On Your Marks, Get Set, Baaaaake! A Thread for Great British Baking Show / Bake Off & all of its sundry delights

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My knowledge only covers Netflix US-aired seasons which are the English Bake Off seasons 4/5/6 (it's confusing I know)

Let us now discuss Russet Gandalfs, bread lions, genoese sponges & why you dont throw your baked alaska in the bin

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:43 (four years ago) link

S1 - Nancy is a BOSS i love her
Scottish Norman is adorable
Russet Gandalf Ian <3

S2 - Ruby is my fave
Kimberly is a genius
Frances is lovely but her teeth scare me
Howard <3

s3 NADIYA FOREVER but seriously I have seem this season 3 times and i love it so much, they're all lovely esp Matt the Fireman

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:53 (four years ago) link

sue & mel are grate i love them

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 01:43 (four years ago) link

so weird seeing it called "baking show", it's like calling 30 rock "television building"

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 01:53 (four years ago) link

not thrilled about it either, trying not to dwell

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:24 (four years ago) link

soz

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:33 (four years ago) link

lol no its cool *rages-*

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:34 (four years ago) link

Great British Flour & Sugar Hour

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:35 (four years ago) link

gifs i have loved

King Luis

http://goodtoknow.media.ipcdigital.co.uk/111/000012e0d/6079/Luis.gif

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:43 (four years ago) link

Norman the Scot & his adorable semaphore

http://tvdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/norman.gif

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:47 (four years ago) link

We have all been this Dorrett

http://i.imgur.com/kBUntMB.gif

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:49 (four years ago) link

The Dorrett thing is SO SAD

I always scream when people drop their food, or like a layer falls off the top off a cake - I don't know why, it makes me really nervous, like watching a small child on a really tall climbing frame.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 09:13 (four years ago) link

Mr Veg found the first 3 seasons of Bake-Off for me on the t0rentz

Season 1 format is rather different! The tent travels round to different cities, they eliminate 2 bakers each episode, and Sue and Mel do a lot of 'history of the biscuit' 'history of the cake' interstitial stuff during challenges so it's not 100% baking heavy the way it is now. Which isn't great, cuts too much into the baking which is the best part. Also episode 1 inside the tent was shot very jumpily, and not very well light, so it wasn't nearly as colorful as it quickly became in the next episode. Thankfully they fixed that pretty quick.
Mary Berry's hair is very flat!
Bakers call out to the judges and ask how much time is left!
And there's some dude doing the voiceover which is v weird.

Favorite moment so far was Ep 1 with Sue sitting on a blanket inside a stone ring with an eccentric-voiced longhaired baking historian discussing bannocks and I have NO idea how she sat through that without bursting into gales of laughter. I wish I could find a photo of him.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2017 02:12 (four years ago) link

oh and:
signature bakes are a little bit looser: bake any kind of cake, bake any kind of biscuit
technicals so far have been basics like victoria sponges or scones, but the bakers are given the ingredients only: no method at all

and there's a weird little canteen area in back where bakers can go up and ask for items, one lady ran over and asked for double cream.

it's kind of fun seeing how it's all evolved!

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2017 02:15 (four years ago) link

god the showstoppers are out of control on S1

SIX different types of bread rolls, half a dozen each! 3 savory, 3 sweet

SIX canapes, 3 savory, 3 sweet, half a dozen each!

Three puddings: suet, baked, crumble!

they must have drowned in leftovers, holy shit

i would have ptsd after these

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2017 05:55 (four years ago) link

it is crazy how good this show is at building flopsweat tension around some of the lowest stakes imaginable

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 6 March 2017 11:47 (four years ago) link

Every week has the "are they going to complete this in time for the judges" montage before the end of the round, and ALMOST EVERY TIME it's completely fine, and yet it worries me every single episode

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 6 March 2017 14:57 (four years ago) link

totally!! it's a very chill show compared to top chef etc but I still get stressed out

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2017 16:40 (four years ago) link

s1 almost done

- can't STAND ruth and it makes me feel bad bc shes a good baker etc. idk. buu her stupid "boy bait" pudding and making quiche for the finale "for the men" it's like she's pandering to paul and it drives me barmy

-they have clearly done some work reigning in paul bc he was a borderline WANKER in this season. key moment: dismissed ruth's cupcakes as too girly AS THE ONLY MAN ON A PANEL OF WOMEN!! and farting on about stuff looking commercial & professional ragh i love him now but i could slap him almost once every episode

- mary berry telling miranda she reminded her of hrself when she was young <3 that would make my life

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:35 (four years ago) link

S2 report:

Next to Tamal, Rob is the most beautiful creature I have seen in this show so far

*dies*

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 05:00 (four years ago) link

though I would have eloped with Keith in college imo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 05:03 (four years ago) link

Hi! I'm watching the Netflix season now, and it's so refreshing watching a reality competition without any producer-mandated villains.

Also, I forget who said it, but when I heard somebody mention "roasted veg" I got a good chuckle.

Also also I have a crush on Kate.

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:10 (four years ago) link

Like she is more Captain Chaos than Jordan ever was.

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:11 (four years ago) link

Also also also I decided to put closed captions on because SO MANY ACCENTS, but even with the subtitles, I still have no clue what the contestants are talking about.

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:12 (four years ago) link

Kate is v cool but def has captain chaos tendencies

Though lets be real, the *true* Captain Chaos is Jordan Crazy Teeth

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 March 2017 23:57 (four years ago) link

Maybe Jordan didn't last long enough to impress his chaos on me, but with Kate, she's up one week, then down the next, then oh noes her dough is still raw and yet she ends up in second place anyway! She is a roller coaster!

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Friday, 10 March 2017 02:41 (four years ago) link

I dunno I just picture Jordan covered head to foot in flour with a saucepan burning in the background

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 03:29 (four years ago) link

Kate's hair fascinated me. Like this amazing curly braided amazingness. And she seemed like she'd be cool to hang out with

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 03:31 (four years ago) link

Speaking of hair, Chetna's haircut is soooo stylish, love it.

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Friday, 10 March 2017 19:38 (four years ago) link

yes! also her grey is so good

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 19:55 (four years ago) link

Chetna was my baking crush

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:37 (four years ago) link

Russet Gandalf was p cute but I think I kiiiind of fancy Richard? Dimples + pencil behind the ear is a winning combo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:41 (four years ago) link

and i have a girlcrush on Nancy. She's saucy

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:42 (four years ago) link

It's only natural that the Queen of Spices has pepper in her hair! xxxps

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:54 (four years ago) link

Very distracted by Deborah and those pictures of her husband and child which are just really hard to make sense of given her apparent age.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:07 (four years ago) link

And why are there only photos to show? Did she steal someone else's photos like she steals ingredients??

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:09 (four years ago) link

dude that's pretty ageist & mean

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:46 (four years ago) link

I mean yeah, sorry...but...don't you wonder about people's lives? There's a story there.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:13 (four years ago) link

there's a differemce between "wondering" & "side-eyeing"

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:41 (four years ago) link

I finished Season 2 of English bake off & it's pretty marvellous

Jo's such a love - bubbly but terrified, Essex mum finally doing "something for herself". I read online that her husband was doing 16 years in jail for money laundering at the time. Which just made me love her more. she seemed like she mightve had a hard life & that confirmed it

and MaryAnne!! What a treat. Rugby champion, baking historian, mum, wizard. Amazing. She has a book!

Janet was hilarious - mr veg said her facial expressions reminded him of Beaker from the muppets

lots of great women in this season.

As for the guys -

dreamboat Rod turned out to be a bit of a disaster, very disorganized, bit too cavalier. he definitely put the wind up Paul, I've never seen the silver fox come down on a baker like he did with Rod.

sweet baby Jason had sooooooo much potential, very talented for one so young but was just a tad too green for the big leagues. Definitely fun to watch though.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:52 (four years ago) link

I just finished the Chetna season! I really admired Richard for his ability to laugh at himself, and it was sad to see him crumble in the last week, though I would've been fine with any of the final three winning. (When they showed a picture of a young Richard with a full head of hair, I can see why Veg might crush on him!)

One episode into the next season, and watching Ruby struggle with her lack of self-confidence is so painful (I empathize with her completely), I'm not sure I can handle a whole season's worth (I caught a random episode of this season on PBS and know she hangs around for at least a little while).

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:59 (four years ago) link

Rubes is one of my favorites, I love her so much.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:01 (four years ago) link

She looks like the daughter of Saffron Burrows and Elizabeth Berkeley, plus her look of utter astonishment when she was Star Baker in bread week was lolz.

That aside, this cast is so much less likeable than the previous one! So many stubborn people and/or people whose insecurities are showing. :(

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 03:48 (four years ago) link

Yeah... it grew on me though. Francis is kind of a crazy sorcerer with her amazing showstoppers, i'm in awe of her creativity

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 03:56 (four years ago) link

Slight crush on Kimberley from that season. And Howard is all-time great.

Richard had a weird Martin Freeman vibe, I thought

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 11:40 (four years ago) link

(in a good way)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 11:40 (four years ago) link

I wrote a tl:dr blog post about GBBO for my own amusement...

http://tourdefrump.blogspot.com/2017/03/perfection-failure-and-why-great.html

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 March 2017 03:10 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/mar/16/noel-fielding-and-sandi-toksvig-to-host-new-great-british-bake-off

Noel Fielding and Sandi Toksvig to host new Great British Bake Off

New presenters will join new judge Prue Leith and Bake Off stalwart Paul Hollywood in the Channel 4 version of the show

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:38 (four years ago) link

That should kill it off then.

Ongar Is An Energy (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:49 (four years ago) link

That was certainly the way they presented it. Lots of focusing on her pouring copious amounts of oil in while claiming this was something she learned in bread week.

Alba, Saturday, 27 November 2021 12:58 (one week ago) link

In retrospect, the whole episode was presented as Giuseppe's via dolorosa to make his victory seem more earned and dramatic; equally, the moment where Chrystelle was poking at the oily dish in the oven was the signal for the focaccia calamity.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 27 November 2021 13:06 (one week ago) link

i feel like chrystelle was absolutely bound to win this if she didn't shit the bed, but she did. i would love an explanation about what happened with the raw focaccia and am not seeing anything online yet?

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 November 2021 17:50 (one week ago) link

true crime podcast about what tf happened to crystelle's foccacia

— thiziri (taylor’s version) (@thizbous) November 23, 2021

Alba, Saturday, 27 November 2021 18:11 (one week ago) link

chrystelle’s foccaccia i felt like it should not have been cooked in that deep ceramic dish, at a guess maybe oven too low & took on the oil as it was baking, also it didnt seem that it had risen much during prooving

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:25 (one week ago) link

Didn't she say she was only baking it for 15 min? Wtf, it's truly mind-bending.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:28 (one week ago) link

Anyway I'm happy that justice prevailed in the end.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:29 (one week ago) link

xpost lol i missed that, that’d do it O_o

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 November 2021 21:35 (one week ago) link

Yeah but she’ll have practised it many times. In fact she says as much on her IG post. I can believe her that it’s a mystery why it failed on the day, but what I can’t get my head around is how she seemed to have no inkling it had happened until the judges cut the bread. I’m not a baker, but wouldn’t you be at least concerned about whether it has been in long enough or not? Stick a toothpick in or something? Maybe I missed that, or maybe it was left out in editing.

Mind you, I also couldn’t believe Giuseppe was leaving his Belgian buns in longer when even my view of them through the oven door was enough to make me remark “err, they look too brown already”.

Alba, Sunday, 28 November 2021 01:51 (one week ago) link

She stuck a thermometer in and said it was hot enough, but maybe that was just the boiling oil?

Yeah the burnt buns thing was weird too, nerves I guess.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 28 November 2021 02:40 (one week ago) link

Also she appears to have responded to every single comment on that IG post (!).

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 28 November 2021 02:43 (one week ago) link

that's apparently her thing, which makes sense given the brand she's building.

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 November 2021 15:34 (one week ago) link

Chrystelle, seems nice, was a good contestant, happy for her to do whatever

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 29 November 2021 19:10 (one week ago) link

I'm usually fine with whoever wins in the finale but G is probably the first baker whom I was actively rooting for.

Also, while I think I'm more fond of Noel than some people here, I think the fact that Giuseppe was the only one who kissed the spatula is only going to encourage him.

Nelleee Hooper (Leee), Monday, 29 November 2021 20:42 (one week ago) link

oh they'll be selling Mr Spatulas before too long

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 November 2021 20:43 (one week ago) link

Noel did have a weirdly aggressive vibe at times this season, but Matt is so much more obnoxious and unfunny.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 29 November 2021 20:49 (one week ago) link

Noel is redeemed by a capacity for empathy which Matt just doesn’t possess, even though at times you can see he’s striving for it.

mike t-diva, Monday, 29 November 2021 21:38 (one week ago) link

Yes otm!

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 29 November 2021 21:46 (one week ago) link

really great finish imho, i was very on board for the entire final four and thought any of them would have made a terrific winner. makes it feel like one of the strongest casts of all the seasons i've seen. if it weren't for Crystelle's raw dough i do think she could have possibly taken it, but how could anyone possibly begrudge the adorable, hardworking and extremely skilled Giuseppe making his family proud??? ;_;

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Monday, 29 November 2021 22:14 (one week ago) link

I'm sort of disgusted with myself for finding Chrystelle disingenuous but the feeling persists. I think Noel, not exactly the model of perspicacity, was otm when he teased her about wanting it so bad it hurts.
Can someone release me from feeling guilty about this?
Anyway, I'm team Giuseppe, all the way.

― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, November 20, 2021 3:34 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

i’m rewatching the semifinal and this bit by noel was soooo good and cutting

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 December 2021 01:36 (four days ago) link

It's okay to be a in a competition and want to win, though!

Competitiveness ≠ narcissism

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:46 (four days ago) link

agreed!

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:27 (four days ago) link

Oz version starts on monday afternoon and is daily (for i guess 2 weeks)

koogs, Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:19 (four days ago) link

i thought this was interesting
https://www.vulture.com/article/great-british-bake-off-finale-anti-brexit-metaphor.html

Let’s start with an incontrovertible fact: This was a very English season of Bake Off. For the first time since 2011, there were no Scottish, Welsh, or Northern Irish bakers in the tent. Thus, unlike a typical season of Bake Off, its story was not about the constituent parts of the U.K. coming together to make a glorious whole. Instead, this would be a season about England, the former imperial heartland that led the charge for Leave, and its relationship to Europe and the rest of the world.

In place of the token Scottish or Welsh baker, the exotic color this season came courtesy of two contestants who loomed above the rest: the Italian Giuseppe and the German Jürgen. Both were products of a pre-Brexit age, Europeans who had made lives in England as adults, and they absolutely dominated the opening stretch, taking home five of the first seven Star Baker honors. Jürgen and Giuseppe were not just great bakers, they also made for great TV, each comfortably slotting into innocuous national stereotypes: Jürgen was rational and soft-spoken, a bit like a Teutonic teddy bear; Giuseppe was more animated, with wild curls and the world’s only flattering soul patch. Their beautiful, technically flawless bakes were the dream of the European Coal and Steel Community made flesh dough — two former wartime enemies seamlessly integrated into the most cozily British scenario imaginable. Even the incessant accent jokes from hosts Noel Fielding and Matt Lucas carried less of an edge than they might have in decades past. Here it felt like family banter, a vision of the U.K. still firmly knitted into the European fabric.

Which is not to say that the English bakers got short shrift. There was Lizzie, a colorful Liverpudlian whose Scouse gumption made her a fan favorite. Another standout, Freya from Yorkshire, was not just a glimpse of the future — she’s both Gen Z and a vegan — but also the past: In name and hairstyle, she was a spectral reanimation of the Northeast’s thousand-year-old history as the Viking colony of Jórvík. Contrast them to Maggie, this season’s token Little Englander, an archetype that usually does well on Bake Off. But not this time. While Maggie was pitched as a doppelgänger for judge Prue Leith — yes, the same Prue whose son is a pro-Brexit MP — it was of course hard to avoid thinking of another figure from British political history. When she forgot to add the flour to her sticky toffee pudding, there was no alternative: The lady was not for (re)turning.

Here’s another incontrovertible fact: Four of the first five bakers eliminated came from constituencies that voted Leave in 2016, while the top seven were all from Remain cities. The native-born bakers who went the distance all hailed from a different Britain than the Brexit ideal, a multicultural nation of casual assimilation. The middle tier this year was supplied by London’s Greek community: cheery detective Amanda and burly Cypriot George, who provided a more realistic counterpoint to the characters in Stath Lets Flats. Another Londoner, Crystelle, probably would have won the whole thing were it not for an underbaked focaccia. She was competing not just on behalf of her loving Goan family, but also an entire cohort of millennial yuppies; the woman absolutely loved miso, tahini, and yuzu. (A Goldman analyst, Crystelle also represented global finance, the less-sympathetic segment of the Remain coalition.) And her fellow finalist Chigs rarely saw his own South Asian heritage mentioned. Instead, Chigs was portrayed as the quintessential Leicester man, right down to his love of pork pies.

Last week’s grand finale put a cap on all this. After Jürgen’s shocking elimination in the semis, the season came down to Giuseppe, Crystelle, and Chigs. And what were they tasked to bake in the Technical? Perfect spiral buns from Belgium, the home of the E.U. They looked delicious. Brussels isn’t all bad.

The season ended as most would have predicted it would, with a Giuseppe victory. But after the celebrations, there was also a bittersweet note: A chyron informed viewers that the proud winner had left England and returned home to Italy. The fantasy had finally been punctured. If Britain doesn’t have room for a guy like Giuseppe, what is the point?

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 December 2021 17:00 (four days ago) link

It's not about competitiveness, it's about why they want to win. It's become such an established platform to start a career in food media, are they just in it for the insta followers? There's Crystelle, and Chigs was such an enigma to the end (I'm still weirdly fascinated by his shift to glasses, lol). It's impossible to know of course, but Guiseppe and Jurgen seemed pure of heart.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 December 2021 17:26 (four days ago) link

(maybe the glasses was like guiseppe running out of shirts)

koogs, Thursday, 2 December 2021 17:35 (four days ago) link

I sorta figured he must have run out of contacts, but then he had multiple stylish frames, so was it fashion-based or did he just plan for this contingency?!

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 December 2021 17:36 (four days ago) link

If you get in the finale and want to start a career in food media, why not? It sounds horrible going through the application process, multiple auditions, two months of shooting, constant prep, Daily Mail digging in your wastebins, etc. If you get that far, good on you - it seems like a lot of effort! Like - they've probably put in the hours by that point.

Guiseppe's writing a book - talked about it in the finale? - does that make him less "pure of heart"?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 2 December 2021 17:40 (four days ago) link

It's just a contrast between the early seasons of the show where people didn't necessarily know that they were going on a hugely watched show that would make them famous and able to make a lot of money. Nothing wrong with taking advantage of the opportunities, but Guiseppe at least was convincing in the appearance that he was doing it for personal reasons rather than becoming an influencer.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 December 2021 17:51 (four days ago) link

(I know it's naïve to think that anyone goes on any tv competition show without some desire for glory, but in the past this show has been better than most about letting the viewer suspend disbelief, which is a big part of why it was so successful in the first place?)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 December 2021 18:00 (four days ago) link

Without glasses, Chigs had kind of an intensely furrowed brow as a normal resting face. The glasses helped to either physically cover up the brow, or to prevent him from making that face in the first place (perhaps he had been squinting because he couldn't see very well). I assumed that the show made him wear them once they saw how he looked on TV. He was much more attractive with the glasses!

jaymc, Thursday, 2 December 2021 18:13 (four days ago) link

Ha I think you cracked it

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 December 2021 18:16 (four days ago) link

sans glasses he appeared to have slightly crossed/misaligned eyes, the glasses likely a corrective for that

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 December 2021 18:24 (four days ago) link

Yeah, maybe that was it.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 December 2021 18:43 (four days ago) link

It's just a contrast between the early seasons of the show where people didn't necessarily know that they were going on a hugely watched show that would make them famous and able to make a lot of money.

This is just the dynamic of all reality competitions that last for a while -- early seasons are "purer" (scare quotes are doing a LOT of heavy lifting there, because even in their infancy reality tv has always involve a lot of behind the scenes manipulation to create the naive facade), but past a certain threshold, the point of the show starts to move away from those origins (e.g. baking) and towards maintaining the show as a cultural phenomenon (GBBO). I think that latter part also explains the ever more dire time call bits and the handshake -- those things just sort of happened before but are now baked (ahem) into the show.

Nelleee Hooper (Leee), Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:15 (four days ago) link

glad chrystelle didn't win, i'm sure she's fine but her whole "WHAT?!? I WON!?!?" thing got pretty annoying given that she's obviously a very very talented baker and also looks like a model. jurgen's vibe, which could come off as smug at times, was still preferable

na (NA), Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:20 (four days ago) link

i'm really kind of surprised by all the distaste for Crystelle - i really liked her! super skilled, cool under pressure, consistently made beautiful things that i would want to eat.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:33 (four days ago) link

she works for goldman sachs ffs, she was clearly the villain of this season

adam, Thursday, 2 December 2021 21:18 (four days ago) link

I liked all three finalists, although I wouldn't want to be friends with any of them IRL.

And it feels like old fashioned sexism to say that you don't like Chrystelle because she's "trying too hard." Chigs gave up a job in sales to join the Bake Off. Guiseppe is from a family of chefs and now has a book coming out. But they're dudes, so...

Chigs is the only one who is regularly promoted to my IG. I have no idea how that algorithm works, but she hasn't been promoted to me at all, and I'm seeing a lot of him.

colette, Thursday, 2 December 2021 21:30 (four days ago) link

Crystelle is a fairly typical Habs old girl - second-gen professional middle class family, modern languages at UCL and then straight into a City job. A cool baker from a couple of seasons back, Selasi, worked for another one of the big banks.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Thursday, 2 December 2021 21:36 (four days ago) link

It's okay to be a in a competition and want to win, though!

Competitiveness ≠ narcissism

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, December 2, 2021 9:46 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don’t think she’s a narcissist at all, she grew on me immensely as the season went on (full disclosure I think she’s hot), but the striving ambition that leads one to end up being, say, a goldman analyst was pretty obvious in her manner, and I think noel picked up on that, which is what made his little needling land

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 December 2021 21:42 (four days ago) link

Noel's needling was affectionate and in good humour, can none of you Americans read English comedians at all?

Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Friday, 3 December 2021 09:45 (three days ago) link

Good humour doesn’t preclude sexism though.

Alba, Friday, 3 December 2021 10:06 (three days ago) link

yeah, the Noel/Crystelle scenes really crossed into uncomfortable for me. like she was constantly having to smile for the camera and go "seriously, dude?" at come-ons disguised as "jokes."

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 3 December 2021 12:11 (three days ago) link

I'm not saying he doesn't fancy her, but I'm not sure that she was uncomfortable with him. It did seem more along the lines of he is her annoying brother. Like, I can't believe, at this stage, that the production team would be clueless enough to leave actual harrassment in the final edit? The dynamic of the last two series has been very different from previous years, it seems to me, because they are all together all the time for weeks instead of just for a couple of days a week. But maybe I am absolutely clueless on this.

trishyb, Friday, 3 December 2021 12:57 (three days ago) link

I feel like a lot of noel's interactions during baking are quite awkward - he says the wacky thing, the baker acknowledges the wacky thing but then he lingers as though the wacky thing warrants further reaction. jurgen on more than one occasion had to shrug or ask him to go away.

conrad, Friday, 3 December 2021 13:14 (three days ago) link

Yes, I think with Jurgen that became part of the joke. Though at one point Jurgen did say he found Noel hovering a calming presence "believe it or not", but not sure if he was being serious.

Alba, Friday, 3 December 2021 13:29 (three days ago) link

There is a “laugh or I’ll shoot this puppy” quality to the reaction shots.

My secret shame about bakeoff is that I think Paul is great! His annoyingly selective palate aside, I’m always interested in what he’s going to say, enjoy watching him, and I like his apparent comfort with having the piss taken out of him constantly. Don’t really care if he’s a bit of a berk offscreen.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 3 December 2021 15:46 (three days ago) link

Oh yeah, me too. I bet he’s quite mesmerising in person.

Alba, Friday, 3 December 2021 15:49 (three days ago) link

The dynamic of the last two series has been very different from previous years, it seems to me, because they are all together all the time for weeks instead of just for a couple of days a week.

This for sure, you get the sense that you're just seeing the surface of a lot of the dynamics and inside jokes that have developed in the bubble.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 3 December 2021 15:52 (three days ago) link


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