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What the fork this isn't on until 10 pm?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 21 September 2017 00:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Watched the first season on Netflix, thought it was p good.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 September 2017 00:27 (one year ago) Permalink

netflix internationally, thank god

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 September 2017 09:54 (one year ago) Permalink

wkiw janet

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 12:49 (one year ago) Permalink

That was great, I could handle all episodes being 2 x

Nice pivot with Ted Danson - in that he's definitely the bad guy, but you still kind of want him to do a good job

Also I like the whole cast in this. And it's a great example of something that's comforting without being "cosy" (although all Schur shows inevitably end up that way)

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:18 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm very curious to see how they'll manage to keep this up for an entire season.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:38 (one year ago) Permalink

it was weird seeing danson and 'shawn' appear in back-to-back ads

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:52 (one year ago) Permalink

one of the things i really (disproportionately) love about this show is the way janet appears and disappears. they have a cgi budget, they could magic her in and out of frame with some crazy wonky effect, but they chose to use jump cuts instead. it fits so much better with the show's pacing and comedy timing.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

didn't catch season 2 opener yet but this is like, the best normal network comedy on tv in years. i watched all of season 1 in one go, which never happens.

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:29 (one year ago) Permalink

janet is so good

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:29 (one year ago) Permalink

I read some info about the s1 finale and thought "this sounds super interesting, let me watch it" and put it on in the living room while my wife (who does not follow tv crit at all) was wrangling our kids.

Five minutes into the pilot, when Eleanor is looking at the clown paintings in her house, my wife looks up and says, "Oh I get it, she's in Hell."

(I lolled.)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:51 (one year ago) Permalink

I also binged the entire season over the course of this week.

Fantastic show, and I'm very, very glad that the non-Bell/Danson cast is getting and producing work this good.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Love this show, every part of it is great.

Janet happily explaining how she's not a person gets me every time.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:11 (one year ago) Permalink

I can say without hyperbole that it is my favorite comedy discovery in a long, long while.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:14 (one year ago) Permalink

I just read that no one in the cast outside of Danson and Bell knew what the reveal was until after it was shot; apparently the two of them knew the entire season, but they kept it from the rest of the cast

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Ted Danson laugh after being found out is all time.

Frederik B, Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:34 (one year ago) Permalink

it's simple, it's not even a joke, but every single time i love janet's (puzzled) you want me to do what? (beaming) okay!

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Ugh, week to week sucks.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:44 (one year ago) Permalink

i love real eleanor / denise

na (NA), Friday, 22 September 2017 02:43 (one year ago) Permalink

i love janet

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:02 (one year ago) Permalink

janet is spectacular

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Penis flattener

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:12 (one year ago) Permalink

i want to talk about specific janet moments in series 1 but i don't think enough people here have seen it all the way through

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Butthole spiders

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:06 (one year ago) Permalink

janet with the potted cactus plants last season made me lol SO MUCH

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:23 (one year ago) Permalink

i love chidi

also every detail about anthony's irl life is so beautifully, majestically dumb & perfect.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:25 (one year ago) Permalink

double ep was v enjoyable

god this show is such a delight

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:27 (one year ago) Permalink

yessssss the whole cactus thing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 08:29 (one year ago) Permalink

wow i have to watch all this again

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 08:29 (one year ago) Permalink

i want to talk about specific janet moments in series 1 but i don't think enough people here have seen it all the way through

I always thought that the etiquette for specific show threads was that it was fine to talk about anything that has been broadcast already.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 09:51 (one year ago) Permalink

oh cool, because i want to talk about the whole arc where she and jason got married and she proclaimed love and interest for him in the most detached and mechanical and brutally honest way possible, but he bought it because he's jason

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 09:53 (one year ago) Permalink

and the cactus thing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 09:53 (one year ago) Permalink

I feel like even after just one season a character poll would be impossible

Shout out to "real Eleanor" though

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 22 September 2017 11:56 (one year ago) Permalink

if michael was all-knowing AND had watched every episode like he said then he would know that the apartment belonged to monica's grandmother and that it was rent-controlled.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 12:36 (one year ago) Permalink

look everyone loves janet, but i love the turn they're doing with "real eleanor" from being perfect in s1 to being an annoying diva in s2.
they're taking a big risk with s2 though, how it's basically incomprehensible without having watched all of s1. sitcoms usually encourage people to drop in on any episode.

na (NA), Friday, 22 September 2017 14:43 (one year ago) Permalink

would totally watch Good Janet/Bad Janet spin-off.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:16 (one year ago) Permalink

"they're taking a big risk with s2 though, how it's basically incomprehensible without having watched all of s1"

is anything really a risk anymore when you've got the binge dollars coming in? it's on netflix and hulu. and probably amazon and wherever else.

i wonder how much a network makes letting netflix show their show.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:19 (one year ago) Permalink

michael is clearly not all-knowing

mookieproof, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:20 (one year ago) Permalink

GF noted how nice it is to be gently lowered back into reality after Twin Peaks via The Good Place

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:21 (one year ago) Permalink

michael is clearly not all-knowing

honestly this is the only aspect of the show's world that bugs me, like people can have private conversations that the architects can't see or hear? this is a tiny quibble, though.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:31 (one year ago) Permalink

I interpret this as Michael not having been given the resources to properly monitor everyone, because he's working on a project his supervisors don't approve of, even though if it's successful it will really help the organization -- when everyone is torturing him or herself, you don't need such a huge staff.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:44 (one year ago) Permalink

"when everyone is torturing him or herself, you don't need such a huge staff."

uh, except for the town of people who are in on it? that's a lot of overtime.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

That's just for now, though. Initial outlay to get the project up and running.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:32 (one year ago) Permalink

honestly this is the only aspect of the show's world that bugs me

Well, they keep suggesting that Michael is actually terrible at his job, so that's seems like a good enough explanation.

My guess is that the season will work towards the gang and Michael teaming up against the larger aggressor (being Holt's husband from Brooklyn 99).

There is a typically TV critic indulgent thread on Twitter at the moment - they've decided it's a TV show about storytelling and other TV shows. I get the inclination but that is a godawful boring take on it.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:43 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm rewatching on netflix and it definitely works better as a binge. a chapter a week is fine but less satisfying.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Michael isn't supposed to be omniscient - he's the guy setting up the Sims world and letting it run.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 22 September 2017 23:17 (one year ago) Permalink

they've decided it's a TV show about storytelling and other TV shows. I get the inclination but that is a godawful boring take on it.

"Area stoner thinks everyone on TV also stoned."

trishyb, Saturday, 23 September 2017 08:10 (one year ago) Permalink

That speech Michael gave to his minions was all-time! “Sure, we could fire up the penis-flattener...”

DJI, Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Just blew through the entire series this weekend. I paid no attention to the episode count so I was shocked when I realized the first season was over.

Not much to say that hasn't already been said. It's great, and I wish I hadn't sat on it for so long. Recognizing glimmers of oneself in the main characters is kind of a 'fun' game (the familiarity of Eleanor's relationship with her coworkers stung a bit).

Gewgaws for Meemaw (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 September 2017 12:25 (one year ago) Permalink

well ppl often fail to realize the implications of powerful arguments when they start thinking that they sound like a cool way to dunk on ppl

j., Friday, 18 January 2019 16:13 (five months ago) Permalink

but he's explicitly making the argument that globalism implicates even well meaning consumers into such a web of exploitation and avarice that even nice acts are net negatives to humanity. how could that be inadvertent?

inadvertent only in the sense that the show diagnoses this as simply "modern life" and not the product of a specific set of historical processes at work. which makes sense because it's a sitcom and not an undergraduate lecture series

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 16:15 (five months ago) Permalink

likely linked upthread but all mentioned points are fairly intentional if perhaps not completely thought through
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/04/magazine/good-place-michael-schur-philosophy.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 18 January 2019 16:18 (five months ago) Permalink

torturing Shakespeare, lol

kinder, Friday, 18 January 2019 20:08 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah that was my favorite throwaway gag, besides maybe Eleanor high-fiving Jason after his iHop burn

Also, can't stop laughing at Interdimensional Hole of Pancakes, especially since the "of pancakes" part was completely unexplained

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 January 2019 21:26 (five months ago) Permalink

i laughed for two solid minutes at how harboring a non-fried vegetable is a felony in jacksonville

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 18 January 2019 21:27 (five months ago) Permalink

counterpoint, humans are garbage. limp bizkit, slavery.

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 January 2019 21:33 (five months ago) Permalink

Oh man, Michael flossing

groovypanda, Saturday, 19 January 2019 11:49 (five months ago) Permalink

Chidi’s voice when he yelps about having seen the time knife

mh, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:18 (five months ago) Permalink

Every Derek/martini moment killed. Jason Mantzoukas is consistently hilarious in every show he's on. He should be on more shows.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 19 January 2019 16:22 (five months ago) Permalink

^^ love that guy

DJI, Saturday, 19 January 2019 17:43 (five months ago) Permalink

He's even great playing the straight man in The Dictator

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:15 (five months ago) Permalink

he is a great guest judge on nailed it

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:27 (five months ago) Permalink

if u like zouks search every comedy bang bang ep he's been on; consistently hilarious dude

Mordy, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:35 (five months ago) Permalink

the chris gethard episode with mantzoukas and paul scheer is still the funniest thing i’ve ever seen

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:36 (five months ago) Permalink

See also, the How Did This Get Made? podcast.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 20 January 2019 15:44 (five months ago) Permalink

One of the things I love about the show so much is how it's becoming this complete epic journey. I started rewatching Lost last week (haven't seen it since it came out) and I am getting apprehensive about where I will give it up, knowing already the ending and how it completely fizzles out in storytelling. I hope this doesn't happen to The Good Place , but since they are already dead...

Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:17 (five months ago) Permalink

The ways they've chosen to completely reframe/reboot the plot over and over again somehow always works. Presumably introducing 4 completely new characters to recreate S1 is bold as hell.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:53 (five months ago) Permalink

They did such a great job casting as well.

Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:55 (five months ago) Permalink

Alison Jones also cast Freaks & Geeks, The Office: An American Workplace, The 40 Year Old Virgin, Superbad, Knocked Up, I Love You Man, Bridesmaids, Parks & Rec, Veep, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Arrested Development, Lady Bird and Eighth Grade.

sans lep (sic), Sunday, 20 January 2019 17:22 (five months ago) Permalink

Well I'm fucked up now

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 January 2019 03:25 (five months ago) Permalink

that was terribly sweet

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:49 (five months ago) Permalink

what a lovely finale

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Friday, 25 January 2019 08:32 (five months ago) Permalink

that destroyed me

calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 25 January 2019 11:32 (five months ago) Permalink

Great show, good finale but I'm not looking forward to every nerd wedding speech from now till eternity including the phrase "Jeremy Bearimy, baby"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 25 January 2019 20:04 (five months ago) Permalink

Teared up at the end there.

Didn't realise it was the finale.

groovypanda, Saturday, 26 January 2019 12:10 (five months ago) Permalink

Me either. It does seem like a season that was getting ready for stuff to happen.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 26 January 2019 13:42 (five months ago) Permalink

pacing of this season was all over the place but that was a really strong finale, they successfully made me care about a couple i don’t care about

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 January 2019 15:01 (five months ago) Permalink

it’s not a joke, i’m a legit snack

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 January 2019 23:16 (five months ago) Permalink

cork blork

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 January 2019 23:18 (five months ago) Permalink

“the time knife” is going to be permanently locked into my vocabulary

mh, Sunday, 27 January 2019 01:19 (four months ago) Permalink

Chidi's delivery of that was spectacular.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 January 2019 01:20 (four months ago) Permalink

Every Derek/martini moment killed. Jason Mantzoukas is consistently hilarious in every show he's on. He should be on more shows.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 20 January 2019 3:22 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I laughed so hard at the martini gags.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 10:39 (four months ago) Permalink

the only reason i watched the league was the potential of mantzoukas popping up at any given moment

my tweet portal is whack (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 14:35 (four months ago) Permalink

strangely i don't like his movie podcast -- there's another guy on it who always shouts over everyone. (also their movie tastes don't line up with my own, but whatever.)

adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 14:59 (four months ago) Permalink

I've stopped listening to Comedy Bang Bang except for episodes with Mantzoukas. I miss him on Brooklyn Nine-Nine too.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:13 (four months ago) Permalink

there's another guy on it who always shouts over everyone

Paul Scheer! I find him and Rob Corddry indistinguishably annoying. Was disappointing to see him turn up on Good Place a couple of weeks ago. But then he disappeared again. Good.

Generally any podcast that involves a group of two or three men laughing at their own in-jokes is a hard NO for me, even if I like all the people involved

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:22 (four months ago) Permalink

lol they just look v similar

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:26 (four months ago) Permalink

they're both horrible overactors too

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:30 (four months ago) Permalink

any podcast that involves a group of two or three men laughing at their own in-jokes is a hard NO for me, even if I like all the people involved

how did this get made has june diane tho

my tweet portal is whack (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:36 (four months ago) Permalink

stopped listening to Comedy Bang Bang except for episodes with Mantzoukas.

this week’s Hodgman / PFT ep felt very early years imo

sans lep (sic), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:19 (four months ago) Permalink

this week’s Hodgman / PFT ep felt very early years imo

I might have to check that one out, I do like PFT a lot but it depends on who the other guests are.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:30 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I like this show, but I could do without the use of HOLY MOTHERFORKING SHIRTBALLS by self-satisfied drama-club nerds.

jaymc, Monday, 11 March 2019 03:31 (three months ago) Permalink

I’ve heard no one use that irl :)

mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 05:11 (three months ago) Permalink

nah, me neither -- I just mean like AV Club commenter types

jaymc, Monday, 11 March 2019 05:19 (three months ago) Permalink

never read the comments

mh, Monday, 11 March 2019 14:13 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...
four weeks pass...

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/the-good-place-ending-season-4-1203236561/

Schur is capping it at four. I trust his instincts.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 8 June 2019 03:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I bet a hard season limit was among Lindelof's pieces of advice, lol

Simon H., Saturday, 8 June 2019 03:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

If it can pull a Justified (subpar penultimate season followed by return-to-form-and-then-some) then good. Lots of incidental pleasures last season but was generally disappointing.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 8 June 2019 15:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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