A thread for Stranger Things, the "Goonies meets X-Files" new Netflix series (with SPOILERS!)

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There was already some discussion on it on the general Netflix thread, but IMO it deserves a thread of it's own. And it's nicer for people who've watched the first season to discuss it here without needing to avoid spoilers.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:30 (one year ago) Permalink

IMO the whole 80s nostalgia felt kinda gratuitous at first, but of course as an 80s kid I also enjoyed, and I really thought all those signifiers helped people ease into the whole Goonies/E.T. vibe the makers were clearly aiming for... The whole idea that something mysterious and weird is lurking right behind the boring everyday life in a small town, but it doesn't go fully into David Lynch style cruel & adult suburban horror, I liked how the tone was always kept safe enough that actual kids around the same age as the kid protagonists could enjoy it.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Also, of course the whole commie paranoia aspect worked pretty nicely with the 80s setting, it had enough distance to real-world issues of today that it didn't feel like they were exploiting real fears to produce family entertainment, which might have been the case if the series was set in the present day, applying present day paranoias (like the fear of terrorism).

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:38 (one year ago) Permalink

And of course the setting allowed them to avoid some plot problems that might've risen if it was set in a time period where cell phones and the internet are commonly available.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:39 (one year ago) Permalink

As for follow-up seasons, Johnny Fever posted this in the other thread:

Just watched an interview with the producers who say if Netflix grants Stranger Things additional seasons that it's not going to be an anthology series like American Horror Story or Fargo; they're going to base it around the same characters in the same approximate time—which, if you've made it all the way to episode 8, seems hard to believe. But I'm on board.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), 17. heinäkuuta 2016 10:53 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

IMO the follow-up is pretty easy to make with all the clues they set up in the final episode. Most importantly, it's heavily implied that Eleven didn't die but was transported to the upside down world. Her body isn't found, and Hopper is leaving Eggos (her favourite food) to the forest where we know the wall between the two world is pretty weak. And Hopper himself seems to be involved in some kind of X-Files work now, what with the men in black seemingly recruiting him at the end of the episode.

And then of course there's the baby monster Danny coughs out, which was the most obvious setup for the next season. And we still don't what happened to the upside down dimension... Since it has the same buildings as the "real" world, it seems it was once inhabited by humans, so what happened to them and why is it now infested with monsters? Seems like there's a lot of material still left to explore in a new season, I'm all for it.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Sorry, I meant to write Will, not Danny.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 10:55 (one year ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who felt casting Modine here was completely pointless? The three or four scenes where he got to actually do something could've been done by pretty much any second string TV actor, he never felt really threatening or anything.

Ryder was pretty good on the other hand, though her role was pretty one-note, it mostly went along the old "hysterical mother eventually finds the strength to face the monster" trope, a la Shelley Duvall in The Shining. Interested to see whether she gets to do more in a second season. The sheriff guy's "young John C. Reilly" impression and Eleven's intense innocence were the best bits of the show, acting-wise. Would totally watch a show revolving around those two only.

Frodo and the other three hobbits were all okay, but kinda interchangeable. The kid playing Sam was clearly the best, or at least he got the funniest snarky lines. Hope the second season elevates him beyond the comic relief role he mostly had in this one.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 12:23 (one year ago) Permalink

It's not like Modine is getting top billing jobs anymore, so his casting seemed appropriate. Also, they might be able to young him down a little bit if there are flashbacks in the future.

The only—ONLY—thing I found disappointing was the monster's design. Seems those featureless "venus fly trap" faces are so commonplace now. And while they do sufficiently creep me out, I guess I was expecting a better reveal.

I though all of the kids were amazing, even the teens. All the adults too. Nancy and Michael's dad was so exquisitely one-note and aloof.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Eleven's mother was the woman the chief and Winona went to go visit, yes? The story about the miscarriage seems like something that would have been used to cover up just literally stealing a baby.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, agree that the monster was disappointing and too "common horror creature" looking... They shouldn't have shown it properly at all, or it should've been truly faceless or something.

One interesting thing that was barely touched: it seemed like the Demogorgon wasn't really a "monster" per se, just an animal looking for something to eat? Even the creepy things done to Barb and others seemed to be just to provide food for its growing young. It felt like they could've gotten more out of the fact that Modine's character was the one real monster, but that wasn't really explored.


Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Eleven's mother was the woman the chief and Winona went to go visit, yes? The story about the miscarriage seems like something that would have been used to cover up just literally stealing a baby.

Yeah, that seemed to be case. At first I feared they were gonna reveal Eleven was the sheriff's girl who didn't die after all, but thankfully they didn't go there, that would've been too appropriate.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:25 (one year ago) Permalink

I was waiting for them to reveal that Will was really the biological son of the sheriff

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Also, I felt kinda bad for Barb and her family. So much of the show revolved around Will and how sad her disappearance made everyone, but at least he was saved! Barb's mom was shown in exactly one scene, and we never saw if her family even found out what really happened to her. In most cases I thought Stranger Things managed to avoid the worst cliches of the '80s movies it was emulating, but here it felt that because Barb was so clearly the "attractive teen girl protagonist's not-so-attractive best sidekick", her fate could just be hand-waved with barely any mention.


Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:32 (one year ago) Permalink

I was waiting for them to reveal that Will was really the biological son of the sheriff

Wasn't it said that the sheriff had been in town for only 4 years?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:33 (one year ago) Permalink

And that he used to work in some bigger city before that? Probably lost that job because of the trauma of her daughter's death.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:33 (one year ago) Permalink


Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:33 (one year ago) Permalink

I think it was implied that he's only been back in town for four years.

As for Barb, I thought it was a pity she just ended up as story fodder in the end, but maybe her parents still believe she ran away?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe I'm misremembering, but I seem to recall one of the deputies asking the sheriff whether it was like this in the big city, or something like that?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:36 (one year ago) Permalink

One thing that's been bugging me, and it's definitely not ruining the story for me in any way, is that if the gate to the Upside Down was only opened by Eleven recently, what was the creature feeding on before it could get topside?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:37 (one year ago) Permalink


Can't imagine the sheriff not telling her parents that she died, even if he wouldn't/couldn't tell all the details.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:37 (one year ago) Permalink

xp Yeah, I think he grew up in Hawkins, moved away to Indianapolis, and then moved back after his daughter died and his marriage dissolved.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:38 (one year ago) Permalink

One thing that's been bugging me, and it's definitely not ruining the story for me in any way, is that if the gate to the Upside Down was only opened by Eleven recently, what was the creature feeding on before it could get topside?

Well like I said above, since the upside down world had all the same buildings as the real world, the implication seems to have been that it was once a normal parallel world that was inhabited by people, possibly parallel versions of the people in the real world. But then something had happened and the creature(s) had infested the world and eaten everyone there.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:39 (one year ago) Permalink

xpost They seemed to be setting something up, with the sheriff asking if Will was gay in this weird way. And the other cops saying he used to sleep with Winona.

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:40 (one year ago) Permalink

And presumably the backstory of the upside down world will be explored more in the next season? Especially if Eleven is now stuck there.


Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess they could still reveal him to be Will's father. But that'd mean he was having an affair with her while he had a wife and daughter, not sure if they want to go there?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:42 (one year ago) Permalink

We're going to need a full character chronology to sort this out

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Joyce and Hopper probably have some kind of ties back to high school, because he seemed to have some weird relationship with Lonnie (competition, disdain, something).

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 14:49 (one year ago) Permalink

This was like the perfect blend of Spielberg and Stephen king

Was that a hatched egg hopper stopped to look at when they were in the upside-down?

just1n3, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:30 (one year ago) Permalink

I thought so. Nice Alien reference.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:32 (one year ago) Permalink

I wasn't sure, not after will choked out that baby slug

just1n3, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:43 (one year ago) Permalink

I imagine the snakey thing that Hopper pulled out of Will's throat hatched from the egg, then left a little creature thingy inside him to do...what? Who knows.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 19:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Eleven is the monster, guys

i.e. she created it

Number None, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 20:30 (one year ago) Permalink

why was will still alive but barb was dead?

just1n3, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 21:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Will found hiding places

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 21:57 (one year ago) Permalink

And was incubating the thing

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 21:57 (one year ago) Permalink

i.e. she created it

Did she, though? Whenever she was in that black space with the wet floor, she could hone in on already living creatures (people to eavesdrop on), but there's no indication she could ever manifest something into being. She just brought it back out with her.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 23:36 (one year ago) Permalink

Xps yeah but the monster snatched him, right? So how did he get away?

And how did the monster get the scientist dude in the elevator at the beginning?

just1n3, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 23:40 (one year ago) Permalink

It came through a hole between the dimensions in the ceiling.

Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 06:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, it was a bit dodgy that the creature dragged both Barb and Will to the upside down dimension, but somehow Will managed to slip away from it while Barb didn't. But I guess Will is smaller and it was easier for him to hide? The creature didn't seem to have good eyesight, or possibly it was even blind? And Barb was bleeding while Will wasn't, so it couldn't track him by smell.

Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 06:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Since there were so many homages to the movie, I'm wondering whether season 2 will be the Aliens to season 1's Alien? The creature couldn't really have taken over a whole planet all by itself, and it was breeding anyway, so we should get multiple monsters next season... Though I'd be more happy if it was more about the mysteries of the upside down dimension in general, I'm not sure if the monster was successfully enough done that it could carry another season.

Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 06:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, the creature would have to have some amazing backstory for me to be happy with them focusing an entire second season on it.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 21 July 2016 07:09 (one year ago) Permalink

One more interesting thing that wasn't really discussed in the finale: the sheriff pretty much sold out Eleven to save Will, didn't he? He told the bad guys where El and the other kids were hiding, so what happened next was kinda his fault. At first I thought they'd reveal he was faking, that he told the bad guys some false location, but that didn't seem to be the case... Maybe that's why he's bringing food to El at the end (and possibly helping her hide from the men in black?), because he feels guilty about it?

Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 07:20 (one year ago) Permalink

feel like we were robbed of epic modine death. but maybe he didn't die...it was too quick. they should have had him talking up against a wall in the school and the monster comes out of the wall and chomps his head off. that's always a good way to do it.

scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 14:22 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I didn't really understand that sudden shift in his character. I guess his primary concern was making Joyce's family whole again, all else be damned. I don't know if El is still alive, or if she is, that's she's even in "our" world, but him leaving the Eggo waffles out there makes me think he feels pretty guilty.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 21 July 2016 14:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I've only seen like 2 and some change episodes of this but my early reaction: fuck this show. Have a lot of affection for the things it references, but (or because of that) this feels so pandering, witless, and soulless. Does it do anything interesting in the back half or does it continue emptily jerking off ppl who were kids in the 80s?

circa1916, Thursday, 21 July 2016 15:44 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm an 80's kid who has shrugged and ignored over 5 million 80's revivals and i loved this!

scott seward, Thursday, 21 July 2016 15:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, the same here. It doesn't really go above and beyond it's inspirations, but IMO it's a solid, intriguing mystery story with mostly good actors and some neat visuals, not just an empty pastiche. The 80s tropes are really just the cake dressing, I would've liked this story even with a present day setting. But if the first 2 episodes haven't convinced you, I can't imagine the rest of it will.

Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:41 (one year ago) Permalink

one break with 80s form-- the girl who has sex lives and the virgin dies

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:44 (one year ago) Permalink

I was thinking that mustve been deliberate hey?

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:46 (one year ago) Permalink

How do you know she was virgin? Just because she looked geeky?

Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Trying watching some of the EPK “after show” eps but it seemed pointless fluff and more sub-Entertainment Tonight-y than anything I would have expected Jim Rash to be involved with.

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Monday, 6 November 2017 02:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

just want to join the love for the jim croce scene. that was really sweet. and the kind of depiction of bonding between hopper and el that I'd have loved more of. tho it still beats S1's thing of never showing you winona and will together so you only know their relationship as her freaking out while he's gone.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 November 2017 03:07 (seven months ago) Permalink

i groaned audibly when Hopper fired that up lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 November 2017 03:43 (seven months ago) Permalink

Had a thought that Billy was an anarchronistic dirtbag by Midwest standards, but maybe not Californian. That would explain why he had Metallica in 1984 as opposed to more trad classic/stadium rock as mentioned above.

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Monday, 6 November 2017 06:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

thought this was fine, not as good as season one but still a lot of fun. the pile-on of 5000 word think pieces overanalysing every scene, and explaining to me how this season is the worst thing in human history is pretty hilarious, but then i guess if you're trying to convince yourself that writing about TV was the correct career choice then you need to dress things up a bit

jamiesummerz, Monday, 6 November 2017 10:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

Did a two evening binge on S2 and enjoyed it.

A minor gripe, I feel that they don't need to be quite as explicit with the references, watching Winona banging the table in front of the doctors had me replaying the same "who are you people!!!' scene from CEOT3K and it's more distracting than pleasing. S2 felt more loaded with specifics like this.

MaresNest, Monday, 6 November 2017 11:18 (seven months ago) Permalink

croce choice just seemed totally in character to me, and also - shades of billy joel thread here - I really got the "kid loves music and loves that parent figure is sharing it with them" vibe. sharing music having been an important theme to the jonathan/will thing last season, it was a nice variation this time around.

i still wish the kids had more interests btw. last time i wanted to see some passing reference to things besides d&d, x-men and star wars. now it's only d&d. do they read? have hobbies?

Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 November 2017 12:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

Who needs hobbies when you have demodogs?

Vas the deferens? (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 November 2017 13:15 (seven months ago) Permalink

Billy needed a wig, Rob did not

andrew m., Monday, 6 November 2017 17:37 (seven months ago) Permalink

I had a brief debate with my friend who was claiming Steve's haircut was a mullet when it surely was not

the douchebag stepbrother had a mullet for sure

mh, Monday, 6 November 2017 17:39 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah Steve’s is way too long on top & sides to be a mullet.
i dunno what it’s called, medium-length feathered?

mullet’s got to be short at the sides, even if there’s a bit of length (spikes, curls) on top

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 November 2017 17:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

the defining mullet feature is that the back has to be longer than the rest of the haircut imo

mh, Monday, 6 November 2017 17:59 (seven months ago) Permalink

yeah that too

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 November 2017 18:37 (seven months ago) Permalink

I watched a couple of those 'beyond' shows (just a couple, too much shouting) and Steve's hair is just about as foofy irl.

MaresNest, Monday, 6 November 2017 20:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

it’s pretty majestic

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 November 2017 20:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

i'll read the thread later but just finished this and found this season to be a massive step up over the first one. the plotting in episodes 6/8/9 was roughly as good as anything in their long list of influences.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 03:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

Doc Casino hit my feelings on this season almost exactly. Most importantly, I thought the cast got too big for them to give everybody time. Max seemed cool but was underdeveloped. Mike, ostensibly the main character in S1, was barely given anything this season. The El episode was an interesting idea that ended up being quite boring. Again, underdeveloped supporting characters

But there was lots to like as well. Liked the storylines for Dustin and Lucas and Will. Liked the intensity of the last two episodes and the Ball scene. Hope that poor Will is not the victim next season - we've barely seen what his real personality is

Vinnie, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

i liked this but agree it wasn't as good as s1. the chicago stuff was stupid and boring.

one scene i found hilarious even tho it was sort of frivolous and unnecessary was the douche stepbrother calling around to mike's house and the mom getting out of the bath, with donna summer soundtracking it. there was something brilliant about that scene even if it wasn't at home with the rest of the show.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

also whoever said he turns good next season is so otm. setting up the evil dad etc is a clear sign of that. i was surprised he didn't turn good this season by helping them fight something, i thought it was all set up for that.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

am i the only one disappointed we didn't really see the huge tentacled monster? like apart from in dream sequences and for a split-second at the end. felt a bit strange it didn't feature in any battle at all.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

i was disappointed! seemed kinda weird actually. i thought it would try to claw its way out of the gate. meanwhile, what do Lovecraft fans think of this show?

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

nah that was a cool variation imo, much more interesting as a malevolent shadowy presence trying to push through the gate than as whatever flower-faced thing it would have turned out to be in full sunlight.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

Just your periodic reminder that humans are a plague!


Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 13:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

ugh, that's depressing.

how's life, Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:14 (seven months ago) Permalink


Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

Just finished Season 2. I agree with most of y'all that it didn't quite have the tension nor intrigue of the first series, which I guess is to be expected, since there are certain bits from S1 that just can't be replicated. Like when Barb gets pulled under and winds up in a swimming pool, which gives the first hint of there being an evil parallel dimension, or when Joyce and Hopper walk through the Byers house in the Upside Down, causing the lights to flicker as they pass through, which makes a bunch of scenes from earlier on make more sense. But more than that I think S1 had that mystery of how far the writers were willing to go, not knowing if this was a one-off series or if it was something that would be brought back. You don't know what's off the table. Watching Season 2, you already know Season 3's in development, so when say Hopper goes underground and gets choked out by hell vines, you know that someone's going to come by and rescue him just in the nick of time. It also kinda kills the tension in a plot device that gets telegraphed early on, which is the potential necessity of sacrificing Will to defeat a greater evil (it was a little odd how none of the characters recognize this until the very end) - at no point does it really feel like that's a possibility. I guess killing off Bob was sort of an act of good faith, though even that seems a bit obvious in retrospect - he had no real backstory, it wasn't really clear how him and Joyce hooked up, and he has no relation with anyone else, besides maybe being sort of a future version of the kids, though the AV Club guy already plays that role. (Plus, you kind of figure Joyce and Hopper are getting together somehow)

That said I still thought it was pretty great. I wasn't huge on the California kids, though Billy had that great scene with Mike & Nancy's Mom which made his character worthwhile. Thought it was a lot funnier and more self-aware, for better or worse - love Dustin telling Mike's Dad that he's completely worthless, though Max going on about how the plot had "no originality" felt a little too on-the-nose, I was afraid she was going to start referencing the specific movies the show borrowed from. All in all pretty good, though a bit disappointed that the climax of the final episode was, once again, El yelling at something until it went away, it's like deus ex machina twice in a row now.

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 20:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

I like how this season actually gives Steve both a proper arc and something to do. He’s Brand from the Goonies now*.

*even tho Billy is the shitty older sibling shown lifting weights on a home bench and is distracted by what his adolescent family member is getting up to

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 22 November 2017 21:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

btw how did Bob know that the monster dogs would be repelled by water? lucky guess er what?

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 22:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

He remembered that that tunnels avoided bodies of water -- recognizing that helped him figure out that the drawings were a map of the town.

Nancy sure wears a lot of layers this season.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

Eleven dressed in Dave Vanian from The Damned cosplay was pretty funny

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 November 2017 15:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

I'm about five episodes into this and weirdly lacking the compulsion to continue. There's this really frustrating habit that US TV series have of hooking all their characters into a pattern of doing basically nothing for the first few episodes of every season.

Matt DC, Thursday, 23 November 2017 16:12 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yes, it's very annoying, especially if you are starting a new series and want to know if it's going to be worth your time or not.

Fox Mulder, FYI (dog latin), Thursday, 23 November 2017 16:18 (seven months ago) Permalink

The narrative structure is def the worst thing about this season

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Thursday, 23 November 2017 16:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Just watched this. Liked it a lot. Worth it for the kids + el, the mum, nancy and jonathan and hopper imo. Tunnels/dungeon! Smoke monster. Demodogs.

Chicago punk gang scenes ... did not work for me. I get that they were going for: The Warriors, 80s movie punks, Akira; not sure why we needed a reference to Barbelith and King Mob though and the acting was not good. In my mind an 80s street gang should sort of resemble that Billy character; loads of mullets and hairspray and open shirts, not actual mohawks? Living in a warehouse and standing around a burning trashcan fair enough.

I guess the stylistic and narrative break just wasn't very well handled

Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 17 December 2017 18:26 (six months ago) Permalink

Possibly something to do with Hawkins, like Twin Peaks, being not quite a 'location' as we would normally mean the term but ... something else?

Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 17 December 2017 18:34 (six months ago) Permalink

Watched all of season one today its good it references many things and all the actors look like other actors from other things it made me feel good it's good

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 01:37 (five months ago) Permalink

Like idk if you guys heard about this

I would have read the thread but -and I love the guy you know I do- tuomas takes are just so so bad and there was a few right off the bat and I couldnt

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 01:39 (five months ago) Permalink

maybe it's cuz I don't watch a whole lot of TV but the whole John Hughes-meets-Alien vibe of this feels pretty unique in that it succeeds in both counts. thought it was cool that the last ep of the 2nd series could just kick the paranormal shit for a while and still be really watchable

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 14:53 (five months ago) Permalink

It's really more of a two Stephens vibe tbh

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 15:42 (five months ago) Permalink

I mean....really really

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 15:42 (five months ago) Permalink

i was mega-stoke for S2 after finishing S1 but have not been able to muster up ANY enthusiasm for it now that it's here. been trying to pin down why this is and haven't really cracked it

felt the same about the first two seasons of the Homecoming podcast

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 15:44 (five months ago) Permalink

you should watch it, it's really good.

akm, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 16:00 (five months ago) Permalink

dmac u shld watch s2 u mite like it

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 16:52 (five months ago) Permalink

season 2 is solidly meh

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:41 (five months ago) Permalink

That's ok life is solidly meh but it's worth catching once

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:42 (five months ago) Permalink

I thought S1 was better if only because you really didn't know how far they were going to take it - if you don't know there's going to be a second season it makes you feel like everything's on the table. The ending of the first season is so extreme that it's hard to imagine a second one even existing. I kinda felt the same way...like why even watch this, what's left to do. S2 had some unnecessary parts (That One Episode with Eleven, Max's older brother, probably Max herself), and I thought the subplot with Dart was kinda dumb, because characters developing weird obsessions that cause them to lie to everyone and endanger their safety is one of my least favorite tropes. But as a whole it was very good. I love how Steve transforms from an unlikeable jerk to arguably the show's best character by the end.

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:55 (five months ago) Permalink

u cant compare everything to yr first time frogs

itll never be the same

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:58 (five months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

My older kid binged it on night one, but my wife and younger one have been catching up on season 2. Me, I've been popping in and out, but boy does this season seem like a few episodes of story padded out to whatever this runs. So much filler, scenes that go on twice as long as they should, and so on.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 00:48 (four months ago) Permalink

Same for the first season, I thought! For me it only cohered in the last 2-3 episodes. I haven’t seen the 2nd yet.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Ugh, just saw the ultra campy Chicago episode. And the melodrama across the board, it's just killing me. Plus these dum-dums are all acting like none of this shit has happened before. So much "Will!?!? Will!?!?! What's wrong, Will!?!?" Dudes (and mom), you remember he was abducted into another dimension and tormented by some evil creature, right?

My favorite half-assery might have been when they laid the meat lure for the demon dogs but then had to clearly wait for night - and the fog to roll in - to disguise the special effects. The biggest surprise for me in season 2 has been Steve, who is portrayed as a dude who would hate this show and resents being stuck in it. "Aliens" references through the roof in this one, too, but the execution is largely "Critters" level.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:46 (four months ago) Permalink

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