defend the indefensible: TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS, by YES

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because i am listening to it right now, and i am finding it quite defensible. to put it another way -- it doesn't sound THAT much different, or more indulgent, than other yes albums i've heard. sure, it's got SOME wank (read -- RICK WAKEMAN), but it's yes and that's to be expected. it also has some really lovely passages and inspired melodies (hence geir's love for the thing). as usual, i ignore jon anderson's lyrics, except for the way that they sound.

but i also know that some have loved to slag TFTO. so there MUST be something undefensible about the thing, at least to some. so what "indefensible" things are there about this? I MUST KNOW!!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 25 December 2004 15:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

p.s.: MERRY XMAS ILM. this thread is my xmas present to y'all!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 25 December 2004 15:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

why does ilm get all yessed out on xmas?

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 25 December 2004 15:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i went REALLY yessed out on this shit ... i also got the bonus disks, with the studio run-throughs. if i'm gonna go prog, i'm gonna go all out!

favorite so far: "ritual (nous sommes du soleil)," esp. for its opening.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 25 December 2004 19:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Steve Howe's Robert Fripp imitations are quite mindbending, from what I recall. Awesome cover art!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Saturday, 25 December 2004 20:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like it rather a lot, though it could do w/some trimming, I suppose. There are lots of great bits, but the whole thing doesn't really join together well, plus they keep building it up, and then dropping it down too soon, which is kind of frustrating. I don't think it's remotely indefensible, anyway. I did once have this plan to import the whole lot into a wav editor, ad see how much smaller it would get if I cut all the slack bits out.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 25 December 2004 21:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

60 minutes.

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 25 December 2004 22:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Second best Yes album (only beaten by "Close To The Edge"), and one of the 50 best albums ever released by any act.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 25 December 2004 22:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

dude.. the studio runthroughs on the new bonus disc is AWESOME!#@$!#@@!#@!$#@%$

chaki in charge (chaki), Saturday, 25 December 2004 22:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I bought my copy (along with Fragile, Close To The Edge, Yessongs and Relayer) literally a few weeks before the latest wave of remasters came out, so wounded pride prevents me from buying the newest edition. No bonus tracks for me. Fortunately, the sound on the 2000(?) editions is excellent.

(I do have the latest reissues of The Yes Album and Going For The One.)

My morning commute is 70 minutes if I take the early train, 80 minutes if I take the late train. So sometimes I'll take the late train just so I can listen to TFTO in its entirety on my iPod.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 25 December 2004 22:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Pashmina, there's a bit on one of Howe's solo albums where he condenses all of his best stuff on _TFTO_ into about seven minutes. It's played solo acoustic, so you're not really getting the full-band experience, but I thought the basic idea was pretty solid :-)

And 'Gates of Delirium' is better than anything on _TFTO_ anyway.

Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Sunday, 26 December 2004 02:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

And 'Gates of Delirium' is better than anything on _TFTO_ anyway.

Amen.

And I do appreciate TfTO very much, especially the acoustic bit on "the Ancient" and the 'relayer' section on "the Remembering".

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Sunday, 26 December 2004 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

say what you will about the music; the real challenge would be to defend the liner notes.

shookout (shookout), Sunday, 26 December 2004 14:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The liner notes are awesome (with the 'atmospheric photography', etc.). But they're not as good as the liner notes for Olias of Sunhillow.

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 26 December 2004 14:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The worst part of Tales From Topographic Oceans is having to flip it or change the LP after each song.

It's also not as good as Close To The Edge or Fragile or The Yes Album. In fact, I probably listen to it least of all the Yes I own. But I still wouldn't trade it for an ole' brown mare.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 26 December 2004 21:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ignoring entirely the question of the quality of the lyrics themselves, the colours & size of the typeface used to reproduce 'em in the gatefold of my old double LP resulted in one of the most literally unreadable sets of liner notes ever, surpassed only by Jimi Hendrix's Rainbow Bridge and Merzbow's Age Of 369/Chant 2. Maybe mine was defective, who knows?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 27 December 2004 19:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like Yes but I can ONLY listen to this album when I'm stoned out of my gourd, otherwise it just bores me.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 27 December 2004 19:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

On a flight from Houston, TX to Newark, NJ last night, i listened to the entirety of Fragile by Yes (followed by the entirety of the first Tubes album).....and a mighty sonic time was had by your humble narrarator.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 December 2004 19:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

didn't we do this recently? i mean a TFTO thread? it's great of course.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 27 December 2004 20:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

a good friend of mine once said that anyone who liked the cocteau twins and then professed to dislike tales from topographic oceans was either lying or a hypocrite. having now heard tfto and its studio run-throughs in their entirety, i'm still finding it hard to hear this alleged yes-cocteau twins link. maybe the cocteaus at their most meandering, but even then what linkage there may be seems really strained.

i'm also pleasantly surprised that there are no bashers yet. surely there MUST be some here?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 December 2004 07:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

probably anyone inclined to bash it would not have bothered to listen to it!

i have only ever heard one cocteau twins song!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 December 2004 14:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like Yes but this album just isn't that good. The second song on the first disc stands up to the other music in the Yes-Album-to- Relayer run, but none of the other three movements or songs or whatever they are is worthy of The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge, or Relayer. They're harbingers of the fall off from the classic years beginning in Going for the One and then reaching its nadir in Tormato.

martin hilliard, Thursday, 30 December 2004 16:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Should I buy "Close to the Edge" to start with?

Ganbare Goemon (ex machina), Thursday, 30 December 2004 16:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Close to the Edge might be too much at first. You may want to ease into it all with The Yes Album or Fragile. But if you're feeling bold, go straight to the source.

martin hilliard, Thursday, 30 December 2004 16:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

re the original question:

when I was a big Yes fan in Jr High, TFTO was the only one of their albums I couldn't get through. Now it's the only one I still occasionally listen to (probably because I haven't played it to death like the others). But after reading this thread, I listened to it again to try to remember what I used to find so difficult about it. I think it was because compared to something like The Gates of Delirium, TFTO doesn't progress though movements in a way that seems logical. On the contrary, it meanders around seemingly changing direction at random. In that way it's a much better match for my current tastes. The other difference I noticed is that The Gates of Delirium gives you occasional doses of fist pumping payoff (er, well as close as it gets considering who we're talking about here) and there's almost none of that on TFTO. That was probably a lot of the problem. Too cerebral and not emo enough. Or something.

On the other side of the coin, I can't stand Close to the Edge anymore. A lot of sections on that album just seem to overstay their welcome.

cheshy f cät, Thursday, 30 December 2004 17:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What a doozy of a great album. And when they do stuff off this thing LIVE .... my Lord.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 30 December 2004 19:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i like this better than most of Relayer. Yes just isn't good trying to do "jazz!" except during their Bruford period cuz he makes it sound authentic for some reason. "To be Over" is a great track to end mixtapes with though.

chaki in charge (chaki), Thursday, 30 December 2004 20:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
I haven't listened to this for a while, I thought I'd bring it in and sling it on. For some reason, it's really hitting the spot. It's so...uplifting! It just goes up and up and up and up. So rich & warm-sounding. It's great. I keep spacing out, listening to it.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 April 2006 08:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I keep spacing out, listening to it.

Ha ha, that reminds me of a friend of mine who was listening to a vinyl copy of this and it got going into this repetitive sort of riff in a funny time signature and he was like, "Wow, that's quite cool". And it kept going on and on and on. Then he fell asleep and when he woke up it was still going and he was like, "I knew this was record was long but Jesus!" Then he realised the record had been stuck for 45 minutes.

Kids Will Eat Them Till the Cows Come Home (Dada), Thursday, 27 April 2006 08:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It is great. I was just listening to it the other night - hadn't sounded so good in ages. I still don't like the way it threatens a big fuckoff ending and then closes with a whimper, and I'd even say that the only fully thought-out track on it is "The Remembering" but I find myself playing this album an awful lot, for a double.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Thursday, 27 April 2006 09:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ha, as it happens, I've had to pause it a coupla times b/c the phone has rung, and both times it's got stuck in a loop for about 10s before resuming normal play, one of the times the loop was totally, totally hypnotic.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 27 April 2006 09:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

if you've got the gatefold record, you can use it to help roll a joint.

far out.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I bought this album
in junior high and my friends
thought I was KRAZEE

I used to crank it
while I lifted weights, which meant
it all cancelled out

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 April 2006 14:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So, defenders, just out of curiosity, which of the four sides is best?

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like side 2 best. Every other side has its peaks and troughs. Side 3 contains one of the most annoying guitar sounds I can call to mind, but on the plus side there are some lovely passages and one particular riff that invariably tricks me because I can't quite figure out when the drums and bass are going to kick back in again. Side 4 is at times as good as Yes get, and as silly.

Lotta Continua (Damian), Sunday, 30 April 2006 18:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

side 3 is the one to skip everything else keep

city of gyros (chaki), Sunday, 30 April 2006 18:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I d/l-ed side one yesterday and listened through it. Not the shite its reputed to be, but it didn't grab me at first pass. A lot of familiar sounds (Howe's... um, that thing he does that sounds like playing a melody line at I-V intervals; Squire's proto-Hooky bass lines) but I usually like songs and not just music.

Ironically enough, considering Pashima's

It's so...uplifting! It just goes up and up and up and up. So rich & warm-sounding.

it segued into "Going for the One" and I thought, "Now THIS is uplifting." Something about the high synth sounds in the background, literally pulling you up throughout the song.

someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Monday, 1 May 2006 06:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

its a grower not a shower

city of gyros (chaki), Monday, 1 May 2006 08:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ha ha, and Anna was laughing at me yesterday for dancing around her office with her colleague's Yes triple live album, singing all the good bits in a ridiculous falsetto. But you understand my love.

I should actually get some of this again, since I only ever listened to my dad's albums.

Wear High Heels, Get A Record Deal (kate), Monday, 1 May 2006 11:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Side 2 reaches the highest highs (the climax at the end) and the drabbiest drabs (mostly in the first minutes of the song).

Side 1 and 4 are the most consistent.

Joe (Joe), Monday, 1 May 2006 22:18 (eleven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
I just watched my DVD of YES doing "Ritual" at their '95 Madison Square Garden concert and Steve Howe is a motherf***er. No. Really. Whew.

OK, Good night.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Saturday, 10 February 2007 11:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh, wait, that was 2005.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Saturday, 10 February 2007 11:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

god i love this album so much

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 10 February 2007 12:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

i am listening to this motherfucking album all the way through for the first time EVER right now

taddletail (country matters), Monday, 13 April 2009 14:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

side 2 is where it's at. feel safe now!

kamerad, Monday, 13 April 2009 15:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok

this is gonna take a few listens to sink in

yes threads (country matters), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

like, i enjoyed it pretty much throughout, but uh

yes threads (country matters), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

it's 7 hours long?

fucken cumlord (omar little), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

yep

yes threads (country matters), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

jesus

fucken cumlord (omar little), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

It was the the entire history of band members apart from Rabin interviewed individually, only 4 or 5 years ago. I've heard the some members say it is a crowning achievement, or at least "Gates Of Delirium" (which really dominates most peoples thoughts of the album). It is a pretty good documentary, there is some brutal honesty, Bruford says the present version of the band may as well be a tribute band, Tony Kaye has an unpleasant story to tell about the live Yes Union gigs (which includes meeting Billy Connoly) which other members insist didnt happen the way Kaye remembers and a sound tech guy mocks their 80s pop era.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 23:59 (four years ago) Permalink

That legendary quote from Rick Wakeman about how Union should have been called Onion springs to mind... "because it made (him) cry"... heh heh heh...

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:08 (four years ago) Permalink

Sorry I meant Peter Banks, not Tony Kaye.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:11 (four years ago) Permalink

I was that at LA show on the Union tour where the Peter Banks story took place. Weird gig, but all eight playing on "Awaken" was pretty transcendent.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:23 (four years ago) Permalink

Anyone else think Tormato is seriously underrated? I watched the Classic Artists Yes documentary (about 4 hours long) and heard parts of it, wondering why the members barely said much about it (Relayer is also not talked about much at all)because the clips sounded so catchy.

it's really an odd duck. it's their first album since Time and a Word that keeps things relatively short (or - nothing over 8 minutes!) and it definitely feels like an attempt to modernize their sound in some really weird and clueless ways. there are a lot of chirpy melodies, a straight good times rock n' roll song ("Release, Release"), and "Arriving UFO", which is one of the most unintentionally hilarious songs ever. plus "Circus of Heaven", equally bizarre. Oooh, and they attempt disco too, and it's every bit as terrible as you can imagine. it really is the sound of a band that either tried to reach a new audience and fell on its face, or just one that wanted to just toss something off that was different from the sidelongs they'd been doing for their last four albums. It actually is quite catchy in spots - the first and last tracks are classic Yes, and the more "off" tunes are at least mighty entertaining. I like it!

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:32 (four years ago) Permalink

What they did say in the doc was that the concept was to do an album with no unified thread, and that was the reason for the back cover with all band members looking in a different direction. I think they had mixed feelings about that in retrospect but I would have liked a few more albums like that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 00:54 (four years ago) Permalink

tormato is great (but still quite silly)

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 01:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Silly is a great quality, my ideal prog records should have some absurdity in them. Whenever I go looking for prog I always think "I want something really fucking bonkers", but to be honest, I dont think there is much that consistently does that.

I use "stupid" or "dumb" to mean bad.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 01:17 (four years ago) Permalink

yep

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 01:17 (four years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4Yn6XEbV7g

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:20 (four years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2_qOJP2peo

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:25 (four years ago) Permalink

it is no lie i see deeply into the future. steve howe's roadie will play lead guitar on the best music johnny rotten will ever be involved with

fuck the haters

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 03:28 (four years ago) Permalink

the final word on Tormato is here:

The 120 Days of Shameless Bids for Publicity!

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 04:19 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah that thread describes it pretty well, if you were curious

Silly is a great quality, my ideal prog records should have some absurdity in them. Whenever I go looking for prog I always think "I want something really fucking bonkers", but to be honest, I dont think there is much that consistently does that.

It's better when there's sort of a knowing absurdity (for example on a Cardiacs record) - musically, I think Relayer is a little more absurd for how incredibly loud and boisterous the whole thing is, just so balls-out and stupid in certain places, and "Sound Chaser" is probably their single craziest composition ever. Tormato is a little more akin to Love Beach(another album that isn't quite as bad as you've heard)

frogbs, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 13:24 (four years ago) Permalink

Ever since I really got into Yes a few years ago, Tales has always been my favorite. Pretty much everything they did up to and including that album was more or less amazing, though.

Austin, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:41 (four years ago) Permalink

...and then Relayer came after it and pissed all over it completely!

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 15:00 (four years ago) Permalink

I will concede that the 'Soon' portion of 'Gates of Delerium' is my favorite song by the band, by quite a bit.

Austin, Thursday, 18 July 2013 02:37 (four years ago) Permalink

Stormy Davis says "the final word on Tormato is here:

The 120 Days of Shameless Bids for Publicity!"

I just read that thread and no offense meant to Dave Q but a lot of the desciptions dont really click for me and I cant fully trust anyone who thinks "Gates Of Delirium" is yucky.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 18 July 2013 12:19 (four years ago) Permalink

I can definitely understand it to a degree; a lot of Yesmusic is calculated and has an awesome groove to it, while 3/4ths of Relayer is all-out crazy fusion prog punctuated by some prettier moments. I mean there are people in this thread who are lukewarm on Close to the Edge which is just crazy talk. I really wish that "To Be Over" was better (i've always found it pretty but I never remember a thing about it!) because then it would be a top 3 Yes album (hell, it might be anyway).

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2013 12:57 (four years ago) Permalink

don't doubt your part - be ready to be loved!

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:13 (four years ago) Permalink

The problem with TFTO is that they didn't seem to have integrated Alan White very well, so far too much of it just plods along in mid-paced 4/4 time. Occasionally they'll hit some crazy prog groove, but there's just no dynamic to it. It's like an 80 minute version of "South Side Of The Sky", the Yes epic no-one talks about because no-one can remember how it goes.

OORT (Matt #2), Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:15 (four years ago) Permalink

i only play this occasionally but never regret it.

as touched on upthread, i think if you heighten the importance/worth of this record you're setting yourself up for a fall. it's good, some people like it, the end.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:18 (four years ago) Permalink

but i also really like 'release release' so whatever

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I think Squire getting kinda buried in the mix is a bigger problem. And do people really not remember "South Side of the Sky"? That's always been a favorite of mine..

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:20 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah what? south side is catchy as

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:22 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought it had more of a reputation as the epic that didn't get played live, it's the only big track from the TYA/Fragile/CTTE era that isn't on Yessongs, it's not on Yesshows or either of the Keys to Ascension releases either. I dunno why they shunned that one but all the fans seem to love it.

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:26 (four years ago) Permalink

move forward, was my friend's only cry

and yeah bruford on tales instead of larks' tongues would have been interesting. white's found his groove by relayer though

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:34 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought it had more of a reputation as the epic that didn't get played live, it's the only big track from the TYA/Fragile/CTTE era that isn't on Yessongs, it's not on Yesshows or either of the Keys to Ascension releases either. I dunno why they shunned that one but all the fans seem to love it.

But they did; they did an entire tour in 1974 where they played the whole thing. There's a bootleg of it floating around, called Topographic.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 18 July 2013 13:45 (four years ago) Permalink

I really wish that "To Be Over" was better

I want everybody to know that in an effort to be a better person i restrained myself from clicking FP here

god i really need to not read people with mixed opinions about Yes

the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 July 2013 14:06 (four years ago) Permalink

I really like "South Side Of The Sky", I heard that they were playing it more in the last tours with Anderson. "Awaken" is the one that really doesnt do much for me but a lot of people seem to love it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 18 July 2013 14:34 (four years ago) Permalink

"Anyone else think Tormato is seriously underrated"

I HATED this album when I first heard it. Hated it so much I threw it away and didn't listen to it again for years. And then when I did I thought it really wasn't that bad; the worst thing about it is the cover and Jon Anderson's kid talking about clowns. It's a terrible sounding record though (so is Going for the One).

akm, Thursday, 18 July 2013 14:41 (four years ago) Permalink

never been able to get into "awaken" either or most of going for the one. tormato is still lost on me. but then comes drama and holy shit, god bless the buggles

a nice defense of tales if you are at all into michael chabon ~

I actually write, frequently, while listening to Yes records: Close to the Edge, Relayer, and Tales from Topographic Oceans. The dynamics are pretty steady, the bass and drums are propulsive, and the lyrics make no sense (to me, at least) and thus do not intrude on my own word-flow. They are just pretty sounds. I listen to vinyl records, unless I'm working on a plane.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/09/10/michael_chabon_interview_why_the_telegraph_avenue_author_still_loves_prog_rock_.html

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 July 2013 14:49 (four years ago) Permalink

It's a terrible sounding record though (so is Going for the One).

tormato was my reference record when i went through headphone hell a few years ago, mainly because the bass is mixed in fairly solidly right the way through

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:25 (four years ago) Permalink

GftO sounds awesome in my car

frogbs, Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:28 (four years ago) Permalink

MOVE YOURSELF! *orchestral hit*

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:29 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

OK GUYS
I actually knocked up an edited version of this album, decide for yourself whether or not it's an improvement :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2IIeDJYjOU

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Friday, 9 August 2013 13:54 (four years ago) Permalink

Sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2IIeDJYjOU

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Friday, 9 August 2013 13:57 (four years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l49P4F-gpm4

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Friday, 9 August 2013 13:57 (four years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iHKFBlx0t8

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Friday, 9 August 2013 13:58 (four years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SnvkS11K0s

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Friday, 9 August 2013 13:59 (four years ago) Permalink

That's very well done. I love those ambient parts in the second track.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 10 August 2013 15:33 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I think it was an interesting time for the band, that period. There was a lot of FM radio who would play long-form pieces of music without any advertising. We felt we were on the cutting edge of rock music —- progressive rock —- totally different from the norm. And the FM radio in America —- especially university radio —- was very excited to play “Close to the Edge,” “And You and I,” “Starship Trooper,” and longer pieces. So we felt, well, the door seems to be open. Let’s make some music. And of course, when people get together to make music, you don’t really time it and say, “We should just make four-minute pieces of music.” Or five-minute pieces of music. We were just interested in expanding the music that we dreamed of. It wasn’t like, “Let’s sit down and write twenty-minute pieces of music.” We just started writing. We were actually on tour in Japan and Australia, and we started composing ideas, and before you know it, you’re dreaming of new progressions and ideas that are just different. Like having everyone in the band drumming at once. Or having everybody singing and playing different instruments. Challenging yourself, really.

http://www.examiner.com/article/jon-anderson-of-yes-raids-rock-vault-talks-topographic-oceans-40-years-on

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 15 September 2013 00:52 (four years ago) Permalink

That's a great article!

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 15 September 2013 05:43 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, that's great. i like this album a whole lot. a lot of people are still stuck in some version of the punk vs. prog false dilemma, even if they don't know it.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 15 September 2013 23:15 (four years ago) Permalink

That article talks about a prog cruise Jon is participating in, to which a friend replied in an email:

Let me get this straight...

Are you telling me that I have the opportunity to experience the best and worst of prog while enjoying the close-quarters company of some of the most socially awkward old people in all of fandom, and top it all off with the rapid spread of virulent rocket diarrhea?

SIGN ME THE FUCK UP.

...at which point another friend pointed out that Jon and Yes have dueling cruises, prompting him to say:

I just realized that the Yes cruise will have Eddie Jobson, Patrick Moraz, and whoever the current Yes keyboard player is (assuming it's not one of them) all in the same boat, and if it sinks, the keyboard world will be devastated. That's after they get intentionally rammed by the Punk Cruise featuring The Ramones (Legacy), Jello Biafra, and two guys from Stiff Little Fingers.

Prog!

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 16 September 2013 00:48 (four years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

I still listen to that Matt#2 edit of this album, it's deepened my appreciation of the album

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 1 June 2014 16:13 (three years ago) Permalink

Is that to be found elsewhere on this thread? I remember wanting to hear it.

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 2 June 2014 17:58 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2IIeDJYjOU

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 2 June 2014 18:34 (three years ago) Permalink

cool, thanks

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 2 June 2014 18:52 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

pass amongst your memories told returning ways

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 13 April 2018 00:24 (one week ago) Permalink


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