s: Otto -- he's put out two albums. the first "Samba Pra Burro" is a great mix of beautiful brazilian melodies mixed with tons of electronics. some super heavy jungle breaks, but always the song comes first. his second album is "Condom Black". way less reliant on the electronic dance beats, but still some remnants. it's almost apt to describe him on this album as a male Bebel Gilberto. some of the songs are a little too sweet, but it's a great album nonetheless.
Tom Ze, even though he's an oldie, his music is still a goodie. forget the fact that Tortoise was his back up band.
d:Ed Motta. one of the worst albums i've ever heard in my life. i listened to it once and instantly sold it back. he's supposed to be brazilian soul, but it was really bad slick over produced modern disco.
Rita Lee. ex-lead singer of the mutantes. i picked up one of her recent solo albums for way cheap. it was completely boring AOR. kinda like a brazilian Sting.
Max De Castro. cool looking cover. kinda ick music. pretty much does modern american r'n'b in portugese. there were some nice soulful moments, but most of it was just way too slick.
on the dividing line:Mundo Livre S.A. this is Otto's band before he went solo. they're part of that whole Mangue beat sound. had some good songs. did a bunch of genre-fucks, but my biggest problem with them was that they were around in the mid-90s and kinda had that grunge-alternative sound. i often wondered if they weren't from brazil, would i really like them? so i sold it.
still wondering about Carlinhos Brown and Chico Science. never heard them, but heard lots about them. and i hear there's some brazilian hip hop out there?
― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
they normally sound like this, "Even though this isn't our favorite of [so and so]'s album, we still think it's great and you should buy it"
― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Never ever trust a Dusty Groove review 'cuz they refer to free jazz as "hippy dippy."
― hstencil, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
but i thought that was obvious
― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Pretty spot on, Jason except you forgot the obigatory exclamation point!
Does anyone else find this extremely annoying!
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:18 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:20 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
You're right, above, about Dusty Groove and their reviews, although the store itself in Chicago is kinda nice and they do have good stuff if you're into classic '60s Brazilian pop and suchlike...
― Jess Hill (jesshill), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:25 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 06:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
i actually have a song by Otto ona comp, it's an intensely moody tribute to Bob Marley and it really rolls, i've liked it for years.
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 06:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 13:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
Jason, you should definitely check out Chico Science – I think he was brilliant and his death seemed like the end of era and maybe death of mangue (friends of mine in Brazil who work with music were devastated when he died). The scene seems to be going strong tho and his old band Nacao Zumbi is still putting stuff out. I’d recommend checking out Chico first and then if you like him going for NZ. Start with “Afrociberdelia” as it should give you a sense of whether you want to go further or not.
Lately I’ve been enjoying DJ Dolores & Orchestra Santa Massa, which has traditional fiddle, etc over various beats. I don’t love the entire entire album but the first couple of tracks get me grinning ear-to-ear whenever I listen to ‘em. The DJ approach to mangue.
Zuco 103 takes a different approach to mixing electronica with Brazilian. It is more clubbeats oriented as opposed to mangue etc. and live at least Zuco are huge amounts of fun. Their new album has gotten pretty good reviews , but their first “Outro Lado” had only about 4 songs I really liked with the rest being ‘eh’ so I’m waiting for a free copy.
Lenine’s album “Na Prassao” is great. Samba mixed with rock and electronica is a v. basic description. Most people I know who are more knowledgeable about the contemp. scene than me are are big fans.
Others I like if not blown away - Pedro Luis A Parade (again mixing electronica/brazilian but from a more rock perspective) Suba (pretty strightforward samba & bossa nova over loops, “Sao Paulo Confessions” is his big work – he also produced, among others, Bebel’s "Tanto Tempo")
Seen Max de Castro but have no memory of his performance (generally not a positive sign)
From the second generation of Brazilians, as mentioned above, Bebel is doing good stuff. Only heard one track by Moreno Veloso so can’t really comment on him tho that one track was v. funky. (incidentally, one of the biggest Brazilian labels Trama (who I think put out Otto) is run by the son of Elis Regina)
All I can think of for now, will post later if brain comes back online.
― H (Heruy), Friday, 14 March 2003 14:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Jess Hill (jesshill), Friday, 14 March 2003 14:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
anyone heard either and have comments? they sound pretty cool from the amg and amazon reviews.
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 22:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:08 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
i recently picked up Rita Lee's first album "Build Up" and have been really digging it. it was produced by one of the guys from the Mutantes, so it is still a little wacky, but has more of a big band orchestration thing going on for the beginning of the album at least (near the end it gets a bit more rocking). but i swear, the more recent album of hers i bought (from the mid to late 90s) was the pits. her charming puns would be totally lost on me since i don't speak Portuguese.
any word on those two artists i just mentioned upthread?
― JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 23:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Daniel (dancity), Thursday, 15 May 2003 07:02 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
the marquee and amabis discs are nice enough. nice being the word to watch.
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 15 May 2003 08:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 15 May 2003 09:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 May 2003 11:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink
anybody listening to the new Ceu album?
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:04 (nine years ago) Permalink
I'm curious about it, but have not heard it yet. Not that I was wowed by her prior one, but it wasn't bad.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:17 (nine years ago) Permalink
Yeah I only felt the need to download one of the tracks from the last album. I'm 11 tracks into this one (out of 13), and it's pretty good!
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 9 July 2009 16:24 (nine years ago) Permalink
Nobody here into Curumin?
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 10 July 2009 00:09 (nine years ago) Permalink
i am now!
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 10 July 2009 00:13 (nine years ago) Permalink
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:10 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark
^^^^Listening to this great track, "Bob", right now: I have it on a comp too, What's Happening in Pernambuco, which is great throughout -- but I don't think this was out in 2003, so what comp do you have it on?
I had no idea it was about Marley.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 10 July 2009 01:11 (nine years ago) Permalink
I believe Curumin is still to make his best album, but I really like the other two
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 10 July 2009 01:27 (nine years ago) Permalink
Curumin was appearing in Central Park (summerstage) NYC with Juana Molina Wednesday night. Alas, I'm in DC and no gig here
― curmudgeon, Friday, 10 July 2009 03:17 (nine years ago) Permalink
Has anyone listened to the new Céu album? Sounds to me like a dub version of a Brightblack Morning Light record with some Brazilian textures - obviously. I think sometimes her music lacks punch, but it's a good album overall.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:03 (nine years ago) Permalink
ed mottas that bad?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 24 July 2009 13:09 (nine years ago) Permalink
No, but I can't say he does outstanding work.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:23 (nine years ago) Permalink
You're so 2 weeks ago, Shin
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 24 July 2009 14:19 (nine years ago) Permalink
hahaha, I really am.
this guy in NYT wrote nice things about her http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/arts/music/23ceu.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=c%C3%A9u&st=cse
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 24 July 2009 14:53 (nine years ago) Permalink
Orquestra Contemporânea de Olinda,from Northeast Brazil is touring the US now with its rock meets frevo(Brazilian brass band) meets ska sound
,Apr 1 2010 8:00P LINCOLN CENTER - NEW YORK New York, New YorkApr 3 2010 10:00P SOB´S - NEW YORK NEW YORK, New YorkApr 5 2010 6:00P KENNEDY CENTER - WASHINGTON Washington, WashingtonApr 6 2010 8:00P RUMBA - CHICAGO Chicago, IllinoisApr 7 2010 8:00P PERCUSSION AND BRASS WORKSHOP IN NEW ORLEANS New Orleans, LouisianaApr 8 2010 8:00P workshop Maciel Salú, Tiné and SHOW in New Orleans New Orleans, LouisianaApr 9 2010 8:00P HEINEKEN TRANSATLANTIC Miami, FloridaApr 16 2010 9:00P AUDITÓRIO IBIRAPUERA - SP São Paulo, São PauloApr 17 2010 9:00P Teatro - OI FUTURO IPANEMA Rio de janeiro, Rio de JaneiroApr 18 2010 8:00P Teatro - OI FUTURO IPANEMA Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 03:48 (eight years ago) Permalink
Here's a youtube of 'em. The Washington DC show Monday night is actually from 6 to 7 and is free.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 04:06 (eight years ago) Permalink
I'm looking forward to seeing them tonight.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 5 April 2010 14:59 (eight years ago) Permalink
Anybody see anything in this fest?
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 24 July 2010 05:22 (eight years ago) Permalink
I want to again mention that Maria Rita is great. I don't quite get the neglect. Maybe she's too simple? Anyway, she's certainly not in the tropicalia vein, and she's not doing crazy electronic/metal/atonal mashups, so that may contribute to a lack of interest.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 24 July 2010 13:16 (eight years ago) Permalink
I confess that I have never previously heard of Ivete Sangalo, Brazil's biggest pop star, who just sold out a show at Madison Square Garden in NYC.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 September 2010 21:50 (seven years ago) Permalink
I'm trusting the word of Jon Pareles, from the NY Times, that she's the biggest current Brazilian pop star.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 September 2010 21:55 (seven years ago) Permalink
The encore part must have been great.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:23 (seven years ago) Permalink
I liked that more than I expected to. Why haven't any of our local Brazilian experts mentioned this person before (or have they)?
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 03:48 (seven years ago) Permalink
Sangalo is definitely "not my beach" as they say in Brazil. Her tinny rhythms and shrill voice used to get right on my nerves when I was over there.
― Daniel Giraffe, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 09:33 (seven years ago) Permalink
any opinions on fabiano do nascimento's "tempo dos mestres"?
― the late great, Monday, 6 March 2017 03:48 (one year ago) Permalink
Listening to it for the first time now! Plus I looked at a bio. He's a Los Angeles based Brazilian guitarist who is more jazzy than I like, but that's just my preference. Not bad. Only a few songs in...
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 March 2017 03:05 (one year ago) Permalink
Curious about Danilo Brito, Brazilian choro bandleader who is doing some North American dates
― curmudgeon, Monday, 27 March 2017 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink
Listened to him myself. He plays mandolin and 4 string guitar. His version of choro has he and 3 other stringed instrument players plus a percussionist. It sounds a bit like ragtime. Choro is one of the oldest Brazilian styles and is still around. It melds European classical with waltzes and a bit of African rhythm.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 31 March 2017 19:39 (one year ago) Permalink
Elza Soares is getting a remix album, plus will be doing gigs in Europe and 2 NYC shows (a RedBull Academy one in May; a Summerstage one in August) [Pitchfork had a little press release type item on this.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 8 May 2017 14:26 (one year ago) Permalink
What's a couple years to Elza. There's a video:
― No one is THAT ackbar (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 05:00 (one year ago) Permalink
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 23:54 (one year ago) Permalink
Psychelelic soul of sorts, from Sao Paulo:
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Saturday, 10 June 2017 23:42 (one year ago) Permalink
Here's a list of someone's favourite Brazilian albums of the year so far: http://miojoindie.com.br/os-25-melhores-discos-de-2017-ate-agora/
I've dipped in to a couple and it's been mostly offbeat psych-rock so far.
― Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 16 June 2017 08:21 (one year ago) Permalink
Really enjoying the Criolo album at the moment. On first hearing it's like an up-to-date Cartola.
― Daniel Giraffe, Friday, 16 June 2017 08:49 (one year ago) Permalink
Enjoying Fabiano do Nascimento's Tempo Dos Mestres so far (just 1.756 tracks in).
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 2 October 2017 03:49 (ten months ago) Permalink
I want to listen to this but I also want to watch a Pavlina Tcherneva video on Job Guarantee programs. Soon I will want to go to bed; then wake up, and not want to go to work.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 2 October 2017 04:06 (ten months ago) Permalink
that album sounds good - but what do you mean 1756 tracks? :O
― niels, Monday, 2 October 2017 16:48 (ten months ago) Permalink
Just being silly about the portion of the album I had heard (not quite two whole songs). There was a decimal.
Probably all to airy for me right now. There was a cover of a familiar song but I can't remember what it was (let alone the title). Possibly something by Baden Powell.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 2 October 2017 23:14 (ten months ago) Permalink
Ha I didn't look up anything about the Fabiano do Nascimento album, didn't even realise that my favourite song ("O Tempo") is uh inspired by one of my favourite Gilberto Gil songs ("Marginalia II"). Some background here for the non-clued-in: http://www.afropop.org/34735/tempo-dos-mestres/
― Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:17 (ten months ago) Permalink
listened to that Nascimento record a few times now, it's gorgeous
any other of his I should check out?
― niels, Monday, 16 October 2017 18:49 (ten months ago) Permalink
Guess I should listen again. Listened once and wasn't wowed
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 03:08 (ten months ago) Permalink
Liked some of it but not all on another listen.
Now listening to avante/artsy and Tropicalia inspired Negro Leo on his 2017 bandcmp release Action Lekking. He released several efforts in 2017. Chicago Reader writer Peter Margasak put Action in his top 40 for the year.
Also saw on Instagram video of Cortejo Afro, a nice Salvador percussion bloco.
Cortejo Afro was formed and made its Carnival debut on July 2, 1998 in the streets of Pirajá, a community in Salvador. The Bloco is rooted in the spiritual guidance and principles of an established Candomblé house in Salvador, Ilê Axé Oyá, and Cortejo Afro’s artistic design and Afrocentric creative expression was founded by artist Alberto Pitta. Concerned about the predominance of Axé music, Cortejo Afro was formed in an attempt to reestablish the African identity of Carnival. http://www.batalawashington.com/founding-of-cortejo-afro/
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 6 January 2018 22:26 (seven months ago) Permalink
Ava Rocha is doing 5 gigs in the US--Starting in Philadelphia on the 12th and then doing 3 NYC area gigs and a DC one (a free one at the Kennedy center that will be video=streamed live on the 17th, 6 to 7 pm est)
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 6 January 2018 22:42 (seven months ago) Permalink
Banda Dida...It's Carnival time in Brazil
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 February 2018 01:44 (six months ago) Permalink
The last 3 Tom Ze albums are ace. I'm partial to 2014's A Dog in the Milky Way out of the three, but 2012's Tropicalia Trash Logic and 2016's Cançoes Eróticas De Ninar (his most straightforward set of pop tunes in a long time) are great. Can't think of another pop artist in his 80s who's doing such vital work.
― eddhurt, Sunday, 11 February 2018 05:43 (six months ago) Permalink
Didn't realize he was that old. His "pop" used to be pretty out there, but I haven't listened in a long time.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 February 2018 06:15 (six months ago) Permalink
I'm liking this 2017 Criolo album Espiral de Ilusão
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 11 February 2018 06:19 (six months ago) Permalink
anyone recommend brazilian music documentaries?
― niels, Sunday, 11 February 2018 11:37 (six months ago) Permalink
but which kind of Brazilian music?
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 11 February 2018 14:44 (six months ago) Permalink
anything really, but I guess samba would be the big one, tropicalia would probably be awesome
― niels, Sunday, 11 February 2018 16:11 (six months ago) Permalink
kind of hard to find one with english subtitles. anyway: https://acasadevidro.com/2016/01/26/70-documentarios-completos-sobre-musica-brasileira-sua-historia-a-casa-de-vidro-com/
have you seen this one?
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 12 February 2018 15:35 (six months ago) Permalink
x-post The Guardian on that 2017 Criolo album:
Criolo’s latest album will startle many of his fans. The popular Brazilian rapper and singer is best known for mixing hip-hop with anything from reggae and funk to samba, but on this release, he switches exclusively to samba, with a relaxed set dominated by his often crooned, no-nonsense vocals, with backing provided not by keyboards and programming but by the tiny, guitar-like cavaquinho (played by a member of Pagode da 27, a neighbourhood samba project in São Paulo), along with seven-stringed guitar, percussion and brass. Many of his new songs sound like tuneful old classics, but there is an angry, contemporary edge to the lyrics (although sadly no English translations are provided
― curmudgeon, Monday, 12 February 2018 19:31 (six months ago) Permalink
I still haven't checked on this new Criolo album but I like him
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 12 February 2018 20:10 (six months ago) Permalink
xp thanks, that should keep me busy for a while!
BBC doc was cool too, wish it was 10 hours long (and questioning the standard narrative a bit more)
― niels, Monday, 12 February 2018 21:19 (six months ago) Permalink
2 years ago the wife and I made our first visit to Brazil and loved Carnival in both Bahia/Salvador and Rio. Seeing FB and Instagram postings the last few days has me missing it.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 12 February 2018 22:03 (six months ago) Permalink
Ile Aiye are one of the most important blocos in Carnival in Bahia
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 04:34 (six months ago) Permalink
Another part of Brazil celebrates Carnival a bit differently
― curmudgeon, Friday, 16 February 2018 21:23 (six months ago) Permalink
Carlinhos Brown's Instagram account is a lot of fun. Lots of Bahia carnival footage recently. I still need to check out his 2017 album that Xchuckxx Eddy put in his Village Voice Pazz & Jop top 10
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 17:56 (six months ago) Permalink
Carlinhos Brown's Semelhantes album from 2017 does not appear to be listed in his English language Wiki bio or his Allmusic.com discography
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 17:59 (six months ago) Permalink
I feel like this is not the type of music I'm supposed to post itt but maybe someone can point me towards a rolling thread where it fits? In case you find it crass I can say it works perfectly in a club, you're drunk, dancing, and it's very very loud
― niels, Sunday, 25 February 2018 17:17 (five months ago) Permalink
That’s fine here...It’s modern Brazilian music. Whether Anitta feels she is being exploited is another question.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:01 (five months ago) Permalink
cool, glad to hear that
has there been negative stories surrounding the song? seems like a pretty big hit
― niels, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:23 (five months ago) Permalink
aaw fucks sake I see now it's a Terry Richardson video - why the fuck that guy keeps getting work is beyond me
― niels, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:27 (five months ago) Permalink
Elza Soares is back. Deus é Mulher released May 17.
― Chaos reigns... in my pants (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:37 (two months ago) Permalink
Given the delay for UK/US release for A Mulher do Fim do Mundo, the anglophone press will probably praise it in 2020...
― Chaos reigns... in my pants (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 18:42 (two months ago) Permalink
Ha. It is on US Spotify now, not sure about other formats.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:18 (one month ago) Permalink
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 July 2018 04:45 (one month ago) Permalink
― niels, Friday, 13 July 2018 08:50 (one month ago) Permalink
did he really say "caramba" though
― niels, Friday, 13 July 2018 08:52 (one month ago) Permalink
Did he really toss the Lapa neighborhood, favelas, and Sugarloaf Mountain all together in one paragraph
― curmudgeon, Friday, 13 July 2018 12:52 (one month ago) Permalink
mentions albums such as:
Various ArtistsReal Rio: rock, pop, noise and electronic music from Rio de Janeiro
Chinese Cookie Poets-
Juçara Marçal & Cadu Tenório
― curmudgeon, Monday, 16 July 2018 04:02 (one month ago) Permalink
I need to catch up on both the Bandcamp stuff above (though it might be too experimental for my tastes) and this afropop podcast below
Brazil has seen its ups and downs since it became an independent empire in 1822: strongman leaders, military rule, populist democracy and more. In 2018, a politically weary nation faces a stark electoral choice between radically different futures. But whatever was happening in the halls of power, Brazil has always produced powerful, beautiful and ecstatic music, and always known how to party. On Afropop’s 2018 return trip to Brazil, We take a deep dive into the music and evolution of Carnaval in Salvador, Bahia, and dig into new developments in MPB, roots and rock from Pernambuco, Baile funk, new sounds from Amazonia and more from one of the most prolific musical nations on earth.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 13 August 2018 17:27 (one week ago) Permalink
Stern's music website says folks who buy stuff from them still like Criolo 's ESPIRAL DE ILUSAO from December 2017
― curmudgeon, Monday, 13 August 2018 19:15 (one week ago) Permalink
Still behind in listening to the above. I guess you all are also.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 12:30 (six days ago) Permalink