why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

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not that there's an answer for this, or anyone would try to take a stab at one, but still

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"yessed out"?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

you know, in and around the lake, mountains come out of the sky, and they stand there. I'd like to know.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

We in the USA like to smoke ourselves some dope, trev.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

like look at half these threads right now. I'm not complaining. I'm just curious.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i am a camera

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I just recently got dial-up and when I come home drunk but not tired this keeps the mind busy. lick it up.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not actually listening to Yes, just Utopia. Soz.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:28 (seventeen years ago) link

What ILM looks light after midnight...

http://yes.iq.pl/images/jade_sea.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.huether-net.de/tickets/yes.jpg

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Ian pretty much nailed. We got our smoke on and our drink on, and then we slap on "Yours Is No Disgrace".

Caesar's Palace, morning glory, silly human silly human siillllyy huuuuuuman race....

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:32 (seventeen years ago) link

it's when us Yes fans are at our most alert.

http://www.doheth.co.uk/profiles/cbg.gif

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:33 (seventeen years ago) link

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Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I still don't understand the question. Can you speak Amurrican and explain?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I positively affirm and agree with you, trevor. Now, what was the question again?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah crap, the formatting screwed up my lovely ascii art.

I fucking love "Yours Is No Disgrace" so damn much. What a beautiful, beautiful song. Howe's playing on the whole Yes Album just blows me away.

I grew listening to WIOT out of Toledo, Ohio, and when 90120 came out they used to play "Our Song" all the time because it had that line "Toledo is just another stop along the good king's highway". Like, they actually thought it was about Toledo, Ohio!!

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to go to bed. Guess this is the best place to leave it for now.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I can try, guy upthread. It's late in the great plains. There are many threads with new answers. Many of these new answers seem to involve Yes references. In the daytime this doesn't happen. The question is is this some strange phenomenon? What are its roots? Should something be done about it? Or should it just go on? I think it should. But am I wrong? Why? That is the question.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

grew up listening. damn, why I have been doing that dropping words thing so much lately??

Yes fans jonesing for more YESSOUNDS should totally check out those two latter-day Os Mutantes LPs, by the way. When they got all progged-out. Total Yes homages.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Pleasant Plains, one down one to go, another town and one more show.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Or to put it another way. Say I'm a veteran ILMer. "I think I'm appalled by these shenanigans. Yes. . . . No!" Is this an ILM death knell? That would be an interesting meta-discussion that will not occur.

trevor horn, Friday, 27 August 2004 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh. See, I haven't EVER listened to a Yes song before (exception proving rule would be "Owner of a Lonely Heart" which I rather like) so all that's been going right over my head.

I thought "yessed out" was some sort of cockney slang for "sucking it's own dick" or somethin'.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:48 (seventeen years ago) link

a few days ago, i felt like that dude in the "owner of a lonely heart" video when he was on the rooftop surrounded by the oh-so menacing members of yes (circa '84, so no rick wakeman [the ONLY vaguely scary member of yes EVAH]).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Forksclove, you should ditch the indie rock and pick up The Yes Album and Fragile toot sweet. Two of the finest albums on God's green, sticky, hydroponic earth.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

ME OTM, though that's not where the goodness stops by any means.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Jon Anderson could potentially be scary in an evil elf-leprechaun sort of way.

Your mention of the "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" video reminded me there was one version that had a guy with maggots crawling around on top of his closed eyelids. Did "Fear Factor" rip off this idea? I think MTV stopped showing that version.

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

speaking of the raincoats cds (er, on another thread tonight), those os mutantes reissues on omplattern are now OOP and worth $$$$. i actually parted with mine at some point, for reasons i don't quite understand.

i love yes. sometimes i'll be walking around and suddenly a bass line from some yes song will pop into my head and i'll be all excited.

would that ilm actually were a bit more yessed out.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Hm. Well I'll certainly give it a run. Anybody who wants to mail a representative single or two is welcome to.

One of my (many) large gaps of musical knowledge is rock of any variety from 1970-1985 or so.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

It's all about "Tempus Fugit" for me, man.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 August 2004 04:59 (seventeen years ago) link

The really technical part of "Heart of the Sunrise" is killer.

Wobbly, if you're out there, tell your Jon Anderson at NAMM story . . .

best

Drew

Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link

actually I'm all tulled out tonight.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:07 (seventeen years ago) link


Was this NAMM in Anaheim in like 96? At one of those shows I heard rumors that Jon Anderson was there and I was pissed that I never saw him. But for all I know he goes to all of them...

wetmink (wetmink), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay I guess he's not so here's his story of spotting Jon Anderson at NAMM

at a booth that sells vocoder software there is a man earnestly saying in a silvery, elven speaking voice reminiscent of Glinda the Good Witch "no, no, NO, you don't understand. I want to make my computer-" and here he erupts into a shivery high melodious flutter "s-i-i-iing!" and it's HIM and he's singing the word "sing" in THAT Yes voice.

Drew Daniel, Friday, 27 August 2004 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh my god, Drew -- that story is amazing! I think I would die on the spot. Such a voice.

What is NAMM, anyway?

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link

The biggest US musical instrument trade fair.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't is just late at night in the US the Brits arrive, and drive the whole thing stupid?

___ (___), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
REVIVE!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks Eisbar, I loved this thread.

I just watched some of that DVD "The Future Is Wild", the cheezy computer animated forecast of what freakish species will dominate this planet in 200 million years. It was very Yessed out too, CGI supercontinent-formation footage and giant global oceans (topographic tales of .. .)

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

um, i was just listening to the following yessed out record:

http://stat.discogs.com/R/262506-1103102672.jpg

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

does it also SOUND like yes, jbr?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:43 (seventeen years ago) link

does not matter!

Olias of Sunhillow Critical Edition, with commentary track guest starring the 'scientists' from The Future Is Wild

sharkopath (Jon L), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 03:46 (seventeen years ago) link

does it also SOUND like yes, jbr?

maybe a little like the trevor horn yes (or maybe i just wish it sounded more like trevor horn yes).

it's basically arp-heavy metronomic 1978 eurosynth cheese.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

This should have said "North America" to include sundar.

LaRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i think i still have yet to consciously hear a yes song

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

not purposefully or anything, i mean, i'd like to hear a yessong i guess

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there anyone besides me who can't hear the pastoral-rainforest sounding intro (and outro) to "Close To The Edge" without mentally visualizing Roger Dean's impossible landscapes? And vice-versa?

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ahh, side A of 'close to the edge' has really been doing it for me lately. i love all those drum fills that go right through the first ONE beat and splash back in somewhere in the middle of the bar. anothe reason of why i like it so much is because it kind of reminds of this local band here called form of rocket that does similar type things (fast, frenetic parts / churning, odd time signatures / that drum fill thing)

6335, Tuesday, 21 December 2004 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there anyone besides me who can't hear the pastoral-rainforest sounding intro (and outro) to "Close To The Edge" without mentally visualizing Roger Dean's impossible landscapes? And vice-versa?

I always see a Dean landscape, or some Art Nouveau P. Craig Russell planet landscape whenever I listen to Yes. Except for Yes mach-90125 and onward.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 21 December 2004 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel like the reviews in the 1983 RS guide were worse than in the 1979 guide but can't find it?

Yep, CTTE and The Yes Album got five stars in the 1979 (red) edition, and no Yes album was awarded less than three stars. The entry was written by one Charley Walters who praises their “varied virtuosity,” calls CTTE “technically brilliant, many-hued and free…most importantly, it rocks,” and says of GFTO, “No new ground is broken…Nonetheless, it’s a more than adequate display.”

In the 1983 (blue) edition, no Yes record got more than three stars, and Tales, GFTO, Tormato, Drama, and Yesshows all got one star. Wayne King (whom I know little about, other than that he was a Who fanatic) wrote the entry, starting off with “Classical rockers with hearts of cold…” moving on to GFTO being “less an effective reduction of valid ideas than an admission of total artistic bankruptcy,” and ending with, “Who cared if the final product was now a bland assembly-line concoction? Apparently no one.”

So it’s a reversal from the red to blue edition similar to the Doors entries. I dunno how those decisions were made, or by whom (Dave Marsh? John Swenson? Both? Neither?). The only instance I can find of a negative-to-positive reappraisal is the Pere Ubu entries (one star in ‘79, four and five stars in ‘83).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:12 (ten months ago) link

Ah, yeah, thanks. Also found this, which is one I remember reading at the time.

Rating: 2.5 Stars
"Pointlessly intricate guitar and bass solos, caterwauling keyboards, quasi-mystical lyrics proclaimed in alien falsetto, acid-dipped album-cover illustrations: this British group wrote the book on art-rock excess...Close to the Edge has its moments, but most of this hotly anticipated follow-up is a monumental snore, a dubious hot-air suite whipped up around a handful of promising song fragments." (Mark Coleman, 1992 RS Album Guide)

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:45 (ten months ago) link

Are there bass solos on that album? On "Siberian Khatru" maybe...?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:46 (ten months ago) link

Pointlessly intricate guitar and bass solos, caterwauling keyboards, quasi-mystical lyrics proclaimed in alien falsetto, acid-dipped album-cover illustrations

This makes it sound even better than it actually is!

john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Friday, 3 September 2021 12:49 (ten months ago) link

The Wilson remix of relayer is better than the unpleasant rhino remaster but the original late 80s cd is even better (just turn up the volume)

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 3 September 2021 16:41 (ten months ago) link

had a dream the new album came out and I was reading a review that said "Yes have done it again". I'm still chuckling trying to figure out what that meant

frogbs, Saturday, 4 September 2021 04:19 (nine months ago) link

It means "they got everybody yessed out again".

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 4 September 2021 14:52 (nine months ago) link

man the battle section in "Gates of Delirium" is still the craziest fucking thing this band has ever done

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:03 (nine months ago) link

like even Magma doesn't go that hard

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:06 (nine months ago) link

i don't at all want you to stop, but i feel like you're https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=110651#unread -ing yourself

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:25 (nine months ago) link

dude. i can get yessed out totally sober! this is like yessssssed out

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:27 (nine months ago) link

<3

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 03:31 (nine months ago) link

From the time that Steve Howe joined Yes to when Bill Bruford left the band is pretty much a couple of years. Basically a year after Howe joined the band (May 70), Tony Kaye left and Rick Wakeman joined the band (July 71) then after finishing recording 'Close to the Edge' Bruford left (July 72) to join King Crimson.

The Yes Album
Fragile
Close to the Edge

Pretty impressive amount of work done.

earlnash, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 04:25 (nine months ago) link

I would like to formally apologize. upon some reflection I have come to the conclusion that Magma do indeed go that hard. I think what got me is listening to this with the sub on, there are these explosions during that section that rattled the pictures on the walls. I've never actually noticed them before

frogbs, Thursday, 9 September 2021 00:47 (nine months ago) link

One of my favourite bits in the battle sequence is the emotive sequence that occurs at 9.20, and then again at 10.00; it somehow manages to be tender, grandiose and breakneck simultaneously.

Regarding their productivity, they made another three albums of original music between mid-72 and late 74, as well.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 9 September 2021 01:13 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

so I am finally giving Open Your Eyes another listen - it kind of surprises me that this album is universally shit on while Talk is mostly given a pass since they're both quite similar but something about the way the guitars and vocals are produced just irks my brain

it is funny to read some of the reviews complaining about the final track, this kind of "pad out the length of the CD" thing was pretty common in the late 90's, clearly you're not supposed to listen to it every time you play the album. though I suspect most people only listened to it once. I actually dig the surreal vibe, calm nature sounds suddenly punctuated by loud processed vocals, it's like the kind of shit we'd do to pass the time on the N64 when the games had a sound demo mode

by my count this is the 4th Yes album that began life as a different project...does any other band come close?

frogbs, Monday, 8 November 2021 20:56 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

catching the swirling wind the sailor sees the rim of the land
the eagle's dancing wings create as weather spins out of hand
go closer hold the land feel partly no more than grains of sand

yes. . . . YES

mookieproof, Saturday, 4 December 2021 04:43 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

has anyone here given The Quest a shot? I thought "The Ice Bridge" was a neat lead single, but the rest is uh...pretty boring. not as lethargic as Heaven & Earth but not as hooky either.

frogbs, Saturday, 18 December 2021 21:13 (six months ago) link

three months pass...

würm imo

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 April 2022 02:23 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Alan White has passed :(

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/alan-white-yes-and-john-lennon-drummer-dead-at-72/

Maresn3st, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:40 (one month ago) link

Sad to hear this, he seemed to get a lot of criticism for basically not being Bill Bruford but his drumming on Topographic Oceans is one of the best things about that mess. He plays like a demon on Relayer too. RIP!

ARP Odysséas (Matt #2), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:43 (one month ago) link

yeah his work on “sound chaser” is outstanding

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:48 (one month ago) link

The Yessongs versions of the Fragile/Close to the Edge songs have giant clanging balls compared to the studio versions, and it's because of White. And he had three days to learn the set list before the tour started!

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:48 (one month ago) link

alan white does a pretty good job for a guy who had to learn all these crazy difficult songs with limited-to-zero rehearsals

― covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Friday, October 16, 2020 10:31 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

what a guy, rip

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:48 (one month ago) link

sound chaser and especially awaken are two of the great prog songs and he played on both

imago, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:56 (one month ago) link

played the hell out of them too

imago, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:56 (one month ago) link

yeah I mean I love Bruford too but I thought White's less subtle/more powerful approach worked great

frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:59 (one month ago) link

The Yessongs versions of the Fragile/Close to the Edge songs have giant clanging balls compared to the studio versions, and it's because of White.

― but also fuck you (unperson)

wait is this good? i mean, i know having a flaming gong is good, but i'm not sure if giant clanging balls are good or not.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:06 (one month ago) link

Perhaps unperson was thinking of those crashing Chinese cymbals at the beginning of "The Ancient"?

When Bruford departed the group, Yes management gave his royalties from Close to the Edge to White, since Bruford would not be promoting the record. In recent years, White returned Bruford's royalties, which was a generous gesture (since, as people mention above, White had a lot of work to do on the tour).

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:25 (one month ago) link

back when you could actually earn decent money playing progressive rock!

always heard nice things about this guy. even in their later incarnations he seemed to be the one dude who just wanted to play the music.

not even waiting until late night, getting Yessed out right now. Going For The One

frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:59 (one month ago) link

Ramshackled is way way down on my listening list.

If not now, when would I ever listen to this? Can it be worse than Story of I?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 26 May 2022 21:41 (one month ago) link

you can blame it on the butthole surfers to parter And all the sailors who were junkies, all
They all went sailing out to sea
And the white man sold quaaludes to the monkeys
And they all died high up in the trees

And all the teachers who were flunkies, now
They all taught you and me
And the goddamned white men still selling quaaludes to the monkeys
And they're all, you and me, dying high up in the trees https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y__6zG-equE

xzanfar, Thursday, 26 May 2022 22:56 (one month ago) link

back when you could actually earn decent money playing progressive rock!

― frogbs

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 27 May 2022 01:27 (one month ago) link

Yessongs and Relayer are amazing. RIP.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 27 May 2022 03:48 (one month ago) link

okay, Relayer it is. see y'all in space

frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2022 03:57 (one month ago) link

Gates of Delirium just rips my head off every time I hear it. its like the Sistine Chapel of spacey, slightly homoerotic prog music. Alan White...you can hear the joy in the drums. I love this music so much.

frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2022 04:19 (one month ago) link

his playing on Sound Chaser is really great too. so he doesn't do those polyrhythms or subtle jazz tapping that Bruford does. he still just rides on the cymbals and grounds the track from flying off into outer space

frogbs, Friday, 27 May 2022 04:36 (one month ago) link

yeah he does an admirable job of tying that chaos together

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 May 2022 13:52 (one month ago) link

I'm not a drum fill expert, but I think of Bruford as subdividing the individual measures into weird offbeats, and White going over the bar lines and doing longer and more flowing fills.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 27 May 2022 15:02 (one month ago) link

His brother Jack is now full of regret he didn't ask Alan to replace sister Meg.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 27 May 2022 16:27 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

l e a v e. I t

calstars, Sunday, 19 June 2022 02:09 (two weeks ago) link

^

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 02:04 (one week ago) link

you took a break from smoking and suddenly the only Yes record you like is 90125

frogbs, Friday, 24 June 2022 03:59 (one week ago) link

Uh no

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 04:43 (one week ago) link

I wish leave it was constructed a little better. Damn a capella

calstars, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:34 (one week ago) link

That’s the best part

frogbs, Saturday, 25 June 2022 00:18 (one week ago) link

When I bought Ultimate Yes (a 3xCD comp) I got a little guilty that “Leave It” was my favorite track

frogbs, Saturday, 25 June 2022 01:27 (one week ago) link

That’s the best part

What

calstars, Saturday, 25 June 2022 02:00 (one week ago) link

Acapella bit on “Hold On” is my fave on that album

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 25 June 2022 06:20 (one week ago) link

"Fly From Here : Return Trip" sounding so good on a Summer evening.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:01 (four days ago) link


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