where's d'scene? rolling soca, chutney, jab & other caribbean pop

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I'm leaving the year off because Carnival season doesn't follow the regular calendar anyway and the last couple threads didn't quite justify dedicated annual threads--hopefully this one will get massively unwieldy and I'll regret it. Also making the thread remit open to basically any Caribbean pop music that isn't already covered in the dancehall and reggaeton&c. threads, though the emphasis will still likely be on Trinidadian music.

Kes's ode to Queen's Park Savannah, "Savannah Grass," seems like a great place to start:


Also enjoying the Tingin' riddim this afternoon:


I desperately need a pre-season mix though, if anyone has any recs.

rob, Saturday, 26 January 2019 19:50 (six months ago) link

(repost) Just for the pleasure of having Bunji Garlin with spanish-style guitar again

Nabozo, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 14:47 (six months ago) link

That's really nice, it has a Carnival Tabanca vibe to it.

rob, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 15:18 (six months ago) link

Yeah, nice one. For the uninitiated (=me): who is the original “Carnival Tabanca” by? I see lots of songs (cover versions?) with that title.

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:14 (six months ago) link

Bunji, i think?

"Tabanca" as a concept is used a lot though - it's basically longing for something that has passed so in this context generally means post-carnival comedown.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:29 (six months ago) link

yeah I meant the Bunji tune:


one of my favorites

rob, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:36 (six months ago) link

Soca Monarch semi-finalists are out btw:


I haven't gone through them properly yet (though in true Trini style, i haven't gotten around to listening to my Carnival 2018 compilation CDs yet, so it may be a while).

ShariVari, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:40 (six months ago) link

wow I don't think I know *any* of the Power finalists

rob, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:43 (six months ago) link

I do know most of these finalists but it’s great to have the songs listed like this. Thanks!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 21:17 (six months ago) link

Dumpa Truck goes HARD


Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 22:22 (six months ago) link

I think longneck might have posted this on the previous thread, but man I love Bunji's See Meh:


On Badang he's meta:


rob, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:06 (six months ago) link

^Olatunji and Machel are also great on that if you missed it earlier like I did

rob, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 20:09 (six months ago) link

Speaking of Bunji Garlin, I really enjoyed this - as well, of course, as everything I've found lurking here for the last decade or so.


vcrash, Thursday, 31 January 2019 01:31 (six months ago) link

that bangs! underpopulated rolling genre threads are a great way to de-lurk imo, just saying

rob, Thursday, 31 January 2019 22:28 (six months ago) link

haha, true dat

breastcrawl, Friday, 1 February 2019 07:10 (six months ago) link

can't remember if I posted this on last year's thread, but I like this very much.

Juby - Look She Dey


frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 12:55 (six months ago) link

What can you lot tell me about Zouk and French-Antillian / French-Caribbean music? Is it still a thing? I remember Kassav' and Zouk Machine being on TV in France a lot as a kid

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 13:04 (six months ago) link

Ha I ate pancakes at Riley's in December! Great tune too.

Sadly I know rien about French-Caribbean music. fwiw, I think the stray tracks that have crossed my radar were all basically dancehall. LargeUp was never perfect but it definitely sucks there's no good source for general Caribbean music now

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:48 (six months ago) link

This power soca tag team development is worth noting:

Skinny, Machel, and Bunji / "Famalay"


Erphaan, Nailah, and Sekon / "Brave"


rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:50 (six months ago) link

The Juby is great. Loving the brass and the breakdown at the end. In heavy rotation now.

Some fresh jab from Slatta (or “Slätta”, as Spotify likes to call him, as a result of interference with a Danish band of that name). I had a wild musical fling with him last year, and he’s back!

Slatta • Unbothered:


(this one makes me so so giddy)

Merzy ft. Slatta • Doh Fraid:


(the instrumental track of this one is absolutely bonkers!)

The Cigar Puff Riddim has Slatta, but also this: Big Red • Typa Way:


As it happens, these are all produced by Xpert Productions, who also did Bunji’s “Wet” upthread.

In case it wasn’t abundantly clear yet: Jab is by far my favorite kind of soca.

breastcrawl, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:12 (six months ago) link

Question: I say “jab”, because that’s how people call it here (I think), or is “jab jab” the (only) correct name for this genre?

breastcrawl, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:16 (six months ago) link

I say Jab but I'm by no means an authority. think 'Jab jab' means devil which is the root term

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 1 February 2019 19:22 (six months ago) link

Either is fine.

ShariVari, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:52 (six months ago) link

That’s settled then, cheers!

breastcrawl, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:03 (six months ago) link

The Toco Loco Riddim (posted at the tail end of the previous thread) is a great way to start the day. Make the shower your carnival!

breastcrawl, Thursday, 7 February 2019 07:50 (six months ago) link


'Pick up something - Run wid it!'


This is Mr Killa - Run Wid It. I think it's mandatory to pick up something when this comes on

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 8 February 2019 15:31 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...


Sour grapes re Grenada’s Mr Killa?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 21:54 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I like Mr. Killa from Grenada’s “ Run Wild it.” His speedy ennuncation and the percussive rhythms. He’s gonna be in DC Sunday.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:32 (four months ago) link

Listening to David Rudder’s Catharsis album from a few years back. I like his lilting melodies, socio-political lyrics, and rhythms that aren’t quite as fast-tempoed as most soca hits

curmudgeon, Thursday, 28 March 2019 14:16 (four months ago) link


Rudder, a singer/songwriter who won the Calypso Monarch and Road March titles in 1986, answered first.

Each generation reflects where we are in society, he said. Recalling that he had come up as a calypsonian in the tradition of Zandolie and Kitchener, the “Lyrics Man” said working with 2016-18 Soca Monarch Voice showed him that young writers see rhyme and lyrics differently from the older generation of calypsonians. He and Voice have a 2019 release called Madness....

...Calypso emerged from the songs of enslaved Africans in Trinidad and came of age in the poor, black, urban jamette culture of the early 20th century. Its anodyne lyrics often disguised subversive or vulgar double meanings.

There is no need to disguise such meanings any more, Rudder said. “It’s not by chance. It’s a very raw time.”

curmudgeon, Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:47 (four months ago) link

70-something Calypso Rose from T & T is performing in NYC tonight. Wish she’d come farther south to my locale

curmudgeon, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:33 (four months ago) link

xp my Chutney-loving mate made the case for parallels between that style and country music. so many songs about break ups and alcohol abuse

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:53 (four months ago) link

Maybe so

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 April 2019 12:54 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

From Martinique (and from 2016, but new to me, so yeah):


M.O.B • KoKoLeCheL

This is from this year, slightly different title, completely different track:


M.O.B • KoKéLécheL

(Spotify has them as by “Mob” and “M O B” respectively, but it’s the same guy)

breastcrawl, Friday, 3 May 2019 12:59 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Interesting stuff. How come nobody ever told me about that Jamaican ”Mad Over You” rip?

Ding Dong • Lebeh Lebeh

(sure, it belongs on the dancehall thread, but since everybody’s mashing things up anyway...)

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:23 (two months ago) link

Lebeh Lebeh is cute, but it's always bugged me that it cuts some of the best bits of "Mad over You" (which I adore)

rob, Friday, 21 June 2019 13:15 (two months ago) link

breastcrawl, have you checked out the Walshy Fire album? I haven't gotten around to it yet myself but it's all stuff like this:


rob, Friday, 21 June 2019 13:19 (two months ago) link

Mad Over You always reminds me of just how much I love music.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 21 June 2019 13:41 (two months ago) link

rob, I listened to the Walshy Fire album, several times in fact. I’m not too crazy about the Alkaline/Runtown track you posted, I like second single “Call Me” with Eazi and Kranium much better:

The dancehall-leaning tracks don’t do too much for me (a bit stodgy and waaaay too much Ice Prince - they must be very good friends). The fun is in the lighter tracks, notably “Outside” (Adekunle Gold/Nailah Blackman) (is this afrosocapop?) and “Amazing” (Timeka Marshall/Stonebwoy) with its wonderful steel drum coda, my favourite:

breastcrawl, Friday, 28 June 2019 05:13 (one month ago) link

“Amazing”, again:

breastcrawl, Friday, 28 June 2019 05:14 (one month ago) link

Afro-Caribbean collaborations that are at least as interesting:

How about some “palm whine à la bamba”? https://youtu.be/QNb0WlPe73Y

Juls ft. Agent Sasco • Slow Down

And this reggaeton bombshell, produced by Legendury Beatz: https://youtu.be/HcwEyLhwL54

J Balvin & Bad Bunny ft. Mr Eazi • Como Un Bebé

breastcrawl, Friday, 28 June 2019 05:16 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Reposting this from the Rolling Dancehall & Reggae thread, where vcrash posted it yesterday:

Bush Tea • Wiyah Waist

(She’s from the Virgin Islands)

breastcrawl, Saturday, 10 August 2019 17:11 (one week ago) link

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