Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

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"Set in a future where humanity has colonized the Solar System, it follows police detective Miller (Thomas Jane), ship's officer Jim Holden (Steven Strait), and his crew as they unravel a conspiracy that threatens peace across the System and the survival of humanity."

Reasons to love:

1. Thomas Jane's character is a hopeless dickhead and nobody likes him. By the last episode I watched (ep 5 - ep 6 aired tonight) I felt like the only person rooting for him, and only because I want to find out the answers! I love an irredeemable loser antihero, once in a while. And everybody calls him out on his stupid PUA hat. Which I think he wears mostly because his haircut is even worse. Good stuff.

2. Jared Harris speaking in a completely made-up space person accent (that no other character has?!?) and being an ice cold asteroid gangster! I should not have to go on!

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

4. the Martian Congressional Republic Navy, is a thing

5. a pretty important main character named "Fred Johnson" - science fiction, everybody

6. OK I guess the big draw is the space political thriller angle but you know what? Spaceships and crappy space detectives and gangsters in space. The UN and Mars and Belter Independence stuff or whatever is just kind of background noise imo.

*basically as far as I can tell they accomplished this, to the extent possible, by casting stocky folks as "Earthers" and rangier folks as "Belters." A for effort.

I can't be the only one watching this, you people are nerds

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 03:51 (four years ago) link

OK, I'm intrigued. Is the writing and acting any good?

like Uber, but for underpants (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:11 (four years ago) link

Really uneven, but serviceable

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:17 (four years ago) link

this is pretty exciting so far, though i agree it works better as a sci-fi noir than as a political thriller

also it has Space Mormons

ciderpress, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:39 (four years ago) link

Oh yes who could forget the LDS contracting to build a gigantic colony ship!

Why does Athena Karkanis' character care so much about Miller? Are they going to explain that at some point?

service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:07 (four years ago) link

definitely the most promising SyFy series in a good while, although the pilot held my attention a lot more than the subsequent episodes

some dude, Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:10 (four years ago) link

i read and remember nothing of the book (first in a series i believe) except that it felt like screenplay bait. one of the pseudonymous authors is one of george r r martin's attendants

https://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj11ztijdh1qhhbv2o1_500.jpg

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:19 (four years ago) link

show is good tho, sometimes it feels pleasingly cheap (drinks in a space bar that looked chintzier than ten forward, a future montana ranch house that looks a whole lot like a 21st century montana ranch house)

adam, Saturday, 23 January 2016 22:20 (four years ago) link

Started the book, solid B so far

calstars, Saturday, 23 January 2016 23:32 (four years ago) link

most recent episode was super tense, v good imo

ciderpress, Saturday, 30 January 2016 22:31 (four years ago) link

i just started watching this --- i like it for all the above reasons

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 30 January 2016 23:10 (four years ago) link

I got kinda bored midway through the pilot (soooo much exposition) can I jump in a bit later or

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 00:13 (four years ago) link

nah it moves pretty fast except for maybe one ep in the middle of the season i forget which. if you didn't like the pilot then idk

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:51 (four years ago) link

maybe moving fast is the wrong way to say it since the 2 main plots for most of the season are detective investigation and space survival neither of which involve a lot of direct conflict, but i never got the feeling of it being stretched out like i do with a lot of shows

ciderpress, Sunday, 31 January 2016 02:55 (four years ago) link

I've been watching it... really enjoyed the most recent episode, promises to be a good finale

Feels more like Chinatown In Space than anything

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:21 (four years ago) link

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:23 (four years ago) link

in space, no one can hear you

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 31 January 2016 16:34 (four years ago) link

Mr Veg & I joked the other night about "the mystery of why people mumble in space, and who is giving everyone bad haircuts"

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, January 31, 2016 11:23 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thomas Jane went to the space barber and said "give me the Gary Oldman in Fifth Element"

77 lines about 77 albums i haven't heard (some dude), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:19 (four years ago) link

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:39 (four years ago) link

Make me look like I used to own a skate shop

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2016 17:40 (four years ago) link

lolol

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:03 (four years ago) link

i admit that I got a bit bored with all the worldbuilding, and that fake southern?/texan? dude who talks to spaceship computers like they're truckstop waitresses was almost a bridge too far... but I appreciate having a halfway decent scifi show on SyFy again so I am not complaining

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 February 2016 00:25 (four years ago) link

the books are good n' popcorny. kind of a shame that the TV series starts w/ the first novel, which is definitely the worst of the whole shebang.

remy bean, Monday, 1 February 2016 02:31 (four years ago) link

So the second-to-last episode of Season 1 spends a LOT of time inside a derelict and it is great creepy television. I loved how they mixed the soundtrack low so you're really just listening to magnetic boots on metal gangplanks almost the entire time, which you then realize is also the only thing any of the characters can hear.

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:36 (four years ago) link

I was gonna watch this but Hulu won't let me watch on TV. Booooo

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 8 February 2016 19:51 (four years ago) link

i watched it at syfy's website

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:00 (four years ago) link

oh wait missed the "on TV" part n/m

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 20:01 (four years ago) link

amos and the UN lady are both super compelling actors, look forward to more of this show

adam, Monday, 8 February 2016 20:13 (four years ago) link

One small nitpick - the action sequence towards the end (of the second to last episode) was a little choppy. I rewound it a few times and still had to just make some assumptions about how a couple things happened / who did what. Even then - how did that grenade not go off?

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Monday, 8 February 2016 22:16 (four years ago) link

3. Hard sci-fi space combat that resembles submarine warfare but with lots of slug weapons! Ship "gravity" entirely dependent on constant acceleration! People surviving limited exposure to vacuum! People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!

also a pleasingly hard sci fi plausible-ish near future involving asteroid mining and no (at least so far) fanciful alien species or completely out there tech. like it seems like space travel actually involves orbital mechanics in this

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 8 February 2016 23:31 (four years ago) link

finale 2-parter was great

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 04:55 (four years ago) link

xp yeah one of the things i like most about this show is that it really gives a sense of how fragile humanity in space is

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:09 (four years ago) link

Just binged. Its been such a desert for good space sci-fi that I didn't look too closely for seams. The gumshoe with the dodgy haircut was the comic relief, some good character actors in the bit roles, the sets are appropriately gritty and/or antiseptic, the effects crew clearly communicate the lonely peril of deep space, and the show runners are clearly love their hard sci-fi. And I want the actress playing Avasarala to purr in my ear.

Glad to have some episodic sci-fi to look forward to, now that Continuum has wrapped its loose ends.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 01:42 (four years ago) link

Winchell Chung, creator of the terrific hard sci-fi resource Atomic Rockets, gives The Expanse his Seal of Approval. I agree with every word.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Friday, 19 February 2016 04:51 (four years ago) link

can't believe we have to wait 9 months to find out what the hell is going on

Sith Dog (El Tomboto), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:40 (four years ago) link

if only there was like a whole bunch of books based on the tv show but like that actually ran ahead of the tv show that we could read

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Sunday, 21 February 2016 06:14 (four years ago) link

wait did continuum turn out to be good? the pilot was kinda rough and i never saw more

adam, Sunday, 21 February 2016 14:23 (four years ago) link

It was better than any time-travelling cop series had a right to be, and while the budgets shranked, the writing became more interesting. I'll be frank, though: My initial attraction was Rachel Nichols in a cat suit.

Assault Mime (Sanpaku), Sunday, 21 February 2016 15:30 (four years ago) link

guys i watched the first episode and.... really?

"UN BLACK OPS SITE"

space sex

COOL FEDORA GUY

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:52 (four years ago) link

it was like every crap 90s 'graphic novel' cliche throwd into one

only thing i liked apart from the awesome opening exposition title cards was the tense horror movie stuff p much

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:55 (four years ago) link

ok i've actually read the thread now and

People with sort-of-visible deformation* and musculoskeletal issues due to growing up in low-G!
- that was cool

made-up accent that no one has - it's supposed to be a kind of 'third world' Belter accent, right? to hammer home the allegory of the exploited other-class?

'flip n burn' was pretty good

GAH I DON'T KNOW

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:58 (four years ago) link

I've read (and really) enjoyed all the pulpy popcorn books & novellas and thought the first episode was pretty ropey. However, it gets much better and by the end is easily one of the best sci-fi shows in years and probably the best thing SyFy have done since BG.

groovypanda, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:24 (four years ago) link

space sex only happens in the first episode because there's an unwritten rule now that all tv pilots need sexual content regardless of the tone of the show

ciderpress, Monday, 22 February 2016 21:37 (four years ago) link

By ep 4 it starts getting really good afaict

It has been distracting seeing my doppelganger the medic

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:22 (four years ago) link

I couldn't get past the first ep of this, might give it another shot.

calzino, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:32 (four years ago) link

the other recent new SyFy show The Magicians (which is imo better than The Expanse) ALSO had gravity-defying midair sex in the pilot

some dude, Saturday, 27 February 2016 23:40 (four years ago) link

I like both shows a lot, nice to see SyFy step it up

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 February 2016 00:41 (four years ago) link

I've read all the Magicians books too and whilst I'm enjoying the show, I think The Expanse is much better.

Do they go out at different times in the States? It's noticeable that whilst Avasarala is very foul mouthed in the books, on the show she's not whereas The Magicians seems to have no problems dropping in the f-word several times each episode.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:20 (four years ago) link

There's been a recent trend towards series that air on non-sweary networks to throw in curses they can't actually air and just blank them out. (This is especially glaring on American Crime, where - I assume as a deliberate aesthetic choice - every "fuck" is announced with a few frames of completely blacked-out screen.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 15:52 (four years ago) link

I assume it's because they know/hope the unedited versions will be available on DVD

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 17:07 (four years ago) link

the Amos standoff / Clarissa attack sequence is good as hell!!

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:10 (one week ago) link

killer closing line (straight from the books I'd guess), great delivery from Chatham

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:28 (one week ago) link

some more thoughts up to 5.06

The Marco/Naomi scene where they're openly talking in medieval terms (not to mention the mention of "rallying to his banner") had me chuckling in its sheer GOTness. also, I think Marco is a fantastic villain. the guy plays him with just the right mix of petulance, arrogance, and conviction.

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 14:58 (one week ago) link

it occurs to me that Marco’s a lot like a dog chasing a car

mh, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:46 (one week ago) link

re Amos & Clarissa -- I think some of the bond between them is the darkness/anger/sociopathy aspect of their personalities that aren't just completely chaotic or mercenary. Like, there's a kindred spirit aspect there, as well as the fascination that they come from opposite social strata.

Also, the polyamorous sex-positive belter pod is in the books. This wasn't an invention of the show to make things sexy on a show that doesn't have as much sex as comparable programs (e.g. Game of Thrones lol)

sarahell, Thursday, 7 January 2021 01:50 (one week ago) link

I hadn't even really paid enough attention to those characters to notice they had a polycule going tbh

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 January 2021 03:37 (one week ago) link

everyone on Drummer’s ship right now (at least before they met up with Marco)? polycule

mh, Thursday, 7 January 2021 17:19 (one week ago) link

the "Clarissa goes ham on the weirdo" sequence was, I daresay, slightly Lynchian!

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 January 2021 18:57 (one week ago) link

Showxiating

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 7 January 2021 21:50 (one week ago) link

think for amos who we've seen clings to codes he's gained from others or maybe more tries to live by the codes of others he sees as better

pretty much called the end of yesterday's episode!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 8 January 2021 00:18 (one week ago) link

this was intense. did not expect the Last Of Us vibes!

so happy for bobbie and and alex. they deserve it.

absolutely cannot wait for the next episode. too far away!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 January 2021 00:44 (one week ago) link

Drummer's Faction: Requirements

Loyalty
Love
Dedication
and being really, really, really ridiculously good looking #TheExpanse506

— Aspect of Dan (@Garcian_Smith) January 8, 2021

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 January 2021 00:54 (one week ago) link

Dawes is, AFAWK, still alive, right? I wonder if we'll get one last Jared Harris appearance.

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 8 January 2021 01:56 (one week ago) link

holy fuck these last two eps were good

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 8 January 2021 06:43 (one week ago) link

Marco looks like such a high school drama teacher.

DJI, Friday, 8 January 2021 17:44 (one week ago) link

and the silly little han solo stripe down the side of his space trousers!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 January 2021 17:45 (one week ago) link

E06 best of this season so far - six separate story threads weaving around and incredibly exciting and well edited rather than overstuffing. Major LOLs at Bobbie's HUD display showing the Belter boarding party as "Low Threat"

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 January 2021 08:06 (one week ago) link

I think this is the first time there's been a ton of different plots and none of them are boring

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 January 2021 14:29 (one week ago) link

yeah nice to see Bobbie in her armor again

everything abt that EP totally ruled, the smug Belter prisoner was done really well because the foreshadowing was just vague enough

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:00 (one week ago) link

seems improbable

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 January 2021 05:01 (three days ago) link

She injected herself with pure liquid plot armour.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 January 2021 05:54 (three days ago) link

I'm just wondering if injecting yourself in zero g with zero surface pressure would be a good idea. You wouldn't find blood not being contained by the skin or something would you. Like, never seen it done but would be wondering how wise a move it would be.

Stevolende, Thursday, 14 January 2021 10:12 (three days ago) link

idk it was a bit silly but many many silly things happen on this show

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 January 2021 10:19 (three days ago) link

a sci-fi tv series without preposterousness is like trying to imagine germany without hitler sausages!

calzino, Thursday, 14 January 2021 10:27 (three days ago) link

I think they get the preposterousness/gritty realness balance quite correct in this show

calzino, Thursday, 14 January 2021 10:42 (three days ago) link

Made for a good cliffhanger so I’ll take the hokum.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Thursday, 14 January 2021 11:00 (three days ago) link

if you're not a regular on the Roci are you even real

more on 5.07:

As hokey as the space jump itself was, I was glad it meant the end of Naomi on Marco's ship - I already felt like that story was threatening to run in circles. This was maybe the only episode of the season where it felt like a lot of the plots were just kind of proceeding apace rather than reaching some kind of important new juncture. That said, ice fucking cold ending for Brent Sexton's character. Also, I thought the little glimpses of younger Naomi and baby Filip were tastefully handled.

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 January 2021 12:30 (three days ago) link

Was going to say--Naomi's dive was unlikely but not preposterous, especially with whatever stimulanty thing was in the needle (can't remember what it was in the books). The main thing that bothered me was her touching the outside of the ship with bare skin because that metal would be close to -273 degrees C.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:48 (two days ago) link

I don't even care for the fictional credulity ... that it was a powerfully dramatic (daft) moment that left me eagerly waiting for the next instalment is good enough for me.

calzino, Friday, 15 January 2021 00:57 (two days ago) link

yup

it was oxygenated blood, same thing they gave to....journalist lady

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 15 January 2021 03:13 (two days ago) link

the first 30 minutes of this dragged, could have used some editing imo (i.e. Simon otm)

then it got good again

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:53 (two days ago) link

The whole family-reunion plotline mostly sucked IMO. I hate Marco, but not in the way the writers want me to.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:13 (two days ago) link

haha so true

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:15 (two days ago) link

i didn't like it, but it could have been much worse imo

mookieproof, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:17 (two days ago) link

The whole family-reunion plotline mostly sucked IMO. I hate Marco, but not in the way the writers want me to.

I like him in actual command mode (like when he gave his big address to the system), but we definitely got too many scenes of him being petty and small - it kinda overshadowed the menace.

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:22 (two days ago) link

Just imagining him stamping his feet and yelling "regional theater IS real theater!"

DJI, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:39 (two days ago) link

looool

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:43 (two days ago) link

I just had the idea that if she punctured skin while not wearing a suit in space she might just wind up with things streaming out of the hole. But maybe that's not the way an injection works at that point in history.
JUst surely if there's no external pressure then surely everything will be rushing to get out.

BUt I guess it looked good and leaves a cliffhanger.

Stevolende, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:43 (two days ago) link

omg DJI lmaoooo

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:53 (two days ago) link

yeah it was getting stale, they’d had those Very Intense conversations about 5 times each

Filip’s heel turn took me by surprise - it seemed as though he’d genuinely reconnected w Naomi

the battle between the Roci and the drone was a+++++

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:57 (two days ago) link

So one thing I’m confused about - when that ship was destroyed, was the sample on the ship; or had somebody gotten it off at that point?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:43 (yesterday) link

it is unclear, imo (I have not read the books)

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:50 (yesterday) link

i've seen it claimed that the ship fired off a bluish missile before blowing up

in any case, there's no way in hell the sample got destroyed that easily

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:20 (yesterday) link

Ya that would have been mighty anticlimactic

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:21 (yesterday) link

we don't know for sure but i don't think holden does either.. hence "fuck!"

millions of proto-bits flying with full inertia 360 degrees from the explosion would be pretty hard to track down

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:25 (yesterday) link

when someone fires fast movers missiles at you and you try to shoot them, how big do you think your bullets have to be?

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:28 (yesterday) link

just big enough to rip a hole in them i reckon.. did i mention already how awesome the fight was? the fight was awesome.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:36 (yesterday) link

“want one of my old medals?”

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:03 (yesterday) link

I made a mini version of #TheExpanse Rocinante galley wall light plant lamp thing pic.twitter.com/j7u2bY4jS0

— Darren Schwindaman (@djschwin) January 17, 2021

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:58 (twenty-two minutes ago) link


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