before has a single episode torpedoed my liking of a show as much as the Sex Bugs episode of this did. Struggled on for one more but I was done. Shame as this could have been pretty good

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:02 (five months ago) link

opening minute was enough to torpedo my interest

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:04 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Dkr6v5b.jpg
#48 (Tie) - The Dragon Prince (Netflix) - 30 points, 4 votes

The Dragon Prince on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc2gmVTb6-k

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:09 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/O1yCI0A.jpg
#48 (Tie) - Pose (FX) - 30 points, 4 votes

Pose on FX Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJFCY2mITHY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:23 (five months ago) link

Not familiar with a lot of these Netflix shows but ... lotta parents of young kids voting here?

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:23 (five months ago) link

Sometimes kid content is great on its own terms. I'm going to be voting (quite high) for the latest Shaun The Sheep in our movie poll for example

Would be nice if a few fans of these shows turned up and talked about why they like them though. Do your job ILX!

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:26 (five months ago) link

(I don't have kids. I am a kid.)

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:27 (five months ago) link

Paw Patrol's gotten pretty repetitive in its later seasons which is why I didn't vote for it

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:31 (five months ago) link

dang this is going fast

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:31 (five months ago) link

totally forgot about the new veronica mars episodes, gotta check those out.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:31 (five months ago) link

i watched and guiltily enjoyed all seasons of bosch but couldn't bring myself to vote for it since i had no memory of what the most recent season was

na (NA), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:33 (five months ago) link

Paw Patrol With Five Little Buses Pregnant Elsa Scares Pikachu

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:33 (five months ago) link

would you say it's in... TURBO MODE

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:34 (five months ago) link

To Be Filed Under: Oh How the Mighty Have Fallen

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:34 (five months ago) link

I'm still waiting for a single one of my poll selections to show up! I gather at this point that I must like shows that are either very popular or universally hated.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:35 (five months ago) link

Paw Patrol With Five Little Buses Pregnant Elsa Scares Pikachu

these vids are thankfully mostly gone from YouTube but still when you search "Paw Patrol" the first few results are not of the show but rather of grown-ass men playing with Paw Patrol stuffed animals. they have like 50 million views each.

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:37 (five months ago) link

Sometimes kid content is great on its own terms.

I love Horrible Histories, better than GOT tbh

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:38 (five months ago) link

There's my #1. Jamie Demetriou has saved British comedy

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:50 (five months ago) link

It's covered in...brack

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:50 (five months ago) link

So far 2 things I've watched and 0 that I voted for.

Chris L, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:51 (five months ago) link

Obviously you don't have to be a Londoner of Greek Cypriot extraction to love this, but everything - the gleeful nonsense dialogue, the pinpoint characterisation, the mounting physical absurdity - is both reminiscent of the absolute heights of UK sitcoms past and something rather syncretic and new. It feels absolutely attuned to the cultural backgrounds of all of its characters while allowing them to stretch out and be wonderfully idiosyncratic. Above all, it's hilarious. S1 was great but S2 is a masterpiece and will take less than 3 hours of your time to devour. Do so if you've ever giggled at Alan Partridge or Fawlty Towers.

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 15:56 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/rJXHdiq.jpg
#46 (Tie) - Kingdom (Netflix) - 33 points, 4 votes

Netflix Watch Instantly Recommendation Thread

Kingdom on Netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l-yByZpaaM

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:01 (five months ago) link

Two of my four votes, 63 Up and Kingdom, have already placed. Gonna privilege my own taste here and say they're this low because they weren't widely seen. 63 Up, in particular, is the best thing about death and its approach I've seen this year and maybe ever. (Kingdom, of course, is also about death but in a very different way....)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:05 (five months ago) link

Kingdom: I really like zombie stuff and have watched a lot of such shows, many of which take the form "it's zombies + [genre x]" but "zombies + court intrigue" is the best such combo I've seen.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:06 (five months ago) link

Checking from my phone but hope that’s not a remake of LvT’s Kingdom.

Stath Lets Flats is so wonderfully observed that you are almost instantly invested in the lives of each character. It also has the best uses for absurdity in contemporary UK TV. Everyone should watch it now.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:06 (five months ago) link

It also has the best uses for absurdity in contemporary UK TV.

tbf we are currently watching something else that will place later, and which runs it pretty close in this regard (and would have done for my #1 slot too if I'd seen it a week earlier)

but yeah

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:09 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/aatf5mI.jpg
#45 - The Good Place (NBC) - 35 points, 5 votes

The Good Place on NBC

The Good Place on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnq6IRgt4yE

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:13 (five months ago) link

too low!

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:14 (five months ago) link

Man, if we'd done this poll last year

I mean, final season was still good I guess, but...the wheels were idling a bit

Still haven't watched the final episode for some reason

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:15 (five months ago) link

oh, i guess most of this would've been the beginning of s4

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:15 (five months ago) link

even a weak season of TGP should still be higher

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:15 (five months ago) link

As I say, last year it would have been unthinkable to not put it in my top ten but this time I couldn't even be bothered to vote for it. I wonder what changed. Maybe I did, man

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:18 (five months ago) link

GOT too high!

Dragon Prince keeps getting better, it's not quite as good as Avatar or Korra at their best but this last season did some challenging things that the other two shows haven't.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:24 (five months ago) link

yeah, fess up GOT voters

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:30 (five months ago) link

Kingdom: I really like zombie stuff and have watched a lot of such shows, many of which take the form "it's zombies + [genre x]" but "zombies + court intrigue" is the best such combo I've seen.

zombies + court intrigue + hats is an even better combo

groovypanda, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:46 (five months ago) link

I kind of miss the MMA series by the same name

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:47 (five months ago) link

Someone should make a show called Kingdom that mashes up all preceding shows called Kingdom

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:48 (five months ago) link

I am down so long as every episode ends with someone giving birth to Udo Kier.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:51 (five months ago) link

couldn't possibly bring myself to vote for Game of Thrones, which imo was not only one of the most disappointing shows i've ever seen but in the final seasons one of the most inept, despite the considerable production values and impressive visuals. the first several seasons took place in a deeply lived-in world, it was cleverly and almost remorselessly plotted, it was very sharp and frightening, and it had a key characteristic it lost in later seasons: the characters were generally smart and behaved in logical ways, even if their choices were ultimately wrong or tragic. that was all thrown over once they went off book, in favor of the lead-up to what was basically an amateurishly done version of Avengers: Endgame, minus the earned pathos and tragedy and crafty structure and good jokes. i mean it was a show that was a huge success and nonetheless poor enough that it cost Benioff and Weiss future jobs because they clearly had no idea how to finish the story. i wasn't bored exactly but it was fantasy on the level of In the Name of the King, with better FX and better actors and grandfathered-in goodwill from previous (distantly previous) seasons.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:59 (five months ago) link

I voted for Game of Thrones. The last season was so flawed and aggravating (in a bad way). However, there were some good parts. And honestly, the social media moment that was everyone watching that epic battle episode that was too dark and comparing their tv setups and trying to "fix it so they can see better" and/or complaining -- was actually this sociologically amazing thing! .. .

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:11 (five months ago) link

Here's another show that fell off without it being easy to see why. Latest season opener wasn't so bad I guess. Just don't really look forward to it as much. Sad how great shows often burn out

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:12 (five months ago) link

I maybe should have voted for The Good Place. I certainly made a point of watching it and as a whole it's one of the best series in years, certainly the best traditional network show. But I was rating purely on 2019 and the first half of S4 was the weakest material they've done. If I'd voted in 10 shows I would have included it, and 2019 Bojack too, but both were sufficiently off their peak to kick them out of the top four (and both at least partially returned to form in their 2020 concluding episodes!)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:12 (five months ago) link

As I won the first two (as-yet-unwatched) seasons of GoT, how many more would I be advised to snap up before pretending that the show was tragically and prematurely cancelled?

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:15 (five months ago) link

won = own

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:16 (five months ago) link

you're safe through the end of season 4, it's exceptionally good up to that point.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:20 (five months ago) link

seasons 5-8 have their moments and standalone episodes which are thrilling but what's interesting i guess is that the best episodes from the latter half of the show's run are the ones which are largely single-location, without a lot of heavy plotting. the battle episodes, basically.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:22 (five months ago) link

last season of GOT was no worse than previous few seasons, in some ways it was actually better. I think the real problem was one of expectations, also there was a very very vocal contingent who were against their favourite character's heel turn, their views should be discounted entirely. I would suggest you swatch s1-s4 but you'll most likely want to watch the rest after that, and why not? it's an ok show.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:24 (five months ago) link

The new Veronica Mars -- well, I'm super-glad it existed because these are characters I'm always motivated to spend time with. Halfway through the season I would have rated it highly. Felt it didn't wrap up the plot threads with the satisfying, startling neatness I have come to expect from VM. Would have been in my top 10 for sure.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:25 (five months ago) link

Like for years I resisted the entreaties to watch GoT because, post-L O S T, my tendency wrt these epic televisual endeavors is to wait until the bow has been tied to see if the gift box contains a steaming turd. Which, based on most of the post-finale responses I've heard, seems to have been a wise choice in this case. I'd probably have much fonder feelings about L O S T if I'd waited to have someone tell me 'just pretend that the final season doesn't exist and you'll have fun'.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:29 (five months ago) link

i watched and guiltily enjoyed all seasons of bosch but couldn't bring myself to vote for it since i had no memory of what the most recent season was

most recent season did plenty of extra-textual fanservice!! idk, maybe I'm that much of a nerd, but I suspect Ms. Veg is also with me on this. Opie from Sons of Anarchy as a biker PI, J. Edgar doing surveillance on scumbags and then meeting them in a club -- which made me yell, "Dudes, you know that is Marlo, right? You don't fuck with that guy. You will end up skeletal in a boarded-up vacant!"

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:30 (five months ago) link

the heel turn was perfectly fine, it just betrayed everything that the character had shown and happened so abruptly that it was clear they had no real idea of how to arrive at that heel turn in a manner that made sense. also the problem w/that twist and many other big moments was that it was all vv predictable, i've never seen a show which was so accurately forecasted by so many people. vs that big thing from the end of season 3, which was both completely logical and yet unpredictable if you hadn't read the novels.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:31 (five months ago) link

every time Jay Edgar plays golf in Bosch feels like Wire fanservice to me tho

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:32 (five months ago) link

*the show's final season was accurately forecast, rather. the first few were not.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:33 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Rdd6A4H.jpg
#43 - It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FXX) - 40 points, 4 votes

It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgr01hYOrF8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:33 (five months ago) link

Honestly, I had a more accepting attitude towards the show itself -- like, I did not have super high expectations. I got angrier at popular astrology memes about GoT characters that showed poor comprehension of astrology and the GoT characters.

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:35 (five months ago) link

Arya is so so so so not an ARIES

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:35 (five months ago) link

today seems to be mostly shows i watch but did not vote for

na (NA), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:39 (five months ago) link

Let's take it to 36 today.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:45 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/iWW5A35.jpg
#40 (Tie) - The Expanse (Amazon) - 40 points, 5 votes

Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

The Expanse on Amazon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFdzpVt5rbk

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:45 (five months ago) link

i don't even necessarily believe GOT was markedly worse than or even actually worse than a number of other shows, and it remained watchable, but i think its decline was precipitous enough that it retroactively downgrades the entire thing. i do think arguably S8 was "better" in some sense than earlier seasons, i'm thinking the one where half of it was taken up with uncomfortable silences between Tyrion and Grey Worm and Missandei, broken up by awkward jokes.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:48 (five months ago) link

The Expanse, fantastic.

better than Battlestar Galactica, and exactly the type of sci-fi show i'd been wanting to see for eons.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:49 (five months ago) link

Liked and voted for this IASIP series and consider it better than the last one

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:49 (five months ago) link

maybe it's because there weren't that many people voting in this poll, but today is like -- i voted for almost all of these shows.

Anyway, at some point I might post paragraphs about "what each of these tv shows means to me and why i like them" -- but in general, the stuff I voted for, besides being pleasurable as a show, also gave me insight into various personal, social, and philosophical issues I dealt with last year. That includes The Expanse, Jessica Jones, and Silicon Valley

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 17:51 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/gXzcu2x.jpg
#40 (Tie) - Gentleman Jack (BBC, HBO) - 40 points, 5 votes

Gentleman Jack on HBO

Gentleman Jack on HBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uBYRcP44M4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:30 (five months ago) link

Suranne Jones is one of the best

That's my 3rd (I think) to show up. Stath Lets Flats is fantastic and I completely ignored it because British comedy until imago's incessant positivity got me interested so props to him

or something, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:41 (five months ago) link

Props and thanks

or something, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:42 (five months ago) link

Is Gentleman Jack any good then? Kind of dismissed it as a bog standard BBC period drama

groovypanda, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:47 (five months ago) link

Gentlemen Jack is killer; one of my fave discoveries of last year.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:49 (five months ago) link

i haven't seen Gentleman Jack, but it's selling point (at least for me) is of the LGBTQ / feminist sort. If you don't care about that, and you don't like BBC period dramas, then it's probably not worth it to you.

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:51 (five months ago) link

I voted for the latest season of The Expanse but most of it was too grim for my liking (though this season followed the book pretty closely, I seem to remember finding the travails a lot more gripping when I was reading about them). When there are a few glimmers of hope though I enjoyed it.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:54 (five months ago) link

the next book is even more grim iirc

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:55 (five months ago) link

still need to catch up on the latest season of always sunny. left off at the thundergun episode.

the show has been getting flowers lately, but i still think it's underrated. it's on an unprecedented run of consistent hilarity for a live-action sitcom. they've been doing this shit for fifteen years. i was singing 'day man' when i was in high school.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:56 (five months ago) link

just a few comments on things I’ve seen so far...

I enjoyed the Witcher, it’s not brilliant or anything but it didn’t take itself too seriously, felt like the fantasy shit I liked as a kid, in a good way. Would have voted for it.

His Dark Materials was okay, I’ll probably watch season 2 but I’m not totally sold. It felt kinda heartless. I can’t decide if it’s too hard to adapt or if the books are just worse than I remember them. Might’ve voted for it.

I just finished the tail end of season 4 of the good place. The ending was satisfying I think, but not as great as season 1 of course. Tough for a show with the premise it had to do well after the first season wraps so the fact it was still a great show to watch til the end was really impressive I thought. Would've voted for it.

I think everyone covered GOT well, I wouldn't have voted for this season.

Lots a stuff I'm interested to watch now though, great work poll runners.

Will (kruezer2), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:59 (five months ago) link

I have always assumed that It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia was some kind of How I Met Your Mother-type deal, possibly because they both have long names and I'm not very smart.

I've just read the start of the wiki page, and unless it's a hilarious defacement, Holy Shit.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 19:03 (five months ago) link

the next book is even more grim iirc

You're right, but the antagonists are at least more charismatic.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 19:07 (five months ago) link

I have always assumed that It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia was some kind of How I Met Your Mother-type deal

Absolutely perfect footing on which to start watching the show imo - happy trails!

nashwan, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 19:10 (five months ago) link

We've been waiting like 15 years to find out why it's always sunny!

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 19:18 (five months ago) link

the gang tries desperately to meet your mother

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 19:26 (five months ago) link

The focus group episode of the latest season (of ASIP) deserves its place in the pantheon of all-time great episodes. So jealous of anyone just discovering it

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:08 (five months ago) link

the Silicon Valley focus group scenes were always great -- one of the good things about this last season was it gave Monica more to do as a character. Relatedly, getting to see the main characters interact with others outside of each other, where, after 5 seasons, things were starting to be a bit rote. The Monica/Gilfoyle dynamic was really heartwarming and funny. ... Granted, I still had immense nostalgia for "Hot Dog/Not Hot Dog" and the amazing finale from season 1.

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:22 (five months ago) link

Also ... Menlo Bark. .... sometimes when I feel sad and am taking life too seriously, I think about "Menlo Bark" and "Who Let the Dogs Out?"

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:24 (five months ago) link

Need to watch the rest of the latest season of Silicon Valley. I’m glad Monica is finally made into more of something. For me the pinnacle was ‘billions of breadings’. Peter Gregory still missed.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:29 (five months ago) link

top Silicon Valley bits for me (I watched all the seasons recently) - unranked:

1. Hot Dog/Not Hot Dog
1a. Hot Dog ---> Dick Pics
2. Hand Job calcs
3. Gilfoyle vs. the smart fridge
4. Menlo Bark
5. Black ops mission at Hoolicon
6. Monica vs. the bros
7. Gilfoyle and delegating
8. SWOT analysis
9. Jared
10. Russfest

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:42 (five months ago) link

Is Gentleman Jack any good then? Kind of dismissed it as a bog standard BBC period drama

it's good: the most auteurist work by Sally Wainwright (creator of At Home With The Braithwaites, Last Tango In Halifax, Happy Valley) and her only period piece. She wrote every episode, and directed half. It's applying slightly-higher-than-bog-standard BBC period drama values to a series whose themes are 100% about womens rights and lesbian "rights" in 19th century capitalism, with whatever resonance to the subsequent 190 years that the viewer chooses to apply. There are strongly continuing plot and romance elements, but it's also written like proper telly in that normal viewers can miss a week and pick up the stakes next time.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:14 (five months ago) link

I had no idea that’s what Gentleman Jack would be. Thanks for that explanation, will definitely watch. AHWtB and LTiH both incredible.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:16 (five months ago) link

I think someone mentioned it on one of the queer/trans threads when it came out?

sarahell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:25 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/T45hswJ.jpg
#40 (Tie) - Desus and Mero (Showtime) - 40 points, 5 votes

bodega boys desus nice & the kid mero aka's poll

Desus and Mero on Showtime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNklJTlwws

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:36 (five months ago) link

love these dudes so much...but i don't have showtime.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:37 (five months ago) link

it's worth the investment! they also post about half an hour of content every week

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:43 (five months ago) link

on youtube that is.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:43 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/CBZhsi7.jpg
#39 - The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (Amazon) - 40 points, 6 votes

The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel

The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Amazon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76bH1b9XreE

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:56 (five months ago) link

bad + sorta antisemitic show sorry to fans :(

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:58 (five months ago) link

it's worth the investment! they also post about half an hour of content every week

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:43 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

on youtube that is.

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:43 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah that's where i experience most of their stuff (plus twitter, obviously)

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:03 (five months ago) link

first season of maisel was good, feeling pretty ok with my decision to not keep up, especially since i don't have a vote in any major award shows.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:04 (five months ago) link

Was going to jump in with 'TOO LOW', but saw Mordy's post. The antisemitism has clearly gone straight over my head, but I know the show's creators aren't exactly great with subtlety or nuance, so I'm not super surprised, but can you direct me to what is so off about it so I can understand better?

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:06 (five months ago) link

would like to make it abundantly clear that tt is on her own with this one, even more so than bloody Gilmore Girls, which I gather this is some sort of edgier reboot of

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:08 (five months ago) link

That's my 3rd (I think) to show up. Stath Lets Flats is fantastic and I completely ignored it because British comedy until imago's incessant positivity got me interested so props to him

― or something, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:41 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

👌

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:18 (five months ago) link

I barely watch Desus & Mero anymore but that’s more than any other talk show.

Chris L, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:20 (five months ago) link

PEN15 is great! Thank you ulysses for this one. The pop culture references concerning being a nerdy teen in the early 00s are so painfully on point that I can't not love it. The AIM episode killed me.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:25 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/D2FbKtn.jpg
#37 (Tie) - Corporate (Comedy Central) - 41 points, 6 votes

Corporate on Comedy Central

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gmyg43jE_4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:25 (five months ago) link

and one more just to get me out for the night

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:27 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/EQOXB9Y.jpg
#36 - Broad City (Comedy Central) - 45 points, 5 votes

ah fuck it it's the BROAD CITY thread

Broad City on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNFRG_qGJ3o

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:27 (five months ago) link

(not 100% sure Mordy doesn't mean Desus & Mero!)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:28 (five months ago) link

xp to Corporate: And another! This season was so strong. The male makeup episode was one of my favourite episodes of anything last year. The soullessness and labyrinthine contours of the office building are some stunning set design.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:31 (five months ago) link

Didn't see much Corporate but enjoyed what I did

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:32 (five months ago) link

Corporate maybe my 2nd or 3rd vote to show up. Frequently a riot.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:33 (five months ago) link

Was going to jump in with 'TOO LOW', but saw Mordy's post. The antisemitism has clearly gone straight over my head, but I know the show's creators aren't exactly great with subtlety or nuance, so I'm not super surprised, but can you direct me to what is so off about it so I can understand better?

sorry didn't mean to drop that bomb and then just walk away. it's that its depiction of jewishness - predominately by a non-jewish cast - feels very caricatured and false/superficial to me I could really hardly watch it for this reason. this emily nussbaum article touches on some of the other problems i have with the show. antisemitic is maybe overstating it but there's just an uncomfortable falseness i feel when i watch it and particularly bc of how it portrays jewishness (and judaism) not in an obviously pejorative way but in a kind of superficial + shallow one.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:39 (five months ago) link

it portrays everything in a caricatured and superficial tone tbh. it's a total fantasia of show business, of wealth, of creativity, of performed comedy, of social progress, and of cultural jewishness.

first season of maisel was good, feeling pretty ok with my decision to not keep up

I did the same, but caught lots of the later two when my housemate was watching them recently and I think it gets better. there were a couple of eps in S3 that I went back and finished myself bcz I got caught up in the bits I'd seen.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:47 (five months ago) link

Corporate was good, at least the half season I saw of it. Didn’t vote for it cause I still have five episodes to go.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:59 (five months ago) link

Need to use more exclamation points in my emails!

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:59 (five months ago) link

Considered voting GoT in one those "give the Oscar to someone to acknowledge their previous snubs" type situations, but couldn't do it. man, the last season was disappointing

Leeee summed up my thoughts on the Dragon Prince rather well so I'll just say more people should check it out

Vinnie, Thursday, 13 February 2020 00:57 (five months ago) link

I haven’t heard of Stath Lets Flats but I liked Jamie Demetriou in Fleabag

Dan S, Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:12 (five months ago) link

didn’t think the main character’s turn in Season 8 of GoT was surprising at all, they were autocratic and uncompromising from the beginning, and the events in previous seasons seemed to be predicting it

Dan S, Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:13 (five months ago) link

PEN15 and Broad City were my #1 and #3, respectively. The latter arguably provided the former a template, tho filtered thru an uneasy, uncanny recent-part period filter that is never scared to verge on creepy. Broad City, in an age of shows peaking early and burning out quick (Maisel), somehow managed to roll up shop at just the right time and the finale was gut-wrenching.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:28 (five months ago) link

Shows I voted for: Dark Crystal. Puppets >>> CGI, amazing turn from Simon Pegg as the Chancellor. Tuca and Bertie. I wasn't totally convinced by the middle, but the last episode or two really made
it worthwhile. Shame it was cancelled.
Shows I have seen and didn't vote for: Mortimer & Whitehouse - a bit too gentle for me. The Good Place - made it through half of the first season, meh.
Shows I might have voted for except somehow I missed that they were nominated: Pose.
Shows I have seen earlier seasons of and wish I could have voted for but they moved to a service I don't subscribe to: The Expanse. Have just found a site where I can stream Picard so might see if they have this too.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 13 February 2020 08:48 (five months ago) link

didn’t think the main character’s turn in Season 8 of GoT was surprising at all, they were autocratic and uncompromising from the beginning, and the events in previous seasons seemed to be predicting it

The turn itself wasn't surprising, but the actual way it happened came completely out of nowhere, and the rather horrific things the character did weren't really justified by anything they'd done earlier.

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:47 (five months ago) link

Executing a friend for being traitor: made sense with how the character had been portrayed before. Mass murder of innocent people, seemingly on a whim: didn't make much sense.

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:49 (five months ago) link

I think they had done plenty in previous seasons, it was clearly a conflict within the character which finally broke in the wrong direction (the mass murder seemed like "fuck it, I'm going to accept this is who I am now"), in writing terms you could see the path to it laid out - it wasn't written particularly well, that's all.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:53 (five months ago) link

(the mass murder seemed like "fuck it, I'm going to accept this is who I am now"

But that's exactly why it didn't make sense... In earlier seasons the show had done a lot to make even its villains psychologically complex, and to make their actions coherent with their motivations and goals. A character being, like, "well, I guess I'm a villain now, might as well kill all these innocent people who've already surrendered" is the opposite of that.

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 10:05 (five months ago) link

But people really do behave in that way, the "motivation and goals" method of character development really fails to capture so much about the way humans really work, especially as applied in this show. If it had been written a little better it would have been exactly right.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 February 2020 10:55 (five months ago) link

there's just an uncomfortable falseness i feel when i watch it and particularly bc of how it portrays jewishness (and judaism) not in an obviously pejorative way but in a kind of superficial + shallow one.

That absolutely follows, and that article is generally on point about the show's easy saccharine choices. I enjoy it (like Gilmore Girls) whilst acknowledging the many flaws, including that the creator has an almost surreal need to shower the central character (Maisel, Rory) with levels of praise beyond the pale. But the costumes are so good.

Would be interested to know what shows you think do portray Jewishness well.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 11:55 (five months ago) link

For all its myriad flaws, transparent did a pretty good job of representing my personal experience with Reform Judaism (though the Pfeffermans’ was a distinctly west coast version, I’m east coast)

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:39 (five months ago) link

man i have no idea what 90% of these shows are

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 February 2020 14:33 (five months ago) link

Truthpoint is one of the shows I watch but didn't vote for, but it's cool it made it.

Chris L, Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:02 (five months ago) link

i love Corporate. it's occasionally a little try-hard in its jadedness but overall the combo of cynicism and absurdism meshes almost perfectly with my personal tastes. "make-up for men" was definitely a stand-out episode, and the one where jake is trying to stay up to go to his friend's rock show is a masterpiece of goofiness.

na (NA), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:16 (five months ago) link

I'm sad there's only one season left, feels like they just hit their stride.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:18 (five months ago) link

oh and Goofy Lance Reddick is amazing to watch

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:19 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/B5UE0no.jpg
#32 (Tie) - High Maintenance (HBO) - 45 points, 6 votes

High Maintenance - Very good web-series. Discuss.

High Maintenance on HBO Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTL9hSrMhTQ

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:25 (five months ago) link

I'm sad there's only one season left, feels like they just hit their stride.

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:18 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

really? dang.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:36 (five months ago) link

Oh I saw the make-up for men episode I think! Great stuff

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:47 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/k8PtCcU.jpg
#32 (Tie) - Derry Girls (Channel 4, Netflix) - 45 points, 6 votes

Catch yourself on - it’s the Derry Girls thread!

Derry Girls on Netflix Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8fH2Lqc8nY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:56 (five months ago) link

Too low! But I guess it's U.K. only?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:29 (five months ago) link

I've seen it in my Netflix. (I'm a Yank.)

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:32 (five months ago) link

yeah it's available in the US, and it's fun

sleeve, Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:37 (five months ago) link

I tried with this but it struck me as portentous and leaden in the worst way

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:45 (five months ago) link

I've never heard of this! I'm surprised given how comparatively high up it is and how insistent Netflix are with their recommendations.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:49 (five months ago) link

derry girls is very funny and i voted for it despite each season being approximately 12 minutes long

na (NA), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:56 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/OPipxQf.jpg
#31 - Steven Universe (Cartoon Network) - 50 points, 5 votes

Steven Universe

Steven Universe on Hulu Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LMGVx31zso

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:08 (five months ago) link

steven universe would've been my #1 pick if we had ranked voting. another show i love because i watch it with my kids but it's so deep that it works on different levels for everyone in our family. it has cracked through my hard shell and given me feelings.

na (NA), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:13 (five months ago) link

here's some feelings for gen-xers

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:21 (five months ago) link

gonna miss this show.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:23 (five months ago) link

of all the "damn, it's hard to be a cynical white couple in 201X" shows, i think catastrophe did it best

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:24 (five months ago) link

a depressing percentage of shows on my ballot will not be back next year

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:25 (five months ago) link

Lol at Contrapoints tying with SU

Huuuuge Natalie stan here y'all #truthTeller #nevercancelled

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:25 (five months ago) link

love Catastrophe but the last season was weak, amazing it got made at all in context of course

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:26 (five months ago) link

it wasn't at the level of previous seasons, but the final episode was brilliant.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:27 (five months ago) link

been at a thing all week and havent been able to post yet. moka's images are great again. 77 is too many but there's already some good stuff that has shown up pretty high that i thought would be much higher so maybe 77 is good. Just seems like too much tv, the inclusion of youtube shows helps tho.

catching up a bit and eephus otm about nailed it. really fun for a handful of eps but im done with it now.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:39 (five months ago) link

y'know, i didn't even think about jeopardy, but it really was great this year.

the GOAT tourney didn't drop 'til 2020, but if i remember it in 10 months, i'll vote for it then.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:49 (five months ago) link

jeopardy never gets old

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:54 (five months ago) link

aw trebek

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 17:54 (five months ago) link

i think my cousin was his radiologist a year or so back

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:19 (five months ago) link

<3 the eternal Jeop

may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:22 (five months ago) link

james' run made 2019 some top tier jeopardy

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:45 (five months ago) link

yeah he was must watch every night

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:46 (five months ago) link

Is Contrapoints the first Youtube channel to place?

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:46 (five months ago) link

That Scottish road trip one placed too and maybe others

Mordy, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:48 (five months ago) link

i was sure tim rogers was gonna make it but i don't see him placing this high xp

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:50 (five months ago) link

CP is the first YT to place that still would have placed if I hadn't voted for it. (I did though)

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:54 (five months ago) link

jon bois made it too

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:05 (five months ago) link

saw 2 or 3 eps of derry girls, i can see the appeal but the ones i saw all followed the exact same formula and i didn't really need any more of it.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:17 (five months ago) link

Catastrophe's brand of cynicism was too uncomfortably sadistic to watch, though I like the two main actors a lot. I thought The Let Down (Australian show on Netflix) somehow negotiated all of the bleakness in a more humane way (and I thought it was funnier).

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:38 (five months ago) link

Speaking of bleakness, I just realized that End of the F***ing World would've qualified for this poll.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:51 (five months ago) link

season 2 of end of the world was a clear step down, would've made it if i decided to just submit every show i watched in 2019 lol

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:00 (five months ago) link

Catastrophe's brand of cynicism was too uncomfortably sadistic to watch, though I like the two main actors a lot. I thought The Let Down (Australian show on Netflix) somehow negotiated all of the bleakness in a more humane way (and I thought it was funnier).

i felt the complete opposite! loved catastrophe, watched a couple of the let down and found it a bit too cruel/bleak.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:05 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/fDD5UrH.jpg
#26 (Tie) - Years and Years (BBC, HBO) - 60 points, 6 votes

Years and Years on HBO Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSOo4_7Pccg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:05 (five months ago) link

Man, I can't believe we've gotten through almost a week of results without a single one of my picks showing up. I must have amazing taste.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:07 (five months ago) link

Would like to get to #15 today so i'll try to zap one up every ten minutes or so for the next hour or so barring a surprise.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:14 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/tlSjaIs.jpg
#26 (Tie) - True Detective (HBO) - 60 points, 6 votes

TRUE DETECTIVE season 3

True Detective on HBO Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpUznQds8p4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:15 (five months ago) link

huh i forgot to vote for catastrophe, was it really last year?

dark was my #2, i know it's a bit dour (and hard to follow) but honestly i couldn't really imagine a much better bleak high stakes family soap opera time travel drama.

worried my #1 isn't going to make it now.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:29 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/8kTBRUV.jpg
#26 (Tie) - Sex Education (Netflix) - 60 points, 6 votes

Netflix Watch Instantly Recommendation Thread

Sex Education on Netflix Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SjeO145JLc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:30 (five months ago) link

True Detective s3 was its best season imho

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:34 (five months ago) link

old man stephen dorff is my spirit animal

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:40 (five months ago) link

Dorff's best role, imo. Mahershala and Carmen Ejogo also very very good.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:44 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/EwOlWkz.jpg
#25 – The Great British Bake Off / The Great British Baking Show (Channel 4, Netflix) - 60 points, 7 votes

On Your Marks, Get Set, Baaaaake! A Thread for Great British Baking Show / Bake Off & all of its sundry delights

The Great British Baking Show on Netflix Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSTqVUWEzU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:45 (five months ago) link

yeah true d was one of the last shows i cut. this season was impeccably-acted, and well-plotted as far as true detective ever is, but i missed the gothic atmosphere and flat-out weirdness of season one.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:50 (five months ago) link

Sex Education is an absolute revelation! It would have been second on my ballot had we not only started watching it a few days ago (still a couple of episodes left to watch in S2). The reality this show is set in is magnificent.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:01 (five months ago) link

Close to first on mine too. Hang on, more in a bit

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:02 (five months ago) link

need to watch TD S3 but not sure I will based on S2.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:04 (five months ago) link

I actually liked True Detective S2 -- which, I only remember parts of, but the opening credits made me very happy

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:11 (five months ago) link

need to watch TD S3 but not sure I will based on S2.

― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, February 13, 2020 4:04 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i was in the same boat for a minute, but they really might as well be two totally different series

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:14 (five months ago) link

I think about S1 all the time. I really need to see S3 (I saw a bit of S2, was a bit sick in my mouth and gave up. Do I need to revisit?)

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:15 (five months ago) link

Bake Off makes me want to retch. There is only one thing worse than Noel Fielding and that's golf.

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:16 (five months ago) link

Sex Education is ostensibly a British show set in a nameless British town (in some mythic part of Wales? Somerset? Who knows) featuring mostly British actors. The school however is a like a fever dream amalgamation of every American TV high school rolled into one with some extra 'zones', such as the toilets, which appear to be some kind of unconscious heterotopia into which the adolescent therapeutic formulations of the protagonist can be aired to his 'clients'. There are so many beautiful details to unearth in this mise-en-scene-heavy show. Just a few: there is a disproportionate amount of dungarees, denim, rainbow and pastel colours in the wardrobes of the town's inhabitants; there seems to be some kind brilliant progressive local art scene; there is seemingly only one shop. So many excellent characters, such wonderful storylines. I can't throw enough superlatives at this show.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:16 (five months ago) link

For some reason tv shows about teens gross me out though it doesn't bug me in other media

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:17 (five months ago) link

Forks can you do a recap post of 76-25? or however far you are going today.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:17 (five months ago) link

That sounds interesting. I know there was some talk about this show but I couldn't tell if that's just because everything on Netflix seems to get talked about.

Chris L, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:18 (five months ago) link

For some reason tv shows about teens gross me out though it doesn't bug me in other media

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, February 13, 2020 1:17 PM (twenty-three seconds ago)

I am kinda with you on this -- for me, it's more like "irrationally embarrassed" --college students I'm fine with, but high school, is a "no" -- they are slightly ahead of "reality shows about nouveau riche stupid people" in terms of things I just don't wanna see

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:22 (five months ago) link

tv shows about teens gross me out

In the case of shows like Big Mouth, me too. This is so hyper-realised and strange and intelligently written that it kind of transcends grossness...it's like a perfect cross between Adrian Mole, 10 Things I Hate About You and idk Lynch.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:22 (five months ago) link

okay, that's not entirely true -- if there are murders or weird alien shit, I can deal with tv teens and nouveau riche idiots

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:23 (five months ago) link

Agreed that Sex Education is awesome, it's the most life-affirming, empathetic, beautifully inclusive show on the telly right now... Well, besides Steven Universe, of course. Glad to see both of them place, though they're both too low. IMO Steven Universe was the best TV show of the 2010s.

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:23 (five months ago) link

I'd say it would only take two episodes for someone to figure out whether or not they'd like it. 2xp haha there's weird alien shit in a sense

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:24 (five months ago) link

I saw S1 of SE (out of extreme boredom) and don't remotely understand the Lynch reference.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:24 (five months ago) link

I was going to say all of that honest!

If I may play the Otis to your Maeve, this show is the most convincingly surreal mass-market UK show in...decades? Kitchen sink drama has been cast away, and replaced with some exotic and highly erudite melange of Whit Stillman, Freaks & Geeks, 13 Reasons Why, 10 Things I Hate About You...all the best US teen fare, in essence, transported to our once-dingy, now somehow gloriously exalted isle and pumped full of psychoanalysis and sex hormones (I was gonna say Adrian Mole ffs haha) until it quivers right on the edge of madness. No idea how it was greenlit or made (the SETS) but the fact it's such a success is testament to how hungry the UK viewing public was for something that aspires for our nation to be more than just a vessel for no-nonsense grit. To paraphrase Pynchon, when Britain sleeps, does she dream? And when she dreams, does she dream of America?

All this for a show about horny teenagers *enormous Eric laugh*

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:25 (five months ago) link

okay, that's not entirely true -- if there are murders or weird alien shit, I can deal with tv teens and nouveau riche idiots

― sarahell, Thursday, February 13, 2020 4:23 PM (fifty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

how about vampires, and slayers thereof?

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:25 (five months ago) link

there are too many shows that I am fairly certain I would like that I haven't yet seen ... I also have no desire to watch the cooking shows everyone loves ... life is short, and I am old, yet busy.

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:26 (five months ago) link

Lol isn't there just weird alien shit

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:26 (five months ago) link

The surreal elements must be contained to s2 cause I found the first season almost aggressively conventional

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:26 (five months ago) link

xp voodoo - it's on my list of shows I haven't seen but want to.

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:27 (five months ago) link

Though part of my interest in Buffyverse is that it is a touchstone, "ur-text" for so much else. ... Like so many episodes of Supernatural are basically rewrites of Buffy episodes (or so I'm told) -- which explains the weird gendering of Dean Winchester.

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:28 (five months ago) link

Yes, having spotless boys' toilets and girls' toilets that more closely resemble a derelict jungle lair is totally conventional and in no way any kind of inspired and deeply surreal visual touch (among many, many others)

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:31 (five months ago) link

Maybe you have to be British to really get why it's so deliriously weird idk

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:31 (five months ago) link

Clearly.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:32 (five months ago) link

Anyway, S2 is 2020's and will be hard to beat on my ballot in next year's poll.

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:34 (five months ago) link

The storylines might be conventional sometimes, but a lot of the characterisation is distinctly strange, and it's the collective details of the town that add up to create something far more than the sum of its parts.

Lynch might be a bit of a stretch (though the surrealness is amped up in S2), but I was thinking particularly of the isolated sets: the derelict bathroom, a perfectly symmetrical 'trailer park' in a valley somewhere, a distinctly old-fashioned restaurant, a breakfast table overlooking a ravine, the busstop in the middle of nowhere.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:37 (five months ago) link

It's surreal in the way Whit Stillman's Damsels In Distress was surreal - it creates a completely & insanely idiosyncratic world out of familiar materials

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:39 (five months ago) link

Jessica Jones was/has been super cathartic for me. I understand that some people (probably most people) are not viewing it the way I am, so I'm not gonna get all "how do you not see how great this show is" on this thread.

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:44 (five months ago) link

but like, in terms of dealing with the trauma of having been in that kind of an abusive relationship, it felt super real -- and even though that was more of a Season 1 thing, it still carried over into last year's season, because that trauma does stay with you. Also, the Trish wanting to be a hero like Jessica -- that's also been a "thing" in my life, so this past season was also really personal for me.

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:46 (five months ago) link

arresting all of you for watching a show about teenagers fucking

na (NA), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:52 (five months ago) link

pretty sure Riverdale will place too

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:54 (five months ago) link

it's probably the marvel thing that I find most interesting/best, although the Trish character... maybe it's a problem of bad casting for that.

Yerac, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:55 (five months ago) link

oh and going back a long ways because I just saw this thread. Dear White People is very good. I like the show better than the movie I guess? Start at the beginning, season 3 was kind of throwaway which they do meta address otm.

Yerac, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:56 (five months ago) link

I should give Ainori Love Wagon another try.

Yerac, Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:57 (five months ago) link

I'm kinda curious about this Dude Lets Flats show ... would a non-British person be able to appreciate it?

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:01 (five months ago) link

tt: "Say 'yes, watch it, don't be put off by my stupid comments'"

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:10 (five months ago) link

which American TV shows are people in other countries not able to appreciate?

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:17 (five months ago) link

football

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:19 (five months ago) link

Baseball.

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:21 (five months ago) link

xp - I would imagine there are plenty of American shows about American things that people in/from other countries don't find interesting/don't give a fuck about. Idk -- like, I honestly find Seinfeld annoying because it's so much about NYC and I have never lived there and I kinda don't need to be reminded of the self-importance of NYC, which I can envision non-Americans thinking about America as a nation.

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:22 (five months ago) link

the office

na (NA), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:23 (five months ago) link

i'm kinda surprised IASIP is popular elsewhere

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:25 (five months ago) link

I like baseball (go Rangers, I guess?) and I started watching Brockmire, which seems like it might have legs. Will see where it goes. I do like most TV.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:25 (five months ago) link

there are a lot of american shows that don't translate well.

Yerac, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:27 (five months ago) link

fyi we just began S2E5 of SE and it opens with the words "I don't get it" "You're not meant to, it's surreal"

:)

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:33 (five months ago) link

Seinfeld's funny.

The Mike Schur seasons of The Office are a really well-done ensemble sitcom with a genuinely warm & engaging wt/wt.

Always Sunny is a sitcom about terrible people being horrible to each other, like Bottom or Mother & Son or Fat Pizza or most of Galton & Simpson's writing. It's one of the most common sitcom premises!

Brockmire S1 worked absolutely fine without knowing anything about baseball. (Azaria makes his completely reprehensible character far more likeable than the types of rapey oafs who cross from sports commentary into general public awareness in Australia.)

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:40 (five months ago) link

I didn't find Seinfeld funny. It seemed like self-absorbed people from NYC having awkward NYC moments. I base this opinion on having watching parts of two episodes. Sorry, that is just how I feel.

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:47 (five months ago) link

we got him

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:06 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/L5IOxQt.jpg
#23 - Veep (HBO) - 63 points, 10 votes

A thread for Armando Iannucci's VEEP

Veep on HBO Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCTJFLv78s4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:12 (five months ago) link

23 - Veep (HBO) - 63 points, 10 votes
24 - Last Week Tonight (HBO) - 60 points, 8 votes
25 - Great British Bake Off (Channel 4, Netflix) - 60 points, 7 votes
26 (Tie) - Sex Education (Netflix) - 60 points, 6 votes
26 (Tie) - True Detective (HBO) - 60 points, 6 votes
26 (Tie) - Years and Years (BBC, HBO) - 60 points, 6 votes
29 - Jeopardy (ABC) - 58 points, 7 votes
30 - Catastrophe (Amazon) - 55 points, 7 votes
31 - Steven Universe (Cartoon Network) - 50 points, 5 votes
32 (Tie) - ContraPoints (YouTube) - 45 points, 6 votes
32 (Tie) - Dark (Netflix) - 45 points, 6 votes
32 (Tie) - Derry Girls (Channel 4, Netflix) - 45 points, 6 votes
32 (Tie) - High Maintenance (HBO) - 45 points, 6 votes
36 - Broad City (Comedy Central) - 45 points, 5 votes
37 (Tie) - Corporate (Comedy Central) - 41 points, 6 votes
37 (Tie) - Pen15 (Hulu) - 41 points, 6 votes
39 - The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (Amazon) - 40 points, 6 votes
40 (Tie) - Desus and Mero (Showtime) - 40 points, 5 votes
40 (Tie) - Gentleman Jack (BBC, HBO) - 40 points, 5 votes
40 (Tie) - The Expanse (Amazon) - 40 points, 5 votes
43 - It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FXX) - 40 points, 4 votes
44 - Silicon Valley (HBO) - 38 points, 5 votes
45 - The Good Place (NBC) - 35 points, 5 votes
46 (Tie) - Kingdom (Netflix) - 33 points, 4 votes
46 (Tie) - Stath Lets Flats (Channel 4) - 33 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - Game of Thrones (HBO) - 30 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - Pose (FX) - 30 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - The Dragon Prince (Netflix) - 30 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - Tuca and Bertie (Netflix) - 30 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - Veronica Mars (Hulu) - 30 points, 4 votes
53 (Tie) - 63 Up (ITV, UK) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Bosch (Amazon) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Euphoria (HBO) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Mortimer & Whitehouse: Gone Fishing (BBC) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Queer Eye (Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Repair Shop (BBC, Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - This Time with Alan Partridge (BBC) - 30 points, 3 votes
61 - SB Nation's Chart Party (YouTube) - 28 points, 5 votes
62 (Tie) - Documentary Now! (IFC, stream on Netflix) - 28 points, 4 votes
62 (Tie) - Ramy (Hulu) - 28 points, 4 votes
64 (Tie) - Brockmire (IFC, stream on Hulu) - 25 points, 4 votes
64 (Tie) - His Dark Materials (HBO) - 25 points, 4 votes
66 (Tie) - Big Mouth (Netflix) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Dear White People (Netflix) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Rick and Morty (Adult Swim, stream on Hulu) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - The Boys (Amazon) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Truthpoint (Adult Swim, Stream on YouTube) - 25 points, 3 votes
71 - Infinity Train (Cartoon Network, stream on web) - 25 points, 2 votes
72 - The Witcher (Netflix) - 20 points, 4 votes
73 - Jessica Jones (Netflix) - 20 points, 3 votes
74 (Tie) - GeoWizard's Mission Across Wales (YouTube) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Ainori Love Wagon: Asian Journey (Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Nailed It! (Netflix US) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Too Old To Die Young (Amazon) - 20 points, 2 votes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:13 (five months ago) link

around the time Trump became the GOP nominee Oliver's shtick crossed over from funny to tired as fuck for me and it never improved from what I've caught since

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:15 (five months ago) link

final season of veep was mostly good, but the finale was one of the better sitcom episodes i've ever seen.

earned a vote from me.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:16 (five months ago) link

tbh that goes for pretty much all late night comedy, although for some reason Jimmy Kimmel is still kinda funny

xp

frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:18 (five months ago) link

i found oliver's schtick went from repetitive to endearing to me. prolly because I am exhausted as fuck with everyone else's bullshit.

Yerac, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:21 (five months ago) link

I am amused about how high one of my (our) shows is going to be.

Yerac, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:22 (five months ago) link

Hai

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:32 (five months ago) link

:D

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:32 (five months ago) link

Veep was my #5 I think. Every time I thought about that final season it rose up my ballot. Phenomenal show with an extremely satisfying arc and v glad it rose above John Oliver. The rare show with 5+ seasons that never truly dimmed at any point, too

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:35 (five months ago) link

konbanwa!

Yerac, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:37 (five months ago) link

the writing on Oliver's show is so far ahead of regular late-night shows that I don't get how Colbert isn't too embarrassed to do his 'monologue' every night. whoever writes the A Closer Look segments for Seth Meyers is presumably working in an office on their own, as they have a decent structure and more to say than facile appearance and ignorance jokes, although they do have to stay on a "let's let off steam at 1am" tone instead of laying out how the actual functions of a government being hollowed out for authoritarianism is (*checks notes*) alarming

dropped out of Veep midway through the first LA season, dropped back in for the final year and it had improved substantially

Sorry, that is just how I feel.

not arguing with your own opinion! just saying that's how it read to people on the other side of the planet - it was a big success in Australia, ran in repeats year-round on the station that had rights to the bulk of it. (Started on a different network, and later seasons were first-run-only on FTA.) Netflix last year paid c. $600 million for global rights from 2021, up from the $130 million Hulu paid for US rights in 2015, so we can all breathe easy that Steve Bannon will be kept in double shirts through the next presidential administration there's presumably research showing other countries have been able to follow it before.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:39 (five months ago) link

that never truly dimmed at any point, too

lol xpost

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:40 (five months ago) link

Colbert's monologues were always pretty good in the beginning. I still watch every so often and it's a mixture of decent and "maybe all the writers were sick today"

I like Seth Myers' Closer Look segments (well, my wife likes them more, I probably wouldn't watch 'em on my own) and yes they're good though Myers has such a weird delivery, he talks so fast and trips over himself a lot but I still like him

frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:43 (five months ago) link

All I know of John Oliver is the recycled stream of quotes recited by one of my 9-year-old students. I think I like it best that way.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:44 (five months ago) link

That’s not to say anything either way about John Oliver, I just recommend recycled TV news.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:49 (five months ago) link

whoever writes the A Closer Look segments for Seth Meyers is presumably working in an office on their own

turns out nearly - it's a former producer for Chris Hayes on MSNBC who writes the scripts overnight (eg from 8pm to 4am), edits to Meyers' notes at the office during the day (9am to 4pm), the writers' room do punch up after rehearsal in front of an audience at 4;15pm, main dude rushes new updates into script if relevant news breaks before taping at 6:30.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 14 February 2020 00:02 (five months ago) link

Like Oliver's long-form delving, love the stunts, but his delivery never transcends the material. Jon Stewart and Colbert could make me laugh even with weaksauce jokes. And I'll take Sam Bee's writing team over the other Daily Show alumni.

forgotten even to the sea (Sanpaku), Friday, 14 February 2020 01:21 (five months ago) link

Still none of my 6 picks have shown up, although I expect to see 5 of them.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 01:36 (five months ago) link

I don't know why but I find Oliver almost unwatchable, my parents love him to death but I just find it an unbearable smarm exercise

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 February 2020 05:25 (five months ago) link

yeah one of my favorite people hates the schtick (oliver) but I have grown quite fond of it.

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 05:33 (five months ago) link

I like him but tend to watch his videos when people link them rather than week by week so I have no clue how many I saw in 2019 and how many of those were even from 2019

Vinnie, Friday, 14 February 2020 11:37 (five months ago) link

I still like him, but he suffers badly from presumed-male audience syndrome. All of his jokes are directed at men, and there are a looooot of dick jokes. It doesn't offend me, but it is a strangely exclusionary editorial voice for him to adopt.

trishyb, Friday, 14 February 2020 13:03 (five months ago) link

Also, I find Dark funny. Especially the relentless rain. It can't not be a joke.

trishyb, Friday, 14 February 2020 13:05 (five months ago) link

All of my top 3 have placed, so the rest of this roll out will be me off to the side quietly shaking my head.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 13:50 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/SZU0N8w.jpg
#21 - When They See Us (Netflix) - 65 points, 7 votes

Netflix Watch Instantly Recommendation Thread

When They See Us on Netflix Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3F9n_smGWY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 13:55 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/GxKaYHC.jpg
#20 – The Righteous Gemstones (HBO) - 68 points, 9 votes

The Righteous Gemstones

The Righteous Gemstones on HBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS89h7P_nZ8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 14:36 (five months ago) link

I wasn't wild about the tidy ending to s1 but overall this was my favorite Jody Hill thing since early Eastbound

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 14:41 (five months ago) link

There it is

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:10 (five months ago) link

to my shame, i avoided the 'hard to watch' acclaimed series of last year. chernobyl, when they see us, unbelievable, etc.

definitely planning on checking out the former two sometime this year, might need some selling for the latter.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:12 (five months ago) link

gemstones, on the other hand, i voted for. i started off not finding the show very funny, but being intrigued by the family drama and the overarching plot. once i got a hang of the characters (especially when walton goggins showed up), that's when it went from good to fantastic. it's impossible not to laugh at everything that edi patterson says.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:16 (five months ago) link

Whoever said reality TV was finished hadn't reckoned on Japan and its cultural tendency towards awesomely awkward interpersonal hang-ups that turn the ostensibly simple art of seduction into an intense, drawn-out and operatic game of chicken

Also, this is reality TV insofar as they live together and are on camera, but they still have working lives (albeit that these are often on camera too), which is a far preferable set-up to the usual panopticon (that said, the most panopticon-esque set-up of all, The Circle, is one I should have voted for too)

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:17 (five months ago) link

Gemstones almost worked more for me as a drama than a comedy.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:19 (five months ago) link

uncle baby billy

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:32 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/OXyyq01.jpg
#18 - Killing Eve (BBC America/BBC) - 80 points, 8 votes

These Drinks Is Vicious: The Killing Eve Thread

Killing Eve on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVTZhOLpXjI

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:44 (five months ago) link

Unbelievable was really great. The first episode is kind of hard to watch, but the rest of it is Merrit Wever and Toni Collette doing dogged detective work and taking no shit. After watching the police department mishandle the case in episode 1, there is an inspirational thrill in seeing how it should be done with persistence and compassion. Also reminiscent of The Wire in the way it reveals institutional failures.

jaymc, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:50 (five months ago) link

agreed, superb performances all round

nxd, Friday, 14 February 2020 15:50 (five months ago) link

I lost interest in Killing Eve pretty early on in s1 and no one seemed to think s2 was an improvement

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:52 (five months ago) link

i enjoy killing eve but it's pretty ridiculous. mostly in it for jodie comer's performance and clothes at this point. don't think i voted for it.

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:54 (five months ago) link

conversation from the Netflix thread about Unbelievable (which i voted for)

SPOILERS FOR UNBELIEVABLE, DON'T LOOK IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW
So here's my issue with the last episode of unbelievable which was, overall I think, a really great show: having spent six hours explaining to me how broken and fucked up the system is and how the deck is always stacked in favor of the assaulter and how violent and prone to abuse the cops are, we end on a hour of full catharsis. Marie gets closure with the cop who fucked her over and the police get a complete win with this serial rapist put away for multiple lifetimes. Marie calls Detective Grace from a beach and thanks her for being there, explicitly stating that what made the difference was knowing that someone out there was watching over her, even if she didn't know it... and then she literally drives off into the sunset to her new life.
Now I read the propublica piece (and i recommend everyone after watching this does too! it's astonishing how close the story sticks to the record: https://www.propublica.org/article/false-rape-accusations-an-unbelievable-story ) so i get that they're basically hewing to the actual facts but they certainly do have control over the themes they're touching on. After so much time showing and telling how the system is broken, i couldn't help feeling that the conclusion of the series suggested that what Marie's shitty foster mom hurtfully said ("sometimes the system works") was the moral of the overall story. That left me VERY cold, that they would hint even obliquely, much less openly and blatantly, that though the system is busted it occasionally works and might even be defensible for its occasional wins. Which runs counter to most everything we've been told up until then!
I was really taken with the veracity of the show up until then and the way that it showed rape policing done both as good as it could be and as bad as it could be... but that in both case it amounts to a secondary assault and that no one seems to be addressing how to change that. I thought the acting was outrageously good and that the casting couldn't have been better; as soon as ANY minor character showed up I was jolted with the "ooo they got THEM!" I felt battered after the first two episodes. I appreciated the program's willingness not to give the rapist a voice or any platform whatsoever; the moment of his strip search seemed appropriately cathartic. I just felt cheated that after so much honesty and clarity, we wind up with such an entirely optimistic ending and one that seemed, well, unbelievable. Even if it did happen! There were different and less maintain-the-status-quo endings to be had i think.
Anyways, this is incendiary subject matter and i feel it would be a better conversation than trading of paragraphs but i'm wondering if you had similar feelings.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:30 PM

SPOILERS CONTINUE DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED UNBELIEVABLE
yeah i had a quite different reaction! i was afraid that Marie was going to toss herself off the cliff after talking with Duvall, but instead she walked back to her car, and she was more or less ok. yeah, she was still alone in the world (which i can relate to) and had some heavy baggage, but she didn't toss herself off the cliff. and her confrontation with the cop who didn't believe her was clearly so shameful for him. i think the thing that struck me was that he, the guy who deeply fucked her life, DID seem to recognize his role in the system. that was actually hugely gratifying for me to see. in a world where we see powerful people sneering and howling to protect the careers and reputations of Their Boys even though Their Boys are rapists, it felt good to see a doubter squirm & repent. i thought he might kill himself too tbh.
haven't read the propublica thing yet -- but what the show illuminated for me personally was the very clear double-assault nature of this type of violent assault. first, you have the actual assault. then you have the assault of no one believing you/DARVO from people defending the assaulter. in this situation, the rapist had no defenders. not even himself. that was powerful and actually made the show easier to watch.
the casting was indeed excellent.
as stated, i thought singing "mack the knife" was quite tasteless under the circumstances but maybe that is dark humor that i don't get or just an oversight.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, October 17, 2019 11:42 PM

and they did show the other cop that helped push the retraction just kind of blow it all off.
― Yerac, Thursday, October 17, 2019 11:46 PM

WHAT MORE SPOILERS OH MY GOD WHY HAVEN'T YOU STARTED A THREAD WELL I GUESS WE ARE IN A THREAD YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT
Honestly didn't even occur to me that Marie might kill herself on the beach! Obviously your take on he power dynamics is valid and I'm not sure what I wanted or expected... a horrible painful ending where everyone acknowledges that even when the bad guy goes down and justice is in some sense served that the system is equally culpable for generally allowing these sort of assaults to go unreported, uninvestigated and unwitnessed wasn't going to do anybody any good when the actual story does have clearer, less horrendous closure.
I guess I saw an opportunity to use this story to call for change in the way rapes are investigated, reported and in the way police and communities deal with victims and I'm not sure this ending did that at all. My sense was that the directors named the problem but then mostly acted like it was unavoidable. I would've liked more of cri de coeur than a general thumbs up to "good police work". But I can certainly understand how an ending in which repercussions for horrible actions are repaid with imprisonment amidst a great cast of strong, intelligent female leads might trump that concern for you. I guess what offended you about the mack the knife bit was what offended me about the larger, pro-police structure of the whole episode: I don't see how this pertains to the story I've been told up till now and it seems in bad taste.
in the propublica story, i think the other cop is either dead or retired by the time marie comes back so that was probably there to provide some narrative balance.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, October 17, 2019 11:57 PM

I listened to the This American Life episode they did about the real life case in 2016, and it's pretty stunning that even after everything that happened the foster mom still thinks it's kind of Marie's fault for not acting the way she should have after being raped
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, October 18, 2019 7:53 PM

ugh, one way to remove her responsibility from what happened to Marie.
― Yerac, Friday, October 18, 2019 8:55 PM

the show writers went out of their way to show the humanity of pretty much all the female characters except for her.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, October 18, 2019 9:01 PM

i did think the show did an excellent job of illustrating the lifelong reverberations of sexual assault, and that it actually takes a special sort of investigator to interview victims. it highlighted a lot of the failures of the system without being super obvious about it because they were highlighted by the way the two women investigators handled things in contrast to...everyone else.
it did a good job of dismantling elements of rape culture that seem extremely difficult for many people to grasp.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, October 18, 2019 9:03 PM

including the shitty foster mom
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, October 18, 2019 9:04 PM

perhaps worth adding, shitty foster mom who made it clear that she too had been sexually assaulted
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, October 18, 2019 9:28 PM

IME this is a generational thing.
― akm, Friday, October 18, 2019 9:38 PM

like....I saw my mother recently (she's 72 now) and she laid this bomb on me: that one of her friends had had a child in the late 60's and has maintained that she was raped. She also let it slip that my uncle or someone else may have been the father. and then my mother just said "she says she was raped but I don't believe that." She's still friends with this woman. They're in their 70's. This woman has said she was raped for over 40 years. And my mom still doesn't believe her? Maybe because she implicated her brother? I don't even fucking know. But there is a generation that looks at everything askance if it doesn't fit into their preconceived notions of how people should be.
― akm, Friday, October 18, 2019 9:40 PM

MORE UNBELIEVABLE SPOILERS
Just wanted to chime in that I binged this last night and today, because I wanted so badly to see Marie get some kind of win while she was drowning in a sea of people of couldn't or wouldn't offer the smallest bit of empathy for her.
What else I liked was how the series showed how much backbreaking, beach-combing work the detectives did to find the guy, picking up on the most tenuous threads that led to an enormous pool of suspects and still making sense of all that noise.
But all the same, I kind of agree with Ulysses, that the exceptional case of the system, that's so stacked against women in assault cases, might allow some kind of retroactive justice seems to justify the existence of the same system. OTOH, it does underline how badly the system also depends on empathy for it to have any semblance of serving the public -- in stark distinction of justice being blind. I don't know if it's an optimistic reading or a bittersweet reading, that something abstract like justice depends on people overcoming so many systemic biases, to spend so much time and energy struggling against and through the status quo, when in a better world it should just work.
I'm definitely going to read the PP story at some point, as the miniseries has a few moments that were clearly designed to educate viewers ("this is how Y-STRs work, young intern") and I want to know what's rooted in the actual case.
― HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Saturday, October 19, 2019 11:38 PM

ONE MORE SPOILER
One dangling thread is how the guy's encrypted drive remains encrypted, how the prosecutor seems absolutely indifferent about trying to crack that.
Oh and for a family that are both cops, the Duvalls have a hell of a nice spread.
― HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Saturday, October 19, 2019 11:58 PM

I kept wondering what happened to the encrypted drive as well. No answers on that was disappointing. Who knows what else that malevolent creep did.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, October 20, 2019 12:02 AM

It's a overused statement at this point but the whole time that Rose McGowan quote played in my head “The only perfect rape victim is a dead rape victim."
― Yerac, Sunday, October 20, 2019 1:36 AM

the ProPublica article that inspired the show was expanded into a book - "A False Report" - if anyone wants more background on the case
― Number None, Sunday, October 20, 2019 9:39 AM

i would actually! will hunt it down. Everyone should read the readily available propublica article; it's stunning how closely they stuck to the facts. Some of the dialogue is lifted verbatim!
and along the same lines RE: that encrypted hard drive via reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnbelievableNetflix/comments/d59o54/encrypted_hard_drive/
From the epilogue of the book:
"John Evans, the computer forensics expert] sent the file to the FBI's geek squad, the Cryptologic and Electronic Analysis Unit of the Operational Technology Division. One of the most secretive branches of the agency, the cryptology unit had helped the National Security Administration comb through millions of emails. And its scientists, agents, and coders had helped numerous local law enforcement agencies with tough computer cases. But even the cryptologists could not break open the Wretch."
"On some days, when he is running a route high in the mountains, Bob Weiner's (the DA) thoughts will unexpectedly drift back to the Wretch. It has been years since O'Leary pleaded guilty. He is in prison for the rest of his life. He has never revealed the password. Weiner wonders what it could contain. 'Maybe there's information in there of a murder. I don't know,' Weiner says. 'My mind, periodically reverts back to 'What's going on, what is in there? I still think about it.'"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, October 20, 2019 8:28 PM

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 15:58 (five months ago) link

S2 of Killing Eve was pretty poor. Surprised to see it so high

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:09 (five months ago) link

I've never even heard of Unbelievable, but the descriptions of it make it seem like something I would love. guess that'll be my next show

Vinnie, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:11 (five months ago) link

it's remarkable but i continue to be frustrated by how it ties up its loose ends with what could be regarded as a pro-status quo message.

Michael Chabon did script work on it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:12 (five months ago) link

Edi Patterson is just a hilarious breakout star on both Gemstones and Vice-Principals.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:13 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/TvXozXJ.jpg
#16 (Tie) - The Mandalorian a.k.a. “Baby Yoda” (Disney +) - 85 points, 11 votes

Star Wars: The Mandalorian

The Mandalorian on Disney+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmI7WKrAtqs

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:14 (five months ago) link

Excellent show. Really captured the vibe of the original films.

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:15 (five months ago) link

pathetic

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:16 (five months ago) link

pvmic

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:20 (five months ago) link

I hope none of you paid for it at least

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:21 (five months ago) link

is it that bad?

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:21 (five months ago) link

no

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:22 (five months ago) link

i didn't vote for it, but it's perfectly fine escapism. the xena comparisons are otm, i'll add in the old school incredible hulk as another comp.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:22 (five months ago) link

i'm not super-mad about it or anything but why post a bunch of spoilers about a show into a thread that's not about that show?

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:23 (five months ago) link

S2 of Killing Eve was embarrassingly bad. I had to turn it off.

Many, many xps: Dark was mostly great but I don't think I can handle another season of people explaining the plot in rooms.

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:27 (five months ago) link

Huge stan for Terrace House (franchise). While this installment isn't necessarily the best, no show has caused me to tune (via VPN) in every week in a very long time, especially for 5+ seasons.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:31 (five months ago) link

I'm way behind on Terrace House, but yeah it's the only good show

jmm, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:32 (five months ago) link

I saw 3-4 eps of the first Netflix season(??) and it was oddly transfixing, but when I saw how many seasons there were I got intimidated and lost interest

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:33 (five months ago) link

xp to NA: because those comments are buried in the middle of an 11k post thread about netflix

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:38 (five months ago) link

Dark was mostly great but I don't think I can handle another season of people explaining the plot in rooms.

Next season is last one though so should tie everything up

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:42 (five months ago) link

10 eps of one long convo in one room

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:44 (five months ago) link

oh right, another thing i meant to watch but didn't find the time.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:44 (five months ago) link

voted for GLOW, it was once again outstanding. Alison Brie and Betty Gilpin are both phenomenal, which isn't to take away from the rest of the cast, which ranges from good to sublime, but without those two operating at such a high level the show might not work half as well.

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:45 (five months ago) link

TOO LOW

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:01 (five months ago) link

v glad it beat Star Wars Babies tho

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:02 (five months ago) link

pathetic (nb, have never seen this show)

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:03 (five months ago) link

too low

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:03 (five months ago) link

still need to watch the last three episodes (but i don't want it to end forever :( )

this was my #3.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:05 (five months ago) link

for the uninitiated: a now-axed, wistful-but-funny, and *very* hard to summarize series about "late" capitalism, gentrification, loss, dream logic, idealism, and about a million other things. and no, the early axing doesn't make it not worth the investment.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:06 (five months ago) link

would've voted for this if I'd voted - not quite finished the first season tho but will do this weekend

nashwan, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:06 (five months ago) link

This cult of this Lodge 49 is continuing to grow after cancellation at an insane rate. I'm on my 3rd go at it and continue to recommend it to people, all of whom are pretty blown away by the writing/reveals/allegories.

I am so bummed I came into this show too late, seems like it's a common thread with its rabid fanbase.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:08 (five months ago) link

I'm hoping there's still some minute chance word of mouth spreads enough that it gets another chance somewhere, though I know Jim Gavin already ruled it out. A belated, beyond-all-hope resurrection would be all too fitting.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:11 (five months ago) link

At the very least I'd love a physical release.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:11 (five months ago) link

wouldn't we all

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:16 (five months ago) link

ayooo

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:16 (five months ago) link

TOO LOW!

tangenttangent, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:17 (five months ago) link

A belated, beyond-all-hope resurrection would be all too fitting.

It really would! Please let this happen, universe. Lodge 49 my number 1, pretty much of all time.

tangenttangent, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:19 (five months ago) link

I have been all too happy to spread the gospel.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:20 (five months ago) link

still need to watch S2 season of L49.

Mandalorian was mostly aimless until the last two episodes. pretty fun fam show overall.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:25 (five months ago) link

I'm working through season 2 r/n, & I have ilx to thank for hipping me to this beautiful show

may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:30 (five months ago) link

Lodge 49 - The most humane, faith-restoring show ever. It unfurls quietly but magnificently, weaving a tapestry of obscure interconnected moments for the viewer to interpret. All of the occulty details are just so fun as well and seem to inspire a genuine child-like awe in the show's fanbase.

Terrace House - My #3. Like Albert said, it's not the best season, but as an entry point it's as good as any, and wow there are still some excellent and confounding moments. Unlike a lot of reality TV, it's genuinely unpredictable, because truths are usually harder won. The panel are still killing it, ofc.

Glow - Still excellent. So good at making me care about all of the characters.

tangenttangent, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:31 (five months ago) link

Yamachan is the GOAT reality panellist yeah and he's only getting better

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:32 (five months ago) link

This Lodge 49 discussion is the first thing on the list where the discussion makes me feel like "I should give this show I've never seen that doesn't seem like my kind of show a chance."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:38 (five months ago) link

xpost Yeah, I'd seen bits and pieces of it after Better Call Saul and, tbqh, it seemed like just another in the long line of low-effort shows that AMC airs after their big hits and that get deservedly cancelled after a couple seasons, mixed with maybe like John from Cincinnati. But y'all are stoking my interest.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:46 (five months ago) link

Lodge 49 is incredible, just a beautiful show

otherwise: you guys watch a lot of garbage

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:47 (five months ago) link

First half of Bojack S6 (the eligible part) was a return to form imo

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:47 (five months ago) link

Discussion of S6 part 2 is BANNED because we still have two episodes left btw

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:47 (five months ago) link

Really enjoyed the last few episodes (not much talk on the thread what's the deal? xp oh) despite the grim trajectory of...most of the characters but esp. the lead

nashwan, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:48 (five months ago) link

did i vote? no. however: too low

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:48 (five months ago) link

BANNED

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:49 (five months ago) link

also yeah too low etc

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:49 (five months ago) link

i c u

nashwan, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:49 (five months ago) link

The surprise party episode and the church reenactment episode alone should have had this in the top ten

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:51 (five months ago) link

first half season 6 was pretty excellent, writing was top notch.

need to watch s6 part 2 again to decide which half i prefer, but it seems like the first half optimized the drama/comedy balance a bit better than the second?

either way, this was in my top 5.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:52 (five months ago) link

lol yes, the surprise party episode was so good.

and don't even get me started on gary, the guy who i met at the gas station!

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:52 (five months ago) link

Out of curiosity, how did everyone come by this Lodge 49 consensus? I'm admittedly unattuned to the zeitgeist but I'm fairly sure I've never heard or seen anyone saying anything about the show one way or another.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:55 (five months ago) link

^^^not in the lodge

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:55 (five months ago) link

Clearly.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:55 (five months ago) link

it's okay, I'm not in the lodge either, I see tt go off and wonder what she's doing but she always comes back in the best mood

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:56 (five months ago) link

made a lot of critic top ten lists, but yeah i didn't see much discussion (and i don't know anyone irl who's seen the show that i didn't specifically recommend the show to)

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:57 (five months ago) link

simon h has championed it around here and got quite a few of us to check it out i think.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:58 (five months ago) link

I admit I thought Bojack s5 was pure water-treading territory so I have yet to check out s6

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:59 (five months ago) link

it's very good imo

sleeve, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:59 (five months ago) link

4 > 3 > 2 > 6 > 1 >>> 5

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:00 (five months ago) link

s5 wasn't that bad, c'mon

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:01 (five months ago) link

definitely lesser than 2-3-4 but so are most things

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:01 (five months ago) link

All relative. S1 is still great. Sad horse show is all time

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:01 (five months ago) link

Out of curiosity, how did everyone come by this Lodge 49 consensus?

saw it discussed rapturously here + my brother was into it, but what sealed the deal was seeing some RIP tweet from the showrunner about how central Trish Keenan and Broadcast were to the aesthetic of the show and then I was like okay I'm in. It's amazing. Best original show of recent years, hands down.

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:09 (five months ago) link

oh yeah and DJI/my bandmate also repped for it

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:09 (five months ago) link

i voted for lodge 49 even though i haven't seen s2 yet. i don't love it as rapturously as some but i really appreciate the combo of mysticism and general financial insecurity. and it has david pasquesi, i.e. stu the meat man

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:11 (five months ago) link

it's a "critical favorite"

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:12 (five months ago) link

Hmmm, I am likewise intrigued by the Broadcast evocation.

And I do love me some Pasquesi but he's been in some, hmm, not great stuff.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:13 (five months ago) link

he will always be THE MEAT MAN to me, but tbf Pasquesi is incredible in this, goes places I didn't know he had in him

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:14 (five months ago) link

and hey i just noticed s2 of lodge 49 is up on hulu now!

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:15 (five months ago) link

B Horseman one of my very favorite shows of the recent era but my memory of the 2019 eps is that they didn't quite rise to the level I expected (and indeed I don't remember them that well.) Still probably too low! (Didn't make my top 4 but would have been in my top 10 had I done 10.) I somehow can't get interested in Diane & Guy -- even the name seems to suggest they can't find much to say about the character.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:15 (five months ago) link

S3 was so much better than S2

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:19 (five months ago) link

lucky for you I'm already hoarse from previous booing

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:20 (five months ago) link

this show fucking sucks

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:22 (five months ago) link

Rewatched all of BoJack before second half of S6 and S5 was much better second time around. Free Churros is probably one of the (many) best episodes overall.

S6 Part 1 was great and a travesty that Stranger Things has finished above it.

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:23 (five months ago) link

"Free Churros" was the show at its self-indulgent worst for me lol

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:24 (five months ago) link

he will always be THE MEAT MAN to me, but tbf Pasquesi is incredible in this, goes places I didn't know he had in him

― Οὖτις, Friday, February 14, 2020 12:14 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

If/when y'all find yourself in Chicago, make a point of seeing TJ & Dave, the weekly two-man improv show he does with T.J. 'yes, that guy from the Sonic commercials' Jagodowski. It's the only improv I'd ever recommend to the uninitiated and I recommend it highly. They're both amazingly nuanced and intuitive performers. P.S. If Tracy Letts is sitting in for one of them, DO NOT SEE; Pulitzer Prizes apparently do not translate into improv performance skillz.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:26 (five months ago) link

TJ and Dave are a fun show for sure.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:27 (five months ago) link

Stranger Things is good, eff the haters, and this season was quite fun. Ethan Uma Jr. was a swell addition to the cast. That said: did not vote for it.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:29 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/3Ky6l2m.jpg
#12 - Schitt's Creek (Pop US) - 101 points, 11 votes

Netflix Watch Instantly Recommendation Thread

Schitt’s Creek on Netflix Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mzdm3gzraI

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:29 (five months ago) link

I lost interest in Killing Eve pretty early on in s1 and no one seemed to think s2 was an improvement

This was my reaction to S1, I was kind of dumbfounded out some of the plot turns.

Loved the first two seasons of GLOW, and I threw some points at it for this poll mostly out of fondness for them, because I didn't like the third season at all.

And speaking of dreary sitcoms that I found completely unfunny...

I loathe Bojack. Tried watching the first episode again and bailed halfway through, never so much as a cracked a smile at its humor.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:30 (five months ago) link

Everyone says this show is good, but I've always avoided it because of it's too-cute title

may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:30 (five months ago) link

refuse to watch because canadian but I'm glad we finally produced a new series y'all enjoy, I guess

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:30 (five months ago) link

couldn't make it through more than a few episodes of the first season, no matter how much I love Chris Elliott.

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:31 (five months ago) link

Loathe seems a pretty extreme reaction to a show you've only ever watched one episode of xps

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:34 (five months ago) link

it's very funny and also effectively heartwarming, which is not usually something i enjoy. it does take a few eps to get rolling.

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:35 (five months ago) link

chris elliott is maybe the worst thing about the show, and i'm a fan

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:36 (five months ago) link

YESSSSSSS. Had this been a ranked ballot, I might have put Schitt's Creek at #1. I likewise avoided it for forever because of the title, begrudgingly gave it a shot very recently at my gf's suggestion, and we have very quickly fallen deeply in love with it. The format is straight-up sitcom but man, the performances are great and often hilarious and then out of nowhere incredibly touching and poignant etc. I honestly cannot say enough good things about it. As I posted in the Parks and Rec thread, if you like/love that show, I would urge you to give this one an honest go. And yeah, it kinda takes a season to really get its footing, so stick with it.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:37 (five months ago) link

i also liked 'Free Churro' and think if you're gonna try Bojack, that's a place to start.
https://observer.com/2018/10/bojack-horseman-free-churro-finds-comedy-in-tragedy-you-get-it-right/

Alternately 'Downer Ending'?
https://www.avclub.com/its-fear-and-self-loathing-in-hollywoo-as-bojack-horsem-1799802691

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:37 (five months ago) link

chris elliott is maybe the worst thing about the show, and i'm a fan

― na (NA), Friday, February 14, 2020 12:36 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Precisely this. Dan Levy is a goddamn MVP and I hope he goes on to very good things after the show ends.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:38 (five months ago) link

i also liked 'Free Churro' and think if you're gonna try Bojack, that's a place to start.
https://observer.com/2018/10/bojack-horseman-free-churro-finds-comedy-in-tragedy-you-get-it-right/

really? it's obviously a great episode, but also totally singular and won't prepare you for any of the other episodes

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:39 (five months ago) link

downer ending is probably a good starting point otoh, comes in at the end of s1 and was the first indication of the levels of weird and sad the show would eventually reach

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:40 (five months ago) link

Michael Chabon did script work on it.

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, February 14, 2020 8:12 AM (two hours ago)

not a selling point for me ... especially after he and his wife thought it would be great for them to script a show about Ghost Ship -- ugh, no. Fuck off Michael Chabon.

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:42 (five months ago) link

So disappointed atm: if "When They See Us" wasn't gonna win, then at least the logical winner should have been the Star Wars Babies show. ...

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:44 (five months ago) link

it's obviously a great episode, but also totally singular and won't prepare you for any of the other episodes

i mean in terms of "does this show get good" as a sampler that won't act as too much of a spoiler for the plotline

Fuck off Michael Chabon.

i don't know anything about any ghost ship show but the writing for unbelievable (especially the eps he's credited with) is very good.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:46 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/dBoWnD6.jpg
#11 - Watchmen (HBO) - 120 points, 13 votes

Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

Watchmen on HBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zymgtV99Rko

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:46 (five months ago) link

Top 10 coming up! Give your guesses as to lineup and so on.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:47 (five months ago) link

Are we going to #1 today?

Also too low

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:48 (five months ago) link

Russian Doll & Fleabag are locks

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:48 (five months ago) link

i'm gonna do my best to knock this out today, yes.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:49 (five months ago) link

succession, i think you should leave, hopefully joe pera

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:49 (five months ago) link

Hopefully Undone, probably Chernobyl

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:50 (five months ago) link

Mindhunter would be in there, I would think.

clemenza, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:51 (five months ago) link

I kind of think that The OA is going to get some love? Even on ILX it's mostly a culty following but maybe it makes up for the sparseness with more enthusiasm?

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:51 (five months ago) link

could it be that on cinema does not place somehow?

Mordy, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:52 (five months ago) link

it definitely will

Watchmen was at the bottom of my ballot.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:53 (five months ago) link

Barry has a shot presumably, surprised watchmen didn’t make the top 10 but obv ilx is full of detractors for the very idea of it

Clay, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:53 (five months ago) link

on cinema
fleabag
russian doll
joe pera
i think you should leave
chernobyl
undone
succession
barry

and uhhh one more

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:54 (five months ago) link

Mindhunter

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:54 (five months ago) link

oh right

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:55 (five months ago) link

I was like "that show looks awful" then I realized I was thinking of the Emma Stone/Jonah Hill thing and not the awesome show I love

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:55 (five months ago) link

No, Mr. Robot? (I've only seen the first 1 1/2 seasons so maybe it got bad)

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 14 February 2020 18:56 (five months ago) link

If/when y'all find yourself in Chicago, make a point of seeing TJ & Dave, the weekly two-man improv show he does with T.J. 'yes, that guy from the Sonic commercials' Jagodowski.

Pretty sure they have not had a weekly gig in Chicago in at least a few years, though they are doing a couple of reunion gigs next month.

jaymc, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:57 (five months ago) link

love Schitt's Creek, would have been my #1 if i could have ranked it. genuinely wonderful and frequently hilarious, almost always pleasant, and almost sci-fi in its utopianism. Incredible performances from all four of the main cast, w/valuable supporting work all around, and Chris Elliott is fine though the total LVP here if i'm being honest. he's just about the last reason to watch this. This is sort of the antithesis of a cruel comedy show, which doesn't deaden the humor whatsoever. it somehow makes the core premise extremely fresh and increasingly so over its entire run, along w/a lot of unexpected twists and turns and some vv forward thinking depictions. many moments of being blindsided by unexpected emotion etc.

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:57 (five months ago) link

i don't know anything about any ghost ship show

It was announced back in December. It was included in some network PR thing about a package deal Chabon was involved in. It got shared and forwarded to people whose friends and family members died in the fire. There was public outrage and angry tweets, and then Chabon and Waldman, fairly quickly dropped the idea.

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:02 (five months ago) link

at some point i will watch watchmen against my better judgment, primarily because of regina king

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:02 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Fg28igA.jpg
#10 - What We Do in Shadows (FX) - 123 points, 13 votes

Taika Waititi

What We Do In Shadows on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R2dDwzuZ4s

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:02 (five months ago) link

oh

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:03 (five months ago) link

I hope this means undone didn't place

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:03 (five months ago) link

watchmen was my #1 so i should probably say something about it but it was just really well made and smart and the hooded justice origin episode was probably the best episode of tv i saw last year. nb a week later i regretted not swapping it with my #2 vote (which is yet to place)

Mordy, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:03 (five months ago) link

surprisingly low for watchmen, i had it as #7 or so so i'm not complaining

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:04 (five months ago) link

what we do in the shadows was my #10 so good job everyone

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:04 (five months ago) link

Russian Doll is prob the biggest oversight from my ballot, would’ve been top 5 if I hadn’t missed it in the noms list

Clay, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:04 (five months ago) link

need to watch both of those last two -- okay, I am not mad at u ilx

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:05 (five months ago) link

Pretty sure they have not had a weekly gig in Chicago in at least a few years, though they are doing a couple of reunion gigs next month.

― jaymc, Friday, February 14, 2020 12:57 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol, oops, I'm clearly all the way out of the loop.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:06 (five months ago) link

I kind of think that The OA is going to get some love? Even on ILX it's mostly a culty following but maybe it makes up for the sparseness with more enthusiasm?

― Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, February 14, 2020 12:51 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

No, Mr. Robot? (I've only seen the first 1 1/2 seasons so maybe it got bad)

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, February 14, 2020 12:56 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink\

Both of these were on my very short ballot and thusly heavily weighted, but I wouldn't put money on either showing up at this point, no.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:08 (five months ago) link

I'm still mad I wasted so much time with Mr. Robot s2 and 3

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:09 (five months ago) link

My still to come guesses:

On Cinema
Russian Doll
Joe Pera
Mindhunter
maybe Doom Patrol but probably not Doom Patrol

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:09 (five months ago) link

As noted in the dedicated thread, Mr. Robot improved a great deal in the home stretch and stuck the landing both better than I ever would have expected and with greater skill than many other shows have managed. I was impressed.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:11 (five months ago) link

still working through season 4 of mr robot, but it's been pretty solid so far.

didn't vote for it cause i didn't start watching til last month

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:11 (five months ago) link

let's stop guessing and talk about how awesome what we do in the shadows is?

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:12 (five months ago) link

Terrace House! Throw a weighted blanket over me in a hot bath!

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:13 (five months ago) link

i watched the first season, liked it, then forgot it existed though vague memories of it would insert themselves into my recollections of other shows, and I wouldn't remember where they came from.

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:13 (five months ago) link

How does this compare to the film (which I liked)

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:14 (five months ago) link

Would have voted Lodge 49 but only seen the first season

or something, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:14 (five months ago) link

Two shows that I've realized over the past week that I forgot to nominate and possibly would have voted for:

Magic for Humans (a charming and funny Abso-lutely production featuring prestidigitation, which is usually not my thing but is totally my thing in this particular context)
How to Get Away with Murder (a show I never in a million years would've ever thought to watch of my own volition or would've ever thought I'd like but got sucked all the way into last year, completely ludicrous and ott but hella addictive and Viola Davis is just magnificent all the time)

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:16 (five months ago) link

re: shadows -- one of my bff's was telling me about it the last time we hung out, and said it was on par with the film, and that I should watch both, and gave me his hulu login so I could watch it. I haven't as yet watched it, but his summary made it sound great.

OMG -- why did I forget to nominate How to Get Away with Murder?!!!! That is one of my faves!

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:18 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/MLWqH5h.jpg
#9 – Dr. Pimple Popper (TLC) - 130 points, 13 votes

Hi I'm Captain Pimple.

Dr. Pimple Popper on Hulu Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWrj2ejA48

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:18 (five months ago) link

I am occasional buddies with the lead actor in How To Get Away With Murder /namedrop - he's a lovely and very erudite chap and I keep missing his plays because they sell out

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:19 (five months ago) link

Do you mean the lead actor who (ahem ahem, spoilers) is no longer a regular on the show?

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:20 (five months ago) link

AKA he who was featured in a series of fillums about a wizarding school?

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:21 (five months ago) link

How does this compare to the film (which I liked)

― imago, Friday, February 14, 2020 2:14 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

very similar style of humor, with additional characters and depth.

the lead actors are all hilarious, especially matt berry, and funny in a way that's distinct from the original trio.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:21 (five months ago) link

I mean the one who was in Harry Potter, if that's the one you mean ah yes gotcha xp

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:21 (five months ago) link

xp - you are buddies with Viola Davis?

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:21 (five months ago) link

Will have to check out this Shadows thing then ty

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:22 (five months ago) link

Watchmen was one i voted for but i have a hard time being passionate about it, except that its treatment of racism in America was really, really well-done and therefore the final episode was satisfying, and the Hooded Justice episode was probably the peak. Lots of the rest seemed overly mannered and refined and while clever didn't really make me feel anything other than impressed at the clever machinations. The acting was excellent, as one would imagine with that cast.

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:22 (five months ago) link

the vampire trial episode of wwdits is an obvious standout, but i also loved the escalating running gags about gabriel's accidental slaying abilities and nadja's endlessly reincarnated ex 'grigor'

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:22 (five months ago) link

Anyway, has forks dropped some sort of fake on us

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:24 (five months ago) link

probably would've voted watchmen higher if i liked the final episode more, but overall it was high quality. still pales in comparison to s2 and 3 of leftovers, but so do most things.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:25 (five months ago) link

I just finished Watchmen last month. A lot good about it. A lot meh about it.

If only we could get the schitt's creek cast to do a send up of Terrace House I would be in love.

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:25 (five months ago) link

forks, don't you know you save the ersatz joke entry for the #1 spot

unless that isn't a joke and we're all currently in hell

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:26 (five months ago) link

maybe just for me since that would be highly inappropriate i guess. xpost

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:26 (five months ago) link

xp to me tho i am not an old-lunchian type for whom bad endings sour the rest of the show for me

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:26 (five months ago) link

we're all currently in hell and that is a joke.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:27 (five months ago) link

I am totally confused about "male lead" in the context of How to Get Away with Murder, because as I see it, there is a female lead, and the rest are supporting cast

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:27 (five months ago) link

Schitt's Creek should probably have its own thread. And it's one of the few shows i'd want to rewatch again since the characters are ones i'd miss when it's over.

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:27 (five months ago) link

I agree except for the thing where it's ending in like six weeks or whatever. :(

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:28 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/vsUDVLr.jpg
#7 (Tie) - Joe Pera Talks With You (Adult Swim) - 135 points, 14 votes

Joe Pera Talks With You

Joe Pera Talks With You on Adult Swim Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6py2vGxvU0

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:29 (five months ago) link

when my gf comes home, i've taken to saying "hullo" like joe pera

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:29 (five months ago) link

it's the dude with the extremely long neck right? How to get away...

Is Pimple Popper very popular? I liked watching it a lot on youtube. I assume most people are fascinated with that shit. I was watching that obesity autopsy video floating around last month while eating salt and vinegar wings.

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:29 (five months ago) link

As I mentioned after my bingewatch of the first season of Joe Pera, that show is something really special. Sui generis.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:30 (five months ago) link

I bailed on Mr. Robot after the second season and again after the third season, but I guess I'm in a decent position to see how it recovers.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:31 (five months ago) link

Joe Pera is the best but I didn't vote for it because S1 was 2018 and we in the UK don't seem to have permission to view S2 yet

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:31 (five months ago) link

amazing show

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:31 (five months ago) link

i don't even know what it is, and I am very much okay with that.

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:31 (five months ago) link

sigh it is joe Pera talks WITH you and that distinction from to you is extremely important!

Clay, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:32 (five months ago) link

still haven't seen season 2

TOO MUCH STUFF TO WATCH GAH

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:32 (five months ago) link

Yeah, never heard of it. Is S1still available in UK anywhere or will I have to torrent?

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:33 (five months ago) link

can't believe pimple popper beat Baby Yoda

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:33 (five months ago) link

As for Schitt's Creek, it is the show which all of my early-teenage tutees have been recommending I see, which has probably hardened me against it a little unfairly. Will probably check it out now

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:33 (five months ago) link

Joe Pera Talks to You is the show that your sweetest, most contemplative grand-relative would make. Now imagine your grand-relative is in his 30s.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:33 (five months ago) link

Sorry 'With'!

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:34 (five months ago) link

I watched one episode of Pimple Poppper and it was utterly thrilling, I probably could've voted for it just on principle.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:34 (five months ago) link

doc pimp pop really placed this high?

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:35 (five months ago) link

Joe Pera way too low. Shoulda been #1 by a mile

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:36 (five months ago) link

the Milwaukee episode of Joe Pera was so much fun b/c I've spent a lot of time in those exact locations. and I also come from a pretty small town so I kinda go through the same emotions

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:36 (five months ago) link

anyways joe pera was my number one and I almost love it too much to talk evenly about. the bean arch, you know. singing on the first day of school. a show about the smallest pleasures writ very large and the greatest tragedies writ just as they are in the sense that these things happen. I’m glad I live in a world that is shred with joe

Clay, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:37 (five months ago) link

shared but shred is also fine

Clay, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:38 (five months ago) link

BEAN ARCH

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:38 (five months ago) link

Joe Shreds

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:38 (five months ago) link

Schitt's Creek and Joe Pera are the only ones I voted for that I feel strongly inclined to evangelize in favor of. They're like 'best of decade'-level picks.

(Oh and The OA but there's no chance it'll show up at this point and everyone who isn't onboard already is just gonna point and laugh like they always do at beautiful things they don't understand.)

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:38 (five months ago) link

i love that Joe Pera and the show it tied with are both so very good, both so very funny and both so very different. I also like them about equally!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:39 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/qYDHAZi.jpg
#7 (Tie) - Succession (HBO) - 135 points, 14 votes

HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

Succession on HBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9TKHvvaMfE

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:39 (five months ago) link

'green apple giveaway'

I recall that particular phrase a lot, for some reason.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:40 (five months ago) link

my #2. this show is shockingly good. it has no right to be as insightful, scathing, and just darn watchable as it is.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:40 (five months ago) link

Yeah, Schitt's may be my favorite sitcom of all time at the moment. I should try Joe Pera. (OA is all sorts of bullshit)

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:41 (five months ago) link

Succession s1 was decent but s2 leveled up bigtime

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:41 (five months ago) link

the way the other characters interact with Joe (particularly the Melskys) really makes the show IMO - you expect him to get made fun of a lot but everyone just sort of takes him for what he is. which is pretty much how it goes in real life. it takes a lot of restraint to make a show this funny without constantly making him the butt of the joke.

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:41 (five months ago) link

re: what we do in the shadows

the lead actors are all hilarious, especially matt berry, and funny in a way that's distinct from the original trio.

as in every show matt berry is involved in matt berry plays matt berry, i'm not a huge fan of his but he fits pretty well in here. it's kind of funny that he's the only one who doesn't bother doing a wampire accent.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:43 (five months ago) link

just started schitts creek, very much enjoying it

nxd, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:43 (five months ago) link

as in every show matt berry is involved in matt berry plays matt berry, i'm not a huge fan of his but he fits pretty well in here. it's kind of funny that he's the only one who doesn't bother doing a wampire accent.

― Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, February 14, 2020 2:43 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

it helps that they give him all the best lines.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:45 (five months ago) link

Joe Pera is the kind of heartfelt and strange series protagonist you almost never see. Almost like Dale Cooper.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:46 (five months ago) link

Also Conner O'Malley as the doofus neighbor is hilarious.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:47 (five months ago) link

anyways joe pera was my number one and I almost love it too much to talk evenly about. the bean arch, you know. singing on the first day of school. a show about the smallest pleasures writ very large and the greatest tragedies writ just as they are in the sense that these things happen. I’m glad I live in a world that is shred with joe

― Clay, Friday, February 14, 2020 bookmarkflaglink

good post otm. i almost dont want to talk about this show cos its too special to me and i dont want to be overly sappy about it. i watch every new episode multiple times in a row at this point. frogbs otm about it too.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:50 (five months ago) link

Everything that's placed so far has been either something I've seen and voted for, or haven't seen. Of the shows I haven't seen, everything is either, "Fuck, I've been meaning to watch this!" or "I am so not gonna watch this." Nothing in between.

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:50 (five months ago) link

I don't know where else you'd put it but I feel like Joe Pera airing on Adult Swim might really give people the wrong impression. Like it's almost as sincere and guileless a show as I've ever seen.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:50 (five months ago) link

yah i dont frame it as a comedy at all anymore when trying to convince someone else to watch it

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:51 (five months ago) link

even tho obv it is very very funny

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:51 (five months ago) link

i like rewatching the entirety of joe pera about once every four months; don't think i've done that with a show since eric andre.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:52 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/cD3PqAz.jpg
#6 - On Cinema at the Cinema (Adult Swim) - 145 points, 14 votes

On Cinema at the Cinema on ilxor.com

On Cinema at the Cinema on Adult Swim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkftGABKsnU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:52 (five months ago) link

joe's friend gene is the best

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:52 (five months ago) link

also I love how wide a latitude you have to give the show. there's an entire episode of him going through his grocery store routine and all of the sudden you get Sue complaining about Mike eating rotisserie chickens in the shower because of some Joe Rogan diet. or the one episode where he randomly brings up Dragonball Z

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:52 (five months ago) link

ive never even heard of on cinema

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:53 (five months ago) link

i like rewatching the entirety of joe pera about once every four months; don't think i've done that with a show since eric andre.

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, February 14, 2020 1:52 PM (thirty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol, I was halfway through your sentence and thought, 'yeah, like I do with Eric Andre'.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:53 (five months ago) link

on cinema: the greatest long-form comedy series of all time

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:53 (five months ago) link

i really love joe pera. if corporate is who i am then joe pera is who i aspire to be. so strange and funny and heartfelt.

i also really love succession. great acting but more importantly probably the funniest show on tv.

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:54 (five months ago) link

is that the dude from Faxed Head?

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:54 (five months ago) link

On Cinema is the definitive parody of Trumpian politics thus far and also maybe of toxic nerd culture.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:55 (five months ago) link

TOO LOW

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:56 (five months ago) link

yeah I mention it over and over in the thread but I feel like it's the one series that really captures those things in a way that's actually funny.

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:57 (five months ago) link

On Cinema is perfect in every way, but season 11 isn’t the most representative of the heights it can reach

tangenttangent, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:57 (five months ago) link

still waiting for the newest Oscar Special to find its way onto Youtube; please YSI etc etc

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:58 (five months ago) link

I really can't think of anyone in America has nailed the Trump mindset - the ugly and bizarre grievances and shameless behavior - like Tim Heidecker with his character here. So many other comedians seem to be hopelessly fumbling or doing surface-level stuff.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:59 (five months ago) link

more evidence old lunch and i am the same person

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:59 (five months ago) link

On Cinema is perfect in every way, but season 11 isn’t the most representative of the heights it can reach

― tangenttangent, Friday, February 14, 2020 12:57 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i sort of agree but "on cinema on defense" and "mt btl 3.0" were series highpoints

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:00 (five months ago) link

"the dude from Faxed Head" did a book signing in London and it was epic and we were there and now we have the On Cinema book

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:00 (five months ago) link

I'm stoked for Beef House

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:00 (five months ago) link

have you heard that band though, imago? you might like it.

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:01 (five months ago) link

I honestly don’t know why Empty Bottle in any of its incarnations hasn’t made it to an EOY poll yet.

tangenttangent, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:01 (five months ago) link

it's a Chicago thing idk

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:01 (five months ago) link

The ending of this year's Oscar special is stunning.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:01 (five months ago) link

the best bit about Tim's character is that it pre-dates Trump's political run; it tunes into something much more widespread than merely Trump, in the same way that Gregg's character tunes into something brilliantly specific that any self-respecting nerd will identify

oh shit yeah Empty Bottle 3.0 why didn't we vote for it :(((

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:02 (five months ago) link

no oscar special spoilers or ban

Will check out Faxed Head of course, they're Patton-aligned kinda?

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:02 (five months ago) link

yeah the end of "mt btl 3.0" where LaRue is just pointing his gun into crowds is like the funniest thing I've ever seen

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:02 (five months ago) link

Thoughts on the top five?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:03 (five months ago) link

btw I was seriously on edge during the season finale because I really thought Tim was about to blow Toni's head off

the reveal that there actually was a bullet in the chamber was so good

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:03 (five months ago) link

btw terri parks is a total genius and a really welcome addition to the on cinema family

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:05 (five months ago) link

Will check out Faxed Head of course, they're Patton-aligned kinda?

Faxed Head included: Gregg T, Trey from Mr. Bungle, etc., and the main dude from Caroliner (though he got kicked out of the band at one point, and when we did the Faxed Head reunion show in 2013, that dude was kinda-sorta banned from the show on request from the other Faxed Heads).

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:05 (five months ago) link

the best bit about Tim's character is that it pre-dates Trump's political run; it tunes into something much more widespread than merely Trump, in the same way that Gregg's character tunes into something brilliantly specific that any self-respecting nerd will identify

it's a weirdly prescient show; the Electric Sun stuff predated the Fyre Festival docs and the vaping death storylines was years before that actually happened. not to mention that recent Elon Musk EDM single which is pretty much exactly DKR

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:06 (five months ago) link

On Cinema is...very hard to recommend. Because it's less a show than it is an experience, something you have to immerse yourself in completely to fully appreciate. As noted in the dedicated thread, I (like my T&E-loving friends who, as far as I know, still haven't taken the plunge) for the longest time was a little skeptical and kinda thought this was some ephemeral, mildly-amusing Heidecker side project that I could safely skip. But then I finally jumped into the heart of darkness with both feet last year and boy oh boy am I ever glad that I did.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:06 (five months ago) link

basically what I'm saying is I fully expect Roger Stone to die of carbon monoxide poisoning in the next few years

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:06 (five months ago) link

russian doll
barry
fleabag
chernobyl
tim robinson

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:06 (five months ago) link

ha i had no idea what that show was, but now I wanna see it.

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:07 (five months ago) link

the joker strikes again!

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:09 (five months ago) link

I’ve never been a huge Tim & Eric fan but love On Cinema.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:10 (five months ago) link

Haven't seen this year's On Cinema Oscar special yet, but the denouement of the last several have been spectacular, and last year's was possibly the most harrowing and unnerving thing I've seen in a while. Particularly for something that was also hilarious (see: Tim's all-time performance of 'Bohemian Rhapsody').

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:10 (five months ago) link

last year's was possibly the most harrowing and unnerving thing I've seen in a while

ol, they outdid themselves (again) this year

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:11 (five months ago) link

thought this season was a step back in a lot of ways but it's still very watchable.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:11 (five months ago) link

I'm pissed at Fincher for pulling the plug on Mindhunter.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:12 (five months ago) link

clear the decks for the basic crowdpleasers :P

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:12 (five months ago) link

mindhunter s2 was WAY better than s1 imho

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:13 (five months ago) link

btw if you aren't willing to jump into On Cinema you should at least check out Decker, I'm also impressed with how well Tim's able to capture that sort of ineptness without overtly doing that tired sort of "so bad it's good" humor we see everywhere now

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:13 (five months ago) link

Let's put it this way: if I wasn't relatively certain that the performer Tim Heidecker was a relatively sane and stable and functional person, the character of Tim Heidecker would make me very concerned for the safety and well-being of everyone in his orbit.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:14 (five months ago) link

idk i liked the scenes with the inmates more and didnt really care about Holts kids storyline that much.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:14 (five months ago) link

you all better have voted for itysl

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:15 (five months ago) link

Decker was my intro to On Cinema (for those who don't know it's an incompetent action spin-off series created by Tim's character). But the Mr America movie is on Hulu now and might be a good capsule summary.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:15 (five months ago) link

btw if you aren't willing to jump into On Cinema you should at least check out Decker, I'm also impressed with how well Tim's able to capture that sort of ineptness without overtly doing that tired sort of "so bad it's good" humor we see everywhere now

― frogbs, Friday, February 14, 2020 1:13 PM (fourteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

tim's deliberately shitty acting was on display for the last bit they did in the tim & eric live show they're touring right now, and god, i love it so much. the way he fucks up a line and then fucks it up way more by trying to correct himself... exquisite

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:15 (five months ago) link

ive read all your posts about on cinema and watched some of that youtube link posted above but i still have no clue what's going on. may need to start from scratch on it.

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:16 (five months ago) link

idk i liked the scenes with the inmates more and didnt really care about Holts kids storyline that much.

I liked that Holt's day-job provided absolutely no assistance with the difficulties presented in his home life, a nice indication of just how impotent they are overall

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:17 (five months ago) link

I had a harder time w. the doc's plot

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:17 (five months ago) link

Heidecker has said something to the effect that he has a tendency to trip over lines as a matter of course and that Decker is just a matter of really leaning hard into that tendency.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:18 (five months ago) link

ive read all your posts about on cinema and watched some of that youtube link posted above but i still have no clue what's going on. may need to start from scratch on it.

― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, February 14, 2020 1:16 PM (thirty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

start from the first season! (skip the podcast, and also you can skip most of the outside interviews, only tim and gregg's appearances on the best show are really worth it) it's kind of boring! but just keep plowing through! do not miss out on the oscar specials, even though they are 3-4 hours long. when you get to the trial it's the greatest payoff. this is the playlist i used http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRT5PdjVF-ipL5SPXbmZXzfBchXVR8JTo

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:19 (five months ago) link

brad otm

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:19 (five months ago) link

I also appreciate that Tim's Twitter feed is like half him and half his character, and it's likely confusing if you don't know what's going on.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:20 (five months ago) link

in some interview he mentioned that when filming Decker they deliberately put the cue cards very far away

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:20 (five months ago) link

I voted for Mindhunter. It's very good. Which is kinda how I feel about pretty much everything Fincher. I watch it and I think, 'that was very good' and that's about it. I don't really think of it as a flaw but there isn't much about his work that stimulates discussion for me.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:21 (five months ago) link

of course as good as he is I still think Special Agent Kington, the "Master of Codes" is one of the funniest things ever, especially considering exactly how that character came to be

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:22 (five months ago) link

Yes, I wish I'd known where the Master of Codes came from before starting Decker.

It's really the most impenetrable thing, even more than Best Show, but so hilariously worth it.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:24 (five months ago) link

It took me waaaaaaaay too long to notice TurKington was aping the HeiDecker naming convention. Waaaaaaaaaay too long.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:24 (five months ago) link

Haven't watched S2 of Mindhunter yet so didn't vote for it. S1 was pretty good

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:25 (five months ago) link

I watched the first series of Decker without even knowing what On Cinema was so seeing the ep where Tim tricks Gregg into appearing on the show was a huge "holy shit" moment for me

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:25 (five months ago) link

as much as the first episode of on cinema doesn't really imply how truly cracked it gets, it contains one of my favorite jokes in the series, gregg turkington saying john goodman should be renamed john greatman because of his performance in flight

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:26 (five months ago) link

what is our real #9 btw

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:26 (five months ago) link

Unless my Buzzfeed Youtubes amazingly caught fire with the ILX hivemind, I think my only show to make the top 10 is Russian Doll.

Mindhunter is to me MOR prestige, which tbf I count basically everything besides The Wire.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:27 (five months ago) link

xp shhhhh lj, we'll get there.

for the moment, if i can get you nerds' attention with some SERIOUS DRAMA

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:28 (five months ago) link

still think the funniest line is "If you'd seen the movie, you'd know that it's an animated film about a squirrel."

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:28 (five months ago) link

ive read all your posts about on cinema and watched some of that youtube link posted above but i still have no clue what's going on. may need to start from scratch on it.

― Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, February 14, 2020 1:16 PM (thirty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

start from the first season! (skip the podcast, and also you can skip most of the outside interviews, only tim and gregg's appearances on the best show are really worth it) it's kind of boring! but just keep plowing through! do not miss out on the oscar specials, even though they are 3-4 hours long. when you get to the trial it's the greatest payoff. this is the playlist i used http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRT5PdjVF-ipL5SPXbmZXzfBchXVR8JTo

― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, February 14, 2020 bookmarkflaglink

ty brad

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:29 (five months ago) link

xpost Haaaa, I was just thinking about the Nut Job review, which I think features Tim's first ever freak-out.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:30 (five months ago) link

We're all very familiar with Will Smith and what he's capable of. I think this is his best performance if not the best performance of the year by anyone. You've had Bicentennial Man, now you have Gemini Man and may it's flag wave forever. This is great movie and I do believe there will be a Gemini Man 2 because this is the start of a great franchise.

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:31 (five months ago) link

that post being right underneath the images of Chernobyl is ilx fate at its finest

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:31 (five months ago) link

Chernobyl was gripping but the accents were weird and the first half was much stronger than the second

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:35 (five months ago) link

the first truly, truly great On Cinema moment is the Parque Jurasico popcorn classic in S2E9 imo (although there was plenty of brilliant stuff before it)

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:36 (five months ago) link

The Trial may be the greatest piece of the On Cinema canon.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:37 (five months ago) link

well yeah

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:38 (five months ago) link

lol I liked the scene-for-scene comparison at the end of that episode where they showed Gemini Man looked exactly like an episode of Decker.

The Trial screened theatrically at BAM in New York late last year.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:38 (five months ago) link

voted for Mindhunter, also i don't necessarily think Fincher is pulling the plug permanently especially considering the show would likely have some leaps forward in time if we're following the BTK story, and i imagine with his clout and apparent loyalty to the show he's just taking some time off to work on other things and allow the other actors to work as well.

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:39 (five months ago) link

xp No wait it was Museum of the Moving Image

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:39 (five months ago) link

"What do you think your daughter would say if she were with us today?"

"Objection! Uh....speculation"

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:39 (five months ago) link

i wanted to go to that but couldn't imagine spending 4.5 hours in a theater xp

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:40 (five months ago) link

i think S1 of Mindhunter reached some highs that S2 fell just shy of in several ways but it was still great.

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:40 (five months ago) link

That's a good point about the time jumps, seeing the actors released from their contracts is just kind of an ominous headline.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:41 (five months ago) link

save us (again) forks

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:46 (five months ago) link

did anyone watch chernobyl? are all the voters out to lunch?

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:46 (five months ago) link

dying of cancer iirc

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:48 (five months ago) link

great show, I give it five bags of popcorn and maybe throw in a little Geiger counter because this show is so hot, it's practically radioactive

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:48 (five months ago) link

it had everything: action, drama, comedy, suspense and dancing

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:49 (five months ago) link

Bonus points for going full JFK in the last ep.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:51 (five months ago) link

are we talking about the comedy show or Chernobyl?

sarahell, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:52 (five months ago) link

yes

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:52 (five months ago) link

another jean claude van damme movie with golf lungrend

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 20:55 (five months ago) link

speaking of this has got to be the peak of the OC opening segments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgPsYWyZCgc

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 20:56 (five months ago) link

whoops, i appear to have gotten #9 wrong.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:05 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/pXGGHMH.jpg
#9 - I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson (Netflix) - 130 points, 13 votes

i think you should leave with tim robinson

I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson on Netflix Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xS9Y_mjTjc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:05 (five months ago) link

Top three on the way

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:05 (five months ago) link

too low

my #1

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:06 (five months ago) link

lol, A+ fakeout

did anyone watch chernobyl? are all the voters out to lunch?

― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:46 AM (eighteen minutes ago)

fuck this union-busting creep btw

On Cinema's prescience crosses over to Decker in that the alternating squinting / open-pursed lips acting range is exactly exactly Trump's childlike notion of performative toughness

definitely disagree with Mr America as a capsule summary of On Cinema for newbie btw, though it probably works fine as a tiny weird stand-alone


I lost interest in Killing Eve pretty early on in s1 and no one seemed to think s2 was an improvement

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Saturday, February 15, 2020 2:52 AM (four hours ago)

S2 of Killing Eve was pretty poor. Surprised to see it so high

― groovypanda, Saturday, February 15, 2020 3:09 AM (three hours ago)

groovypanda otm

How does this compare to the film (which I liked)

― imago, Saturday, February 15, 2020 6:14 AM (forty minutes ago)

it's astounding how well it compares to the film. it's not quite as great, but keeps the tone perfectly, doesn't exhaust the premises, invents loads of great new wrinkles to the set-up and even to modern vampirism, and even manages to preserve a touch of the charming parochialism of the original despite being set in NYC.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:07 (five months ago) link

ulysses there, linking the only really great sketch from that tim robinson thing :P

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:08 (five months ago) link

also, good to know re: Shadows!

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:09 (five months ago) link

fuck this union-busting creep btw

settle down, bud

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:09 (five months ago) link

feels like a good time to mention that Tim Heidecker's appearance on this show is incredible

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:10 (five months ago) link

The way I Think You Should Leave was meme'd told me that Mr. Show would have been huge if social media had been around in the 90s. Also, too low.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:11 (five months ago) link

maybe the Instagram sketch is so great it justifies the show's position here

I didn't really get much else as hard (with a few exceptions) - too much mudpie, too much pandering to basic crudeness idk. maybe it'll grow on me if i finish the season

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:11 (five months ago) link

The way I Think You Should Leave was meme'd told me that Mr. Show would have been huge if social media had been around in the 90s.

totally though I think this show was designed with that in mind, there's a pretty conscious overlap between it and a lot of weird twitter stuff

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:12 (five months ago) link

I watched it all. It was fine. Not a fan. People I like a lot love it.

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:12 (five months ago) link

ulysses there, linking the only really great sketch from that tim robinson thing :P

― imago, Friday, February 14, 2020 4:08 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://media.giphy.com/media/UQIASPdRVXUjeOP6XK/giphy.gif

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:14 (five months ago) link

its definitely hit and miss but one advantage of the show is that the sketches actually end pretty quickly

on the thread someone posted the "Roundball Rock" sketch from SNL which I think demonstrates exactly what's wrong the show...the premise of the sketch is hilarious but once its revealed there's nothing left to do and yet they make it go on for 7 minutes anyway. ITYSL doesn't have that problem

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:14 (five months ago) link

like all sketch shows it has peaks and valleys but the peaks (steering wheel, the worms are their money, turbo time, etc) stuck in my head since the first viewing

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:15 (five months ago) link

I didn't really get much else as hard (with a few exceptions) - too much mudpie, too much pandering to basic crudeness idk. maybe it'll grow on me if i finish the season

― imago, Friday, February 14, 2020 2:11 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the episodes are 15 minutes long ffs

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:15 (five months ago) link

also the show is fucking brilliant and eminently rewatchable

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:16 (five months ago) link

the instagram sketch is great but i think... several are better. especially "fully-loaded nachos"

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:17 (five months ago) link

instagram sketch is def very good, but also probably the most conventional thing in the series.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:18 (five months ago) link

the hot dog suit one

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:20 (five months ago) link

laser spine specialists

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:20 (five months ago) link

your family hates you! only i love you!

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:21 (five months ago) link

the Fred Willard sketch may be my favorite. next to the game show with "The Chunky"

frogbs, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:22 (five months ago) link

i mean, even the "conventional" instagram sketch features the line "Slurping down fish piss with these two wet chodes"

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:23 (five months ago) link

the Fred Willard sketch may be my favorite. next to the game show with "The Chunky"

― frogbs, Friday, February 14, 2020 2:22 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

this one's somber, so it's all right to cry. it's called "he layeth on high," and it's about a big baby duck who gets his head caught in a stewed tomato

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:23 (five months ago) link

my condolences!

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:25 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uy3e_1t4bs

no matter who you are, you've met howie

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:25 (five months ago) link

oh lol never mind the video in that clip freezes :(

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:26 (five months ago) link

i guess you'll never know about jazz legends like roy donk and tiny boop squig shorterly

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:28 (five months ago) link

ey, my gazpacho soup is heah

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:30 (five months ago) link

the will forte airplane sketch is another favorite, but i'm a sucker for will forte

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:31 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Fg4jzqF.jpg
#3 - Barry (HBO) - 160 points, 17 votes

Bill Hader in HBO's Barry

Barry on HBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir1_hjemxNA

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:36 (five months ago) link

good show

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:36 (five months ago) link

I appreciated that the ronny/lily episode of Barry showed up the massively hyped GoT episode that aired directly before it.

Chris L, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:38 (five months ago) link

lol yes, that was an excellent moment in programming synergy

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:41 (five months ago) link

I Think You Should Leave was the funniest show of the year, the only one that made me laugh in truly unexpected ways.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:44 (five months ago) link

gonna wrap this up before 5. Any thoughts on your top two and margin of victory?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:45 (five months ago) link

watched s1 of barry, thought it was ok but the HBO antihero bullshit was starting to make me feel queasy, so i didn't watch s2

na (NA), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:46 (five months ago) link

LetterKenny #1 lets gooooo

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:47 (five months ago) link

Russian Doll & Fleabag surely

groovypanda, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:47 (five months ago) link

I'm guessing Watchmen came this low because it's on HBO and so lots of folks are actually priced out of watching it. I waited until I was at my parents house and then binged it in a week. Somehow missed the nom or I would have put it over "Kingdom." The idea of "prestige TV drama" is so highly overrated -- I feel like these shows are always things I experience more as "this is objectively well-made and thus merits my attention" while Watchmen I really wanted to, well, watch, which I guess answers that question.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:47 (five months ago) link

Joe Pera robbed of its rightful #1 spot.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:47 (five months ago) link

yup

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:48 (five months ago) link

Oh then again Barry is on HBO too! (Which is why I've never seen it except on the plane. But to be honest I experience it as exactly the kind of show I refer to above; everybody in it acts really well, the lines are well-written, I just -- find it easy to walk away from.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:48 (five months ago) link

Shows I have never seen and am truly excited to watch based on descriptions here, so far: Lodge 49, Joe Pera

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:49 (five months ago) link

Excited for you, eephus!

tangenttangent, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:51 (five months ago) link

yeah excited about those two, too. I just tried On Cinema but noped out pretty quickly.

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:53 (five months ago) link

really you have to discover On Cinema via a YouTube rabbithole

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:57 (five months ago) link

Like Brad said, it's kind of boring, but sticking with it pays off so well on so many occasions. It is a big commitment though.

tangenttangent, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:57 (five months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/dchgv4a.jpg
#2 - Fleabag (Amazon) - 185 points, 19 votes

Fleabag

Fleabag on Amazon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX2ViKQFL_k

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:57 (five months ago) link

1 - Russian Doll (Netflix) - 260 points, 25 votes
2 - Fleabag (Amazon) - 185 points, 19 votes
3 - Barry (HBO) - 160 points, 17 votes
4 - Chernobyl (HBO) - 153 points, 16 votes
5 - Mindhunter (Netflix) - 145 points, 15 votes
6 - On Cinema at the Cinema (Adult Swim) - 145 points, 14 votes
7 (Tie) - Succession (HBO) - 135 points, 14 votes
7 (Tie) - Joe Pera Talks With You (Adult Swim) - 135 points, 14 votes
9 - I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson (Netflix) - 130 points, 13 votes
10 - What We Do in Shadows (FX) - 123 points, 13 votes
11 - Watchmen (HBO) - 120 points, 13 votes
12 - Schitt's Creek (Pop US) - 101 points, 11 votes
13 - Stranger Things (Netflix) - 100 points, 10 votes
14 - BoJack Horseman (Netflix) - 90 points, 10 votes
15 - Lodge 49 (AMC) - 90 points, 9 votes
16 (Tie) - Glow (Netflix) - 85 points, 11 votes
16 (Tie) - The Mandalorian (Disney +) - 85 points, 11 votes
18 - Killing Eve (BBC America/BBC) - 80 points, 8 votes
19 - Terrace House: Tokyo 2019-2020 (Netflix) - 70 points, 6 votes
20 – The Righteous Gemstones (HBO) - 68 points, 9 votes
21 - When They See Us (Netflix) - 65 points, 7 votes
22 - Unbelievable (Netflix) - 65 points, 6 votes
23 - Veep (HBO) - 63 points, 10 votes
24 - Last Week Tonight (HBO) - 60 points, 8 votes
25 - Great British Bake Off (Channel 4, Netflix) - 60 points, 7 votes
26 (Tie) - Sex Education (Netflix) - 60 points, 6 votes
26 (Tie) - True Detective (HBO) - 60 points, 6 votes
26 (Tie) - Years and Years (BBC, HBO) - 60 points, 6 votes
29 - Jeopardy (ABC) - 58 points, 7 votes
30 - Catastrophe (Amazon) - 55 points, 7 votes
31 - Steven Universe (Cartoon Network) - 50 points, 5 votes
32 (Tie) - ContraPoints (YouTube) - 45 points, 6 votes
32 (Tie) - Dark (Netflix) - 45 points, 6 votes
32 (Tie) - Derry Girls (Channel 4, Netflix) - 45 points, 6 votes
32 (Tie) - High Maintenance (HBO) - 45 points, 6 votes
36 - Broad City (Comedy Central) - 45 points, 5 votes
37 (Tie) - Corporate (Comedy Central) - 41 points, 6 votes
37 (Tie) - Pen15 (Hulu) - 41 points, 6 votes
39 - The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (Amazon) - 40 points, 6 votes
40 (Tie) - Desus and Mero (Showtime) - 40 points, 5 votes
40 (Tie) - Gentleman Jack (BBC, HBO) - 40 points, 5 votes
40 (Tie) - The Expanse (Amazon) - 40 points, 5 votes
43 - It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FXX) - 40 points, 4 votes
44 - Silicon Valley (HBO) - 38 points, 5 votes
45 - The Good Place (NBC) - 35 points, 5 votes
46 (Tie) - Kingdom (Netflix) - 33 points, 4 votes
46 (Tie) - Stath Lets Flats (Channel 4) - 33 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - Game of Thrones (HBO) - 30 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - Pose (FX) - 30 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - The Dragon Prince (Netflix) - 30 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - Tuca and Bertie (Netflix) - 30 points, 4 votes
48 (Tie) - Veronica Mars (Hulu) - 30 points, 4 votes
53 (Tie) - 63 Up (ITV, UK) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Bosch (Amazon) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Euphoria (HBO) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Mortimer & Whitehouse: Gone Fishing (BBC) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Queer Eye (Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - Repair Shop (BBC, Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (Netflix) - 30 points, 3 votes
53 (Tie) - This Time with Alan Partridge (BBC) - 30 points, 3 votes
61 - SB Nation's Chart Party (YouTube) - 28 points, 5 votes
62 (Tie) - Documentary Now! (IFC, stream on Netflix) - 28 points, 4 votes
62 (Tie) - Ramy (Hulu) - 28 points, 4 votes
64 (Tie) - Brockmire (IFC, stream on Hulu) - 25 points, 4 votes
64 (Tie) - His Dark Materials (HBO) - 25 points, 4 votes
66 (Tie) - Big Mouth (Netflix) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Dear White People (Netflix) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Rick and Morty (Adult Swim, stream on Hulu) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - The Boys (Amazon) - 25 points, 3 votes
66 (Tie) - Truthpoint (Adult Swim, Stream on YouTube) - 25 points, 3 votes
71 - Infinity Train (Cartoon Network, stream on web) - 25 points, 2 votes
72 - The Witcher (Netflix) - 20 points, 4 votes
73 - Jessica Jones (Netflix) - 20 points, 3 votes
74 (Tie) - GeoWizard's Mission Across Wales (YouTube) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Ainori Love Wagon: Asian Journey (Netflix) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Nailed It! (Netflix US) - 20 points, 2 votes
74 (Tie) - Too Old To Die Young (Amazon) - 20 points, 2 votes
79 (Tie) - The OA (Netflix) – 18 points, 3 votes
79 (Tie) - Undone (Amazon) – 18 points, 3 votes
81 (tie) - Better Things (FX) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - Black Spot (Netflix) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - Legion (FX) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - Mum (BBC2) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - Rhythm & Flow (Netflix) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - The Crown (Netflix) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - Yorkshire Walks (BBC) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - Kiwami Japan (YouTube) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - Tantacrul on Music (YouTube) – 15 points, 2 votes
81 (tie) - VideoGameDunkey (YouTube) – 15 points, 2 votes
91 - Star vs the Forces of Evil (Hulu) – 15 points, 1 vote
92 (tie) - A Series of Unfortunate Events (Netflix) - 13 points, 2 votes
92 (tie) - LetterKenny (Hulu) - 13 points, 2 votes
92 (tie) - Mr. In-Between (FX) - 13 points, 2 votes
92 (tie) - The Other Two (Comedy Central) - 13 points, 2 votes
92 (tie) - I Did a Thing (YouTube) - 13 points, 2 votes
97 (tie) - Blown Away (Netflix) – 10 points, 2 votes
97 (tie) - Jett (Cinemax) - 10 points, 2 votes

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:58 (five months ago) link

Thanks much to Moka for the killer imagery! Happy viewing!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 February 2020 21:58 (five months ago) link

I was shuffling through the link brad provided upthread. this may be the Kyle Mooney divide where it's absolutely not my thing. xpost

oh Russian Doll small upset.

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:58 (five months ago) link

although i gave RD and Fleabag the same amount of points (with Terrace House and Schitts I think).

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 21:59 (five months ago) link

Yeah, I don't think I've said it so far in this poll but Moka's images are insane.

Thanks so much ulysses for running! This was extremely entertaining.

tangenttangent, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:00 (five months ago) link

Thanks to forks (as long as he changes the points system next time lol) and Moka!

Top two a combination of probably not for me and definitely not for me, but the masses have spoken

imago, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:00 (five months ago) link

There are literally hundreds of episodes of the various series and films and specials and projects that make up the On Cinema At The Cinema universe - one definitely can't get a feel for it by watching a few minutes of a few episodes out of order. (it's also definitely not going to be plenty of people's thing.)

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:04 (five months ago) link

big ups to forks and Moka

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:04 (five months ago) link

yay for russian doll! also fleabag!

good shows!

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:06 (five months ago) link

What Russian Doll and Watchmen have in common is that you watch 2/3 of it and love it, partly because of the ever-heightening madness of the setup, and you say to yourself "there's no way they can bring this to a satisfying conclusion" and in both cases the show completely comes through.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:06 (five months ago) link

there's a particular intensity to some of the family scenes w/Fleabag that is pretty unexpected but really great, and the jokes are generally all very good. her relationship w/her sister on the show could have been very simplistic but it's not, it's very complicated and moving and devastating. Olivia Colman turning her charm into this narcissistic low-level sociopathy is something to watch too.

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:10 (five months ago) link

I know this is tired advice, but if yer starting on L49, give it 2-3 eps to develop. It's super odd but it grows steadily on you.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:12 (five months ago) link

the good trick the show manages it making Fleabag's behavior understandable from all perspectives, in that where it comes from is a place of pain and guilt and tragedy and we sympathize deeply, while making it obvious why people are repelled by her actions.

omar little, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:13 (five months ago) link

I can never get over how beautifully structured Fleabag s2 is

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:14 (five months ago) link

Thanks for running the poll forks and moka for the images. plenty to check out here

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:21 (five months ago) link

I wish I'd said so from the start but Russian Doll was precisely what I expected to win the day, from the time forks first proposed the poll. Not my personal #1 but very close.

I've only seen maybe an episode or two so far but I Think You Should Leave is the first sketch show to make me feel old inasmuch as I could kinda see why people think it's great but felt like its greatness kinda went over my head. Or something. Some very funny moments but it felt like it was made more for the whippersnappers overall.

Thank u forks and moka! Great and fun poll, would rewatch.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:24 (five months ago) link

Props to the poll runners! This was fun.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:32 (five months ago) link

yes, muchas gracias to the poll-runners.

moka, props as always for the images, and forks, i'll never forgive you for making me think for half a second that itysl wouldn't make it.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 22:36 (five months ago) link

I am bemused by the Broadcast reference re Lodge 49 but maybe it manifests more in S2

nashwan, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:46 (five months ago) link

there is one absolutely incredible broadcast drop in season 2, but even the non-broadcast songs throughout have a similar sensibility

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 February 2020 23:01 (five months ago) link

It really is amazing how dull that trailer makes the presumably entertaining Barry look.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 February 2020 23:03 (five months ago) link

Broadcast opens and closes Lodge 49 Season 1 iirc (last song in both the premiere and in the finale?)

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 23:06 (five months ago) link

but yeah a *lot* of the music (much of it unfamiliar to me) is clearly in "Trish Keenan mixtape" territory

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 23:07 (five months ago) link

hm wait no the last song in season 1 is that Nuggets deep cut... does Broadcast open season 2? maybe that's what I'm thinking of

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 23:08 (five months ago) link

Really liked s1 of Barry, champing at the bit to see s2 given the good things I've heard but the end of the first got too dark for my gf so that can keeps getting kicked down the road, unfortch.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2020 23:42 (five months ago) link

I watched Barry after hanging up on season two of Handmaid's and only making it through 2 episodes of Big Little Lies. It was such a relief to watch something so much better.

Yerac, Friday, 14 February 2020 23:47 (five months ago) link

Maaaan, just now noticed that The OA fell just shy of showing up in the top 77. What a rip. Gotta do the movements and transport myself to a better universe now.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 February 2020 00:53 (five months ago) link

Weird thing about The OA -- I would never claim that this is an objectively good show but all the same I enjoyed the second season, stupidity and all!

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Saturday, 15 February 2020 01:22 (five months ago) link

The thing is, I totally get why people neg on The OA. And in a different set of hands, it could easily be the laughable disaster the haters believe it to be. But it walks that quavering line with grace and just so totally owns the insanity of its premise that, yeah, I would definitely say it's an objectively good show. Definitely in my personal top five of the 2010s.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 February 2020 01:47 (five months ago) link

i watched the first season. It seemed very much like a show that people who love murakami and for whom english is a second language would like.

Yerac, Saturday, 15 February 2020 01:53 (five months ago) link

Great poll, thanks. I must have missed True Detective on the nominating list, else I would have voted for it--definite improvement from S2 to S3.

clemenza, Saturday, 15 February 2020 03:16 (five months ago) link

Thanks for the poll work. I won't ever watch 95% of these but will probably give some a shot

Nhex, Saturday, 15 February 2020 03:20 (five months ago) link

wow!!! thanks for running this forks! and sorry i missed the whole thing D: wtf is wrong with me

are we posting our ballots or?

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:52 (five months ago) link

feel free!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:02 (five months ago) link

The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (Netflix)
The Dragon Prince (Netflix)
The Expanse (Amazon)
Great British Baking Show (Netflix)
Russian Doll (Netflix)
Veronica Mars (Hulu)
Unbelievable (Netflix)
Animator vs. Cartoonist / Draw Off (Buzzfeed)
The Christmas Maze (Playstation Access)
Metal Gear Stupid: Snake Easter (Playstation Access)
Glow (Netflix)
The OA (Netflix)
Jessica Jones (Netflix)
Last Week Tonight (HBO)

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:26 (five months ago) link

bolded if it didn't make the top 77!

Pose (FX)
Fleabag (Amazon)
ContraPoint
PhilosophyTube
Silicon Valley (HBO)
Veep (HBO)
Queer Eye (Netflix)
High Maintenance (HBO)
Watchmen (HBO)
What We Do in Shadows (FX)
Chernobyl (HBO)
Barry (HBO)
I Think You Should Leave (Netflix)
Truthpoint (Adult Swim)
Succession (HBO)
Corporate (Comedy Central)
Upright (Fox Showcase, Australia)
Joe Pera Talks to You (Adult Swim)
Euphoria (HBO)
Righteous Gemstones (HBO)
Pen15 (Hulu)
LetterKenny (Hulu)
Schitt's Creek (Pop US)
Ramy (Hulu)
Shrill (Hulu)

tbh i prob shouldn't have even included shrill on here because there's in retrospect some stuff i like more than it? and the part i really loved was peter smith's cover of god only knows which was in season 2/2020, my bad. watch the end of S02E02 imo, best part of the entire run so far

letterkenny has lost some momentum since those first couple of seasons, but it's still a joy, and it's based on a town about 40 mins from the village where i grew up (they once referenced my village in an episode and i had to rewind/pinch myself to make sure i didn't mishear/dream it)

philosophytube and contrapoints are virtually a dead tie for me in "top tier youtube appointment viewing," as soon as they go up i make sure the s/o and i have time to sit down and watch. the 100 minute cancel culture one was tough but we did it in one shot. olly has been batting 1000 for the past year or so, it's insane. if you like natalie, watch olly, but if you're watching natalie you're probably already watching olly so to the rest of you WATCH BOTH!

upright was great fun and i suspect virtually nobody has watched it because it is tough to find! (thanks forks for helping me even see it). s/o is huge minchin fan so i knew it'd be an easy sell, but damn it really exceeded my expectations.

POSE TOO LOW! did nobody watch season 2 or am i just alone in thinking it may have been one of the best-acted shows ever?? am i crazy? if virtually the entire main cast isn't up for emmys this year i'm calling it, the fix is in. i haven't watched too much ryan murphy tv so maybe other voters have RM burnout, but not me!

queer eye also maybe too low? it is just so delightful. i wish there were volunteer bands of people who'd go to the sad ppl of the world and just compliment them for a week.

also too low: corporate. pitch black in the best way. some chris morris vibes.

things i maybe should've included on my list: russian doll

things i need to check out but havben't had time/interest yet: mindhunter, on cinema at the cinema (enjoyed bits but never got into the whole huge thing, it is at this point intimidating), lodge 49 (enjoyed first 3 eps but didn't keep up), killing eve, terrave house, when they see us, unbelievable, bake off, sex education, new veronica mars

things i didn't really care for relatively: strnager things (well s3 was fun. s2 i almost couldn't finish. s1 was of course a delight), mandalorian (one ep aaaaand the only thing i like about it is the backgrounds?), last week tonight (KAREN... KAREN!!!!... STOP! DON'T! STOP!!! ugh)

things i thgought were only a joke on hollywood handbook until today: bosch

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:39 (five months ago) link

01. Pen15 (Hulu)
02. Years & Years (BBC, HBO)
03. Broad City (Comedy Central)
04. Last Week Tonight (HBO)
05. Fleabag (Amazon)
06. Documentary Now! (IFC)
07. Joe Pera Talks to You (Adult Swim)
08. Barry (HBO)
09. Sex Education (Netflix)
10. Chernobyl (HBO)
11. Desus and Mero (Showtime)
12. When They See Us (Netflix)
13. Great British Baking Show (Netflix)
14. Shrill (Hulu)
15. Jeopardy (ABC)

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 February 2020 18:15 (five months ago) link

My actual ballot:

1. Mindhunter
2. Killing Eve
3. Russian Doll
4. Stranger Things

I should have put True Detective second, though. The truth is, I wanted to participate and gave votes to things I had mixed feelings about--Killing Eve's second season wasn't as good as the first, I wasn't as big on Russian Doll as most everyone else, and Stranger Things left off as a real mess. Mindhunter and True Detective were the only things I liked almost without reservation. As you might guess, I haven't seen more than 90% of what made the final list--haven't even heard of at least half.

clemenza, Saturday, 15 February 2020 18:17 (five months ago) link

My ballot:

1. 63 Up
2. Russian Doll
3. I Think You Should Leave
4. Kingdom

but somehow I missed that Watchmen was nommed and that would have been my actual #4 over Kingdom.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 February 2020 18:24 (five months ago) link

I think it would be funny if next time we did this we were allowed to pick 5 shows we hate to give -5 votes each.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 February 2020 18:25 (five months ago) link

I like that idea

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Saturday, 15 February 2020 19:10 (five months ago) link

i'd have to do research to figure out the most hateful shows -- like do I just look up horrible right wing people that have tv shows and just pick the 5 that seem to have the largest viewership?

sarahell, Saturday, 15 February 2020 19:36 (five months ago) link

yeah, i won't be doing that

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 15 February 2020 19:50 (five months ago) link

The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance (Netflix)
Russian Doll (Netflix)
Watchmen (HBO)
Fleabag (Amazon)
Barry (HBO)
BoJack Horseman (Netflix)
Tuca and Bertie (Netflix)
Rick and Morty (Adult Swim)
Last Week Tonight (HBO)
Undone (Amazon)

Better Things (FX)
Veep (HBO)
Back To Life (BBC, UK)
Lodge 49 (AMC)
The Mandalorian (Disney +)
Big Mouth (Netflix)
Dark (Netflix)
The Dragon Prince (Netflix)
The Expanse (Amazon)
Glow (Netflix)

Chernobyl (HBO)
Kingdom (Netflix)
The OA (Netflix)
A Series of Unfortunate Events (Netflix)
What We Do in Shadows (FX)

groovypanda, Saturday, 15 February 2020 20:18 (five months ago) link

Tim Rogers on Video Games
Succession (HBO)
I Think You Should Leave (Netflix)
Terrace House: Tokyo 2019-2020 (Netflix)
Great British Baking Show (Netflix)
Fleabag (Amazon)
Righteous Gemstones (HBO)
Chernobyl (HBO)
Barry (HBO)
Jeopardy (ABC)
High Maintenance (HBO)
Joe Pera Talks to You (Adult Swim)
On Cinema at the Cinema (Adult Swim)
Rhythm & Flow (Netflix)
Blown Away (Netflix)

disappointed no one else voted for tim rogers. admittedly it's a v niche thing, but he kinda verhoevens a shitty genre (nerd on youtube talking about video games or talking while playing video games) by having an impressive depth of knowledge about the industry thanks to his background and subtly connecting his personal life to the video game content in a way that builds into a scattered autobiographical body of work that can at times be hilarious and surprisingly moving. i'm fascinated his whole approach, but i can see that he may just come off as another annoying youtube guy, plus to get anything out of it you have to have a strong interest in the particular video games he's into and the time to wade into it.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 15 February 2020 21:57 (five months ago) link

i wanted to vote for schitt's creek and on cinema but couldn't in good conscience as i haven't watched the 2019 seasons yet

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 15 February 2020 21:58 (five months ago) link

I admittedly cheated by voting for Schitt's Creek before seeing the 2019 season but have seen it since voting and, if anything, love the show even more now. I refuse to feel guilty!

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 February 2020 22:14 (five months ago) link

xps I would have voted for Tim if I'd voted, but I've seen so little 2019 TV that I couldn't put together much of a ballot.

may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Saturday, 15 February 2020 23:10 (five months ago) link

As I said on my ballot email, I should have nominated and voted for "2019 MLB regular season" and "2019 MLB postseason." I pretty much watched movies, baseball and soccer. But I voted anyway --

Barry (HBO)
High Maintenance (HBO)
Russian Doll (Netflix)
63 Up (ITV, UK)
Jeopardy (ABC)
The Boys (Amazon)
The Mandalorian (Disney +)

If I had it to do over again, I'd drop Mandalorian -- it really wasn't that good. And I'd switch Russian Doll and High Maintenance.

Miami weisse (WmC), Sunday, 16 February 2020 00:08 (five months ago) link

I probably should have put Tom rogers and ryukahr on my ballot but I am prejudiced

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 16 February 2020 00:15 (five months ago) link

Hey all 14 shows I voted for showed up! guess I am pretty hivemindy. Though I did watch three episodes of Russian Doll when the thread was blowing up and really didn't care for it. I'm pretty sick of the Groundhog Day premise and I don't think I get Lyonne's shtick

Thanks for running the poll, poll runners!

Vinnie, Sunday, 16 February 2020 00:56 (five months ago) link

my ballot as submitted:
1-10
Steven Universe
Succession
Joe Pera Talks To You
Corporate
I Think You Should Leave
The Other Two
Schitt's Creek
Lodge 49
Killing Eve
Mindhunter

11-15
Derry Girls
Nailed It!
Great British Baking Show
Bosch
What We Do in the Shadows

if it was ranked, this would be the top tier:
Steven Universe
Succession
Joe Pera Talks To You
Corporate
I Think You Should Leave

and everything else would be below that, with the last few in the bottom tier

just realized The Other Two didn't make it. that's a funny show.

na (NA), Sunday, 16 February 2020 01:11 (five months ago) link

i didnt like/get into russian doll either, didnt like barry & didnt like s2 of fleabag o_o

my ballot

1. Succession
2. I think you should leave
3. Righteous Gemstones
4. Broad city
5. Desus & Mero
6. High Maintenance

johnny crunch, Sunday, 16 February 2020 01:15 (five months ago) link

xp forgot abt 'the other two' yea wouldve voted for that

johnny crunch, Sunday, 16 February 2020 01:16 (five months ago) link

Lodge 49 (AMC)  
Fleabag (Amazon)  
Mindhunter (Netflix)  
Succession (HBO) 
Too Old To Die Young (Amazon) 
Russian Doll (Netflix)  
Joe Pera Talks to You (Adult Swim)  
Corporate (Comedy Central)  
True Detective (HBO)  
On Cinema at the Cinema (Adult Swim)  
Righteous Gemstones (HBO)  
Veronica Mars (Hulu)
ContraPoints
Bon Appetit Channel  
I Think You Should Leave (Netflix)  
Jon Bois/SB Nation - Chart Party (2019 content incl. Saddest Punt, Bob Emergency)  
High Maintenance (HBO)  
Jett (Cinemax)  
Barry (HBO)  
Watchmen (HBO)

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Sunday, 16 February 2020 03:13 (five months ago) link

Meant to say, thanks forks and Moka for putting this together.

Miami weisse (WmC), Sunday, 16 February 2020 04:04 (five months ago) link

Will have to check out this Shadows thing then ty

― imago, Saturday, February 15, 2020 6:22 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Jamie Demitriou’s real and on screen sister Natasia is in What we do in the shadows as well and brilliant in both.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 16 February 2020 05:00 (five months ago) link

I did a bit of complaining about avoiding long rollouts and then completely missed the entire rollout of this :)

Delighted that Russian Doll won. One of the greatest TV experiences of my life.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 16 February 2020 14:53 (five months ago) link

Can't quite get my head around the idea there'll be another season. Felt the same way about the OA, and while this season of OA was *so* insane and nonsensical that I didn't feel moved to vote for it in this poll, I was all the same glad it existed and glad I watched it.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:18 (five months ago) link

Genuinely curious to know if the detractors would be more or less put off by The OA based on how the season/series ended.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:24 (five months ago) link

Too Old To Die Young
Barry
Schitt's Creek
Mindhunter
The Expanse
Fleabag
Kingdom
Glow
The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel

These were not ranked but I think other than the somewhat spotty S2 of TMMM they all achieved what they set out to do pretty perfectly. If forced to pick a favorite it would be difficult, though Schitt’s Creek is probably the one I’d watch again most readily, and its avoidance of turning towards any darkness is pretty welcome. Also I think the most unexpectedly moved I’ve been this year was everything involving Stevie, cf her stage performance and her reaction to David’s “big news”.

omar little, Sunday, 16 February 2020 22:30 (five months ago) link

oops and Watchmen as well (id also say that was occasionally spotty but the heights were very high)

omar little, Sunday, 16 February 2020 22:31 (five months ago) link

Yes, watching both Stevie and David evolve from cynical and low-stakes (although deeply-amusing) partners-in-snark to people pushing through anxiety and fear to discover rich new chapters in their lives has been...hoo boy, emotionally-involving, to be sure.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Sunday, 16 February 2020 23:07 (five months ago) link

mine

1. Russian Doll
2. Fleabag
3. Catastrophe
4. Chernobyl
5. Euphoria
6. I Think You Should Leave
7. Sex Education
8. Repair Shop
9. When They See Us
10. Queer Eye

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 17 February 2020 00:36 (five months ago) link

my ballot

I Think You Should Leave
Succession
Lodge 49
Russian Doll
Fleabag
Bojack Horseman
Watchmen
Barry
The Good Place
What We Do In The Shadows
Tuca & Bertie
Catastrophe
Veep
Undone
Legion

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 17 February 2020 02:06 (five months ago) link

My ballot, roughly in order of preference:

Schitt's Creek
Joe Pera Talks to You
The OA
On Cinema at the Cinema
Russian Doll
Doom Patrol
Mindhunter
Mr. Robot
True Detective

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 February 2020 03:42 (five months ago) link

My ballot:

1. Perpetual Grace, Ltd.
2. BoJack Horseman
3. Yorkshire Walks
4. On Cinema at the Cinema
5. Fleabag
6. Chernobyl
7. Gentleman Jack
8. Mortimer & Whitehouse: Gone Fishing
9. This Time With Alan Partridge
10. Years & Years

Thanks so much to the poll-runners, and Moka for the friggin great images! I'm going to have to check out Russian Doll now.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 February 2020 08:10 (five months ago) link

My Ballot:

Money Heist
Dark
Fleabag
Russian Doll
What We Do in the Shadows
The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance
BoJack Horseman
Tuca and Bertie
Mindhunter
Black Spot
Stranger Things
Great British Baking Show

I'm astonished that there were no other votes for my #1, Money Heist. Maybe if it didn't have that stupid title, the original much better title is La Casa de Papel (The House of Paper), as the heist is set in the Royal Mint, where they take the workers hostage in order to print money. Not a grim & gritty gangland heist thing, it's a little bit more of a caper, and we're obviously meant to be on the side of the robbers although they do plenty of questionable things to make it quite morally ambiguous; the performances are great with plenty of strong female roles. So y'know, if you've seen everything else here, check it out.

Thanks to forks & moka!

Paperbag raita (ledge), Monday, 17 February 2020 08:49 (five months ago) link

Joe Pera Talks with You
Fleabag
Watchmen
Desus & Mero
Barry
Chernobyl
Last Week Tonight
Jeopardy!
Pen15
What We Do in the Shadows
Veep
The Mandalorian
Mindhunter
Documentary Now!
Brockmire
Broad City
Good Place

everything I voted for placed so I guess I’m a very simple man. Thanks so much to forks and moka, most enjoyable and joyful poll in recent memory!

Clay, Monday, 17 February 2020 08:51 (five months ago) link

xp Really enjoyed the first season of Money Heist but then they started to drag it out too much in S2 and gave up half way through S3 as it was just too ridiculous (even for a show that had already taken ridiculousness to an extremely high level)

groovypanda, Monday, 17 February 2020 09:29 (five months ago) link

yeah i wouldn't go to it for true crime vibes... i often get annoying by ridiculous plot turns in thrillers but i just thought this was lots of fun.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Monday, 17 February 2020 09:51 (five months ago) link

Stath Lets Flats
GeoWizard - Mission Across Wales
On Cinema at the Cinema
Kiwami Japan
Veep
Ainori Love Wagon: Asian Journey S2
BoJack Horseman
Terrace House: Tokyo 2019-2020
I Did a Thing
Truthpoint
Jon Bois/SB Nation - Chart Party
Tantacrul on Music
Contrapoints
You Suck At Cooking
Jreg

It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia
South Park

Sex Education would have probably been my #1 or #2 if I'd seen it a week earlier.

If you like the Youtube stuff I managed to get into this poll, you should check out my unplaced selections. There's some good stuff in there, trust.

South Park included because the first 6 episodes of the recent season were brilliant. Episode 7 was a typically irritating piece of on-purpose disingenuous transphobia to put the PC babies' noses out of joint; consider me triggered enough to have not watched the rest of the season yet. I probably will. For all that they're occasionally revolting, Parker & Stone are operating at their peak around now

imago, Monday, 17 February 2020 10:06 (five months ago) link

a typically irritating piece of on-purpose disingenuous transphobia

uh yeah ... a reminder of why I don't watch South Park.

thanks to this poll, I started watching (lol) the HBO Watchmen ... whoa. I totally see why y'all voted for it.

sarahell, Monday, 17 February 2020 19:06 (five months ago) link

:(

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 17 February 2020 19:37 (five months ago) link

the show is good / messy in an interesting way -- would have been just as enjoyable (if not more so) if it was not Watchmen-branded

sarahell, Monday, 17 February 2020 19:51 (five months ago) link

Honorable mention acting award of the year goes to Meryl Streep on Big Little Lies. This season wasn't good enough to nom or vote for, and I'm fairly 'meh' on Streep in general but this was probably my favorite performance of hers. I was incessantly infuriated every time she was onscreen. A supercut of her scenes is highly recommended if you can find one. Also Laura Dern had a whole lot more to do this season and was v v good. If you're looking for high-quality performances in a show that doesn't quite gel or fully satisfy as a show, you could do worse, is what I'm saying here.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 February 2020 20:43 (five months ago) link

heh, that show is set where my family is from, and apparently is fairly "authentic" in terms of personality types, so I have been avoiding it, much the same way that my friends who work in tech don't watch Silicon Valley.

sarahell, Monday, 17 February 2020 21:21 (five months ago) link

any of you ever watch...

tientsin mystic
couples therapy
are you the one (season 8)?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 01:46 (five months ago) link

(xpost) Damn, somehow I missed Big Little Lies, too. S2 wasn't as good as S1, but--mostly because of Streep--it would have been third on my list.

clemenza, Thursday, 20 February 2020 03:06 (five months ago) link

Almost done w Too old to die young. It’s very good... possibly even better than twin peaks... well it makes more sense anyway lol

Bstep, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:09 (five months ago) link

Discovering Ainori from this poll and it is INCREDIBLE thanks everyone!

boxedjoy, Friday, 6 March 2020 08:21 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

watched chernobyl, fuck wildly good; it was written on a scene-to-scene level impeccably

johnny crunch, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:14 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Let the party begin. A new season of Tuca and Bertie is coming to Adult Swim in 2021. @aliwong @TiffanyHaddish @lisadraws pic.twitter.com/dmR9yUaTMz

— adultswim (@adultswim) May 22, 2020

some good news!

sleight return (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 May 2020 16:51 (two months ago) link

Excellent news

groovypanda, Friday, 22 May 2020 17:37 (two months ago) link

v positive

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:34 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Sad ending to the Terrace House saga, didn't know about this
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/17/arts/television/terrace-house-suicide.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:12 (two weeks ago) link

has been one of the biggest stories in the pro wrestling world this year, which is saying something. she had a very bright future, was one of the first women to perform at the january 4 tokyo dome show, the biggest annual event in japanese wrestling.

the one thing that stuck out to me before 'the truth' came out was how much faith TH fans seemed to have that the show was more authentic, less scripted than american reality TV. like maybe it's presented with more subtlety and ridiculous camera cuts so people assume it's more documentary-like, and general weebishness drives american fans to think japanese products don't lie like the american ones do

i checked in on the TH subreddit a lot after it happened and while there weren't any "she deserved to die" posts there was a massive amount of "[i wasn't the biggest fan of her]/[she was in the wrong in the laundry incident]/[she should've behaved better]... but she didn't deserve the abuse." like it's still reality tv, it's still bullshit, it shouldn't take someone dying for people to learn it's a presentation and shouldn't be taken at face value. dumbass wrestling fans seemed to get that immediately.

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:48 (two weeks ago) link

*less ridiculous camera cuts, ykwim

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:49 (two weeks ago) link

*.....fewer

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:49 (two weeks ago) link


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