HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

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couldn't find a thread, but i've finally gotten into this show over the past couple weeks and it's so good you guys. i've made it through ep 8 of s1 (the bachelor party) and that was the best episode yet.

succession-heads, succession-converts, or succession-curious, let's anticipate and discuss this acidic, mean-spirited, and addicting show,

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:42 (one year ago) link


jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:42 (one year ago) link

Season 1 is incredible. I didn't clock it was created by one of the Peep Show writers till about halfway through, but it makes so much sense.

chap, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 20:56 (one year ago) link

Yup s1 is great, didn’t know s2 was out

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 21:03 (one year ago) link

s2 starts sunday fyi

yea great show

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 21:20 (one year ago) link

Oh whoa wait, back up a tick...I'd pegged this as one of their lower-tier shows a la Ballers buuuut Peep Show writer, you say. Hmm.

Where Is The Univers (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 21:22 (one year ago) link

oh not at all! Very very good! Watch it ASAP!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 21:24 (one year ago) link

s1 was amazing but definitely peaked in the middle when it had less plot to deal with

na (NA), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 21:25 (one year ago) link

Season finale was a knockout I thought.

chap, Thursday, 8 August 2019 08:29 (one year ago) link

finally finished season 1, the finale was mostly great, especially everything with tom. the chappaquiddick moment was a little on-the-nose imo, they could've maneuvered kendall back into the fold in a different way, but the payoff scene with logan and kendall was worth it.

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Friday, 9 August 2019 16:17 (one year ago) link

agreed on every point there

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 9 August 2019 17:31 (one year ago) link

fuck off!

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:27 (one year ago) link

loved this week's episode, seems like logan dangled the ceo position to shiv to get her to submit to him. what a terrible man.

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:28 (one year ago) link

really good ep, got chills at the end w kendalls monotone statement/threat to the takeover group, & the calm answer back of lets proceed w that then or w/e

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 18:06 (one year ago) link

ah, we have a thread now

yes, the final exchange was perfect

I'm assuming Shiv is getting played, given that we didn't see how Logan's conversations with any of the other kids concluded

Number None, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:15 (one year ago) link

I love the Arrested Development-ness of this show. I keep waiting for Brian Cox to mention the banana stand.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:46 (one year ago) link

I saw their plan and dad's plan is better

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Thursday, 15 August 2019 02:11 (one year ago) link

"I'm looking for pussy like a techno Gatsby"

Number None, Monday, 19 August 2019 23:40 (one year ago) link

been thinking about this vaulter headline for 24 hours that’s just “is every taylor swift lyric secretly marxist?”

— maya kosoff (@mekosoff) August 20, 2019

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 03:39 (one year ago) link

Because my father told me to

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 13:37 (one year ago) link

Did not realized the New Mexico brother is Cameron from Ferris Bueller!

... (Eazy), Monday, 26 August 2019 23:12 (one year ago) link

i'll eat your sausage tom

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 00:37 (one year ago) link

"the doctors say he only has a week or two"

"remind me in a week or two"

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 15:04 (one year ago) link

fuck off

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 11:24 (one year ago) link

is this max on fire

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 16:36 (one year ago) link

this show is so good.

jaymc, Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:06 (one year ago) link

this week's episode is out early btw

Number None, Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:32 (one year ago) link

features an all-time Tom & Greg scene

Number None, Saturday, 31 August 2019 21:33 (one year ago) link

i’m finishing season one

“I like your girlfriend”
“thanks, I met her at a sex party where she was giving a blowjob to the groom”
“you should marry her”

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 2 September 2019 00:36 (one year ago) link

are you asking my PERMISSION to blackmail me?!?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 03:04 (one year ago) link

prob the best show on tv right now? new cast additions are a joy. Holly Hunter! Zach Cherry!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 03:07 (one year ago) link

hate all these people so much

like every moment of kendall on screen is anticipating how he’ll fuck up, while hoping he gets hit by a bus

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 2 September 2019 04:40 (one year ago) link


Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 05:59 (one year ago) link

you don't hyper-decant ?!

самокритика me, daddy (||||||||), Monday, 2 September 2019 09:56 (one year ago) link

Connor’s the most obvious representative of the hyper-moneyed class who never needed a particular ethos or organizing principle for their life (because: money) and constantly scrambles to find one because he’s deeply unconfident. But you don’t have to commit to anything or feel a real investment in efforts because, money!

I feel like they’re leaning into that directionless concept in season 2 with Roman attempting to learn the company

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 2 September 2019 15:58 (one year ago) link

connor roy was interested in politics from a very young age

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:14 (one year ago) link

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:50 (one year ago) link

I'm kind of worried about his paid consort

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:53 (one year ago) link

we need a running tally of every time someone in the family treats a normal person like garbage, only to have a scene where one of their handlers is seen giving an envelope of money in return for a NDA signature in the background

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:55 (one year ago) link

another great episode goddamn. the cousin greg bit at the end was the cherry on top.

speaking of cherries, cherry jones was awesome, hopefully she wasn't just a one-off.

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:55 (one year ago) link

the maid shooting a knowing look at Kendall as he wandered by in the morning might be first first no-payoff-envelope scene where the whole family was present, but given the circumstances that probably isn't foreshadowing?

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:01 (one year ago) link

I think you mean cousin Gregory

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:01 (one year ago) link

yes, my apologies to the honorable gregory

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:04 (one year ago) link

Overjoyed to discover that hyper-decanting is actually real.

Matt DC, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:18 (one year ago) link

Are you an actress or a poetess or something

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:05 (one year ago) link

endless quotable episode but i partic liked

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 9 September 2019 22:11 (one year ago) link

also "i think maybe the morgue is closing for the night"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 9 September 2019 22:14 (one year ago) link

i love this show but also i wonder if there's an audience of MBA dudes who view it as aspirational (a la Wall Street)

na (NA), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:02 (one year ago) link

i mean when logan said "you want to hear my favorite shakespeare quote? take the fucking money" i was like "whoa badass" for a second

na (NA), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:03 (one year ago) link

the pearce family are awful

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 06:09 (one year ago) link

Beats ghostwritten for his boy DJ Squiggle.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 24 May 2020 07:33 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

I just watched the whole thing
It is so good, I actually want to watch it all again so I can memorise it all

I would love to see how the writing process for this show works. It's so tight and so much not said/shown/seen yet really coherent. How do you decide the Congress hearing is where you decide to drop in the amazing Tomlette/Gregs line?

-"Why is Greg here?"
-"I always ask that."

Greg could've been such a one-note character but he is great. Sneaky little dork.

kinder, Saturday, 27 June 2020 21:20 (three months ago) link

This show has kinda ruined TV for me. It’s so fucking good.

circa1916, Saturday, 27 June 2020 21:31 (three months ago) link

can’t remember which tv critic it was, either MZS or alan sepinwall, who said Greg is basically George W Bush: seems totally clueless and out of his depth but actually really crafty and self-serving. he’s going to end up on top for sure.

Roz, Sunday, 28 June 2020 08:55 (three months ago) link

Yeah, Greg is great. Borderline insufferable but still on the right side of the line. As I think I already said upthread, he makes such a fantastic comedy duo with Tom.

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 28 June 2020 09:51 (three months ago) link

Not seen this discussed too much, but I'm a big fan of Peep Show and imo loads of the lines stand out to me as ones that could be Peep Show lines. (Maybe more in s1, or perhaps at that point PS was more familiar to me than the Succession characters, who take a little while to 'get')? E.g. 'That's not very weddingy' vs 'That wasn't very Christmassy'. Most of the stuff Tom and Greg say (the doggy bags not being pre-pooped, etc). This is no criticism btw, it's a great next development for people like me craving the next 'white toast is the treat' -style insight into peoples' psyches.

kinder, Sunday, 28 June 2020 10:15 (three months ago) link

Oh apparently I missed a reference to 'Stefan Strauss' in Succession - disappointed in myself *adopts permanent Kendall face*

kinder, Sunday, 28 June 2020 10:19 (three months ago) link

"You don’t hear much about syphilis these days. Very much the MySpace of STDs" another line you'd totally hear from Mark Corrigan.

kinder, Sunday, 28 June 2020 10:33 (three months ago) link

I've said it before, Greg is the secret protagonist.

chap, Monday, 29 June 2020 08:51 (three months ago) link


Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 June 2020 14:21 (three months ago) link

I don't remember the first ep of S1 but isn't Greg the first character that we meet/follow ?

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:23 (three months ago) link

i think given the opening of the series it is BEYOND OBVIOUS that the plan is for greg to end up running the company

sean gramophone, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:28 (three months ago) link

I thought that but Season 2 focused quite heavily on humanising Roman, particularly the sexual abuse subtext, and embedding the idea that he's smart enough to do it if he grew up and applied himself properly. Greg's machiavelianism feels heavily telegraphed which makes me think it isn't going to be him after all.

The other weird thing about Greg's character is that in contrast with everyone else on the show he appears to have zero interest in sex.

Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:45 (three months ago) link

He's basically a 10yo (very tall) dorky kid.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 29 June 2020 15:11 (three months ago) link

Greg is the Candide character, we can't focus on him for too long because he's only barely there. He does seem fated to Chauncey Gardener his way to the top though.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 June 2020 15:54 (three months ago) link

I find it excruciating that S03 has been delayed and live in fear that the castmembers will no longer be available when filming is set to resume

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 29 June 2020 16:37 (three months ago) link

I haven't seen Peep Show but many of the zingiest lines in Succession seem to come straight out of The Thick of It, so Armstrong clearly has that identifiable style.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 29 June 2020 16:56 (three months ago) link

Watch Peep Show!

kinder, Monday, 29 June 2020 17:37 (three months ago) link

I see Greg as more of a secret antagonist.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:41 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 2 August 2020 05:40 (two months ago) link

I caught season 2 before season 1 which was dumb but two things from s1 I don't think were mentioned itt - Tom walking in on Shiv wrestling Roman and doing an immediate 180 was a fantastic made for GIF moment and later when they all go to Conor's ranch both Conor and Roman make this sheepish 'hi...' at Karolina implying they both have some probably-not-good past with her but no more is made of it. Roman watching the satellite blow up in the bathroom at the wedding also so good.

nashwan, Saturday, 8 August 2020 12:56 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

I just binged both seasons in less than a week and I feel like i want to cry / eat lobster / snort rails of coke / fly in a helicopter

- kendall ie jeremy strong fuck that dude kills me with his acting so amazing just jaw on the floor

all the intersibling/familial history stuff is so good & well acted/written

- all the shared moments between the siblings are gold & so real. those “are you ok. no really” moments of protectiveness/love in such a love-starved family are so good.

- same vein: when logan backhanded roman & kendall sprang at him DONT YOU TOUCH HIM felt very true to life w abusive parents etc. theyve clearly been through some awful shit (the story shiv tells of logan beating roman for 5 minutes because he ordered the lobster at a restaurant when they were kids)

- kendall wanting to come clean to his Mum when she’s clearly never been that for him (or any of them) & she uncomfortably puts him off & then fully peaces out the next morning to avoid it completely. Just gutting. you see the kid & the adult simultaneously in his face but also it is so obvious on that moment that he’s so broken that he cant stop doing it to himself

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:19 (one month ago) link


my fav scene in the whole show😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭#SuccessionHBO

— Ken △⃒⃘dams (@_Abudejain) August 28, 2020

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 September 2020 02:38 (one month ago) link

yay Veg!

kinder, Sunday, 6 September 2020 07:45 (one month ago) link

- kendall ie jeremy strong fuck that dude kills me with his acting so amazing just jaw on the floor

a million times this

Just a few slices of apple, Servant. Thank you. How delicious. (stevie), Sunday, 6 September 2020 08:17 (one month ago) link

I've finally persuaded my husband to watch it, so I'm watching it with him (sacrifices!). We've just watched one of my favourite episodes of season one, where Tom takes Greg out for the evening to show him how great it is to be rich, and it's not really that great because they are separated from everybody else. This is definitely one of those shows that improves on a rewatch because you know what's coming. All those great and scary things you talk about, for example.

trishyb, Sunday, 6 September 2020 09:46 (one month ago) link

season 3 when

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Sunday, 6 September 2020 12:36 (one month ago) link

There might be a few things getting in the way of filming right now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 September 2020 13:10 (one month ago) link

That should do a special zoom episode.

dan selzer, Sunday, 6 September 2020 13:52 (one month ago) link

they really shouldn't

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 6 September 2020 14:38 (one month ago) link

Sarah Snook has been stuck living on a friend's sofa in a Melbourne flat for six months. Even if HBO were able to film her with a drone during the one permitted outside hour of exercise per day, she's not going to have Shiv"s requisite hair & makeup.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Sunday, 6 September 2020 16:50 (one month ago) link

Well I assume the scripts will be pretty tight by the time they get to filming at least.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 20:28 (one month ago) link

guys i feel so lost what the fuck do i even watch now. i almost want to drag my tv out into the street, what good is it anymore honestly

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 September 2020 20:48 (one month ago) link

I have not watched all of TV but I feel confident in saying this is the best thing on TV.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 September 2020 21:28 (one month ago) link

They should really do a zoom special.

dan selzer, Sunday, 6 September 2020 22:14 (one month ago) link

Sorry, Microsoft Teams.

dan selzer, Sunday, 6 September 2020 22:14 (one month ago) link

On the plus side, I feel this is one show which could actually weave the covid crisis into its storylines in a satisfying way.

chap, Sunday, 6 September 2020 22:46 (one month ago) link

Armstrong has said he has no intention of doing pandemic storylines iirc

(presumably they'd have to throw out his entire plan for S3 and any further future for the show to do so - but if there's no plan beyond S3 yet, I reckon it would indeed provide great potential plot directions once we have some idea what society will look like beyond this)

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Sunday, 6 September 2020 23:00 (one month ago) link

obvs veg is being hyperbolic but for those who have not yet read the thread
Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 6 September 2020 23:25 (one month ago) link

those are great takes, vg. the brilliance of the show is in finding and shining a light on the remaining slivers of humanity and vulnerability in the characters. it's tough for me to imagine the next time i'll like a show this much.

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 September 2020 03:07 (one month ago) link

i heard an interview w Alan Ruck on the succession podcast, and he had the greatest take on Connor

he said Connor doesnt read anything new that forces him to form an opinion. he would read old works of literature like Marcel Proust’s “Remembrance of Things Past”, works are already accepted by others as being great, so he doesnt have to decide or do the work.

I found this highly amusing & otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 September 2020 15:27 (one month ago) link

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 05:39 (one month ago) link

lmao accurate

Roz, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:54 (one month ago) link


jaymc, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:06 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Okay, I haven't read the entire thread here, since I still have the last two episodes of Season 2 to watch, but I'm really surprised by how much I'm enjoying this. In a show full of embarrassing people doing awful things, Kendall's rap was amazingly awful. I kind of want a sitcom spin-off with Tom and Greg as roommates.

And for all of Roman's great lines, I don't know why this one killed me:

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 13:42 (one week ago) link

"Excuse me, what are Greg sprinkles?"

Also, loved this little exchange:

Shiv: This. Oh. So you've been stewing on that?

Tom: Why yes, I have been stewing on it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:40 (one week ago) link

Kendall's rap was amazingly awful

The best part was you could see the cut to Greg being really into it a mile away but when they actually did it still paid in full.

nashwan, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:46 (one week ago) link


soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:48 (one week ago) link

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