Anyways, I love both, but would of course pick Genesis, simply because they had more musicianship on the compositional level and better melodies. Plus they would never do instrument wanking, like the guys in Yes did from time to time.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh poppycock. Chris Squire's bass playing alone leaves Genesis a light year behind them, squirming in their own tepid filth.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:26 (nineteen years ago) link
When was the last time you listened to Abacab?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― J (Jay), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Having said that, after Peter Gabriel and Steve Hackett left, Genesis produced, almost exclusively, music I don't even want to think about (some of "Duke" excepted), whereas I couldn't say that Yes had a period where they did nothing at all but stink.
― Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Fair enough, Geir, you're right....they're not, but your initial statement (Plus they would never do instrument wanking,) still makes it sound like Genesis were the Ramones.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― art of the hunger, Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Those were pure pop rather than prog, but at long as it is good, then there is nothing wrong with that.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link
And Patrick Moraz is flipping great on Relayer.
Mind, from 1980 onwards, I would prefer to cut off my fingers with a rusty tin opener than listen to either of them.
― Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Spot the odd one out: "Yours is no disgrace", "Starship Trooper", "And You and I", "Perpetual Change", "Roundabout", "Close to the Edge", "Siberian Khatru".... "Machine Messiah"
― Snnap Dragon (snnap dragon), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link
invisible touchwe can't dancecalling all stations
(abacab and s/t are only partially shitty)
shitty yes albums:
time and a wordtormatobig generatorunionopen your eyestalk(OMG IT DOESN"T STOP YET)the laddermagnificationplus a whole bunch of shitty live stuff.
genesis wins. Anyway, genesis with gabriel was always interesting and fun. i love yes at their best, but god can they be bad. also, I can see myself living next door to someone like tony banks and liking him. I can't say the same about anyone from yes.
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:37 (nineteen years ago) link
"Cinema/Leave It""Holding On""Homeworld""New Languages""Changes""Real Love""To Be Alive""Hearts""Without Hope You Cannot Start the Day""It Can Happen"
― art of the hunger, Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― phil banks, Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh hells yeah!
DRAMA by Yes: Lost Classic or Justified Dud?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― thread searcher, Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 20 November 2004 06:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickn (nickn), Saturday, 20 November 2004 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― another wagoneer, Saturday, 20 November 2004 06:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Saturday, 20 November 2004 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Saturday, 20 November 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link
But Yes did more good stuff on balance, I'd say. "America," a couple-three things from those first two albums, "Starship Troopers," "Yours Is No Disgrace" and "Your Move"/"All Good People" from "Yes Album." "Roundabout" and Heart of the Sunrise" from "Fragile." "Sibertian Khatru" from "Close to the Edge." "Owner of a Lonely Heart." That'd make a decent one-disc best-of padded out with some stuff from that first 3-disc live album, which has its moments for sure. So, more good songs Yes, more actual "content" and "fairly coherent worldview" and "edge" Genesis.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 20 November 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 20 November 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Saturday, 20 November 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 20 November 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 20 November 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 20 November 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link
(x-post, yeah, that's a big part of why I like them.)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 20 November 2004 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Flash2Time, Saturday, 20 November 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link
It wasn't until Phil Collins was allowed to become the main songwriter that they lost it.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
As for the question, I'd go with Yes, which surprises me, since in my mind Yes are the slightly colder/more rarefied band emotionally, and given a choice, I generally go for the warmer/more melancholy/twee.
But it's a tough call, given many of the songs already cited, and I really don't like either band much after approx. 1980.
― David A. (Davant), Sunday, 21 November 2004 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link