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So I watched the pilot for this show tonight on (ugh!) UPN.

I was pretty impressed. I was expecting something totally different and much less dark.

Anyone else watch it?

I fear it'll be cancelled within a month or so, as that seems to be the fate of most good television these days.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 23 September 2004 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link

i had intented to watch this, as a guilty pleasure- somethign about the previews had a comic bookish feel to it

kephm (kephm), Thursday, 23 September 2004 11:55 (fifteen years ago) link

i saw abt 1 minute of this. she walked into a firehouse, she said hi to a fireman that she knew, and he replied "hey, barely legal, what's up etc..." i turned it.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 23 September 2004 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

It's very noirish. And I love that they have this incredibly damaged girl as a main character. Her backstory is not cutesy. It's just incredibly sad and unvarnished and rings true.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 23 September 2004 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Seriously, this show is AWESOME. It's 10x the show that Lost is, and I want people to start watching it immediately because if it gets cancelled I'm seriously going to sink into depression. It's wonderfully acted, plotted, and written. Start watching. Now. I command you. You will not regret it. It's so funny and dark and adult and has not yet pulled a single one of its punches, and the seasonal arc has been so seamlessly intertwined into all of the episodes.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm serious. Start watching. Especially if you have a Nielsen box. Or if you like good television. Or if you like me and trust my taste.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

when is it on?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Tuesdays at 9/8c on UPN. So right after The Gilmore Girls, but on a different station.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

It is very, very good.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link


Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 28 October 2004 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link


JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Bah what?

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 29 October 2004 05:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Melly Dubbs! HUGGLEZ where u been girl?

LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 29 October 2004 06:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey! I've been around... Or maybe I haven't been. It's all so confusing these days.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 29 October 2004 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey, whenever you want, email about some co-worker just did a Gondry interview and I was thinking about you the whole time.

LeCoq (LeCoq), Friday, 29 October 2004 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Nice! I'm still waiting on that interview that will never, ever be finished.

I should move on.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 29 October 2004 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link


Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 10:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Watching the election coverage instead will just depress you.

Actually, I wonder if UPN affiliates might back out of showing the new episode tonight and if they'll just show the previous week's.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

bah! no good!

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd rather watch erection coverage

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

jaXon does your wife like it?

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link


JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link


JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

watching your wife with TIVO has made MY WIFE want TIVO!

does she like the show?

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link

guh, she likes the show a lot.


JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Watch this tonight! 9/8c on UPN.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

i will because you told me to

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not bad.

Leon the Fratboy (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it ok to jump into the middle of the series, as opposed to watching them in proper sequence?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

You'll probably be a bit confused, but I can get you caught up.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

It's gonna be a midseason replacement on CTV, so I'll try to catch it if reminded of it. TV has not been my friend since the demise of the Buffyverse (that is, until 24 starts up again in January).

alex in montreal, Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i forgot to watch it.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link


Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I downloaded this. i watched it. good stuff.

Chip shop (Danny), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Nice timing, my download of the first episode just finished.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i have 10 episodes now, i got my first about three days ago. addictive.

Jeffrey (Danny), Thursday, 23 December 2004 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

No great shakes. Does it get better than the pilot?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 23 December 2004 07:31 (fifteen years ago) link

It does get better than the pilot but some episodes are still patchy. overall story arc seems like it will be good and the flashbacks are interwoven well. The detective noir angle is done well and when the colours aren't overdone it's like cake fr yr eyes.

"pulses with promise" is about right. Good character too, at least fr me.

Plus i was reading this thread, Why do I not get, care for, and in fact utterly disdain Buffy et al? while i was watching some episodes which implanted buffy in my brain. Now i think veronica mars is the first Post-Buffy show i have seen. there are probably already ones anyway, i miss a lot of tv. post-buffy is a pretty crap term.

err, Mel W to thread?

chip shop (Danny), Thursday, 23 December 2004 08:55 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I just saw this last Tuesday, it's great!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 15 January 2005 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i couldn't tell if I liked it or hated it. that girl is all hard edges and kind of difficult to take; like sarah michelle gellar w/out anything likable. the tone was kind of uneven and fakey at times and that bothered me. I'll probably watch it again though

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Which episode did you watch?

Some have been more uneven than others.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 16 January 2005 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link

the secret society/fake id one

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 16 January 2005 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I agree with tracer hand!

cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 January 2005 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Ooh, Alyson Hannigan is going to be playing Logan's sister!

Melissa W (Melissa W), Sunday, 16 January 2005 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmm, CTV still has it listed as Winter 2005 but no specifics on when/whether it's gonna be playing soon. All these references to Buffy are surely going to lead me to some sort of letdown.

alex in montreal, Monday, 17 January 2005 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree with saying this is good

qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link


cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link


qbert (Danny), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

This thread needs to be updated constantly so I can check out the CTV website to see when they'll decide to put it on.

alex in montreal, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I might start watching it again once Amazing Race is done.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

anyway i enjoyed this very much despite some loose moments as i mentioned earlier. feel like they could get into a real groove with another season pls

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 02:46 (one year ago) link

logan was doomed, rip :((((((((

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 02:47 (one year ago) link

^^^ sorry ENORMOUS SPOILER i forgot everyone was being coy

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:01 (one year ago) link

can’t believe Piz gunned him down, really a left turn in the plot

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:22 (one year ago) link


Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:33 (one year ago) link

Maddie was very good, I though. Well inserted.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 08:59 (one year ago) link

Matty is also on iZombie, playing a very similar character.

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:14 (one year ago) link

Finally watched this and:

i just finished the new season



great season but gahh heartbroken. Goddamn this show.

Roz, Monday, 12 August 2019 14:01 (one year ago) link

I have two episodes left to go but Jason Dohring is really bringing that izombie catatonic acting to VM.

Yerac, Monday, 12 August 2019 15:42 (one year ago) link

the overall banter though is still so delightful though.

Yerac, Monday, 12 August 2019 15:43 (one year ago) link

Need to watch! Thank you for reminder!

ian, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:05 (one year ago) link

I needed more of Veronica's new dog. Also, had the same strong dislike of new theme song at first but now it's whatevs.

Yerac, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:15 (one year ago) link

I need them to greenlight another season

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:17 (one year ago) link

yeah not a fan of the new theme song, sorry Chrissie.

not enough Wallace or Weevil this season imo, Mac was missed, though I enjoyed the extended time with Dep... Agent Leo, my second favourite Veronica boyfriend.

and lol @ all the former villains (Liam Fitzpatrick, Tim the TA, Mercer the rapist) showing up for exactly one scene each.

Roz, Monday, 12 August 2019 16:39 (one year ago) link

Love Logan but he did seem a trifle lobotomized this season, I can see what Veronica was complaining about.

Lily Dale, Monday, 12 August 2019 17:21 (one year ago) link

Maybe it's the $cient0l0gy?

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 12 August 2019 17:28 (one year ago) link

what? oh, no!

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:08 (one year ago) link


Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 07:20 (one year ago) link

using the phrase "by NY Times best-selling author L. Ron Hubbard" on a flier for a seminar held at the actual CoS Celebrity Center is some amazing "we're reeling in people who know as little as possible" work

going to drop it now, but this is good sc1entology thread material and I don't want to sully the VM thread

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 15:58 (one year ago) link

ha, I almost brought up the scientology thing but I didn't want to make a mean joke because I haven't finished the final two episodes yet and saw the spoilers above.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:23 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

yeah Hulu is only available through Crave in Canada so you have to pay for two services to get at it, which fuck that tbh

Wait, I only had to pay for Crave to watch it. I binged it over the last two days since I had a cold. Ending = holy shit. It was addictive and good drama/suspense. I do appreciate how they've adapted the show to everyone being 15 years older. Not sure if it was good mystery.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:06 (eleven months ago) link

yeah the mystery was kinda “Agatha Christie starter kit”

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:18 (eleven months ago) link

tbh the mysteries on the show have never been all that great/distinctive. they're more just skeletons to hang the characters, relationships, perilous ethical/moral landscape and mood on.

Simon H., Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:23 (eleven months ago) link

s1 had the best one and it was pretty much just Twin Peaks redux

Simon H., Thursday, 29 August 2019 04:24 (eleven months ago) link

Hm, well, Twin Peaks reimagined as a naturalistic traditional mystery story is p much what I want from TV. Even with that one, though, iirc, the answer was m/l just revealed via the deux ex machina of the videotapes in the last episode? I feel like there were some solid mysteries of the week, which they've done away with altogether, although I'd have to rewatch to recall what they were.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 19:59 (eleven months ago) link

Rewatching s1 does seem like a good use of the month of Crave I've signed up for.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:04 (eleven months ago) link

Speaking of Peaks-a-like shows: I found the first season of Northern Exposure for 25p a couple of days ago. That was compared to TP a lot, wasn’t it? I don’t think I ever watched it.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:09 (eleven months ago) link

compared?? related 'quirky' northwest settings maybe but

j., Friday, 30 August 2019 20:24 (eleven months ago) link

lol yeah that is not a good comparison at all

VM is more bad-ass PI (meaning a cop without a police structure) than sherlock-style clue detection for sure

rob, Friday, 30 August 2019 20:29 (eleven months ago) link

Veronica's deep, deep damage really coming to the forefront in this season made for fascinating viewing, I thought, great writing and great exploration of the character from Kristen Bell.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:32 (eleven months ago) link

Yep, and it helped them to sidestep the most obvious/familiar potential sources of drama btwn Veronica and Logan (ie infidelity, Logan being a fuckup, etc)

Simon H., Friday, 30 August 2019 20:34 (eleven months ago) link

I don't see how they can do veronica dirtier than they did this season but if they make another I'm sure they'll figure out a way b/c the genre probably demands that she won't get a break

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:36 (eleven months ago) link

I'm not the only one! I'm just dimly remembering marketing from nearly 30 years ago...

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 30 August 2019 20:40 (eleven months ago) link

yeah maybe her and Dick will hit the road and compare "my life is a series of horrors" stories

rob, Friday, 30 August 2019 20:46 (eleven months ago) link

xp well, marketers are shameless

j., Friday, 30 August 2019 20:47 (eleven months ago) link

it's like Sherlock Holmes, there's no need to show Veronica progressing (the death knell of many awesome genre shows)... she can just be a deeply damaged badass over and over again

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 30 August 2019 22:19 (eleven months ago) link

I super hope they don't bring back Piz or dunkindonut next season.

Yerac, Friday, 30 August 2019 23:18 (eleven months ago) link

Northern Exposure intermittently had a supernatural weirdness that could be Twin Peaks-y I guess.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 30 August 2019 23:58 (eleven months ago) link

It started in 1990 - twin peaks was perhaps an obvious touchstone (though I guess I’ll have to watch it to find out if it was the writers or the critics doing the touching)

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 31 August 2019 08:19 (eleven months ago) link

Ha, reviewing the first two eps, I had forgotten how much the show emphasized beatdowns as a model for adolescent conflict resolution.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 31 August 2019 20:22 (eleven months ago) link

halfway through this new season and I'm loving it - it's aged exactly as it should, perfectly in sync with its audience.
One small thing though, has Weevil always looked like a pre-teen dressed up as 90's gangsta for Halloween? Or did they make it worse by trying to age the character?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:14 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

I'm avoiding the recent part of this thread because I haven't been able to see this yet- but could some kind person have a look at this DVD on Amazon and see if it looks like s4 from the description etc? It's labelled season 1 but released 22 October 2019. Thanks!

kinder, Friday, 25 October 2019 11:55 (nine months ago) link

Description is def the new season

dan selzer, Friday, 25 October 2019 11:58 (nine months ago) link

thank you!
Weird that it's "The Complete First Season"

kinder, Friday, 25 October 2019 12:06 (nine months ago) link

don't buy things from amazon

conrad, Friday, 25 October 2019 15:29 (nine months ago) link

The cover looks like Veronica Mars combined with Leatherface

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 25 October 2019 15:49 (nine months ago) link

well this was a ball!
I really enjoyed watching it but also had this weird feeling of unease a lot of the time. Maybe it was Logan's 'keeping in the anger' or maybe it was all the adult dialogue which sat oddly at first (I can't remember if the movie was like that), or maybe I couldn't quite get a feel for some of the characters? idk.

kinder, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:23 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:30 (six months ago) link

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