Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

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"Set in a future where humanity has colonized the Solar System, it follows police detective Miller (Thomas Jane), ship's officer Jim Holden (Steven Strait), and his crew as they unravel a conspiracy that threatens peace across the System and the survival of humanity."

Reasons to love:

1. Thomas Jane's character is a hopeless dickhead and nobody likes him. By the last episode I watched (ep 5 - ep 6 aired tonight) I felt like the only person rooting for him, and only because I want to find out the answers! I love an irredeemable loser antihero, once in a while. And everybody calls him out on his stupid PUA hat. Which I think he wears mostly because his haircut is even worse. Good stuff.

2. Jared Harris speaking in a completely made-up space person accent (that no other character has?!?) and being an ice cold asteroid gangster! I should not have to go on!

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

4. the Martian Congressional Republic Navy, is a thing

5. a pretty important main character named "Fred Johnson" - science fiction, everybody

6. OK I guess the big draw is the space political thriller angle but you know what? Spaceships and crappy space detectives and gangsters in space. The UN and Mars and Belter Independence stuff or whatever is just kind of background noise imo.

*basically as far as I can tell they accomplished this, to the extent possible, by casting stocky folks as "Earthers" and rangier folks as "Belters." A for effort.

I can't be the only one watching this, you people are nerds

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 03:51 (three years ago) Permalink

OK, I'm intrigued. Is the writing and acting any good?

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:11 (three years ago) Permalink

Really uneven, but serviceable

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:17 (three years ago) Permalink

this is pretty exciting so far, though i agree it works better as a sci-fi noir than as a political thriller

also it has Space Mormons

ciderpress, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh yes who could forget the LDS contracting to build a gigantic colony ship!

Why does Athena Karkanis' character care so much about Miller? Are they going to explain that at some point?

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:07 (three years ago) Permalink

definitely the most promising SyFy series in a good while, although the pilot held my attention a lot more than the subsequent episodes

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:10 (three years ago) Permalink

i read and remember nothing of the book (first in a series i believe) except that it felt like screenplay bait. one of the pseudonymous authors is one of george r r martin's attendants

https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj11ztijdh1qhhbv2o1_500.jpg

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:19 (three years ago) Permalink

show is good tho, sometimes it feels pleasingly cheap (drinks in a space bar that looked chintzier than ten forward, a future montana ranch house that looks a whole lot like a 21st century montana ranch house)

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:20 (three years ago) Permalink

Started the book, solid B so far

calstars, Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:32 (three years ago) Permalink

most recent episode was super tense, v good imo

ciderpress, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:31 (three years ago) Permalink

i just started watching this --- i like it for all the above reasons

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 30 January 2016 23:10 (three years ago) Permalink

I got kinda bored midway through the pilot (soooo much exposition) can I jump in a bit later or

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:13 (three years ago) Permalink

nah it moves pretty fast except for maybe one ep in the middle of the season i forget which. if you didn't like the pilot then idk

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:51 (three years ago) Permalink

maybe moving fast is the wrong way to say it since the 2 main plots for most of the season are detective investigation and space survival neither of which involve a lot of direct conflict, but i never got the feeling of it being stretched out like i do with a lot of shows

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:55 (three years ago) Permalink

I've been watching it... really enjoyed the most recent episode, promises to be a good finale

Feels more like Chinatown In Space than anything

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:21 (three years ago) Permalink

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:23 (three years ago) Permalink

in space, no one can hear you

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:34 (three years ago) Permalink

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:23 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thomas Jane went to the space barber and said "give me the Gary Oldman in Fifth Element"

77 lines about 77 albums i haven't heard (some dude), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:19 (three years ago) Permalink

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Make me look like I used to own a skate shop

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:40 (three years ago) Permalink

lolol

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:03 (three years ago) Permalink

i admit that I got a bit bored with all the worldbuilding, and that fake southern?/texan? dude who talks to spaceship computers like they're truckstop waitresses was almost a bridge too far... but I appreciate having a halfway decent scifi show on SyFy again so I am not complaining

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 00:25 (three years ago) Permalink

the books are good n' popcorny. kind of a shame that the TV series starts w/ the first novel, which is definitely the worst of the whole shebang.

remy bean, Monday, 1 February 2016 02:31 (three years ago) Permalink

So the second-to-last episode of Season 1 spends a LOT of time inside a derelict and it is great creepy television. I loved how they mixed the soundtrack low so you're really just listening to magnetic boots on metal gangplanks almost the entire time, which you then realize is also the only thing any of the characters can hear.

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:36 (three years ago) Permalink

I was gonna watch this but Hulu won't let me watch on TV. Booooo

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 8 February 2016 19:51 (three years ago) Permalink

i watched it at syfy's website

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:00 (three years ago) Permalink

oh wait missed the "on TV" part n/m

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:01 (three years ago) Permalink

amos and the UN lady are both super compelling actors, look forward to more of this show

adam, Monday, 8 February 2016 20:13 (three years ago) Permalink

One small nitpick - the action sequence towards the end (of the second to last episode) was a little choppy. I rewound it a few times and still had to just make some assumptions about how a couple things happened / who did what. Even then - how did that grenade not go off?

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:16 (three years ago) Permalink

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

also a pleasingly hard sci fi plausible-ish near future involving asteroid mining and no (at least so far) fanciful alien species or completely out there tech. like it seems like space travel actually involves orbital mechanics in this

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 23:31 (three years ago) Permalink

finale 2-parter was great

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 04:55 (three years ago) Permalink

xp yeah one of the things i like most about this show is that it really gives a sense of how fragile humanity in space is

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:09 (three years ago) Permalink

Just binged. Its been such a desert for good space sci-fi that I didn't look too closely for seams. The gumshoe with the dodgy haircut was the comic relief, some good character actors in the bit roles, the sets are appropriately gritty and/or antiseptic, the effects crew clearly communicate the lonely peril of deep space, and the show runners are clearly love their hard sci-fi. And I want the actress playing Avasarala to purr in my ear.

Glad to have some episodic sci-fi to look forward to, now that Continuum has wrapped its loose ends.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 01:42 (three years ago) Permalink

Winchell Chung, creator of the terrific hard sci-fi resource Atomic Rockets, gives The Expanse his Seal of Approval. I agree with every word.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Friday, 19 February 2016 04:51 (two years ago) Permalink

can't believe we have to wait 9 months to find out what the hell is going on

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:40 (two years ago) Permalink

if only there was like a whole bunch of books based on the tv show but like that actually ran ahead of the tv show that we could read

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Sunday, 21 February 2016 06:14 (two years ago) Permalink

wait did continuum turn out to be good? the pilot was kinda rough and i never saw more

adam, Sunday, 21 February 2016 14:23 (two years ago) Permalink

It was better than any time-travelling cop series had a right to be, and while the budgets shranked, the writing became more interesting. I'll be frank, though: My initial attraction was Rachel Nichols in a cat suit.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Sunday, 21 February 2016 15:30 (two years ago) Permalink

guys i watched the first episode and.... really?

"UN BLACK OPS SITE"

space sex

COOL FEDORA GUY

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:52 (two years ago) Permalink

it was like every crap 90s 'graphic novel' cliche throwd into one

only thing i liked apart from the awesome opening exposition title cards was the tense horror movie stuff p much

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:55 (two years ago) Permalink

ok i've actually read the thread now and

People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!
- that was cool

made-up accent that no one has - it's supposed to be a kind of 'third world' Belter accent, right? to hammer home the allegory of the exploited other-class?

'flip n burn' was pretty good

GAH I DON'T KNOW

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:58 (two years ago) Permalink

I've read (and really) enjoyed all the pulpy popcorn books & novellas and thought the first episode was pretty ropey. However, it gets much better and by the end is easily one of the best sci-fi shows in years and probably the best thing SyFy have done since BG.

groovypanda, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:24 (two years ago) Permalink

space sex only happens in the first episode because there's an unwritten rule now that all tv pilots need sexual content regardless of the tone of the show

ciderpress, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:37 (two years ago) Permalink

By ep 4 it starts getting really good afaict

It has been distracting seeing my doppelganger the medic

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:22 (two years ago) Permalink

I couldn't get past the first ep of this, might give it another shot.

calzino, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:32 (two years ago) Permalink

the other recent new SyFy show The Magicians (which is imo better than The Expanse) ALSO had gravity-defying midair sex in the pilot

some dude, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:40 (two years ago) Permalink

I like both shows a lot, nice to see SyFy step it up

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:41 (two years ago) Permalink

I've read all the Magicians books too and whilst I'm enjoying the show, I think The Expanse is much better.

Do they go out at different times in the States? It's noticeable that whilst Avasarala is very foul mouthed in the books, on the show she's not whereas The Magicians seems to have no problems dropping in the f-word several times each episode.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:20 (two years ago) Permalink

There's been a recent trend towards series that air on non-sweary networks to throw in curses they can't actually air and just blank them out. (This is especially glaring on American Crime, where - I assume as a deliberate aesthetic choice - every "fuck" is announced with a few frames of completely blacked-out screen.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:52 (two years ago) Permalink

I assume it's because they know/hope the unedited versions will be available on DVD

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 17:07 (two years ago) Permalink

Great finale. Looks like the storyline will go some majorly different places next season.

chap, Monday, 2 July 2018 22:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

Legit impressed with the ending. Missed Avasarala. Looking forward to new network, new season, and total refocus of the show.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 2 July 2018 22:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

Naren Shankar seems especially happy to be freed from the "no nudity" constraint. So its going to be Holden's ass, all the time.

Roomba with an attitude (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 00:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Just about to finish S1, and loving this so far. Whoever was responsible for casting picked a bunch of people with really interesting faces to watch.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 31 August 2018 02:29 (five months ago) Permalink

Ha, I just noticed you’re the second post on the thread. Congratulations, one of us, etc!

Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Friday, 31 August 2018 11:03 (five months ago) Permalink

Finally got around to it when I saw it was vanishing from Netflix at the end of September, I guess because of Amazon taking over. Just got to tne end of S1 tonight, and holy crap.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 31 August 2018 12:40 (five months ago) Permalink

:D

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 31 August 2018 13:08 (five months ago) Permalink

randomly caught a tweet thread of a guy breaking down episodes and the sets and production design, and on one of the screens on the Roci, you can just make out that its drones are named "Peart", "Lee", and "Lifeson"

sous les paves, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 20:20 (five months ago) Permalink

Alex's screen seems to indicate that the ship has three little drones like this, and that they're named "Pearl", "Lee", and "Lifeson". Pearl seems to be the one he's using. #TheExpanse #SomeThingsINoticed pic.twitter.com/6Rt1r87AFQ

— Wagnarok (@will_wagner) September 3, 2018

sous les paves, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 20:35 (five months ago) Permalink

Up to 2.5, ie the one that ends with something hitting Venus. Only just realised that the screenwriters are the guy who wrote the books, so to speak.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 01:39 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

And now just ended 3.7, the one iwht this startling conclusion:
https://preview.ibb.co/f5zgPz/Untitled_1.jpg

Very much enjoying this show.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 05:55 (four months ago) Permalink

what an image!! i still haven't seen any of 3 and i love how gross/significant-seeming/non-spoily that is at the same time

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:03 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't want to spoil for anyone, but it's grand.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:46 (four months ago) Permalink

I couldn't make it through the initial exposition-dump in the first 10 minutes of the first episode

I hate sci-fi exposition

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:54 (four months ago) Permalink

Just make it through the first 2-3 episodes and I promise you'll get into it.

DJI, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:00 (four months ago) Permalink

I think you'd like it by the middle of the first season,, Shakey. I didn't like the first few eps either, but it does pick up.

remy bean, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:05 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah. Me and my wife gave up after the first ep. I went back and ended up getting hooked. I finally convinced her to give it another shot and she binged 2 seasons in like one week.

DJI, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:09 (four months ago) Permalink

m/l the same to all this

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:10 (four months ago) Permalink

m/l? Is that "much love?"

DJI, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:11 (four months ago) Permalink

more or less

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:31 (four months ago) Permalink

there is a point early in the 1st season where it Gets Real and it never really lets up after that

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:42 (four months ago) Permalink

That rules

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 10:58 (four months ago) Permalink

Cara Gee can smile! And has actual eyes!

Nag Reddit (Leee), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:39 (four months ago) Permalink

I've watched the first season and read the first book, and dug them both. But should I carry on with the books or the show???

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:12 (four months ago) Permalink

FWIW, I watched the show first. Started in on the books but bailed out somewhere in book 2 - I'm super-snobby about my SF so that was not unexpected.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 06:48 (four months ago) Permalink

I've watched the first season and read the first book, and dug them both. But should I carry on with the books or the show???

I kind of feel that having read the books ruined this last season for me.

Deontology Sanders (Leee), Monday, 8 October 2018 20:29 (four months ago) Permalink

But which would you rather have ruined?

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 8 October 2018 21:23 (four months ago) Permalink

Recommend the audiobooks. Jefferson Mays pretty much nailed the characters prior to the broadcast series' casting. Just listen far enough in advance that you've largely forgotten the details before airing. The books aren't timeless classic, just better than average space opera, but if you like the universe and characters, the books add to the immersion, particularly with respect to Miller in S1-S2.

I expect that that the broadcast series will take enormous divergences with the content of book 4, Cibola Burn, which is by general fan consensus the least-liked book. I think pretty much all of book 4's contribution to the overall arc could be provided by reading the handful of pages upon which the word "Miller" appears from an ebook. Several of the novellas offered more backstory than book 4.

My hope is that S4 will cover Cibola Burn as a half-season, alongside some material presaging book 5-6 arc within the solar system, and the wider book 7-9 arc that's still emerging. This still leaves enough time for another entirely novel narrative amidst the Expanse, beyond the rings, as well as ending S4 after a book 5 cliffhanger.

godless hippie skank (Sanpaku), Monday, 8 October 2018 21:23 (four months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

GUYS GUYS GUYSSS! Season 3 goes worldwide Feb 8th on @PrimeVideo #FINALLY #TheExpanse 🚀🚀🚀 https://t.co/zAnejuofLC

— Dominique Tipper (@Mi55Tipper) January 22, 2019

groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

nice

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

amazon prime.
bastards.
other seasons were released on Netflix in the uk.

mark e, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Guess it was kind of inevitable once Amazon stepped up to save the show.

And all future seasons will be on Prime

groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 20:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

My impression is that Amazon also obtained rights to S1-3 from Netflix in jurisdictions where it formerly aired. There's going to be a big marketing push over the next 6 months or so.

dancing the Radioactive Flesh (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

hell yea

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Amazon launched a new twitter for updates:

You helped #SaveTheExpanse. Next month, #TheExpanse finds its new home on Amazon @PrimeVideo. Binge all three seasons starting Feb 8: https://t.co/4EYd54z6st pic.twitter.com/a0yOk2BXG2

— The Expanse (@ExpanseOnPrime) January 23, 2019

dancing the Radioactive Flesh (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 23:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Hurry up with season 4

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 24 January 2019 00:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

aw what a delightful promo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 January 2019 02:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Holden w the scruff!!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 January 2019 09:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

When is season 4 due?

Wondering if I've got time to rewatch the first three beforehand

groovypanda, Thursday, 24 January 2019 09:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink

OF COURSE YOU DO

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 January 2019 10:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

you make time, buddy

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 January 2019 23:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Looks like we're definitely getting Cibola Burn then

Introducing Adolphus Murtry. Welcome to #TheExpanse Season 4, @burngorman. pic.twitter.com/pp5kJlgi7q

— The Expanse (@ExpanseOnPrime) February 7, 2019

groovypanda, Thursday, 7 February 2019 14:59 (one week ago) Permalink

as a burn gorman stan i am ready for this

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 8 February 2019 21:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Season 3 is up on Prime now (went up yesterday in the US I think). Gonna check it out soon.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 8 February 2019 23:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Just watched the whole season over a couple long couch sessions, I take back anything bad I've said about this during S2, it's great

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:00 (one week ago) Permalink

as a burn gorman stan i am ready for this

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, February 8, 2019 1:43 PM (two days ago)

MY MAN!!!!

sarahell, Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink

Burn!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:26 (one week ago) Permalink

For any Burn fan who hasn't seen it.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 11 February 2019 00:21 (one week ago) Permalink


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