The Dark Crystal

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"los Skexis"

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

pennysong is now 20 posts behind Ned.

You must be prouder than a motherfucker now, Hanle y.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

You do realise I have 315 posts besides that dont you ?

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah ... but you don't want the Roger Maris treatment, no?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Mike has to find some way to ease the pain. Anyway, The Dark Crystal = grate. No arguments.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I rented the DVD. I really have a crush on the female Gelfling. The Podlings are very cute too. I wtached it with teh Spanish voice track so the Gelflings were always liek " Ay CAramba! Los Skexis!" It was also funny to hear mexican sounding skexis, they sounded like half dead runaway mutant pirate dwarfs from Tijuana

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Get back, spithead!

emil.y, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Friggin' amazing sounding, that Spanish language track. I also heartily recommend watching Tron with the French dubbing.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, we know ned. BTW check teh statscock lately?

Mike Hanle y, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Before we knew who Rat-tail Jim was, we used to call him The Gelf, because he looks like a Dark Crystal character.

chris, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

beautiful movie.

Geoff, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Scary movie, or was when I was little.

Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

*shrug* Your place in the stats cock and your obsession with it merely measures your own inadequacies with regard to posting. Ha. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

A good movie, the kind that they will never make again.

Zaftig Cid, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

A favorite of mind as a child. I'm still trying to track down that rare-as-fuck book that was issued out with the film.

JC, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

mind=mine

oops.

JC, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

"......mmmmmmmMMMMMMMMmmmm..."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 February 2008 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

my gf kind of looks like a gelfling <3

negotiable, Saturday, 22 November 2008 08:47 (ten years ago) link

i have the book, jc from 7 years ago!

negotiable, Saturday, 22 November 2008 08:48 (ten years ago) link

Would you hump a gelfling?

circles, Saturday, 22 November 2008 08:50 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

I rented the DVD. I really have a crush on the female Gelfling. The Podlings are very cute too. I wtached it with teh Spanish voice track so the Gelflings were always liek " Ay CAramba! Los Skexis!" It was also funny to hear mexican sounding skexis, they sounded like half dead runaway mutant pirate dwarfs from Tijuana
― Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, October 2, 2001 8:00 PM (9 years ago)

lol!

Aerosol, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:20 (eight years ago) link

"los Skexis"

Aerosol, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:20 (eight years ago) link

does anyone else stare and stare at the glowing guy's head at the end just trying to figure out what's going on with the facial structure?

andrew m., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 19:28 (eight years ago) link

Yes! I remember doing that!

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 23:42 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Great piece from David Odell, the original screenwriter:

http://io9.com/5962221/the-secret-origins-of-the-dark-crystal

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:44 (six years ago) link

this movie is fucking bizarre

THAT IS ONE BIG PIZZA (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:48 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

Hmmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGzVYyV_Jsg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:26 (two years ago) link

Via io9:

TV Line reports that Louis Leterrier (Now You See Me, The Incredible Hulk, The Transporter) will direct and executive produce the series. Netflix’s official description reveals this about the plot: “When three Gelfling discover the horrifying secret behind the Skeksis’ power, they set out on an epic journey to ignite the fires of rebellion and save their world.”

Except...they lose.

(I mean I AM all for this, but.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:27 (two years ago) link

has ilx discussed the original version before they dubbed over the whole movie to make it less incomprehensible?

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:28 (two years ago) link

There's a fan edit floating around out there with low-quality workprint scenes spliced in that restore a lot of the 'Skeksis speaking Skeks-ese' scenes.

I LOVE the movie. I am not excited about a series run by the director of Now You See Me.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:48 (two years ago) link

ducking out of calling the sequel "now you dont" was serious bullshit

spud called maris (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 May 2017 16:52 (two years ago) link

the movie lives deep in my core. i'll watch this but i'll have my heavier set of disappointment-armor on

as a film score nerd the announcement of whomever they hire to do the music is likely to be especially deflating (trevor jones and peter knight having hit the ball wayyy out of the park on the film and LP...)

fish louse (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 May 2017 17:20 (two years ago) link

There's a fan edit floating around out there with low-quality workprint scenes spliced in that restore a lot of the 'Skeksis speaking Skeks-ese' scenes.

― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch)

the best fan edits only use the audio from the test print; it's incomprehensible but i feel like that would be the case even were the audio in super-hi-fi.

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:13 (two years ago) link

the close-up tracking shot over the plants and small creatures of that bog is one of my favorite sequences in the history of film btw.

fish louse (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:35 (two years ago) link

i recently found this hidden in a corner of hq :

http://www.tolkienshop.com/contents/media/worlddcpb.jpg

the artwork is insanely good.
and there are pages of maps, and the page before is tracing paper, with overlayed graphics so when you put the two together they reveal more of the secrets.
the level of art/story detail is fantastic.

mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:44 (two years ago) link

for example.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/81/da/b1/81dab1f891ef69e31f965513a15e48f7.jpg

the artwork page would be the basic creature, and then you would place the previous page over the top and see as above.

mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:46 (two years ago) link

I need to own that tbrr

fish louse (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:10 (two years ago) link

lest we forget the magnificence of AUGRA

Violet Jynx, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:13 (two years ago) link

Was just looking into that book the other day after realizing the reprint has itself gone out of print.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:16 (two years ago) link

if only i have looked after my first edition better.

(to be fair, it has been through many years of neglect/house moves etc .. )

mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:15 (two years ago) link

and its only the back sleeve page thats bent, the book itself is not that bad actually.

mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:16 (two years ago) link

i will totally hunt for a messed up 'reading quality' copy

fish louse (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:20 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

I will buy all this book

http://io9.gizmodo.com/a-look-inside-the-definitive-book-on-bringing-the-dark-1796466091

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:44 (two years ago) link

Oh my god yes. My Henson library is gonna need its own shelf soon.

President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 03:48 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Game of Thrones’ Emmanuel is playing Deet

No word on who’s playing Deep Woods Off though

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:02 (nine months ago) link

I'll reserve judgment until I've actually seen it, but my general feeling about this project is 'no'.

Loggins and Rogers and G are...K3NNY (Old Lunch), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:14 (nine months ago) link

10 parts seems a little much

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:50 (nine months ago) link

five months pass...

I mean...visually, it seems pretty close to the mark. Not crazy about all of the celebrivoices. I dunno, man, I just don't think I need this.

5 favrite kind of animal. jaguar. giraffe. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 21:51 (three months ago) link

If nothing else, the money is all there on the screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSV42j8lccg

A little heavy on the fan service, but looks very nice

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 30 May 2019 15:41 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

Anyone else started this yet?

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 31 August 2019 01:35 (two weeks ago) link

started tonight

flippin gorgeous, hard not to just float into pure nostalgic glee

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2019 05:55 (two weeks ago) link

Two episodes in and have to say it's excellent so far, if a little dark for my nine year old.

Looks absolutely stunning

groovypanda, Saturday, 31 August 2019 16:03 (two weeks ago) link

peeper beetle D:

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:49 (two weeks ago) link

guys i’m OBSESSED

it’s really really good, super dark, the story is really well crafted and i think everyone should watch it

also my GOD there is some creepy shit in this

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 September 2019 04:18 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I'm watching it sans kids now

groovypanda, Sunday, 1 September 2019 19:31 (two weeks ago) link

I can’t stop looking at their tongues.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 1 September 2019 23:49 (two weeks ago) link

Just rewatched the movie for the first time since, uh, 1983 I guess - all I remembered was the jump scare with the little dog. Was expecting something shonky and dated, but it’s so fabulous! What a great surprise. Still can’t quite believe this passed for mainstream entertainment when I was a kid.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 2 September 2019 00:12 (two weeks ago) link

xp one episode in the can and that's all i can think about. i haven't watched the movie in forever but i feel like that wasn't there?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 2 September 2019 05:05 (two weeks ago) link

it was there

you need to get over the tongues imo
it will free you

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 September 2019 05:22 (two weeks ago) link

rewatched the movie today & goddamn the original score is a thing of beauty. the worst part is still poor Jen, stuck describing everything we already see happening in the most awkward way :( but Kira sprouting wings is still one of my fave moments. and the intro of Aughra.

also Oz’s puppetry of Aughra & Chamberlain is incredible when you study it. all these subtle movements that create such an incredible canvas for the voice actors to go to town. Dennen’s Chamberlain is still amazing to me

made me appreciate how much the new series ties so much together. like filling in the backstory on the scientist’s light-up eye, the machiavellianism of the chamberlain, and the mystic/skeksis schism; or expands on ideas - like the gelfling throne Kira sits on, or podling culture, the origin of the garthrim.
and man i see even more how great a job Pegg does with dovetailing into Dennen’s original voicework as Chamberlain. It’s really something.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 September 2019 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

and all that natural-looking light! ugh. the staging & production has so much depth you just fall into it even when you try to hone in one a detail

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 September 2019 19:16 (two weeks ago) link

goddamn the original score is a thing of beauty.

OTM

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 00:53 (two weeks ago) link

also Oz’s puppetry of Aughra & Chamberlain is incredible when you study it.

As much as I deeply love Jim Henson and all of his work, Oz was the true savant of that crew.

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:50 (two weeks ago) link

I have to say, y'all itt are doing a solid job of undercutting my skeksisism re: this undertaking.

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 11:52 (two weeks ago) link

you really should give it a shot

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 14:26 (two weeks ago) link

I’m really enjoying this (7 eps in, I think). Probably enjoying it more than the film, which I never had as strong nostalgic links to as, say, Labyrinth.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 14:35 (two weeks ago) link

Hello parasite carrying an eyeball, why am I sympathising with you?

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 16:33 (two weeks ago) link

don't mess with skexis

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:06 (two weeks ago) link

i fancy watching this. not a huge fan of the film (although top marks for terrifying me as a child) but it's just nice to see some good old fashioned puppetry on the go in this world of cgi muck

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:07 (two weeks ago) link

xpost lol

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:10 (two weeks ago) link

Lookit, when it doesn't land I'm generally content to let it lie but my unheralded coinage of 'skeksisism' upthread was solid imho

Time to Make a Pizza Pact! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

rewatched the movie today & goddamn the original score is a thing of beauty. the worst part is still poor Jen, stuck describing everything we already see happening in the most awkward way :(

Watched the movie with my 7 year-old the other night (well most of it, got a little too creepy for him) but that was his thought as well, "is he going to narrate everything we already know the whole movie?".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:15 (two weeks ago) link

What's wrong with being skeksy?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:16 (two weeks ago) link

xpost lol, yeah it’s like you find yrself saying to the tv “HEY JEN: WE KNOW”

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:17 (two weeks ago) link

I'm Skeksy and I Know It

Melon Musk (Leee), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:42 (two weeks ago) link

let's talk about skeks

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:43 (two weeks ago) link

Bringing skeksi back

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:45 (two weeks ago) link

twitter took that through to its logical conclusion

While watching #DarkCrystalAgeOfResistance I rewrote the lyrics to SexyBack from The Chamberlain's perspective. As you do. #DarkCrystal pic.twitter.com/rlUjHBiQpW

— Sarah Doran (@sarahisnothere) August 31, 2019

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 01:49 (two weeks ago) link

I was kind of iffy until the third episode, but I'm definitely draw in now. Hup + Deet are my favorites so far, and I think part of my fondness for Deet in particular is how poorly Missandei was treated as a character in GOT.

Melon Musk (Leee), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:46 (two weeks ago) link

HUP SPOON 2020

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:41 (two weeks ago) link

OMG!!!! I know a lot of you have mentioned how dark the series gets, but I didn't expect all the feels.

Aphex Twinge (Leee), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:52 (two weeks ago) link

right?

v emotional

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:52 (two weeks ago) link

The Heretic!

BTW one reason I love Deet is how bright eyed she is, and how, because Grottans live in caves, their pupils are perpetually dilated, and so she is also literally bright eyed because everything is bright to her.

Aphex Twinge (Leee), Saturday, 7 September 2019 08:10 (one week ago) link

yes! that was such a specific & beautifully realized detail

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 September 2019 16:04 (one week ago) link

the season is so rich with detail storywise & it is clear by the end that there’s so much more to tell, the idea of more seasons is v exciting & i did not expect to feel that way going in

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 September 2019 16:07 (one week ago) link

Get that season 2 confirmed, Netflix!

Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Monday, 9 September 2019 05:36 (one week ago) link

Finished it now.

Fuck me. I already thought it was dark but those last few episodes take it to another level.

Kind of glad my kids stopped watching as episode 7 would have totally freaked them out.

Is this a lock for a second season or do the costs involved mean it's not such a sure thing?

groovypanda, Monday, 9 September 2019 08:03 (one week ago) link

THis is cute
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/the-lead-artist-on-netflixs-new-dark-crystal-series-was-the-baby-in-labyrinth-114447773.html
saw the headline a few days ago.

So far seen the first episode which is really nicely done and already getting a bit dark.
Will watch the rest shortly.

Stevolende, Monday, 9 September 2019 08:59 (one week ago) link

groovyP: how come the kids stopped watching?

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 9 September 2019 13:42 (one week ago) link

Son (9) was a bit too young, daughter (11) is not interested in any shows unless they're about Australian hotels or baby showers

groovypanda, Monday, 9 September 2019 13:49 (one week ago) link

Wish they had focused on fewer characters to give them more depth. Without that, the relationships between the characters felt thin, except maybe Deet and Hup. Everyone's hugging at the end and I'm like "you said two words to that character". Also, would have liked to see more about the aftermath of Seladon realizing her error - how it affected her and her relationship with Brea. Seemed like it was just dropped, everything forgiven/forgotten by both characters.

Some of the voices were grating but it's ostensibly a kid's show, can't really fault that. Many of the Skeksis voices were great tho

Visuals were simply amazing. My wife complained about the lack of emotion due to it being puppets, but I dunno, I was sold

Vinnie, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 01:19 (one week ago) link

Some things that I've learned since I finished the series:

- Puppeteering happens BEFORE voice actors record their lines, meaning that voice actors match to the puppeteers.
- Voice actors record their lines solo, because syncing to the puppets' mouth movements makes ensemble voice acting much more difficult.
- Voices aren't processed, i.e. Simon Pegg is actually using that voice for Chamberlain.

Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:43 (one week ago) link

i see you watched that 90 minute making-of episode to.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:13 (one week ago) link

*too

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:13 (one week ago) link

yeah I learned a lot of cool stuff from that!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 September 2019 02:03 (one week ago) link

it was enthralling!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 12 September 2019 02:47 (one week ago) link

i love that the whole Froud family is involved

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 September 2019 03:27 (one week ago) link

Something to be Froud of.
It's nicely done anyway.
I think I need to give the original a watch again. & hope there's more or similar coming.

Stevolende, Thursday, 12 September 2019 06:27 (one week ago) link


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