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What the fork this isn't on until 10 pm?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 21 September 2017 00:21 (two years ago) link

Watched the first season on Netflix, thought it was p good.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 September 2017 00:27 (two years ago) link

netflix internationally, thank god

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 September 2017 09:54 (two years ago) link

wkiw janet

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 12:49 (two years ago) link

That was great, I could handle all episodes being 2 x

Nice pivot with Ted Danson - in that he's definitely the bad guy, but you still kind of want him to do a good job

Also I like the whole cast in this. And it's a great example of something that's comforting without being "cosy" (although all Schur shows inevitably end up that way)

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:18 (two years ago) link

I'm very curious to see how they'll manage to keep this up for an entire season.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:38 (two years ago) link

it was weird seeing danson and 'shawn' appear in back-to-back ads

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:52 (two years ago) link

one of the things i really (disproportionately) love about this show is the way janet appears and disappears. they have a cgi budget, they could magic her in and out of frame with some crazy wonky effect, but they chose to use jump cuts instead. it fits so much better with the show's pacing and comedy timing.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:01 (two years ago) link

didn't catch season 2 opener yet but this is like, the best normal network comedy on tv in years. i watched all of season 1 in one go, which never happens.

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:29 (two years ago) link

janet is so good

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:29 (two years ago) link

I read some info about the s1 finale and thought "this sounds super interesting, let me watch it" and put it on in the living room while my wife (who does not follow tv crit at all) was wrangling our kids.

Five minutes into the pilot, when Eleanor is looking at the clown paintings in her house, my wife looks up and says, "Oh I get it, she's in Hell."

(I lolled.)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:51 (two years ago) link

I also binged the entire season over the course of this week.

Fantastic show, and I'm very, very glad that the non-Bell/Danson cast is getting and producing work this good.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:07 (two years ago) link

Love this show, every part of it is great.

Janet happily explaining how she's not a person gets me every time.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:11 (two years ago) link

I can say without hyperbole that it is my favorite comedy discovery in a long, long while.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:14 (two years ago) link

I just read that no one in the cast outside of Danson and Bell knew what the reveal was until after it was shot; apparently the two of them knew the entire season, but they kept it from the rest of the cast

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:26 (two years ago) link

Ted Danson laugh after being found out is all time.

Frederik B, Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:34 (two years ago) link

it's simple, it's not even a joke, but every single time i love janet's (puzzled) you want me to do what? (beaming) okay!

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:05 (two years ago) link

Ugh, week to week sucks.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:44 (two years ago) link

i love real eleanor / denise

na (NA), Friday, 22 September 2017 02:43 (two years ago) link

i love janet

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:02 (two years ago) link

janet is spectacular

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:05 (two years ago) link

Penis flattener

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:12 (two years ago) link

i want to talk about specific janet moments in series 1 but i don't think enough people here have seen it all the way through

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:23 (two years ago) link

Butthole spiders

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:06 (two years ago) link

janet with the potted cactus plants last season made me lol SO MUCH

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:23 (two years ago) link

i love chidi

also every detail about anthony's irl life is so beautifully, majestically dumb & perfect.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:25 (two years ago) link

double ep was v enjoyable

god this show is such a delight

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:27 (two years ago) link

yessssss the whole cactus thing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 08:29 (two years ago) link

wow i have to watch all this again

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 08:29 (two years ago) link

i want to talk about specific janet moments in series 1 but i don't think enough people here have seen it all the way through

I always thought that the etiquette for specific show threads was that it was fine to talk about anything that has been broadcast already.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 09:51 (two years ago) link

oh cool, because i want to talk about the whole arc where she and jason got married and she proclaimed love and interest for him in the most detached and mechanical and brutally honest way possible, but he bought it because he's jason

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 09:53 (two years ago) link

and the cactus thing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 09:53 (two years ago) link

I feel like even after just one season a character poll would be impossible

Shout out to "real Eleanor" though

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 22 September 2017 11:56 (two years ago) link

if michael was all-knowing AND had watched every episode like he said then he would know that the apartment belonged to monica's grandmother and that it was rent-controlled.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 12:36 (two years ago) link

look everyone loves janet, but i love the turn they're doing with "real eleanor" from being perfect in s1 to being an annoying diva in s2.
they're taking a big risk with s2 though, how it's basically incomprehensible without having watched all of s1. sitcoms usually encourage people to drop in on any episode.

na (NA), Friday, 22 September 2017 14:43 (two years ago) link

would totally watch Good Janet/Bad Janet spin-off.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:16 (two years ago) link

"they're taking a big risk with s2 though, how it's basically incomprehensible without having watched all of s1"

is anything really a risk anymore when you've got the binge dollars coming in? it's on netflix and hulu. and probably amazon and wherever else.

i wonder how much a network makes letting netflix show their show.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:19 (two years ago) link

michael is clearly not all-knowing

mookieproof, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:20 (two years ago) link

GF noted how nice it is to be gently lowered back into reality after Twin Peaks via The Good Place

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:21 (two years ago) link

michael is clearly not all-knowing

honestly this is the only aspect of the show's world that bugs me, like people can have private conversations that the architects can't see or hear? this is a tiny quibble, though.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:31 (two years ago) link

I interpret this as Michael not having been given the resources to properly monitor everyone, because he's working on a project his supervisors don't approve of, even though if it's successful it will really help the organization -- when everyone is torturing him or herself, you don't need such a huge staff.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:44 (two years ago) link

"when everyone is torturing him or herself, you don't need such a huge staff."

uh, except for the town of people who are in on it? that's a lot of overtime.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:41 (two years ago) link

That's just for now, though. Initial outlay to get the project up and running.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:32 (two years ago) link

honestly this is the only aspect of the show's world that bugs me

Well, they keep suggesting that Michael is actually terrible at his job, so that's seems like a good enough explanation.

My guess is that the season will work towards the gang and Michael teaming up against the larger aggressor (being Holt's husband from Brooklyn 99).

There is a typically TV critic indulgent thread on Twitter at the moment - they've decided it's a TV show about storytelling and other TV shows. I get the inclination but that is a godawful boring take on it.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:43 (two years ago) link

i'm rewatching on netflix and it definitely works better as a binge. a chapter a week is fine but less satisfying.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:49 (two years ago) link

Michael isn't supposed to be omniscient - he's the guy setting up the Sims world and letting it run.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 22 September 2017 23:17 (two years ago) link

they've decided it's a TV show about storytelling and other TV shows. I get the inclination but that is a godawful boring take on it.

"Area stoner thinks everyone on TV also stoned."

trishyb, Saturday, 23 September 2017 08:10 (two years ago) link

That speech Michael gave to his minions was all-time! “Sure, we could fire up the penis-flattener...”

DJI, Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:28 (two years ago) link

Just blew through the entire series this weekend. I paid no attention to the episode count so I was shocked when I realized the first season was over.

Not much to say that hasn't already been said. It's great, and I wish I hadn't sat on it for so long. Recognizing glimmers of oneself in the main characters is kind of a 'fun' game (the familiarity of Eleanor's relationship with her coworkers stung a bit).

Gewgaws for Meemaw (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 September 2017 12:25 (two years ago) link

only two episodes left, right?

akm, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:45 (two months ago) link

chidi was missed, I wondered if this overlapped with the filming of Midsommar at all

akm, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:45 (two months ago) link

Have found this season a little flat, after getting used to them constantly reworking the surroundings in previous seasons, and a lot of the jokes haven’t really worked for me. Still it’s very likable, and Jason’s “that’s how I got my nickname” gag a couple episodes back was perfectly delivered.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 00:24 (two months ago) link

Still 6 more episodes, aren't there? Still enjoying it, but it's become a bit enervated.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 02:48 (two months ago) link

this week's episode was crazy good

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 November 2019 03:15 (two months ago) link

Agreed. Chidi at peace may turn out to be my favorite Chidi.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 23 November 2019 05:39 (two months ago) link

funny I found this one felt like a giant retreading waste of time lol

Simon H., Saturday, 23 November 2019 06:31 (two months ago) link

Yeah me too, I feel like the show is floundering and has lost its emotional center at this point. But the jokes are still good!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 23 November 2019 14:50 (two months ago) link

I'm just glad the Dougie Jones Chidi finally woke back up as the supercharged Dale Cooper Chidi.

OneSecondBefore, Saturday, 23 November 2019 20:00 (two months ago) link

CHIDILUV

Dan I., Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:10 (two months ago) link

it was literally retreading old ground but new unseen corners of that ground, through a specific (and one of the show’s most well-written) character’s perspective. it kinda reconnected me to the show emotionally even though nothing really happened with the plot (which i no longer care about anyway). also as i’ve stated upthread i find eleanor/chidi boring but sometimes the writers convince me, this episode was one of those times

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:24 (two months ago) link

This is the first time I've found Chidi and Eleanor's relationship at all convincing, so for that alone I liked it.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:27 (two months ago) link

it was literally retreading old ground but new unseen corners of that ground, through a specific (and one of the show’s most well-written) character’s perspective

I felt like the reason it was unseen was that they were rewriting the character in ways that didn't really match what we've seen before, that's exactly what gave me that floundering feeling -- that and "bad janets are good now."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:43 (two months ago) link

they were rewriting the character in ways that didn't really match what we've seen before

did not feel this at all

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:49 (two months ago) link

This whole "there must be AN ANSWER if only I think hard enough!" thing was completely out of the blue and is foreign to the entire tradition of philosophy Chidi is supposed up till now to have devoted his life to.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:30 (two months ago) link

ok i definitely get that but idk in the experience it felt true to his character regardless

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:49 (two months ago) link

i know it's antithetical but "there must be an answer if only i think hard enough" just seemed to be anxiety stretched out into a full sentence to me. i can still feel that way even if i'm familiar with the idea that the opposite is true (not that this is how the show necessarily depicted it lol)

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:52 (two months ago) link

I don't know, I think it makes sense as an origin story for all his dithering. I mean, yeah, he considers a lot of possible approaches to everything, but that's not the same as thinking there are multiple answers to everything. What's unhealthy about Chidi's approach to the world is that he feels compelled to make the right decision and can't bring himself to make any decision at all in case it's the wrong one, and that seems compatible with what we saw in this episode, I think.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:53 (two months ago) link

i haven't caught up on this show in a long time so idk context but 'there must be an answer if only i think hard enough' sounds TOTALLY on-character for a philosopher in ANY context sooooo

j., Monday, 25 November 2019 00:07 (two months ago) link

loved this ep!

i think part of why this season fell flat was the dearth of Eleanor/Chidi interactions - not even romantically, but just the way they play off each other seemed to generate great moments, not just together but also with the group & splitting the two them off into separate plot roles felt like a bit of a missstep

but i didnt realize it until i saw this new ep

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 November 2019 00:34 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

gah so this is on a break until January

kinder, Monday, 9 December 2019 14:06 (one month ago) link

Wish Netflix would show that somehow.

stet, Monday, 9 December 2019 14:06 (one month ago) link

It's trolling me by saying 'NEW EPISODE' under it

kinder, Monday, 9 December 2019 14:11 (one month ago) link

A great big gap in the schedule will really help the already knackered pacing of this last series.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:19 (one month ago) link

Mike Schur and the show's philosophy consultant, Pamela Hieronymi, are on the latest episode of the Ezra Klein Show podcast: https://www.vox.com/podcasts/2019/12/10/21002589/the-ezra-klein-show-mike-schur-the-good-place-moral-philosophy

(I haven't listened yet.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 04:59 (one month ago) link

great big gap in the schedule

It has done this every year, but this time there are going to be more episodes in the second calendar year than last season, so the pace should be improved if anything

insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 06:43 (one month ago) link

I know it's done it each year, but this series has been unusually baggy, which having an extra episode is unlikely to improve. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of time and affection for this show which is better than almost every other comedy on TV, I'm just disappointed in it this year.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:39 (one month ago) link

you have a right

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:42 (one month ago) link

Found it baggy and disappointing last year too

But it’s still fine

The common denominator in Schur shows seems to be that, the nicer a character gets, the less interesting s/he becomes

Andre Braugher seems to be the exception. Ted Danson’s still great in this, but he seemed to have more fun as the bad guy

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:51 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

So you all know this came back?

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 13 January 2020 15:30 (two weeks ago) link

thing that irrationally annoyed me: Timothy Olyphant guesting as "Timothy Olyphant" even though he was clearly meant to be in character as Raylan Givens

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 13 January 2020 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

Well tbf he was a Janet-created fantasy Olyphant

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 13 January 2020 16:14 (two weeks ago) link

yeah but it was specifically listed as “Timothy Olyphant” not Timothy Olyphant, so the Judge’s made-up idea of what the guy she only knows from Justified is really like

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Monday, 13 January 2020 16:15 (two weeks ago) link

seems like a distinction they could have milked for a proper joke tbh

anyway that's all from me, the joke police

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 13 January 2020 16:20 (two weeks ago) link

i thought that joke was implied.

i imagine he was credited as "raylan" in the script before some nbc lawyers got worried about rights issues.

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 January 2020 16:24 (two weeks ago) link

yeah almost certainly some fox/nbc ish and not something worth not suspending your disbelief over

Clay, Monday, 13 January 2020 18:16 (two weeks ago) link

Hm, so reincarnation and karma is the compromise solution?

One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 15:13 (one week ago) link

haha I had that thought too

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:40 (one week ago) link

I was hoping it would embrace universalism - forgiveness solves lots of the problems.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:05 (one week ago) link

Universal forgiveness goes against the grain of most, if not all, ethical philosophers, because it renders their tortured wrestling with the nuances pointless.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:15 (one week ago) link

I thought last night's was fantastic and got me really excited about this season (for a week until the season finale). The change in setting seemed to open up something that had been missing for much of the season, tons of laugh out loud moments.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:01 (three days ago) link

I haven't watched it yet but I don't know if it's a good or bad thing about this show that literally anything could be at the end of the balloon ride and I'd probably buy it.

joygoat, Friday, 24 January 2020 17:12 (three days ago) link

i've been suspicious they had an eight episode final season and have had to pad the shit out of it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:25 (three days ago) link

aka The Americans s5

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:26 (three days ago) link

It has felt like some wheel spinning for some time, but last night's really reminded me of what I love best about the show.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:37 (three days ago) link

The ending was the ending of A History of the World in 10 1/2 chapters.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:39 (three days ago) link

Looks like a feature length/double episode finale next week (according to IMDB anyway).

And the episode title seems like a massive fucking spoiler so don't look it up.

groovypanda, Friday, 24 January 2020 23:01 (three days ago) link

Oh! I thought that was the last episode...

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:08 (three days ago) link

Ha, the ending could certainly have scanned as a series finale, but more to come.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:43 (three days ago) link

Schur on the Olyphant cameo: all this thread's questions answered

https://tv.avclub.com/mike-schur-on-making-the-judge-s-dreams-come-true-with-1840910984

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 26 January 2020 06:24 (yesterday) link


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