why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

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not that there's an answer for this, or anyone would try to take a stab at one, but still

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link

"yessed out"?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link

you know, in and around the lake, mountains come out of the sky, and they stand there. I'd like to know.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link

We in the USA like to smoke ourselves some dope, trev.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

like look at half these threads right now. I'm not complaining. I'm just curious.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i am a camera

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I just recently got dial-up and when I come home drunk but not tired this keeps the mind busy. lick it up.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not actually listening to Yes, just Utopia. Soz.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:28 (fifteen years ago) link

What ILM looks light after midnight...

http://yes.iq.pl/images/jade_sea.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.huether-net.de/tickets/yes.jpg

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Ian pretty much nailed. We got our smoke on and our drink on, and then we slap on "Yours Is No Disgrace".

Caesar's Palace, morning glory, silly human silly human siillllyy huuuuuuman race....

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

it's when us Yes fans are at our most alert.

http://www.doheth.co.uk/profiles/cbg.gif

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

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Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I still don't understand the question. Can you speak Amurrican and explain?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I positively affirm and agree with you, trevor. Now, what was the question again?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah crap, the formatting screwed up my lovely ascii art.

I fucking love "Yours Is No Disgrace" so damn much. What a beautiful, beautiful song. Howe's playing on the whole Yes Album just blows me away.

I grew listening to WIOT out of Toledo, Ohio, and when 90120 came out they used to play "Our Song" all the time because it had that line "Toledo is just another stop along the good king's highway". Like, they actually thought it was about Toledo, Ohio!!

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I have to go to bed. Guess this is the best place to leave it for now.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I can try, guy upthread. It's late in the great plains. There are many threads with new answers. Many of these new answers seem to involve Yes references. In the daytime this doesn't happen. The question is is this some strange phenomenon? What are its roots? Should something be done about it? Or should it just go on? I think it should. But am I wrong? Why? That is the question.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link

grew up listening. damn, why I have been doing that dropping words thing so much lately??

Yes fans jonesing for more YESSOUNDS should totally check out those two latter-day Os Mutantes LPs, by the way. When they got all progged-out. Total Yes homages.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Pleasant Plains, one down one to go, another town and one more show.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Or to put it another way. Say I'm a veteran ILMer. "I think I'm appalled by these shenanigans. Yes. . . . No!" Is this an ILM death knell? That would be an interesting meta-discussion that will not occur.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh. See, I haven't EVER listened to a Yes song before (exception proving rule would be "Owner of a Lonely Heart" which I rather like) so all that's been going right over my head.

I thought "yessed out" was some sort of cockney slang for "sucking it's own dick" or somethin'.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:48 (fifteen years ago) link

a few days ago, i felt like that dude in the "owner of a lonely heart" video when he was on the rooftop surrounded by the oh-so menacing members of yes (circa '84, so no rick wakeman [the ONLY vaguely scary member of yes EVAH]).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Forksclove, you should ditch the indie rock and pick up The Yes Album and Fragile toot sweet. Two of the finest albums on God's green, sticky, hydroponic earth.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:50 (fifteen years ago) link

ME OTM, though that's not where the goodness stops by any means.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Jon Anderson could potentially be scary in an evil elf-leprechaun sort of way.

Your mention of the "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" video reminded me there was one version that had a guy with maggots crawling around on top of his closed eyelids. Did "Fear Factor" rip off this idea? I think MTV stopped showing that version.

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

speaking of the raincoats cds (er, on another thread tonight), those os mutantes reissues on omplattern are now OOP and worth $$$$. i actually parted with mine at some point, for reasons i don't quite understand.

i love yes. sometimes i'll be walking around and suddenly a bass line from some yes song will pop into my head and i'll be all excited.

would that ilm actually were a bit more yessed out.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Hm. Well I'll certainly give it a run. Anybody who wants to mail a representative single or two is welcome to.

One of my (many) large gaps of musical knowledge is rock of any variety from 1970-1985 or so.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:58 (fifteen years ago) link

It's all about "Tempus Fugit" for me, man.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:59 (fifteen years ago) link

The really technical part of "Heart of the Sunrise" is killer.

Wobbly, if you're out there, tell your Jon Anderson at NAMM story . . .

best

Drew

Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link

actually I'm all tulled out tonight.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link


Was this NAMM in Anaheim in like 96? At one of those shows I heard rumors that Jon Anderson was there and I was pissed that I never saw him. But for all I know he goes to all of them...

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay I guess he's not so here's his story of spotting Jon Anderson at NAMM

at a booth that sells vocoder software there is a man earnestly saying in a silvery, elven speaking voice reminiscent of Glinda the Good Witch "no, no, NO, you don't understand. I want to make my computer-" and here he erupts into a shivery high melodious flutter "s-i-i-iing!" and it's HIM and he's singing the word "sing" in THAT Yes voice.

Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh my god, Drew -- that story is amazing! I think I would die on the spot. Such a voice.

What is NAMM, anyway?

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:57 (fifteen years ago) link

The biggest US musical instrument trade fair.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Isn't is just late at night in the US the Brits arrive, and drive the whole thing stupid?

___ (___), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:25 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...
REVIVE!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks Eisbar, I loved this thread.

I just watched some of that DVD "The Future Is Wild", the cheezy computer animated forecast of what freakish species will dominate this planet in 200 million years. It was very Yessed out too, CGI supercontinent-formation footage and giant global oceans (topographic tales of .. .)

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

um, i was just listening to the following yessed out record:

http://stat.discogs.com/R/262506-1103102672.jpg

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link

does it also SOUND like yes, jbr?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:43 (fifteen years ago) link

does not matter!

Olias of Sunhillow Critical Edition, with commentary track guest starring the 'scientists' from The Future Is Wild

sharkopath (Jon L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

does it also SOUND like yes, jbr?

maybe a little like the trevor horn yes (or maybe i just wish it sounded more like trevor horn yes).

it's basically arp-heavy metronomic 1978 eurosynth cheese.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link

This should have said "North America" to include sundar.

LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i still have yet to consciously hear a yes song

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

not purposefully or anything, i mean, i'd like to hear a yessong i guess

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Is there anyone besides me who can't hear the pastoral-rainforest sounding intro (and outro) to "Close To The Edge" without mentally visualizing Roger Dean's impossible landscapes? And vice-versa?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

ahh, side A of 'close to the edge' has really been doing it for me lately. i love all those drum fills that go right through the first ONE beat and splash back in somewhere in the middle of the bar. anothe reason of why i like it so much is because it kind of reminds of this local band here called form of rocket that does similar type things (fast, frenetic parts / churning, odd time signatures / that drum fill thing)

6335, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Is there anyone besides me who can't hear the pastoral-rainforest sounding intro (and outro) to "Close To The Edge" without mentally visualizing Roger Dean's impossible landscapes? And vice-versa?

I always see a Dean landscape, or some Art Nouveau P. Craig Russell planet landscape whenever I listen to Yes. Except for Yes mach-90125 and onward.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, Larry Coryell *sheds tear*

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:41 (nine months ago) link

How was he involved?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:51 (nine months ago) link

Heard a number of people say it’s his best solo effort since Olais but idk if that’s a compliment

I think it’s pretty nice, more modern sounding than I was expecting and way better than the “Make me Happy” single implied it would be

frogbs, Saturday, 26 October 2019 16:56 (nine months ago) link

all i know can be shown by your acceptance of the facts there shown before you

mookieproof, Sunday, 27 October 2019 00:34 (nine months ago) link

Heard a number of people say it’s his best solo effort since Olais but idk if that’s a compliment

Haven't heard this new one yet but the album he did with Roine Stolt in 2016, Invention of Knowledge, was pretty great.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 27 October 2019 00:55 (nine months ago) link

JA's 1,000 Hands has my favorite new "yes" music since fly from here

this sounds way better than heaven & earth but still pretty shitty of them to surprise-release this "new" stuff on JA's 75th birthday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKUK_frQEsQ

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 27 October 2019 17:33 (nine months ago) link

Invention of Knowledge is pretty good but idk if it's a true solo album. I kinda assumed Stolt wrote most of the music there

this new EP (?) looks pretty decent, Benoit David sounds a lot better than I remember him

lol that they're packaging this with a pretty lame live set, cmon guys

frogbs, Monday, 28 October 2019 19:48 (nine months ago) link

the level of commitment here to post-anderson yes deserves a characterization stronger than "yessed out"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 October 2019 19:51 (nine months ago) link

like maybe "yessed af" or "hyperyessed"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 October 2019 19:51 (nine months ago) link

or "yessgottabekiddin'!"

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 28 October 2019 20:24 (nine months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMpdxAxDjw

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:57 (nine months ago) link

Just a bit of backstory on it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 8 November 2019 18:13 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

political ends as sad remains will die

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 December 2019 04:56 (seven months ago) link

I spun 'Animation' the other day- definitely not Yes but it had its moments.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 20 December 2019 04:32 (seven months ago) link

they move fast
they tell me
but i just can't believe
that i can feeeeeeel iiiiiiiit

clouds, Saturday, 21 December 2019 14:33 (seven months ago) link

ok the 4-song EP with Benoit David is actually pretty nice

frogbs, Monday, 30 December 2019 14:32 (seven months ago) link

two months pass...

Sharp distancing

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:34 (four months ago) link

i feel lost in the cityyyyyyyy

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:36 (four months ago) link

awaken gentle mass DON'T touch

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:44 (four months ago) link

lol reggie

doug watson, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:15 (four months ago) link

yessed out rn in fact

j., Friday, 27 March 2020 21:24 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Has this been linked before?

http://yessongs.nl/

A dizzying amount of live recordings and studio outtakes from all eras, endless amounts of stuff and no hoops to jump through.

Maresn3st, Sunday, 12 April 2020 18:40 (four months ago) link

And there you are
Saying we have the moon
So now the stars

jmm, Sunday, 12 April 2020 19:09 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

yesterday, a morning came. a smile upon your face!

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 01:57 (three months ago) link

love it when late at night does qualmsley get yessed out

j., Wednesday, 29 April 2020 04:14 (three months ago) link

Silly human race

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 04:27 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I’m listening to the Anderson Bruford wakeman howe album from 89. I know it’s the 80s but that gated snare just kills Howe’s feel. Tons of synthy bleep bloops. Anderson going on about deserts and religions.

calstars, Saturday, 23 May 2020 20:47 (two months ago) link

a lot of the best deserts started in religions

budo jeru, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:21 (two months ago) link

was that a typo for "deserets"

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:25 (two months ago) link

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness and tales from topographic oceans.

budo jeru, Sunday, 24 May 2020 00:47 (two months ago) link

I was going to ask in the Rough Guide requests thread, but it hasn't been opened in 14 years.

Could any kind soul please provide a map to the good stuff from their output from 90125 to present day?

I have heard some things from that period but I don't feel up to a qualitative audit and am sure there must be some worthy tunes hiding in there.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:27 (two months ago) link

i like pretty much everything on 90125. "city of love" is my least favorite, though the chorus is HUGE, and i think its moodiness sets up the finale, "hearts", really well

never been able to get into big generator

songs i listen to on union -- "masquerade", "lift me up", "without hope you cannot start the day", "silent talking", "holding on", and "take the water to the mountain"

the only song on talk i'd say is a keeper is "real love", though if you can find a version of "endless dream" that's one track, that's worth a listen

i go back and forth with keystudio -- give the first song, "footprints", a listen, and if that does it for you, keep going. otherwise, skip it

open your eyes -- skip it

the ladder rules. "homeworld", "it will be a good day", "lightning strikes"/"can i?"/"face to face", "to be alive", "new language", and "nine voices" all feature classic yes spirit in part or all the way through

never been able to get into magnification

fly from here rules, both versions (david's vocals and trevor's vocals, a few years later). "sad night at the airfield", "madman at the screens", "life on a film set", "hour of need", and "into the storm" are all worth your time

if open your eyes isn't the worst yes album, then heaven & earth is

some solo stuff you might want to check out

trevor rabin -- jacaranda. this is the best stuff i've heard from him since 90125

jon anderson -- his most recent album, 1000 hands, has some decent jams on it, as does the album he recorded with jean-luc ponty. i keep giving the one he recorded with roine stolt a chance, but nothing ever sticks

skyscraper souls (geoff downes and chris braide) is the most underrated recentish solo project i've heard. andy partridge is on half the songs, kate pierson sings backing vocals on the 18-minute epic, and marc almond sings on one of the other songs

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:16 (two months ago) link

Big Generator - pretty decent if you like 90125, kinda sounds to me like what The Police would've become had they not split in '86. The title track single is pretty bad but I like most of the rest.

Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - all I can remember from this one is fucking "Teikbois" but it's kinda okay, its got a whole lotta Jon on it though

Union - as bad as everyone says it is. only the solo Howe instrumental is worth saving.

Talk - fairly decent, has their first bona fide epic in forever and a lot of it is pretty if kinda New Ageish. despite being sort of a trilogy with 90125 and BG I don't think it really sounds like those albums.

Keys to Ascension - half studio and half live, I guess this is okay if you wanna hear the classic Yes lineup operating at 80% capacity. some of the new tunes are pretty good but mostly they're just long. It does have that "classic Yes" feel to it in spots.

Open Your Eyes - roundly derided by most of their fans, I actually feel it's a pretty decent pop album, just don't expect classic Yes

The Ladder - the title track here is absolutely a return to their classic glory, IMO the best thing they've done since Drama. unfortunately the rest of the album is kinda lightweight and gimmicky, but they do some interesting things like embrace a bit of electronica and sample their old records. could've been the start of a legit comeback but it was not to be.

Magnification - recorded with an orchestra as they'd sacked their keyboard player for getting too handsy with a security guard. Actually quite good, just not as hooky as they usually are.

Fly From Here - the sequel to Drama that nobody really asked for, with Downes and Horn back on board. some of the material dates back to 1980 but I think that element is sort of overstated, most of the music is new. As you might expect it's not quite as good as Drama but it's actually pretty close, clearly one of their best efforts since 90125. The final track "Into the Storm" is particularly good. For some reason they re-made this album in 2018, replacing one-time singer Benoit David with Horn - the new version is probably the better one but I feel bad for the dude.

Heaven & Earth - their most recent and famously a total dud. some of the songs are actually kinda catchy but it's ridiculously lethargic, especially coming after FFH which was sort of a shot in the arm. almost falls into "so bad it's good" territory, it's one of those albums you enjoy a bit despite yourself

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:18 (two months ago) link

agree with these assessments. 90125, the Ladder, and FFH (either version) are the only really strong albums in this batch, and Talk, Open Your Eyes, and Heaven and Earth are absolutely terrible.

They recently released a few more old tracks with Benoit David on the 'From a Page' box, and those songs are pretty good but not super memorable. certainly better than anything on H&E though.

akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:26 (two months ago) link

I never liked Big Generator, it loses all the interesting subtlety that was on 90125 and becomes a bombastic mess; Talk is even worse in this regard.

akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:27 (two months ago) link

yea at best a lot of these albums are guilty pleasures, I have a lot of goodwill towards Yes so I probably overrate a lot of it as "really not that bad". if it wasn't Yes I'd probably only listen to Fly From Here and "The Ladder"

"That, That Is" from KTA has a pretty gnarly riff on it though, sucks that it's buried in a 20 minute epic. Tales-esque really

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:33 (two months ago) link

Thanks folks!

So it seems like a general paucity of good music considering the amount of records they'e made since '83, kinda amazing really.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:36 (two months ago) link

the degree to which these guys fucking hated each other after 1977 is not to be understated

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:47 (two months ago) link

I'm quite a fan of Magnification and there's at least 2 or 3 songs I really liked on Big Generator.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:49 (two months ago) link

i really want to like magnification -- yes with an orchestra for the first time since time and a word! but i don't know, maybe they slowed the tempos a bit too much to accommodate that orchestra? maybe they were missing igor, who'd brought so much energy to the ladder? i've never found a way in; if you have any song suggestions, i'd appreciate it!

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:48 (two months ago) link

I wrote a big ranking of their albums for Stereogum almost exactly 5 years ago. I liked Talk and Magnification better than some others above.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:02 (two months ago) link

it’s a safe bet that the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame will burn to the ground before they’ll be inducted.

Hope you didn't put too much money on this!

some infected evening (Matt #2), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:49 (two months ago) link

I was really into Union when it came out, and even went to see them on that tour, which was an incredibly dull concert despite being the first time the classic lineup had been together since CttE.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 May 2020 01:04 (two months ago) link

I always though this thread was a euphemism for something more interesting.

I was wrong.

Yerac, Friday, 29 May 2020 01:07 (two months ago) link

But what could be more interesting than getting all yessed out on a Thursday night?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 29 May 2020 01:10 (two months ago) link

I forgot about Magnification. The songs on it are really good but something about the presence of the orchestra makes it very bleh. There's nothing objectionable about it, it's just missing some spark.

akm, Friday, 29 May 2020 01:28 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

no doubt they were all celebrating dock ellis

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 June 2020 02:19 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

happy ye(l)s(d) day!

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 8 August 2020 13:41 (one week ago) link


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