The Good Place on NBC

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What the fork this isn't on until 10 pm?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 21 September 2017 00:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Watched the first season on Netflix, thought it was p good.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 21 September 2017 00:27 (one year ago) Permalink

netflix internationally, thank god

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 September 2017 09:54 (one year ago) Permalink

wkiw janet

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 12:49 (one year ago) Permalink

That was great, I could handle all episodes being 2 x

Nice pivot with Ted Danson - in that he's definitely the bad guy, but you still kind of want him to do a good job

Also I like the whole cast in this. And it's a great example of something that's comforting without being "cosy" (although all Schur shows inevitably end up that way)

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:18 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm very curious to see how they'll manage to keep this up for an entire season.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:38 (one year ago) Permalink

it was weird seeing danson and 'shawn' appear in back-to-back ads

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 14:52 (one year ago) Permalink

one of the things i really (disproportionately) love about this show is the way janet appears and disappears. they have a cgi budget, they could magic her in and out of frame with some crazy wonky effect, but they chose to use jump cuts instead. it fits so much better with the show's pacing and comedy timing.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

didn't catch season 2 opener yet but this is like, the best normal network comedy on tv in years. i watched all of season 1 in one go, which never happens.

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:29 (one year ago) Permalink

janet is so good

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:29 (one year ago) Permalink

I read some info about the s1 finale and thought "this sounds super interesting, let me watch it" and put it on in the living room while my wife (who does not follow tv crit at all) was wrangling our kids.

Five minutes into the pilot, when Eleanor is looking at the clown paintings in her house, my wife looks up and says, "Oh I get it, she's in Hell."

(I lolled.)

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:51 (one year ago) Permalink

I also binged the entire season over the course of this week.

Fantastic show, and I'm very, very glad that the non-Bell/Danson cast is getting and producing work this good.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Love this show, every part of it is great.

Janet happily explaining how she's not a person gets me every time.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:11 (one year ago) Permalink

I can say without hyperbole that it is my favorite comedy discovery in a long, long while.

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:14 (one year ago) Permalink

I just read that no one in the cast outside of Danson and Bell knew what the reveal was until after it was shot; apparently the two of them knew the entire season, but they kept it from the rest of the cast

akm, Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Ted Danson laugh after being found out is all time.

Frederik B, Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:34 (one year ago) Permalink

it's simple, it's not even a joke, but every single time i love janet's (puzzled) you want me to do what? (beaming) okay!

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Ugh, week to week sucks.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 21 September 2017 23:44 (one year ago) Permalink

i love real eleanor / denise

na (NA), Friday, 22 September 2017 02:43 (one year ago) Permalink

i love janet

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:02 (one year ago) Permalink

janet is spectacular

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Penis flattener

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:12 (one year ago) Permalink

i want to talk about specific janet moments in series 1 but i don't think enough people here have seen it all the way through

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 03:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Butthole spiders

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:06 (one year ago) Permalink

janet with the potted cactus plants last season made me lol SO MUCH

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:23 (one year ago) Permalink

i love chidi

also every detail about anthony's irl life is so beautifully, majestically dumb & perfect.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:25 (one year ago) Permalink

double ep was v enjoyable

god this show is such a delight

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 04:27 (one year ago) Permalink

yessssss the whole cactus thing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 08:29 (one year ago) Permalink

wow i have to watch all this again

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 08:29 (one year ago) Permalink

i want to talk about specific janet moments in series 1 but i don't think enough people here have seen it all the way through

I always thought that the etiquette for specific show threads was that it was fine to talk about anything that has been broadcast already.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 09:51 (one year ago) Permalink

oh cool, because i want to talk about the whole arc where she and jason got married and she proclaimed love and interest for him in the most detached and mechanical and brutally honest way possible, but he bought it because he's jason

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 09:53 (one year ago) Permalink

and the cactus thing

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 09:53 (one year ago) Permalink

I feel like even after just one season a character poll would be impossible

Shout out to "real Eleanor" though

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 22 September 2017 11:56 (one year ago) Permalink

if michael was all-knowing AND had watched every episode like he said then he would know that the apartment belonged to monica's grandmother and that it was rent-controlled.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 12:36 (one year ago) Permalink

look everyone loves janet, but i love the turn they're doing with "real eleanor" from being perfect in s1 to being an annoying diva in s2.
they're taking a big risk with s2 though, how it's basically incomprehensible without having watched all of s1. sitcoms usually encourage people to drop in on any episode.

na (NA), Friday, 22 September 2017 14:43 (one year ago) Permalink

would totally watch Good Janet/Bad Janet spin-off.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:16 (one year ago) Permalink

"they're taking a big risk with s2 though, how it's basically incomprehensible without having watched all of s1"

is anything really a risk anymore when you've got the binge dollars coming in? it's on netflix and hulu. and probably amazon and wherever else.

i wonder how much a network makes letting netflix show their show.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:19 (one year ago) Permalink

michael is clearly not all-knowing

mookieproof, Friday, 22 September 2017 15:20 (one year ago) Permalink

GF noted how nice it is to be gently lowered back into reality after Twin Peaks via The Good Place

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:21 (one year ago) Permalink

michael is clearly not all-knowing

honestly this is the only aspect of the show's world that bugs me, like people can have private conversations that the architects can't see or hear? this is a tiny quibble, though.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 22 September 2017 15:31 (one year ago) Permalink

I interpret this as Michael not having been given the resources to properly monitor everyone, because he's working on a project his supervisors don't approve of, even though if it's successful it will really help the organization -- when everyone is torturing him or herself, you don't need such a huge staff.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:44 (one year ago) Permalink

"when everyone is torturing him or herself, you don't need such a huge staff."

uh, except for the town of people who are in on it? that's a lot of overtime.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

That's just for now, though. Initial outlay to get the project up and running.

trishyb, Friday, 22 September 2017 21:32 (one year ago) Permalink

honestly this is the only aspect of the show's world that bugs me

Well, they keep suggesting that Michael is actually terrible at his job, so that's seems like a good enough explanation.

My guess is that the season will work towards the gang and Michael teaming up against the larger aggressor (being Holt's husband from Brooklyn 99).

There is a typically TV critic indulgent thread on Twitter at the moment - they've decided it's a TV show about storytelling and other TV shows. I get the inclination but that is a godawful boring take on it.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 September 2017 22:43 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm rewatching on netflix and it definitely works better as a binge. a chapter a week is fine but less satisfying.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 September 2017 22:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Michael isn't supposed to be omniscient - he's the guy setting up the Sims world and letting it run.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 22 September 2017 23:17 (one year ago) Permalink

they've decided it's a TV show about storytelling and other TV shows. I get the inclination but that is a godawful boring take on it.

"Area stoner thinks everyone on TV also stoned."

trishyb, Saturday, 23 September 2017 08:10 (one year ago) Permalink

That speech Michael gave to his minions was all-time! “Sure, we could fire up the penis-flattener...”

DJI, Saturday, 23 September 2017 16:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Just blew through the entire series this weekend. I paid no attention to the episode count so I was shocked when I realized the first season was over.

Not much to say that hasn't already been said. It's great, and I wish I hadn't sat on it for so long. Recognizing glimmers of oneself in the main characters is kind of a 'fun' game (the familiarity of Eleanor's relationship with her coworkers stung a bit).

Gewgaws for Meemaw (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 September 2017 12:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Janets

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 7 December 2018 11:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Wow

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:48 (one month ago) Permalink

D’arcy’s interpretations of everyone, a kiss to save the void, big reveal about the good place, heroics from michael, big time cliff hanger...Holy crap what a show!

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 7 December 2018 12:49 (one month ago) Permalink

loved the wernham hogg vibe of the accounting department

maura, Friday, 7 December 2018 13:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Everything about that episode was fantastic. D'Arcy Carden is a national treasure.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 December 2018 14:33 (one month ago) Permalink

it's hard to believe that this show continues to get better with almost every episode.

I was kind of hoping that they'd discover no one had EVER gotten into the Good Place.

akm, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:36 (one month ago) Permalink

i love my favorite show

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 7 December 2018 17:17 (one month ago) Permalink

This was a great episode. A brilliant performance from D'Arcy Carden. It really connected in the way that the best of the episodes did.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 7 December 2018 22:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was some kind of high spot.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Saturday, 8 December 2018 17:02 (one month ago) Permalink

Such a genius episode, and you could tell Carden was really having fun with the Jason impression.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 8 December 2018 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

So if they're finally in the real Good Place is it all going to be based on perceptions of idyllic society from 500 years ago? Hope so!

nashwan, Saturday, 8 December 2018 17:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Loved it esp the accounting dept

kinder, Saturday, 8 December 2018 22:18 (one month ago) Permalink

I was kind of surprised how much taller Stephen Merchant is than Ted Danson.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 8 December 2018 22:22 (one month ago) Permalink

I noticed that too!

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Saturday, 8 December 2018 22:25 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah same
he is ridiculously tall

kinder, Saturday, 8 December 2018 22:29 (one month ago) Permalink

(I would suggest that by the established rules so far it isn't odd that Doug isn't getting into heaven - all of his actions are directed at that end)

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 8 December 2018 23:19 (one month ago) Permalink

This episode contradicts some of even that though, because it says once a value's set it's automatically applied and some of the activities pre-dates a concept of a good or bad place (I would guess, since we'll never know whether God and the Afterlife were our first sentient thoughts.)

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Saturday, 8 December 2018 23:25 (one month ago) Permalink

in 1497 (521 years ago) this guy died:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Manetti

“He is particularly noted for his investigations into the site, shape and size of Dante's Inferno. Although Manetti never himself published his research regarding the topic, the earliest Renaissance Florentine editors of the poem, Cristoforo Landino and Girolamo Benivieni, reported the results of his researches in their respective editions of the Divine Comedy.”

maura, Sunday, 9 December 2018 16:49 (one month ago) Permalink

didn't they previously say abraham lincoln was in the good place?

adam the (abanana), Sunday, 9 December 2018 23:21 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, but those were demons pretending to be Good place folks, right? So they just lied.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 9 December 2018 23:56 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah, that's what i was figuring as well

maura, Monday, 10 December 2018 00:35 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

it's always been close, but i feel like chidi has become Too Perfect

mookieproof, Friday, 11 January 2019 13:52 (one week ago) Permalink

just wait til he has to pick a hat to wear

affadavido (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:09 (one week ago) Permalink

rule changes kinda got to me last episode ("the system is rigged by the bad place" -> "the system didn't adjust with the increasing complexity of human life" kinda lame and obvious but fine) but last night's episode was excellent, hopefully they settle down a little on the super expository plot shifts

derek

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:32 (three days ago) Permalink

lol'd at the "time knife" bit

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:34 (three days ago) Permalink

haven't watched this week's ep yet, but god this show is *so close* to inadvertently backing a full-throated critique of global capitalism lol

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:34 (three days ago) Permalink

I think it’s advertently

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:46 (three days ago) Permalink

enh Schur seems like a standard-issue liberal from what I've seen but I'd be happy to be wrong

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:47 (three days ago) Permalink

but he's explicitly making the argument that globalism implicates even well meaning consumers into such a web of exploitation and avarice that even nice acts are net negatives to humanity. how could that be inadvertent?

Mordy, Friday, 18 January 2019 16:10 (three days ago) Permalink

well ppl often fail to realize the implications of powerful arguments when they start thinking that they sound like a cool way to dunk on ppl

j., Friday, 18 January 2019 16:13 (three days ago) Permalink

but he's explicitly making the argument that globalism implicates even well meaning consumers into such a web of exploitation and avarice that even nice acts are net negatives to humanity. how could that be inadvertent?

inadvertent only in the sense that the show diagnoses this as simply "modern life" and not the product of a specific set of historical processes at work. which makes sense because it's a sitcom and not an undergraduate lecture series

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 16:15 (three days ago) Permalink

likely linked upthread but all mentioned points are fairly intentional if perhaps not completely thought through
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/04/magazine/good-place-michael-schur-philosophy.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 18 January 2019 16:18 (three days ago) Permalink

torturing Shakespeare, lol

kinder, Friday, 18 January 2019 20:08 (three days ago) Permalink

yeah that was my favorite throwaway gag, besides maybe Eleanor high-fiving Jason after his iHop burn

Also, can't stop laughing at Interdimensional Hole of Pancakes, especially since the "of pancakes" part was completely unexplained

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 January 2019 21:26 (three days ago) Permalink

i laughed for two solid minutes at how harboring a non-fried vegetable is a felony in jacksonville

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 18 January 2019 21:27 (three days ago) Permalink

counterpoint, humans are garbage. limp bizkit, slavery.

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 January 2019 21:33 (three days ago) Permalink

Oh man, Michael flossing

groovypanda, Saturday, 19 January 2019 11:49 (two days ago) Permalink

Chidi’s voice when he yelps about having seen the time knife

mh, Saturday, 19 January 2019 15:18 (two days ago) Permalink

Every Derek/martini moment killed. Jason Mantzoukas is consistently hilarious in every show he's on. He should be on more shows.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 19 January 2019 16:22 (two days ago) Permalink

^^ love that guy

DJI, Saturday, 19 January 2019 17:43 (two days ago) Permalink

He's even great playing the straight man in The Dictator

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:15 (two days ago) Permalink

he is a great guest judge on nailed it

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:27 (two days ago) Permalink

if u like zouks search every comedy bang bang ep he's been on; consistently hilarious dude

Mordy, Saturday, 19 January 2019 18:35 (two days ago) Permalink

the chris gethard episode with mantzoukas and paul scheer is still the funniest thing i’ve ever seen

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 January 2019 19:36 (two days ago) Permalink

See also, the How Did This Get Made? podcast.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 20 January 2019 15:44 (yesterday) Permalink

One of the things I love about the show so much is how it's becoming this complete epic journey. I started rewatching Lost last week (haven't seen it since it came out) and I am getting apprehensive about where I will give it up, knowing already the ending and how it completely fizzles out in storytelling. I hope this doesn't happen to The Good Place , but since they are already dead...

Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:17 (yesterday) Permalink

The ways they've chosen to completely reframe/reboot the plot over and over again somehow always works. Presumably introducing 4 completely new characters to recreate S1 is bold as hell.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:53 (yesterday) Permalink

They did such a great job casting as well.

Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 16:55 (yesterday) Permalink

Alison Jones also cast Freaks & Geeks, The Office: An American Workplace, The 40 Year Old Virgin, Superbad, Knocked Up, I Love You Man, Bridesmaids, Parks & Rec, Veep, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Arrested Development, Lady Bird and Eighth Grade.

sans lep (sic), Sunday, 20 January 2019 17:22 (yesterday) Permalink


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