A thread for Armando Iannucci's VEEP

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Do we think this is going to be good? I'm sort of interested.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:34 (seven years ago) link

I'm pretty excited! I've seen a bunch of good early hype and trailer looks lolz

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:39 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, same. I'm intrigued by this and by the one with Jeff Daniels they keep showing previews for.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:40 (seven years ago) link

also, i've been craving a sharp, vulgar, + irreverent political sitcom

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:43 (seven years ago) link

Ianucci. Not sure Americans can swear quite like this though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk75R9uTMmo

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:44 (seven years ago) link

It's true , I was worried when I heard there would be Americans involved in this, they always seem to ruin things

Acute puppy syndrome (admrl), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:54 (seven years ago) link

"Afternoon, ladies. I heard there were sandwiches and I'm a fucker for cress. No, no, no, please don't get up - I'm not Viagra. Geoffrey, good to see you. John, how are you doing? I just wanted to tell you I really enjoyed your novel ... way of writing a fucking awful story."

jed_, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:00 (seven years ago) link

he's written some great american characters like Linton Barwick

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:01 (seven years ago) link

also thought anna chlumsky (My Girl!) was really good in the movie and she's gonna be in this

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:03 (seven years ago) link

Haha a fucker for cress. I bet Veep won't have anything close to that. Also THick Of It>>>>In The Loop, right?

Acute puppy syndrome (admrl), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:03 (seven years ago) link

Jamie otm

aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:07 (seven years ago) link

When will it be possible to acquire the first episode?

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:16 (seven years ago) link

tmmrw night i think

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:17 (seven years ago) link

Sunday Night.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:17 (seven years ago) link

right, that's what i meant

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:19 (seven years ago) link

lol, i thought it was saturday already

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:19 (seven years ago) link

Thanks. Monday torrent viewings looking very nice for the next few months then; this, GoT and Mad Men.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:19 (seven years ago) link

there's a pretty bustling thread about another HBO sitcom happening on sundays

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:20 (seven years ago) link

The recently completed Eastbound? Or am I missing something?

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:22 (seven years ago) link

GIRLS

Acute puppy syndrome (admrl), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:23 (seven years ago) link

the infection spreads

Mordy, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:24 (seven years ago) link

Never heard of it, but damn that's a long thread.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:29 (seven years ago) link

THick Of It>>>>In The Loop, right?

Yes, but I thought the americans had the funniest parts of In The Loop, so I'm optimistic.

abcfsk, Saturday, 21 April 2012 07:52 (seven years ago) link

i saw the first three episodes of this, it's very good

max, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:42 (seven years ago) link

it's not as good as the thick of it, mostly because there's no hilarious sweary malcolm tucker character, but i loled several times

max, Saturday, 21 April 2012 13:43 (seven years ago) link

I'm looking forward to this, especially if it doesn't prove another example of a gifted satirist who sets his eyes on America but quickly reveals he knows little about this country.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 April 2012 14:13 (seven years ago) link

Yeah now that you mention it, I'm glad there was a thread for this before one for The Dictator.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 21 April 2012 14:37 (seven years ago) link

I didn't realize the Thick of it Connection. I just liked the look of a trailer but now I realize that I probably should watch that movie. I'd forgotten about it after the comedy poll.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Saturday, 21 April 2012 16:33 (seven years ago) link

Not quite In The Loop funny, but it was pretty good. I don't know if it would be possible to have two characters as funny as Malcolm Tucker and the eff-star-star-cunt American from ITL.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 23 April 2012 04:56 (seven years ago) link

Some thudding moments here and there, but this was pretty funny overall.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 04:57 (seven years ago) link

Julia Louis-Dreyfus is great, as are Anna Chlumsky and the slimeball. The press secretary and her body man could wear thin.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 23 April 2012 04:59 (seven years ago) link

this seemed sort of ... off. it's an interesting decision to have the passive-aggressive dweeb kid instead of a malcolm tucker figure but ... i dunno

thomp, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:14 (seven years ago) link

maybe in three or four episodes i will stop automatically comparing it to the thick of it, and then i will also stop automatically trying to make the differences be emblematic of differences in national character

max

i. do they keep up the 'did the president call?' 'no' 'no' and the 'did you know i have my own flag' bits
ii. do they get funny and how many repetitions does it take for them to get funny

thomp, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:16 (seven years ago) link

would honestly stick w/ this just for tony hale & matt walsh but i was ok w/ those 'jokes'

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:20 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i laughed. i'll watch until they cancel it.

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:22 (seven years ago) link

no i mean i honestly believe, given time, those 'jokes' will become funny

thomp, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:23 (seven years ago) link

this is fine, it's not remotely as good as the early thick of it but it's doubtful anything else is going to be, certainly within the pro forma confines of the american sitcom

felt very "ooh, handheld cameras, gratuitous cursing, big fuckin deal" to me, but still pretty funny and a good cast, will watch again

Poor Turrican (some dude), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:31 (seven years ago) link

lol well in 2k12 those things are pretty commonplace no?

feel like american sitcom is a more expansive genre than british sitcom -- one of the weird things about the thick of it is that it is an absolutely classical version of standard british sitcom setup, only it somehow escapes being awful

xpost ha yeah i don't really notice those things at this point?

thomp, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:34 (seven years ago) link

well yeah that's what i meant, the look/feel of it is kind of played imo

Poor Turrican (some dude), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:36 (seven years ago) link

that's an unplayable aesthetic

I think it needs time to develop side characters. People like Blinky Ben, etc...

There's also a different dynamic from The Thick of It. Everyone listened to/was scared of Malcolm, and the politicians tended to need to be shepherded around. JLD seems to have all the agency in Veep, where everyone else is just scrambling to fix her mistakes or get her what she wants.

Also the US doesn't have an equivalent of the civil servant, so we don't get a Terri.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:04 (seven years ago) link

you guys realize this isn't an adaptation, right, it's a different show by the same creator

Poor Turrican (some dude), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:14 (seven years ago) link

original title was "The Veep of It" iirc

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:17 (seven years ago) link

the thick of eep

Poor Turrican (some dude), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:18 (seven years ago) link

In the Veep

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:20 (seven years ago) link

ah, british humour.

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:21 (seven years ago) link

some dude is british?

Oh yeah right, thanks !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 17 May 2019 19:23 (three months ago) link

She’s arguably the only NORMAL person in there.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 17 May 2019 19:24 (three months ago) link

Poor Gary
When you listen to rumour you 'rue' 'more'...

kinder, Sunday, 19 May 2019 19:07 (three months ago) link

Some articles have pointed out that the Tom Hanks thing in the last episode is a callback to a joke in the first episode, where Mike wonders if a big news story like Tom Hanks dying might be a good distraction from a Selina gaffe. Also, I love that they used a movie excerpt from "The Money Pit" (alongside "A League of Their Own" "Forrest Gump") in the tribute..."Bachelor Party" would have been too ridiculous.

Someone mentioned the Michael Corleone vibe, with which I totally agree. It also reminded me of the devastating ending of "The Grifters."

I'm rewatching the last season, and a few things earlier in the season are made apparent after knowing what happens in the finale:
* Selina makes a list of all the people she doesn't want to be at her funeral, and they ALL end up attending.
* Selina selling Gary out is foreshadowed:
Minna: Selina, if you go to prison, you will not have your Gary to clean up after you.
Gary: No, I'll be there.

The whole finale was pretty solid, but in particular I loved:
* When both Kent and Marjorie break their stone-faces and lose their shit on separate occasions over Jonah being the VP pick

* "No such place, ma'am. The concept of hell is a cultural memory of pre-Mosaic child sacrifice among proto-Judean peoples." And Kent mentioning Euler's number! (And of course, pronouncing "Euler" correctly.)

* "They say experience is the best teacher, and although my own daughter never learned to ride well..."

ernestp, Sunday, 19 May 2019 22:34 (three months ago) link

I haven’t been funny since 1986

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Monday, 20 May 2019 08:02 (three months ago) link

So Iannucci is doing Veep in space starring Tom James M.D.?

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 18:44 (three months ago) link

I've only started watching the show a few weeks ago and it'll be a while until I get through the finale so my thread reading is going to be delayed, buuuuut..

I love the running gag of occasional episodes where the shtick is "oh no, Veep is horny again"

mh, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:40 (two months ago) link

(regardless of her position I mentally refer to Selina, the title character, as "Veep")

mh, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 19:40 (two months ago) link

*points to screen and whispers* “that’s Veep”

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 21:48 (two months ago) link

of course Toby Huss shows up on the southern birthday episode

it takes a real Iowan to play a fake southerner

mh, Thursday, 6 June 2019 23:49 (two months ago) link

i thought this last season was hilarious. just finished it ten minutes ago and i'm sad already that it's over.

Mordy, Friday, 14 June 2019 03:43 (two months ago) link

i laughed so many times

“i abhor violence of any type but i have seen plenty of blow him up looks”

andy daly was quietly hilarious.

Mordy, Friday, 14 June 2019 03:43 (two months ago) link

I've been rewatching the final season because I wasn't satisfied and thought I might have missed something and it actually is better than the first time around.
I guess I was just expecting too much.
I still think it's less funny than the previous seasons but I enjoy more the darker/ott nihilist tone now and consider it was certainly the best way to end this show.
That Beyonce line is all time.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 14 June 2019 09:20 (two months ago) link

I'm with Mordy. Thought this season was much funnier than the couple that preceded it.

groovypanda, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:12 (two months ago) link

There were some great moments in this season and a great way to end it but nothing quite beats Richard Splet at the fertility clinic.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 14 June 2019 10:23 (two months ago) link

Richard is a top character for sure

mh, Friday, 14 June 2019 14:14 (two months ago) link

love splett, not sure he'd be the greatest president, but i guess a well-meaning simpleton is better than any of the vicious and corrupt alternatives

old cloud yells at man (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 June 2019 14:29 (two months ago) link

I wish he was the real Iowa lieutenant governor or governor

lol

mh, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:17 (two months ago) link

Maybe there could be a dog president.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:34 (two months ago) link

couldn't be worse than etc etc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 June 2019 15:42 (two months ago) link

If you think Richard's a simpleton you haven't been paying enough attention - isn't it established he has two Yale doctorates? One of them is definitely veterinary medicine.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:45 (two months ago) link

Also there's a reason why Catherine and Marjorie want his genes.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 June 2019 15:46 (two months ago) link

he has some skills, but he also is kinda incapable of processing things happening directly in front of his face.

old cloud yells at man (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 June 2019 15:58 (two months ago) link

isn't it established he has two Yale doctorates?

I always thought that was part of the joke, the same way Ed Helms on The Office is always held up as a business wiz because he went to Cornell.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:00 (two months ago) link

Yeah I’m not sure he’s done anything that required skills throughout the series !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:04 (two months ago) link

he can chop wood!

old cloud yells at man (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:04 (two months ago) link

Eheh the campaign tv spot with jonah chopping wood (with some editing).

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:07 (two months ago) link

it's an established plot point that splett wrote his doctorate on election recount procedures in the west: he demonstrates the knowledge in an episode. it's also not meant to be a joke that he has a veterinary science doctorate. the interesting thing with the splett character is that he is that qualified but is very happy to be the underling fetching things, but then also is comfortable with the mantle of power when it arrives

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:09 (two months ago) link

A favorite Splett line is: “I feel like that classic scene in Heat with Robert De Niro and Amy Brenneman.”

... (Eazy), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:12 (two months ago) link

*like I’m in

... (Eazy), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:13 (two months ago) link

it's an established plot point that splett wrote his doctorate on election recount procedures in the west: he demonstrates the knowledge in an episode. it's also not meant to be a joke that he has a veterinary science doctorate. the interesting thing with the splett character is that he is that qualified but is very happy to be the underling fetching things, but then also is comfortable with the mantle of power when it arrives

― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, June 14, 2019 11:09 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the joke is that those are two wildly different and wildly specific doctorates that seem useless, but because fortune favors the splett, they both came in handy

old cloud yells at man (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:17 (two months ago) link

fortune favors the splett

Hah, yeah.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:21 (two months ago) link

the thing about splett isn't that he's dumb or even incapable of processing things imo, it's that he's extremely straight-forward and guileless. that can sometimes mean that he doesn't notice (or does and chooses to ignore) devious underhanded behavior from the other characters which could be read as naive.

Mordy, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:52 (two months ago) link

Although sometimes it becomes clear that he was clocking that behavior all along, but is still just happy to be there.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:53 (two months ago) link

like he didn't rat out the entire bribery machinery bc he "forest gumped" his way into it i don't think - like dan tries to smooth it over when the reporter asks him but splett says "no this is a fair question" (or something like that). i think he's just really honest + a good person and in DC that scans as stupid but it shouldn't.

Mordy, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:57 (two months ago) link

Him supporting Jonah was as odd a development as Amy's sudden heel turn, but I just went with it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:58 (two months ago) link

jonah is an old friend of his it didn't seem out of character to me at all

Mordy, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:00 (two months ago) link

splett is a candide character; his intelligence/guile is mostly beside the point

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:21 (two months ago) link

Splett's intelligent but hilariously naive in a way that makes him more open-minded than every other character

it's referenced a few times about how his family was religious and somewhat controlling but it doesn't seem to have stuck. the entire artificial insemination subplot starts with him saying something about masturbation being a horrible sin and how his mother (maybe grandmother?) told him there'd be terrible consequences but when he's told it's actually fine he's on board as a sperm donor

then when the pregnancy actually happens he says something like "well, I guess I don't have to do that ever again"

mh, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:57 (two months ago) link

"self-husbandry"

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:58 (two months ago) link

oh god, I forgot the moment where he has the epiphany that his aunt is actually his mother and has almost no reaction, in his trademark "oh, that makes sense" way

mh, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:01 (two months ago) link

Jonah is an old friend, but to be naive even to the point of looking past his old friend's extreme racism, islamophobia, etc. etc, just because he is an old friend, transcends naive. Admittedly, in the service of comedy!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 June 2019 19:17 (two months ago) link

splett is a candide character

yes otm

then when the pregnancy actually happens he says something like "well, I guess I don't have to do that ever again"

goddammit I am NOT going to go back and watch the season and a half of American episodes that I dipped out on, and there is no Splettnet supercut for that year

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 14 June 2019 21:49 (two months ago) link

someone should make a splett reel for the good of humanity

mh, Friday, 14 June 2019 23:08 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

I watched season 1 when it came out but wasn't really into it, though now I've been catching up -- just started season 5, and whoo boy DOCTOR Splett is a thing!

The studious lack of partisanship is weird, though, for what I'd assume would be satire; instead the underlying message is more in line with "everyone is bad and/or self-serving."

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 00:36 (one month ago) link

which, in a way, is a much more honest take than a certain Sorkin show

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 16:31 (one month ago) link

Ok a Jonah/ Splett ticket would be one that I’d commit voter fraud for, I’m not even kidding.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Thursday, 25 July 2019 04:18 (one month ago) link

Jonah immediately going off script to be belligerent and the entire wife/sister thing is so good

untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 25 July 2019 14:15 (one month ago) link

I'm still waiting for that one intern who was fired for the data breach to exact her pound of flesh.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Friday, 2 August 2019 20:39 (three weeks ago) link

Finished the sixth season. It's weird that as awful as Selina is, I still find myself rooting for her.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 21:08 (two weeks ago) link


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