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Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 21 April 2018 04:22 (four years ago) link

Anyone else watch season 4 yet?

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 21 April 2018 04:22 (four years ago) link

Finished it last night. It was very good, but I feel like it ends in a way that would allow me to walk away if season 5 (which has been promised) is uninspiring.

I've only read like 3 of the books, so there's always that.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 21 April 2018 11:33 (four years ago) link

just finished ep 4....

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 22 April 2018 00:10 (four years ago) link

I lost interest mid first season due to serial killer fatigue. Is it worth picking up with s2?

Simon H., Sunday, 22 April 2018 00:21 (four years ago) link

I certainly think so. I am also mid-S4 and have no regrets.

fajita seas, Sunday, 22 April 2018 15:42 (four years ago) link

just wrapped season 4. really solid season. simon I think season 1 is the weakest but i still liked it.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 20:28 (four years ago) link

I love the books, but I've never managed to get into the show, or Welliver's portrayal. It's well-made but I've never been gripped enough to keep watching.

That said, this season is part-based on Angels Flight, my favourite of the Bosch books, so I'll give it yet another try. Is it ok for someone who's only seen the opening episodes of every season?

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 18:06 (four years ago) link

you may miss some context on some character arcs / story lines but i think you could easily fill in the blanks as you go.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:21 (four years ago) link

Will this help to fill the Justified-shaped hole in my life? I’ve read the first two Bosch books and liked them but didn’t feel the need for any more.

Is the show funnier than the books, I guess is what I’m asking.

sciatica, Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:24 (four years ago) link

cant answer that v accurately as i havent read the books. but i did watch justified and i dont think this quiiiite scratches that same itch. maybe a little but bosch is not nearly as magnetic/dynamic as raylan was.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:38 (four years ago) link

Season 4 feels a little padded (better to disperse the padding evenly throughout than to shoot entire episodes of pure padding I guess) but agreed, it's solid and catchy. I keep finding myself expecting Marlo to order somebody executed.

Nothing close to the humor and rich, good-natured ain't-humanity-somethingism of Justified, though. This is a show about people in bad moods wearing business attire and talking to each other on cell phones.

mick signals, Friday, 27 April 2018 01:52 (four years ago) link

I don't know why but I always pictured Bosch as Jon Polito


Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:25 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Will this help to fill the Justified-shaped hole in my life?


we just finished the last season. Jamie Hector is fantastic in this. So are the guys playing Crate & Barrel. Bosch and Billets and Chief Irving are good but not as much fun as the aforementioned.

There are a several moments in Season 4 that are really all-time - so much rewinding just to see it again

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 23:13 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

Season 5 premiere tonight!

In the meantime:
All the LA Bars and Restaurants Featured in Modern Noir Cop Show Bosch

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 19 April 2019 19:23 (three years ago) link

yes! gonna crank this season out over the next week for sure.

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Friday, 19 April 2019 20:04 (three years ago) link

Bosch really gets in some trouble this time around

mh, Friday, 26 April 2019 22:43 (three years ago) link

im about halfway through s5

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Friday, 26 April 2019 23:10 (three years ago) link

had to go back in this thread and check to make sure I didn't already post about how every season combines plots and characters from multiple books, which are also good.

sarahell, Friday, 26 April 2019 23:12 (three years ago) link

this show rules, only have watched first episode of season 5 but first 4 all solid, love the location shooting too (rip Smog Cutter)

buzza, Friday, 26 April 2019 23:25 (three years ago) link

Just finished the new season. Really good.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 April 2019 23:26 (three years ago) link

was drinking some groundwork when i watched ep1. also an ND law mug. so many ties.

camp pendleton subway yelp review (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 26 April 2019 23:28 (three years ago) link

Still not sure what exactly was the purpose of the plane expeditions

mick signals, Saturday, 27 April 2019 02:04 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the whole scheme seemed like a lot of work for relatively little reward.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 27 April 2019 02:09 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:26 (two years ago) link


7th season will be the last

na (NA), Thursday, 13 February 2020 20:59 (two years ago) link


Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 21:01 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Those words you have wanted to hear: Bosch season 6 trailer

absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Monday, 23 March 2020 20:34 (two years ago) link


Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 05:20 (two years ago) link

looks corny as hell, gonna be great

na (NA), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 14:08 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

season 6 is out. 2 eps in. bosch looks a little more ripped than past seasons is my only takeaway so far.

Spottie, Friday, 17 April 2020 23:12 (two years ago) link

This is the Overlook, right? Connelly’s wannabe 24 novella that was serialised in the nyt. (Its good, though.)

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 17 April 2020 23:52 (two years ago) link

Bosch is back, baby!

I feel like all the seasons have been contemporaneous in recent memory for me, but the fact the daughter character is somehow an adult now is jarring

But I mean, the pilot came out in early 2014 and it’s now 2020, so...

mh, Saturday, 18 April 2020 01:13 (two years ago) link

i like that there's 2nd-tier cast character-typology overlap with brooklyn 99

mark s, Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:24 (two years ago) link

Eight episodes in. I like the b-plots with the Haitian underworld and Maddie/Honey Chandler, but I'm really missing the Nickel Diner downtown.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 20 April 2020 20:33 (two years ago) link

is the Los Angles Ace Hotel the new Mondrian or Standard or w/e when it comes to "semi-famous and some shit's going down here" now?

mh, Monday, 20 April 2020 20:35 (two years ago) link

bosch is such a judgmental dick

mark s, Tuesday, 21 April 2020 18:37 (two years ago) link

bosch is good, i liked it when he quietly radiated conviction so hard his daughter became a fascist too

adam, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 13:16 (two years ago) link

i enjoyed the last season even if half of it was just wrapping up loose threads from the previous season. i feel like in the middle seasons they started to move slightly away from the COPS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT AND ANYONE WHO GETS IN THEIR WAY IS EVIL philosophy, but they really circled back to it in the end. i loved maddie and honey chandler continuously having to explain the basics of the u.s. justice system to bosch. why would criminals need defense attorneys? need i remind you that COPS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT AND ANYONE WHO GETS IN THEIR WAY IS EVIL. also wasn't crazy about them making j. edgar a proponent of vigilante justice at the very last minute.

na (NA), Monday, 11 May 2020 14:20 (two years ago) link

also wasn't crazy about them making j. edgar a proponent of vigilante justice at the very last minute.

lol I got kinda teary-eyed at that tbh -- like, wishing for him to say, "you want things to be one way, but it's the other way"

sarahell, Monday, 11 May 2020 18:46 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

someone in the S7 trailer mentions stringer bell. very disrespectful to pull that shit with jamie hector imo!!

goole, Monday, 21 June 2021 23:36 (eleven months ago) link

last season comes out friday :(

pure rim rest (Spottie), Monday, 21 June 2021 23:59 (eleven months ago) link

Just started S07E04 and I think I'm binging the whole season today.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 27 June 2021 22:05 (ten months ago) link

3 episodes in and liking it. The person I thought was gonna be the Big Bad is...not. Curious how the B-plot is gonna tie in, too.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 27 June 2021 23:03 (ten months ago) link

Finished last night. I’ll wait til some more are done.

pure rim rest (Spottie), Sunday, 27 June 2021 23:08 (ten months ago) link

A little bit of background on the real-life event that Connelly used for The Burning Room (S7 is based on it)

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 02:09 (ten months ago) link


na (NA), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 15:10 (ten months ago) link

Bosch is such a boomer cool dad caricature, particularly this season - but I guess that makes him realistic. He reminds me of so many people around me.
Sad to see this ensemble go and it will definitely leave a hole in my TV landscape - this was such a welcome break from blue-tinged scandi-noir copycats.
I guess they could launch a reboot with a new cast for Bosch's second act - god knows there is enough material around.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 08:41 (ten months ago) link

The spinoff show is already being shot, will be on Amazon’s IMDb TV service (content shows up in the Amazon Prime apps),


mh, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 14:34 (ten months ago) link

i found the last season mildly disappointing, too focused on revisiting old characters instead of presenting a compelling crime story.

na (NA), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 14:45 (ten months ago) link

i kinda hate maddie tho she is a p plausible daughter of her dad i guess

mark s, Monday, 25 April 2022 19:55 (three weeks ago) link

I like that her introduction was “I haven’t seen my daughter since she was three, she’s good I guess IDK” and then it turns out she’s somehow exactly like her father. Strong genes.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 25 April 2022 21:08 (three weeks ago) link

you can tell by the size of his head

mark s, Monday, 25 April 2022 21:29 (three weeks ago) link

I'm really liking the Mickey Haller series (The Lincoln Lawyer, The Brass Verdict, The Reversal and The Fifth Witness so far). There is some overlap between Bosch and Haller in the novels, because *spoiler* we learn they are half brothers. Is he much of a figure in the streaming series?

Dan S, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 00:04 (three weeks ago) link

No but the first season of The Lincoln Lawyer is dropping on Netflix in a couple of weeks

groovypanda, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 06:43 (three weeks ago) link

lol i just watched the final ep w/o realising it even was the final ep, thinking "oh this incel strand wound up strangely early"

(i was pretty sleepy, maybe i slept thru the highlights)

mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:21 (three weeks ago) link

(this was last night, i'm watching it again to see what i missed)

mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:21 (three weeks ago) link

(ok turns out i hadn't watched the last ep at all, netflix must have played it to the end while the screen was off)

mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:02 (three weeks ago) link

lol it's a banger

mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:03 (three weeks ago) link

anyway in conclusion, bosch is a DICK

mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:55 (three weeks ago) link

Watching Reacher before starting Bosch was a mistake, I keep hoping for him to go sicko mode and he hasn’t really done that since throwing the bad captain through a window.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:05 (three weeks ago) link

it mildly grinds me that his dog is called coltrane but he never listens to coltrane -- it's always plangently melancholy late-nite old-times-were-best spot-the-tune jazz

which is fine, i like it too, but just sometimes he shd throw on interstellar space

mark s, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 08:57 (three weeks ago) link

i like maddie, not a great actress if i'm being "objective" but she captures a lot of mannerisms i see in my daughter so she is capturing "something." looking forward to more honey chandler in the new series!

buzza, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 09:03 (three weeks ago) link

legacy now

hope it's a bit nippier on its pins than PICARD

mark s, Friday, 6 May 2022 18:54 (two weeks ago) link

maddie getting a v hard time from all the non-baby cops is funny and she deserves it bcz she annoys me

mark s, Friday, 6 May 2022 19:34 (two weeks ago) link

ambushed by unexpected jackie chiles lol


mark s, Friday, 6 May 2022 19:50 (two weeks ago) link

me chuckling at this spry* and toned character meant to be 90+

checking the actor: william devane, a pretty spry and toned 82 tbf (son of FDR's chauffeur, played robert kennedy in macbird in 1966)

*i mean yes he's in a wheelchair

mark s, Friday, 6 May 2022 20:25 (two weeks ago) link

(i am the only ilxor who's ever mentioned or maybe even thought abt macbird, a very forgotten item i imagine, which is nevertheless oddly important to me)

(nothing to do with BOSCH tho)

mark s, Friday, 6 May 2022 20:28 (two weeks ago) link

ok, started the first episode of the new series

I’m thinking “hmm, ok I can deal with this” so far, but then the credits hit and wtf is this theme song

mh, Sunday, 8 May 2022 02:46 (two weeks ago) link

yeah the title sequence visually is a decent successor to the orig but the music is a hard miss
4 episodes in this just feels like a more or less natural S8 vs a reboot S1
not bad, still waiting to see where it goes
as a resident just love the location shooting, always on point, Maddie running around the Hollywood Reservoir just makes me think of my own jaunts around there

buzza, Sunday, 8 May 2022 09:32 (two weeks ago) link

his fedora-guy sidekick isnt doing it for me, where is cheech marin when u need him

mark s, Sunday, 8 May 2022 10:16 (two weeks ago) link

idk i kinda like his vibe but he is a bit "low energy"

buzza, Sunday, 8 May 2022 10:39 (two weeks ago) link

i'm only two in maybe i'll warm to him, he seems a bit pre-formed

mark s, Sunday, 8 May 2022 10:43 (two weeks ago) link

he rings sort of true in a weird la way to me

buzza, Sunday, 8 May 2022 10:52 (two weeks ago) link

haha that could also be entirely true

mark s, Sunday, 8 May 2022 10:58 (two weeks ago) link

William Devane! One of the first 'character' actors who ever made an impression on me as the villain in Hitchcock's Family Plot, which I saw at the cinema when I was ten or so. Great to hear he's still working.

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 8 May 2022 11:37 (two weeks ago) link

he's looking great for 82!

mark s, Sunday, 8 May 2022 11:46 (two weeks ago) link

we get a little crate and barrel cameo in s4, as a treat

mh, Sunday, 8 May 2022 15:02 (two weeks ago) link

the credit sequences sucks as badly the as the song, the old one was so good :(

mark s, Sunday, 8 May 2022 15:31 (two weeks ago) link

lol at maddie actuallying her dad on latin pronunciation, yeah, neither of you are close

mark s, Sunday, 8 May 2022 16:34 (two weeks ago) link

Bosch starting to lecture Jerry on going too far… c’mon, man

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 8 May 2022 20:51 (two weeks ago) link

*rescreening* S7 now because i don't remember anything about the new season bad guy and his connection to the failed hit on Money Chandler. Streaming/binging habits are bad for short term memories. Also, William Devane post-Kennedy career to me is his turn on 24 as Sec of Defense/POTUS/Dementia patient, 24 is also the last series i went this deep into late seasons. hmmmmmm.....

buzza, Monday, 9 May 2022 07:57 (one week ago) link

he's pretty shadowy in s7!

mark s, Monday, 9 May 2022 08:07 (one week ago) link

they recast the role of Rogers for this season, that's part of the wtf (actually it's just me and my senility)

buzza, Monday, 9 May 2022 09:50 (one week ago) link

Watching the S7 recap at the start of "Legacy". There are characters called Franzen, Chandler and... Carl Rogers?

"Carl Rogers, you're under arrest", an actual line of dialogue


Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 May 2022 23:45 (one week ago) link

I'm reading Connelly's second Jack McEvoy novel The Scarecrow (2009) right now. The first was The Poet (1996), one of Connelly's most memorable books. He has said he doesn't love delving into McEvoy because "he is easily the most autobiographical character I have ever written about"

Dan S, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 00:01 (one week ago) link

McEvoy is an investigative journalist and also appears in the Bosch/McCaleb novel A Darkness More Than Night (2001) and along with Bosch in the Mickey Haller novel The Brass Verdict (2008). Connelly also wrote a third novel featuring him in Fair Warning (2020), which I haven't read yet

Dan S, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 00:36 (one week ago) link

lol finished rewatching s7 and i still don't really understand the underpinning of the new season plot but i'll just assume it's a The Big Sleep thing here it's best not to try to make the puzzle make sense and just enjoy the ride

buzza, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 09:24 (one week ago) link

it does feel big-sleepy! needs more orchids in a hothouse to make bosch sweat uneasily

mark s, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 09:29 (one week ago) link

i'd love more flirty scenes a la Dorothy Malone's bookstore clerk and the horny female cab driver but Bosch is way too leathery and stolid to pull that off. that's why i would love a Santiago spinoff with him and the punky bartender getting some real screentime.

buzza, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 09:36 (one week ago) link

has there ever been a good or interesting take on the russian gangster as the new mafia concept ?

(this version is bad and boring) (og law and order had some entertaining characters now and then i guess in the 00s, this doesn't have that either)

mark s, Friday, 13 May 2022 17:55 (one week ago) link

the procedural drama in the o/g series was hardly sparkling or boldly original but legacy REALLY misses it: hours of the newly minted PI and his high-end lawyer foe-chum tippytoeing round warehouses and whatnot to catch the crims at it is NO SUBSTITUTE AT ALL

also where is maddy this ep, i dont even love her sections but

mark s, Sunday, 15 May 2022 14:05 (one week ago) link

Watched the first episode and it definitely feels like a cheap knockoff of the original. Don't give a fuck about Maddie's police training; there's already a whole procedural about that on network tv — it's called The Rookie and it's dull as shit, too. Bosch without a badge is just an old crank, and honestly I don't think the show has the budget to actually film his house sliding down the hill by season's end so I suspect that's just a distraction. Willam Devane in his wheelchair looks kind of amazingly like John McCain.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 15 May 2022 14:12 (one week ago) link

lol baby bosch is in this flashback ep and he's a belligerent prick

(good casting tho tbh)

mark s, Friday, 20 May 2022 17:32 (two days ago) link

show frantic to have it both ways re bad-apple cops and not in a deft or an interesting way really

mark s, Friday, 20 May 2022 17:42 (two days ago) link

So if enjoyed Bosch non-legacy version but don't really care about the Bosch extended universe, should I put legacy in my viewing queue? most comments ITT are on the negative side...

that's not my post, Friday, 20 May 2022 19:48 (two days ago) link

not really feeling it adds anything tbh

i will watch the series out probably bcz who wants to be left hanging but

mark s, Friday, 20 May 2022 20:01 (two days ago) link

its bad and the theme song is bad

adam, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:02 (yesterday) link

ima still watch it tho

adam, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:02 (yesterday) link

TY. Think I’ll spend my limited TV time elsewhere and enjoy the memories from the original series.

that's not my post, Saturday, 21 May 2022 00:54 (yesterday) link

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