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Fix that for all the Yes fans on ILX.

NO!!!!!!, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

but how are we gonna search for THIS thread?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

DRAMA by Yes: Lost Classic or Justified Dud?

howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Keep it on New Answers 4-ever?

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Search for "Unsearchable"?

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Searching tip:
You CAN search for three-letter words in the TITLE of a thread.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Unsearchable and damn near unlistenable to boot.

rich henderson, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

fuck you motherfucker

howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

!!!, Eve, War, U2, etc

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

yes: classic or dud? search and destroy

I realized the other day that The Yes Album may actually be my single favourite album. Maybe. I think it was the first time I ever clicked that hard with "Yours Is No Disgrace".

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

And of course :-)

So, How Many Rick Wakeman Solo Albums Have You Actually Heard (All the Way Through) Anyway?

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Alright then.

YES: Classic or Dud?

NO!!!!!!!!, Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Also....

The Most UN-"Punk Rock" album ever..

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Long Distance Runaround sounds like Sting w/ The Grateful Dead.

NO!!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 00:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Where's the one where Dr C talked about hearing "Yours Is No Disgrace" for the first time in ages and being knocked out? It was prior to the "How do you listen to prog?" one iirc.

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

xpost Are there Dead songs with basslines like that?

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yes, Grateful Dead has some great bass lines. I think so.

Actually it sounds more like what Grateful Dead sound like on acid than what they sound like sober. The first few times I heard it, I thought it was the Grateful Dead. Once I finally got a really good listen, I tracked down the band and album and it is the reason I ever began liking Yes. I swear when I hear it for a moment the world turns tie-dye.

Nobody I knew ever spoke about them and for some reason I had them pegged as sounding like the Byrds or the Yardbirds or some 70s birds that were poor-fidelitily recorded hippy shit like Moby Grape. Moby Grape is pretty cool and all, but nothing I'd want to spend more money on. There's 5 Yes albums I would buy all over again.

NO!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 02:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Long Distance Runaround sounds like Sting w/ The Grateful Dead."

oh my god, the dead never could have played that song. they would have fallen over. even in the 60's. maybe if they slowed it down to a death march a la red house painters.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 16 December 2005 03:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

allman brothers coulda knocked it out if the park though. i'd pay good money to hear that.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 16 December 2005 03:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Scott, how familiar with the Grateful Dead are you, really? If I remember correctly, you're more of a Dead-hater/metal-enthusiast, correct? I don't believe GD would have had trouble playing that tune at all. The singing is where the problem would come in.

NO!!!!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 03:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I suppose "Long Distance Runaround" maybe has a little "China Cat Sunflower" thing going on, but I don't hear much similarity at all. the Dead at their proggiest never executed the kind of moves that "LDR" has. Not to say they *couldn't* have played it -- I think they could have too -- but I just don't hear any similarity.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 16 December 2005 04:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Exactly the song I was thinking of (a little Scarlet Begonias too?), but also some of the distort0-rock quality that can be found in select songs off Blues For Allah or Terapin Station.

NO!!!!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 04:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I can't get over that you hear no similarity, though. It sounds just like a Garcia guitar line in between the vocal breaks. I haven't heard anyone else sound like Jerry before that song. He has a very unusual style and tone!

NO!!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 04:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

well, yeah, I suppose I should not have said *no* similarity (after all, I*did note the connection between the snaking guitar lines in the two tunes..) I guess I just think of the two bands in such fundamentally different terms. But yeah. "Scarlet Begonias", sure, I can sort of get that.. Jon Anderson and Jerry both very gently beautiful singers..

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 16 December 2005 04:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Jon Anderson really sounds like Sting in that song!

NO!!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 05:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Jon Anderson really sounds like Sting in that song!

Other way around, chief. Being that Fragile was recorded in 1971, I'd say it's Sting who sounds like Jon Anderson.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 16 December 2005 05:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Why da fuck should ILM change just for some crusty old band?

If Yes wants to be searched, THEN THEY CAN CHANGE. NOT US.

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 05:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Like is like, chum. Jon is like Sting the same way I would tell someone mead is like beer. Would you get all bent out of shape and say, "NO, beer is like mead!"?

NO!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 05:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Jon Anderson and Jerry both very gently beautiful singers.

When I was refferring to Jerry's "tone" I was talking about was his guitar tone. I've never heard anyone else with a guitar tone like Jerry's until I heard Long Distance Runaround. That's what I was trying to say. It's real bright and almost sounds like steel drums or something. Can't explain it.

NO!!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 05:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Like is like, chum. Jon is like Sting the same way I would tell someone mead is like beer. Would you get all bent out of shape and say, "NO, beer is like mead!"?

Well, simply put, it's disrespectful to Jon Anderson. It's like saying Joe Strummer sounds like Billy Joe Armstrong or that Geddy Lee sounds like that hirsute clown in Coheed & Cambria. Give the elders their due, ya whippersnapper.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 16 December 2005 07:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

....and I'm pretty damn sure that Mead tastes nothing like beer.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 16 December 2005 07:09 (eleven years ago) Permalink

should i get more than big generator ?

retroboy, Friday, 16 December 2005 07:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It's like saying, "we know what chronological order is, we know what I mean: A is to B as B is to A, so don't make an issue out of nothing."

NO!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 13:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I used to like half of Big Generator when I was a kid. My mom had the tape.

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 16 December 2005 14:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Alex— Besides, are you aware that your sentence structure would make no sense as a response to Stormy Davis? I'm pretty sure he thought I was saying Jon sounded like Jerry Garcia and so he politely commented that they were both "both very gently beautiful singers." My response was to say, "I didn't mean their voices sounded similar; if anything Jon's voice sounds like Sting there." It would be totally bizarre to instead say, "Sting sounds like Jon!"

NO!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 14:02 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Scott, how familiar with the Grateful Dead are you, really? If I remember correctly, you're more of a Dead-hater/metal-enthusiast, correct?"


i'm quite familiar with the dead, actually. And you don't remember correctly. Well, I am a metal fan, but I'm a dead fan too. I just like making fun of anyone who isn't jerry. I'm not a "deadhead" which means that i feel no obligation to love every member of the band. I am a Hunter/Garcia fan all the way. Any chance I get to make fun of bob weir or mickey hart i will take.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 16 December 2005 14:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

But you let Phil Lesh off the hook?

k/l (Ken L), Friday, 16 December 2005 14:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

phil lesh was the least of their problems as a band. he's easy to ignore. those two clodhoppers on drums though, not so easy to ignore. i have no beef with any of their mediocre dead keyboard players though.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 16 December 2005 14:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Phil Lesh is a great bass player! After reading a review that described his bass lines as something like "a hot giant desert sandworm" snaking its way through the songs, I heard it in a whole different light. I get a perfect vision of a the giant sandworm and it looks/sounds amazing. I'd say his bass style is just as unique as Jerry's playing style.

NO!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 15:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Multi x-post - Speaking of unlikely sonic comparisons, I bought the reissued Fragile a year ago and realized that if you erased Wakeman's organ, "Five Percent For Nothing" would sound just like Punch Line-era Minutemen! ('specially considering its 0:35 length.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 16 December 2005 15:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I agree with the Pitchfork comparison's to Flaming Lips and Polyphonic Spree, too. At times Flaming Lips sounds like a direct rip, not just "influenced by". Compare "This Here Giraffe" and "Christmas at the Zoo" to "Close to the Edge". I guess that song must've reminded Wayne Coyne of animals or something. But also: The Yes Album. So many seeming direct rips! I wonder if it is possible they weren't influenced by Yes?!

NO!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 16:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

No, they said in a Magnet story five years back that on the Clouds Taste Metallic tour they'd each been separately and secretly listening to Yes. For some reason they individually decided to come out of the prog-rock closet to each other--this was in the 90s when prog was still super stigmatized--only to find the other ones had the same confession to make. They credit their healthier attitude to Yes as one of the factors in conceiving of the sonic expansiveness and meticulous production of The Soft Bulletin.

prince rupert, Friday, 16 December 2005 16:45 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I used to like half of Big Generator when I was a kid.

As did I. The title track is so uncontrollably overstuffed it's fantastic. There's a serious battle on that album going on between the Trevors — with Rabin's slick arena rock moves intermittently interrupted by Horn's choral arrangements, jumpy-ass panning and orchestra blasts.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Prince Rupert, thanks for that bit of knowledge. Very interesting! (And weird.)

xpost- Big Generator? You guys must be shittin' me. I thought that was the major fall of just horrid and dated 80s rock. I think someone described it as "Def Leppard meets Queen by way of Foreigner," which sounds very bad to me!

NO!!!!!!!, Friday, 16 December 2005 17:27 (eleven years ago) Permalink

As did I. The title track is so uncontrollably overstuffed it's fantastic. There's a serious battle on that album going on between the Trevors — with Rabin's slick arena rock moves intermittently interrupted by Horn's choral arrangements, jumpy-ass panning and orchestra blasts.

I remember Jon Anderson and Trevor Rabin going on MTV to promote Big Generator's release, and Mark Goodman(maybe?) asked Trevor what it was like to have worked with Trevor Horn. Anderson reached over and covered Rabin's mouth in a 'Censored!' gesture, and Rabin ran with it, raising his voice in exaggerated, angry wordless gurgles. I guess they made up, though, when Rabin played on the Seal album.

My favorite part of Big Generator is the climax/end of "I'm Running"
("There in the heart of millions etc..."). I think that just might be the best that Rabin-era Yes ever pulled off musically.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 17 December 2005 03:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I would largely concur -- except for that part where it breaks out into a Broadway chorus.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 17 December 2005 06:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So Big Generator is good, then? I suppose that is not hard to believe. It seems that none of the albums are as bad as someone somewhere would have me believe. The Buggles shit is really cool.

NO!!!!!, Saturday, 17 December 2005 18:03 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Well, I wouldn't say "good" exactly -- in some places (say, "Almost Like Love") it's pretty bad. But whether it's the "Rhythm of Love" intro, the title track's wackiness, or just some of the production flashes, it has its moments. Worth a download...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 17 December 2005 18:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yes: 90125 / Big Generator
XTC: Skylarking / Oranges and Lemons

Both groups came up with perfect albums toward the end of the career, and then tried to build on the formula, but stumbled with key collaborators (Trevor Horn, Todd Rundgren).

Oranges is probaly better than Big Generator, but only marginally.

Mitya (mitya), Saturday, 17 December 2005 18:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Speaking of the end of their career, Is Keys To Ascension any good? What about part 2? I still never picked up a live Yes album and probably shouldn't start with one from the end of the line, but some things I've read get me curious about Keys 1 and 2.

NO!!!!, Saturday, 17 December 2005 18:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i love big generator. but i always felt like i was seriously in the minority.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'd never thought to compare Yes to the Police but listening to Drama, Trevor Horn does sound very Sting-ish on "Into the Lens", probably more than he sounds like Anderson. The whole track does have a Police-like quality to it.

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Keys to Ascension sucks. Both volumes are really bad, chores to listen to. If you're really curious about late-era Yes, the one I'd go with is The Ladder, where some of the energy from way back resurfaces. Both the ten minute plus songs are pretty trippy, and though there's adult contemporary stuff fluffy enough to make a non-fan cringe, there's also energetic prog-pop up to Drama/90125 standards. And to make use of that XTC analogy--The Ladder would be Apple Venus, Vol. 1.

prince rupert, Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
Honestly, it's not quite my thang (though I've listened to the new reissue and it's mighty fun) but I thought you New York Yessed out types might wanna come see these folks at Joe's Pub. Don't hate me for spammin'.


THE SYN (WITH CHRIS SQUIRE AND ALAN WHITE OF YES) WITH STEVE NARDELLI
Sunday January 8
7:00 PM
http://www.synmusic.net
Before there was YES, there was The Syn. Their New York Debut concert, this promises to be a very special CD release party for their new album, Syndestructible. According to Scope Magazine, former Virgin Records U.K. head Jon Webster describes Syndestructible as "the album that will bring people rushing back to prog-rock. Brilliant!" Effectively describing themselves as Prog Modernists, The Syn in their new incarnation are comprised of original members Chris Squire on bass and Stephen Nardelli on vocals, the band is rounded out by classically trained keyboardist Gerard Johnson and twin brothers Paul Stacey (Oasis) and Jeremy Stacey (Sheryl Crow, the Finn Brothers) on guitar and drums, respectively. Coming together after 40 years, and bringing their unique alt-rock, prog-rock sound and plenty of new material to New York for the very first time (indeed this is the band’s first North American performance), this is a show that can’t be missed!

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 05:13 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Gerard Johnson has also been playing with Saint Etienne for the last five or so years. Probably not the right street cred for the prog audience.

Mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 05:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

According to Scope Magazine, former Virgin Records U.K. head Jon Webster describes Syndestructible as "the album that will bring people rushing back to prog-rock. Brilliant!"

Apparently, Richard Branson isn't totally insane.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

If you're at all curious, they hooked us up with THREE singles for download that were JUST recorded; give em a listen.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

But Peter Banks (ex-Syn/Yes guitarist) does not approve...

http://www.peterbanks.net/

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

has anyone heard the new syn album? ritchie unterberger's amg review makes it sound not so great

prince rupert, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 23:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

eleven years pass...

RIP Virgil Howe :(

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 13 September 2017 14:32 (two months ago) Permalink


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