THE HOUSE OF SUN-EL: Sun-El Musician, Simmy, Mlindo The Vocalist, and other related artists

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the album to follow-up board favourite single Akanamali is out and it's all gorgeous afro-house in the same vein. one of my favourite pop albums so far this year

ufo, Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Akanamali was by far my favorite discovery from the year-end poll, will definitely check this out.

bhad gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Probably as good a place as any to put this, which I've never seen mentioned on ILM

omar little, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:02 (one year ago) Permalink

wait is this on the album too?

omar little, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Ubala is really excellent, one of his best though it's not on the album

ufo, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:04 (one year ago) Permalink

never mind it's on a mix he put out with the same name:

omar little, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:04 (one year ago) Permalink

album tracklist:
1. With You (feat. Desiree Dawson)
2. Akanamali (feat. Samthing Soweto)
3. Sengimoja
4. Life We Live (feat. Les-Ego & Nontu X)
5. No Stopping Us (feat. S-Tone)
6. Goodbye (feat. DJ Charl & Lelo Kamau)
7. Umalukatane (feat. S-Tone)
8. Sonini (feat. Simmy & Lelo Kamau)
9. Ntaba Ezikude (feat. Simmy)
10. Random
11. The Wave
12. Bamthathile (feat. Mlindo the Vocalist)
13. Yere Faga (feat. Oumou Sangaré) [Sun–El Musician Remix]

ufo, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:07 (one year ago) Permalink

if there is even 1 song on here that's half as good as sonini then this'll probably be my favorite album of the year

brendon urine (diamonddave85), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:16 (one year ago) Permalink

super excited for this, but it doesn't seem particularly available yet? (at least in Canada)

rob, Thursday, 19 April 2018 17:40 (one year ago) Permalink

it's out on the 20th digitally (which it is here) but when I posted this thread I thought it had been released digitally a few days ago since it seems to have gotten a surprise physical release then in South Africa

ufo, Thursday, 19 April 2018 23:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh, lol, it's in Denmark as well now. I don't think they accounted for summer time.

Frederik B, Friday, 20 April 2018 00:15 (one year ago) Permalink

excited to hear this! "akanamali" is still achingly beautiful

dyl, Friday, 20 April 2018 03:16 (one year ago) Permalink

I really love the interplay between the scatting vocals and the brass on Sengimoja

ufo, Friday, 20 April 2018 05:10 (one year ago) Permalink

this album is exactly what i could've hoped for, about an hour of songs that scratch the same itch as akanamali

bhad gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 April 2018 23:23 (one year ago) Permalink

been looking forward to this, haven't heard it yet

Dan S, Friday, 20 April 2018 23:49 (one year ago) Permalink

really quite impressed on first listen. the back half might be my favorite, with the two purely instrumental cuts toward the end being big highlights, "the wave" in particular.

"akanamali" really deserved to conquer the world. as much as i hate to keep singling it out for praise, it deserves all of it and more.

dyl, Saturday, 21 April 2018 02:50 (one year ago) Permalink

for whatever reason the follow-up single to "akanamali", "bamthathile", has not clicked with me tho

dyl, Saturday, 21 April 2018 02:52 (one year ago) Permalink

oh man i love bamthathile. loving this so far

Heez, Saturday, 21 April 2018 03:03 (one year ago) Permalink

This is great.

Tim F, Sunday, 22 April 2018 01:30 (one year ago) Permalink

good timing for summer around the corner

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 22 April 2018 05:15 (one year ago) Permalink

what a good album

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 April 2018 13:45 (one year ago) Permalink

god bless a record that goes out of its way to make me feel like i'm on a boat

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 April 2018 13:51 (one year ago) Permalink

aw :)

Yeah, this album is really good.

Frederik B, Sunday, 22 April 2018 15:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Hate to make this comparison, but some of this sounds like an Innervisions release or something I expect Dixon to be remixing.

But yeah, enjoying this a lot anyway.

MikoMcha, Monday, 23 April 2018 08:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Haha yeah I remember Culoe de Song’s early stuff sounded a lot like this.

Tim F, Monday, 23 April 2018 08:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Nothing off this has stood out as much as Akanamali, which is a one-in-a-million amazing song, but it's neat so far.

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:29 (one year ago) Permalink

If you ever get to go on a sunset drive down the motorway, whack that song tout-de-suite

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:30 (one year ago) Permalink

this is amazing

Nourry, Monday, 23 April 2018 22:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Okay so I still think Akanamali is a unique piece of work that towers over p much everything here. About 50% of the rest of this sounds like passable vocal house and doesn't really interest me. I definitely prefer the stuff that's more obviously African/South African styling but I need to listen a few more times.

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 08:46 (one year ago) Permalink

It may be classic vocal house, but I like its light-luminous-breezy character so imo it compares favorably to classic house (a genre I've only brushed admittedly). Akanamali will likely remain the crowd favorite, but the rest is really consistent and agreeable, with some glorious layers and a great sense of melody. I haven't bought a CD in ages, but I'd buy this to play it in the car yeah. Impressive debut.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 10:45 (one year ago) Permalink

I'll say it's a bit unfortunate to open with With You given some of the tracks that follow, it'd have made more sense to have Simmy instead of the American accent of that Canadian chick. I'm also questioning it because the latter part of the album (from Sonini to Bamthathile) sounds so strong to me, though I can't complain about Akanamali - No Stopping Us - Goodbye.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 11:05 (one year ago) Permalink

If you like Akanamali, this one is for sure the closest

Nabozo, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 11:29 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm kinda addicted to 'Sengimoja' and 'Goodbye'.

Nourry, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 11:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Nabozo OTM. With You is kind of hedging its bets, but overall it's a pleasant (sometimes erring on the safe/generic side) listen. The last part of the album is much more like it as far as I care so far. This'll make great BBQ music whatever happens

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:13 (one year ago) Permalink

With You is one of the weaker tracks but it's still nice for the vocal loop that comes in at the end.

ufo, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Sengimoja is the one.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 19:18 (one year ago) Permalink

I was listening to Sonsini and thinking how amazing it would be to be dancing to this song at sunrise and then the soft rock guitar came in and just slayed me. That one might actually be better than Akanamali.

The rest of this album = let vibes be unconfined.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 08:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Sonini slightly reminds me of Time is Over (for sheer technoish sky-suspended brilliance). Qamata sonini.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 12:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Okay I listened to the whole album twice while driving this morning and it's really growing on me. Still not a big fan of the first track but the rest is wonderful. Definitely great in the right context

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:08 (one year ago) Permalink

since I rinsed Akanamali last year, I find starting on track 3 works really well

rob, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:27 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Testing the waters with the Sun-El fandom: I posted this slightly trippy SA gem on the Afropop thread, but over there no one’s biting.

Zinaro ft. JB (of Thee Legacy) & Dust, “Dali Wami”

breastcrawl, Thursday, 10 May 2018 10:51 (one year ago) Permalink

As for the S-EM album, “No Stopping Us”, which didn’t do much for me when it dropped in February alongside “Bamthathile”, really shines in the album context. It wears its generic Robin Schulziness extremely well.

breastcrawl, Thursday, 10 May 2018 10:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Every English-language voice on this is kind of unwelcome even when the music is amazing - that first track is a case in point, when she drifts into the background and the vocal loops come in it's completely sublime but before that nah.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 11:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Agree on “With You” (but it’s as much the melody and the vocal itself as the English) and maybe “Life We Live”, but I’m fine with the English on “No Stopping Us” and “Goodbye”. NSU feels to me like an open invitation to play Janelle’s “Screwed” next.

breastcrawl, Thursday, 10 May 2018 12:18 (one year ago) Permalink

is there a way of buying this album without having to go via iTunes? I don't want a stupid iTunes format file, I want an MP3 or pref a FLAC/WAV?

Hire Planes (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:23 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't know if it's available digitally in FLAC/WAV anywhere but Google Play has it in 320 mp3

ufo, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:06 (one year ago) Permalink

“Sonini”, the track with Simmy and Lelo Kamau, is the new single and has a video to go with it:

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:57 (one year ago) Permalink

i think that's my second favourite after Akanamali

Hire Planes (dog latin), Thursday, 24 May 2018 08:20 (one year ago) Permalink

The entire run from Sonini to the end is absolutely faultless and glorious.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 May 2018 10:09 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm looking forward to this being my sunny road trip album this summer

dyl, Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Cool, thanks a bunch! If you do manage to find it, just email me at tuomast DOT alho AT gmail DOT com (yes, it's "tuomast" with a "t" in the end) and I'll pay for you for everything.

Tuomas, Thursday, 31 January 2019 08:04 (four months ago) Permalink

Will do!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 31 January 2019 08:21 (four months ago) Permalink

ufo, how do you feel about changing the thread title? You started this thread after all. Are you okay with it?

And what should the new title be? Keep it basic and just add “ + Simmy - Tugela Fairy”, or expand it a little?

I was thinking of “THE HOUSE OF SUN-EL: Sun-El Musician, Simmy, Mlindo The Vocalist, and other related artists”
(most of the Mlindo talk has been on the Rolling thread, but it would be a good fit obviously - and Samthing Soweto has an album coming out soon too, as someone mentioned on the roll out thread)

Or we could just go for “Sun-El and Simmy-lar stuff” lol

Any thoughts?

breastcrawl, Thursday, 31 January 2019 08:30 (four months ago) Permalink

changing the title to include Simmy seems like a sensible idea and i'm all for it, but if we want a thread to encompass the broader scene then maybe making a new rolling south african pop thread to encompass this stuff as well as gqom etc. would be a good idea? that's up to you though, since that'd be splitting off from the afropop thread where that discussion's mostly taken place up until now.

ufo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:20 (four months ago) Permalink

I think this is a decent sleeper shout to top the albums poll this year, there are a lot of records that are in with a shout but the love this one generates is huge.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:40 (four months ago) Permalink

anyway with the title change, here's "Mobi Dixon - Abantu ft. Samthing Soweto". going to have to check out Mobi Dixon's album from last year based on this, it's very upbeat afrohouse

ufo, Thursday, 31 January 2019 09:45 (four months ago) Permalink

Cool! I actually like that this thread is kind of limited in scope. In a perfect ILM world we would have separate Rolling South African, Rolling Nigerian, Rolling Ghanaian, Rolling East African, etc etc threads, but with the current level of participation/enthusiasm being what it is, one catch-all Rolling Afropop thread is enough imho. We do branch out a bit when necessary with things like the Wizkid and Burna threads anyway (and with this one obviously).

breastcrawl, Thursday, 31 January 2019 10:31 (four months ago) Permalink

like the new thread title

the mobi dixon track is really nice, reminds me a lot of mj though i'm not sure why. i like pretty much everything that comes out of this scene, even though i tend to be hit and miss on afrobeats in general

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:37 (four months ago) Permalink

Useful (and possibly overlooked) post by kruezer2 on the Top 77 Tracks rollout thread:

"akanamali" definitely crossed over from tsj. the discussion on his album's thread has been reasonably active all year so i think simmy's music must have come up there quite shortly after being released, no tsj-acclaim needed.

"amablesser" was nominated btw, so it could still make it! (tho honestly i doubt it would place above "ubala" et al.) i nominated it but didn't end up having room for it on my ballot lol.

"banomoya" might be my favorite of all the songs i hadn't heard before from this poll so the post upthread stating that it was a big hit in south africa tells me that i should probably just start listening to south african radio already

― dyl, Thursday, January 31, 2019 12:30 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

“AmaBlesser” was a big pop hit there too (just like “Akanamali” itself, the other Sun-El singles did very well too). The Mlindo and Simmy albums are both currently top 10 streaming in SA. It’s actual popular music. Finding the right radio station would be a treat, no doubt!


― breastcrawl, Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:51 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i listen to a couple durban stations online at times. try Ukhozi 90.8 FM or Gagasi 99.5. i don't know any stations in Joburg or Capetown though.

― Will (kruezer2), donderdag 31 januari 2019 15:43 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

breastcrawl, Saturday, 2 February 2019 02:33 (four months ago) Permalink

Like most people, I have a bunch of playlists where I park stuff as I find it, themed playlists, on the go yadda yadda - all that 'halfway house' shit that has cropped up since streaming. This stuff is having quite the effect on me and I don't know where to put it: I kind of want an exclusive 'light caught in a slow falling drop of moisture as the sun comes out after a rain shower' micro-playlist. 'Ubala' is fucking perfect.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Saturday, 2 February 2019 11:14 (four months ago) Permalink

Tugela Fairy is just heaven. Wish I could have put in a vote for it.

jmm, Saturday, 2 February 2019 22:25 (four months ago) Permalink

^^this. Umahlalela made it onto my singles ballot but didn't have time to check out the rest of the album - would definitely have voted for it if I had it.

Roz, Sunday, 3 February 2019 06:01 (four months ago) Permalink

did not realise until now that DJ Maphorisa co-produced Drake's "One Dance" lol

ufo, Sunday, 3 February 2019 11:31 (four months ago) Permalink

this is a really lovely track "Linda" from Sjava who is featured on Mlindo's "Egoli" and was also on the Black Panther soundtrack, it's similar to Mlindo's music but with sun-drenched sax the whole way through

currently listening to his album from December Umqhele and it's alright but he has a tendency to let tracks go on for far longer than they really need to and i definitely prefer the chill r&b tracks to the relatively generic trap ones

ufo, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 10:38 (four months ago) Permalink

Mobi Dixon's album 10 Steps Forward is really great on first listen. it starts off in smooth SA house territory with the 9 minute title track (above) which is a real highlight, and tracks like an extended mix of "Abantu" (linked earlier), before moving into harder-hitting gqom for the middle of the album

ufo, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 13:05 (four months ago) Permalink

Sjava interview on the Fader starts out with a o_O

You just dropped an album about a month ago, how has it been?

I think people like it. But I didn’t like it. It’s the label that decided to drop it. I was not ready.

Are you serious?

I think it’s the whackest thing I’ve ever done.

rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:32 (four months ago) Permalink

lol omg. i'll def have to listen

"one dance" is a good song!

dyl, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 05:12 (four months ago) Permalink

Proudly presenting the brand new Prince Kaybee. It’s a bit of a throwback to the sound of his first album, so it actually fits on this thread:

Prince Kaybee ft. Msaki • Fetch Your Life

breastcrawl, Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:15 (four months ago) Permalink

was listening to Sjava and I realized I recognized his voice from the Black Panther soundtrack. The song he's on "Reasons," has a couple of American rappers on it, but it seems like Sjava's is the dominant style:

simmy simmy ya, simmy yam simmy yay (voodoo chili), Thursday, 7 February 2019 23:38 (four months ago) Permalink

d'oh the song on the BP soundtrack is called "Seasons" and features the rapper Reason.

Anyway, I dove into the Sjava album and it's taking over my world right now. Sjava not otm

sun-kil moonsician (voodoo chili), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:41 (four months ago) Permalink

To be fair to the guy, he wraps the interview up like this:

So, in an ideal world, looking at the album as it is, what would you tweak?

Nothing really. It is what it is.

breastcrawl, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:51 (four months ago) Permalink

I’m still stuck at that Umphako EP he was talking about, “Intombi” in particular.

breastcrawl, Friday, 8 February 2019 18:07 (four months ago) Permalink

I organized a small battle between two of my favourite tracks right now. It’s over here: Gqompetition time: two songs, two videos - QDOT vs SHADO M
Feel free to take a look and participate!

breastcrawl, Thursday, 14 February 2019 18:25 (four months ago) Permalink

This is a great track, and yes, it’s from 2017:

Kaylow feat. DJ Mdix • Isgubhu

breastcrawl, Sunday, 24 February 2019 19:10 (three months ago) Permalink

But who am I kidding? I really came to post these mixes Sun-El did for South African radio station 5FM. I just found out he did three 30-minute mixes, one in December and two just recently. And guess what, most of it is new stuff: some instrumental tracks, several tracks with Simmy (!), and some remixes of stuff by others (such as Black Coffee). It’s a lot to take in! (let me just say I can’t wait for him to drop “Indodana” featuring Berita.)
I will post the links from his Soundcloud (which include track listings). The mixes (01 and 03 at least) can also be found on YouTube.

breastcrawl, Sunday, 24 February 2019 19:46 (three months ago) Permalink

ah, thanks!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 25 February 2019 14:36 (three months ago) Permalink

Has ILM gone into hibernation, apart from forks?

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 20:59 (three months ago) Permalink

that first mix in particular is real good btw; i appreciate the My House opening.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:16 (three months ago) Permalink

I can't find the tracklists?

Frederik B, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Sorry, the first mix has no tracklist, the others do though, and...

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:16 (three months ago) Permalink

MIX 01:

01. 00:00 Jeremy Soule - The Streets Of Whiterun (Sun-EL Edit)
02. 02:50 (06:21) Sun-EL Musician Feat. Simmy - That's the way love goes
03. 07:00 Sun-EL Musician Feat. Berita - Indodana
04. 12:19 Sun-EL Musician - Unknown
05. 15:19 Simmy - Nawe
06. 19:07 Sun-EL Musician - Van Damm

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 22:17 (three months ago) Permalink

great stuff, thanks breastcrawl

nxd, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 09:32 (three months ago) Permalink

Not sure this is the right place for it, but this is an amazing piece of music:

Kabza De Small ft. Leehleza • Amabele (Shaya)

breastcrawl, Friday, 1 March 2019 22:42 (three months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

This is the most beautiful thing:

Tresor ft. Msaki • Sondela

breastcrawl, Thursday, 30 May 2019 00:36 (two weeks ago) Permalink

very pretty. all this music is very pretty, perfect early summer ~vibes~

easy ball shooter (Spottie), Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink

wow that's great. I was listening to the Mlindo album walking around yesterday and thinking I should bump this thread to check if I've missed anything new

rob, Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Yep good summer vibes. Listening to the full Tresor album now. So Sun-El isn't involved with this at all? Are Tresor and Sun-El in same collective or something? Not questioning this being shouted out in this thread, just curious if there's a connection other than sonic/regional.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 May 2019 18:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

No, in this case it’s just the sonic/regional connection. To me, this song is most at home here, whereas I feel the harder South African club sounds (gqom, most notably) are better suited for the Afropop thread, but it’s all quite arbitrary.

Also, there is no official Sun-El collective as such. Simmy has worked exclusively with him so far, but Mlindo for instance, even though he got his break with a Sun-El track, had DJ Maphorisa produce his album.

breastcrawl, Thursday, 30 May 2019 19:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Gotcha, thanks for the info, and keep posting these!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this is the one i've had on repeat for a couple months now. just a gorgeous mix of sounds worthy of loud listening.

easy ball shooter (Spottie), Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Sjava rules!

Reminder that everything that’s posted here is also included on ILM’s official Rolling Afropop / Afrobeats / Afrodance 2019 Spotify playlist.

breastcrawl, Thursday, 30 May 2019 20:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink

that Tresor track is really nice, will have to check out the album.

ufo, Thursday, 30 May 2019 23:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Chapter 2 : Myself and @Ami_faku present to you our latest offering “into ingawe” which drops this Friday, Taken from my upcoming project. #EWM #intoingawe

— Sun-EL Musician (@SunELMusician) June 3, 2019

breastcrawl, Monday, 3 June 2019 19:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink


dyl, Monday, 3 June 2019 21:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Sun-El Musician ft. Ami Faku • Into Ingawe

Also this:
Mthunzi • Vuka

breastcrawl, Friday, 7 June 2019 06:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Thanks a lot for Sondela guys. Also following on Sjava.

Nabozo, Friday, 7 June 2019 16:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Big wow at Into Ingawe, his skills in production are not getting any less than heavenly.

Nabozo, Friday, 7 June 2019 17:00 (one week ago) Permalink

new single is glorious.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 7 June 2019 19:35 (one week ago) Permalink

Today my wife stopped at Sondela's clip and said "Msaki ? Is that her ? She used to come and perform at our house in Melville" but I wasn't there for those nights. We also found out that Simmy has the same flowery dress in Sonini as the one we bought at Mr Price. Cool little details.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 June 2019 16:02 (three days ago) Permalink

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