THE HOUSE OF SUN-EL: Sun-El Musician, Simmy, Mlindo The Vocalist, and other related artists

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the album to follow-up board favourite single Akanamali is out and it's all gorgeous afro-house in the same vein. one of my favourite pop albums so far this year

ufo, Thursday, 19 April 2018 15:58 (two years ago) link

Akanamali was by far my favorite discovery from the year-end poll, will definitely check this out.

bhad gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:01 (two years ago) link

Probably as good a place as any to put this, which I've never seen mentioned on ILM

omar little, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:02 (two years ago) link

wait is this on the album too?

omar little, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:03 (two years ago) link

Ubala is really excellent, one of his best though it's not on the album

ufo, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:04 (two years ago) link

never mind it's on a mix he put out with the same name:

omar little, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:04 (two years ago) link

album tracklist:
1. With You (feat. Desiree Dawson)
2. Akanamali (feat. Samthing Soweto)
3. Sengimoja
4. Life We Live (feat. Les-Ego & Nontu X)
5. No Stopping Us (feat. S-Tone)
6. Goodbye (feat. DJ Charl & Lelo Kamau)
7. Umalukatane (feat. S-Tone)
8. Sonini (feat. Simmy & Lelo Kamau)
9. Ntaba Ezikude (feat. Simmy)
10. Random
11. The Wave
12. Bamthathile (feat. Mlindo the Vocalist)
13. Yere Faga (feat. Oumou Sangaré) [Sun–El Musician Remix]

ufo, Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:07 (two years ago) link

if there is even 1 song on here that's half as good as sonini then this'll probably be my favorite album of the year

brendon urine (diamonddave85), Thursday, 19 April 2018 16:16 (two years ago) link

super excited for this, but it doesn't seem particularly available yet? (at least in Canada)

rob, Thursday, 19 April 2018 17:40 (two years ago) link

it's out on the 20th digitally (which it is here) but when I posted this thread I thought it had been released digitally a few days ago since it seems to have gotten a surprise physical release then in South Africa

ufo, Thursday, 19 April 2018 23:28 (two years ago) link

Oh, lol, it's in Denmark as well now. I don't think they accounted for summer time.

Frederik B, Friday, 20 April 2018 00:15 (two years ago) link

excited to hear this! "akanamali" is still achingly beautiful

dyl, Friday, 20 April 2018 03:16 (two years ago) link

I really love the interplay between the scatting vocals and the brass on Sengimoja

ufo, Friday, 20 April 2018 05:10 (two years ago) link

this album is exactly what i could've hoped for, about an hour of songs that scratch the same itch as akanamali

bhad gon' hurt your bhack (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 April 2018 23:23 (two years ago) link

been looking forward to this, haven't heard it yet

Dan S, Friday, 20 April 2018 23:49 (two years ago) link

really quite impressed on first listen. the back half might be my favorite, with the two purely instrumental cuts toward the end being big highlights, "the wave" in particular.

"akanamali" really deserved to conquer the world. as much as i hate to keep singling it out for praise, it deserves all of it and more.

dyl, Saturday, 21 April 2018 02:50 (two years ago) link

for whatever reason the follow-up single to "akanamali", "bamthathile", has not clicked with me tho

dyl, Saturday, 21 April 2018 02:52 (two years ago) link

oh man i love bamthathile. loving this so far

Heez, Saturday, 21 April 2018 03:03 (two years ago) link

This is great.

Tim F, Sunday, 22 April 2018 01:30 (two years ago) link

good timing for summer around the corner

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 22 April 2018 05:15 (two years ago) link

what a good album

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 April 2018 13:45 (two years ago) link

god bless a record that goes out of its way to make me feel like i'm on a boat

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 April 2018 13:51 (two years ago) link

aw :)

Yeah, this album is really good.

Frederik B, Sunday, 22 April 2018 15:53 (two years ago) link

Hate to make this comparison, but some of this sounds like an Innervisions release or something I expect Dixon to be remixing.

But yeah, enjoying this a lot anyway.

MikoMcha, Monday, 23 April 2018 08:45 (two years ago) link

Haha yeah I remember Culoe de Song’s early stuff sounded a lot like this.

Tim F, Monday, 23 April 2018 08:58 (two years ago) link

Nothing off this has stood out as much as Akanamali, which is a one-in-a-million amazing song, but it's neat so far.

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:29 (two years ago) link

If you ever get to go on a sunset drive down the motorway, whack that song tout-de-suite

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Monday, 23 April 2018 13:30 (two years ago) link

this is amazing

Nourry, Monday, 23 April 2018 22:17 (two years ago) link

Okay so I still think Akanamali is a unique piece of work that towers over p much everything here. About 50% of the rest of this sounds like passable vocal house and doesn't really interest me. I definitely prefer the stuff that's more obviously African/South African styling but I need to listen a few more times.

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 08:46 (two years ago) link

It may be classic vocal house, but I like its light-luminous-breezy character so imo it compares favorably to classic house (a genre I've only brushed admittedly). Akanamali will likely remain the crowd favorite, but the rest is really consistent and agreeable, with some glorious layers and a great sense of melody. I haven't bought a CD in ages, but I'd buy this to play it in the car yeah. Impressive debut.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 10:45 (two years ago) link

I'll say it's a bit unfortunate to open with With You given some of the tracks that follow, it'd have made more sense to have Simmy instead of the American accent of that Canadian chick. I'm also questioning it because the latter part of the album (from Sonini to Bamthathile) sounds so strong to me, though I can't complain about Akanamali - No Stopping Us - Goodbye.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 11:05 (two years ago) link

If you like Akanamali, this one is for sure the closest

Nabozo, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 11:29 (two years ago) link

I'm kinda addicted to 'Sengimoja' and 'Goodbye'.

Nourry, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 11:49 (two years ago) link

Nabozo OTM. With You is kind of hedging its bets, but overall it's a pleasant (sometimes erring on the safe/generic side) listen. The last part of the album is much more like it as far as I care so far. This'll make great BBQ music whatever happens

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:13 (two years ago) link

With You is one of the weaker tracks but it's still nice for the vocal loop that comes in at the end.

ufo, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 14:21 (two years ago) link

Sengimoja is the one.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 April 2018 19:18 (two years ago) link

I was listening to Sonsini and thinking how amazing it would be to be dancing to this song at sunrise and then the soft rock guitar came in and just slayed me. That one might actually be better than Akanamali.

The rest of this album = let vibes be unconfined.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 08:03 (two years ago) link

Sonini slightly reminds me of Time is Over (for sheer technoish sky-suspended brilliance). Qamata sonini.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 12:20 (two years ago) link

Okay I listened to the whole album twice while driving this morning and it's really growing on me. Still not a big fan of the first track but the rest is wonderful. Definitely great in the right context

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:08 (two years ago) link

since I rinsed Akanamali last year, I find starting on track 3 works really well

rob, Wednesday, 25 April 2018 14:27 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Testing the waters with the Sun-El fandom: I posted this slightly trippy SA gem on the Afropop thread, but over there no one’s biting.

Zinaro ft. JB (of Thee Legacy) & Dust, “Dali Wami”

breastcrawl, Thursday, 10 May 2018 10:51 (two years ago) link

As for the S-EM album, “No Stopping Us”, which didn’t do much for me when it dropped in February alongside “Bamthathile”, really shines in the album context. It wears its generic Robin Schulziness extremely well.

breastcrawl, Thursday, 10 May 2018 10:52 (two years ago) link

Every English-language voice on this is kind of unwelcome even when the music is amazing - that first track is a case in point, when she drifts into the background and the vocal loops come in it's completely sublime but before that nah.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 May 2018 11:38 (two years ago) link

Agree on “With You” (but it’s as much the melody and the vocal itself as the English) and maybe “Life We Live”, but I’m fine with the English on “No Stopping Us” and “Goodbye”. NSU feels to me like an open invitation to play Janelle’s “Screwed” next.

breastcrawl, Thursday, 10 May 2018 12:18 (two years ago) link

is there a way of buying this album without having to go via iTunes? I don't want a stupid iTunes format file, I want an MP3 or pref a FLAC/WAV?

Hire Planes (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:23 (two years ago) link

I don't know if it's available digitally in FLAC/WAV anywhere but Google Play has it in 320 mp3

ufo, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 23:06 (two years ago) link

“Sonini”, the track with Simmy and Lelo Kamau, is the new single and has a video to go with it:

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:57 (two years ago) link

i think that's my second favourite after Akanamali

Hire Planes (dog latin), Thursday, 24 May 2018 08:20 (two years ago) link

The entire run from Sonini to the end is absolutely faultless and glorious.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 May 2018 10:09 (two years ago) link

i'm looking forward to this being my sunny road trip album this summer

dyl, Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:30 (two years ago) link


No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 17 April 2020 16:17 (two months ago) link

hate to say it but it's not knocking my socks off? Seems fine.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 17 April 2020 21:52 (two months ago) link

ya not feeling it either

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:01 (two months ago) link

ILM, it was nice knowing ya

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 17 April 2020 22:02 (two months ago) link

agreed w/ the others

dyl, Saturday, 18 April 2020 02:51 (two months ago) link

The instrumental track and the singing do not really connect, I find.

Nabozo, Saturday, 18 April 2020 12:18 (two months ago) link

it's perfectly pleasant but there's nothing to really elevate it to the level of his best work and a bit too understated even for him.

ufo, Saturday, 18 April 2020 12:38 (two months ago) link

omfg this is exactly what we need right the fuck now.

It's going to take a lot to best an album as incredible and emotionally uplifting as Africa to the World. This track is lovely, and if the rest of the album is as good as this but not better I'll still be happy. He has a specific vibe that is just romantic and beautiful and does such an amazing job of giving me an "escape" and Uhuru still has that in spades.

octobeard, Monday, 20 April 2020 00:51 (two months ago) link

i don't doubt the album will be really good even if this track is a little more understated than one might have expected from a 'first single' (not that 'understated' is necessarily a bad thing in sun-el's hands)

dyl, Monday, 20 April 2020 16:46 (two months ago) link

yeah same on all points

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 02:37 (two months ago) link

I agree that it’s not as good as a “Sonini” or “Ntaba ezikude” (leaving “Akanamali” out of this, because hors catégorie), but I still think it’s gorgeous.

What puts this song over the top for me is Azana’s vocal - so earnest and affecting.
She seems to be new, she has no footprint (voicetrail?) on Spotify at all, but her Twitter tells me she has an album out in May; the snippets suggest a slightly more jazzy vibe than for instance Simmy.

But maybe y’all wanted Simmy on this?

— Simmy (@simmymusicsa) April 16, 2020

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 07:40 (two months ago) link

Sweet. What I find funny with this video, is that where we hear house music (and look for certain qualities) South Africans are hearing "their" music under all the lush tapestry, chimes etc.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:08 (two months ago) link

Btw breastcrawl if you're still learning Zulu, Simmy gives her own translation of Ngihamba Nawe (or I Choose You) in the YT comments.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:15 (two months ago) link

oh nice, will have a look! (I’m not actively studying, but I’m much more alert to song titles and stuff, so I do google-translate a lot)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:37 (two months ago) link

i want simmy on basically everything.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:38 (two months ago) link


A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 16:22 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

cross-posting with the Moloko thread:

“Sing It Back”, repurposed by Samthing Soweto as a gospel workout, lyrics slighly tweaked.
Soweto Central Chorus of the Salvation Army ft. Samthing Soweto • Bring It Back

Much better to watch the performance itself, starting from 55:12:

Don’t know if this version predates the much more faithful (!) Sha Sha cover or not (it looks like it was recorded last year as well) - Samthing and Sha Sha are only one step removed from each other obviously.

(Samthing is on two more (consecutive) songs earlier in the concert, “Bawo” and “Mzalwane”, from 11:28 onwards)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Thursday, 21 May 2020 20:17 (one month ago) link

I don't much care about Moloko, but that was extremely dope

dip to dup (rob), Friday, 22 May 2020 15:04 (one month ago) link

More from Azana - Your Love which will serve as the first single of her INGOMA album. I think we had a snippet already.

Nabozo, Friday, 22 May 2020 15:54 (one month ago) link

that's just lovely! my first encounter with her, iirc, but stoked for the album now

dip to dup (rob), Saturday, 23 May 2020 12:30 (one month ago) link

ah I see she's the singer on that slightly controversial Sun El track

dip to dup (rob), Saturday, 23 May 2020 12:31 (one month ago) link

This has been around for ages, but it's such a pretty song:
Sithelo ft. Skye Wanda • Forever

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Sunday, 24 May 2020 12:23 (one month ago) link

new single on the way, this sounds nice!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 25 May 2020 21:53 (one month ago) link


No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 06:22 (one month ago) link

ubomi abumanga:

monotony, Friday, 29 May 2020 02:38 (one month ago) link

oh wow the horns on this are lovely

ufo, Friday, 29 May 2020 02:47 (one month ago) link

absolutely love it

dyl, Friday, 29 May 2020 05:20 (one month ago) link

yeah, i fuck with this for sure

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 May 2020 14:36 (one month ago) link

DJ set by Sun-El, featuring a number of new tracks:

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Monday, 1 June 2020 19:56 (one month ago) link


Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 June 2020 20:02 (one month ago) link

Azana’s second – ‘your love’ turns into ‘true love’:
Azana • Uthando Lwangempela

live version:

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 12 June 2020 18:25 (three weeks ago) link

For those who can’t wait for the Azana album…

…welcome to snippet heaven!

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 12 June 2020 18:48 (three weeks ago) link
Azana feat. Sun-El Musician - Ngize Ngifike

Nabozo, Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:48 (two weeks ago) link

Belatedly, "Your Love" is the most beautiful thing I have ever heard.

Tim F, Monday, 22 June 2020 02:11 (two weeks ago) link

All three of these Azana singles are great.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 June 2020 20:07 (two weeks ago) link

dig the light touch of Jill Scott "He Loves Me" interpolation in Ngize Ngifike

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 June 2020 20:09 (two weeks ago) link

damn "ubomi abumanga" is incredible wtf... afrobeats rendered in the worldview of air france

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 June 2020 07:52 (two weeks ago) link

"Zwakala", the new Tresor, is very good:

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 09:28 (one week ago) link

good stuff!

rob, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 16:50 (one week ago) link

it's just another Azana Friday:
Azana ft. Sino Msolo • Umaqondana

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 July 2020 07:57 (six days ago) link

she's amazing

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 3 July 2020 18:18 (six days ago) link

god they sound great together, this album is promising to be stunning

rob, Friday, 3 July 2020 18:48 (six days ago) link

Now do yourselves a favour and listen to “Uhuru” again.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 July 2020 19:42 (six days ago) link

I will def revisit that when the Sun-El album drops (iirc I wasn't as anti as others). Speaking of, are we looking at albums *this summer* from: Sun-El, Azana, Burna Boy, and WizKid?! Should Simmy be on that list too?

rob, Friday, 3 July 2020 19:47 (six days ago) link

oh man throw Tresor on that list too, wth

rob, Friday, 3 July 2020 19:49 (six days ago) link

Not sure about Simmy, but we’ve already had Kabza (I know). Davido also promised another album in July.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 July 2020 20:30 (six days ago) link

...but yes, that new Azana track. “Umaqondana” might be my favourite so far.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 3 July 2020 23:37 (six days ago) link

came across this playlist on Spotify, looks like a perfect match with the music on this thread: Sunday Kind of Love by Filtr South Africa.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Sunday, 5 July 2020 17:45 (four days ago) link

New Heavy K, “second single”** from a new project that is promised for 31 July. It sounds great and I'm keeping my fingers crossed:
Heavy-K ft. Natalia Mabaso • Uyeke

(**meanwhile previous single “Tsamaya” with Professor has disappeared from Spotify. Don’t know what’s going on between Heavy and Spotify: the tracks he dropped last year never reached it or have disappeared again, and his 2018 album and 2017 classic "Inde" are no longer there either)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:11 (four days ago) link

that's really nice (not surprisingly for him). even the part that semi-reminded me of phil collins "another day in paradise", lol

dyl, Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:47 (four days ago) link

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