Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

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"Set in a future where humanity has colonized the Solar System, it follows police detective Miller (Thomas Jane), ship's officer Jim Holden (Steven Strait), and his crew as they unravel a conspiracy that threatens peace across the System and the survival of humanity."

Reasons to love:

1. Thomas Jane's character is a hopeless dickhead and nobody likes him. By the last episode I watched (ep 5 - ep 6 aired tonight) I felt like the only person rooting for him, and only because I want to find out the answers! I love an irredeemable loser antihero, once in a while. And everybody calls him out on his stupid PUA hat. Which I think he wears mostly because his haircut is even worse. Good stuff.

2. Jared Harris speaking in a completely made-up space person accent (that no other character has?!?) and being an ice cold asteroid gangster! I should not have to go on!

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

4. the Martian Congressional Republic Navy, is a thing

5. a pretty important main character named "Fred Johnson" - science fiction, everybody

6. OK I guess the big draw is the space political thriller angle but you know what? Spaceships and crappy space detectives and gangsters in space. The UN and Mars and Belter Independence stuff or whatever is just kind of background noise imo.

*basically as far as I can tell they accomplished this, to the extent possible, by casting stocky folks as "Earthers" and rangier folks as "Belters." A for effort.

I can't be the only one watching this, you people are nerds

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 03:51 (three years ago) Permalink

OK, I'm intrigued. Is the writing and acting any good?

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:11 (three years ago) Permalink

Really uneven, but serviceable

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:17 (three years ago) Permalink

this is pretty exciting so far, though i agree it works better as a sci-fi noir than as a political thriller

also it has Space Mormons

ciderpress, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh yes who could forget the LDS contracting to build a gigantic colony ship!

Why does Athena Karkanis' character care so much about Miller? Are they going to explain that at some point?

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:07 (three years ago) Permalink

definitely the most promising SyFy series in a good while, although the pilot held my attention a lot more than the subsequent episodes

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:10 (three years ago) Permalink

i read and remember nothing of the book (first in a series i believe) except that it felt like screenplay bait. one of the pseudonymous authors is one of george r r martin's attendants

https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj11ztijdh1qhhbv2o1_500.jpg

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:19 (three years ago) Permalink

show is good tho, sometimes it feels pleasingly cheap (drinks in a space bar that looked chintzier than ten forward, a future montana ranch house that looks a whole lot like a 21st century montana ranch house)

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:20 (three years ago) Permalink

Started the book, solid B so far

calstars, Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:32 (three years ago) Permalink

most recent episode was super tense, v good imo

ciderpress, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:31 (three years ago) Permalink

i just started watching this --- i like it for all the above reasons

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 30 January 2016 23:10 (three years ago) Permalink

I got kinda bored midway through the pilot (soooo much exposition) can I jump in a bit later or

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:13 (three years ago) Permalink

nah it moves pretty fast except for maybe one ep in the middle of the season i forget which. if you didn't like the pilot then idk

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:51 (three years ago) Permalink

maybe moving fast is the wrong way to say it since the 2 main plots for most of the season are detective investigation and space survival neither of which involve a lot of direct conflict, but i never got the feeling of it being stretched out like i do with a lot of shows

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:55 (three years ago) Permalink

I've been watching it... really enjoyed the most recent episode, promises to be a good finale

Feels more like Chinatown In Space than anything

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:21 (three years ago) Permalink

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:23 (three years ago) Permalink

in space, no one can hear you

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:34 (three years ago) Permalink

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:23 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thomas Jane went to the space barber and said "give me the Gary Oldman in Fifth Element"

77 lines about 77 albums i haven't heard (some dude), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:19 (three years ago) Permalink

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:39 (three years ago) Permalink

Make me look like I used to own a skate shop

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:40 (three years ago) Permalink

lolol

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:03 (three years ago) Permalink

i admit that I got a bit bored with all the worldbuilding, and that fake southern?/texan? dude who talks to spaceship computers like they're truckstop waitresses was almost a bridge too far... but I appreciate having a halfway decent scifi show on SyFy again so I am not complaining

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 00:25 (three years ago) Permalink

the books are good n' popcorny. kind of a shame that the TV series starts w/ the first novel, which is definitely the worst of the whole shebang.

remy bean, Monday, 1 February 2016 02:31 (three years ago) Permalink

So the second-to-last episode of Season 1 spends a LOT of time inside a derelict and it is great creepy television. I loved how they mixed the soundtrack low so you're really just listening to magnetic boots on metal gangplanks almost the entire time, which you then realize is also the only thing any of the characters can hear.

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:36 (three years ago) Permalink

I was gonna watch this but Hulu won't let me watch on TV. Booooo

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 8 February 2016 19:51 (three years ago) Permalink

i watched it at syfy's website

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:00 (three years ago) Permalink

oh wait missed the "on TV" part n/m

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:01 (three years ago) Permalink

amos and the UN lady are both super compelling actors, look forward to more of this show

adam, Monday, 8 February 2016 20:13 (three years ago) Permalink

One small nitpick - the action sequence towards the end (of the second to last episode) was a little choppy. I rewound it a few times and still had to just make some assumptions about how a couple things happened / who did what. Even then - how did that grenade not go off?

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:16 (three years ago) Permalink

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

also a pleasingly hard sci fi plausible-ish near future involving asteroid mining and no (at least so far) fanciful alien species or completely out there tech. like it seems like space travel actually involves orbital mechanics in this

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 23:31 (three years ago) Permalink

finale 2-parter was great

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 04:55 (three years ago) Permalink

xp yeah one of the things i like most about this show is that it really gives a sense of how fragile humanity in space is

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:09 (three years ago) Permalink

Just binged. Its been such a desert for good space sci-fi that I didn't look too closely for seams. The gumshoe with the dodgy haircut was the comic relief, some good character actors in the bit roles, the sets are appropriately gritty and/or antiseptic, the effects crew clearly communicate the lonely peril of deep space, and the show runners are clearly love their hard sci-fi. And I want the actress playing Avasarala to purr in my ear.

Glad to have some episodic sci-fi to look forward to, now that Continuum has wrapped its loose ends.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 01:42 (three years ago) Permalink

Winchell Chung, creator of the terrific hard sci-fi resource Atomic Rockets, gives The Expanse his Seal of Approval. I agree with every word.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Friday, 19 February 2016 04:51 (three years ago) Permalink

can't believe we have to wait 9 months to find out what the hell is going on

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:40 (three years ago) Permalink

if only there was like a whole bunch of books based on the tv show but like that actually ran ahead of the tv show that we could read

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Sunday, 21 February 2016 06:14 (three years ago) Permalink

wait did continuum turn out to be good? the pilot was kinda rough and i never saw more

adam, Sunday, 21 February 2016 14:23 (three years ago) Permalink

It was better than any time-travelling cop series had a right to be, and while the budgets shranked, the writing became more interesting. I'll be frank, though: My initial attraction was Rachel Nichols in a cat suit.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Sunday, 21 February 2016 15:30 (three years ago) Permalink

guys i watched the first episode and.... really?

"UN BLACK OPS SITE"

space sex

COOL FEDORA GUY

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:52 (three years ago) Permalink

it was like every crap 90s 'graphic novel' cliche throwd into one

only thing i liked apart from the awesome opening exposition title cards was the tense horror movie stuff p much

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:55 (three years ago) Permalink

ok i've actually read the thread now and

People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!
- that was cool

made-up accent that no one has - it's supposed to be a kind of 'third world' Belter accent, right? to hammer home the allegory of the exploited other-class?

'flip n burn' was pretty good

GAH I DON'T KNOW

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:58 (three years ago) Permalink

I've read (and really) enjoyed all the pulpy popcorn books & novellas and thought the first episode was pretty ropey. However, it gets much better and by the end is easily one of the best sci-fi shows in years and probably the best thing SyFy have done since BG.

groovypanda, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:24 (three years ago) Permalink

space sex only happens in the first episode because there's an unwritten rule now that all tv pilots need sexual content regardless of the tone of the show

ciderpress, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:37 (three years ago) Permalink

By ep 4 it starts getting really good afaict

It has been distracting seeing my doppelganger the medic

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:22 (three years ago) Permalink

I couldn't get past the first ep of this, might give it another shot.

calzino, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:32 (three years ago) Permalink

the other recent new SyFy show The Magicians (which is imo better than The Expanse) ALSO had gravity-defying midair sex in the pilot

some dude, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:40 (three years ago) Permalink

I like both shows a lot, nice to see SyFy step it up

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:41 (three years ago) Permalink

I've read all the Magicians books too and whilst I'm enjoying the show, I think The Expanse is much better.

Do they go out at different times in the States? It's noticeable that whilst Avasarala is very foul mouthed in the books, on the show she's not whereas The Magicians seems to have no problems dropping in the f-word several times each episode.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:20 (three years ago) Permalink

There's been a recent trend towards series that air on non-sweary networks to throw in curses they can't actually air and just blank them out. (This is especially glaring on American Crime, where - I assume as a deliberate aesthetic choice - every "fuck" is announced with a few frames of completely blacked-out screen.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:52 (three years ago) Permalink

I assume it's because they know/hope the unedited versions will be available on DVD

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 17:07 (three years ago) Permalink

m/l the same to all this

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

m/l? Is that "much love?"

DJI, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

more or less

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

there is a point early in the 1st season where it Gets Real and it never really lets up after that

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

That rules

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 10:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

Cara Gee can smile! And has actual eyes!

Nag Reddit (Leee), Tuesday, 25 September 2018 17:39 (eight months ago) Permalink

I've watched the first season and read the first book, and dug them both. But should I carry on with the books or the show???

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 21:12 (eight months ago) Permalink

FWIW, I watched the show first. Started in on the books but bailed out somewhere in book 2 - I'm super-snobby about my SF so that was not unexpected.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 06:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

I've watched the first season and read the first book, and dug them both. But should I carry on with the books or the show???

I kind of feel that having read the books ruined this last season for me.

Deontology Sanders (Leee), Monday, 8 October 2018 20:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

But which would you rather have ruined?

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 8 October 2018 21:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

Recommend the audiobooks. Jefferson Mays pretty much nailed the characters prior to the broadcast series' casting. Just listen far enough in advance that you've largely forgotten the details before airing. The books aren't timeless classic, just better than average space opera, but if you like the universe and characters, the books add to the immersion, particularly with respect to Miller in S1-S2.

I expect that that the broadcast series will take enormous divergences with the content of book 4, Cibola Burn, which is by general fan consensus the least-liked book. I think pretty much all of book 4's contribution to the overall arc could be provided by reading the handful of pages upon which the word "Miller" appears from an ebook. Several of the novellas offered more backstory than book 4.

My hope is that S4 will cover Cibola Burn as a half-season, alongside some material presaging book 5-6 arc within the solar system, and the wider book 7-9 arc that's still emerging. This still leaves enough time for another entirely novel narrative amidst the Expanse, beyond the rings, as well as ending S4 after a book 5 cliffhanger.

godless hippie skank (Sanpaku), Monday, 8 October 2018 21:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

GUYS GUYS GUYSSS! Season 3 goes worldwide Feb 8th on @PrimeVideo #FINALLY #TheExpanse 🚀🚀🚀 https://t.co/zAnejuofLC

— Dominique Tipper (@Mi55Tipper) January 22, 2019

groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:44 (four months ago) Permalink

nice

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:44 (four months ago) Permalink

amazon prime.
bastards.
other seasons were released on Netflix in the uk.

mark e, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:11 (four months ago) Permalink

Guess it was kind of inevitable once Amazon stepped up to save the show.

And all future seasons will be on Prime

groovypanda, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 20:10 (four months ago) Permalink

My impression is that Amazon also obtained rights to S1-3 from Netflix in jurisdictions where it formerly aired. There's going to be a big marketing push over the next 6 months or so.

dancing the Radioactive Flesh (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 22:23 (four months ago) Permalink

hell yea

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 20:25 (four months ago) Permalink

Amazon launched a new twitter for updates:

You helped #SaveTheExpanse. Next month, #TheExpanse finds its new home on Amazon @PrimeVideo. Binge all three seasons starting Feb 8: https://t.co/4EYd54z6st pic.twitter.com/a0yOk2BXG2

— The Expanse (@ExpanseOnPrime) January 23, 2019

dancing the Radioactive Flesh (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 23 January 2019 23:16 (four months ago) Permalink

Hurry up with season 4

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 24 January 2019 00:21 (four months ago) Permalink

aw what a delightful promo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 January 2019 02:41 (four months ago) Permalink

Holden w the scruff!!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 January 2019 09:55 (four months ago) Permalink

When is season 4 due?

Wondering if I've got time to rewatch the first three beforehand

groovypanda, Thursday, 24 January 2019 09:58 (four months ago) Permalink

OF COURSE YOU DO

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 January 2019 10:07 (four months ago) Permalink

you make time, buddy

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 25 January 2019 23:55 (four months ago) Permalink

Looks like we're definitely getting Cibola Burn then

Introducing Adolphus Murtry. Welcome to #TheExpanse Season 4, @burngorman. pic.twitter.com/pp5kJlgi7q

— The Expanse (@ExpanseOnPrime) February 7, 2019

groovypanda, Thursday, 7 February 2019 14:59 (four months ago) Permalink

as a burn gorman stan i am ready for this

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 8 February 2019 21:43 (four months ago) Permalink

Season 3 is up on Prime now (went up yesterday in the US I think). Gonna check it out soon.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 8 February 2019 23:27 (four months ago) Permalink

Just watched the whole season over a couple long couch sessions, I take back anything bad I've said about this during S2, it's great

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:00 (four months ago) Permalink

as a burn gorman stan i am ready for this

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, February 8, 2019 1:43 PM (two days ago)

MY MAN!!!!

sarahell, Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:01 (four months ago) Permalink

Burn!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:26 (four months ago) Permalink

For any Burn fan who hasn't seen it.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 11 February 2019 00:21 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Glad Cara Gee has risen to the stature of UN secretary/Roci crew/authors/showrunner with Drummer.

Though honestly I wasn't sure it wasn't Nadine Nicole (Clarissa) before looking closely. The racoon makeup is iconic.

with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Thursday, 28 March 2019 23:38 (two months ago) Permalink

BRING BACK JARED HARRIS.

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 March 2019 00:25 (two months ago) Permalink

yes!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 March 2019 00:47 (two months ago) Permalink

He left S3 for AMC's The Terror (highly recommended). He'll be back.

with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Friday, 29 March 2019 01:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Must watch The Terror. I really enjoyed the novel.

chap, Friday, 29 March 2019 10:30 (two months ago) Permalink

it’s v good

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2019 13:59 (two months ago) Permalink

I hope we get more Jared Harris in The Crown tbh.

LEOPLOD BLOOMPS (Leee), Friday, 29 March 2019 16:18 (two months ago) Permalink

TS: Richard or Jared.

with Chew Guard™ technology (Sanpaku), Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Up to Season 3 on the rewatch. So good.

Was wondering as this was now Amazon, we're going to get all of Season 4 in one go, yes?

Think their only weekly releases are their exclusives of shows that are on weekly on US TV.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 08:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Honestly, I'd prefer if Amazon and other streaming services presented their serialized/episodic series on a one episode per week schedule, if only to preserve the "social event" nature of broadcast TV.

I don't think any streaming series has sparked the amount of water cooler talk that everyone in the fanbase, awaiting the next installment, can. There's a degree of anticipation that comes with serialized output, that's ill served when its squeezed out at once, just a miniseries/movie, too long for one sitting. The internet's going to be ablaze for a week wondering how (for example) Jon Snow gets out of a cliffhanger, and that's a good thing for the show, the broadcaster, and the viewership.

If the Amazon et al tried this, those who wished to binge could of course do so, 10-14 weeks later, but will have to avoid spoilers online. Those who want to watch with their friends anywhere on the planet, as a common focus to pleasant conversation, and without so much concern about seeing spoilers, can follow episode by episode on the day of release.

Kardashev scale sex tape (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 3 April 2019 08:56 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'd much rather a weekly release.

I haven't got the time to binge 10 or 13 episodes over one weekend but there are plenty of people who will and then spoilers will be out there.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 09:01 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Fun thread:

pic.twitter.com/6h5aoXDfVx

— Cas Anvar (@Casanvar) May 7, 2019

nonsense upon stilts (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 19:13 (one month ago) Permalink

(Non-book spoilers FYI)

Finally caught up with this, really liked the Ring plotline, the disaster recovery episode was amazing and totally sold me on how much space sucks. My only complaint is that a lot of the character arcs and dialogue in the finale seemed off. Ashford in particular, I get that they were trying to make him a noble antagonist but but it really seemed to come out of nowhere. And Melba, whose storyline has always seemed kinda dumb tbh, asking a stranger if one good deed will make up for a lifetime of bad choices was just awful writing and totally unnecessary.

Can’t wait for the new season though!

JoeStork, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 23:39 (one month ago) Permalink

I dunno he seemed pretty noble from the beginning? To the point where his antagonism could have been construed as purely a consequence of Drummer's POV

At times I've wondered whether Ashford's character was a rewritten Anderson Dawes once they realised Jared Harris had other commitments

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 09:28 (one month ago) Permalink

I probably phrased that badly - it’s not the nobility I object to, it’s that his decisions in the finale are really hard to buy, and it comes off like the writers are using his nobility to justify his bizarre behavior because they need an antagonist to make the episode work.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 15:27 (one month ago) Permalink

I recently had a meeting with a potential client for work and the dude eerily reminded me of Amos. Similar voice and brusque, humorless manner, even looked a bit like him. It was a bit unsettling. As you can probably guess the gig didn’t pan out.

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 18:00 (one month ago) Permalink


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