Let’s get started right away in this new year!
Once again, we set ourselves the impossible task of keeping track of all the good pop and dance music to come out of all of (sub-Saharan) Africa.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link
For reference:
Last year’s thread: rolling afropop / afrobeats 2018
Some related artist-specific threads that are currently active:
Wizkid (aka Starboy)
Burna Boy – OUTSIDE (2018)
Sun-El Musician - Africa to the World - also for Simmy (do check out her album!)
Aya Nakamura, Naza and the new french urban scene - for that Eurafrican vibe
(...and check out our f/k/a-World-Music colleagues at Rolling Global Outernational Non-West Non-English (Some Exceptions) 2019 Thread Once Known as World Music)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
Yes, there is a Spotify playlist that will be very regularly updated:
ILM rolling Afropop / Afrobeats / Afrodance 2019
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link
NAIJA:
Something old - here’s to, hopefully, another Year of Wizkid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCVOi03QZXM
DJ Tunez ft. Reekado Banks & Wizkid • Turn Up
Something new - because 2018 was also the Year of Burna:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0l_BY6axlE
Burna Boy x Zlatan • Killin’ Dem
(Burna put this up on SoundCloud as a freebie for his fans ahead of his big Xmas concert in Lagos. Not clear if there will be an official release)
Zlatan (Ibile), who’s on that Burna track, is hot and happening right now. His current dance smash, “Zanku (LegWork)”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpQF7GbC5wg(no official video, but there’s plenty of dance tutorials and stuff for/with it)He’s on this big pop hit too:Chinko Ekun ft. Lil Kesh & Zlatan • Able God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvSyIqZSzHwAnd also on this afroblisstastic track, produced by Young John, who’s back after a bit of a hiatus:Prodit ft. Zlatan • Rora: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpNJ1OzV7Zg
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link
Two dance tracks from Ghana:Eddie Khae ft. Medikal & RmvMnt • Speak In Tongues (SIT): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhJIg261AFY(Eddie Khae had a hit last year with “Do The Dance”)Patapaa ft. Article Wan • One Leg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxIdi9IzQnQ(Patapaa was featured on last year’s “Akwaaba” and is the man behind 2017’s the riotous “One Corner”, a true phenomenon, and one of the biggest tracks never to have been posted on this thread)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link
Tanzania:Rayvanny ft. Diamond Platnumz • Mwanza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8eUTOYrkDMA pleasure, as always.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:49 (five years ago) link
And three from South Africa:I like this: Pap’zo ft. Nuna • Teka (Afro House Mix): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW3dkgV_WB0Big in SA: Manqonqo ft. Dason & Saviour Gee • Eyadini: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wc3hf7ZmrkBig across the continent: King Monada • Malwedhe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hoUCH0BOq4
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
*mandatory check in*
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 3 January 2019 10:07 (five years ago) link
I took the liberty of starting the new thread right away - hope you don’t mind!
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:04 (five years ago) link
Not at all! Good work!
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:36 (five years ago) link
Noted on the obituary thread that I had no idea Geoffrey Oryema died in I think June 2018.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 January 2019 12:38 (five years ago) link
Duly noted, and RIP. Probably more relevant to the Global Outernational thread linked above.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:27 (five years ago) link
that Killin' Dem track is fantastic
― rob, Thursday, 3 January 2019 16:18 (five years ago) link
Expecting nothing but great things this year. Teni has released a slow soulful song, if you listen intently to her voice you can almost understand Yoruba.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVQbyIEK_jQ
Less meditative, Patoranking - Everyday has some energy and clear Sauti-Sol-vibeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HabnZEf4DFY
A big song that wasn't posted last year: Naaa Mean (Nadia Nakai and Cassper Nyovest). Completely obnoxious and completely addictive.
― Nabozo, Friday, 4 January 2019 11:18 (five years ago) link
Teni has released a slow soulful song, if you listen intently to her voice you can almost understand Yoruba.
Actually funny you say that cause this is one of the few Yoruba songs I have trouble immediately understanding.
Always forget how many dialects there are and how subtle differences throw you off if you're not hearing/speaking daily.
― tsrobodo, Friday, 4 January 2019 21:06 (five years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 5 January 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link
https://uproxx.com/selection/ph-city-vibration/
Marko Orlic votes for a Burna Boy track in the Uproxx poll
― curmudgeon, Friday, 11 January 2019 05:43 (five years ago) link
xpsThe new Lil Kesh is another reminder that yes, there are language barriers and sometimes a lot goes over (many/most of) our heads because of it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22BRl_SqXroLil Kesh feat. Olamide • Logo BenzIt’s controversial, to say the least: https://filterfree.ng/features/logo-benz-nigeria-needs-more-artists-to-tell-her-diverse-stories/Outrage or not, my favourite moment is when the beat drops out just as Kesh starts delving “pata pat-pata” into the chorus and his voice sounds just like percussion.(That elastic beat is courtesy of Rexxie btw, who also did “Zanku (LegWork)” and “Able God” posted above.)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 January 2019 07:48 (five years ago) link
On a much more innocent tip, from Cameroon: I love this track from Tata’s No Holidays EP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThlCVcsj2qETata feat. Reniss • Ambiance
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 January 2019 07:50 (five years ago) link
the link to that Logo Benz article is dead and afaict there's no article on that site about it--what's the controversy?
― rob, Friday, 11 January 2019 16:42 (five years ago) link
Here's a link to another article about it:https://punchng.com/olamide-continues-romance-with-controversies-on-logo-benz/
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 11 January 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link
lol I'm afraid this remains more or less over my head, but thank you
― rob, Friday, 11 January 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
Yeah, Nigerian controversies seem to follow their own set of rules, lol.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
Basically witchcraft or juju in this case "blood money" operates at such an elevated level of taboo in Nigeria that its unwise to satirise it in ways that aren't immediately obvious.
― tsrobodo, Monday, 14 January 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link
That was the impression I got too: it hit a raw nerve.This article looks at it from the satire angle as well. It zooms in on the moral outrage and is firmly in the condemnation camp:https://www.pulse.ng/entertainment/music/olamide-lil-kesh-slammed-over-logo-benz/qjdf0x1The “could the song have been satire?” section starts somewhere halfway. Olamide’s defense, however, (it’s at the end) is more or less “we’re just reporting from the ground”. The FilterFree article I posted above took a similar stance. As the lede said: “Nigeria needs more artists to tell her diverse stories”. I wonder if that level-headed approach (at least, that’s how it appears to me from here) is the reason it was removed from the site?
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 09:09 (five years ago) link
That a couple of songs "probably created the infamy of entitlement toward a woman’s body which our society now suffers from in rape and sexual harassment" seems like a bold statement. But then what do I know.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 11:21 (five years ago) link
I'm guessing the whole pop artist as cultural anti-hero thing never really caught on in Nigeria. Iirc this was something we discussed in relation to Fela a while back.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 11:32 (five years ago) link
Yes, even though this seems to be a bigger transgression than most, what strikes me every time there is a similar controversy (mostly around internet fraud or drugs or other “vices”) is the uneasy relationship the music press seems to have with “street music” (and I guess street culture in general).That same FilterFree website now features a long-winded article (possibly by the same writer who wrote the removed piece) about the Zanku dance craze. Informative and quite sympathetic, but also very much from the vantage point of an outsider looking in, making it kind of awkward:https://filterfree.ng/features/zanku-origins-and-its-relationship-with-other-things/
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 12:08 (five years ago) link
On that note, Zlatan’s “Zanku (LegWork)” now does have a fun official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tupb4xV-15wAnd, since the phrase “ijo ope” was mentioned in that piece:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oCA4fQNA2kRahman Jago ft Zlatan, Chinko Ekun & Junior Boy • Ijo Ope(So many great bangers in this vein. It’s the continuation of shaku shaku that’s NOT taking its cues from gqom.)
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 12:16 (five years ago) link
Sometimes it's also the problem of the privileged class taking the traditional sphere as artistic subject, with the usual risk of caricature, projections, unwelcome commentary etc. I'm just talking in general here, I haven't followed the controversy.
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 12:19 (five years ago) link
I'm just reminded of the controversy around the film Inxeba (which I haven't seen; translated as The Wound, 2017), that deals with Xhosa rites of passage, homosexuality etc. It struck a nerve too.
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 12:21 (five years ago) link
I'm guessing the whole pop artist as cultural anti-hero thing never really caught on in Nigeria.No “Popcaan”s, “Masicka”s or “Bounty Killer”s in Naija music, as far as I can tell, no.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 12:29 (five years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 12:56 (five years ago) link
Maybe I'm about to embarrass myself here, but I cannot figure out why you included Popcaan in that list.
― rob, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link
Just that in dancehall (not just there obviously) the stage names of artists quite often refer to crime and violence.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link
I got that, I just wasn’t aware Popcaan refers to those things
― rob, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link
Like does it mean something other than popcorn?
― rob, Tuesday, 15 January 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link
Oh dear... I just always assumed it was patois for (a) “pop gun”, so I guess you’re not the one embarrassing yourself here! I did just now find this on Urban Dictionary (I know) though: Popcaan is the Jamaican Patois spelling for the English word Popcorn. Popcaan means that you pop a corn caan, in other words Popcaan really means you pop or fire gunshots or bullets. A Caan is the Jamaican Patois word for corn, caan another word for bullet or shots.“I use my brand new gun to popcaan or fire bullets when i am in danger.”https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PopcaanSo maybe we can split the difference (please)?
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link
Ha that’s interesting! Popcorn is definitely a weird nickname so I could see that definition being true
― rob, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 02:42 (five years ago) link
Okay, people. So which songs have you been voting for this time around? I'll enter my ballot soon but thought I'd probe for some minimal consensus first.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 10:39 (five years ago) link
I will probably compile my ballot at the very last minute (Friday night), like always. Sure shots are “Soco”, “Fake Love”, “Akwaaba”, “Banomoya” (and “Club Controller” too, probably), “Logba Logba”, and either “Gbona” or “On The Low”, or maybe both.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 11:04 (five years ago) link
No Ye?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 11:08 (five years ago) link
I was asking myself that very same question. Still haven’t made my mind up about “Ye” - I think I prefer the other two, but...
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 11:15 (five years ago) link
(and thanks for reminding me of Ne-Yo. Queuing up “Miss Independent” now!)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 11:19 (five years ago) link
"ubala" and "on the low" are definitely on my ballot as well as the sun-el musician, mlindo, and busiswa albums
― ufo, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 11:19 (five years ago) link
Not the Simmy album? Will probably my number one.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 11:32 (five years ago) link
it's definitely in contention but i'm not sure if it'll make my ballot, this year's been too good
― ufo, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 11:37 (five years ago) link
I think I entered something like 8 African pop songs. I also left out Ye. Two each for Wizzie, Burna and Kaybee, one each for Nini and Teni. Also two danceall songs, including a late exchange of Juggernaut for Stay So. I was surprised that no one nominated Black Hypocrisy.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link
I should have nominated the whole Spice album/mixtape. Def one of the stronger releases of 2019.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link
I had Outside so high on my albums ballot, I decided to just vote for Gbona. Narrowing down the Wizkid noms was extremely hard--so much so that I voted for Fever, Fake Love, Kana, and Soco. Plus Macala, Drogba, and Akwaaba.
― rob, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link
Narrowing down the Wizkid noms was extremely hard...and “Commando”, “Master Groove”, “Lagos Vibes” (and “Immediately”, and, and...) weren’t even nominated. (Also, I ultimately decided against nomming “Manya” again - I was the only voter for it last year. It was probably to fresh then (late-Nov release), and now it also misses the 2018 EOY. Shame really, because it’s the song that heralded Wizzy’s Golden Year)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link
Listening to ILX Listen: 2019respect to your own playlist; will be adding music on here into the big ol' everything in the hopper one as well
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
Ghanian Hausa rapper Kiryani Ayat (f/k/a “AYAT”) is on a track-dropping spree right now. I looove “Memuna”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6ouZ2yh7wgThat’s just the audio - hope there will be a video for it, and that it will be as stunning as the one he did last year for “Guda”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMVa8BS_SrQ
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 21:50 (five years ago) link
Sorry, his name is Kirani Ayat, not Kiryani.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 21:51 (five years ago) link
At once very 80s housey and very recognisably 2018-19 SA clubby, I love it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ge_zyYIn6UKwiish SA ft. C’Buda, Macfowlen & Vukani • Iskhathi(This is the vocal mix, the instrumental ‘Main’ mix seems unexplicably to be more popular in South Africa)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 19 January 2019 23:22 (five years ago) link
A great song from a year ago I had completely forgotten about:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zivT9GVayPcZirra ft. Koker • AgbadaThe kind of track that doesn’t fit in current trends, even though Zirra’s singing style is unthinkable without Wizkid’s example. (Is that guitar riff a “Going Back To My Roots” sample?)
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4_xrzuPgDUDanish remix (by Nandu) of a South Sudanese song (by Nyaruach) on the inevitable MIDH afro-house label. One day I'll just check all their catalogue.
― Nabozo, Sunday, 20 January 2019 13:56 (five years ago) link
Was just looking at the Shazam charts for Atlanta and fall by davido is currently at number 2?
― just sayin, Monday, 21 January 2019 08:08 (five years ago) link
Very interesting. More here:https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/davido-fall-us-radio-shazam-780079/
― breastcrawl, Monday, 21 January 2019 09:33 (five years ago) link
Seems consistent with someone (here? I forgot) mentioning hearing Davido blaring from cars in New York all the time these days.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 21 January 2019 09:38 (five years ago) link
After a disappointing 2018, “Cette Année” things might be looking up for Serge Beynaud:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TObwKz8RjvM(I am a bit shocked by the fact that he seems to have lost his dance crew though)
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link
The new Vanessa Mdee is interesting in that it’s the first time Distruction Boyz venture across the border (apart from a Mr Eazi remix) and also the first time they’re doing a pop production:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI3SlwH_dXcVanessa Mdee ft. Distruction Boyz, DJ Tira & Prince Bulo • That’s For Me
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
Naija Dance Special, Vol. 1“Change your style, another style”: Things are moving really fast - DMW and Davido have traded in the FreshVDM sound for that brand new Rexxie + Zlatan thing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBs9vrPS9ocDMW feat. Davido & Zlatan • Bum BumI like Rexxie (and hey, there’s Zlatan again) better on stuff like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2jLq7aKxqkAkintunde feat. Zlatan • CapableI can see this sound burning out real fast with all the exposure it’s getting. Better enjoy it while it lasts!The wonderful thing is that there are all kinds of crazy dance tunes coming out of Naija right now. Check this one with an almost Ghanian feel (compare it with Eddie Khae’s “Speak In Tongues” upthread, for instance).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h_B8liZdEQDJ Wizziano ft. BaseOne, Mr. Real & CeeBoi • MalokakoI love that skittery hi-hat or whatever it is, and what’s that brass thing doing there?
― breastcrawl, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:05 (five years ago) link
Those Rexxie tracks sound to me a lot like the circa 2012 "afrobeats" that kicked off ilm's interest in this stuff: Lapaz Toyota, Skelewu, etc. Things got so lush last summer, I'm not surprised if there's a swerve back toward these lower-fi, dancier sounds
― rob, Saturday, 26 January 2019 19:23 (five years ago) link
61: Wizkid (Starboy) – “Soco” – 180 points – 6 votes – 1 first place vote in ILX 2018 top 77 tracks vote
― curmudgeon, Monday, 28 January 2019 20:44 (five years ago) link
Cause for celebration, for sure. But still: Too fucking low!
― breastcrawl, Monday, 28 January 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMuFO9nhtfA
this is from last year but just discovered it and i love it, chill nigerian rap
― ufo, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
Yeah, nice one, and alté at that!(for searching purposes, that’s “Rapid Fire” by Santi ft. Shane Eagle & Amaarae)I like this Ghanaian rap track, “Pawa” by Worlasi:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIeRrgRSr_E
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link
Naija Love & Blessings Special:• Teni is going from strength to strength. Here she is helping out Boj on “Obe”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao5yjF_qZoQ• Adekunle Gold and Simi celebrating their marriage on “Promise”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXZBrx_H-yA• Simi solo, produced by Legendury Beatz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3dymeqbtOU• Tekno low-key celebrating gender equality on “Woman”. It’s a good look for him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obadozWVeCo
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:28 (five years ago) link
ok I think that's the first Teni song I've really liked, was really wondering what I was missing with her
― rob, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:46 (five years ago) link
(btw, the title of the Simi is “Ayo”)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:23 (five years ago) link
BREAKING NEWS:The Sun-El Musician - Africa to the World thread has been repurposed. From now on, and with immediate effect, it will be known as THE HOUSE OF SUN-EL: Sun-El Musician, Simmy, Mlindo The Vocalist, and other related artists, I repeat: “THE HOUSE OF SUN-EL: Sun-El Musician, Simmy, Mlindo The Vocalist, and other related artists”. And if you don’t know, now you know.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 31 January 2019 13:33 (five years ago) link
Nice.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link
Interesting P Sherburne piece on "Township Funk": https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-strange-story-of-township-funk-the-unlikely-hit-that-helped-south-african-dance-music-go-global/.
I had no idea about Dissensus's role in its popularity, that is wild
― rob, Thursday, 31 January 2019 15:03 (five years ago) link
This was playing in a sneakers shop here in Oslo today:
https://youtu.be/K3zRmjY6Vcg
It’s nothing special but I was delighted to hear the Spellz drop while I was trying on shoes.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link
Ha, did you get bored during the rollout too, longneck?Narrator: longneck posted Bils ft. Kida Kudz & WavyTheCreator • DND
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:17 (five years ago) link
Lol, yeah. I’m afraid the best part of the poll is over now.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
lol hence my reviving the soca thread yesterday
― rob, Thursday, 31 January 2019 21:27 (five years ago) link
Mayorkun’s voice and the Killertunes sound gel really well, so this is fun:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djHBEqabUhEBusta Pop ft. Mayorkun • Masha Kilo
― breastcrawl, Monday, 4 February 2019 08:34 (five years ago) link
Naija Dance Special (Interlude)Fuji gqom anyone?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsvAJ69YNvAQdot • GbeseDamn, this is a GREAT video. I remember “complaining” a year ago that Naija shaku shaku dancing was kids play compared to what the Angola kuduro crews were doing, but they’re catching up!
― breastcrawl, Monday, 4 February 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link
Gqom fuji would be more apt, I guess. Anyway, great track, and once again, GREAT video.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 4 February 2019 23:03 (five years ago) link
Mayorkun - Sope (from his nov. 2018 album)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwIdk6EWbEg
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 11:17 (five years ago) link
only just started delving into Kenya's Muthoni Drummer Queen album but it's terrific so far
https://youtu.be/KpgCf5ZlDqk
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 11:33 (five years ago) link
I’m going to personally will Serge Beynaud into a great 2019. His new one (so quickly!) is a lot more fleshed out than mission statement “Cette année”. Most importantly, the dancers are back!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv7zREjc9f0Serge Beynaud • Kota na Koto
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:32 (five years ago) link
Any thoughts on this Okayafrica piece?
Call Us By Our Name: Stop Using 'Afrobeats'
It does seem to me to be a very reductive name, but at least it's better than "world music."
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:06 (five years ago) link
"kota na koto" rules so much, glad serge is as great as ever
that piece is interesting and pretty agreeable. it would also make it easier to talk about and dig further into african pop in general beyond my current dabbling if i knew what all the various genres and regional scenes were actually called, hopefully i'll get there eventually
― ufo, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:46 (five years ago) link
A much simpler and respectful solution, is to refer to what is currently known as Afrobeats as pop music from a specific country (i.e. Ghanaian Pop Music) and to other established musical styles by their local names—"highlife," "fuji," "gqom," "bongo flava" and so forth, equipping new listeners with the right vocabulary to experience the varying cultures.
This seems pretty inarguable; the comparison to k-pop/j-pop/c-pop is also a good point. We talked at one point last year about separate threads for different scenes/countries but the feeling was that ilm couldn't sustain it. Idk, maybe we should have done it anyway?
― rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link
I guess it's really down to context isn't it? I mean, I have trouble explaining to most people what I mean when I say I like 'afrobeats' or 'afro-pop', so trying to describe it in terms of 'Gqom' and 'Shangaan' etc (not to mention my own dilletantism when it comes to the various countries and genres) can be a bit dizzying. Of course in the context of journalism and online discourse, yes be as accurate as possible.
A general afrobeats thread is suitable for ILM and it's great we've seen spinoff threads for Sun El Musician and Burna Boy etc etc
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link
Yeah I retract my thread question--generally everyone is good about identifying which country tracks are from. And I was going to mention I don't know what "bongo flava" is so I'm not sure how reasonable "call it what it is" is in practice. On the other hand I usually tell irl people I like "Nigerian (pop) music" rather than "afrobeats," which tbh doesn't have a lot of currency in north america afaict but obvs may be different in UK
― rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:36 (five years ago) link
I live in fear of needing to pronounce gqom in real life
― rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:37 (five years ago) link
oh gqod yeah
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link
I though 'afrobeats' was a fine name when it was specifically referring to pop music from Ghana and Nigeria that was being played at parties with West African immigrants in London. But it quickly became meaningless, and even more so once everything from Serge Beynaud to Sauti Sol and Sun-El Musician was included.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:41 (five years ago) link
That's true, and in that case the connection to Afrobeat was an intentional if ultimately wrong-headed nod to afrobeats being West African
― rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link
Of course they (=OkayAfrica) are absolutely right. Afrobeats has always been an extremely clunky name. Afropop is more neutral at least, even if it’s even more of a catch-all term really. I understand it to mean “African pop music in all its many forms and manifestations”, not as a single type of music. Having said all that, I’m continuously in two minds about this when it comes to ILM. As I wrote just last week on the repurposed Sun-El thread: “In a perfect ILM world we would have separate Rolling South African, Rolling Nigerian, Rolling Ghanaian, Rolling East African, etc etc threads, but with the current level of participation/enthusiasm being what it is, one catch-all Rolling Afropop thread is enough imho.” My fear is that the low-level focus there currently is will dwindle into insignifance, with two or three people frequenting the Ghanian thread, one person occasionally posting Tanzanian stuff [there’s your bongo flava, rob] elsewhere, etcetera. But maybe I’m just (self) concern trolling here. For all I know, it could actually ground and nurture posters who like to focus on one particular sound or region.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:04 (five years ago) link
Country vs genre is another interesting issue.I would prefer a Naija Pop thread to separate threads for fuji, highlife, etc (unless of course we’re down for some real hardcore specialisation) because all these genres coexist and mix and mingle so much within Naija’s ever fluctuating music machine. South Africa feels different (to me anyway). It will be interesting to see what the repurposed Sun-El thread will become: will it remain a thread for the extended Sun-El family, smooth Afro(!)house plus smooth SA r&b (which is a misnomer, but I’m not familiar with the SA genrefication) of the likes of Mlindo (Sjava has already shown up)? But how about gqom? Where will I post the next banger? And how about SA rap? I’m still leaning towards the Rolling thread, but it’s becoming more and more arbitrary.(I wrote this after rob’s first post, some of you may have addressed some of these points already)
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:06 (five years ago) link
Country vs genre is another interesting issue.I would prefer a Naija Pop thread to separate threads for fuji, highlife, etc (unless of course we’re down for some real hardcore specialisation) because all these genres coexist and mix and mingle so much within Naija’s ever fluctuating music machine. South Africa feels different (to me anyway). It will be interesting to see what the repurposed Sun-El thread will become: will it remain a thread for the extended Sun-El family, smooth Afro(!)house plus smooth SA r&b (which is a misnomer, but I’m not familiar with the SA genrefication) of the likes of Mlindo (Sjava has already shown up)? But how about gqom? Where will I post the next banger? And how about SA rap? I’m still leaning towards the Rolling thread, but it’s becoming more and more arbitrary.(I wrote this after rob’s first post. Some of you may have addressed some of these points already)
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:07 (five years ago) link
Sorry for double posting!
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:09 (five years ago) link
Gqom and other SA house are starting to blend a bit too - Club Controller seems like a good fusion
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:09 (five years ago) link
Re: thread splitting, I immediately changed my mind and dog latin is otm with: "A general afrobeats thread is suitable for ILM and it's great we've seen spinoff threads for Sun El Musician and Burna Boy etc etc".
separate genre threads would be madness, though iirc there actually is a highlife thread
― rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link
If you're curious: Tell me stuff about highlife music
I wouldn’t say so. While it’s true that some old-school kwaito/house producers and artists are incorporating gqom in their sound, there is a world of difference between the (mainstream) gqom of “Banomoya” and for instance the recent Busiswa album, and the Sun-El sound of “Akanamali” and everything Simmy.And then we haven’t even mentioned people like DJ Sumbody and your beloved Master KG who are doing something else altogether, somewhere halfway the smooth <> hard-hitting spectrum.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:19 (five years ago) link
xps to dog latin
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:20 (five years ago) link
well yeah, can't argue with that - there's definitely a spectrum of sounds
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:28 (five years ago) link
The thing with highlife: there’s “classic” “old school” highlife - that’s what that thread is about, I think, and there’s highlife as it is understood within current West African pop music (which is what OkayAfrica was referring to). In Nigeria, Kiss Daniel brought highlife back to the pop frontline with “Woju” and “Laye”(not that it’s ever not been a presence), and I guess Teni would be highlife as well. In Ghana, Bisa Kdei is modern highlife, but Kidi and Kuami Eugene are pop highlife as well (and then if course there’s hiplife). Same thing with fuji in Nigeria. There’s classic fuji for the older generation, but it’s also changing and adapting with the times (a lof of “street music” is in fact just that afaiui). I posted a gqom-informed take on fuji just yesterday. Do treat yourself to Qdot’s “Gbese”!
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:33 (five years ago) link
A general problem for me with all of this music is that I'm reasonably informed about 60s/70s (esp. the latter) African music--not every country of course--but I really don't know what was going on in the 90s and 00s. So while I noticed you calling that song fuji, the lineage is pretty hard for me to discern. (I'm also not trained in music, so if the connections are more abstract things like rhythm patterns I'll probably miss that too.)
Like I think I have a decent sense of what 70s highlife is and could identify previously unheard tracks as highlife, but it wouldn't have occurred to me to call Kiss Daniel highlife as much as I recognized what he was doing sounds older/classic-al compared to say D'Banj or Wizkid
― rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:41 (five years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:44 (five years ago) link
Me: - less than reasonably informed about pre 2010s African musics- no musical training to speak ofMake of that what you will...
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 23:53 (five years ago) link
Oh, and of course Flavour has been a mainstay of contemporary Nigerian highlife for a decade or more.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:00 (five years ago) link
I want to make a drum sound out of that YouTube video.
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:04 (five years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:13 (five years ago) link
There was an Afropop Worldwide show about gqom a while ago, and after listening to that, and hearing it said about a dozen times including by the American producer, I think I could have given it a shot but my confidence has waned since.
breastcrawl, have you done any exploring of the past since getting into the contemporary stuff? I'm listening to Franco (who's Congolese) right now and I'm sure you'd love it
― rob, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:36 (five years ago) link
makes me curious as to where people itt are actually based, as I have mostly no idea. think I've mentioned it lots of times on ILM but I'm Bristol, UK
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:40 (five years ago) link
Montreal, which I also assume everyone knows but I'm probably overestimating my memorability
― rob, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 00:41 (five years ago) link
I’m Dutch, from Amsterdam. Sorry I had to close shop. It was getting way past my bedtime and I had to work in the morning (i.e. now). rob, I do listen to older African stuff on occasion, but not in any systematic way (like I feel sometimes I should, in order to get more historical background). Just like with the singles vs albums issue, it’s a matter of priorities and time management, and I don’t even have enough time to enjoy and keep up with all the good new stuff that’s coming out.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 09:00 (five years ago) link
And yeah, (classic) soukous is one of the genres I would love to explore more.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 09:02 (five years ago) link
So many jams, so little time...
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 09:04 (five years ago) link
fwiw Franco one of my fav artists of any country, any genre
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
^
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 February 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link
I forgot to mention another important player in contemporay Nigerian highlife: Adekunle Gold (see above).A current highlife-inflected fav:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDabcMUdq5QPatapaa ft. Article Wan • Enemiesoh, and while we’re in Ghana: Koo Ntakra, “Bam”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b4ny4r4TEo(for that Akwaaba-ey vibe)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 7 February 2019 08:26 (five years ago) link
Reposting the links to the tracks posted just ahead of that long convo we had the other day. Wouldn’t want them to get snowed under!Busta Pop ft. Mayorkun • Masha KiloQdot • GbeseMayorkun • SopeMuthoni Drummer Queen • Suzie NomaSerge Beynaud • Kota na Koto
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 7 February 2019 08:43 (five years ago) link
New Niniola. Producer Sarz gets the co-credit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ku_TK7tsEs“Designer”
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link
I posted the new Prince Kaybee on the Sun-El thread, because it fits there. But if you crave that Club Controller/Banomoya sound (albeit slightly smoothed out) look no further than NaakMusiQ’s new one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbJTWoiYwIMNaakMusiQ ft. Bluelle • Ndakwenza Ntoni
― breastcrawl, Friday, 8 February 2019 06:36 (five years ago) link
Sarkodie is Ghana’s biggest rapper, but I find his singles very hit or miss these days. This new one is banging though, thanks in no small part to Akan, Ghana’s best new rapper:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_afZNYVGWUSarkodie ft. Akan • All Die Be Die(Akan’s Onipa Akoma album, released in 2017, is extremely good btw. It was #4 on my 2018 ballot, although I somehow never stanned for it.)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 8 February 2019 08:50 (five years ago) link
The okayafrica debate seems to anticipate on an in-force US market entry, where commodification and simplistic labels might be a nascent risk. But so far, what I observe is that fans are, besides Africans themselves, people who have a direct connection or interest in the continent, and few others. For all of those, a catch-up term seems inevitable, given how the current pop culture has shot up and found obvious common points from Ghana to Tanzania, and from Ivory Coast to Cameroon and Congo, when it's obvious that everyone's paying attention to the success of a few stars. The pop scene presents itself as pan-African (with individualities), or as individualities with a pan-african inspiration. It's everyone's individual responsibility to engage intelligently and perceive the dynamics rather than a monolith. I understand the basic lack of trust in Americans and Europeans ("c'est de bonne guerre" as we say: all's fair in love and war) but I'm very resistant to another semantics war. Afro-pop is my preferred catch-all term, which I slightly prefer to descriptive terms like "pop from Ghana", just as I use, say mpb as a short-term for all Brazilian pop whether the influence is Samba, Bossa, Tropicalia, Vanguardia P., or genres from the North / regional traditions whose applications I don't master anyway. You can call something pop while recognizing specific influences without having to name them, so I don't insist on calling something Bongo Flava just because it's Tanzanian if: 1. it sounds pop to me 2. I don't actually know what Bongo Flava is and how to recognize it. I don't know, I try to keep it flexible.I'm Swiss btw.
― Nabozo, Friday, 8 February 2019 09:17 (five years ago) link
I'm finally listening to the Bucie album from december and it's... really good? The sun's out today and it all just sounds gorgeous.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 8 February 2019 11:16 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjk0nHlT49A
Linex Sunday - Too Late ft Lady Jaydee
speaking of Bongo Flava I've been listening to this one a lot in the last week. Lady Jaydee's vocals are very sweet, feels summer-y.
You can call something pop while recognizing specific influences without having to name them, so I don't insist on calling something Bongo Flava just because it's Tanzanian if: 1. it sounds pop to me 2. I don't actually know what Bongo Flava is and how to recognize it. I don't know, I try to keep it flexible.I'm Swiss btw.
― Nabozo, Friday, February 8, 2019 4:17 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I agree with this. I normally call all african music from the 70/80s and onward Afropop when i'm talking about it. Unless i'm having a genre specific convo. I would prefer to just call it pop really though if i had a choice. I dunno if k-pop or j-pop fans feel the same, but (and maybe its too utopian) its all just pop music written for broad audiences and why can't we just ignore where its from. Maybe the location specific markers won't matter as much in time, but i get them from a marketing perspective, and I get that the language barrier means something to some people as well.
I'm from Canada, but lived in Kenya for a time, my mom grew up on a farm outside Nairobi but her parents were decedents of the British 1820 settlers in SA so the majority of my extended family is still in SA.
Should we start a pre-2010s Afropop thread? I won't claim to be an expert in any way. But it would be awesome to post what we know/can find and go from there.
a thread for everything that came out before this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N70tdfvuaOs
― Will (kruezer2), Friday, 8 February 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
The afrofunk-ish beat on that Sarkodie/Akan track is awesome.
― rob, Sunday, 10 February 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:52 (five years ago) link
To come back to rapper Cassper Nyovest, who’s mentioned in that OkayAfrica piece: Sure, he’s “hip-hop”, not “afrobeats”, but he’s also an artist working within the South African and wider African pop context. Last year alone he did a single with Davido, and scored hits with DJ Sumbody and old school vocal duo Shwi Nomtekhala. I mean, good luck trying to sell this as “hip-hop” in the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kej8eH6CNK8Cassper Nyovest ft. DJ Sumbody • Remote Control(or try “Tseya Ukwe”, the other Sumbody jam on his recent album)To further confuse matters: South Africans are now doing *afrobeats*?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOJ31xKTH1sDJ PH ft. Rouge & ManuWorldstar • Go Down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-19tB50H7YMDJ Yanga ft. MarazA & MJ Washington • Dancia DanciaAnother interesting sound from SA, gqom-related but very much it’s own thing. I think it’s awesome:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grlp2OGeQIcShado M • Inhliziyo Yami Ithi Hey(I’m still trying to parse that video)
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 10 February 2019 22:11 (five years ago) link
Still in South Africa...This is fantastic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-IWRr6ohzwTNS ft. iNdlovukazi • My Dali
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 22:20 (five years ago) link
Apparently there’s som beef between Prince Kaybee and TNS at the moment. TNS accused Kaybee of exploiting him economically. Then Kaybee literally posted the receipts on his FB page. Looks like TNS was... ahem... exaggerating.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 14 February 2019 06:04 (five years ago) link
*some
Hadn’t heard of that. So, how do you rate their new tracks?
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 14 February 2019 07:33 (five years ago) link
My bad I guess, I never even realized TNS was a producer. I thought his credit on “Banomoya” was for the male vocal part. (Of course, he’s got a credit on “Club Controller” as well, but I never made the connection.) Judging by their respective new tracks, TNS played a big part in creating that sound though.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 14 February 2019 08:38 (five years ago) link
I organized a small battle between two of my favourite tracks right now. It’s over here: Gqompetition time: two songs, two videos - QDOT vs SHADO M
Feel free to take a look and participate!
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 14 February 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link
More Kaybee collaborators, with a fun jam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb5RXKRZ-3QLaSoulMates ft. Oskido & Busiswa • iStory
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 February 2019 00:31 (five years ago) link
catching up on some 2018 tracks. sho madjozi's huku is amazing
― ||||||||, Saturday, 16 February 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link
You might like the one right before your post as well then
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 February 2019 23:22 (five years ago) link
In my search for context for the Shado M song posted above that I’m currently obsessed with (as discussed here) I came across this banger:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KLgVIyoHPoSetro Beats x Diloxclusiv • Makwenzeke
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link
Is everyone aware that kruezer2 went ahead and started an Old School Afropop thread? It’s actually busier than this one right now, for shame lol!
― breastcrawl, Monday, 25 February 2019 22:03 (five years ago) link
I revisited Sho Madjozi’s debut album Limpopo Champions League, and damn, it’s good! (thanks for reminding me, |||||||||!)It’s fun, sassy and colourful, just like Busiswa’s Highly Flavoured, but musically it’s much more of a grab bag. It has several gqom jams (like “Huku”), it has shangaan electro, a cool track with Kwesta, but also an EDM track, and an r&b love jam. And then there’s my two favourite tracks, which may or may not fall into the xibelani, xitsonga and xingondo genres she cites as influences.Highlight #1: “Yaz’ Abelungu”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ascPO9HhkiY(produced by She’s Drunk - their collaborative track “Amadoda” was recently posted on the Rolling Reconstructed Club Music thread)Highlight #2: “Changanya” ft. Marioo & Aubrey Qwana:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_wzdXg90Z4(sung in Swahili - more on Marioo later)It was released in December, ufo nominated it for the album poll. I’m pretty sure I will nominate it again for the 2019 EOY.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 19:54 (five years ago) link
As good a time as any to post this gqom track and video by queer performance art duo FAKA:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHCN8bynfF0FAKA • Uyang’khumbula(From 2017, but I only found out about it late last year, and then was reminded of it and them again through this: https://www.okayafrica.com/bigger-nzuza-faka-south-africa-music-interview/)
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link
A helpful YouTuber translated the hook:
Do you remember me,we used to sleep together on a sponge,and on a different day we slept in a bushMy father beat us when we were eating each other (having sex) in the kitchenfrom the morning until midday
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link
Replacing some dead YouTube links:
DJ Yanga ft. MarazA & MJ Washington • Dancia Dancia
LaSoulMates ft. Oskido & Busiswa • iStory
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:54 (five years ago) link
Tanzanian Marioo (who’s on that Swahili Sho Madjozi track) is a relative newbie. He’s similar to Rayvanny, Harmonize and other post-Diamond Platnumz singers, but his jams are meatier, “Wauwe” being a case in point:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN1m37Y2ZFwAlso, the Arab elements in the instrumenation seem to be more pronounced (does that mean it’s “taarab”-influenced? maybe kruezer2 can help me out here?) “Manyaku” is a case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIgmVc6sDaY
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link
Through Marioo I also found out about Gigy Money, a husky-voiced rapper/singer who’s got some nice tracks:Gigy Money • Papahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWmarlfdxo(there’s a remix with Marioo now too)Gigy Money ft. Whozu & Sanja • Kiki Ni Gigy:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skYyXRSxPgU
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link
(not sure about that remix, I think both versions on Spotify are actually the same, but Marioo is credited on the most recent one only. he’s not in the vid though, that’s for sure)
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link
Ghana update:GuiltyBeatz ft. Mr Eazi & Kwesi Arthur • Pilolo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzfAuw_zu6s (the *actual* follow-up to “Akwaaba”)A-Star • Balaya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSYi_JkTJmU (his “Kupe Dance” was one of last year’s biggest Afropop hits, although it was never posted here. I like this one better)FOKN Bois ft. Medikal • Wo Nim Mi:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsmM4PXMANk (FOKN Bois is the side project of rappers M3NSA and Wanlov the Kubolor. This is from their new album Afrobeats LOL)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link
a star track is so great
― but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:47 (five years ago) link
There’s a video for Zlatan x Burna’s “Killin’ Dem” (just as well, cause the link upthread went dead):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EfSs6-Pxx8
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:59 (five years ago) link
At once very 80s housey and very recognisably 2018-19 SA clubby, I love it:Kwiish SA ft. C’Buda, Macfowlen & Vukani • Iskhathi(This is the vocal mix, the instrumental ‘Main’ mix seems unexplicably to be more popular in South Africa)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link
Ha yeah Spottie, I agree!xxp
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link
Another Ghanian hit — Pappy Kojo ft. Joey B & Nshorna • Balance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyKqdS9l2uc(it features legendary azonto producer Nsho(r)na a/k/a Krynkman a/k/a Amadaa, who only raps here and puts in a little shout-out to “Obuu Mo”, the 2011 E.L classic he produced)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link
High-level Naija collabos: Patoranking ft. Davido • Confirm:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR6anPLRv6g(never realized their voices are that similar)D’banj & 2Baba • Baecation:http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=h-XMvzgi0eE(imagine how big this would have been ten years ago)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 March 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-XMvzgi0eE
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 March 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
GuiltyBeatz at it again:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32HG5UYPs1wMs Banks ft. Kida Kudz • Snack(location: exactly halfway between the UK and West Africa)(Note: this beat is guilty of resembling the one Samklef made for Wizzy’s “Don’t Dull” - this is not a crime) Juls at it again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of8zdBPIWlIZlatan ft. Damibliz, Worlasi & Juls • Kokosa(location: exactly halfway between Ghana and Nigeria)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 March 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link
R2Bees have a new album out (only their third in ten years!), called Site 15. I posted their collaboration with Burna Boy on the Burna thread. This is a new track with their buddy Wizkid:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6j5Y3DuSvcR2Bees ft. Wizkid • Straight From Mars
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:05 (five years ago) link
The new Olamide hit with Killertunes producing is... pretty good, I guess, but Young John has done this type of joint for Baddo more than once before:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOCrMPxgWqoOlamide • Woske
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link
All of the above are fine and dandy, but this... is the fucking best!!! (or is it my current South African bias?)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGVP1HcXQhAMFR Souls feat. TallArseTee • Bamb’ikhandaAlso: epic party video(Their earlier track “Glory” is more conventional soulful house, but also very good)
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 3 March 2019 17:14 (five years ago) link
So Babes Wodumo livestreamed Mampintsha beating her up on IG, and it’s pretty terrible. DJ Tira just released a statement supporting her wholeheartedly.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 4 March 2019 10:17 (five years ago) link
Re Mmino, the new Prince Kaybee album is out. With just six new tracks besides the three singles, it’s not overly generous. The new tracks are solid (with the exception of “AfroTech Thursday”, a real dud imo), but there’s nothing nearly as epic and groundbreaking (and just plain banging) as “Club Controller” or “Banomoya”. I think this is my favourite of the new tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8M2qEonOzE
Prince Kaybee ft. Holly Rey • Yes You Do
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
ANGOLAN AFRO-HOUSE/KUDURO SPECIAL: Nerú Americano and Os Santiegos (remember “Sem Maldades”?) have teamed up again (as, yes, you could have almost guessed it, “O Team”) for a mini album of six slamming tracks. I love all the ass action in the official video for lead track “Sim”, but the military roleplay is too triggering (literally, and especially now) to post it without a warning, so here’s a TV performance of it instead:O Team • Sim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXbkmravNg4The “Sem Maldades” producer releases a track of his own:DJ Vado Poster ft. Ed Sangria • Peso: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TS0H65B3Aw(oh, you enjoyed that TV performance? Here’s another one!)From last year, also produced by DJ Vado Poster (some amazing dancing in this video):Cadu Fashion & Mr Brazuca • Andamento: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSve4vp7AITwo that are more informed by trap:Preto Show ft. Teo No Beat • 150 BPM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tst_QFcQAq4DJ Nelasta ft. Titica & Paulelson • Tonga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRkL28SzBOkAnd finally, an oldie, from 2014:Staff Paulo ft. Gaia Beat & DJ Ricardo Orange • Sapelemé: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEp9ktHV6Sg
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:51 (five years ago) link
Wed. March 27 - Mr. Eazi at the Fillmore in Silver Spring, Md near Washington DC. Maybe I will go
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:42 (five years ago) link
Great track from Ghana (Naija references notwithstanding): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kBC94pjDYgRJZ & DarkoVibes ft. Magnom & Nana Benyin • Zanku”This is not a music video... It’s all fun & gamesnow LETS ZANKU!!!”I guess, and it’s also just one minute long. Here’s the full track.
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:46 (five years ago) link
Reminder: we can all help make ILM a less boring place by posting cool music and interesting content!
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 24 March 2019 22:49 (five years ago) link
important public service announcement there!Zanku is quite good.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 25 March 2019 15:40 (five years ago) link
X-post- Mr. Eazi dc area gig postponed till April 25
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 15:55 (five years ago) link
Visa issues he said in a social media post
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 28 March 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link
just head 'straight from mars' by r2bees & wizkid. so subtle and great.thanks so much breastcrawl for all the amazing music you've been posting.
― Nourry, Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
Happy to hear that, Nourry! Makes me feel less like some kind of Theresa May, stubbornly trying to push through something nobody is really interested in.FYI: There’s a duet between Wizkid and Teni coming up that’s also super smooth and subtle from what I’ve heard of it (I don’t have access to the link right now).The thing is though, I’m only scratching the surface. I wish others would share and discuss their favourites and discoveries here as well, so we would get a bigger picture, and it would become less of a I’m-Listening-To-This-Music-So-You-Don’t-Have-To kind of thing, but maybe that’s too much to ask of ILM in its current state. I love ILM, but it’s lost a lot of its lustre with so many posters becoming less active or simply disappearing. (Did they migrate to greener pastures, and if so where might these be?). Retro is the default mode more than ever before. It’s mainly old music that brings all the boys/girls to the threads, and while that’s fine in and of itself, I’d so much rather talk and read about the exciting music I’m listening to now (which does include new-to-me old school African pop tbh) than about music I found thrilling back in the day and only listen to occasionally these days.Anyway, end of lament. There’s lots of great new stuff to post, but I’m in a YouTube-unfriendly part of the world right now. I might post some Spotify links instead soon, if it’s alright with you folks.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 13:04 (five years ago) link
Your lost-lustre lament is exactly how I started to feel about ilm about two years ago (iirc). I think I've mostly stopped feeling bad about it, though sometimes the 180-degree disparity between the general drift of recent discourse and how the ilm I first discovered would have reacted is kind of stunning. I've been absent itt because I haven't been listening to much in this vein, but that's partially because there's been a slew of good to great albums/EPs out (Solange, DAWN, Koffee, Christian Scott, Comet Is Coming, etc).
Anyway, I really came to post this Eugy "Lolo" I just listened to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viLHv8IkcDM
― rob, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 13:58 (five years ago) link
I was enjoying this Kranium song Mind Blown which turns out to be the same (Young John) production as this:
Kizz Daniel, "Fvck You"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGGu65glWpU
Both versions are pretty great imo
― rob, Wednesday, 3 April 2019 14:07 (five years ago) link
I’ve felt this way before too (pretty sure I’ve complained about it once or twice as well) and I actually quit posting for months on end two times because of the lack of feedback. I guess this time it’s the post-EOY blues in large part (you know, with everyone going “Wow, who knew this music was that fantastic. Guess I will start following the Afropop thread now!”, and then, as usual, nothing happens. Nabozo predicted it, I guess I should have seen it coming lol)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 4 April 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link
But back to the music: I really like the Eugy, hadn’t come around to playing it yet. Especially like that it’s produced by Spanker, further proof of the upsurge of Dutch urban music. I have mixed feelings about “Fvck You”. ‘Good guy’ Kizz is showing his misogynistic side more and more, and I don’t like it. However: am I reading you right and did Young John produce a track for Kranium? That would be interesting. It’s not on Spotify, so I can’t check.
Oh I didn’t catch barely any of the lyrics on the Kizz, that’s a shame. The Kranium is called Mind Blown and it’s on Spotify in Canada anyway. It’s the same music as Fvck exactly, just different vocals
― rob, Thursday, 4 April 2019 03:44 (five years ago) link
I did think it was odd that the dude who sang Mama was putting out a song called Fvck You, but I haven’t paid much attention to him since that album
― rob, Thursday, 4 April 2019 03:46 (five years ago) link
Both versions are good but, yeah, no reason for Kizz Daniel of all people to go there, so I'll probably be playing the Kranium version way more. Is this a general tendency in recent Nigerian pop music or is it just a case of Kizz Daniel trying to rebrand himself as edgy?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 4 April 2019 09:13 (five years ago) link
I think it’s on Kizz, really. He’s been sexing up his image ever since “Sofa”, two years ago now. However, he could be setting a trend with the video for his recent smash “Madu”, which is very steamy for Nigerian standards. (it has some lyrical raunch as well). (you’ll have to look up the video yourselves, all I can do is post the Spotify link.It’s not nearly the best track on his album though, that would be the similarly titled “Maye”, even though that’s another golddigger-bashing song.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 4 April 2019 10:45 (five years ago) link
oh yeah I do remember "Sofa," I think I liked that one. Lol I forgot he called his album No Bad Songz. In defiance of that title, I didn't get very far into it the one time I tried to listen, but "Maye" bumps. ("Madu" is dull imo.)
But I relistened to "Fvck You" and I still can barely discern what he's singing about, so I think I'm okay with it--all praise to Young John most likely. Also, on the Kranium version he says he calls his dick "Jehovah Thickness", which is hilarious but I'm not sure his version is a lyrical safe haven :)
― rob, Thursday, 4 April 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link
Especially like that it’s produced by Spanker, further proof of the upsurge of Dutch urban music.
btw, breastcrawl, could you expand on this? I don't know who Spanker is or what the Dutch connection is.
― rob, Thursday, 4 April 2019 14:02 (five years ago) link
“Jehovah Thickness” is A+“Fvck You” is about a girl he was seeing who turned out to be an ‘ashawo’ (=slut); the chorus is basically him listing all the colleagues (you might recognize some names) who fucked her apart from him. He feels betrayed, the poor thing.It does look like Kranium paid a little work visit to Naija. He and Kizz are both on the track “Send Her Money” on the Olamide-supervised YBNL MaFia Family album that dropped late December, and Young John is affiliated with that label too, so it makes sense.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:05 (five years ago) link
Spanker is one of the biggest producers within the Dutch urban scene, which has basically taken over the Dutch music industry in the past five years or so. Afro vibes are a non-negligible part of this.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link
I should add: some of these producers are making waves internationally too (this does include working with/for Diplo/Major Lazer). I’ve mentioned it elsewhere, but one of last year’s biggest latin hits, “X” by Nicky Jam and J Balvin, was produced by Dutch producer duo Afro Bros.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 4 April 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
dang I kind of wish you hadn't spelled out those Kizz lyrics. I had noticed some famous names but didn't get why he was saying them--in fact it sounds more like he's dissing them if you don't know what's going on...oh well, 2016 already feels like a special moment in naija pop that I have nostalgia for, so I guess I can add "that was when Kiss Daniel wasn't a dickhead" to the list of reasons why.
interesting stuff about the Dutch scene, thanks!
Also, on further listens I really really like "LoLo." It's so airy and sprightly, it reminds me of "Ghana Bounce"...just don't tell me what it's about lol
― rob, Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link
There is, fyi, also a "clean version" of Fvck You on Spotify. I can't make out what he's saying there either, but I'll stick to it.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 4 April 2019 16:54 (five years ago) link
xp Sorry about that, rob! Realized I should have added a spoiler alert after I posted it lol.
in fact it sounds more like he's dissing them if you don't know what's going on
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 6 April 2019 07:58 (five years ago) link
As promised, some current faves - with their Spotify links, as I’m in a YouTube-less part of the world.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:00 (five years ago) link
First up, seven smooth tracks with trademark Naija sweetness:A) Fireboy DML • Jealous (an absolute beauty, originally on the YBNL MaFia Family album - and plugged in Olamide’s “Woske” video posted upthread) Spotify linkB) Tee Y Mix ft. Teni • Bilo (it’s Teni, baby, need I say more? Oh yeah: duet with Wizkid upcoming) Spotify linkC) Skiibii ft. Reekado Banks • Sensima (posted last year, but still in the mix, this song won’t quit!) Spotify linkD) Oxlade • Shugar (bringing that sweetness!) Spotify linkE) Reekado Banks • Maria (exquisite, produced by Young John) Spotify linkF) Iyanya ft. Duncan Mighty • Halle Spotify link(Iyanya “celebrated” this (very good) sort-of comeback single by coming clean about his partnership with label boss Ubi Franklin. It’s yet another story of complete dysfunctionality in the Naija music industry.G) Rema • Dumebi (new signing on Don Jazzy’s Mavin Records) Spotify link
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:07 (five years ago) link
Two more:H) DJ Prince ft. Olamide & Phyno • Piom Piom (highlife pop alert!) Spotify linkI) IBK Spaceshipboi ft. Always Good (?), Waje & Praiz • Because Of You (possible Alté alert! loving this vibe) Spotify link
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:09 (five years ago) link
Legwork and other street and/or dancefloor stuff, times four:J) Reminisce • Oja (produced by Sarz) Spotify linkK) Lil Kesh ft. Fireboy • Le Le Yi (another track of the YBNL MaFia Family album; can’t check, but this sounds like a Sarz production as well) Spotify linkL) Qdot • Koshi Danu (follow-up to “Gbese”, it’s another good one) Spotify linkM) DJ Xclusive ft. Zlatan Ibile • Gbomo Gbomo (another Rexxie joint) Spotify link
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:11 (five years ago) link
All of course to be found on this Spotify playlist: ILM rolling Afropop / Afrobeats / Afrodance 2019
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 6 April 2019 08:30 (five years ago) link
epic post, breastcrawl, wow. To quickly clarify: I by no means think it's all been downhill since 2016--last year was huge!--it was just packed with personal favorites (some actually from 2015...really the whole "good year/bad year" thing is a little silly).
oh my god "Jealousy" is sooo good, thank you
― rob, Saturday, 6 April 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
sorry "Jealousy"
― rob, Saturday, 6 April 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link
pretty obsessedlil frosh / small doctor "firi yahoo"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4VFJDVywak
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 7 April 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link
^^^ You found my Exhibit N!
― breastcrawl, Monday, 15 April 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
I’m becoming ever so slightly addicted to this slice of Angolan kizombo myself:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL5z4_xFEBEYudi Fox • Baixinhas
― breastcrawl, Monday, 15 April 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link
By the way, did anyone catch Mr Eazi (& GuiltyBeatz) and/or Burna Boy (streaming) live at Coachella (on Friday and Saturday respectively)?
― breastcrawl, Monday, 15 April 2019 20:36 (five years ago) link
I guess not...
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link
Two big East African smash hits from the House of Wasafi:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teejx562wxgHarmonize ft. Burna Boy & Diamond Platnumz • Kainama(video features Burna in a bathtub)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6pCgzHMJY8Rayvanny ft. Diamond Platnumz • Tetema
Video for Niniola’s “Designer”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib7YN4jK-oMShe also has a cute song with Mr. P:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe5KxFF4n8wMr. P ft. Niniola • One More Night
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 20 April 2019 09:48 (five years ago) link
Designer is very good. Her and Sarz are such a great team.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 21 April 2019 18:10 (five years ago) link
New DJ Sumbody:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7kIa3OXsdUDJ Sumbody ft. Kwesta, Thebe, Vettys & Vaal Nation • Ngwana Daddy
― breastcrawl, Monday, 22 April 2019 15:13 (five years ago) link
More from South Africa:KayGee DaKing & Bizizi ft. Killa Kau • Kokota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Qj7HwJCwsBoss track.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 22:35 (five years ago) link
*Killer Kau
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 22:37 (five years ago) link
Wizkid getting grief on twitter from North American based fans for being a live appearance no-show a lot. Read elsewhere a guess that Wizkid’s band had visa issues, but it’s not clear why he missed 2 DC area gigs & Coachella (both weekends). The afternoon DC gig was a big rap/ r'n'b stadium fest w/ Childish Gambino & Lil Wayne where Wizkid was scheduled to be the sole Afrobeats act; the evening DC bill in a 5,000 seater was all afrobeats I think
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 April 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link
I'm really digging that Yudi Fox track and pretty much all the "Introduçao" album
― daavid, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
“Moça Louca” off that album is an all-time kizombo classic.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
This is spectacularly delightful:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoDKpLQ_tBkManqonqo ft. DJ Tira & Airic • NgibambeIs this the first track to be informed by the “Inhliziyo Yami Ithi Hey“ beat? And man, those synths!
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 12 May 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
Manqonqo - whose big hit “Eyadini” I momentarily forgot has a similar beat (must be all those current AmaPiano hits confusing me) - is also on this amazing track from the recent-ish (and very good) Dbn Nyts album, SeXtion 3:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fbIF3eoL6gDbn Nyts ft. Manqonqo & Cueber • Bawele
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 12 May 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
G) Rema • Dumebi (new signing on Don Jazzy’s Mavin Records) Spotify link
― breastcrawl, Saturday, April 6, 2019 4:07 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hey this song is pretty sweet and seems to be blowing up a little? There's a cute video now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUU1bIWpH5c
― rob, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
thank you to all of you posting this stuff. i'm really having a great afternoon listening to all of it and going down youtube rabbit holes related to it, etc.
sincerely, thanks!!
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 24 May 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
Good to hear! What are some of your favourites, whether from this thread or from the rabbit holes you fell into?
― breastcrawl, Friday, 24 May 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link
Dumebi is officially the jam.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 27 May 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link
So how do you (all) rate the new Wizkid?You can find it here, on the designated Starboy thread.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 27 May 2019 11:11 (four years ago) link
breastcrawl, the DBN NYTS stuff is undoubtedly my favorite of the recent stuff you've posted. "Bawele," "Shumaya," "Gqom User," they're all pretty dope!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAg2iLMEf-Y
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 27 May 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
I’m behind on just about everything but the new Wizkid is good and Jealous(y) is excellent.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 06:04 (four years ago) link
not too sure about what is exactly being said here. it's been described as "prayerful," but i do like this a lot, the chorus is hype.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGviQthFllw
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 May 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
Some background on the “prayerfulness” of Zlatan’s “This Year”:https://thenativemag.com/music/zlatan-shares-inspirational-prayerful-new-single-year(props to producer Rexxie for making his highly recognizable sound still sound so fresh here)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 31 May 2019 07:34 (four years ago) link
finally caught up on the last two months or so of this thread and I really like "Designer"! a lot of the gqom posted lately has been really nice too
― ufo, Friday, 31 May 2019 11:31 (four years ago) link
Runtown has an EP out, called Tradition. This is the Spellz-produced single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwVAm41vHngRuntown • EmotionsPatoranking is playing it quite safe on his second album Wilmer, trying to cover as many African markets as he can. I like the DJ Coublon-produced “Nakupenda” with Kenyan singer Nyashinski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nkEWbUGIFA
― breastcrawl, Friday, 31 May 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
But the biggest album in Naija right now is Mandy & The Jungle by Santi. A similar hype to Odunsi surrounds him, but he’s the more interesting Alté artist, I think.Santi • Sparky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpc-qsVY-BAHe’s also on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD1Ce3Xft7sprettyboyDO ft. Santi • Pull Up
― breastcrawl, Friday, 31 May 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
As for Rema: yes, “Dumebi” is the jam and it’s most certainly “blowing up a little”. It’s been the biggest song in Naija practically from the day it dropped (so that’s two months and counting), and “Corny” (another goodie) off his EP is doing very well also. The song is also big in Ghana and crossing over to other African countries as we speak. I liked this profile on him: https://thenativemag.com/featured/meet-rema-kid-benin-world-feetThis single with mentor D’Prince is also good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGIwGyW6X14D’Prince ft. Rema • Lavida
― breastcrawl, Friday, 31 May 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
love that first Santi track, thought it really does sound like he's saying "i'm a lawyer" during the bridges? am i hearing things?
i've started following the Native more closely because of this thread!!
love "Lavida," too. good stuff.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 May 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
am i hearing things?
― breastcrawl, Friday, 31 May 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
ohhh sparki is awesome
― easy ball shooter (Spottie), Friday, 31 May 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
xpost to breastcrawl: god, i'm such an idiot, i should've figured that.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 31 May 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link
Maybe these love jams can lift your spirit?Both from Ghana (with some Nigerian input in one case):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXoWrKHp9f8Amaarae ft. Wande Coal • Spend Some Timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I5898XrWlgT’neeya ft. Kwesi Arthur, B4bonah & TimiBOI • Bend It
― breastcrawl, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link
(Some badly needed female voices as well)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link
Spottie, Sparki or Santy? I think we need to poll this... xps
― breastcrawl, Friday, 31 May 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link
Just climbed aboard the Santi train. Thanks, guys.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 1 June 2019 06:42 (four years ago) link
It’s DEFINITELY lawyer though, lol
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 1 June 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link
My only question would be why Santi seems to be getting some sort of push that other african artists aren’t getting in the West atm? He deserves it but it’s not as though that usually matters.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 1 June 2019 09:09 (four years ago) link
Another yes for Santi
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 1 June 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link
"Lavida" is awesome, and Rema really makes it what it is. Not surprised it's doing so well in Nigeria, but ftr when I said it was blowing up a little, I meant I saw it on the Fader lol
I don't recall the Odunsi album well enough to articulate why I like that Santi more, but "Sparky" is dope, I'll have to check out the whole album.
Also I don't want to give the afrobeats thread its very own "that's where I'm a viking" clusterfuck but it's clearly LIAR
― rob, Sunday, 2 June 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link
oh it's "liar" for sure - but I heard "lawyer" first and can't unhear it.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 2 June 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link
X-post - Seems like the Fader is almost only one giving the crossover coverage
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 2 June 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
yeah it seemed meaningful to me at the time since the Fader feels more parochial to me these days (meaning, at least, that their dancehall and afropop coverage has significantly dwindled compared to a few years back)
― rob, Sunday, 2 June 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
picking up on longneck's question, it's p interesting to see Santi on a list/site like this: https://music.avclub.com/5-new-releases-we-love-a-sexy-riff-heavy-collision-a-1835105291
― rob, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
ok scrolling through Reeves's twitter it makes more sense now
― rob, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
Well... when I tried to pitch Santi to some of my closest musical friends recently it turned out they already knew about him from another friend who usually doesn't follow this kind of music too closely. So I'm thinking he must have hit some sort of trendy nerve and could actually blow up.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 3 June 2019 04:45 (four years ago) link
It'll be interesting to see how the new Goldlink single featuring Maleek Berry (and Bibi B) does. He's on the Santi album so there might be some sort of connection here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP3YqHqDVVY&frags=pl%2Cwn
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 3 June 2019 04:49 (four years ago) link
Btw, I stumbled upon this Big Zulu feat. Kwesta and it's growing on me fast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR7R_8LXGIY&frags=pl%2Cwn
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 3 June 2019 04:53 (four years ago) link
ouch pitchfork does not like the Santi album
― rob, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
pffftfork
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
tbh his problem with Santi is similar to why I wasn't taken with Odunsi--though he's more comfortable with basically saying "this doesn't sound Nigerian enough" than I am--so I'll admit I'm less enthused about listening to it now. Does anyone here rep for the whole album?
― rob, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
I listened to the album twice so far, and though I quite enjoyed it, apart from the singles there was hardly anything that stood out for me or that I felt like playing again afterwards (well, maybe “Raw Dinner”), and the review does a good job of pinpointing why that might be. And yes, it’s very similar to the Odunsi situation, although I feel, as I said upthread, Santi is the more interesting of the two.Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate and enjoy the genre as an extra flavour on the Naija (in this case) smorgasbord, it’s all that “heralding the future of Afropop” (© The Native) stuff that bugs me. If that’s the future, I can’t say I’m looking forward to it. I much prefer the present, thanks.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
I guess I like the idea of Afropop infiltrating and upsetting the Drakosphere much better than the idea of the Drakosphere infiltrating and overtaking the world of Apropop.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link
Apropop? Yeah, that would be the perfect hybrid.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
The song that ended Rema’s reign: Mayorkun + Kizz Daniel + Young John = the throwback that is “True”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLpfxDFSN7EFootnote: So last week I left out something about Don Jazzy probably pinching his arm about Rema’s unexpected success after the protracted slump of his Mavin Records and the loss of Reekado and Tiwa - too much inside baseball, I felt. But lo(l) and behold, that very same day he came out again with his Mavins, pretending it’s still 2014 and we’re still living in Dorobucci Land. Will order be restored?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-pwj2SEUd8Mavins ft. Don Jazzy, Korede Bello, Rema, DNA & Crayon • All Is In Order(not sure how well this fits in with the plan outlined in that Native pieceto develop Rema as a not-your-typical-afropop artist)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
In other news: Wande’s still got it (see also the Amaarae track posted over the weekend):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snpa4_kUkkgmelvitto ft. Wande Coal • Gentility
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
All is in order does sound very 2014, but it sure made me realize how much I've been missing the sound of Don Jazzy's voice.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 June 2019 07:55 (four years ago) link
And no, the Santi album isn't all that great and is not the future of anything, but it does have about three really good songs on it from a brand new artist and that's what matters.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 June 2019 07:56 (four years ago) link
In other news I woke up wondering if there had been a better artist producer combo in any genre over the last couple of years than Niniola and Sarz? Designer is sooooooo good.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 June 2019 07:59 (four years ago) link
Also... on the evidence of Diet I think Tiwa Savage could benefit a lot from working more with Sarz - he loosens up the tiny stiffness that is often holding her back just a bit.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 6 June 2019 08:08 (four years ago) link
hum. I tried a few Santi tracks (Sparky, Rapid Fire, Maria...) and... I don't really get the excitement : it's not bad at all but it's nothing special imo.
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 6 June 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link
listening to the Santi album and "RX-64" is really lovely at the very least
― ufo, Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link
i haven't really kept up with whatever hype there's been surrounding Santi in the western press lately but the album is quite enjoyable overall, though not really exciting. it is interesting to see the influence go back the other way, and he does this sound a lot better than Drake ever has
― ufo, Thursday, 6 June 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link
Santi is also on this nice Juls song:https://youtu.be/BxHLZMeb7-Q
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 7 June 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link
...and he provides the flourish at the end of my favorite track on the Kwesi Arthur album (the hottest thing in Ghana right now):https://m.soundcloud.com/kwesiarthur/kill-my-spirit-ft-sarkodieKwesi Arthur ft. Sarkodie & Santi • Kill My Spirit#standingupforsanti
― breastcrawl, Friday, 7 June 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link
South African interlude - also to let you all know that there is some good new stuff on the House of Sun-El thread.Two recent discoveries from 2018:Muzi • Bantu Space Odyssey:Spotify link(brought to me by my Spotify Discover Weekly. It’s from his album Afrovision, which is good, as is his new EP.)Tendaness ft. Bholoja & LO • Jika:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPHn3UTNSZQ(this is actually from eSwatini/Swaziland. The guy’s got a new album out, which I haven’t heard yet but I’m very curious about)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 7 June 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link
LOVE that Tendaness track.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 7 June 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
It’s wonderful, isn’t it? Love the video as well.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 7 June 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
i'm legit playing it on a loop. (it was released last year? cannot really believe that the vid has so few views!)
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 7 June 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
I did the same after I found out about the track this morning. It felt like a little miracle.
It was mentioned in this interview with singer S-Tone, one of the guest vocalists on last year’s Sun-El Musician album.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 7 June 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
Yeah! Very nice. It has about 8 000 streams on Spotify at the moment, lol.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
I like that Tendaness album. Sure, “Jika” is the best track, but it’s consistently good, different vocalists and all (including a Slovakian singer!).(which reminds me: the new Mafikizolo single has a verse in German!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMBWFJYpe1kMafikizolo ft. Joy Denalane • Bathelele)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 8 June 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
Whoa, the new Kizz (yes, another one) is really good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As1fCxmMBQ0Kizz Daniel • Eko (with PhilKeyz, low key of one Naija’s most interesting producers of the past years)It’s been a while since I liked an Orezi single this much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0Xt6enVKY0Orezi • My Queen (produced by Mystro)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 8 June 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link
Some discussion (from 28 May onward) on of all places, the Rolling herky-jerky thread about the three singeli albums (by Jay Mitta, Duke, and Sisso) released by Ngyege Nyege Tapes in the past months. These albums are all instrumental stuff, with one exception: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AJtXChPuIUJay Mitta ft. Dogo Mjanja* • Tatizo Pesa(*not to be confused with bongo flava artist Dogo Janja)Good recent article on singeli: https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3442
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 9 June 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
So... here is where I’m trying to make sense of the shifting movements in South African house: Let’s start with some good old spanking gqom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C2ywdq5aa4Aquatick ft. DJ Tira, Joocy, Pianola SA, Rooh, Mamoliza & Fezy Gold • Sunday Morning And this, from last year, but so fucking good (and also involving DJ Tira): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxp9WxVTngUCampMasters ft. DJ Tira, Thuli Chesah & Mapopo • Izingane Zama Extreme I love Mreyza’s Ethekwini EP: “Anger”: Spotify linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRoCpCi_TLQMreyza ft. Madanon • eThekwiniSoundcloud link, just in case. But… the dominance of gqom in the charts appears to be over - for now at least. Now it’s the Amapiano/amaPiano/amapiano/Mapiano sound that reigns supreme.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 10 June 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
Even apart from the Sun-El and Simmy stuff, smoother (like Malumz On Decks’ epic “Shay’iNumber”) and sparser (think DJ Sumbody) house sounds had been on the rise during 2018, contrasting with the frantic Wall of Beats and Sound that is gqom, but amapiano feels like the real anti-gqom. It’s jazzy, dreamy deep house, with very characteristic p(l)opping bass, and of course, as the name suggests, keyboard-heavy (piano or organ). The sound (mainly instrumental at first, I think) has spread from Pretoria, where it originated, to the rest of the country in the past few years. I have the impression that the addition of chanted catchphrases (by MCs) and vocal toplines is relatively new, but I might be wrong. It’s difficult to find good sources on SA music (hint: if anyone has any suggestions…) This is about the only informative article on it I could find: https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/sundayworld/lifestyle/2019-05-28-amapiano-a-new-movement-period/(btw Amapiano must be the only known musical genre known to man that is critiziced for being both too “ratchet” and a “snoozefest”.)
― breastcrawl, Monday, 10 June 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link
I already posted some examples in the past few months: Kwiish SA’s “Iskathi (Gong Gong)” (a big hit, and one of my favs of this year); Kabza De Small’s “Amabele (Shaya)” (Kabza is a big player, it was posted on the Sun-El thread); MFR Souls’ “Bamb’ikhanda” (for that MC thing, plus: great video); and most recently, KayGee DaKing & Bizizi’s “Kokota” (top 10 in SA, check that bass sound!). Here are some more: The biggest track in SA right now (is Larry Heard in the house?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAFzhL7XbCoDeMthuda ft. Njelic • Shesha This one is a bop! Another pop smash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SldyCVP02VMZero12Finest ft. ThaMagnificent2 • Baby Are You Coming? ...and when DJ Maphorisa steps in, you know the deal is sealed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTlR3vyIjkYDJ Maphorisa & Kabza De Small ft. Kaybee Sax • Scorpion Kings (They have a collaborative EP out – not on Spotify yet, but it’s on Maphorisa’s Soundcloud.) Other kwaito veterans like the highly adaptable DJ Vetkuk vs. Mahoota, Oskido, and DJ Cleo have amapiano tracks out as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AluaRRyCc70DJ Vetkuk vs. Mahoota ft. DrumPope, Soul Dictators & Leehleza • Abagezi Labafana
― breastcrawl, Monday, 10 June 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
btw, besides all of the above, the AmaPiano mix compilations are good as primers. Volume 4 is the most recent edition (and a #1 album in SA, that’s how popular the sound has become)
All of this means that “Club Controller” and “Banomoya” were the culmination of gqom-as-chart-music, and not the beginning of a new exciting sound, but here we are (again, for now). It looks like Prince Kaybee himself had already seen the writing on the wall. When it came out, I heard “Fetch Your Life” as a throwback to his older sound and couldn’t quite make sense of that. I’m reposting it because it has a video now and I never fully realized before just how beautiful it is. (It’s quite uptempo compared to the amapiano stuff, but it does have that amapiano bass.)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oedqjPVN-U8Prince Kaybee ft. Msaki • Fetch Your Life (Msaki is also on Tresor’s gorgeous “Sondela” – check out the Sun-El and Song of Summer threads for that one) Follow-up “Gugulethu” has a touch of that Sumbody sparseness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s6CuEsjhGAPrince Kaybee ft. Indlovukazi, Supta & Afro Brotherz • Gugulethu Even TNS, (allegedly!) the principal forger of the Club Controller/Banomoya sound, followsup his banger “My Dali” with two much mellower tracks:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y-I6_KLz-gTNS ft. Fey • Uzongilingahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g2sRTWCWL8TNS ft. Zameka & Londie London • I Believe
― breastcrawl, Monday, 10 June 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
Sorry, that TNS track is titled “Believe”, it should be “...and not the beginning of a new exciting *direction*...”, and I missed a few commas, but yeah...
― breastcrawl, Monday, 10 June 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
"Baby Are You Coming" on a loop. dope track.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 10 June 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link
Thanks for the update, breastcrawl! Will check all this new stuff out.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link
Baby are you coming is definitely a jam.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link
i think i've played it about twenty or thirty times since yesterday.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
Wondering what you’re all making of “Shesha”, since that is the (even) bigger hit. It’s definitely a lot less immediate, I’d say.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
going to be real: i like it okay, but the vocal track sounds strained in a way that really doesn't fit with everything else the track is doing. it isn't even an interesting juxtaposition...i'd almost prefer it as an instrumental.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link
in fact, yeah, i'd really like an instrumental of it, toss the vocal track.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
I really like Shesha. Hearing it back to back with Baby... made this whole amapiano thing come together for me for the first time, actually. I’ve been seeing it around for a while without really grasping what it’s all about.
However, I must say that I’m getting some v strong early 90s vibes from a lot of these instrumental tracks and it’s *almost* bothering me. Not because I don’t like the music (and did back then). It just sounds a bit too familiar.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
I didn’t mention Larry Heard for nothing, and the percussion on “Iskhathi (Gong Gong)” reminds me of Frankie Knuckles/Nightwriters’ “Let The Music (Use You)”. To me these are good things. That bass, the beats and all the other stuff they throw in make it sound new and fresh.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
Yeah, for sure. It was just a bit... unexpected. I’ll get used to it.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
Let the music use you lol!“Shesha” is a weird track though. I went in expecting something like his (=DeMthuda’s) “Blissful Day” (which is beautiful), but with more hooks (since it was charting so high), but I found the music quite underwhelming tbh. The vocal track only started to sink in and grow on me later, but it’s what makes it such a big hit, from what I’m seeing. People are going apeshit over that hook:shesha gezamasiy’e partyini, baby ngiyak’celawhich translates as:hurry up, take a bathlet’s go to the party, I beg you baby(probably loses something in translation, idk)I do prefer “Baby Are You Coming” by a large margin though.This is that “Blissful Day” track btw:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko3VpZFW_JYAgain, that bass is what makes amapiano imo.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
Shesha is a banger
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
while I’m here (lol)...Unfortunately there’s still no video with awesome dancing to go with it, but the best track on the O Team album needs to be on this thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTiVKRWRvqMO Team (Nerú Americano & Os Santiegos) ft. DJ Nelasta • Yeebo
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
"Blissful Day" is gorgeous, thanks.
i can hear the vocal on "Shesha" growing on me, too, though i still dig the Heard vibes by themselves, tbh.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
GreyC • Sere:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWp7aDX0-90(produced by Killertunes, who’s been pretty quiet this year, so far)Always time for the elder Apata sister:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5SWYkPVNKwReminisce ft. Niniola • Jensimi
― breastcrawl, Friday, 14 June 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
ANOTHER MASSIVE BURNA:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so4dgTRaWFkBurna Boy • Anybody(the low-key lush production is by Rexxie, who’s moving up a level here) (video is top notch too)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 14 June 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
Question for rob: did you ever check out the Santi album?
― breastcrawl, Friday, 14 June 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
Burna is seriously in the zone this year. Imagine if Location was all him and no Dave?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 15 June 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link
Dang, bad timing on my part getting super busy the past few weeks--this thread is overflowing!
I did listen to the first six tracks on Mandy & the Jungle. As at least one other poster mentioned, "RX-64" was the highlight, even better than "Sparky" imo. I just listened to and loved "Baby, Are You Coming," so I'll queue up Mandy again, it's pleasant listening for sure. That said, I'm much more curious about wrapping my ears around this amapiano thing, so I'm not sure how long I'll stick with Santi.
As I was about to post in the other thread: that Burna song is awesome! Listening to Dangote for the tenth time the other day, I only just realized how much he sounds like Fela on that--in a good way, not like he's derivative, more that his singing has stepped up a level in terms of being fiery and expressive. I'm pleased "Anybody" seems to be continuing in that vein.
― rob, Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
oh also wanted to say thanks for posting that Mayorkun & Kizz song "True"--that's a jam. They can throw back to kiSS daniel all they want :)
btw the Wizkid feature on the new Goldlink album is worth checking out / add to the "Wizkid, put out an album pleeeease" file
― rob, Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link
alright, I didn't make it to the end of the Santi album. I liked bits of it, but for my taste, the lack of drama/grit in his voice + the lack of drama/grit in the production = soporific.
Switch up either half of that equation and I think you'd have something more special. Case in point: the Juls song "Maayaa" that longneck posted is very nice. Also, virtually all of the guest vocals stood out more for me than Santi's, and I kept wishing someone more expressive or eccentric was singing. otoh, he's got something or I wouldn't have thought about it this much.
― rob, Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link
Thanks for reporting back, rob. Feeling you about the Santi. Does this have the drama/grit you’re looking for?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWyAjHV_nmUMojo ft. prettyboyDO • Chop Life Crew
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link
New Tshegue EP, first and last tracks are bangers:https://ekleroshock.bandcamp.com/album/telema
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
“True” is nice enough, but between it, “What If I Say”, the new Fireboy DML... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YgTEm_-i4U...and the current Sheeran/Bieber thing, I have Sean Kingston’s “Beautiful Girls” in my head way too often these days.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
Not unrelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp6xej5xWfsJoeboy • Baby(this song is big in East African countries as well)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
Oh, and there’s a new Maleek Berry, “Flashy”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjuJZ4hTxc(He was on Jimmy Fallon last week, performing “Zulu Screams” with GoldLink)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
Thanks for the Tshegue heads-up, Jordan! I added both “Solola” and “The Wheel” to this thread’s Spotify playlist. I think I liked “M’Benga Bila” best on first listen.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
The Kizz Daniel track I do wholeheartedly like now has a video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgu-QlgKJtsKizz Daniel • Eko
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 20 June 2019 06:12 (four years ago) link
There really is no escaping Kizz, is there?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPhct2qvzcQYoung John ft. Tiwa Savage & Kizz Daniel • Ello Baby
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
Loving this ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzGhYfL5LIIGigi Lamayne - Fufa (Official Music Video) ft. King Monada
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 23 June 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
That one is great, so much good stuff coming out of South Africa.I love this song, fantastic beat:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP2wMOFuXp4Makhadzi ft. Master KG • Tshikwama
― breastcrawl, Monday, 24 June 2019 07:39 (four years ago) link
And this slower-placed one too:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XusdWegEXvAAubrey Qwana ft. DJ Tira • Ngaqonywa (Remix)
― breastcrawl, Monday, 24 June 2019 07:40 (four years ago) link
Amapianoing to perfection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeJeRmHZtrgJungle Beats • Sapha Lonto
― breastcrawl, Monday, 24 June 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
Rema interview on pitchfork: https://pitchfork.com/features/rising/rema-is-leading-the-next-generation-of-nigerian-pop-interview/
I'll admit I'm a little shook by his "afrobeats is old/for old people" view
― rob, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
Probably checks out with most people on this thread lolBut Rema has certainly blown up when these demos/freestyles are topping the charts.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
Things you were shockingly old when you learned, Afropop version:D’Prince is Don Jazzy’s younger brother.People who have obviously written their own Wikipedia entry, Afropop version:D’Prince.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
Lol. I think I actually knew that at one point. I will always love D'Prince for this album cover.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71zZfoio4AL._SS500_.jpg
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
Packing hits like ”Take Banana” and ”Goody Bag”, he did not fail to capture my attention with that one, yeah.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link
I mean, those are hits!
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
Explicitly so!
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
Nini de catching a Kel P vibe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFthwLOqUe8Niniola • Boda Sodiq
― breastcrawl, Friday, 28 June 2019 05:22 (four years ago) link
Did you notice this? The new 8-song album by J Balvin & Bad Bunny features one track featuring Mr Eazi, produced by Legendury Beatz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcwEyLhwL54
― ahomka ginger, Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link
Btw according to Burna Boy's tweets Anybody track was produced by p2jmusic not Rexxie
― ahomka ginger, Saturday, 29 June 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link
“Como Un Bebé”: Yeah, that one’s a nice surprise and a bop to boot. I posted it on the Soca/Caribbean pop thread as yet another example of Afro-Caribbean cross-pollination.
“Anybody”: Thanks for clearing that up. When the song dropped some outlets (including OkayAfrica) were reporting Rexxie had produced it, but it was a bit strange, because a) it didn’t really sound like him b) his tag wasn’t there and c) he didn’t mention it on his Twitter - so this makes sense. P2J also produced “Zulu Screams”, I didn’t know!
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link
Starting to feel Iron Man *almost* as much as Dumebi.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 29 June 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
How do you like the non-Sarz Niniola, longneck? I think Kel P provided her with a great beat.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
I’ve only listened once. My first reaction: hey, this is pretty good for a non-Sarz Niniola track!
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 29 June 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
lol, accurate
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=7TMrCktOmmE where (and how) the magic happened
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
my YouTube is weak these days...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TMrCktOmmE^^where (and how) the magic happened
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 29 June 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
Spectacularly good new gqom:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_R_AOhzPx4Material Culture ft. King Lee • NgenzanTheir whole Skhothane EP is wild. File next to Angola’s Os Santiegos, I suppose. Same setup: four dancers/chanters working with a beatmaker. Shame they don’t have videos for these tracks**. Also - imagine Busiswa working (with) these beats!**(but this is them last year, dancing to King Lee’s amazing “Street Fight”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRwO1ie-LhQ)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link
AmaPiano fortissimo: https://youtu.be/0N2fID9FpZQVusinator ft. Soso & Killa • Gigabyte (also known as “Gigaba”)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N2fID9FpZQ
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link
That beat is everything.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
Can’t wait to hear what NaijaPiano is going to sound like.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 29 June 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
Noticed too late to attend that Kizz Daniels was in DC Friday night. Folks on twitter said he was likely just singing over tracks
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 June 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link
Sweet stuff, taking off across Africa. But he’s (Nigerian-)American, so who knows, a potential US hit, post-“Fall”?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7oo1QmZ1ecRotimi • Love Riddim
― breastcrawl, Monday, 1 July 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
Digging the new Adekunle Gold, “Kelegbe Megbe (Know Your Level)”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MucSft25l6I
― breastcrawl, Monday, 1 July 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
The new Diamond Platnumz... “bangs” is not the right word, it rocks and it rolls perhaps, but either way it’s great. Fantastic production. (and 4 million YT views within a week? that’s huge) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBWdmypdkYIDiamond Platnumz • Kanyaga
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
I’m so happy there’s a new Malumz on Decks album. Lots of great groovy SA house jams (although the first two tracks may not be the strongest), including two remixes of “Shayi’number”. This is one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Caf5HbibuVoMalumz on Decks ft. Indlovukazi • Cwebetela(btw, on Spotify the album (which is titled Find Your Way) is m/l hidden in the Compilations section of the Malumz on Decks artist page - all the more confusing as their debut album, The Journey from 2017, has been reuploaded as a 2019 release in the regular Albums section)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 6 July 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
I fixed the date on The Journey and the album type on Find Your Way...
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 8 July 2019 03:16 (four years ago) link
Thanks Glenn, great job!
― breastcrawl, Monday, 8 July 2019 06:08 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SldyCVP02VMZERO12SFINEST ft THAMAGNIFICENT2 -Baby are you coming (Official Video)
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 8 July 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
Yes, that’s a thread favourite, so no harm in reposting it, I guess.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 8 July 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
Got things to say about the DJ Maphorisa/Kabza De Small “EP” mentioned upthread that’s now on Spotify and Apple Music, but first it’s...The Revenge of Gqom:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87pF9M1IF1kBig Mike & Jive MaWeekend ft. Abafana Bo’Msindo • Umnqongo
― breastcrawl, Monday, 8 July 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link
...a/k/a Banomoya is back, baby!Interesting: Distruction Boyz are following the Banomoya trail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHKtmRP7DfcDistruction Boyz ft. NaakMusiQ & DJ Tira • SinenkaniBut fasten your seatbelts. This one does my head in. Can’t believe how good it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnmaRBz5GI8Mampinthsa ft. TNS • Joburg(and I hate that it’s Mampinthsa who brought out the Banomoya-best in TNS, but here we are)
― breastcrawl, Monday, 8 July 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
This awesome track by Soft dropped last Christmas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OJs_h32rNASoft • MoneyThere is a remix with Wizkid now.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
There’s a video for “Boda Sodiq” already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs4KfzL1gU8
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 11 July 2019 07:14 (four years ago) link
Playing catch-up this morning. That Adekunle Gold track "Know Your Level" is really good--great to see it as I haven't enjoyed much he's done in a long time. It would fit nicely in the Nigerian wing of the House of Sun-El
― rob, Thursday, 11 July 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
That’s a connection I would never have made! Not sure I can hear it like that though, it feels more of a piece with the Burna stuff to me.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link
Yeah it's not like a huge break from other naija stuff or anything, but Gold is such a gentle presence (compared to someone like Burna) and, especially, the little break at 2:00 gives me some of the same feeling as...whatever we'd call that Sun-El microgenre. If that moment was stretched out I think it would connect even more strongly.
― rob, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Monday, July 8, 2019 2:06 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
weird, my bad, ctrl f failed me
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link
Interesting times:https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a28409499/beyonce-the-lion-king-album/
(I guess the url could have been better)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
More good news - Juls and Mr Eazi reunite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju9khTsPUk4Juls ft. Mr Eazi • CakeNew mixtape (Juls’s, that is) dropping next week.New A-Star banger, with significant help from GuiltyBeatz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXbww6W3O3EA-Star ft. GuiltyBeatz • Bogada
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
maybe I should post the tracklist? https://critiqsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Beyonce-The-Gift-Tracklist.jpgxp
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 18 July 2019 04:24 (four years ago) link
It was a difft thread where you guys talked abt shared love for zero12finest fyi
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 18 July 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link
Oh dear, so much for your “failed” Ctrl F efforts.Maybe refrain from these kinds of pronouncements when you clearly haven’t been following this thread (or the Summer Jams one, for that matter).Either way, scroll back to June 10 and start reading from there.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 18 July 2019 05:32 (four years ago) link
i do follow this thread but its being perpetually posted in...the name 'zero12finest' was literally mentioned once in this thread before
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 18 July 2019 06:06 (four years ago) link
you want more ppl to participate in this thread but get mad i dont catch every glib conversation abt a video idk what to tell you
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 18 July 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link
More people would be nice, more people like you maybe not so much.Anyway, you’re a clown (I’m being polite here) and I’m not going to have this thread spoiled by engaging (with) you any further.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 18 July 2019 06:29 (four years ago) link
doesnt sound very polite! Looking forward to posting in this thread again
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 18 July 2019 06:40 (four years ago) link
Here’s hoping we don’t like the same song a couple weeks apart in the future
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 18 July 2019 07:07 (four years ago) link
Seeing Burna Boy on Friday; expecting a very very live crowd.https://www.bricartsmedia.org/events-performances/bric-celebrate-brooklyn-festival/burna-boy-sampa-great-DJ-tunez
that lion king playlist is both terrifying ("Blue Ivy featuring" now?) and exciting; would love to see this break yemi alade big in america
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
aw man report back -- I'm going to be out of town when he's in Montreal :(
― rob, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
I hope Burna Boy is better than when I saw him at the Howard Theatre in DC last year. Sounded then like a disinterested rapper vocalizing over tracks. My fave live afrobeats related act is still Yemi Alade who sang, danced, and was accompanied by a great band in her DC gig.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
A-Star ft. GuiltyBeatz • Bogada
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, July 17, 2019 4:59 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
i really like this
i follow this thread but i don't really post because i don't know shit or have anything to add, but there's always cool stuff...i suspect this thread has a high level of lurkers vs. posters
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
Good to hear you’re enjoying the thread, ums!I’m in the mood for some more Ghanaian stuff. Ladies first!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VVurZqsEg8🔴Sista Afia ft. Medikal & Quamina MP • Weatherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPcT0fhSpG0🔴S3fa ft. DopeNation • Shugahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUwgFVxMTxk🔴Petrah • Tiasohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ8jNU1US2k🔴Eazzy ft. Medikal • Awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWCPdWbqMCo🔴Wendy Shay ft. Shatta Wale • Stevie WonderAnd to finish off, some gospel I can get with:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ-kUAha1Y4🔴Obaapa Christy • W’agye Me
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
Nigerian intermezzo: As current Tiwa-featuring jams go I prefer this Spellz-produced jam to the Young John-produced one with Kizz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tu1_XxkgjYZlatan ft. Tiwa Savage • Shotan
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 18 July 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
regardless of tha beef... zero12finest.... BUMPS so hard
― ||||||||, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
for damn sure
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 18 July 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
Thread for the AmaPiano awesomeness that is “Baby Are You Coming?” by Zero12finest feat. ThaMagnificent2
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
Je kiffe (vachement): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kHnFYzYC-0Sidiki Diabaté ft. Safarel Obiang • BKO-ABJ(as in ‘from Bamako to Abidjan’)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 20 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
ha wow was not expecting the kora at the end (is it illegal for Diabatés to not use one?). damn, that song goes
"Shotan" is wonderful too
― rob, Saturday, 20 July 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link
Of interest, perhaps: the LiON KiNG: the GiFT <<>> where Beyoncé meets with Afropop
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 21 July 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
A couple of weeks old, but I loved this quote from Iris Xie’s blurb for “Dumebi” in The Singles Jukebox: ”Listening to five hours of Afrobeats songs in a community setting really hit it home for me — this is a genre of gentle but incredibly lit bangers, that helps create an atmosphere that allows for complexity and different levels of energy to all exist in a single space, but in a really harmonious manner.”(btw, TSJ seems to finally be shaping up a bit when it comes to African pop, better late than never)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
really like "Shuga" from that longer Ghanaian post above.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link
i'm also catching up, tbh, so please forgive me if i enthuse insanely for the next day or two. "Body Sodiq" is dope tho i don't think as good as "Designer"— vocal lines aren't as hooky. and "Bogada" is doing me in, it's everything i love.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
Enthuse away! I might post some new stuff as well if I can muster enough energy in this hot weather.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 25 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link
Not as high profile as the Burna album obviously, but Colour, the new Juls mixtape, is quality. Dig that opening track:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwWg7Gjoo2UJuls ft. Worlasi • Nyafu Riddim
― breastcrawl, Friday, 26 July 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link
More Ghana - with a dash of Naija, which holds true for the Juls tape as well. Did anyone say “azonto”?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfedeSgAjHkE.L ft. Falz & Joey B • Ehua
― breastcrawl, Friday, 26 July 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
having trouble searching for it, but...is "bogada" slang for money? all i can get is that it means "pages" in Yoruban? just trying to figure out what i've been singing while doing pretty much everything for the past few days lol.
"Anybody" is a sneaky earworm, love it. also love "Tshikwama," but you posted a fan video apparently! there's an official one that has some really fun moments, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIRS17BDK3w
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 July 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link
I don’t know what “bogada” means either, but I doubt it’s a Yoruba word, because it’s a Ghanaian track. Producer GuiltyBeatz (do check out his awesome “Akwaaba” from last year if you don’t know it!) also worked on Beyoncé’s Lion King: The Gift project, including on this highlight:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zEj2LJSoQYBeyoncé ft. Shatta Wale & Major Lazer • Already
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 27 July 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link
(and thanks for the “Tshikwama” video. I don’t think it was available when I posted the track. Still love that song!)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 27 July 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link
Yeah, i just got super confused in my searching for what it means...also a slang term for penis in some Indian dialects? "Bogada" *does* mean "pages" in Yoruba, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense since obviously A-Star is from Ghana via the UK.
this is the sort of thing that bothers me enough that i might have to join twitter just to tweet at A-Star.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 July 2019 12:07 (four years ago) link
To be clear, I wasn’t trying to say there is no such Yoruba word, just that it didn’t seem very likely here.As for that Indian option however...
In studio with an Indian Artist Jaz Dhami.Slowly connecting afrobeats to different cultures— guiltybeatz (@GuiltyBeatz) July 24, 2019
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 27 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
interesting!!
also "Bogada" is hopelessly stuck in my head.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 27 July 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link
Burna Boy has dropped an album
― Nabozo, Saturday, 27 July 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
Read all about it here.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 27 July 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
Enthusiasm was faster than information. As an excuse, some dancing on Inama if you haven't yet seen those moves grown popular.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTh5B5QZZY0
― Nabozo, Sunday, 28 July 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link
Bogada shmogada, it’s now Solege time!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plvRti2sbVcA-Star • Solege(produced by Kel-P, no less)
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 07:29 (four years ago) link
thats sick
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 09:27 (four years ago) link
dope
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link
wait, I just realized I had conflated the producer tags for Kel-P beats and Guiltybeatz in my head. They're not the same person? Sorry for my ignorance here.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
GuiltyBeatz = Ghanaian, “Akwaaba” etc.Kel-P (“it’s Kel-P vibes”) = Nigerian, most of Burna’s post-Outside hits, and Niniola’s current one.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link
(GB uses “another Guilty Beat” as his tag)
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
Yeah that makes sense, but A-star is ghanian, isn't he? Maybe that's why I heard it wrong?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
Yep, and his previous one, “Bogada”, was in fact a GuiltyBeatz production.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link
Right. That should explain my confusion, lol.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
So what does everyone think of Davido’s power move?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgXrOsE5hEDavido ft. Chris Brown • Blow My Mind
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
Not bad but not really touching the best stuff out?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
It’s no Dumebi.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
Naija jam alert:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5RTQ2FSAEUIdahams • Amayanabo (The King)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 07:23 (four years ago) link
Amapiano - baby, keep it coming!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3OTClCxDykJobe London & Mphow69 ft. Kamo Manje • Sukendleleni
Live performance.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 2 August 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
HOLY SHIT SOLEGE
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 August 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
i kind of love this track that came on random shuffle on YouTube—the vocal harmonies are pretty dope, and i dig it as a liberation anthem.
Dj Maphorisa x Kabza De Small ft Mhaw Keys - Koko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0fuyILii2g
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 August 2019 01:10 (four years ago) link
Just heard Davido's "Fall" on my local DC rap/r'n'b station so that marketing push for the song mentioned upthread in a January Rolling Stone article (and a later Rolling Stone article) must still be going...
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 August 2019 03:03 (four years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 3 August 2019 06:21 (four years ago) link
it seems like a lot of other people like it, too, given that it had garnered approximately 60,000 more views in the past 18 hours
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 August 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
*has.
It is pretty massive. I could see him crossing over to more mainstream audiences in a big way tbh.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 August 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link
and of course i'm an idiot, and i don't mean "mainstream," i mean "western/US". way to look like an asshole, table. [hides under rock]
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 August 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
I'm thinking that it's interesting and instructive that Davido and Wizkid have both opted for Chris Brown collabos as if they think *that's* the audience that will help them cross over - while Burna Boy piggybacks off Dave's Location straight into the brit charts.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
ummm so I'm supposed to be talking to a documentary film maker about possibly being a researcher for a new film about afrobeats. interesting!
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
can anyone recommend a site where i can order physical copies of some of these sent to an south african address?
― Heez, Monday, 5 August 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
enjoying busiswa being joyously sweary herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cY0nFJpos0
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
xpost,
I don't think there are a lot of physical copies of this stuff at all, Heez!
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
not even as dubplates?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
Even for the full album releases? I'm looking for the Sun-El and Simmy albums and have my sister in Joberg checking all sorts of places with no luck.
― Heez, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
I bought two copies of the Simmy album at the Musica down on Waterfront in Cape Town in March - I think they had the Sun El as well.
And yes, Tuomas, if you’re reading this it means that I did buy it for you. I just forgot to send it to you - sorry! I still have it if you want it.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
Thought you were specifically askibg about naija music, heez. Sorry again.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
No prob! I did find this record store in Joberg call Afrosynth Records which is now the first place I’m going when I eventually head over there again
― Heez, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxjpzUgZvbo
I'm thinking this girl has potential
I haven't found too many new things that excite me in afrobeats. Some things are good (Supernova, Boda Sodiq, Oil & Gas) but they're not "new".
― Nabozo, Saturday, 10 August 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
Welcoming to the thread: Swae Lee. His new single is produced and co-written by Tekno.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBioIsLoXoESwae Lee ft. Drake • Won’t Be Late
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 17 August 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
Really enjoying Eazzy - Away posted upthread
― frame casual (dog latin), Sunday, 18 August 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link
Happy Mondays!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odSYrpgSPccMaWhoo ft. Heavy K • Umshado
― breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 06:55 (four years ago) link
Got to say that the Swae Drake and Tekno works well for me.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 19 August 2019 09:10 (four years ago) link
It’s wonderful, plays to both Swae Lee and Drake’s strengths.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
Hoping it will become a big (US/international) hit, to keep the Afropop momentum going.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 19 August 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Drake has no strengths :)but otherwise yes, very nice tune
― rob, Monday, 19 August 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
been trying to put together a nice afrobeats mix recently. but my first attempt ended up being a bit flabby, with about 70% drifting by, a little tame, lacking a bit of the fun and dynamicism of a previous mix I made, or how it feels when I mix dancehall and soca. there are some great tunes on it, but together they lack punch until I get to the faster stuff at the end. I guess it's my usual coming about (some) afrobeats, that it can sometimes be a bit smooth and lacking the bite of other styles. and a lot of rhythms are starting to sound like each other until, of course you get a curveball. I can't help feeling that the enormous wave of SA house kicked off by Sun El and co is starting to feel a bit like a glut, for example. I guess I'm really just asking where I can hear more bangers..
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 19 August 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
also I accidentally contaminated the mix with Drake which makes it a curate's egg
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 19 August 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link
I’m curious: what do you consider “glut” (glut, natural glut)? When it comes to SA I would have thought stuff like “Tshikwama” or “Umshado” might be right up your alley.Also I think this thread at least offers a variety of bangers of many different stripes.This brings out the bang in banger, for instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDSuBKrTLPkScrô Q Cuia ft. Nerú Americano • O PintinPerforming it live on Angolan TV.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 08:16 (four years ago) link
Or I could always post the next A-Star, guy is relentless, it’s hard to keep up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFMVEAdB2EsA-Star • Hypeman
Learn the dance routine.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 08:19 (four years ago) link
I am absolutely loving A-Star and Material Culture and Eazzy at the moment. Feel like that's the kind of stuff I most want to mix rather than the more warm-house and r'n'b inflected stuff
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link
do we cover much east african stuff ITT? I feel like with quite a few festivals like Nyege Nyege and Ongala taking place this summer, it's something I'd like to know more about
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
Music from East African countries is relatively underrepresented here, and it tends to be mainly the chart-oriented stuff by people like Diamond Platnumz and Rayvanny. However, there was a bit of singeli/Nyege Nyege Tapes discussion on the Rolling herky-jerky thread earlier this year, as mentioned upthread, and I posted a Jay Mitta track here - which is of course also featured on this Spotify playlist of most of the African stuff posted on various threads.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
https://www.nyegenyege.com/2019-artist-lineup/This is the lineup for the Nyege Nyege Festival, to be held in two weeks’ time. Dozens of names, of which I know only a few. Feel free to post interesting tracks!
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
ah cool. i was so keen to go to NN this year but it was a mission and i didn't go in the end, mch to my current disappointment
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
that line up looks intriguing even though i've heard of maybe 2% of it.
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQ9MRxm9UoMr Eazi ft. Simi • DoyinGlorious production by Killertunes
― breastcrawl, Friday, 23 August 2019 06:35 (four years ago) link
oh, there’s a video already:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBMredVuy7M
― breastcrawl, Friday, 23 August 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link
gorgeous
― big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 23 August 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
Not all that random Ghanaian highlife rap I’m loving:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsNCFKjB_x8NiiQuaye ft. Kirani Ayat & Akan • Twa Wonan Ase
― breastcrawl, Friday, 23 August 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link
This is fantastic. A Best of Flavour and Flavour-featuring songs would be so great:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie6HixFu_IEJay Fashion ft. Flavour • Ikuwago(what’s that kick-ass high-pitched instrument that plays during the chorus and is most clearly heard in the final 18 seconds?)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 24 August 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
(I guess it could be a distorted version of the traditional flute that Igbo musicians like Flavour sometimes use when they “take it to the village”)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 24 August 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
Two from Liberia:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO7KxEhzAdYKobazzie ft. Davido • Bounce (Remix)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbOEQklxDFsJSB ft. D. Pretty • Bluetooth
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 24 August 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
Obama has Rema’s Iron Man on his summer playlist, lol.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 25 August 2019 05:32 (four years ago) link
never catching up on the thread this year, but "Doyin" is lovely
a friend just told me Koffee is on there too. If he tweets about "Balloon" we'll know he's a lurker
― rob, Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
Koffee is on “Doyin”? Doing what? Backing vocals?HOWEVER, Killertunes has a 🎈in his Twitter bio, so I don’t know anymore...
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 25 August 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
koffee is on O's playlist i think rob mean
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 25 August 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link
aaah lolBarack BALLOON Obama
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 25 August 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
haha sorry that is what I meant, should have put an xp on that
― rob, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
a promoter friend is traveling through E Africa at the moment and heard this on the radio. It's brilliant
https://youtu.be/9VSz1gKlfmk
B Gway (et al) - Ndembe
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 22:46 (four years ago) link
weird'n'warpy Kenyan trip hop from Nah Eeto - Kichaa. This is from very late 2018 but there's a new album out soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZxDQM7gcRM
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link
That’s the spirit! Loving “Ndembe”, especially when it goes into overdrive during Sholo Mwamba’s section. (unfortunately, this remix is not on Spotify, so it’s the original version [minus Sholo] on the playlist. Still good!)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link
Still hardly any singeli “singles” on Spotify by the looks of it, but this is Sholo Mwamba’s most recent video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8enq4afCTqwSholo Mwamba • KimbiaThis one is from a year ago and sounds like a bit of a pop move: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWbDAHF-pUcSholo Mwamba • Anataka UmaLive scenes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ3OyRYryt8
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
As for BGway himself (who does have stuff on Spotify), he makes “trap mdundiko” rather than singeli.“Ndembe” seems his most exciting track by far, precisely because of the singeli injection, and there’s some bongo flava there as well, I think.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link
(just trying to school myself here, feel free to ignore)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 28 August 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
no it's interesting. I only recently learnt the terms singeli and bongo flava
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 23:29 (four years ago) link
Very sad news, I only learned about this today:DJ Arafat, a giant of coupé-decalé and one of the biggest stars of francophone Afropop (and beyond: he also worked with Nigerian artists like Davido and Yemi Alade, for instance) died two weeks ago in a motorcycle accident in Abidjan. He was 33. https://www.france24.com/en/20190831-ivorian-music-star-dj-arafat-gets-royal-send-off-with-grand-funeral-concertHis funeral was today. His life was celebrated with a stadium concert featuring performances of many fellow artists. Here’s (all?) seven hours of it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xld7GMoqKycHis most recent hit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuk8PdGKv9cDJ Arafat ft. Naza • Ventripotent
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
This one, from a year ago, is pretty damn awesome:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkpsWXpRmSYDJ Arafat • Pandou Koulé
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link
Horrible news.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 1 September 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
Hi all
Here's an thread-relevant mix I made over the weekend featuring a lot of songs ITT and from elsewhere. Tracklisting is partially complete as I need to wait till I get home tonight and check through my Serato history
https://soundcloud.com/charlieframedj/akrakabo-2019-more-afrobeats-pop-and-dance
Enjoy!
FOKN Bois - African HolidayJuls x Mr Eazi - CakeTiwa Savage - OneE.L. - EhuaRema - DumebiZero12Finest - Baby Are You Coming?A-Star - SolegeDJ Tunez x Busiswa - Majesty (Fuck It Up)Sefa - Suga
Mina x Bryte - SentahBryte x Busy Twist - HustlerA-Star x GuiltyBeatz - BogadaEazzy - AwayGoldlink x Maleek Berry x Bibi Bourelly - Zulu ScreamsMaterial Culture - NgenzanMina x Bryte - Make Money (SNØW Remix)Scró Q Cuia x Neru Americano - O PintinTshegue - The WheelPetrah - Tiaso
B-Gway ft Mesen Selekta - NdembeJay Mitta x Dogo Janja - Taitzo PesaNihiloxica - Kadodi
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 2 September 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link
I love Rema “Dumebi” . Great song
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
It’s been out since March, so I am a bit late.
https://www.thefader.com/2019/06/24/rema-dumebi-interview
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
There’s a Spanish version too
― curmudgeon, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
Didn’t know about that Spanish version, it’s fun!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuQiQFHgzDMJthyago x Oscar el Ruso x Samueliyo Baby x Irrita el Indio • Dumebi (Spanish version)Might as well post the Panamanian version of Skiibi’s “Sensima” too:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNN-TBgAD9AItalian Somali x Dubosky • Loco Fefo
― breastcrawl, Monday, 2 September 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
Dumebi is beautiful. I prefer it to Ma Lo
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 2 September 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
not Ma Lo, I meant Manya which it's loosely based on
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 2 September 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
“Ndembe” is so fucking good!
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 5 September 2019 07:47 (four years ago) link
I had to rip it from YouTube in the end cos the version I bought on Google Play was quite different and nowhere near as good
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
Is that the version I mentioned above with just G Nako that’s on Spotify? It’s not as singeli-larly spectacular, but still very good in its own right imo.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
In other news:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOoNEi8BlgMTiwa Savage • 49-99 (produced by Pheelz)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
re: Ndembe - it's not bad but the video version is jaw dropping in how it ramps up a gear every couple of bars. Goes from this loping reggaeish best to full throttle singeli in the course of 4 mins. The Spotify version is more straightforward rap / bongo flava
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link
totally agree, only your “not bad” is my “still very good in its own right”
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
Nigerian music writer Joey Akan profiles five Naija artists (Blaqbonez, Wavy the Creator, Fireboy DML, Odunsi and Teni) for the New York Times Style Magazine:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/t-magazine/nigerian-musicians-fireboy-dml-odunsi-the-engine.html(I note that, just like in his recent Burna Boy review for The Fader, he uses the term “Afrobeats” for his American audience. Guess we’re stuck with that one)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 6 September 2019 05:58 (four years ago) link
Been absent here due to major surgery a few weeks back, but saw this: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/world/africa/zimdancehall-the-music-that-moves-zimbabwes-uneasy-streets.html
Probably more appropriate for the dancehall thread, but an interesting read nonetheless...despite the music being a bit meh to my ears, the messages seem urgent, and sometimes that's enough.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 7 September 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
Hope you’re doing better, table!Don’t know much about the Zimbabwean scene, but this was one of my favourite jams of 2017:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFzDqKRb7zcExQ ft. Killer T • NhemaGoogleTranslate told me the lyrics are about haters telling lies. I was going to say it’s hard to read a line like “we are free spirits” as completely nonpolitical, but then I came across this.
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
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TNS has the Midas Touch as far as I’m concerned. “My Dali” and “Joburg” (with Mampinthsa) are two of the best tracks of the year. This is his latest - and there’s an album on the way:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVRbI2PjjogTNS ft. Mpumi • Umona
― breastcrawl, Monday, 9 September 2019 07:29 (four years ago) link
Nice low-key EP from Blackmagic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Busrs7LGwBlackmagic - BM19001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kzum0bAFZ4Blackmagic - BM19007
― vcrash, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
Just heard this on Eazzy's EP:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ8jNU1US2kEazzy - Away ft. Medikal
― vcrash, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
Away is so great
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
Ghetto love, made in Lagos.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 13 September 2019 07:59 (four years ago) link
So good:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSHff6H5WxcAVala • Mo Fe Be
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 14 September 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
Hugely enjoying the TNS album, Madlokovu: King of African House. All tracks are cut from the same cloth, but it’s such a great sound, so who cares? He’s like Heavy K in that respect, similar penchant for high-drama euphoric rave synths as well. Choice cut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlmVt4QZhPgTNS ft. Stunner • My Rules
― breastcrawl, Friday, 20 September 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link
Oh, and try bonus track “Ayabonga”for a darker twist, not unlike Mampintsha’s “Joburg”.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 20 September 2019 17:18 (four years ago) link
Next new Wizkid.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
The video for A-Star's "Hypeman" came out a few weeks back. It's his weakest track and also his most WTF video— the Chinese stuff and the happy mugging with the cop kind of gave me a super icked out vibe.
will still stan for "Bogada" being my favorite track of the year, tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp5GVn-W5Uk
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
Bogada is so good. Afrobeats EOY poll anyone?
I'm seeing Nihiloxica tonight as an early birthday fun thing. I'm mad excited
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 08:32 (four years ago) link
Happy birthday, dog latin! How was/were Nihiloxica? An Afropop EOY poll would be fun, but I’m not sure we have the numbers for that? How many people would participate, realistically speaking?
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 3 October 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link
They were amazing, quite frankly. As good as you'd expect. Started loud, but were clearly hustling for the first 2-3 songs before bringing out the big guns. Total devastation
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 3 October 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
Maybe we could do a mini-poll. Get everyone to nominate 3-5 songs each ITT and then poll em in a separate thread?
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 3 October 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
That could work, I think. “Dumebi” will doubtlessly score big in any poll format, but here’s Another Banger for yall’s consideration:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrxV6Me604Rema • Lady(from his brand new EP, which sounds very good on first listen)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 4 October 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link
New Reekado is another beauty:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rLSi6m2Ll4Reekado Banks • Rora It’s produced by (Along came...) Tuzi, one of my favourite up and coming Naija producers, simultaneously old-school inspired and a little freaky. He’s got one monster hit under his belt already (Skiibii’s “Sensima”), but I also love this non-hit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vW-y6QYt3wTeeQ Bello • Happy People
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 6 October 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link
More beauty:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3etaIUzTe1oBuju ft. Zlatan • Spiritual(This spellbinding song screams for an equally hypnotizing video. Don’t know what’s keeping them)
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 6 October 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
Loving the new Rema. Lady is the best track but it's all good. He has really found his own style.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 10 October 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
digging this ep by kabza de small & dj maphorisa almost as much as its cover lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_5q-MiHF9I
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 11 October 2019 07:30 (four years ago) link
i could be wrong since i still don't follow this stuff anywhere near as much as i'd like to but it seems like pretty much anything dj maphorisa touches is gold lately
― ufo, Friday, 11 October 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link
Well, make that Kabza. It’s good to see him gettting top billing this time, in a reversal of Scorpion Kings. It’s his sound, not Maphorisa’s. My favourite track on this is “Nana Thula” with Njelic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBh-oPXY03k
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 October 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link
Also, wow at this: Kabza De Small & DJ Maphorisa ft. Corry Da Groove & Howard • Tears
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 October 2019 10:36 (four years ago) link
Amapiano and Larry Heard, one step removed.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 October 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link
And in another overlap with the Sun-El thread, uptempo Samthing sounds great too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1eIvbA_DvEMuzi ft. Samthing Soweto • Mncane(from Muzi’s new album Zeno)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 October 2019 10:39 (four years ago) link
Mo’ amapiano:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpD50mJlS_wSemi Tee ft. Miano & Kammu Dee • Labantwana Ama Uber
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link
Some gqom:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9bGITkIHmMSho Madjozi • John Cena
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link
And yes, I will keep stanning for anything TNS:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP8FLR4mnxUTipcee ft. TNS • EmatarvenTipcee doing it live.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
And since it’s South African Friday: Prince Kaybee’s new Crossover Music EP (Kabza’s title is better lol) is damn good. Stellar SA house.“Ndimlo” with Nhlanhla Ncizais the song that’s being pushed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYUGwU888r4“Monasi” with Indlovukazi might be my favourite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCHjqx_zHcc
― breastcrawl, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
Crossover Music is sounding really nice. calling it an EP seems kinda odd though when it's 45 minutes and 8 tracks (counting the Ndimlo edit as a bonus track)
― ufo, Saturday, 12 October 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link
Listening to Yemi Alade Woman of Steel album. Sounds good on first listen, not sure if I hear anything great yet. Need to listen some more
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 October 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link
Did you manage to identify a standout track, curmudgeon? I found the Yemi album very underwhelming myself and I never returned to it. Should I?
― breastcrawl, Monday, 14 October 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
However, I’ve been really enjoying Lady Donli’s album Enjoy Your Life. The two EPs she released prior to this were Alté/Nigerian alternative R&B (D-40 included the first one, by far the best of the two, in his best of 2010s list), but this album is 15 (short) tracks of retro afrobeat (nu afrobeat?). “Corner” (ft. VanJess & The Cavemen) is my jam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w6iFVQZ70EThe title track is a standout as well. “Cash” is the only track with an official video (the Corner one is fan-made): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ipvwmNh0F8
― breastcrawl, Monday, 14 October 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
xps to ufoufo, even Scorpion Kings - 12 tracks, 76 minutes - is marketed as an EP (check the artwork). Like “mixtape” before it this term seems to be losing all distinctive meaning vis-à-vis “album” (in the SA context at least).
― breastcrawl, Monday, 14 October 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
Another strong and short but sweet track: “Agbani” by sometime Lady Donli collaborator Bella Alubo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhzajBCMdPwThere is a remix with Zlatan that has it charms as well. Her Re-Bella EP that came out last December is good.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link
Still no video for “Spiritual”, but I checked back on Buju’s previous output, he dropped about ten songs in the past two years. Quality stuff. Loving this one a lot:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GgJzcGBocYBuju • Energy
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 17 October 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link
killer haul breastcrawl! Will be digging into that Prince Kaybee. 'Mncane' is gorgeous.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
A lot more fun and captivating than his previous one with Chris Brown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9H3iinXZv0Davido ft. Popcaan • Risky
(a SperoachBeatz production)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
Not hearing any great cut on latest Yemi Alade btw
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 October 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
sweet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L74D8r1YlxE
CKAY - WAY FT. DJ LAMBO
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:04 (four years ago) link
they keep pulling the maphorisa songs off youtube so apologies if this one was already posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wguSRJ4ju18
TallArseTee Ft Kabza De Small x Dj Maphorisa - Gibela
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 08:38 (four years ago) link
i know amaarae has been posted before but her solo song is something else ... instant year end lister?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai0RgtrRGSY
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link
*new solo song
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link
Rema is incredible
― Musaique, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link
Yes, he is damn good!
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link
And yes, that Amaarae track is wonderful!The CKay is nice, although I’m not sure the Beethoven riff really adds anything to it.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link
TallArseTee is an amapiano legend for “Bamb’ikhanda” alone. The EP“Gibela” is from is not on Spotify yet, but this amazing track is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v92N4TuUHPYTallArseTee x Mark Khoza ft. Kwela Tebza, Entity Musiq & Bontle Smith • Nine/9
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link
btw, D-40, how do you rate the Lady Donli album?
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link
Labantwana Ama Uber ('kids of the uber') is everywhere in South Africa, such an addictive song. Akulaleki is maybe the biggest hit that cuts across the population. Amapiano gets played at ridiculous volumes in Braam.
― Nabozo, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
The full-length “Labantwana Ama Uber” is upthread, but here’s a fun live performance on SA TV:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahET6AVE6v8For Samthing & Sha Sha’s “Akulaleki” (and lots more in that vein) check the Sun-El and sundry thread.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
More Mzansi magic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ripp4yHBdwCuebur ft. DJ Maphorisa & ShaSha • Tamba(the amount of awesome music coming out of South Africa is overwhelming, almost literally)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:54 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
definitely into it, want to spend more time though before i weigh in
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 31 October 2019 07:25 (four years ago) link
cool
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 31 October 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link
She just got a big feature in fader btw
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 31 October 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
https://www.thefader.com/2019/10/31/lady-donli-enjoy-your-life-interviewInteresting, and it’s by Joey Akan.
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
Niniola back with Sarz:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCxEvJR5DngNiniola • Omo Rapala
― breastcrawl, Friday, 1 November 2019 06:10 (four years ago) link
Lusophone Afro House - this time from Mozambique, not Angola:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyQp9MXwEFgDJ Cisne ft. Os do Momento • Feiticeiro
― breastcrawl, Friday, 1 November 2019 06:53 (four years ago) link
I've had Omo Rapala on repeat this morning. Niniola is unstoppable. You could argue that someone like Tiwa is the better artist, but Niniola is the one that somehow manages to hit my sweet spot every single time. Boda Sodiq has kept growing on me ever since it first dropped.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 1 November 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link
Sha Sha/ShaSha’s Blossom EP is fantastic. I’m plugging it over on the Sun-El thread because it fits better there, but this track is a great companion piece to the Niniola:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPJ_rhv0uuwSha Sha • Water
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 November 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
Spent more time finally w the lady donli and I really do love it. She has great musical range. I feel like I need to do my homework on her influences
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 3 November 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link
This is lovely:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRZBuz5dAM0Supta ft. Indlovukazi & Prince Kaybee • Tsa Tsa
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
(plus it kicks ass)
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 3 November 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
This year’s Naija pop distilled into one song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9A0fQu28GkMayorkun • Up To Something
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 3 November 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
That’s a good one. Also liking that Lady Donli album
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link
Another Guilty Banger:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POQvDT4PjD8Pappy Kojo • Thomasy3yaw
― breastcrawl, Friday, 15 November 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
This is also from Ghana, and pretty awesome:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsL8i6gEX0IFokn Bois ft. Mr Eazi • True FriendsA little bit of background:https://pan-african-music.com/en/fokn-bois-true-friends-2/(nice to have this back to back with the Amaarae video D-40 posted)
― breastcrawl, Friday, 15 November 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
Wonderful highlife pop from Simi:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFK7v_-tkEUSimi • Selense
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 16 November 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjCVx8i2PCA
For the appetite for French in this thread. Good DRC-stamped lovers song. Sounds so close to Aka Nakamura.
― Nabozo, Sunday, 17 November 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link
I love Simi. So pop, so nice, yet so hypnotic and complex.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 17 November 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link
More stuff from the francosphere is definitely welcome!(btw, for searching purposes and suchlike, the track in question is “Katchua” by Ya Levis)
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:26 (four years ago) link
Your daily dose of Nini:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Nmf_ul9FIYcee ft. Niniola • Chocolata
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
I love FOKN BOIS
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
This hardly ever happens: an East African jam blowing up in West Africa, but this track from Uganda is currently top 10 streaming in Naija and Ghana:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMfMuZ9fjjIBigTril • Parte After Parte
― breastcrawl, Friday, 22 November 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link
Love it
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Friday, 22 November 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link
I'm thinking of putting on an afrobeats DJ night, possibly focusing on contemporary pop, dance and more out-there sounds from around Africa, potentially incorporating modern music from other parts of the world too if it feels right. Having difficulty knowing how to label and market the idea though. I know the term 'afrobeats' comes with baggage, or applies specifically to Nigerian and Ghanian music for a lot of people. Plus I'm wary of lumping lots of countries into one genre. There are a lot of 'world dance' music nights in Bristol, but they tend to focus on vintage vinyly stuff (actual afrobeat, cumbia etc) than new electronic and pop vibes. What would be the most succinct and polite way of putting it? A friend told me that he and his mate used to refer to it as 'global wreckage' for whatever reason!
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Friday, 22 November 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link
I'm really enjoying the Davido album. Such a nice vibe.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 23 November 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
Global wreckage does sound catchy fwiw.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:34 (four years ago) link
davido album is indeed lovely, glad to see it get some recognition from p4k too
― ufo, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZBsYtLsT_w
anybody heard of this guy sonyjojo? i believe he's nigerian. this song "monicar" is awesome... it sounds like someone took a wizkid song and kinda smeared it with their hand a bit. the production is really cool.
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 30 November 2019 07:22 (four years ago) link
it took me a week of it idly bugging me but i realised davido's "1 milli" rips its synth line from dua lipa's "be the one"
― ufo, Sunday, 1 December 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
Anyone seeing end of year lists that include Afropop? Was hoping Burna Boy might crossover to some, but haven’t really noticed that. A twitter search of “Burna Boy top 2019” did bring me to a list of top south of the Sahara streamed songs, that included him.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
I'm seeing burna in best of album collections but that's about it.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
Jazz & more critic Ted Gioa has a 100 album list and then a follow -up 100 honorable mention list. Burna Boy is on the honorable mention list!
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link
NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
Yep. Ok, Amanda Petrusich has Burna Boy ( & Mdou Moctar) in her New Yorker top album list
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link
pretty banner year for afrobeats on my best songs list (comin monday)
― sean gramophone, Friday, 6 December 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
Colour me curious. I always enjoy your EOY lists a lot.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 7 December 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link
New Afro B single (from Afrowave 3). My favorite since Melanin, I think:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8K3onYQ44o
― daavid, Monday, 9 December 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
Here is sean gramophone’s list, if I may be so bold, and below are the songs on it that are relevant to our thread:(3) Sarkodie ft. Akan • All Die Be Die(16) Zlatan • This Year(34) Niniola • Boda Sodiq(42) Blick Bassy • Where We Go(45) A-Star • Solege(49) Afro B ft. Wizkid • Drogba (Joanna) (Remix)(51) Beyoncé • Find Your Way Back(61) Tresor ft. Msaki • Sondela(69) Mahalia ft. Burna Boy • Simmer(77) Fireboy DML • Jealous(80) Santi ft. Shane Eagle, Tomi Agape & Amaarae • Rapid Fire(88) J Balvin & Bad Bunny ft. Mr Eazi • Como Un BebéHuge overlap with These Threads, it has to be said (down to the Niniola recording session video!). Synchronicity?(small point of order: A-Star is Ghanaian (by way of London iirc), it’s “Solege”s beatmaker Kel-P who’s Nigerian - he also produced “Boda Sodiq”!)Looking forward to exploring the rest of your list, Sean!
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
haha, no synchronicity! ilx is one of my primary discovery nexuses (nexi?)
thanks for the A-Star correction - i correctly attributed him in the demographics, i think - but you're right the blurb is confusing
and thanks for all the recommendations this year and every year
― sean gramophone, Thursday, 12 December 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
just had to stop in to say Umona is my jam, TNS is really killing it this year.
Joburg is nice too but fuck Mamphi.
― Will (kruezer2), Saturday, 14 December 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
agreed on all counts
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 14 December 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link
Half my favorite tracks are from Burna BoyAnd still Wizkid can claim to have the biggest hit with Brown Skin GirlFollowed by Low btwInama is so funSolegeA few others
And then it just pales comapred to what's on the Mzansi sideAkulalekiThe entire Sha Sha EPThe sound of Kabza de SmallLabantwana Ama Uber SondelaInto IngaweBaby Are You Coming ?John Cena (+ best video)Joburg
― Nabozo, Sunday, 15 December 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
ad “John Cena”: are you referring to the COLORS video?I was aware of some kind of hype around it, but never investigated, mainly because the name ‘John Cena’ meant nothing to me. This is pretty wild though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElRhKFvQWGA
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 15 December 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
Yeah I was, she's hilarious in that clip. Chichichi chi chi chi. Though I heard a few bad things from people who got close to her via videomaking - but hey, celebrity is a burden to carry. I had no more idea about wrestling than you, but yeah her reaction is priceless.
― Nabozo, Monday, 16 December 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
...all of the above tying in nicely with her brand new video for the Shangaan Shake that is “Kona”, celebrating the first anniversary of her debut album (which I will consider a 2019 release for EOY purposes):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jkXL_TMEigSho Madjozi • Kona
― breastcrawl, Monday, 16 December 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link
As I mentioned on the “Baby Are You Coming?” thread, DJ Sumbody’s Ashi Nthwela album is awesome. The new single/video is “4 The Kulture” with Busiswa, but right now I find myself drawn much more to the pop sheen of “Mabebeza” (with Mthe): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_oDr9vGDuE
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link
"john cena" is cool and all but i love "kano", will have to check out the album
― ufo, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 11:56 (four years ago) link
Kabza* is truly unstoppable** right now. A 15-track (!) sequel to Scorpion Kings, one of the year’s best, is out already, called, who’d have thunk, The Return of the Scorpion Kings. Besides Piano Hub he also dropped an officially solo, instrumentals-only, mixtape, Pretty Girls Love Amapiano in the meantime, which is very good as well.This is Return’s breakout hit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DR1HuRiAAAKabza De Small x DJ Maphorisa ft. Semi Tee, Miano & Kammu Dee • Lorch“Sandton” with Focalistic, Kamo Mphela & Bontle Smith is another certified banger. There’s tracks with Samthing and Mlindo (and Hugh Masekela!) as well. *to be read as “Kabza De Small & DJ Maphorisa” for contractual reasons
― breastcrawl, Monday, 23 December 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link
**as for his unstoppableness, the following are the Kabza-produced tracks in today’s South African streaming top 10:#1 Lorch#4 Akulaleki (with Samthing & Sha Sha)#6 Love You Tonight (with MFR Souls & Sha Sha)#7 Nana Thula#9 Tender Love (with Sha Sha)#10 SandtonAnd these are the top ranking Kabza-heavy albums in SA today, again as per Apple Music:#1 The Return of the Scorpion Kings#2 Isphithiphithi (Samthing Soweto)#3 Blossom (Sha Sha)#11 Scorpion Kings#12 Piano HubAnd this is not a temporary glitch, it’s been like this consistently for the past few weeks.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 23 December 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
Okay, Lorch is mindblowingly great, almost on the level of Akulaleki. This is becoming like when DJ Mustard was in his prime.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link
Happy holidays everybody!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCZVL_8D048Master KG ft. Nomcebo • Jerusalem
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link
Don’t forget to nominate all your goodies (tracks + albums) for the EOY!
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
Nothing says Christmas like Angolan KudurAfro House. It’s the most wonderful sound in the world!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2RAmMIfQAPink 2 Toques • Puxa a Calça(check here if you’d like to see them pulling up their pants live)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV9yrBWRURINoite & Dia • Kapotahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18OXY3lBo-YNerú Americano ft. Scró Q Cuia • Tic Taahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMl057tB1IwScró Q Cuia ft. Os Moikanos • Oiii Mana (a/k/a “Ai Meu Deus”)...and this one, have mercy on me:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rraVVk7iDq4Os Pilukas ft. ED-Sangria • Tá Tremer(the last three of these are produced by the magnificent DJ Vado Pôster)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 26 December 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
...or you could just watch this, which features most of the above:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxhqRR0R2vg
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 26 December 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link
(between these and “Jerusalema” I think I’ve got the festive spirit covered)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 26 December 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
(and it’s “Tá Treme”, apologies)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 26 December 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
Still loving Rema “Dumebi “ . A track of the year
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 29 December 2019 01:32 (four years ago) link
Otm
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 29 December 2019 04:10 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzzNAMU5eWY
recently discovered "this is love" by lady zamar and it's lovely and quickly becoming one of my favourites this year. gorgeous south african house
the album it's from, monarch, is very good too, just way too long at 20 tracks/90 minutes
― ufo, Monday, 30 December 2019 02:12 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it’s definitely overly long, and without enough stand-outs imo. Fwiw, the other tracks I saved to my playlist at the time were “ICU”, “Delirium” and “Sharp Shooter”.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 30 December 2019 08:54 (four years ago) link
https://www.jonathanbogart.net/blog/100-songs-2019
He's got Afropop, caribbean sounds, Latinx reggaeton, US & UK and more
1. Seyi Shay ft. Runtown, “Gimme Love”; 2. Bad Bunny ft. Tainy, “Callaíta”; 3. Titica ft. Laton Cordeiro, “Giro Na Bicicleta”; 4. Lady Zamar, “This Is Love”;5. Tomasa del Real, “Contigo”;
― curmudgeon, Monday, 30 December 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
Anybody made Obama's YE list
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 30 December 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link
Obama has Burna Boy "Anybody," Rema "Iron Man," and Angelique Kidjo " La Vida es un Carnaval" ( Rollo Tomasi remix)" and Jamaican vocalist Koffee "Toast" on his list
― curmudgeon, Monday, 30 December 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link
Go Obama lol! As for Jonathan Bogart’s list, it’s a super interesting one. I don’t know two thirds of the songs, but it looks right up my alley. I recognise quite a lot in the way he describes his musical proclivities in the introduction as well. However, **butthurt corner and full disclosure**, I soured on Bogart big time after the blurb he (of all people, as the only Afropop aficionado there at the time) wrote in the Singles Jukebox for my Reader’s Week entry for Tekno’s “Duro” back in 2015. I found it shockingly bad and pretty much disqualifying for a music critic. This was his blurb: ”Jonathan Bogart: Blame it on me being an old straight white dude who has rarely been in the market for what young loverboy crooners are selling; blame it on my having heard way too much recent West African pop that sounds practically indistinguishable from this; blame it on the YouTube commenters bringing up Chris Brown again and again. [4]”I thought it impolite to directly address it, being a guest on the site (and I was too fucking insecure anyway, I hadn’t even written a blurb for the song myself like I could have), and left it at a general comment.Interestingly, in his introduction here he more or less repeats the same argument and expands on it (which is why I felt the need to write this), but now it’s framed in a positive, dare I say it, half-baked woke kind of way, which I can’t help but find a bit disingenious.He does have a Tekno song in his list this time around though (as well as some other male cis het crooners!), I’ll give him that.**end of butthurt section / axe grinded**Anyway, diving headlong into the list as we speak - it really is a treat.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 30 December 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
Here’s that number one on JB’s list:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0ligX9PupISeyi Shay ft. Runtown • Gimme Love(it’s a Sarz production; she currently has a remix out with Teyana Taylor instead of Runtown)
― breastcrawl, Monday, 30 December 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
yeah bogart's list has been pretty interesting to go through - there's enough overlap with stuff i loved that didn't really get much attention from anywhere but with plenty of great tracks i hadn't heard too ("this is love" among them)
― ufo, Monday, 30 December 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link
this mix still goeshttps://soundcloud.com/djabrantee/sets/afrobeats-mix-vol-1
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Thought the Tekno (Bogart’s #71) had been posted here, but no:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KErqMcZR0KATekno • Skeletun
(lol at the idea of Tekno being some kind of left-field artist tho)
Also loving this Ugandan jam from that list. Let’s rock down to Swangz Avenue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROqYa4F1DvsVinka • Kona (Oluyimba Lwomwaka)
For true heads only: In a bizarre plot twist, it’s none other than Inna doing her bit for Afropop!
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link
(I’m hoping to start the 2020 thread this weekend, after the nominations are done and dusted)
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link
I made a new thread.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:13 (four years ago) link