Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

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"Set in a future where humanity has colonized the Solar System, it follows police detective Miller (Thomas Jane), ship's officer Jim Holden (Steven Strait), and his crew as they unravel a conspiracy that threatens peace across the System and the survival of humanity."

Reasons to love:

1. Thomas Jane's character is a hopeless dickhead and nobody likes him. By the last episode I watched (ep 5 - ep 6 aired tonight) I felt like the only person rooting for him, and only because I want to find out the answers! I love an irredeemable loser antihero, once in a while. And everybody calls him out on his stupid PUA hat. Which I think he wears mostly because his haircut is even worse. Good stuff.

2. Jared Harris speaking in a completely made-up space person accent (that no other character has?!?) and being an ice cold asteroid gangster! I should not have to go on!

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

4. the Martian Congressional Republic Navy, is a thing

5. a pretty important main character named "Fred Johnson" - science fiction, everybody

6. OK I guess the big draw is the space political thriller angle but you know what? Spaceships and crappy space detectives and gangsters in space. The UN and Mars and Belter Independence stuff or whatever is just kind of background noise imo.

*basically as far as I can tell they accomplished this, to the extent possible, by casting stocky folks as "Earthers" and rangier folks as "Belters." A for effort.

I can't be the only one watching this, you people are nerds

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 03:51 (six years ago) link

OK, I'm intrigued. Is the writing and acting any good?

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:11 (six years ago) link

Really uneven, but serviceable

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:17 (six years ago) link

this is pretty exciting so far, though i agree it works better as a sci-fi noir than as a political thriller

also it has Space Mormons

ciderpress, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:39 (five years ago) link

Oh yes who could forget the LDS contracting to build a gigantic colony ship!

Why does Athena Karkanis' character care so much about Miller? Are they going to explain that at some point?

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:07 (five years ago) link

definitely the most promising SyFy series in a good while, although the pilot held my attention a lot more than the subsequent episodes

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:10 (five years ago) link

i read and remember nothing of the book (first in a series i believe) except that it felt like screenplay bait. one of the pseudonymous authors is one of george r r martin's attendants

https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj11ztijdh1qhhbv2o1_500.jpg

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:19 (five years ago) link

show is good tho, sometimes it feels pleasingly cheap (drinks in a space bar that looked chintzier than ten forward, a future montana ranch house that looks a whole lot like a 21st century montana ranch house)

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:20 (five years ago) link

Started the book, solid B so far

calstars, Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:32 (five years ago) link

most recent episode was super tense, v good imo

ciderpress, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:31 (five years ago) link

i just started watching this --- i like it for all the above reasons

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 30 January 2016 23:10 (five years ago) link

I got kinda bored midway through the pilot (soooo much exposition) can I jump in a bit later or

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:13 (five years ago) link

nah it moves pretty fast except for maybe one ep in the middle of the season i forget which. if you didn't like the pilot then idk

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:51 (five years ago) link

maybe moving fast is the wrong way to say it since the 2 main plots for most of the season are detective investigation and space survival neither of which involve a lot of direct conflict, but i never got the feeling of it being stretched out like i do with a lot of shows

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:55 (five years ago) link

I've been watching it... really enjoyed the most recent episode, promises to be a good finale

Feels more like Chinatown In Space than anything

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:21 (five years ago) link

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:23 (five years ago) link

in space, no one can hear you

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:34 (five years ago) link

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:23 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thomas Jane went to the space barber and said "give me the Gary Oldman in Fifth Element"

77 lines about 77 albums i haven't heard (some dude), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:19 (five years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:39 (five years ago) link

Make me look like I used to own a skate shop

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:40 (five years ago) link

lolol

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:03 (five years ago) link

i admit that I got a bit bored with all the worldbuilding, and that fake southern?/texan? dude who talks to spaceship computers like they're truckstop waitresses was almost a bridge too far... but I appreciate having a halfway decent scifi show on SyFy again so I am not complaining

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 00:25 (five years ago) link

the books are good n' popcorny. kind of a shame that the TV series starts w/ the first novel, which is definitely the worst of the whole shebang.

remy bean, Monday, 1 February 2016 02:31 (five years ago) link

So the second-to-last episode of Season 1 spends a LOT of time inside a derelict and it is great creepy television. I loved how they mixed the soundtrack low so you're really just listening to magnetic boots on metal gangplanks almost the entire time, which you then realize is also the only thing any of the characters can hear.

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:36 (five years ago) link

I was gonna watch this but Hulu won't let me watch on TV. Booooo

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 8 February 2016 19:51 (five years ago) link

i watched it at syfy's website

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:00 (five years ago) link

oh wait missed the "on TV" part n/m

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:01 (five years ago) link

amos and the UN lady are both super compelling actors, look forward to more of this show

adam, Monday, 8 February 2016 20:13 (five years ago) link

One small nitpick - the action sequence towards the end (of the second to last episode) was a little choppy. I rewound it a few times and still had to just make some assumptions about how a couple things happened / who did what. Even then - how did that grenade not go off?

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:16 (five years ago) link

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

also a pleasingly hard sci fi plausible-ish near future involving asteroid mining and no (at least so far) fanciful alien species or completely out there tech. like it seems like space travel actually involves orbital mechanics in this

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 23:31 (five years ago) link

finale 2-parter was great

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 04:55 (five years ago) link

xp yeah one of the things i like most about this show is that it really gives a sense of how fragile humanity in space is

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:09 (five years ago) link

Just binged. Its been such a desert for good space sci-fi that I didn't look too closely for seams. The gumshoe with the dodgy haircut was the comic relief, some good character actors in the bit roles, the sets are appropriately gritty and/or antiseptic, the effects crew clearly communicate the lonely peril of deep space, and the show runners are clearly love their hard sci-fi. And I want the actress playing Avasarala to purr in my ear.

Glad to have some episodic sci-fi to look forward to, now that Continuum has wrapped its loose ends.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 01:42 (five years ago) link

Winchell Chung, creator of the terrific hard sci-fi resource Atomic Rockets, gives The Expanse his Seal of Approval. I agree with every word.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Friday, 19 February 2016 04:51 (five years ago) link

can't believe we have to wait 9 months to find out what the hell is going on

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:40 (five years ago) link

if only there was like a whole bunch of books based on the tv show but like that actually ran ahead of the tv show that we could read

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Sunday, 21 February 2016 06:14 (five years ago) link

wait did continuum turn out to be good? the pilot was kinda rough and i never saw more

adam, Sunday, 21 February 2016 14:23 (five years ago) link

It was better than any time-travelling cop series had a right to be, and while the budgets shranked, the writing became more interesting. I'll be frank, though: My initial attraction was Rachel Nichols in a cat suit.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Sunday, 21 February 2016 15:30 (five years ago) link

guys i watched the first episode and.... really?

"UN BLACK OPS SITE"

space sex

COOL FEDORA GUY

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:52 (five years ago) link

it was like every crap 90s 'graphic novel' cliche throwd into one

only thing i liked apart from the awesome opening exposition title cards was the tense horror movie stuff p much

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:55 (five years ago) link

ok i've actually read the thread now and

People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!
- that was cool

made-up accent that no one has - it's supposed to be a kind of 'third world' Belter accent, right? to hammer home the allegory of the exploited other-class?

'flip n burn' was pretty good

GAH I DON'T KNOW

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:58 (five years ago) link

I've read (and really) enjoyed all the pulpy popcorn books & novellas and thought the first episode was pretty ropey. However, it gets much better and by the end is easily one of the best sci-fi shows in years and probably the best thing SyFy have done since BG.

groovypanda, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:24 (five years ago) link

space sex only happens in the first episode because there's an unwritten rule now that all tv pilots need sexual content regardless of the tone of the show

ciderpress, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:37 (five years ago) link

By ep 4 it starts getting really good afaict

It has been distracting seeing my doppelganger the medic

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:22 (five years ago) link

I couldn't get past the first ep of this, might give it another shot.

calzino, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:32 (five years ago) link

the other recent new SyFy show The Magicians (which is imo better than The Expanse) ALSO had gravity-defying midair sex in the pilot

some dude, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:40 (five years ago) link

I like both shows a lot, nice to see SyFy step it up

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:41 (five years ago) link

I've read all the Magicians books too and whilst I'm enjoying the show, I think The Expanse is much better.

Do they go out at different times in the States? It's noticeable that whilst Avasarala is very foul mouthed in the books, on the show she's not whereas The Magicians seems to have no problems dropping in the f-word several times each episode.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:20 (five years ago) link

There's been a recent trend towards series that air on non-sweary networks to throw in curses they can't actually air and just blank them out. (This is especially glaring on American Crime, where - I assume as a deliberate aesthetic choice - every "fuck" is announced with a few frames of completely blacked-out screen.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:52 (five years ago) link

I assume it's because they know/hope the unedited versions will be available on DVD

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 17:07 (five years ago) link

Well, what am I supposed to do with my life now?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 January 2022 03:17 (six days ago) link

I was enjoying the ride of bad ass space battles but after the ring magic destroyed the Pella and they cut to Naomi I did get teary eyed. Otoh she did seem to get over it quickly

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 15 January 2022 03:35 (six days ago) link

loved Marco going dutchman

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 January 2022 03:36 (six days ago) link

VEER OFF

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 January 2022 03:36 (six days ago) link

Tbf between Naomi breaking down and the next time we see her, months have probably passed.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 January 2022 05:51 (six days ago) link

Well, what am I supposed to do with my life now?

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― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal),

I’d prefer something with believable characters.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 January 2022 07:10 (six days ago) link

Can't remember the last time I was this bummed a show was ending. Sucks so hard this season couldn't have been twice as long.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 15 January 2022 19:21 (six days ago) link

i'm told that d. idaho and e. ripley were among the members of the assault team

mookieproof, Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:06 (six days ago) link

When you're done watching The Expanse series finale pic.twitter.com/i9QLGtN4Vq

— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) January 15, 2022

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:35 (six days ago) link

ok so where does the zombie kid story arc go now? it was boring and i dont actually care but it feels like a loose end or was i out of the room for something

mark s, Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:42 (six days ago) link

I assume those were protomolecule-infused 'dogs' doing the zombification and the planet would be a major storyline if the show got picked up elsewhere.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:45 (six days ago) link

I think it was obliquely referenced in Holden's "we still don't know what happened to that missing protomolecule sample" and maybe the blue glimmering ship we saw? and the guy cutting Marco off?

all sorta handled by Naomi's "can we just worry about this later" (when there is a sequel?)

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bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:45 (six days ago) link

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bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:45 (six days ago) link

Short of an Expanse continuation, I'd like some kind of comedy series starring the actors who played Amos and Bobbie with Avasarala as a wacky neighbor.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:49 (six days ago) link

RIP the many science fiction franchises that meet their end when their leads die during the assault on Medina Station. pic.twitter.com/jYfOEMbP7S

— Chris Barrus (@quartzcity) January 15, 2022

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:50 (six days ago) link

The zombie kids are on Laconia, the planet colonized by the Mars navy defectors led by Duarte. The blue glowing ship thing was briefly mentioned as a dormant orbital platform left there by a prior civilization.

That prior civilization had some protomolecule stuff going on, and Duarte was given the sample in exchange for a lot of armaments and ships he traded to Marco.

I’m fine with having set that stuff up, not because it leaves the door open for more tv episodes, but due to the fact it leaves the world open. Holden and company aren’t creating some utopia, just addressing the challenges that continually pop up given the world the show’s created. Whether we see those stories as not, the universe is going to keep changing.

mh, Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:58 (six days ago) link

ok sure but why was it so boring

mark s, Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:00 (six days ago) link

it's worse than the blue wizards (also ptoro-molecule-related iirc)

mark s, Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:01 (six days ago) link

fair

it’s the protomolecule curse, the more reasonable people use it to advance their material science a little and make new armor for ships and some gradual advances, the opportunistic and narcissistic will try to grab the golden ring and boast about how they’re going to fight gods (whoever nuked the prior protomolecule civilization)

mh, Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:08 (six days ago) link

ok sure but why was it so boring

Because it was centered around annoying children (redundant, I know).

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:22 (six days ago) link

got to agree with both of you here, zombie kids was tedious

calzino, Saturday, 15 January 2022 22:46 (six days ago) link

i was carefully *not* reading the thread bcz i was coming to lots of it way late and i see everyone else already thought this many times

tbh i need to go back and rewatch the last 3 series with my legendary "metaphysics of scale" thesis in mind once more

mark s, Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:18 (six days ago) link

the entire zombie kids arc would have been redeemed if zombie bro entered the house and started zapping them all with his eyes

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:25 (six days ago) link

real monkey's paw shit

they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:33 (six days ago) link

or started talking to the revived orbiting station, yeah anything

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:41 (six days ago) link

I didn't mind the zombie kid thing because I did see it as an opportunity for the series to perhaps be spun off in another direction, which would be nice. Not many shows have captivated my attention the way this one has over the past few months.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:45 (six days ago) link

people who have read the books: is there enough material left for another season/series/final movie?

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:51 (six days ago) link

There's enough left for three seasons.

Wordle Stephen Curry II (Leee), Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:58 (six days ago) link

:O

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Sunday, 16 January 2022 00:25 (five days ago) link

Extremely much so.

Technically, the last couple of pages of the last book could be turned into a 10-season spin-off with a central character that would make most people round here extremely happy.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 16 January 2022 00:31 (five days ago) link

it was a pretty exciting/moving finale, lots of nice moments w everyone

i’m kinda glad now that it wasn’t a bloodbath - i thought it was just going to be kamikaze full out w bobby & amos & was like oh no wait wait i dont want everyone to die noooo - i was v relieved!!!

loved all those easter eggs in the assault team names, we had fun figuring some of them out (missed a lot tho!)

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 January 2022 06:10 (five days ago) link

my friend told me that in the post-credits there wasn't a 'scene' (obviously), but a "hint" of something. anybody know what he's talking about? I'm afraid to ask him and seem like dummy.

no idea?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 January 2022 06:40 (five days ago) link

Shockingly satisfying finale given the shortened season and wasting 15% of each episode on the zombification dogs.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 16 January 2022 07:01 (five days ago) link

Glad Bobbie and Amos didn’t go out like Gordo and Tracey

that's not my post, Sunday, 16 January 2022 07:36 (five days ago) link

Neanderthal, at the very end of the credits sequence with the ring gate image, you see it start to fleck red and then a big fucking Laconian protomolecule-tech ship starts to emerge.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 16 January 2022 11:17 (five days ago) link

if they're going with zombies as plot then based on all TV shows i've ever watched abt zombies there's enough for an infinite number of new series which i will not be watching

mark s, Sunday, 16 January 2022 11:33 (five days ago) link

Got into this show very late and pretty much binged all six seasons in the past couple of months. Very sad it’s done - very few series have lasted this long and still remained enjoyable to watch.

Liked the callback to the Cant (the Roci is travelling with an ice hauler carrying the assault team) and the quiet moments among the team.

It is a little unsatisfying though that after opening up all those portals, we only got to see two new planets, both of which were frankly pretty boring. If there are spinoffs, I hope they’ll get a chance to do those better. and of course, would love it if Drummer got her own show.

Roz, Sunday, 16 January 2022 11:50 (five days ago) link

There's a final trilogy of books so plenty of material left for a future season(s) xps

For those who've only watched the show, you could just read those final three books if you wanted to see how the story finishes (and how zombie dogs fit in) as the show has been pretty faithful to the books, especially in terms of main plot (one character death aside).

groovypanda, Sunday, 16 January 2022 13:46 (five days ago) link

i think sic posted a videogame starring Cara Gee as Drummer?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 January 2022 14:13 (five days ago) link

Ah thanks, I must have missed that, haven’t read through the whole thread

Roz, Sunday, 16 January 2022 15:08 (five days ago) link

here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c27FGhsT7kI

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 January 2022 15:48 (five days ago) link

Not only enough material for more seasons, but books 7 and 8 stand up with the best of the books imo. If any show-only fans are interested, I think it's quite easy to just start reading from book 7 - the show has revealed everything you need to know

Vinnie, Sunday, 16 January 2022 16:18 (five days ago) link

Oops I see groovypanda made that point already

Vinnie, Sunday, 16 January 2022 16:18 (five days ago) link

Mark S, they're not zombies, if that's putting you off the books. Those resurrected by the "dogs" retain their memories and rationality and sentience and have continuity of personality and are not infectious or violent (any more than they used to be); they DO have altered physiology and perceptions.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 17 January 2022 06:48 (four days ago) link

yeah dont worry JM i was just making a dumb and hostile joek abt a very little going a very long way in zombie-based dramas

which are bad not good btw

mark s, Monday, 17 January 2022 09:35 (four days ago) link

i want the drummer spin-off

thery can call it "SAME drummer"

mark s, Monday, 17 January 2022 09:36 (four days ago) link

funky drummer

Camina Drummer get some?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 17 January 2022 14:34 (four days ago) link


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