Rolling Global Outernational Non-West Non-English (Some Exceptions) 2019 Thread Once Known as World Music

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This thread is mainly for polyrhythmic, international sounds that aren't big enough to get threads of their own. I lean toward south of the equator sounds here that are sometimes less club-oriented than artists highlighted on Afrobeats, dancehall, soca threads.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Mdou Moctar is touring the US now again.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 16:58 (two months ago) Permalink

2018 releases I still need to hear:
Tallawit Timbouctou, Hali Diallo (Sahel Sounds) and Onkonkolo, Cantos (big crown)

Both on a Vinyl District website best of list

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 18:19 (two months ago) Permalink

Modern Brazil - s/d

Posted some things about Brazilian music on the Modern Brazil thread. Too many Brazilian musicians are under the radar in the English language world-- like Tim Bernardes and Romulo Froes.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 January 2019 23:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Just saw an awesome video clip on Facebook of BCUC (Bantu Continua Uhuru Consciousness), a rap vocals with drummers combo from Soweto, South Africa at Collider 4 in Northampton, MA on their debut US appearance. They're onstage Saturday at a multi-act Secret Planet showcase at Drom, in NYC with Mdou Moctar and band from Niger. On Sunday, BCUC are at GlobalFEST in NYC and next Tuesday Jan 8 at Kennedy Center Millennium Stage

curmudgeon, Saturday, 5 January 2019 06:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, i'm at globalFest tonight. particularly excited about 47soul doing their US debut, the Magos Herrera/BK Rider collabo, Dakhabrakha offshoot Dakh Daughters, my second show with Orquesta Akokan, blues rocker Amythyst Kiah, and, yes, BCUC.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:33 (two months ago) Permalink

47 Soul were just down here in DC on either 4th or 5th I think, and they’re coming back next weekend. 1st show sold out quick. Haven’t decided whether to go to 2nd one. I missed the first. Haven’t listened to them online even yet. I saw Orquesta Akokan do a free set of retro Cuban mambo here at Kennedy Center. Singer was in both timba bands and Buena Vista type projects in past. Pretty good if not spectacular dance band

curmudgeon, Monday, 7 January 2019 20:13 (two months ago) Permalink

they were outta this world when i saw them this fall
best big band i've seen in many years, maybe ever? the venue was paaaaacked and i probably said all of this on the 2018 thread but it was just that enjoyable. they put on a monster show!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 7 January 2019 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

I don't know if it's been brought up here (probably?), but I was just in Tanzania, and before I left I looked up the music scene and learned about singeli, this crazy 300 bpm music that's like an East African Atari Teenage Riot or something:

I saw the clip in this article:

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:24 (two months ago) Permalink

We discussed it (a bit) on last year’s Afropop thread, in the light of this Nyege Nyege Tapes release:

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:46 (two months ago) Permalink

From here on down, in fact:
rolling afropop / afrobeats 2018

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:52 (two months ago) Permalink

Okay, that didn’t come out the way I wanted to. Discussion on the thread is from Feb 6 through til Feb 12.

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 12:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Banning Eyre was impressed by Mali’s Harouna Samake at the Womex Festival

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:25 (two months ago) Permalink

I was wowed by South African group BCUC at the Kennedy Center Millennium Stage yesterday. Energy, chops ( bass, conga, 2 marching band type drums, 3 vocalists including a female one with range), socio-political lyrics, dance moves.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:29 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah, BCUC were the big surprise at globalfest for me; the EP is okay but they're absolutely dynamite live

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:51 (two months ago) Permalink

this is exciting!

just found some more mamman sani tapes from the late 80s/early 90s so that's coming

— sahel sounds (@sahelsounds) January 9, 2019

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 22:11 (two months ago) Permalink

[ducks head] I should have bought other Sahel Sounds vinyl at the Mdou Moctar show tonight with Horse Lords opening but I didn’t. At a previous time I saw he and his band I bought a t-shirt.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 January 2019 04:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh, it was a good show.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 January 2019 04:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Looks like Alfred S was the only vote in the Uproxx poll of 200 critics for Tal National. I should have voted and made it 2

curmudgeon, Friday, 11 January 2019 02:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Saw a track vote on Uproxx for Jupiter and Okwess

curmudgeon, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Listening to 2018 album by Malian kamala ngoni ( calabash bottom with vertical pole with strings making harp like sounds) musician Harouna Samake and band. Album is Kamale Blues. Strong male and female vocals and uptempo rhythms from band led by Samake. Upthread I noted that Banning Eyre touted Samake’s Womex fest gig

curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Sahel Sounds definitely worth following on twitter. Both links and random statements all worth checking out.

Mdou pitched a remake of Thriller in Agadez!

curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 January 2019 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Tallawit Timbouctou, Hali Diallo (Sahel Sounds)

great buzzsaw guitar sound on this

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 January 2019 05:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Listening to ILX Listen: 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 17:12 (two months ago) Permalink


Liking this Pat Kalla & Super Mojo album Jongler from 2018. A couple of folks are calling it French-African disco as Kalla now lives in Lyon, France. I hear Cameroon, Angola, and Ghana

curmudgeon, Friday, 18 January 2019 02:04 (two months ago) Permalink

During his 1955 overland adventure to India, Bhattacharya crossed through Italy, Greece, Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. (He and Glennie were joined by a third explorer, who dropped out of the trip partway through.)

Geeta D article

curmudgeon, Sunday, 20 January 2019 05:53 (two months ago) Permalink

curmudgeon, Sunday, 20 January 2019 05:54 (two months ago) Permalink

NY Times article on Nigerian rock

While the crowds at Nigerian rock shows are mostly female, few women have become community leaders. The alternative singer Bianca Adanna Okorocha, 29, who performs as Clay, is one exception. She considers her perseverance an achievement.

“I’m still here when most of the people I got into the scene with have fallen away to assimilate into ‘real life,’” she said.
But more notable is her ability to fuse rock music with Afropop, the predominant contemporary sound in Lagos, and the success she has had in doing so

curmudgeon, Sunday, 20 January 2019 20:06 (two months ago) Permalink

Fascinating! Where can I hear some of it? Esp Clay

Mordy, Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:08 (two months ago) Permalink

Audio Inferno, linked in the article, has a lot of videos, album reviews, and news stories about African bands.

This video - "Mama" by Dark Suburb featuring Wiyaala (who has stuff out on her own) is pretty good in an Evanescence-y kind of way:

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 20 January 2019 22:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Clay seems to be only on YouTube, not on Spotify or Bandcamp

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 January 2019 00:01 (two months ago) Permalink

clay's 'the one' reminds me of jewel!

Mordy, Monday, 21 January 2019 01:21 (two months ago) Permalink

France-based Congolese singer Dadju is on a 3 city US tour- Dallas on 24th, DC on 26th, NY on the 30 th

curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 January 2019 17:43 (two months ago) Permalink

He’s French of Congolese origin, actually. He’s the younger brother of rapper Maître Gims.

breastcrawl, Thursday, 24 January 2019 18:32 (two months ago) Permalink

That’s how I should have phrased it, thanks. Saw a video clip of his DC show singing nicely over tracks .

curmudgeon, Sunday, 27 January 2019 18:14 (two months ago) Permalink

new bassekou kouyate out this week. also new a-wa track ("mudbira") which is fantastic, and sofia rei just made the first album for the new masada cycle "beriah" and it's pretty cool as well

Mordy, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:47 (one month ago) Permalink

75-year-old, Ustad Saami risks his life daily in Pakistan to keep alive his microtonal, pre-Islamic, multilingual (Farsi, Sanskrit, Hindi, the ancient and dead language of Vedic, gibberish, Arabic, and Urdu) music. Handed down by his ancestors for over a thousand years, he is the only practitioner of Surti left in the world and when he passes, this music will die with him as well. Extremists resent his work as they do anything else pre-dating Muhammad.

This is some beautiful and hypnotic work.

tangenttangent, Saturday, 9 February 2019 13:16 (one month ago) Permalink

i had heard about the new album but i was too busy meditating over the meaning (and my opinion of) the title that i hadn't gotten around to listen to it until your recommendation - which i'm so glad you made, really cool stuff! hypnotic is right.

Mordy, Saturday, 9 February 2019 15:14 (one month ago) Permalink

hoo boy the write-up on that is terrible (e.g., "In the land where Osama Bin last hid, Master Ustad Naseeruddin Saami has spent his entire life mastering the nuances of every given note."). But the music is immense (and totally new to me), thanks for posting that

rob, Saturday, 9 February 2019 15:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Egyptian experimental bandleader/composer/musician Maurice Louca's new album with 12-piece ensemble is quite lovely. posted this elsewhere but realised this is probably the right place to park this one.

calzino, Monday, 11 February 2019 10:07 (one month ago) Permalink

new mdou moctor single

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 15:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Mdou is still busy touring too—US and Europe

I was just in Mexico and didn’t hear anyone playing his music there. But I did hear folkloric Mexican sounds, banda, duranguese, pop, 50s style rock but in Spanish. Also live we saw Puerto Rican salsa romantica singer Victor Manuelle do a late night show in Mexico City. There were some impressive dancing couples in the crowd

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 18:39 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm not as wowed by Hama's laptop fruityloops programming takes on Niger / Tuareg traditional music as some folks like Wayne Marshall are. But I've only heard 2 cuts

curmudgeon, Thursday, 14 February 2019 05:23 (one month ago) Permalink

i really liked his 2015 album Torodi so i'll be checking this new one out w/ anticipation

Mordy, Thursday, 14 February 2019 14:28 (one month ago) Permalink

X-post- The one Louca composition I heard sounded kinda jazzy. He addressed his relationship to jazz and other genres here I see:

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 February 2019 18:12 (one month ago) Permalink

i didn't love the new hama :/

Mordy, Friday, 15 February 2019 18:20 (one month ago) Permalink

I still need to catch up on those other things you posted- Dexter Story etc.

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 February 2019 18:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Love the dexter story and I loved their last album so I’m looking forward to this one

Mordy, Friday, 15 February 2019 18:38 (one month ago) Permalink

I've been watching some of the Kennedy Center's live video stream of Tcheka, a Cape Verdean singer/songwriter/acoustic guitarist @ Kennedy Ctr. Mill. Stage. Beautiful vocal melodies and nice rhythmic string accompaniment. Sounds a bit Brazilian or Angolan

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 February 2019 23:56 (one month ago) Permalink

He was at Lincoln Center in NY (also for free) the night before.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 February 2019 00:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Kel Assouf's Black Tenere is out today. A lot of this Touareg desert blues stuff is nice, but too reined-in and pretty. This dude plays desert RAWK, though. His guitar tone will take your face off like a sandstorm, and there’s some guitar-organ jam action so heavy I keep expecting to hear Ian Gillan come in on vocals. Definitely recommended.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 16 February 2019 00:11 (one month ago) Permalink

i haven't gotten to this yet (also came out this week) but it has tracks w/ tony allen and mulatu astatke:

Mordy, Saturday, 16 February 2019 13:46 (one month ago) Permalink

i just saw that Mulatu Astatke is playing in a local PLANT CONSERVATORY in May but 1) tickets are $47 and 2) I have class that night and I would take my students but 1)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 16 February 2019 22:02 (one month ago) Permalink

maybe you can get a discount if you tell them it's for students??

Mordy, Saturday, 16 February 2019 23:17 (one month ago) Permalink

I bumped the Astatke thread to ask this, but have any of you seen him live? He's playing in Montreal (though not in a plant conservatory, damn that sounds amazing), but yeah it's pretty pricey and I'm wondering if it's worth it.

rob, Sunday, 17 February 2019 15:56 (one month ago) Permalink

i have! i think it was 2 years ago at the world music festival in chicago. it will be pricey and/but you will enjoy it.

idk about discounts -- haggling is not my forte. in the past i have taken them to events that are free (world music fest) or already offer discounted tickets for students (spektral quartet)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 17 February 2019 18:00 (one month ago) Permalink

thanks LL! the venue is walking distance from my apt so I'm pretty excited

rob, Sunday, 17 February 2019 18:42 (one month ago) Permalink

Astatke is playing NYC May 17 & 18, hope he comes down to DC too.

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 February 2019 05:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Yea Kel Assouf's Black Tenere rocks

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 February 2019 05:55 (one month ago) Permalink

well, some of it

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 February 2019 06:05 (one month ago) Permalink

I could do without some of the jam like stuff on it

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 February 2019 22:40 (one month ago) Permalink

few albums i'm checking out this week:

Cochemea - All My Relations: digging this, electrosax afrojazz
Eitan Katz - Ashrecha: musician friend keeps bumping this, charedi folk, not sure it's so unique but if you don't know this genre at all it has some nice moments
Saba Alizadeh - Scattered Memories: experimental music w/ persian instruments / electronic / field recording sounds
Constantinople, Ablaye Cissoko - Traversées: light kora + sitar music, mandinka + persian fusion

Mordy, Friday, 22 February 2019 19:52 (one month ago) Permalink

the assouf is okay - tho a little monotonous to me as a whole (i prefer it a track here and there outside the album) and like a lot of other stuff (that i do enjoy!)

Mordy, Friday, 22 February 2019 19:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Baaba Maal got an Oscar for best original score for Black Panther

curmudgeon, Monday, 25 February 2019 21:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Yemen Blues playing World Cafe Live tmmrw night trying to decide if i want to go..

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 17:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Banning Eyre Guide to Zimbabwe music from 70s to present. The emphasis is on guitar bands but he acknowledges rap and dancehall near the end. Bhundu Boys, Thomas Mapfumo, Mokoomba are all here.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 00:28 (one month ago) Permalink

Liking the new Kronos Quartet with Iranian vocalists Mahsa and Marjan Vahdat album Placeless. Melancholy and powerful delivery of the vocals over the strings

curmudgeon, Friday, 1 March 2019 17:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

new sahel sounds release:

Mordy, Friday, 1 March 2019 18:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

X-post - Iranian singer Mahsa Vahdat was great live backed by Kronos Q. Kronos on their own turned some of their Muslim countries repertoire for the night into standard classical music ( they sounded more interesting when they reached beyond that).

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 March 2019 15:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

African Film Fest in suburbs of DC

WAHENGA (The Ancestors)
Saturday, Mar. 9, 12:45 p.m.
AFI Silver Theatre
8633 Colesville Rd.
Silver Spring, MD

U.S. Premiere

WAHENGA follows John Kitime, a Tanzanian musician now in his 60s, as he sets out on a mission to put together an all-star band from the old days to revive the classic sound of Zilipendwa music. Along the way, he meets the people who played key roles in the music scene of Tanzania during the struggle for independence and the nation's formative years under the first president, Julius K. Nyerere. As Kitime plays with the band, spends time with musicians and digitizes reel-to-reel tapes from the 1960s and '70s, he reveals a fascinating and little-known story about the power of music to bring together a people and a nation. Official Selection, 2018 Zanzibar and Film Africa film festivals. (Note adapted from The Tanzania Heritage Project.)

DIR/SCR/PROD Rebecca Corey, Amil Shivji. Tanzania, 2018, color, 93 min. In Swahili with English subtitles

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 16:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

X-post- that Ahmed Ag Kaedy - Akaline Kidal on Sahel Sounds is solo Tuareg guitar. Nice enough

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Was working and missed that Tanzania movie. Also missed the screening of “The Burial of Kojo,” directed by NY-based Ghanaian rapper Blitz the Ambassador. This latter one will be on Netflix starting March 31

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Saw an Instagram story video clip of Congolese band Kokoko at S x SW and I was impressed. They use junkyard made instruments, a megaphone, and a laptop and wear matching yellow factory overall suits ( kind of Devo like)
Their US dates included 1 NY one a few days back, and now some shows out west. I hope they’ll come to DC next time they tour US

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 March 2019 23:31 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah I like their new album

Mordy, Friday, 15 March 2019 23:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Listening to Kokoko on Spotify now & less excited, although some cuts are nice Afro-funk

curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 March 2019 00:11 (one week ago) Permalink

Mokoomba from Zimbabwe are a great live band and are coming back to the US in April. Mdou Moctor and band are doing gigs out in the western us now I think. Worth seeing too

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:49 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh, saw Habib Koite, Malian singer/guitarist with percussionist Mama Kone do a mostly relaxed gig with pleasant but rhythmic open-tuned guitar playing. A few songs were more upbeat. Some nice stories in between re the tour-- being in more snow than they had ever seen in St. Paul, a barbecue for them in a San Francisco park (with great tasting meat although Habib's doctor tells him to eat less of that). Masterful ngoni player Bassekou Kouyate and others were suposed to be playing with them plus 2 others, but they couldn't get their visas approved.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 12:53 (one week ago) Permalink

New Africa Express EP is out now:

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 22 March 2019 17:47 (five days ago) Permalink

RIP 97-years old Ghanaian scholar and author re African music J.H. Kwabenia Nketia

His 1974 book, “The Music of Africa,” is widely considered a definitive historical study, and “Ethnomusicology and African Music,” a collection of his writings published in 2005, is used in classrooms throughout Africa and across the world

curmudgeon, Saturday, 23 March 2019 15:25 (four days ago) Permalink

Mdou Moctar’s new album with his band is an NPR First Listen. Sounds good

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:37 (yesterday) Permalink

i'll check it out but he never sounds as like idk experimental or futuristic or whatever as sahel sounds suggests

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 13:49 (yesterday) Permalink

True, but I think he's one of the best rockin traditionalists. I've seen him and his band a number of times and enjoyed them as much as Tinariwen. There's a hyperbolic Bob Boilen quote on the npr link-- "Mdou Moctar has made the most insane psychedelic guitar album of the 21st century."

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 14:40 (yesterday) Permalink

ha yeah that's what i'm talking about. "insane psychedelic guitar album" is what i want and then "rockin traditionalist" is what i get it's fine there's room for both but when there's some great stuff happening that is the former it's weird when it gets applied to the latter

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 14:44 (yesterday) Permalink

He is a left-handed guitarist and listens to American music as well, and there was that Prince inspired movie he was in, but yeah he's not quite as out there as the hype. But he's far from staid and retro and folky-traditionalist.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 14:49 (yesterday) Permalink

Meanwhile over in Mali, sad news--

The slaughter on Saturday of more than 130 Fulani herdsmen in central Mali, allegedly by members of the Dogon ethnic group, is the latest and most deadly incident in an increasingly violent conflict.

In 2018, 202 civilians were killed in communal violence in 42 incidents in Mali's Mopti region, according to New York-based group Human Rights Watch.

While there have been conflicts between the more settled Dogon people and the Fulani herders in central Mali for a long time, they have become increasingly violent since a militant Islamist uprising in the north of the country in 2012.

The government appeared to blame the Dogon self-defence group, Dan Na Ambassagou, for Saturday's attack and has outlawed it, even though the group has denied any involvement.


Human Rights Watch (HRW) says that groups affiliated with al Qaeda and ISIS have moved deeper into central Mali, exploiting existing ethnic divisions and sowing chaos....Corinne Dufka, HRW's West Africa Associate Director, told CNN that the violence in Mali was underscored by "ongoing tension over land and water between herders and cultivators but also by the growing presence of armed Islamist groups who ... have committed very serious atrocities and targeted members of the Dogon group."
Dufka said that Dan Na Ambassagou "has been attacked by armed Islamists and then they engage in lethal reprisals, including the one that occurred yesterday."
Saturday's attack is the latest escalation of a cycle of violence that has spiraled out of control.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 14:49 (yesterday) Permalink

terrible. i don't know when the last time they held the festival in the desert. for years i dreamt of going and now it looks like i'll never get the chance :/

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 14:54 (yesterday) Permalink

that Boilen quote re: Moctar caught my eye, too. i mean, the album is one of my favorites of the new year so far, but maybe pump the brakes just a tad, Bob.

alpine static, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 15:25 (yesterday) Permalink

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