Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

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"Set in a future where humanity has colonized the Solar System, it follows police detective Miller (Thomas Jane), ship's officer Jim Holden (Steven Strait), and his crew as they unravel a conspiracy that threatens peace across the System and the survival of humanity."

Reasons to love:

1. Thomas Jane's character is a hopeless dickhead and nobody likes him. By the last episode I watched (ep 5 - ep 6 aired tonight) I felt like the only person rooting for him, and only because I want to find out the answers! I love an irredeemable loser antihero, once in a while. And everybody calls him out on his stupid PUA hat. Which I think he wears mostly because his haircut is even worse. Good stuff.

2. Jared Harris speaking in a completely made-up space person accent (that no other character has?!?) and being an ice cold asteroid gangster! I should not have to go on!

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

4. the Martian Congressional Republic Navy, is a thing

5. a pretty important main character named "Fred Johnson" - science fiction, everybody

6. OK I guess the big draw is the space political thriller angle but you know what? Spaceships and crappy space detectives and gangsters in space. The UN and Mars and Belter Independence stuff or whatever is just kind of background noise imo.

*basically as far as I can tell they accomplished this, to the extent possible, by casting stocky folks as "Earthers" and rangier folks as "Belters." A for effort.

I can't be the only one watching this, you people are nerds

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 03:51 (five years ago) link

OK, I'm intrigued. Is the writing and acting any good?

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:11 (five years ago) link

Really uneven, but serviceable

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:17 (five years ago) link

this is pretty exciting so far, though i agree it works better as a sci-fi noir than as a political thriller

also it has Space Mormons

ciderpress, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:39 (five years ago) link

Oh yes who could forget the LDS contracting to build a gigantic colony ship!

Why does Athena Karkanis' character care so much about Miller? Are they going to explain that at some point?

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:07 (five years ago) link

definitely the most promising SyFy series in a good while, although the pilot held my attention a lot more than the subsequent episodes

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:10 (five years ago) link

i read and remember nothing of the book (first in a series i believe) except that it felt like screenplay bait. one of the pseudonymous authors is one of george r r martin's attendants

https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj11ztijdh1qhhbv2o1_500.jpg

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:19 (five years ago) link

show is good tho, sometimes it feels pleasingly cheap (drinks in a space bar that looked chintzier than ten forward, a future montana ranch house that looks a whole lot like a 21st century montana ranch house)

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:20 (five years ago) link

Started the book, solid B so far

calstars, Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:32 (five years ago) link

most recent episode was super tense, v good imo

ciderpress, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:31 (five years ago) link

i just started watching this --- i like it for all the above reasons

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 30 January 2016 23:10 (five years ago) link

I got kinda bored midway through the pilot (soooo much exposition) can I jump in a bit later or

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:13 (five years ago) link

nah it moves pretty fast except for maybe one ep in the middle of the season i forget which. if you didn't like the pilot then idk

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:51 (five years ago) link

maybe moving fast is the wrong way to say it since the 2 main plots for most of the season are detective investigation and space survival neither of which involve a lot of direct conflict, but i never got the feeling of it being stretched out like i do with a lot of shows

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:55 (five years ago) link

I've been watching it... really enjoyed the most recent episode, promises to be a good finale

Feels more like Chinatown In Space than anything

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:21 (five years ago) link

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:23 (five years ago) link

in space, no one can hear you

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:34 (five years ago) link

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:23 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thomas Jane went to the space barber and said "give me the Gary Oldman in Fifth Element"

77 lines about 77 albums i haven't heard (some dude), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:19 (five years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:39 (five years ago) link

Make me look like I used to own a skate shop

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:40 (five years ago) link

lolol

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:03 (five years ago) link

i admit that I got a bit bored with all the worldbuilding, and that fake southern?/texan? dude who talks to spaceship computers like they're truckstop waitresses was almost a bridge too far... but I appreciate having a halfway decent scifi show on SyFy again so I am not complaining

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 00:25 (five years ago) link

the books are good n' popcorny. kind of a shame that the TV series starts w/ the first novel, which is definitely the worst of the whole shebang.

remy bean, Monday, 1 February 2016 02:31 (five years ago) link

So the second-to-last episode of Season 1 spends a LOT of time inside a derelict and it is great creepy television. I loved how they mixed the soundtrack low so you're really just listening to magnetic boots on metal gangplanks almost the entire time, which you then realize is also the only thing any of the characters can hear.

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:36 (five years ago) link

I was gonna watch this but Hulu won't let me watch on TV. Booooo

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 8 February 2016 19:51 (five years ago) link

i watched it at syfy's website

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:00 (five years ago) link

oh wait missed the "on TV" part n/m

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:01 (five years ago) link

amos and the UN lady are both super compelling actors, look forward to more of this show

adam, Monday, 8 February 2016 20:13 (five years ago) link

One small nitpick - the action sequence towards the end (of the second to last episode) was a little choppy. I rewound it a few times and still had to just make some assumptions about how a couple things happened / who did what. Even then - how did that grenade not go off?

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:16 (five years ago) link

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

also a pleasingly hard sci fi plausible-ish near future involving asteroid mining and no (at least so far) fanciful alien species or completely out there tech. like it seems like space travel actually involves orbital mechanics in this

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 23:31 (five years ago) link

finale 2-parter was great

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 04:55 (five years ago) link

xp yeah one of the things i like most about this show is that it really gives a sense of how fragile humanity in space is

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:09 (five years ago) link

Just binged. Its been such a desert for good space sci-fi that I didn't look too closely for seams. The gumshoe with the dodgy haircut was the comic relief, some good character actors in the bit roles, the sets are appropriately gritty and/or antiseptic, the effects crew clearly communicate the lonely peril of deep space, and the show runners are clearly love their hard sci-fi. And I want the actress playing Avasarala to purr in my ear.

Glad to have some episodic sci-fi to look forward to, now that Continuum has wrapped its loose ends.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 01:42 (five years ago) link

Winchell Chung, creator of the terrific hard sci-fi resource Atomic Rockets, gives The Expanse his Seal of Approval. I agree with every word.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Friday, 19 February 2016 04:51 (five years ago) link

can't believe we have to wait 9 months to find out what the hell is going on

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:40 (five years ago) link

if only there was like a whole bunch of books based on the tv show but like that actually ran ahead of the tv show that we could read

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Sunday, 21 February 2016 06:14 (five years ago) link

wait did continuum turn out to be good? the pilot was kinda rough and i never saw more

adam, Sunday, 21 February 2016 14:23 (five years ago) link

It was better than any time-travelling cop series had a right to be, and while the budgets shranked, the writing became more interesting. I'll be frank, though: My initial attraction was Rachel Nichols in a cat suit.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Sunday, 21 February 2016 15:30 (five years ago) link

guys i watched the first episode and.... really?

"UN BLACK OPS SITE"

space sex

COOL FEDORA GUY

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:52 (five years ago) link

it was like every crap 90s 'graphic novel' cliche throwd into one

only thing i liked apart from the awesome opening exposition title cards was the tense horror movie stuff p much

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:55 (five years ago) link

ok i've actually read the thread now and

People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!
- that was cool

made-up accent that no one has - it's supposed to be a kind of 'third world' Belter accent, right? to hammer home the allegory of the exploited other-class?

'flip n burn' was pretty good

GAH I DON'T KNOW

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:58 (five years ago) link

I've read (and really) enjoyed all the pulpy popcorn books & novellas and thought the first episode was pretty ropey. However, it gets much better and by the end is easily one of the best sci-fi shows in years and probably the best thing SyFy have done since BG.

groovypanda, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:24 (five years ago) link

space sex only happens in the first episode because there's an unwritten rule now that all tv pilots need sexual content regardless of the tone of the show

ciderpress, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:37 (five years ago) link

By ep 4 it starts getting really good afaict

It has been distracting seeing my doppelganger the medic

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:22 (five years ago) link

I couldn't get past the first ep of this, might give it another shot.

calzino, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:32 (five years ago) link

the other recent new SyFy show The Magicians (which is imo better than The Expanse) ALSO had gravity-defying midair sex in the pilot

some dude, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:40 (five years ago) link

I like both shows a lot, nice to see SyFy step it up

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:41 (five years ago) link

I've read all the Magicians books too and whilst I'm enjoying the show, I think The Expanse is much better.

Do they go out at different times in the States? It's noticeable that whilst Avasarala is very foul mouthed in the books, on the show she's not whereas The Magicians seems to have no problems dropping in the f-word several times each episode.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:20 (five years ago) link

There's been a recent trend towards series that air on non-sweary networks to throw in curses they can't actually air and just blank them out. (This is especially glaring on American Crime, where - I assume as a deliberate aesthetic choice - every "fuck" is announced with a few frames of completely blacked-out screen.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:52 (five years ago) link

I assume it's because they know/hope the unedited versions will be available on DVD

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 17:07 (five years ago) link

will probably remain under-lit tho

mookieproof, Monday, 6 September 2021 01:25 (one month ago) link

yep. adds necessary moodiness

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 September 2021 01:53 (one month ago) link

besides the characters yet to appear “light up the screen all on their own” (robin leach voice)

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 September 2021 01:54 (one month ago) link

Heh, lighting has actually improved, even whilst remaining somewhat twilit.

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 September 2021 02:32 (one month ago) link

you’ll want underlighting on all your shows when you’re done: regular tv will require sunglasses

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 September 2021 02:42 (one month ago) link

Heh

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 September 2021 15:33 (one month ago) link

forgot about the hole in the cathode layer

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 September 2021 15:46 (one month ago) link

S1E4&5 were good as you say and am now officially into this and on E6. Anderson Dawes has an accent like Hugh Masekela.

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 September 2021 21:07 (one month ago) link

yeah once the SPOILER Martian warship that took them hostage gets wasted and they barely escape AGAIN, the story really gets going

sleeve, Monday, 6 September 2021 23:08 (one month ago) link

it's different interesting in that they fool you into what the main narrative is going to be for the first season.

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:22 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

The scene where Nico shows Gunny how to walk like a human is so well done.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 2 October 2021 04:15 (two weeks ago) link

Guy Molinari?

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 October 2021 14:38 (two weeks ago) link

Smack dab in the middle of S2, in the episode after the central crescendo, and loving the incredibly crap drawing of the martyr mural.

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 October 2021 00:48 (two weeks ago) link

Just finished S1. My justification for not stopping at this point is I watched all of Battlestar Galactica.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 4 October 2021 01:56 (two weeks ago) link

Fair. Also this is way better than BSG

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 4 October 2021 02:10 (two weeks ago) link

Thought people loved that BSG reboot. At least that's the impression I got over here during the discussion about his more recent show: I come in peace... three times a night -- FOR ALL MANKIND (Apple TV Plus)

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 October 2021 02:31 (two weeks ago) link

people do love the BSG reboot, until the last third

sticking the landing is paramount+

mookieproof, Monday, 4 October 2021 02:41 (two weeks ago) link

Wait there is another, second reboot/third version?

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 October 2021 02:58 (two weeks ago) link

the last third of the second reboot

do keep up, james

(jk)

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 October 2021 03:14 (two weeks ago) link

BSG reboot's last third wouldn't have bothered me so much if every episode's intro to that point hadn't told us that THE CYLONS HAVE A PLAN. If you aren't expecting things to make sense, the last third is more enjoyable

Vinnie, Monday, 4 October 2021 03:31 (two weeks ago) link

Okay, vg, thanks, but I was talking about this

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 October 2021 03:50 (two weeks ago) link



wtf

do keep up, me

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 October 2021 03:55 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe I was confused about Peacock vs. Paramount+.

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 October 2021 03:57 (two weeks ago) link

There were rumors of a third reboot but I don’t think anything has come of it.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 4 October 2021 03:58 (two weeks ago) link

like the villain feels poorly phoned in by ep4-5 of s1- and I hope I’m wrong.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 4 October 2021 04:47 (two weeks ago) link

Who was it at that point? I feel like one of the better things about the show is that for a lot of it there isn’t a villain. Just different people with different goals clashing.

dan selzer, Monday, 4 October 2021 11:13 (two weeks ago) link

It was Avasarala's war-crazy rival at that point, no? He was pretty villainous.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 October 2021 11:19 (two weeks ago) link

Errinwright. Maybe that was S2. Sorry.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 October 2021 11:20 (two weeks ago) link

S1E4: Donnager gets attacked
S1E5: Roci goes to Tycho Station to meet Fred Johnson.

He POLLS So Much About These Zings (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 October 2021 12:32 (two weeks ago) link

Only 6 episodes left in the whole series? :((((

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PJpkGPtAHE

DJI, Friday, 8 October 2021 21:47 (one week ago) link

did they go way over budget on special effects / set design and have to trim the number of episodes? or maybe we get 6 eps at 2 hours each?

that's not my post, Friday, 8 October 2021 22:07 (one week ago) link

you mean if we degrade to Superman 4 fx, we can get like 100 more eps?

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 October 2021 22:08 (one week ago) link

lol probably could upgrade from superman 4 (1987) to maybe mid-2000s fx and still make a full season. or we could do Garth Marenghi's Expanse and have infinite episodes

that's not my post, Friday, 8 October 2021 22:13 (one week ago) link

Lol

DJI, Friday, 8 October 2021 22:16 (one week ago) link

iirc they used about half the content of book 6 in S5 already, which made me wonder what they were going to do to fill 10 episodes. I guess less episodes is one solution

Vinnie, Friday, 8 October 2021 23:26 (one week ago) link

Just wondering how they have a satisfying conclusion, unless it completely deviates from the books (which is entirely possible): the baddies of books 7 and 8 aren't really going to have time to establish themselves.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:43 (one week ago) link

I don't think they've confirmed but it's very likely they won't touch anything after book 6

Vinnie, Saturday, 9 October 2021 01:49 (one week ago) link

I don’t think they’re doing the time jump. Which is fine, they could always revisit it down the road and avoid spending money on aging effects, right?

mh, Saturday, 9 October 2021 14:12 (one week ago) link

is this gonna be like the final final season of Game of Thrones?

sarahell, Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:41 (one week ago) link

It's funny because I usually think less episodes results in higher average quality, but GoT disabused that notion. At least Expanse doesn't have its entire narrative resting on these six episodes

Vinnie, Monday, 11 October 2021 03:08 (one week ago) link

one thing about those last few episodes of game of thrones is that they were basically all feature film length

a doula for creation (Clay), Monday, 11 October 2021 03:17 (one week ago) link

My only complaint about possibly ending it before the time jump that happened in the books is that Marcos might end up being the final villain. Marcos doesn’t deserve that! He’s such a shithead.

mh, Monday, 11 October 2021 14:57 (one week ago) link

i couldn't finish the most recent season, largely because there was a lot of belter dialogue and man sometimes that accent sounds right and sometimes it's just so, so cringey

gbx, Monday, 11 October 2021 15:00 (one week ago) link

you could even say sometimes…. it sucks the big felota

Tracer Hand, Monday, 11 October 2021 17:28 (one week ago) link

careful saying that around the beltalowda

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 11 October 2021 17:31 (one week ago) link

i chalk up the cringiness to belter culture tbh - i mean, tribal tatts? come on man

Tracer Hand, Monday, 11 October 2021 17:43 (one week ago) link

Just got to Amos's "I'm that guy" moment, incredible that it works instead of being a cheesy action movie line because of the work they've done on Amos's character and the look on the actor's face when Prax calls him his best friend.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 11 October 2021 19:01 (one week ago) link

My favorite group of characters (except for the Secretary-General/Errinwright who are too one-dimensional) since Deadwood.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 11 October 2021 19:02 (one week ago) link

That TY and that Guy Podcast is quite interesting. Th9ough I haven't got very far with it. Listened to episode 4 a few days ago.

Stevolende, Monday, 11 October 2021 19:25 (one week ago) link


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