Why do people leave ILX for good?

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I have found myself missing some old posters, and really can't imagine why anyone would just leave and literally never come back.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
specific user such as imago 25
no one has left ILX 20
hate everything 12
greener cyberpastures 11
demands of career 9
content 5
midlife shift to hardline conservatism 5
ILM 4
other please specify 4
demands of family life 3
dissatisfaction with available stylesheets 2
price 1


rip van wanko, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:39 (one year ago) link

no "arsenal are boring and shit" category?

plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:43 (one year ago) link

nabisco posted a cpl weeks ago and no one noticed

sleepingbag, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:43 (one year ago) link

*improvements in sex toy technology* suspiciously absent from your choices.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:43 (one year ago) link

*reads through list* hmmm yeah ok hmm maybe hmm HEY WAIT

imago, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:46 (one year ago) link

picked user at random, promise!

rip van wanko, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:47 (one year ago) link

I don't approve of any one person being singled out in a poll. even a Cardiacs fan.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:48 (one year ago) link

altho I literally did drive someone off ILX last year and still feel shitty about it :(

imago, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:48 (one year ago) link

Voted 'demands of career' although I don't really have a career, just a job. I haven't posted on ILX much in the last 2-3 years because of it.

2018 has to be better (snoball), Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:51 (one year ago) link

*noticeable lack of Geir* should have also been an option.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1330670254/come_to_hongro_400x400.jpg

scott seward, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:52 (one year ago) link

Imago

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:54 (one year ago) link

what's the difference between "content" and "hate everything"?

sarahell, Saturday, 24 February 2018 21:00 (one year ago) link

I really don't see myself ever leaving ILX.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 24 February 2018 21:03 (one year ago) link

i was thinking hate everything in a more general sense, not hate everything about the site xp

rip van wanko, Saturday, 24 February 2018 21:03 (one year ago) link

"trump made everything boring"

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 February 2018 21:04 (one year ago) link

i voted 'demands of career' and just happened to be checking back in to ilx as this was posted. i love this website but shiiiit man i got shit to do.

plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 February 2018 21:07 (one year ago) link

I call bullshit AHH I called into covent garden last time I was in London and no sign of u

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 February 2018 21:16 (one year ago) link

"price" doesn't really reflect the whole idea of "cost-benefit analysis"

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

"content" as in they are content to no longer be on ILX or as in they don't like ILX's content?

had (crüt), Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:25 (one year ago) link

other please specify: death

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:31 (one year ago) link

Also if Imago now suddenly leaves, that's on you Rip van Winko

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:33 (one year ago) link

Winko wanko potato potato

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:33 (one year ago) link

the real answer is right in the thread title. they want to banish evil from their hearts.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:38 (one year ago) link

other: useless moderators creating problems

mod, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:40 (one year ago) link

Truth xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:40 (one year ago) link

I dont work in Covent garden?

plums (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:40 (one year ago) link

Other: pourquoi pas?

pomenitul, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:56 (one year ago) link

earlier today i somehow found myself viewing a 1991 channel 4 ad break on youtube, and there in the comments was r0bin c4rmody somehow pinpointing the exact date. so my answer is, other: youtube comment section culture more intellectually stimulating

redpilled, joined 4Chan

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:59 (one year ago) link

You could've told me that sam

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:02 (one year ago) link

All best posters gone to twitter

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:03 (one year ago) link

Lol not rly

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:03 (one year ago) link

I can think of at least a couple of people who were basically hounded out of here. Whatever you thought about their posting, not pleasant.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:09 (one year ago) link

So what's Racoon Tanuki like irl?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:12 (one year ago) link

Let me clarify: regular, non-joke people.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:14 (one year ago) link

Poll

Planck Blather (darraghmac), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:14 (one year ago) link

It's sad Garu was a G

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:33 (one year ago) link

i will never log off

ciderpress, Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:47 (one year ago) link

maybe they forget the url

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:58 (one year ago) link

end up on the greenspun forums, keep posting there wondering where everybody went

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:58 (one year ago) link

jealous of the tireless breast-beating over ex-posters and want in on some of that action

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:59 (one year ago) link

figure they'll never get a macarthur grant if they keep fucking around on internet message boards

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 February 2018 00:00 (one year ago) link

sudden onset of ambition to do something with life?
moved out of internet range?
lost password during change of residence?
realized Excelsior threads had lost their mojo?
finished dissertation and no longer needed so much distraction?

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 25 February 2018 01:06 (one year ago) link

They become rockists

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 25 February 2018 01:31 (one year ago) link

Realized they were wasting their witty posts here and moved to Twitter?

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 25 February 2018 01:33 (one year ago) link

marginalized by being called trolls

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 25 February 2018 01:40 (one year ago) link

New thread viewing algorithm is bullshit to enslave users

Global Arming's Terrifying Old Math$ (Hunt3r), Sunday, 25 February 2018 01:55 (one year ago) link

i can’t leave now, it’s too late, i even think in lowercase

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 25 February 2018 02:01 (one year ago) link

finally heard every record worth hearing

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 February 2018 02:37 (one year ago) link

See also: why do people stay on IlX

calstars, Sunday, 25 February 2018 03:38 (one year ago) link

Sunk cost fallacy

Colonel Poo, Sunday, 25 February 2018 03:41 (one year ago) link

forgot my password to life

j., Sunday, 25 February 2018 03:44 (one year ago) link

altho I literally did drive someone off ILX last year and still feel shitty about it :(

Embrace it imo

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 February 2018 04:19 (one year ago) link

reddit also has boards with blue material, if you're into that sort of thing

milquetoast malone (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 25 February 2018 11:18 (one year ago) link

Lots of people in limbo as well

bald butte (∞), Sunday, 25 February 2018 11:19 (one year ago) link

Missing option for Unhappy With American Domination of ILX.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 February 2018 11:22 (one year ago) link

U wadi not mi wadi

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 11:23 (one year ago) link

actually I reckon they'll all come back when dom is unbanned

milquetoast malone (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 25 February 2018 11:27 (one year ago) link

Worth trying

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 11:53 (one year ago) link

See also: why do people stay on IlX

― calstars, Saturday, February 24, 2018 10:38 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Forgot how to maintain face-to-face relationships.

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Sunday, 25 February 2018 12:44 (one year ago) link

“leaving” a website is a strange concept since people really just go to other websites, and coming back is just really “hey i’ll type that url again”

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 12:50 (one year ago) link

I don't think people really do leave ILX here for good, they are locked in the servers like the end of "San Junipero"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 25 February 2018 14:31 (one year ago) link

Why do people leave ILX for bad?

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 February 2018 16:50 (one year ago) link

All my favorite posters got banned during the sb wars around 2008 and presumably found better things to do with their lives

Dan I., Sunday, 25 February 2018 17:25 (one year ago) link

who besides dom and ethan?

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 25 February 2018 17:26 (one year ago) link

have kids or get a real job

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 25 February 2018 17:34 (one year ago) link

ILM

Sweet memories are made of this

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:17 (one year ago) link

never understood the hate of ILM on ILE

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

I don't hate ILM. I am simply a bad fit for the culture there, so I avoid it. Near as I can tell, the incidence of clusterfucks is similar between ILM and ILE, so it isn't as if one is a snake pit and not the other.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:42 (one year ago) link

For one thing for a board called I Love Music there's a load of people hating music on it

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:42 (one year ago) link

Fahrenheit v. Celsius
Aussie rules elections
Zizek

El Tomboto, Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:43 (one year ago) link

To hate music is to love music xp.

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:45 (one year ago) link

perforated ulcers

scotti pruitti (wins), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:46 (one year ago) link

For one thing for a board called I Love Music there's a load of people hating music on it

As opposed to hating everything on ILE.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

Fahrenheit v. Celsius
Aussie rules elections


unsubscribe cape ✅

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:56 (one year ago) link

Opening a thread on the shitpostiest subforum on this site and getting mad is so excellent

scotti pruitti (wins), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:58 (one year ago) link

otm, it’s like deleting your amazon account because you really hate trampolines

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:59 (one year ago) link

never understood the hate of ILM on ILE

― Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:38 (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dude

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:10 (one year ago) link

I don't really differentiate between ILM & ILE, tbh?

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:13 (one year ago) link

Same

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:15 (one year ago) link

Dudes

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:16 (one year ago) link

"was never real in the first place"

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:19 (one year ago) link

ilm is higher on the behave-yourself scale

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:19 (one year ago) link

ILM hate is boring as fuck tbh.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:44 (one year ago) link

The unbannable multisockpuppetheaded hydra who is 2/3s of the posters.

Three Word Username, Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

Since SNA who cares what board anything is on?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

Exactly

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:47 (one year ago) link

You've changed yr tune Tom!

TWU otm

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:49 (one year ago) link

Tom D means the hate is not strong enough.

nashwan, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:01 (one year ago) link

need spicier hate...

scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:08 (one year ago) link

Every time I check in it feels like going back to my old high school and finding everyone I went to school with still there wandering the halls and muttering to themselves

— Mark Slutsky (@totallyslutsky) January 8, 2018

flopson, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:09 (one year ago) link

I found ILX through ILM around 2001 or 2002. I prefer ILE and then the noize board. And then I left all of it for about 10 years except a maybe 2 times a year check in. ~3 months ago I started checking it every day. I'm not a social media person and I still have contact with old ilxors in person. I dunno. Sometimes I feel like venting without wanting to see likes or being notified of responses.

Yerac, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:11 (one year ago) link

xpost, yeah, I am/was super surprised about all the old ilxors on here still posting regularly.

Yerac, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:13 (one year ago) link

Can we post tweets now

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:14 (one year ago) link

xp why did you leave?

new noise, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:16 (one year ago) link

talk about muttering to yourself...

Tweets
35.3K

scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:20 (one year ago) link

ya but

Followers
3,149
Likes
10.8K

flopson, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:23 (one year ago) link

when ilx was great, it was easily my favourite thing on the web

flopson, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:25 (one year ago) link

nobody remembers anything that anyone writes on twitter. its the epitome of mumbling down a hallway.

scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:27 (one year ago) link

(xposts) I imagine I'll bail one day--not out of malice, I hope--but I can't ever imagine preferring Twitter to ILX. Not a knock on Mark, but Twitter's ridiculous. The whole idea of it makes me think of "Hank's Thoughts" from Hank Kingsley's fanzine: "I could really go for a Creamsicle right now."

clemenza, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:29 (one year ago) link

when ilx was great, it was easily my favourite thing on the web

guessing you’re talking about the so not gonna happen/WHOSE ARM IS THAT?????/roll up the rim to win era

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:30 (one year ago) link

talking like 07-13

flopson, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:32 (one year ago) link

agree w/flopson

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:33 (one year ago) link

i can't be the only person who is still here because i've been here so long. who else would have me? i just use it now as a respite from facebook. i don't even consider ilx a part of the larger internet. it exists outside of time and space. and i've said it before so i'll say it again: most message boards/communities on the web are horror shows of dumb and sadness.

also totally makes sense to me that a lot of people i knew here who started writing more and more seriously and more professionally would stop typing so much somewhere for free. it takes mental energy out of you.

scott seward, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:36 (one year ago) link

To hate music is to love music xp.

Eternal borad description imo

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:39 (one year ago) link

xpost — Rather.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:52 (one year ago) link

Sometimes because we’ve got a lot of thinking to do on our own.

You guys don’t have a “post your Letterboxd” thread around here these days? How far underground did you have to go?

https://letterboxd.com/cbf/

servoret, Sunday, 25 February 2018 23:52 (one year ago) link

i cant imagine leaving ilx simply because there's people who I like and love to read on ilx who wont add me on facebook/pretend they dont do facebook because they dont like me, so where else am I going to read what they say?

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:03 (one year ago) link

I’ve been spending more time on ILX because I’m not doing twitter anymore, ILX somehow healthier of a pastime.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:23 (one year ago) link

Anyway the heat death of ILX will be no activity for 17 years and then deems bumping a thread with five posts from 2004 saying “did we ever get this sorted” and then another six years and then the final poll results will arrive

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:25 (one year ago) link

that will be a whiney poll then

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:27 (one year ago) link

xp will probably chose that very post fyi

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:38 (one year ago) link

Flooding/JCLC otm

ID politics killed ilx btw

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:43 (one year ago) link

Flopson

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:43 (one year ago) link

I started reading in 2001, posting in 2003 and left b/c of major life upheaval in 2010. I posted very occasionally for the next six years b/c of work, relationship, and feeling like things had gotten a little nastier.

But last year I quit Facebook and simultaneously realized that I have very little time to socialize IRL. And I thought about it for a while and realized that the fake and Zucker-mediated unfulfilling socializing of Facebook had taken over for the (much more) fulfilling socializing I achieve in this board. So I’m back, but I genuinely don’t know whose username corresponds to whom any more, and I just kind of assume yer all my old friends.

I miss Slocki and Chaki and tabren and Beth Parker and Maria and Jon and Ian and Jaq and Vic and Nabisco and Crump and a lot of the alexes of various cities, Elvis Telecom, rogermexico, dean, gear, tep, many, many more... and I love the little snippets from the Minnesota crew, remaining noize dudes, tombot, and laurel, and jbr, ned, morbs, Mississippi shakedown, Jess, Soto, Seattle folx, brits, darragh, chil-xors, Whiney, antipodeans and sheepfuckers, laxors, Boston types...the the teacher crew. Probably forgot heaps of you too. I actually got a lot of love for y’all, and w/o Facebook I’m here for the long haul.

rb (soda), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:48 (one year ago) link

"most message boards/communities on the web are horror shows of dumb and sadness." is otm. Even in these grey senescent days there's just nowhere else where people aren't complete fucking idiots.

Dan I., Monday, 26 February 2018 00:49 (one year ago) link

ID politics killed ilx btw

Not really

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:52 (one year ago) link

Yeah I don't even really believe it myself silby

Point being tho, right, that christ even saying it five years ago would have started a magnificent riot by now

Ah good times

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:55 (one year ago) link

The various exoduses (is that right) would make a good study maybe, what threads caused what tranche to leave

The learnings could be the next Hawthorne study

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:58 (one year ago) link

We can still get people blood libeling each other sometimes but it’s not the same as a multi-way pileup it’s true xp

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:58 (one year ago) link

I note soda's having separated me from britcrew above btw it's appreciated surely

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 00:59 (one year ago) link

Can i get a pointer to the last good blood libel, I'm not sleeping.

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:00 (one year ago) link

soda doesnt like the scots?

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:10 (one year ago) link

He's within his rights and may have his reasons.

Also, it's "the scotch" fyi

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:11 (one year ago) link

that's whisky.

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:12 (one year ago) link

deej vs forks is much fiercer and more genuinely ill-meant than anyone rly expected

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 01:16 (one year ago) link

also at least 3 of rb's miss list still post regularly iirc

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 01:18 (one year ago) link

make that 5 or 6

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 01:18 (one year ago) link

more than that i reckon.

i stick aroun’ cos fb has become dire and i just don’t GET twitter/tumblr one whit.

i’d happily go back to usenet if anyone’d still use it.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:28 (one year ago) link

tipping

mookieproof, Monday, 26 February 2018 01:49 (one year ago) link

It reaches a point alright

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 01:49 (one year ago) link

why do people leave ilx for ill?

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Monday, 26 February 2018 02:14 (one year ago) link

we call that graduating

rip van wanko, Monday, 26 February 2018 02:18 (one year ago) link

why do people leave ILX for evil?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmKtJsLCcAES4aI.jpg

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 26 February 2018 02:42 (one year ago) link

I would have assumed demands of family life or career would have stopped me from posting by now. I've been a lurker/low volume poster for probably about 12 years now, but with 3 kids + full time job without a huge amount of down time I'm sometimes surprised by how much I've become attached to this place (this is by far my most used web site).

This place has become my most reliable provider of music/movie/tv recommendations, which is pretty important when you actually don't have the time to watch a lot tv and movies (I can at least listen to a lot of music when working). So yeah, I'm probably going to keep doing my one post every 2 weeks thing for a while yet.

silverfish, Monday, 26 February 2018 02:52 (one year ago) link

i like instagram! i like pictures. i don't post anything because i don't have a phone. i like seeing my friends' pictures though and nothing but the pictures. it is really good pr for the store too. much better than facebook ever was and all i do is have rufus post pictures of records.

i can't stand twitter. never liked it. always avoid it.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 03:03 (one year ago) link

one post every 2 weeks

goals

El Tomboto, Monday, 26 February 2018 03:06 (one year ago) link

Oh, I know a lot of my list still post. I just have no idea who they are, and I like to read a lot of posts by unknown/different names and think, gee... I wonder if that’s X? And I don’t need to confirm it because if it’s not by X it makes me sad.

True fact tho: I hav yo post almost exclusively from my phone (typos probably make that obvious) because work owns my computer and blocks it from non-work sites... and incidentally there’s no cellular/WiFi signal at work. So posting is limited to vacations, evenings I’m not teaching, and cool-downs from the treadmill at the gym.

Love to Scots posters, to you I raise a crumb-soaked egg. And also the China ILXors, wherever you may be.

rb (soda), Monday, 26 February 2018 03:15 (one year ago) link

I voted other and I guess just the relative dearth of users compared to the old days and that fact that many good posters who used to post a lot no longer post is surely one of the biggest issues. I have thought about leaving for good but I come back due to, I dunno, sentimental reasons? I follow v few ilxors on social media so if I leave I'll never hear about posters here that I've *known* via this website for over a decade, would be weird. Like if imago gets hit by a bus tomorrow I'd like to be privy to that information

khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 04:48 (one year ago) link

You guys are the best. Thanks for kicking the shit out of me back in the day.

servoret, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:53 (one year ago) link

here to help

El Tomboto, Monday, 26 February 2018 04:55 (one year ago) link

I'd post a lot less (ie prob never) if I only had phone access as I also find it a PITA to type.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 26 February 2018 04:57 (one year ago) link

i'd post a lot more but suspect that people get tired of my obscure aussie rules elections references rather quickly - and if you're fanging for that, check out my 17,844 tweets

milquetoast malone (King Boy Pato), Monday, 26 February 2018 09:31 (one year ago) link

i can’t leave now, it’s too late, i even think in lowercase

truth bomb

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 09:52 (one year ago) link

whatever i said whatever i did i didnt mean i just want to leave ilx for good

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 26 February 2018 10:00 (one year ago) link

discussed this thread with 2 ex-posters in the last 24 hours

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 10:42 (one year ago) link

talking like 07-13

― flopson, Sunday, 25 February 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kids today.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 February 2018 11:27 (one year ago) link

xp outcomes plz

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 11:34 (one year ago) link

i'm going to quit posting because i didn't make rb's rollcall

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 February 2018 11:37 (one year ago) link

wow owned

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, 26 February 2018 11:38 (one year ago) link

Totes honorary britcrew son stand down

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 11:39 (one year ago) link

Moving on / generational switch? Seems to me at least, when now reading old ilx posts.

Max Florian, Monday, 26 February 2018 12:11 (one year ago) link

xxxxpost I like slutsky a lot but I thought that tweet flopson posted was really dickish and smug.

overall I like it and I wish all you find internet posters the best.

but you know, I've always said ilx bemoaning the downfall of ilx is ilx's greatest tradition.

to the point where now, for example, the era flopson views as the glory days was at the time viewed as a decline from ilx's golden age.

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 February 2018 12:26 (one year ago) link

ilx: why is it so bad and hated

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 12:30 (one year ago) link

xp that's an essential truth alright

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 12:30 (one year ago) link

the decline posts started less than a year after the advent of ILM

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 12:53 (one year ago) link

before we even left greenspun

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 12:53 (one year ago) link

Ha, yeah. 07-13 didn't really stand out as exceptional in my memory at first but there were some good polls and listening clubs then tbf.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:08 (one year ago) link

social media as self-promotional arena(s) require(s) regular platform migration by committed opportunists

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:19 (one year ago) link

what if I told you...the golden age hasn't happened yet

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 13:20 (one year ago) link

I ain't going anywhere.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:21 (one year ago) link

the roman empire never ended iirc

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:21 (one year ago) link

ilx, our collective black iron prison

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:22 (one year ago) link

xxxxpost I like slutsky a lot but I thought that tweet flopson posted was really dickish and smug.

what do you expect, it was a tweet

tweeting about quitting ILX is on a plane of ridiculousness I hadn’t really conceived of before (sorry Ronan)

El Tomboto, Monday, 26 February 2018 13:28 (one year ago) link

to the point where now, for example, the era flopson views as the glory days was at the time viewed as a decline from ilx's golden age.

yeah but us golden agers were wrong about that then is the thing imo. the olden olden greenspun days threads -- I don't think I can be the only back-when dude who sees them now and goes "wow y'all need an editor." some influx of young cats who'd got online younger (cats who nb could also be total dicks a lot of the time & really hounded the people they didn't like imo & that was toxic as shit so there's that too) circa 07ish improved posting generally just by the speed of their game - the general tenor of the internet/social media also has a lot to do w/this mind but I think during that time ilx was learning to think of itself differently and consequently there were big lols to be had.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:36 (one year ago) link

Food poll tournament undoubtedly the pinnacle of ilx imo

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:37 (one year ago) link

nb the old-schoolers also hounded ppl I'm not suggesting neo-ilxors invented being dicks to ppl on the board

xp otm

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:38 (one year ago) link

I think the periods when I've got the most from ilx are ≈ 01-03 (when it felt like a real community of people with fascinating new ideas, even if most of it seems ridiculous in retrospect) and the last few years (when I've been getting the most satisfying music recommendations).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:38 (one year ago) link

Every time I pass over an egg option for a cheese option on the menu I smile like the Mona Lisa nobody has ever asked me why but the internal monologue is fierce at I can assure u

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:38 (one year ago) link

xpost I get that jclc

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:46 (one year ago) link

The one way in which that slutsky tweet is wrong: twitter can attract the same sorts of ppl as ILX -- ok that depends on which twitter you follow -- nevertheless I often think this or that person would've been perfect for ILX except twitter got in the way of them ending up here.

I've never been on FB (lol def not Linkedin) but I don't get that impression.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 February 2018 13:50 (one year ago) link

the writing and editing of posts improved when I joined imo

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 February 2018 13:53 (one year ago) link

here's my blueprint for triumph

- clandestine recruitment drive on other websites. candidates are discussed at length on 77. if they pass muster they are sent a PM on their own website simply reading 'you are ready for ilxor' like how bill bruford joined king crimson. you laugh but I actually recruited both ultros ultros-ghali and Spottie using this technique on Drowned In Sound, and I'm prepared to repeat the process on RYM and so forth
- restructuring of the boards (we can discuss this) that doesn't sacrifice the overall vibe. STRONGLY recommend separate 'I Love Politics' board for starters
- more proactive/comedy modding. it gets a bit moribund on that front these days
- 'guest artists' come and give interviews/do AMAs like on Reddit EXCEPT they're all kind of obscure/ilxor types like avalon emerson or that guy who directed horse money or w/e. if the site was run a little more like a culture blog this wouldn't be too hard to organise
- ilxor youtube channel
- some kind of social component I haven't calculated yet

basically, anything to make this place less of a waste of time for ppl, and more of an indispensable cultural nexus containing all the math, all the languages etc

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 13:59 (one year ago) link

That posts needs more DJ Martian

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:02 (one year ago) link

been here 15 years and de subjectivisten remains a(n excellent) mystery

mookieproof, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:03 (one year ago) link

PLANK xyzzzz doesn't believe in SOCIAL NETWORKS

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:03 (one year ago) link

I could see leaving ILX at least temporarily if I found myself in a new job which made it more difficult to toss out witty ripostes in the midst of 'doing work'. Or if I decided to devote time to being successful at something in life ever.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:07 (one year ago) link

- 'guest artists' come and give interviews/do AMAs like on Reddit EXCEPT they're all kind of obscure/ilxor types like avalon emerson or that guy who directed horse money or w/e. if the site was run a little more like a culture blog this wouldn't be too hard to organise

this is a cool idea actually

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:08 (one year ago) link

Ha, yeah. 07-13 didn't really stand out as exceptional in my memory at first but there were some good polls and listening clubs then tbf.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r),

the listening clubs were indeed fun but they were never going to last

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:09 (one year ago) link

- clandestine recruitment drive on other websites. candidates are discussed at length on 77. if they pass muster they are sent a PM on their own website simply reading 'you are ready for ilxor' like how bill bruford joined king crimson. you laugh but I actually recruited both ultros ultros-ghali and Spottie using this technique on Drowned In Sound, and I'm prepared to repeat the process on RYM and so forth

How many people will leave ILX for good if this is introduced?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:10 (one year ago) link

restructuring of the boards (we can discuss this) that doesn't sacrifice the overall vibe. STRONGLY recommend separate 'I Love Politics' board for starters

I second this, particularly part B.

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:11 (one year ago) link

everything is political tho and we already have an i love everything board

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:17 (one year ago) link

https://im-01.gifer.com/13N8.gif

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:18 (one year ago) link

U can't remove politics from anything iirc

Lol xp

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:18 (one year ago) link

Srs suggestion: everyone forced to join I live footy

The world cup threads are the bright counterweight to what used to be a similarly periodic shitfest of US elections but somewhere along the way a particularly clunky comparison of trump to something something face like a melting wax ass lololol tore through the unknown materials and rules that combine to dictate the strange gravity and orbit of these event threads and now we all live in the awful US election thread universe

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:22 (one year ago) link

If I no longer loved music I would quit this place bc the discussion of most other topics I care about isn’t strong here & I don’t care about movies or tv but I do love music so I’ll be around. It seems like older people stop loving music and turn to tv and movies instead or just turn away from social life on the internet. if you leave for Twitter well then you get what you deserve.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:22 (one year ago) link

football is cancer

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:23 (one year ago) link

bc the discussion of most other topics I care about isn’t strong here

rude imo

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:24 (one year ago) link

I've never really thought of ILE as more or less than a secondary board that was created so music fans could also have a place to shoot the shit about other things.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:25 (one year ago) link

If I no longer loved music I would quit this place bc the discussion of most other topics I care about isn’t strong here & I don’t care about movies or tv

what else is there after art and politics and food?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:26 (one year ago) link

fucking for one

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:27 (one year ago) link

humping iirc

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

eyyyy

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

plus the weather

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

"Sex" and "food" are synonymous.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:31 (one year ago) link

I've never really thought of ILE as more or less than a secondary board that was created so music fans could also have a place to shoot the shit about other things.

I only come here when ILM slows down to a crawl. Like imago said, a separate 'I love (US) politics' board would make this neck of the woods more appealing (to me, at least).

pomenitul, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:31 (one year ago) link

then why am i so much better at eating than shagging xp

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:32 (one year ago) link

It's funny but I dont think I ever looked at ILE for it's first few years of existence. Pretty sure 2003 will be when I first posted there at the earliest. I remember DG setting it up though. I miss DG but he always comes back every few years

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:33 (one year ago) link

then why am i so much better at eating than shagging xp

― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara),

using the wrong recipes

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:35 (one year ago) link

it's a poor workman that blames his tools

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:37 (one year ago) link

Pl

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:37 (one year ago) link

surely it's the ten thousand hours thing

President Keyes, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:38 (one year ago) link

PLANK xyzzzz doesn't believe in SOCIAL NETWORKS

― imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Your ideas are thrash and I'm the plank?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:39 (one year ago) link

I've never really thought of ILE as more or less than a secondary board that was created so music fans could also have a place to shoot the shit about other things.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This board got good around 2013 which is roughly around the time I started to take it seriously, as it happens.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:41 (one year ago) link

I support LJ’s proposal and volunteer to do alumni interviews with prospective posters in the new york/new jersey region.

treeship 2, Monday, 26 February 2018 14:47 (one year ago) link

if they pass muster they are sent a PM on their own website simply reading 'you are ready for ilxor'

there was an episode of Lewis with some club like this it was not good and did not end well

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:50 (one year ago) link

Oh well let's just give up so

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

How many people will leave ILX for good if this is introduced?

― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.)

i don't know. me, maybe? y'all want to be important and influential and popular and that's not me. i'm a long tail guy. the more this place becomes a Twitter Annex the less i care.

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:00 (one year ago) link

we turn the board into an interactive realtime mystery game where there's a clue in every poll

President Keyes, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link

I haven't stopped posting but I post way less frequently than I used to and I think it really is because most of my favorite posters don't post anymore and it doesn't seem anywhere near as interesting or as funny. Also, and maybe I am wrong in thinking this, but it feels like there are far fewer women posting these days and I think that factors in somehow too.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:06 (one year ago) link

i love bees

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:07 (one year ago) link

also the whole idea of ilx as a Planned Community seems so pathetic to me, things have an organic lifecycle and if this community is heading for extinction i say embrace it

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:11 (one year ago) link

Amen.

There really are way, way fewer women posting these days. Unless they're doing so surreptitiously. It's a shame.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:18 (one year ago) link

if they pass muster they are sent a PM on their own website simply reading 'you are ready for ilxor' like how bill bruford joined king crimson.

Robert Fripp is such a fucking dickhead. Apropos of nothing.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:20 (one year ago) link

i definitely read ilx more than i post to ilx these days. i don't really have any places to hang out anymore. i'll never unlock my gold Ned badge at this rate.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

xxpost - It is. :( I miss them and of course I dp realize that by not posting as much I myself am contributing to that trend. Come back women!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

that guy who directed horse money or w/e

lol good to know that Portugal's most famous/only criterionized director is still seen as a dude who'd totally have the time and inclination to talk to randos on ILX (probably not far wrong tbh).

Early 00's ILM was super formative to me as a young rockist wannabe rock critic, opened so many doors not just for then contemporary Hip-Hop and Chartpop but also Jazz, Techno, House, Ska. Atmosphere was far from friendly but really I cherish the beatdowns I got from jess, Blount and the like - at 18 I really needed to be told to stfu and stop thinking I was a genius.

I do miss a ton of posters but on a selfish level I feel like the brain drain from this forum makes it possible for me to post mostly w/o ridicule so...

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:22 (one year ago) link

jess and blount were a deadly duo. they trampled the weak and hurdled the dead.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:25 (one year ago) link

i don't miss the mean-spiritedness of old ilx at all, like 0%
i do miss some of the people who have left but mostly they are on facebook or twitter if we are hungry for their thoughts. one of the best things about ilx is the lack of quantification of how many people approve of your thoughts and the democratizing bland b/w landscape. it's a huge equalizer, which some people like and i guess others don't.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

Prolific women posters leaving is the most bummer ilx trend

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:41 (one year ago) link

x-post - I thought I should add that I'm glad you are still posting a lot LL because whenever I do read or post I'm glad to see you here.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

I can't even imagine posting a pic on a what do you look like thread nowadays. I think a lot of people just got super private. I hung out with rjg last month and we were discussing old ilxors and what their new names are. I've been so confused about who is who.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:44 (one year ago) link

I figured the lack of WDYLLs was less because of privacy and more because many of us know what each other looks like these days because of Facebook.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:45 (one year ago) link

FB you can at least control the audience and admin. Here you can't. I happened to be at a housewarming in London about 2 years ago and there were 5 old school London ilxors there that I had met at a fap 10 years prior. It was a trip.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

Yeah I guess you're right that had just never occurred to me as a major reason.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:50 (one year ago) link

xp - that's good to hear! :)
this is a great place to be if you like to discuss things (music in particular) but actually don't wish to cultivate followers or quantify how much people like your thoughts

as long as you're not posting photos of yourself or other private deets, ilx is a good place to discuss things that are not personal, which is 95% of what i am comfortable discussing in general -- both online and off.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:51 (one year ago) link

Also there's the thing where some of us who were once young and spry are now old and broken and don't care to commemorate the brutal savagery of time's passage with photographic evidence.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:54 (one year ago) link

x-post - I've found it really helpful over the years for discussing some very personal things but I'm generally pretty open with people (could probably stand to be more guarded tbh) irl too I think.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 15:57 (one year ago) link

overly simplistic maybe but this could all be that old ilxors are now 18 years older and more likely to have families, kids, etc and are too busy to regularly post here. nothing on the internet is expected to last 20 years anyway, so ilx still being here is a minor miracle

barreras, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

i don't miss the mean-spiritedness of old ilx at all, like 0%

I remember this being worst around the time of the supposed Golden Age, though, at least the first part of it.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

I don't remember any mean-spiritness. Except maybe for the twoooooo weeeeeks thing.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:02 (one year ago) link

w/out really speculating on root cause ilx feels less funny, less open, less communal, and less freewheeling than it did when i really liked it here. i mostly stick to one small corner of the site at this point and hopefully the crew there stays strong and active for a long time.

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:04 (one year ago) link

other: gaz coombes

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:07 (one year ago) link

The underlying lack of anonymity that so many of you seem to cherish makes this place even more alienating to a newcomer tbh. I already felt this during my first stint as a half-lurker in 2003 or so.

pomenitul, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:08 (one year ago) link

CAD otm. It is most definitely all of those things for me too.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:10 (one year ago) link

but actually don't wish to cultivate followers or quantify how much people like your thoughts

i enjoy the challenge of hurling bon mots into the abyss day after day, with only the occasional grudging excelsior to offer a brief, bittersweet endorphin burst

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:11 (one year ago) link

i hate 'likes' and hate 'upvotes' even more, all of that shit is poisonous

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:12 (one year ago) link

'i hate likes and i like everything else'

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:13 (one year ago) link

what is ILX like on a phone? if its in any way not phone-friendly that might be another reason why people stick to their tweets and instacat pictures.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:17 (one year ago) link

it's super phone friendly (except that you can't search out an old thread you want to bump)

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:18 (one year ago) link

I don't remember any mean-spiritness. Except maybe for the twoooooo weeeeeks thing.

― Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:02 (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Roy Keane Saipan?!

XP I ilx phone exclusively it is not a demotivator

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:18 (one year ago) link

other: gaz coombes

his underapprecation on this board is a scandal, it's true

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:18 (one year ago) link

One person's 'ilx got less mean' is another person's 'jesus this place suck now' I dunno if that could be of value to point out

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:20 (one year ago) link

True, some people seem to treat him as some sort of figure of fun. (xp)

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:20 (one year ago) link

Lol throughout the years i’ve always thought “do A and B, like, actually know each other irl and hang out at those fappy things or whatever theyre called”?

I dont recall ilx being super mean-spirited, but that 07 period was pretty high energy. Xp

Global Arming's Terrifying Old Math$ (Hunt3r), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:21 (one year ago) link

i love j0n W irl but cmon he was mean. cutty was mean. hst3nc1l was mean.

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

darraghmac that point has been clear to me since people started calling it the golden age
classic insider/outsider perspectives!

i remember a lot of mean spiritedness
just for one quick example, the threads where people would make fun of other people on the board were at least somewhat openly mean-spirited, at least they were imo
i used to follow them just to make sure i didn't show up. honest truth there. :-/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:27 (one year ago) link

I don't remember any of them being mean? But I also always thought gabbneb was fine too. He at least would buy pizza at faps for everyone.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:28 (one year ago) link

i always felt bad when people got picked on here. even if they were being jerky or obtuse. nobody has ever really picked on me here and if that was common i totally wouldn't still be here. i never understood the people who were gluttons for punishment. why they took/take abuse for so long. maybe some people just like getting yelled at.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:28 (one year ago) link

Thankfully I've only ever gotten consistent grief from one mysteriously-beloved dickhole who's since vacated the premises. It wasn't enough to make me leave but it was a fuckin' bummer and definitely curbed my posting significantly.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:32 (one year ago) link

As long as Mordy and Dr Morbius both post there will be equilibrium.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:34 (one year ago) link

Two wallows do not make a wummer guys let's keep thread posi and constructive!

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

"It wasn't enough to make me leave but it was a fuckin' bummer and definitely curbed my posting significantly."

this happened to me too. where i really thought i was going for good because of one person. i couldn't take it. i did actually leave for awhile because of it.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:36 (one year ago) link

I was terrified of the "what a horribly formed 'joke'" thread because I both like to joke and can be pretty sensitive (more so in the past).

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link

i hate 'likes' and hate 'upvotes' even more, all of that shit is poisonous

Starting to post here again after years of Facebook was really a trip because you have to lay down your thoughts without any knowledge of what the majority thinks of them beyond yr own ability to read the room. It's kinda scary but leads to way more interesting convos, also when someone does go "OTM" the endorphin rush is so much sweeter.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:38 (one year ago) link

RONG

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:40 (one year ago) link

Thankfully I've only ever gotten consistent grief from one mysteriously-beloved dickhole who's since vacated the premises. It wasn't enough to make me leave but it was a fuckin' bummer and definitely curbed my posting significantly.

yea I stopped posting for a while because of that person too. he'd literally tell other posters to get raped and die over the most innocuous shit and most of ILX would just be like "aww, hope you work past your mental issues *hugs*" meanwhile I'd rack up 5,000,000 SBs because I posted about how shirtless Australian dudes were hot

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:44 (one year ago) link

Can we name names here I'm kinda lost

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:46 (one year ago) link

I'll turn all mirrors inwards if it helps

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:46 (one year ago) link

You're slipping D.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:49 (one year ago) link

Actually I might be thinking of the wrong person.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:50 (one year ago) link

deems otm so many mysteriously-beloved dickholes to choose from

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:50 (one year ago) link

best-beloved dickhole

(sorry enbb, much love to benson)

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:51 (one year ago) link

We're talking about Dom, right?

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:52 (one year ago) link

x-post lol

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:52 (one year ago) link

yeah I'm sure frogbs and OL are talking about different ppl but I have no idea who (well with frogbs I do)

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:53 (one year ago) link

beloved is not usu. a word I associate with Dom tbh

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:54 (one year ago) link

lmao you might be right

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 16:56 (one year ago) link

Yeah, p sure we're talking about different people. Dom was no treat but never abusive towards me.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 16:57 (one year ago) link

frogbs is talking about a certain hungry princess who was by all accounts a v sweet guy when he wasn't spewing trollish hatred online

OL I can't tell but I have an inkling

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:00 (one year ago) link

LJ, your inkling is most likely correct.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:02 (one year ago) link

oh yes princess [percussion instrument frequently used by Mahler] right

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:02 (one year ago) link

What

Jesus times I wonder was I ever on this site at all

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

ah yes, princess coconuts

alien lames (NickB), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

a few posters quit forever during the Luna thing, m1ss m1s3ry i remember in partic

why did turangalila quit? I can't remember now. And did he come back?

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:06 (one year ago) link

I don't ever like people being dicks about other people unless those other people have really done something to deserve it, think I'm probably not alone in this, but it's difficult to forcibly stand up for wishy washy opinions even if they are obviously right.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:07 (one year ago) link

The only thing beneficial about likes and upvotes is knowing someone read your post? ILX is full of little essays followed by responses to other posts or new little essays. Upvotes or likes compensate for the fact that you can't pick up on normal face to face conversation visual or audio cues. You have to see someone respond to a point nested in your essay to find out whether you're even part of the discussion.

xposts

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:07 (one year ago) link

a few posters quit forever during the Luna thing, m1ss m1s3ry i remember in partic

why did turangalila quit? I can't remember now. And did he come back?

― Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, February 26, 2018 9:06 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kv_nol bailed during lunagate, but not before attempting to give me the ol "what for" in an email.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:10 (one year ago) link

yea I stopped posting for a while because of that person too. he'd literally tell other posters to get raped and die over the most innocuous shit and most of ILX would just be like "aww, hope you work past your mental issues *hugs*"

― frogbs, Monday, February 26, 2018 11:44 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had this experience! I did get an apology eventually though. Wonder if it's the same person.

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:10 (one year ago) link

it's possible i know who Old Lunch is talking about too but idk.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:11 (one year ago) link

I forget, was Lunagate that she wasn't who she was in her posted pics???

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:12 (one year ago) link

The only thing beneficial about likes and upvotes is knowing someone read your post? ILX is full of little essays followed by responses to other posts or new little essays. Upvotes or likes compensate for the fact that you can't pick up on normal face to face conversation visual or audio cues. You have to see someone respond to a point nested in your essay to find out whether you're even part of the discussion.

i know what you're saying, but i don't buy this. i think likes/upvotes/quantifying response can be toxic to both the discussion and the self. i would rather know someone is engaging with someone i said by seeing what i said quoted and responded to. that's how you know you are part of the conversation :) voting/liking is not conversationally equivalent to body language imo.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:14 (one year ago) link

Ah right, I think I know who frogbs is talking about.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:14 (one year ago) link

ah yes, princess coconuts

― alien lames (NickB), Monday, February 26, 2018 5:05 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:15 (one year ago) link

yerac, yes but it was much more than that. the main lunagate thread is worth reading when you have a few hours.

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:15 (one year ago) link

oops
with someone should be someTHING not one
woops

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:16 (one year ago) link

Nah, I kind of remember when it was going on, but I wasn't that invested in it at the time either.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:16 (one year ago) link

i mean i guess it is also kind of boring placed in the wider world of 'weird online grifter shit'. At the time I was glued to my fuckin' desk though

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

i can't believe it's been over ten years since Lunagate

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:18 (one year ago) link

For some reason I thought she still posted here?

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:18 (one year ago) link

Based on what I know and what I've inferred, I cannot imagine that Luna would be at all welcome around these parts.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:19 (one year ago) link

why did turangalila quit? I can't remember now. And did he come back?

― Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon)

he's fine but says hes no intentions of coming back. He's on FB though.

I know who imago refers to but no idea with old lunch

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:21 (one year ago) link

Oh wait, did Luna end up being a man? Ha, maybe I should go and re-read the threads.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:21 (one year ago) link

I do suggest a re-read instead of rehashing it all here tbh

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:22 (one year ago) link

Ah right, I think I know who frogbs is talking about.

Strike that, I meant the person OL is talking about, have no idea who frogbs is talking out. This is hard work.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:22 (one year ago) link

i'll never unlock my gold Ned badge at this rate.

Patience and time, my friend.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:23 (one year ago) link

i like the current era of ILX a lot, which is kind of a lonely position. it's different than older eras, but still in a good way. it's smaller, but i also feel like i recognize most people and have a rough idea of where they're coming from on any given thread. i enjoy my messageboard community.

to address the OP, at least some people leave because they're just trying to leave the internet in general. that was the case with me, twice. i failed miserably both times, and immediately came back. but during those times, i would start to see the internet/ILX as a place that i've invested so much time and energy into at the expense of real life, like a zero sum game. so i'd freak out and try to cut myself off to force myself to be a normal human being in the real world. that dichotomy is baloney, though.

i might be alone in that as well, though. i think what barreras described above is probably the more likely explanation for the general attenuation of the board:

overly simplistic maybe but this could all be that old ilxors are now 18 years older and more likely to have families, kids, etc and are too busy to regularly post here. nothing on the internet is expected to last 20 years anyway, so ilx still being here is a minor miracle

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:25 (one year ago) link

xposts There was no overt beefing on my part, inasmuch as my interactions with said poster were limited to saying 'hey, dude I never interact with and have no desire to interact with, stop evoking my name in threads whose entire purpose is to rank on other posters'.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:27 (one year ago) link

I'm with you, KM. This is my favorite era of ILX. People don't have to agree or even get along but the general diffusion of outright antagonism these days is a relief.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah my inkling about OL is true

The guy was an incredible poster and a one-off but he could, it's true, be a little spiteful

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:29 (one year ago) link

KM and OL OTM.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:30 (one year ago) link

i think i worked it out

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:31 (one year ago) link

Ah, maybe it isn't who I'm thinking of then! Pretty sure it's someone else now.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:32 (one year ago) link

i know what you're saying, but i don't buy this. i think likes/upvotes/quantifying response can be toxic to both the discussion and the self. i would rather know someone is engaging with someone i said by seeing what i said quoted and responded to. that's how you know you are part of the conversation :) voting/liking is not conversationally equivalent to body language imo.

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, February 26, 2018 12:14 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I'm not exactly arguing in support of it, but I see some value in that system when the feature isn't abused (and that's rare of course). It is a shame though to watch your big thoughtful post drift off to sea then wait all day in the widow's walk hoping for some kind of acknowledgement, perhaps even a juicy OTM!

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:33 (one year ago) link

Oh cankles!

Far be it from me to note that you have to know how seriously to take some ppl I mean that's a dangerous comment to make I know but I mean

Cankles!

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:34 (one year ago) link

i like the current era of ILX a lot, which is kind of a lonely position

not a lonely position. i'm right there with you on that.

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:34 (one year ago) link

it's hard to xls everything from memory but wasn't the princess a new user name for cankles?

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:35 (one year ago) link

And look.

Look

I got time for my guy frogbs indeed I think I was a lot more light-hearted on him at the time than many posters posting itt tbh

But frogbs cmon man do you even remember how you hit this place at the start

Guys let's not utterly rewrite it all!

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:36 (one year ago) link

xpost
a relatively lonely position on this thread, at least, as i scan through it! but yeah, there must be a lot of people who agree. otherwise, why come here all the time (other than habit or to resolve one last beef before leaving in triumph)

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:37 (one year ago) link

i would start to see the internet/ILX as a place that i've invested so much time and energy into at the expense of real life

As long as you are not trying to invert Maslow's Pyramid your 'real life' is probably fine. Some people here would mock the idea, but ILX encourages and stimulates the intellect. You can't make a whole life out of that, but after you've satisfied certain other more-basic needs, ILX provides an agora for the agoraphobic.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

lol otm, you gotta cop to that fb! xxp

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

frogbs became a good poster when he explained how d3athdr0ne was bad at poker

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

x-post - lol yeah I remember hating and giving Frogbs shit for something years ago and although I can't remember the particulars I do remember that it was something pretty misogynistic. I think. My point is that I think it was rare for someone to get shit if they didn't at least sort of deserve it in some way. I'm not advocating bullying by any means but I do miss some of the more lighthearted ribbing that used to go on.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

frogbs a poster who really came into his own after surviving the haze imo

xpost loving 'an agora for the agoraphobic'! A+

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

He wdylled a tadpolebs and it was all love from thereon in

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

My wife says "you're always reading your blue boxes" but I think she's starting to understand the conversations here are more substantive than what might be typical of an "internet message board" to the disengaged. It's addicting but it's not the junk food that is browsing most social media.

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

yes @ frogbs becoming a valuable poster @ poker w/ d34thdr0ne xp

good times

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

xp I miss a lot of the heavy-hearted ribbing but I don't expect to win votes with that sentiment

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

it's a cool club tbh - people who showed up, irritated the entire forum and then hung around until they were part of the furniture. each one a victory for the corrective powers of the zing

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

how did wins sidestep the process? is he a demon?

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:43 (one year ago) link

sorry daemon

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:43 (one year ago) link

And ok "deserve" was probably a poor choice there word wise. Yes, some people def took it pretty far but I guess I just don't remember any sort of mean spiritedness that ever seemed completely unprovoked.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:44 (one year ago) link

ILX provides an agora for the agoraphobic.

oh, for sure. i've come around to that. it's amazing to be able to bump a relatively minor topic (like the raspberry pi thread) with a handful of weird questions about a project, and then get really thoughtful advice soon afterward from people that i know, and that i know will still be there in a few weeks and might be interested in how the project is coming along.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:45 (one year ago) link

My first OP was an inadvertent duplicate thread for Mad Men season 4 which enraged lag8n and he image bombed my thread, so a mod locked his thread in response

Now we’re best buds

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:46 (one year ago) link

man i wish jbr would come back

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:46 (one year ago) link

FTR, I'm not so thin-skinned that I can't deal with ribbing or criticism. sleeve, eg, has been vocal about his lack of appreciation for my Trump posts but I have no beef with sleeve even though I can't understand why anyone would ever object to anything I've ever posted because it's all kind of amazing tbh.

Ages ago, I wrote what was easily my most vitriolic post on the board in response to a shitty attack post by someone I subsequently spent ages thinking was a total dick and who I now think is a pretty cool dude and poster. ILX clearly demonstrates that bridges can be mended if one posts from a place of openness and love. Namaste.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:53 (one year ago) link

Tone policing valid criticism nagl my man

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

Also link plz

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:55 (one year ago) link

Ages ago, I wrote what was easily my most vitriolic post on the board in response to a shitty attack post by someone I subsequently spent ages thinking was a total dick and who I now think is a pretty cool dude and poster. ILX clearly demonstrates that bridges can be mended if one posts from a place of openness and love. Namaste.

Same and otm.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:55 (one year ago) link

yeah, that's happened to me more than once too. and a lot of the times it goes the other way, too, where i was being a complete dick to someone for no reason and then gradually realized that the other person was a human being who was actually really interesting

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link

I still hate everyone I ever hated ftr.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:02 (one year ago) link

my posting has slowed down a lot, or it feels like it has. i peaked years ago! i don't really have much to talk about on here these days nor much to contribute. i'm not disinterested, but i'm beginning to feel like i want to hang on for one last big poll and then get out. like a heist movie. except I'm heisting music recommendations.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:02 (one year ago) link

lots of the posters i was pals with back in the day i don't really talk to anymore, but that's maybe bc I'm not one who's ever met anyone IRL (except JBR for about a minute, and she's great!)

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:04 (one year ago) link

I do believe that every ILXor I've met IRL has been gone from the board for a decade+ at this point.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:06 (one year ago) link

now i just post GIFs to watch their fuckin' expression change etc

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:06 (one year ago) link

I keep misreading this thread titles as "Why do good people leave ILX?"

President Keyes, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

dear god, why does ilx happen to good people?

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

there's people you thought left years ago but are still around in a new username that everyone but me knows who it is

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:21 (one year ago) link

Sund4r hates people? A new facet haha

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

02-03 were fun years for me

w/r/t recruitment, i have done my part by both speaking with people in person and virtually

have successfully gotten a handful of people on board but they all give me the same feedback

also i think these are good but different times

people get nostalgic for the past or for what can't be had

bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:23 (one year ago) link

Who was infinity symbol

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:23 (one year ago) link

meanwhile, i still don't have the slightest idea who the infinity symbol is

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:24 (one year ago) link

dmac u and i will never agree on socks just tellin u rn bud

bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:24 (one year ago) link

I mean is that a clue I mean

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

Way I'm feeling rn I'm just gonna disappear and come back as '?'

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

what are your positions on socks?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

Mine?

Hmm we could extrapolate I spose

Just thought I can't come back as ? because jay batman would kick my ass

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:26 (one year ago) link

I'm against socks I think it's a silly business.

Online like.

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:27 (one year ago) link

One of my favourite genres of ilxor is people who have been here for like 15 years, always with the same username, and yet are subtle enough to slip under the radar

NZ's own 'etc' being one of the finest exponents of this

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:27 (one year ago) link

xp i certainly can't read either of your minds! and i did ask.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

Sund4r hates people? A new facet haha

Sometimes yes, but I was joking there tbc.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

i have no desire to connect my various usernames to previous ones bc i don't treat this message board the same way others do, and never have, if people want an explanation

i do think i've gotten old too and am much less profane than before

just livin for the moment and chilin in lyfe now

bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:30 (one year ago) link

other: when they tore the statscock down

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:30 (one year ago) link

Ok guys

Who was infinity

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:32 (one year ago) link

Srs now

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:32 (one year ago) link

chexy obv

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:32 (one year ago) link

who?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:33 (one year ago) link

c21m50nh3x460n, but that doesn't explain who he was back in 02-03

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:34 (one year ago) link

but like he says, now chillin in lyfe.

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:35 (one year ago) link

oh come on he's not crimso

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:36 (one year ago) link

who the fuck is crimso?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:37 (one year ago) link

not him that's for sure

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:38 (one year ago) link

jaymc to thread plz

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:39 (one year ago) link

I'd be surprised if chexy wasn't new as chexy tbh

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:40 (one year ago) link

Who is the sockpuppetmaster of ilx

TWU what's happening to me

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:40 (one year ago) link

He Do the Posters in Different Voices

President Keyes, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:41 (one year ago) link

the seemingly decline in big cultural tentpole moments is a factor for me. a lot of what made ilx fun for me was participating in those threads. although i guess a new star wars can be relied upon to come out every year. i think this is especially apparent on the music side. i mean just look at what was #1 for the tracks poll! a song nobody loved.

maybe that's another way of saying lots of good discussion can be found somewhere else, and also maybe that i'm less interested in engaging with the 'culture' nowadays. i will say ilx is nice though in that it's often a refuge from the hysteria present on other social media like twitter, the politics thread is often a good splash of cold water from trump fear.

also unfortunate is the number of shitty posts blanketing the board from posters like infinity symbol which makes finding the good stuff that much harder.

anyway! ilx is dead, long live ilx.

, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:43 (one year ago) link

Who is the sockpuppetmaster of ilx

― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, February 26, 2018 1:40 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Like online or on our own time?

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:46 (one year ago) link

Dyao so help me

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:48 (one year ago) link

Who is the sockpuppetmaster of ilx

it's these two kids:

https://i.imgur.com/cX2mKYS.jpg

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:49 (one year ago) link

Johnny Mathis and Mark Cuban

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:50 (one year ago) link

Write in vote for I save my best comments for secret ilx chat room bc tbph the ppl there are cooler sors

Mordy, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:53 (one year ago) link

😮

scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:54 (one year ago) link

Head spinning now

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:54 (one year ago) link

yea I admit I spent a lot of time trying to rile people up in the old days and a lot of my opinions were flat out dumb. one big moment for me was when I used the word "uppity" in the "is this racist" thread and a lot of people gave me shit for using such a "racially charged word". but I *honest to God* never remembering hearing the word in that context (or just didn't realize it at the time) so I thought all you guys were trolling me so I kept trolling back even harder, and then I looked it up and it turns out it IS a racially charged word, and I wanted to go and say "my bad" but wound up with 68,000 SBs and couldn't post for a while

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:59 (one year ago) link

lol I tried to get into the discord chat the other day and I guess it's gone or something. I don't understand the new ways of using the internet.

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:59 (one year ago) link

ilx declined when I stopped lurking and started posting regularly

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:59 (one year ago) link

yea I admit I spent a lot of time trying to rile people up in the old days and a lot of my opinions were flat out dumb. one big moment for me was when I used the word "uppity" in the "is this racist" thread and a lot of people gave me shit for using such a "racially charged word". but I *honest to God* never remembering hearing the word in that context (or just didn't realize it at the time) so I thought all you guys were trolling me so I kept trolling back even harder, and then I looked it up and it turns out it IS a racially charged word, and I wanted to go and say "my bad" but wound up with 68,000 SBs and couldn't post for a while

― frogbs, Monday, February 26, 2018 10:59 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol at this wtf

khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:00 (one year ago) link

Crazy that one ILX is not enough for people, they need two of the fuckers.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:01 (one year ago) link

Write in vote for I save my best comments for secret ilx chat room bc tbph the ppl there are cooler sors

― Mordy, Monday, February 26, 2018 12:53 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this is the funniest shit, how many 'secret' chat rooms do we have now that are mostly ilx people? lagoon and I tried making a slack but no one joined but there are at least two active ones I know of, but am not part of (probably for the best)

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:01 (one year ago) link

but but but

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:01 (one year ago) link

xxp

unite all boards into a single one

bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:02 (one year ago) link

Have to say 77 and [secret board name redacted] are where it is pretty much these days.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:02 (one year ago) link

Oh wow auto corrected secret borad! :D

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:03 (one year ago) link

those chats are where they breed trolls w/regulars and come up with nefarious armies, i think that's what TWU is maybe on about.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:03 (one year ago) link

I have heard of the double-secret board and have it on authority that it sucks

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:03 (one year ago) link

one big moment for me was when I used the word "uppity" in the "is this racist" thread and a lot of people gave me shit for using such a "racially charged word". but I *honest to God* never remembering hearing the word in that context (or just didn't realize it at the time) so I thought all you guys were trolling me so I kept trolling back even harder, and then I looked it up and it turns out it IS a racially charged word, and I wanted to go and say "my bad" but wound up with 68,000 SBs and couldn't post for a while

Oh man I remember this because, full disclosure, I didn't realize before then that it was racially charged and just thought it mean stuck up.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

Imagine there's no 77. It's easy if you try.
No Moderator Request Forum. No I Love TMI.

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

i can tell how out of it i am bc i didn't even know these chats exist.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

those chats are where they breed trolls w/regulars and come up with nefarious armies, i think that's what TWU is maybe on about.

― omar little, Monday, February 26, 2018 7:03 PM (forty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

those chats made Trump president iirc

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:04 (one year ago) link

Hold on, there's more than one secret/invitation only board?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:05 (one year ago) link

isn't TWU just rolling with the ongoing delusion that everyone who disagrees with him is a bot army, and not a bunch of people just reacting to bad posts

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:05 (one year ago) link

TWU's conspiracy theory is legitimately one of my favorite ongoing traditions.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:05 (one year ago) link

oh and a couple of weeks ago, another great poster was driven off the board by a shitty poster. so there's that!

, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:06 (one year ago) link

i love the idea of ILX crisis actors responding to bad opinions about Prefab Sprout or something.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:06 (one year ago) link

is brad really gone xp? i may be done with ILM if brad is done

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:06 (one year ago) link

dayo otm

dayo i just rescreened that Johnnie To movie you sent me, it holds up.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:07 (one year ago) link

i thought TWU was playing that for laughs nowadays tbh

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:07 (one year ago) link

Can't thank y'all enough that all this old days style excitement kicked off the day the wife left the country for a week

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:07 (one year ago) link

omar and dayo otm

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:07 (one year ago) link

"Hold on, there's more than one secret/invitation only board?

― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Monday, February 26, 2018 2:05 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

AFAIK no there isn't. There are, however, other boards that ILX posters have started and brought posters with them but they're not hosted by ILX or hidden here.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:08 (one year ago) link

dayo i just rescreened that Johnnie To movie you sent me, it holds up.

― omar little, Monday, February 26, 2018 2:07 PM (forty-five seconds ago) Bookmark

sparrow? man did i send this to you or just make the rec? either way glad you liked it!

, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:09 (one year ago) link

Sez u xp

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:09 (one year ago) link

I have one at \ilx.xls but nobody else posts to it :(

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:10 (one year ago) link

like youtubers sending their armies on a raid

bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:10 (one year ago) link

Can't thank y'all enough that all this old days style excitement kicked off the day the wife left the country for a week

― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, February 26, 2018 7:07 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Shees mr. you could've given us a couple of days notice at least that it'll be deems week this week.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:10 (one year ago) link

Possibly 2 posters given I haven't seen someone else post since that incident but could just be coincidence xps

Colonel Poo, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:11 (one year ago) link

yeah Sparrow! you emailed me a download. i should show it to my w1fe, might be a good HK gateway drug, then she'll be into Bunman and Red to Kill before i know it.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:11 (one year ago) link

party at dmacs lads

bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:12 (one year ago) link

dyng at "w1fe" for some reason

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:12 (one year ago) link

hahahah same

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:13 (one year ago) link

the old Aim CHATZ run by roxy were fun

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:14 (one year ago) link

google w1fe and find omar little

, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:14 (one year ago) link

tbh I am amazed anyone from ilx interacts with me on twitter. I realized after doing some cleanup that apparently I only respond to people on there in a really haphazard way, or after a few drinks

sorry to everyone who's still here who got weird misspelled or incoherent messages on that site. I'm going to do better. not on ilx, though.

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:15 (one year ago) link

I'm going to do better. not on ilx, though

― mh, Monday, February 26, 2018 11:15 AM (twenty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

new board description

bald butte (∞), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:16 (one year ago) link

is brad really gone xp? i may be done with ILM if brad is done

yeah brad bounced iirc after being treated very shabbily by a regular

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:17 (one year ago) link

tbph i don't think brad left bc of that interaction. i mean maybe he did but it would be weird if a drive-by by a known troll and provocateur on one thread drove him off the rest of the site. maybe he's using it as an excuse to take a break in which case more power to him.

Mordy, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:19 (one year ago) link

Paranoid I typed "wife" now

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:20 (one year ago) link

join me on the dark web, where we say "p4rtner"

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

actually if you google "ilxor" and "w1fe" you do find me, i fucked up

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

1LX 5P0U5E

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:25 (one year ago) link

i think for me, after 16+ years of reading and posting, i have really internalized a lot of the ILM / ILE discourse, to the point where i can generally predict what type of replies i will get if i post a thing or say a thing. so i'm content to sit back and not post, or maybe just to let other post it for me. because the other side of it is that a lot of what i have to say isn't that original anyway and not very interesting to many people. this is especially true on ILM. i like what i like and i have certain attitudes about music that i thnk are familiar to me and not that productive to endlessly rehash.

the late great, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:26 (one year ago) link

familiar to ILM i mean, not familiar to me

the late great, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:27 (one year ago) link

I feel that way sometimes, other times I hear some music that I should have known about and find out no one's ever mentioned it on ilm outside of voting for it in a year end poll!

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:30 (one year ago) link

What I like most about ILX is that it’s basically a better version of mid-90s Usenet, somewhat anonymous, pretty consistent group of intelligent/eloquent regulars with good discussions, no upvotes or other shit that makes discussions into popularity contests, no avatars, no emojis, no bots, but also no gigantic unmoderated flamewars. Most of the internet is an unadulterated shitstorm in terms of discussions, especially Twitter. I’m not going to maintain a second anonymous Facebook identity for online discussions, too much work.

I read daily, post occasionally. I’ve been here since 2001, probably will never leave, still don’t feel like I’m truly part of it all as a non-Anglospheric dude.

I don’t want to play the role of tonedeaf overearnest Scandinavian/Dutch/Swiss/German curiosity but I guess I am that guy once in a while.

Siegbran, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:33 (one year ago) link

What I like most about ILX is that it’s basically a better version of mid-90s Usenet

It was a direct descendant of 90s alt.music.alternative in a way.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:35 (one year ago) link

I don’t want to play the role of tonedeaf overearnest Scandinavian/Dutch/Swiss/German curiosity but I guess I am that guy once in a while.

― Siegbran, Monday, February 26, 2018 7:33 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/005/393/IKIFEEL.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:40 (one year ago) link

Geir said last year in the ilx now playing group that he was thinking of delurking on ilx to post again.

I still remember when he turned up after being an ilx bogeyman initially and tom had to post verifying it was really him when he did arrive

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:41 (one year ago) link

I like the low amount of beef on ILX these days bcz I don't have time to keep up with it. *

Strongly miss the volume of female posters generally, and specific voices like JBR/JBL and Jenny and c# who've exodused in recent years; especially JBL as it was openly due to toxicity rather than busy life changes. It's :-/ that the more congenial atmosphere these days is largely being enjoyed by middle-aged white str8 dudes.

deems: one had to stop browsing at work and switch to zing, found it harder, "now I'm over a year behind and can't catch up"; the other claimed to still post, but I haven't seen them do so for years. (tbh I see 2-6 ex-posters a week IRL who still read threads to some degree)

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:43 (one year ago) link

“w1fe” is my new favorite thing

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:44 (one year ago) link

* wrote this on zing and it wouldn't post and by the time I got to keyboard, where I was up to was lost in the fold. one thing doesn't change: ilx loves talking about itself.

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:45 (one year ago) link

imo the best approach instead of catching up is removing all bookmarks and starting fresh

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:46 (one year ago) link

If there were, say, a French equivalent to ILX (please point me in the right direction if you're aware of one, thx), I'd probably feel less inclined to spend time here. The Anglocentrism (in the broad sense) is kind of stifling sometimes, down to the overemphasis on ID politics.

pomenitul, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:47 (one year ago) link

ilx declined when I stopped lurking and started posting regularly

correlation is not causation :-)

the other claimed to still post, but I haven't seen them do so for years

verifiable through a Search on 'username' + 'posts' + 'most recent first'

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

Strongly miss the volume of female posters generally

yep. if there's anything "wrong" with ILX, it's this.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

overemphasis on ID politics lol

brimstead, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:49 (one year ago) link

Geir said last year in the ilx now playing group that he was thinking of delurking on ilx to post again.

I still remember when he turned up after being an ilx bogeyman initially and tom had to post verifying it was really him when he did arrive

― Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, February 26, 2018 2:41 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg, Geir? I'm happy to hear he's still out there loving music.

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:49 (one year ago) link

sorry carry on

brimstead, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:49 (one year ago) link

roxy hasn't posted for a long time, she is missed.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:50 (one year ago) link

overemphasis on ID politics lol

This is exactly what I'm talking about. For structural reasons, it's probably not as apparent if you live in the US/UK/Anglo Canada, etc.

pomenitul, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:50 (one year ago) link

surprised how many people here seem to know each other IRL. I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:51 (one year ago) link

I found Geir active again on RYM recently and very nearly added him as a friend

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:52 (one year ago) link

geir still loves the same music he always did

you can join the group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilxorsnowplaying/

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:53 (one year ago) link

personally I cannot imagine why there aren't more female posters

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:56 (one year ago) link

imo the best approach instead of catching up is removing all bookmarks and starting fresh

I believe it was more a general vibe than that the poster used bookmarks at all

verifiable through a Search on 'username' + 'posts' + 'most recent first'

I'm well aware, but search is not available on zing

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:01 (one year ago) link

why do people leave ILX for God?

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:03 (one year ago) link

(I had checked by the time I posted, and the last post for one username was March 2014, with the previous username stopping in November 2005, but I dunno if they had another more recently)

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:04 (one year ago) link

i only leave ILX for food

alien lames (NickB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:04 (one year ago) link

surprised how many people here seem to know each other IRL. I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

― frogbs, Monday, February 26, 2018 1:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, was it gr80?

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:05 (one year ago) link

It was a direct descendant of 90s alt.music.alternative in a way.

It was indeed.

I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

...I don't even know what to say to that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:06 (one year ago) link

And katherine OTM of course.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:06 (one year ago) link

lucky guess

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:07 (one year ago) link

I'm kind of amazed sometimes how many people from ilx I've been fortunate to meet either by chance or design

then there's the near misses, like the realization I probably used to walk past the currently-screen-named JCLC in the grocery store all the time before I posted here

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:07 (one year ago) link

re: facebook diaspora - I am happy to return to an ad-free, grassrootsy, weird, non commercial environment

Facebook is a tool of the wicked, but we must do what we can with it since so many of us are trapped there

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:13 (one year ago) link

I still can't believe the one time years and years back when I was at LACMA visiting with a then-fairly-recently-arrived UK friend (non-ILX) and we were walking around in a courtyard and I heard a 'hello there' or the like right behind me and I turned around and it was gabbneb.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:14 (one year ago) link

I don't even know what to say to that.

"my work is done" or something like that

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:15 (one year ago) link

I was going to ask if it was G too lol.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:16 (one year ago) link

overemphasis on ID politics, or as we now call it in the USA, the totality of modern life.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:16 (one year ago) link

xp to be fair he tells a very good tale of Ned

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:16 (one year ago) link

The weird thing is that gr80 has also now collectively met my entire immediate family aside from my mom, as well as meeting my girlfriend, and every time it's been outside of California.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:17 (one year ago) link

yeah I know

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:18 (one year ago) link

tbh I'd double-check with your mom to make sure they haven't randomly met and you're merely unaware

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:19 (one year ago) link

x-post - lol!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:20 (one year ago) link

I only really post intermittently and during polls (especially the metal poll which is always lovely). I start to get really depressed if I spend too long here, which is in part due to my own irrational paranoia but also has a lot to do with how quickly some posters seem to spring to a hostile response. I feel like this level of conflict is unprecedented...I mean, not on the internet of course, but I want ILX to be a haven from all of that. And the conflict is part of the fun, but not when it’s so frequent and really hurtfully personal.

Also it really upsets me how some of you speak to and about imago! Living with him, I think he is just really quite different to how he gets portrayed here sometimes... I know he’s part of creating that perception too of course, but I think the extent of the response is sometimes incongruous with what’s been said, just because it’s imago. Obviously all posters should be held accountable for bullshit or offensive things but the level of aggression is quite high where he is concerned.

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:22 (one year ago) link

Wait is this an LJ sock?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:23 (one year ago) link

Hi tt!

scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:24 (one year ago) link

Ban tange— no im sorry

stet, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:26 (one year ago) link

Living with him, I think he is just really quite different to how he gets portrayed here sometimes... I know he’s part of creating that perception too of course,

imagine what he'd be like IRL by the time you met him if he hadn't been so relentlessly bullied by the sculptor's chisel here

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:27 (one year ago) link

I like imago and barely interact with him on ilm but I must guiltily admit when gr80 made a zine, I asked if I could be listed in the donors as "Ban LJ" and he wisely denied me

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:28 (one year ago) link

the more this place becomes a Twitter Annex the less i care

It's always been a decent aggregator though, now it's an aggregator aggregator.

ID politics killed ilx btw

I would say this is right-but-wrong - a lot of the rest of the web became either less boys-only, or far more so. ILX stayed more or less where it is, but leaking women. But ILX is rarely the only site that anyone goes to, so if other sites have better balances (and are aware of them) then so it goes.

Probably worth revisiting jbr's last posts here, tbh.

The Runaways - classic or dud?

are U a straight white male

I am still a fan of ILX, though.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:30 (one year ago) link

I posted 17 or so years ago and left after a thread I started turned into some old fashioned meanness and subsequently lurked after. Current board seems less tough

kolakube (Ross), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:31 (one year ago) link

Hi wins!

xps I am in many ways thankful for the grand work the bullying has done, but maybe now it can just be a meme (until the next time he casts a sweeping generalisation with certainty).

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:33 (one year ago) link

you're all pricks!

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link

hey tt! not seen you post much outside of metal poll!

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:35 (one year ago) link

x-post - awww! I was just kidding. Fwiw the worst thing I've ever seen you post was the fish/chocolate thing. <3

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:37 (one year ago) link

worse than poppage?

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:37 (one year ago) link

it really has been just a meme for most of the last decade tt!

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:37 (one year ago) link

I think that's true for some posters but not for others

scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:38 (one year ago) link

Most of my posts are sent internally but sometimes I post on the emo thread

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:38 (one year ago) link

I once saw real ILE people on the street and I was so amazed, like some fabric of reality unwound right there, I could not bring myself to make contact - how weird!

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:39 (one year ago) link

(You can see why ;_;)

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:39 (one year ago) link

x-post I honestly don't remember the origins or meaning of poppage (no, I don't want you to tell me) at this point!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:39 (one year ago) link

The chocolate thing (cockles in red wine iirc?) was nightmarish tbh

scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:39 (one year ago) link

Internal sending is an amazing Zen artform and I wish I'd been born with the ability tbh

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link

re irl interactions i feel like if i meet a fatmantis i'll just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CsyGe4F8CQ

Global Arming's Terrifying Old Math$ (Hunt3r), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:41 (one year ago) link

I *just* wrapped up all of lunagate and obviously knew the surface story (found post below). The rest is super sad. That all really sucks.

boys = so easily fooled by big boobies

― Yerac, Tuesday, 16 October 2007

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:43 (one year ago) link

let's all start Hootsuite

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:47 (one year ago) link

TT, I can vouch for LJ being the princest among men, though I do feel nearly all on board here feel the same and it's "all in good fun". Until it stops being fun, I know I know, but ILX loves the lad dearly, believe <3

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:55 (one year ago) link

neverban luriqua jagger

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:59 (one year ago) link

Aaww that’s nice! I think I am overly sensitive and defensive. imago is mostly indifferent to comments in any case haha xp

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:01 (one year ago) link

luriqua was truly more than human

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:04 (one year ago) link

I bet he is. Insensitive bastard :D

You are in yr right to defend and b sensitive over the lad tho.

(you prob know he *hugely* helped me out recently w/ something and when ever I get back to London I will repay the good deed. love ot you both <3)

xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:05 (one year ago) link

I have no beef with LJ beyond his accursed youth. Must you taunt us so.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:05 (one year ago) link

i'm 31 as of last week! flopson is the new 'damn u young' guy

luriqua came back quite recently for one post and it was so joyous

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:06 (one year ago) link

what? on what thread???

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:07 (one year ago) link

when i started posting here i was several years younger than LJ is now.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:07 (one year ago) link

also LBI don't bet against our meeting being in Sint Annaparochie - I enjoy a good adventure. to be continued...

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:09 (one year ago) link

imago is mostly indifferent to comments in any case haha

Yes we can tell.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:10 (one year ago) link

crutis was really young when he started.

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:12 (one year ago) link

Did we ever find out if it really was Aja posting or her mum pretending?

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:12 (one year ago) link

Ohh, most welcome imago! We have bogs here. And peat. Scrawny locals barking in ye olde dying language. You'll love it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:14 (one year ago) link

luriqua came back quite recently for one post and it was so joyous

― imago, Monday, February 26, 2018 3:06 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait what...????

i will give you my home phone number call me collect international if this happens again

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:15 (one year ago) link

God it feels like 20-whenever-things-were-good in here

LJ likes to think I rib him good naturedly but it's not fhi

Lol at LBI and his cod-ireland theme park

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:16 (one year ago) link

Lol at LBI and his cod-ireland theme park

― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, February 26, 2018 9:16 PM (fifteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Haha! Best be rushing yr skinny Irish arse up 'ere before LJ beats you to the punch iirc

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:17 (one year ago) link

bogs means bog birdwatching, i'm down

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:18 (one year ago) link

also lol 'cod-ireland theme park'

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:18 (one year ago) link

Bemused at skinny from a man I've met no less

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:19 (one year ago) link

fwiw I never want xyzzzz to stop upbraiding LJ

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:22 (one year ago) link

I have a real job but that hasn't stopped me, tbh. Also I get the majority of my news and commentary from ilx, the denizens of this remit mostly supplying the info and angles that I need to understand things. Other news outlets are largely incomprehensible and/or don't really give the inside scoop commentary that I appreciate.

ilx feels less like a "freewheeling" space where anything could happen, these days, but half of what could happen back then was going to be mean, sexist, racist, or some variation on all three. There were major shakeups among nb/nyc ilxors back in the day incl v srs interpersonal issues. It wasn't all kittens and bike polo.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:22 (one year ago) link

The bike polo aspect was so overrated imo

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:23 (one year ago) link

xp to LJ

Renowned for it! Avocets, spotted redshanks, red knots, common redshanks, grey plovers, bar-tailed godwits, golden plovers, curlews, dunlins. All here.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

Skinny is relative Deems, compared to me iirc

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

ah man, wading birds are p much my favourite and you have named nothing but wading birds

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

it occurred to me once that the only people who never bug me on facebook are past and present ilx people. like, ever. plus, i never have to explain myself to ilxors there when i post something. which is another reason why i still come here. that and the ocd.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:25 (one year ago) link

I sort of miss when jon used to break the nb so that it would rain neon unicorns or w/e across the screen, I have to admit.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:26 (one year ago) link

i'm 31 as of last week! flopson is the new 'damn u young' guy

― imago, Monday, February 26, 2018 4:06 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah there are quite a few posters who are younger than me now, most notable is flappy bird iirc

flopson, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:27 (one year ago) link

Wading birds R us

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:30 (one year ago) link

I just realized who in orbit is. I think.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:30 (one year ago) link

fwiw I never want xyzzzz to stop upbraiding LJ

― Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Its nice to be appreciated like this.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:32 (one year ago) link

half of what could happen back then was going to be mean, sexist, racist, or some variation on all three. There were major shakeups among nb/nyc ilxors back in the day incl v srs interpersonal issues. It wasn't all kittens and bike polo.
otm
it never seemed very hospitable to me, but i did enjoy watching the insider/outsider language grow, change, and pretty much disappear
where are these secret chatrooms?!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link

fp'd jclc for forgetting when the speed-up started

mark s, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link

there is an ilx group on facebook but nobody ever goes there.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:35 (one year ago) link

except geir

mark s, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

i was never invited to that

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:37 (one year ago) link

sorry - realised that luriqua didn't actually return a couple of years ago after all

here is his final confirmed sighting, in 2014: your terrible ideas

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

Wasn't there a late night aim chatroom that people would start and invite certain people to? I can't really remember.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

Yes aim/ILX was a thing for a good while.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:39 (one year ago) link

Yerac I have literally been to your house. Two of them. (laurel)

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:40 (one year ago) link

all the internet is bad not good

mark s, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:40 (one year ago) link

It was. I miss putting shoes on my head tho I don't know that anyone will remember that.

I think there is a regional slack room for one group and then I know about one entirely separate "secret" board but I am not a part of either.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:41 (one year ago) link

CHATZ on AIM

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:42 (one year ago) link

tho enbb will remember we all did some yahoo webcam thing for a while. I wonder what happened to CHAD?!!

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:43 (one year ago) link

Oh I remember that. That was actaully very fun. Wait - I only barely remember Chad. Who was chad?? Some random person, right?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:45 (one year ago) link

aye some californian guy , i think we crashed his room

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:46 (one year ago) link

AG, I remember where I was living at the time and think that was all 2008 so exactly 10 years ago. O_O

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:46 (one year ago) link

Chadz

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:47 (one year ago) link

I wonder if chad is still broadcasting his life 24/7 on webcam

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:47 (one year ago) link

Yeah I was just thinking that (10 years argh)

Colonel Poo, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:48 (one year ago) link

I miss putting shoes on my head tho I don't know that anyone will remember that.

I remember. I also remember “buttz”. In fact I never forgot buttz, not even for a minute

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 21:48 (one year ago) link

oh no my chadz

mark s, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:48 (one year ago) link

Chad from California. I'm sure you can track him down. How many can there be?

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:49 (one year ago) link

We should all hang out in KM's twitch stream chat

Evan, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:50 (one year ago) link

KM will keep us together, it's the truth.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:53 (one year ago) link

In Orbit, I am so bad about figuring out who people are when they don't have their original name in parentheses. I just re-read all the luna posts and so much is coming back to me. Like, how much I disliked the TITTWIS threads.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:54 (one year ago) link

And yeah, I think I blocked out how mean some people were, but I am probably comparing it to how terrible most of the internet is nowadays.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 21:55 (one year ago) link

ILX's old school paragraph long vicious screeds or succinct insults like "you waste. you little man." seem pretty quaint compared to trump-era internet.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:00 (one year ago) link

think putting the usernames at the bottom of the post instead of on top or on the side like other message boards affects the experience a lot. you read the post, then who posted it. for a while I never really paid attention to who was who, unless they had really good music taste. I wondered why I was getting yelled at in half the threads I posted in until I realized it was like the same two people every time

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:03 (one year ago) link

The blue sticks out too much for me for that to be true tbh. But the plain and simpleness of ilx is obv its USP.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:05 (one year ago) link

And your rocky start was mentioned but you've redeemed yourself more than fully thru the vaporwave shares and yessing out imo

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

I didn't realize that they changed the display name properties so you can't just change it completely without the parentheses showing up.

Yerac, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

as someone who does the least possible to maintain whatever social media accounts i have, i find other forms of online interaction are typically more prescriptive about how much you have to engage with them and i appreciate that ilx has a pretty free-moving sliding scale, usual social impediments aside. there is an experience for ppl who want to join in and post voluminously and get involved with off board stuff, and there is an experience for ppl who want to trick their brain that they are interacting with other human beings even when they have no inclination (or aptitude) to actually do so.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:10 (one year ago) link

i'm one of the admins of a facebook group with 15,000+ members and originally i really dug it and stopped going on ILM at all but it has since devolved into beatles shit and dudes and i kinda can't stand it now. but it has been a long winter. there are ilxors there. and some who have left that group too! or stopped posting anyway. when ilx is 100% beatles shit and dudes it will be time to pull the plug.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:15 (one year ago) link

you can't compare the sniping interpersonal meanness of ilx with grand scale hate-based movements like the alt right or whatever
i don't think the current climate makes the old mean spiritedness seem gentler, it just seems like it has spread and grown tbh

"100% beatles shit" made me lol :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:18 (one year ago) link

the mean-spiritedness or obnoxious bantz or whatever happened here was generally between people who had an understanding of what the other person was about, even if it was the basis for grinding axes

we're not banding together to hate entire classes of people, other than shit beatles dudes

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:23 (one year ago) link

Otm.

Yellow Submarine though... That 23rd take on the reissue of Bantz Records, where Ringo whistles the tune through his nose? Pretty wild.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:26 (one year ago) link

scott i'm in that group! i think i'm going to post only hip-hop CDs on there now.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:27 (one year ago) link

Did Gaz coombes ever play with any of the beatles

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:32 (one year ago) link

Fifth Beatle iirc

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 26 February 2018 22:33 (one year ago) link

you cannot play music without -in some sense- playing with the beatles. that is a fact of rock.

alien lames (NickB), Monday, 26 February 2018 22:40 (one year ago) link

everything i do, i do it for them

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 February 2018 23:02 (one year ago) link

everyone knows art pepper replaced his sex addiction with heroin. few know that his sex addiction replaced trolling deej.

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 February 2018 23:51 (one year ago) link

nobody could troll like (flappy) Bird anyhow

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 February 2018 23:53 (one year ago) link

Just an aside but I probably took comments more personally as a teenager when someone calling me "damaged goods" for liking an artist would get under my skin. Nowadays that probably wouldn't bother me much

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:03 (one year ago) link

worse it was a gang of four poll

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:06 (one year ago) link

xp depends on what artist tbh

damn Sufjan

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:06 (one year ago) link

Right now I know who tt is, I thought LJ had just made this person up - not really.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 01:28 (one year ago) link

There were permabans for financial fraud, forgery, following etc posters offboard, and everybody else I'm aware of getting banned (perm or temp) deserved it at the time, whether they got it together later or not.
I miss a lot of other ilxors, some of whom have died.
Twitter can be at least or at most good for informative links: I recently snagged one for a complete run of Ed Sanders' Fuck You, A Magazine Of The Arts. The Mute button is a blessed thing, for when you want to get rid of somebody without hurting their feelings---they won't know they're muted, just think you and they have lost each other in the tumblin' tweeterweeds of followers etc.. (Now, if only we could mute by subject or keyword, please Jesus.)
also totally makes sense to me that a lot of people i knew here who started writing more and more seriously and more professionally would stop typing so much somewhere for free. it takes mental energy out of you.

― scott seward
It's a good place to try out first drafts, loose grafs, also for procrastination of course---it takes mental energy out of you.Sometimes that's the goal!

dow, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:00 (one year ago) link

i had written a KM-length post and scrapped it because who cares right so ill say this: last year we had a series of twin peaks threads going right through the revival series, and everyone was thoughtful and positive and nobody was a dick at any point, and the whole thing was just lovely. in 16? 17? 14? years it was easily my favourite ilx experience of all time. that epitomises what keeps me on ilx these days and it’s fucking tops imo (increasingly lopsided gender balance notwithstanding)

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:13 (one year ago) link


i had written a KM-length post and scrapped it because who cares right

oh gawd, grimacing lol! i should probably learn that lesson too. but yeah i completely agree, that was an ideal way to experience the show.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:17 (one year ago) link

oh no i meant nobody cares about the specific shit that i wrote

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:26 (one year ago) link

yours was quality

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:30 (one year ago) link

you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become an Ilxor

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:36 (one year ago) link

maybe we should ilx achievements (like 1000 posts or You Got 51'd, Whoa) that would add some artificial heroism to the ILX experience

xpost to AA

aw shit, sorry! and what you said was totally innocuous, i don't know what my deal is lately.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 03:50 (one year ago) link

things to love about ilx in the 2018th year of our lord: return of the hoos, hoops board (which has the best mod), in many ways historically most chill this place has ever been, alfred still posts here

things to not love: men (generally)

i miss the teacher homies horseshoe and abbott (altho i still see horseshoe once in a blue moon).

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 04:00 (one year ago) link

at least horseshoe still posts on occasion. abbott not posting at all sucks a lot. one of the few things i regret about ditching facebook is at least being able to see what abbott was up to there.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 04:15 (one year ago) link

most consecutive bumps of a single thread w/ no comments in between would be a cool achievement. I'd probably be on the Top 10 list like five or six times

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 04:17 (one year ago) link

X-post I miss them both a lot.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 04:59 (one year ago) link

Did jbr/get bent leave for good? I'm not here enough to keep up with dn/login changes.

naus, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 07:02 (one year ago) link

Also miss seeing gygax/steve shasta post here.

naus, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 07:03 (one year ago) link

jbr/get bent

ohhh

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 07:04 (one year ago) link

this thread has been instructive

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 07:04 (one year ago) link

Did jbr/get bent leave for good? I'm not here enough to keep up with dn/login changes.

covered upthread: yes, and sadly

bodybuilder-strong cosine on missing Abbott

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 08:13 (one year ago) link

JBL (JBR) active on both twooter and 'stagram, with different content, btw

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 08:14 (one year ago) link

I was gonna post about all these ilxors I miss, but I bet they’re all still posting under different display names and I haven’t figured it out yet. Love u ilx, but being able to change display names is a huge flaw.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 11:55 (one year ago) link

i was thinking about the stylesheets thing but on a little deeper level of design. it would be sick if ILX updated threads and board topics in automated ways, in a reactive manner where the user doesn't have to page refresh to see changes. i'd be stoked if the new answers were updated every minute or so, and the threads worked more like chat. mr snrub might be right about limiting display names but i'm not rlly sure how all that works. some people have, um, two names? one of which is the display name, and that changes? or both change? idk.

davey, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 12:15 (one year ago) link

The old fashioned, minimal display that stays put unless you refresh it is the best thing about this board imo.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 12:18 (one year ago) link

I am also fond of it, though there's probably a few things here that I'm fonder of.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 12:39 (one year ago) link

A: this thread

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 12:44 (one year ago) link

Yes, ONE OF the best things about this board is the ability to view and post at work without giving the appearance that I'm fucking around. Turning images off helps immensely in that regard.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:02 (one year ago) link

^^^^^yes.

Simon H., Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:08 (one year ago) link

the more boring and stripped down and static it looks the better, for many of us, for this reason.

Simon H., Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:09 (one year ago) link

I suspect that people have not been leaving ilx at a higher rate than they did 5/10/15 years ago, the issue is that there's no fresh blood because 20 y/os don't know what message boards are

iatee, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:09 (one year ago) link

The more boring and stripped down and static it looks, the more it keeps morons and assholes from signing up.

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:20 (one year ago) link

if you guys miss those women posters so much, you should personally invite them back! encourage them to return!
the alternative is to go back to facebook. where most of them are active.
lamenting their absence over and over is futile

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:31 (one year ago) link

xp: Every time I mention message boards in front of my 14-year-old, he repeats the words back to me with sarcarstic implied quotes: "message boards..."

how's life, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:40 (one year ago) link

Sometimes I think about encouraging friends to post, maybe try to increase the number of women but mostly to get new interesting people here. But then I realize I don’t want them reading through my posting history....which isn’t tol bad, but maybe too candid

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:49 (one year ago) link

the funny thing about people talking about the death of message boards that reddit is basically just forums/mbs with a goofy upvoting mechanism

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:52 (one year ago) link

I got my friend to post here: slothroprhymes

I beg him to post regularly again but he just doesn't have the ilx bug anymore I guess. Only shows up occasionally these days.

Evan, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 13:59 (one year ago) link

What if we could be the posters we wished to see in the world tho

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:01 (one year ago) link

There's no way I'd invite friends to ilx tbh. Every user should go through the ordeal of stumbling onto this gfs place.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:04 (one year ago) link

otm

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:06 (one year ago) link

i got beth parker to post here. my work is done.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:08 (one year ago) link

why recruit and train/season new people when you could just invite the old people back?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:09 (one year ago) link

they'll come crawling back eventually

j., Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:10 (one year ago) link

no they won't
they don't crawl!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:13 (one year ago) link

Every user should go through the ordeal of stumbling onto this gfs place.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:04 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know if you missed the posts about the exodus of female ilxors, but even before that, this has never really been a girlfriends place.

how's life, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:15 (one year ago) link

I did tell one of my friends about ILX, or ILM specifically, as they're a music fan with broad tastes and someone who had helped persuade me away from some rockist tendencies I had in my late teens/early 20s, but iirc they post on DiS and I probably put them off by saying I hadn't read DiS myself but ILM people are pretty snobby about it.

Come to think of it they're a big fan of Sufjan Stevens so maybe it was for the best.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:17 (one year ago) link

my wife hasn't posted here in years.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:18 (one year ago) link

i did tell her the trump threads were pretty good. i think she looked at one. she likes twitter.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:18 (one year ago) link

there should be a random googler week. open the board up so that people don't have to log in. just for fun. for a week.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:21 (one year ago) link

i don't generally get much out of these blow-up megathreads but this one's been kind of interesting.

so first off "why do people leave ilx?" isn't the question we're answering at this point - people have always left ilx, for any number of reasons, but there have historically been new posters to make up for the departures.

there aren't now because the ilx model is socially obsolete. a thread like this, even when it's interesting, is hard to read, hard to keep up with. more importantly, like la lechera says you can't cultivate followers or quantify how much people like your thoughts.

and this is why i'm here - because i'm in a lot of senses an obsolete person. i post on message boards because i don't want to know how few people are genuinely interested in what i have to say. i like not having the pressure to say things based on whether or not people will "like" them.

honestly, what ilx 2018 reminds me of is ye olde days of usenet. not the end, which was spam and endless recriminations and rancor, but the early days. like ilx today, usenet was... esoteric. there's some kind of weird "seven ages of man" shit going on in my mind.

the weird thing, weirdest thing, is that i don't really know any of you, that's the difference. i got my set of old usenet war buds on facebook and we hang out and talk a lot and with y'all it's different. maybe one day, i don't know!

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:26 (one year ago) link

My w1fe posted here a number of times before I met her or even knew about the board. Several people she knows post here on occasion still. She hasn't posted since 2006.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

Did your w1fe introduce you then, or is it pure coincidence you started posting here too?

(also is your w1fe a sock?)

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:31 (one year ago) link

lots of people have come to say hi to me at my store. even posters who rarely post or who mostly lurk and whose online name i didn't remember. it's nice. they are always nice.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:32 (one year ago) link

omg omar's married to garu g???

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:34 (one year ago) link

there aren't now because the ilx model is socially obsolete. a thread like this, even when it's interesting, is hard to read, hard to keep up with. more importantly, like la lechera says you can't cultivate followers or quantify how much people like your thoughts.

— Rashomon

I am too young to have “really” known the old internet — pre-social media. But it seems better? Even blogs were more curated spaces than self-promotion devices. There is creativity happening in places like Instagram but it’s all instantly commodified or something or more accurately decontextualized — dissolved into a thousand newsfeeds. That’s why the zeitgeist is so “loud” now and everyone sounds the same. I don’t read reddit but it seems like... hell or soemthing like it, and probably in the end bcc it is too democratic...

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:35 (one year ago) link

One of my good friends is the mod of a humungous subreddit and she doesn’t think it’s so bad so who knows.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:36 (one year ago) link

i post on message boards because i don't want to know how few people are genuinely interested in what i have to say. i like not having the pressure to say things based on whether or not people will "like" them.
same
if not wanting to cultivate followers makes me obsolete, so be it! i don't see this changing about myself.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:37 (one year ago) link

i would like to visit Scott's store someday

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:40 (one year ago) link

Total coincidence! She posted 2003-2006.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:40 (one year ago) link

i would like to visit Scott's store someday

I should probably try to do this before I leave MA!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:44 (one year ago) link

I've been bummed out by ilx once or twice but I can't imagine leaving, let alone for good. Been here for a while but it doesn't seem terribly different from when I first arrived. Yeah, a bunch of smart/perceptive/funny people are gone, but I also think it feels a little less ... cliquey? I treat it like a bunch of smart kids shouting across each other at the lunch table about everything at once, in a good way.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:45 (one year ago) link

It seems melodramatic to think of it as "leaving ilx". But I do realize it takes that kind of thinking in order to actually tear yourself away if a break is needed.

Evan, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

there aren't now because the ilx model is socially obsolete. a thread like this, even when it's interesting, is hard to read, hard to keep up with. more importantly, like la lechera says you can't cultivate followers or quantify how much people like your thoughts.

and this is why i'm here - because i'm in a lot of senses an obsolete person. i post on message boards because i don't want to know how few people are genuinely interested in what i have to say. i like not having the pressure to say things based on whether or not people will "like" them.

honestly, what ilx 2018 reminds me of is ye olde days of usenet. not the end, which was spam and endless recriminations and rancor, but the early days. like ilx today, usenet was... esoteric. there's some kind of weird "seven ages of man" shit going on in my mind.

As mentioned above, the connection to Usenet is not accidental. I find this model easier to read than the over-cluttered, pointlessly complex formats of most contemporary social media, though!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:55 (one year ago) link

Like, I use Facebook all the time but how does anyone search for and find anything there?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 14:59 (one year ago) link

facebook is death and i think of leaving it all the time

marcos, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

xpost Very carefully.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

I think there's a fine line between an ascetic Web 1.0 experience and appearing so old and busted that new users are turned off reflexively. We've walked that line for a while, but I think Google is getting tougher and tougher on places like this, so we are losing out in search rankings which means a smaller people of passersby to get interested.

On top of that, there's no doubt we're optimised for a desktop web world — and many of the people who would join a place like this are on phones now. Zing is okayish if you're already invested, but you're not going to pay up just to read a thread.

The shifting gender balance is by far the most concerning thing, to my mind, all that said. (Would be v. keen to hear any technical ideas that might help w/that)

stet, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:06 (one year ago) link

compulsory partner recruitment

imago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:10 (one year ago) link

I treat it like a bunch of smart kids shouting across each other at the lunch table about everything at once, in a good way.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:45 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM. There's something about feeling like the dumb guy at that table that makes ILX very appealing to me. I gotta hustle to keep up.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:13 (one year ago) link

facebook is death and i think of leaving it all the time

― marcos, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:02 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I recently defriended everybody except for my family. Had been really tired of FB for years - like you said, it's death - but didn't want to get rid of it because it comes in handy for certain things like school announcements, local events, and keeping in touch with relatives.

Everybody else was mostly just part of a 10-year-long ongoing high school/college reunion.

how's life, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:15 (one year ago) link

I was very slow to sign up for Facebook, as I was pretty distrustful of it (and dubious of its merits) from the start, and I think time has only further borne out my initial suspicions.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:18 (one year ago) link

for me, my continued presence at the table is a demand to be allowed to sit at the table and contribute. which i do to varying degrees depending on my comfort level and the likelihood of being attacked
this is reality when you are a female/female-coded/femme person in the world (apologies if i don't have the terms correct) even if no one can see that you are a woman.

when assholism ran this place, it was more difficult and many women didn't feel it was worth their effort.
if you can make it worth their effort by offering them a seat, inviting them to return, saying "we lament the loss of your voice at the table" maybe they will come back?
just a thought

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:18 (one year ago) link

^^ I like this idea

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

If anybody has left because of a person(s) I'm not sure they will come back if said person(s) are still here

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:22 (one year ago) link

Most of the bullies/major irritants are gone, right? At leasr most that were mentioned on this thread. (Some, I guess, as we’ve seen swing by on occasion for drive by style attacks on the community.)

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:24 (one year ago) link

at the very least the culture of rewarding assholism has changed to a noticeable degree
the apprehension about their potential return is a real concern for me and others too i'm sure
i just have to balance the benefits of continuing to be here and realize that for now, if i retreat, i lose more than i gain. if that balance changes, i don't see why i would stick around either. i don't need that shit.
that's just me

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:29 (one year ago) link

Id like better gender diversity too, not sure that a txt with “congrats, you are ready for (a return to) ilx” will persuade.

Global Arming's Terrifying Old Math$ (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:32 (one year ago) link

there should be a random googler week. open the board up so that people don't have to log in. just for fun. for a week.

― scott seward

cosigning this, sounds fun

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:33 (one year ago) link

then don't send them a text like that
there are ways to approach this if you are serious. if you want 100 reasons not to do it, i can come up with those too
i am reminded of this https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/12/opinion/real-men-might-get-made-fun-of.html

I know there’s pressure not to be a dorky, try-hard male feminist stereotype; there’s always a looming implication that you could lose your spot in the club; if you seem opportunistic or performative in your support, if you suck up too much oxygen and demand praise, women will yell at you for that too. But I need you to absorb that risk. I need you to get yelled at and made fun of, a lot, and if you get kicked out of the club, I need you to be relieved, and I need you to help build a new one.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

Bullies do more than just bully, the rest of the time they might be interesting, intelligent, entertaining - whatever you want an ilxor to be.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:35 (one year ago) link

I feel like there was a year or two where there were so many faps and people all really socialized a lot off board. That died away, people kept some friends, went to friendster/myspace/fb or not. I was a late fb joiner and never used it until Trump got elected and I felt a need to connect more online because I was also traveling a lot and didn't have permanence. That has kind of led me back to ilx.

Yerac, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

Other people often like the bullies and overlook and excuse the fact that they are arseholes.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:37 (one year ago) link

yes, there have been many bullying enablers.

welcome back yerac. there used to be a lot more irl socializing but i chalk that up to age/major life changes. i still prefer to see people/socialize irl but this will do in a pinch.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:41 (one year ago) link

Yeah, everyone got old and tired. I look back and think it was kind of odd that ilxors went out every weekend together. But it was fun.

Yerac, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:44 (one year ago) link

Other people often like the bullies and overlook and excuse the fact that they are arseholes.

― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:37 AM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Otherwise decent posters tittering at assholery (presumably at least in part because they don't want to get hit with the asshole stick themselves) is one of the more disheartening trends I've seen on the board. But just human nature, I guess.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:56 (one year ago) link

I'm not shy about calling out even posters that I like when they pull a dick move.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:57 (one year ago) link

Lookit

Sometimes windbaggery is arseholery sometimes hobbyhorsing is arseholery sometimes soapboxing is arseholery sometimes naivety is arseholery
Sometimes zinging is arseholery
Sometimes tho it might be good

No hard and fast rule but rly again the wounds should be well licked by now if the zing era hit anyone that hard

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:07 (one year ago) link

then invite them back!
that's my idea.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:07 (one year ago) link

idea: if you're a male and you want to increase the ratio of men-women on ilx but you don't want to invite women to come post maybe just stop posting yourself that'll help the ratio w/ a minimal amount of effort on yr part

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:09 (one year ago) link

Well yeah

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:10 (one year ago) link

As a 99.9% ILM poster I really like the plug.dj room and I’d love it if it was populated 24/7.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:15 (one year ago) link

oh it's definitely time for a return to the plug room

ogmor, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:28 (one year ago) link

Bullies do more than just bully, the rest of the time they might be interesting, intelligent, entertaining - whatever you want an ilxor to be.

― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:35 AM (one hour ago)

and they're not always the same posters, too! some grow into it, others grow out of it. It's obvious (with a few exceptions) from the large number of posters and posts on this thread, that we're not even thinking of the same people as "bullies" ... not that the thinly veiled "we all know who is a horrible" discussion is particularly "nice" either, considering it could easily be read by the persons in question. Both tendencies are kinda shitty to be on the receiving end of ... not that I haven't been on the giving end as well. This place can be a challenge to act like a decent person.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:45 (one year ago) link

it's always a little jarring to see siegbran post on ILE. siegbran and gottpunch the only people i look to on ilm for music recommendations. which is why i'm not there that much.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:51 (one year ago) link

I would like to invite roxy and JBR and tehresa and tokyo rosemary and some others back to more regular ILX posting but i also can understand that maybe they all left for reasons that also included wanting to break free from habitual posting on a website.

i want MAX to return!

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:55 (one year ago) link

Max, the guy, that was responsible for treating people like shit irl and getting paid for it -- you want that dude back?

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

MAX couldn't handle opposing viewpoints.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:58 (one year ago) link

i think positing that ppl leave ilx bc it's mean is giving ilx way too much credit. the internet is far crueler. ppl leave ilx bc it's boring and has little original insight to offer. this is partially bc posters w/ original insight have abandoned the site and the posters that have remained are excellent at writing punny trump nicknames - a skill that, alas, is not in high demand as supply is at historically high levels. if you really like breathless takes on every twitter politics update of the day tho ilx is at least one of the top 50 sites for such content.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:01 (one year ago) link

Lookit #2

If we're going to start a weighing up of individual named posters good and bad:

1: give each their own thread at least
2: max is a loooong way down the list on a positive/negative analysis

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

Nonsense, ILX is freer of Trump puns than most of the internet - you mostly just have to never click on the rolling US politics thread, which is a good idea anyway. xpost

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

what does down the list mean though

imago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

i think positing that ppl leave ilx bc it's mean is giving ilx way too much credit.

It's not even that

It's a misdiagnosis

Seen through a very narrow lens of ilx now

Which isn't as good but isn't zingy

But it's kind of ridiculous really to continuously repeat the assertion

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

i'd like to think we're all intelligent enough to know that not everyone has the same ilx experience. some posters avoid the mean parts, others are drawn to the mean parts. some posters blend in and are not targeted. others (who are still posting here) have gotten monumental amounts of shit from other posters. others who have experienced only a fraction of that shit have left over it.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:09 (one year ago) link

Real talk here: I feel like Branwell and LJ have been the most shat upon posters in the 9 years I've been posting here.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:10 (one year ago) link

xp
I've thought about it. I don't post that much, don't really have a lot of connections to folks at ILX, get most of my music news elsewhere, and tbh was never the most apt messageboard guy anyway, even when I was on them every day. I like that ILX never became facebook, as far as likes/quantifiable feedback, but otoh sometimes it feels like Twitter. So, if I left, it would be because I was finally ready to say "I dgaf whether someone I don't know thinks my post is otm". I don't need to be at the table, or at least not this kind of table. Where's the table that can read your innermost thoughts and validate your innermost valuables without you having to be sociable about it? Oh yeah, it's the embittered solitary novelist table.

Dominique, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:12 (one year ago) link

it's not really that we're too cruel or not cruel enough. we should be less cruel to eccentric unique posters and more cruel to landfill posters. instead we mock the posters who stand out (and therefore contribute to the site) and let the idiot contributions from the ilx peanut gallery go uncommented upon.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:12 (one year ago) link

ppl posting one word "otm" posts have been a blight on this site for as long as i've been here. if you're not adding anything with your post why are you posting?

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:13 (one year ago) link

otm

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:14 (one year ago) link

someone invite tynan back

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:15 (one year ago) link

otm

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:15 (one year ago) link

ilx really puts the 'mean' in 'average'

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:15 (one year ago) link

sarahell otm about the wide variety of user experiences

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:16 (one year ago) link

*must not post OTM here*

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

block poster / killfile helps a lot w the landfill iirc

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

it's not really that we're too cruel or not cruel enough. we should be less cruel to eccentric unique posters and more cruel to landfill posters. instead we mock the posters who stand out (and therefore contribute to the site) and let the idiot contributions from the ilx peanut gallery go uncommented upon.

― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:12 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Too simplistic again imo.

Worth isn't a binary.

Unique behaviour can be as shitty or as boring as anything else.

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

Tom D. otm

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

i keep thinking the board misses the self-important ambitious posting of yore but then i look at the self-important posters who are left

ogmor, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:18 (one year ago) link

I may have been shat upon but I've had the near-indestructible private school self-confidence to just keep on at it. Others haven't had the privilege of such a robust psychological defence

imago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:19 (one year ago) link

constantly seeking out hazing is a way to live, I guess

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:21 (one year ago) link

No LJ you're just oblivious I think

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:21 (one year ago) link

imago is deeply beloved by me, he reminds me of my brother

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:21 (one year ago) link

mh - i think the term for that is "power bottom"

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:22 (one year ago) link

If LJ were my brother he'd have had it battered out of him early enough that it would have stuck but he is what he is and we're fond of him in our own way

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:22 (one year ago) link

I had some "friends" who were genuinely jerks when I was a kid and it took me a number of years to realize that I'd fight back against them by being passive aggressive or finding modes of conversation they hated and using them. Horrible way to live.

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:25 (one year ago) link

when i was a kid i didn't get along w/ a lot of the other students who i felt were bullies and cruel. one time i asked someone who was mean to me why they didn't like me and they said that it was because i didn't like them. this must've been around 5th grade. it lead to a lifelong journey of noticing how the attitudes i express, sometimes subconsciously, sometimes w/ just looks or snide remarks, but never taking responsibility for the affect i was putting out, actually generated the responses i got from people. it's v rare that someone bullies bambi. generally they're bullying some covert passive-aggressive bully who thinks they're bambi.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:28 (one year ago) link

Victim blambing

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:29 (one year ago) link

People def bully Bambi, key word here is generally in your case

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:33 (one year ago) link

Who Killfiled Bambi?

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:33 (one year ago) link

Lol

scotti pruitti (wins), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:34 (one year ago) link

Your intentions can be pure but someone may just hate the way you look or don't think you fit in

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:34 (one year ago) link

I thought they just killed 'is mum?

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:35 (one year ago) link

Your intentions can be pure but someone may just hate the way you look or don't think you fit in

yeah if it's one person but the aphorism about assholes applies. if you run into one asshole etc. if everyone is "bullying" you you may just have a persecution complex and a shitty personality.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

KM otm!

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

Fair enough Mordy. Point taken!

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:39 (one year ago) link

@scott ever since Site New Answers I don’t really notice whether threads are ILE or ILM, I just tend to post on music threads. Even there I don’t post much beyond the metal, ambient and italo discussions, I don’t feel comfortable talking about rap, jazz, pop or classical even though I listen to that just as much, happy to just vote for it around yearly poll time.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:40 (one year ago) link

usually I leave for months at a time because I feel inferior to everybody and probably took something someone said to me way too personally but I come back cos I find things on here that I don't find elsewhere.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

i went through your 2017 metal list on Youtube and had a lot of fun doing it. it's exactly the kind of stuff i want to hear more of. cheers.

x-post

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:44 (one year ago) link

can we all bully mordy off the board now pls

ogmor, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:49 (one year ago) link

after reading Neanderthal's comment and agreeing with it, I think I just realized I left ILX for a protracted period because Google Reader and my (relatively) new job took its place for a few years, and then I gradually started coming back and posting after they killed Google Reader and life got slightly less hectic (and also because I found out about Zing Touch)

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:49 (one year ago) link

Have left periodically because of boredom - with myself and the board. I don't think I've ever seriously fallen out with anyone or been especially upset by anyone. Also, real life stuff.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:50 (one year ago) link

everyone yelled at Calum on ILX and he left and wrote, like, five books. i'd like to think that we inspired him. i would also probably read his book on Cannibal Holocaust published by Columbia University Press.

https://cup.columbia.edu/book/cannibal-holocaust/9781911325116

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:51 (one year ago) link

a well-timed otm can imbue a discussion with a deep richness of meaning that would be missing otherwise

had (crüt), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:52 (one year ago) link

yeah if it's one person but the aphorism about assholes applies. if you run into one asshole etc. if everyone is "bullying" you you may just have a persecution complex and a shitty personality.

― Mordy, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:38 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when everyone on ilx is bullying/'bullying' someone it's usually because ppl get the scent of blood and want to take part in the pile on as much as anything else imo? (or you get a person who's no good at shrugging off zings, so every thread they post in becomes dominated by then indignantly pushing back against criticism and pissing off everyone, including those who weren't even bothered by whatever the original infraction that prompted the criticism was)

soref, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:52 (one year ago) link

new one from Edinburgh University Press this year:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Style-Sleaze-Exploitation-1959-1977-Traditions/dp/1474409253

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:53 (one year ago) link

can we all bully mordy off the board now pls

please

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:56 (one year ago) link

it's the only way you'll learn

ogmor, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link

i love u all :*

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:57 (one year ago) link

For a moment, forget the bad days

brimstead, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

generally they're bullying some covert passive-aggressive bully who thinks they're bambi

you're doing what every person everywhere does, which is to generalize from your own experience to understand the world and the experience of others, but as valuable as this reflex is, it never delivers as much as it promises. the lesson you learned in fifth grade was extremely valuable to you, and for the very reason that it is so vivid and valued, it is induces a kind of blindness to the experiences it does not fit.

fwiw, the bambi types present a safe tackling dummy for those who feel a need to display their tackling ability. they are especially at risk during the big social scrum that happens at puberty, where so many power dynamics are being explored and exploited.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

i have met exactly 0 true bambis irl - at least as adults

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

therefore, they never existed. see my first sentence once more.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:01 (one year ago) link

soref otm, i think that covers a lot of bullying IRL. i knew someone who was relentlessly bullied in school and then he moved to another state. we reconnected years later and i asked him how his school career was after that and he said it was the move was the best thing that could have happened to him. he didn't use this phrase but my sense was that he felt free and he could reboot and no one would know he'd been bullied before.

if you're someone who has been bullied, it's not that your personality is shitty (wtf) it's that it's hard to turn it around and come back from that in the eyes of others. the people who bullied you are not likely to suddenly become your best friends, and the people who stood idly by are not suddenly going to think you're the world's coolest kid.

i've always been glad i generally coasted through middle school and high school without taking much shit from others. but even so when i left my hometown damn that felt like a freeing moment.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:02 (one year ago) link

i was thinking about that story i read recently, those horrible parents in SoCal who homeschooled their 13 kids. how one of them went to school and was bullied for her clothes, because she never took a bath, because of other reasons directly related to her being abused at home. i saw that too, lots of these awkward kids who were completely decent people but just didn't fit in, and took a ton of shit.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:04 (one year ago) link

everyone yelled at Calum on ILX and he left and wrote, like, five books. i'd like to think that we inspired him.

Calum was a shitposter who kept trying to insist to me privately that he was just joking, when he had the sense of humor of a gnat.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:04 (one year ago) link

ppl posting one word "otm" posts have been a blight on this site for as long as i've been here. if you're not adding anything with your post why are you posting?

― Mordy, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:13 AM (fifty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like to pretend i have friends

brimstead, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:08 (one year ago) link

one thing i don't get in IRL conversations is when people nod at each other. why nod your head in agreement if you're not adding anything to the conversation? there's no point

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:10 (one year ago) link

*nods*

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:12 (one year ago) link

a well-timed otm can imbue a discussion with a deep richness of meaning that would be missing otherwise

― had (crüt), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 11:52 AM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

the nice part of messageboards is the conversational aspect and sometimes that means typing dumb messages of agreement as a cue

I mean, if I don't get an 'otm' or response I'm going to assume I didn't make my point clearly enough and follow up my post with eight more posts :)

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:12 (one year ago) link

I don't wanna write a treatise in defence of bullying because bullying is bad

But not everything that happens that u didn't like is bullying either

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:14 (one year ago) link

*nods*

i guess a breeze might have moved your head? what's going on here

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:15 (one year ago) link

these meta-threads that prompt an in-depth discussion about ourselves have always been popular around here. frankly, it's nice to see the whole gang getting together for a chat.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:16 (one year ago) link

Ya

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

if you guys miss those women posters so much, you should personally invite them back! encourage them to return!

a couple of us (at least!) have specifically told JBR(L) how much we miss her here; i think she's just found other outlets

Also miss seeing gygax/steve shasta post here.

what if i told you that he does

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:18 (one year ago) link

moo vaughn unmasked

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link

Just realised I have always conflated Steve Shasta with Scott Seward

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link

i guess a breeze might have moved your head? what's going on here

― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:15 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

o shit i thought it might pass unnoticed, i've got to get the hell out of here

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link

Moo Vaughn is clearly another old poster, not Shasta

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:20 (one year ago) link

some old posters are too old for me

i wish some of you transferred your exacting standards for quality posts to Democratic politicians

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:21 (one year ago) link

The best way to read a long ILX thread is to ctrl-f for “otm” and then read all the posts that were on the money

President Keyes, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:21 (one year ago) link

Damn that's a hack

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

one thing i don't get in IRL conversations is when people nod at each other. why nod your head in agreement if you're not adding anything to the conversation? there's no point

obv you want different things out of ilx than i do and that's fine esp since you got what you wanted + there's no point crying over spilt milk. ilx pretty much died when nu-ilafl died. i stick around for a few posters/threads but i do ask myself more and more why i'm still here.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:24 (one year ago) link

we need to move on like moo vaughn has

bald butte (∞), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

I have done the obvious gotcha search in case anyone was thinking of doing it, just imagine i c+p'd the results here you know how that would look

scotti pruitti (wins), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

yes ilx definitely died when all the hilarious hitler threads stopped

brimstead, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:31 (one year ago) link

Wins is it a thread connection

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:34 (one year ago) link

Mordy you’re all over the boards with enthusiasm I don’t buy this ennui you’re evincing

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:45 (one year ago) link

there are threads i still post on (outernational, MENA, ILG) but tbh i was telling the truth above 99% of the things i think to post i censor and just post in ilx chat or some other venue. generally it's not worth it.

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:48 (one year ago) link

"ennui you're evincing" tho is a+

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:48 (one year ago) link

if you guys miss those women posters so much, you should personally invite them back! encourage them to return!
the alternative is to go back to facebook. where most of them are active.
lamenting their absence over and over is futile

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:31 AM (five hours ago)

if ppl have other fulfilling things going on in their lives, it could seem weird and controlly to ask them to come back to a social space they have left, for one's own entertainment

and yeah, in the case of JBL I have told her that her voice is missed here and she said "no it isn't."

the alternative is to go back to facebook.

back?

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:01 (one year ago) link

if you guys miss those women posters so much, you should personally invite them back! encourage them to return!

please do not do this

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:02 (one year ago) link

obv you want different things out of ilx than i do and that's fine esp since you got what you wanted

i do want different things, but i mean it when i say that i can understand why others would want other things. people approach messageboards in different ways which aren't necessarily stable over time. some people don't post on a thread unless they think they're particularly knowledgeable about the topic. they don't want to contribute unless they think they can provide unique insight, or to correct an obviously flawed line of reasoning that hasn't yet been questioned in the thread. i think that approach is not only commendable but also maybe the dominant strain on ilx.

i think i started out that way, too. but it started to feel weirdly disconnected and transactional to me. a person that only speaks when they're the expert is a useful person to have around, but they're usually not a friend. a friend often wades into topics they don't know anything about, and a good friend expresses vulnerability. when you post here for a while, you naturally start to get to know the people behind the posts and forming vague outlines of what they're like.

so i feel like ilx for some people is all about knowledge transfer (which again, is totally normal), but for others it's a more meta-thing that's also about people and personalities and even friendship. and for some other people it's a read only operation (lurkers), but i can understand why it's particularly irritating to the knowledge transfer only people. from their perspective it's like a group of annoying people in the hallway who keep butting into the classroom.

and many other approaches to posting beyond those, of course. for example i always admire those who can express things pithily, which is like a distant island to me

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:03 (one year ago) link

so i guess i feel like while i'm not opposed to other discourses, i came to ilx for the knowledge transactional culture and it feels like that in particular has receded making the value added less and less clear. (tbc it's no one's "fault" but i guess as certain posters have left, or scaled back their contributions, and what is left are fewer of the ppl whose knowledge i was hoping to extract or whatever.)

Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:06 (one year ago) link

to expand: if I have reasons for leaving a community then, at least for me, the last thing I would want is to be reminded of it and/or to be guilted to return

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:06 (one year ago) link

bring back mandee and roxy and rrrobyn, in a circle of pitchforks

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:11 (one year ago) link

KM otm. Although pedagogical patience wrt those who are un-/underschooled about the topic at hand has not historically been one of ILX's strong points. It's nice when it happens but I by no means expect it.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:20 (one year ago) link

everyone yelled at Calum on ILX and he left and wrote, like, five books. i'd like to think that we inspired him. i would also probably read his book on Cannibal Holocaust published by Columbia University Press.

I own the blu-ray of "The Burbs" that has a documentary by Calum on it!

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

I've talked to mandee lately, not sure what roxy is up to, rrrobyn still posts on occasion but is pretty busy in general

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:27 (one year ago) link

like i said, i could think of 100 reasons not to ask someone to return -- it's not difficult for me or anyone else to come up with reasons why inviting departed posters to return might be a bad idea
but i would be lying if i said that this conversation isn't making me want to take off myself
does anyone actually have a better idea or do you want to lament long lost posters indefinitely? they are all on facebook! if you don't want to meet them there or invite them back here, you don't get their shared thoughts i guess.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:31 (one year ago) link

but i would be lying if i said that this conversation isn't making me want to take off myself

Why?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:36 (one year ago) link

I don't get why you're so bothered by people just saying they miss certain posters.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:37 (one year ago) link

KM yes that’s where I come from, I guess I’m oldschool but I don’t feel comfortable sharing anything too personal with strangers online, esp on an archived forum. I would be happy to meet up with people irl at shows but I never lived around any.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:41 (one year ago) link

it's fine for things to end, or for people to end their interest in something. you're never really going to recreate a time or conversation.

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:41 (one year ago) link

lol I just keep thinking of shakey always being adamant he couldn't tell posters apart and had no interest in who anyone was outside of the board

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:42 (one year ago) link

if I have reasons for leaving a community then, at least for me, the last thing I would want is to be reminded of it and/or to be guilted to return

I agree this is the most considerate approach. Our desire for the return of a few dozen valued ex-ilxors is not a license to question their choice to stay away. We are easy to find, if they choose to return.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:42 (one year ago) link

as are they if you miss them so much

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:45 (one year ago) link

^ correct

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:47 (one year ago) link

calum is a lot of the reason i left first time round: other posters have been nastier (inexcusably much nastier) but no one before or since brought out dislike in me to the extent he did -- so much so that i started disliking myself in that state of mind

(lol i have left and returned too often to count)

mark s, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:53 (one year ago) link

lol I just keep thinking of shakey always being adamant he couldn't tell posters apart and had no interest in who anyone was outside of the board

― mh, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:42 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this but unironically, unless someone uses their real name I probably have no idea who they are

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:55 (one year ago) link

(semi-relatedly all this "KM" is throwing me for a loop)

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:56 (one year ago) link

xxp seeing you around brings me a little bit of joy every time you post on an ilm thread I'm following, mark! especially now that your book's so close to being in my hands

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:56 (one year ago) link

do you still have dreams of emma bunton and nicky wire in a banana suit, mark s.?

x-post

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:57 (one year ago) link

i honestly don't remember a lot of what calum did other than the goofy thread titles.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:58 (one year ago) link

fingers x-ed mh!

and thank you :)

STOP IT SCOTT, i try not to wish him ill, but my hackles just rise

mark s, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:59 (one year ago) link

they are all on facebook! if you don't want to meet them there

luv 2 be monetised by a company that breaks laws to sell elections to fascists who destroy the environment

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:04 (one year ago) link

none of us wanted to be here longer than Kevin Nealon was on SNL, but here we are

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:04 (one year ago) link

xp ^^^^ why ppl are leaving ilx in droves :drudgesiren:

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:04 (one year ago) link

(I hope you don't leave, LL!)

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:05 (one year ago) link

excellent impression of a finger-pointing US lib there, sic

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:05 (one year ago) link

sic is, surprisingly, on twitter with good cat content and jokes about your mother, though

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:07 (one year ago) link

should i post about my love for paddington bear movie on the website that has literally all my friends family and colleagues or on the website that is deserted but untouched by russian interests? i don't know what to do!

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:09 (one year ago) link

they are all on facebook! if you don't want to meet them there

luv 2 be monetised by a company that breaks laws to sell elections to fascists who destroy the environment

― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 3:04 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also you can share funny memes

Evan, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:11 (one year ago) link

i'll also admit that i have issues wrt people saying "i miss u" and then doing jack shit about it

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:15 (one year ago) link

aww, i miss jack shit. oh well

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:17 (one year ago) link

we can share funny memes here! hahahaha!!!

http://quotesnhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Top-50-Funniest-Memes-Collection-memes-famous.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:20 (one year ago) link

if ppl get a new job and move to a different city, and I miss seeing them, I don't send them a telegram telling them to move back

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:24 (one year ago) link

yes ilx definitely died when all the hilarious hitler threads stopped

― brimstead, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:31 AM (one hour ago)

very few of them were actually about hitler.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:24 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

scotti pruitti (wins), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:28 (one year ago) link

did markers quit or

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:28 (one year ago) link

The shifting gender balance is by far the most concerning thing, to my mind, all that said. (Would be v. keen to hear any technical ideas that might help w/that)

― stet, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:06 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

legitimately surprised this didn't become a thread (and i don't mean in a "hurrr" sense, i really think this would be valuable)

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:29 (one year ago) link

if ppl get a new job and move to a different city, and I miss seeing them, I don't send them a telegram telling them to move back
this is not what i was suggesting but you're right that it's a bad idea

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:30 (one year ago) link

none of us wanted to be here longer than Kevin Nealon was on SNL, but here we are

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:04 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

New board description, plz.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:30 (one year ago) link

Is the gender split really much lower now than over 10-15 years ago?

It may only seem like it if the number of regulars in general has steadily dropped over the last ten years. Shame either way though.

nashwan, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link

there definitely used to be more women participating in more threads. there was also a healthy flirtatiousness/sexual energy. all gone.

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:37 (one year ago) link

Karl otm

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link

our libidos started dying off when the median age got too high, thank god

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:42 (one year ago) link

nowadays we all just put on our sweatpants and watch the day go by

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:43 (one year ago) link

"healthy"

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:44 (one year ago) link

There were definitely a lot more prominent female posters 14/15 years ago than there are now. It's possible there are plenty of posters I just don't know are women these days, but it definitely seems lower, particularly on ILM.

This place felt particularly unfriendly to female posters around 2007-08 and several people told me they'd just had enough. I think they were as much put off by particular creeps as the general fractious atmosphere. It's a lot chiller now but I guess a lot of people just get to the point where it stops feeling like the community they originally posted to.

Obviously when someone makes a big ostentatious QUITTING ILX FOREVER move they usually come back, they're less likely to when they just slip away quietly. TBH I still think that work and family are the two big reasons people leave, although another big factor is that social media has allowed people to replicate various ILX social circles without actually using the boards.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:46 (one year ago) link

not to be an asshole but, some of what was considered "healthy" or acceptable before wouldn't fly in the #metoo era

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:46 (one year ago) link

I don’t mind that we don’t have ws anymore

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:47 (one year ago) link

yes i know that xp

sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:48 (one year ago) link

depends on your perspective, sug

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:48 (one year ago) link

there was also a healthy flirtatiousness/sexual energy. all gone.

Well, like Emily Dickinson said in that movie last year, when a friend marries, it's a death.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:49 (one year ago) link

completely to be an asshole but "a healthy flirtatiousness/sexual energy" would be instantly offputting

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:55 (one year ago) link

stoked to miss the sexual energy

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:56 (one year ago) link

i totally missed all the sexual energy! i must have been in the wrong room.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:59 (one year ago) link

there was also a healthy flirtatiousness/sexual energy.

Hi i am the guy in the picture with my cock in the hoover and yes i am also Tailpipe Man the guy in lingerie fucking his car. My name is Jeff Mitchell and i live in Rugby, Warwickshire, UK. I like fucking different objects and wearing womens underwear and i love showing the pictures off. My email is sissymanwh✧✧✧@hotm✧✧✧.c✧.u✧ if you have any comments or want more pictures to post around drop me a line. I want people to print off my pics with my details on them and leave them in public places for anyone to see.

― sissymanwhore, Saturday, May 12, 2012 9:52 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

had (crüt), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:00 (one year ago) link

So sad that ILX has lost its sweet sweet Grindr vibez.

No wait, what's the opposite of 'sad' again.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:02 (one year ago) link

i went through your 2017 metal list on Youtube and had a lot of fun doing it. it's exactly the kind of stuff i want to hear more of. cheers.

― scott seward
Massive xpost but thanks! I’ve always really enjoyed your writing btw.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:02 (one year ago) link

I agree that sounds bad. There’s so many places on the internet to do that; this is the place I go to talk about culture.

We do need more people though and less homogeneity though. Maybe I’ll leave a stack of fliers for this place somewhere — maybe in the lobby of Parsons School of Design across the street from my office — and see who bites...

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:05 (one year ago) link

“That” in my last post = the “healthy sexual energy.” I’m against it.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:06 (one year ago) link

what happened to sexydancer

bald butte (∞), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:07 (one year ago) link

if you are already printing fliers, i know how you could make a sissymanwhore's day

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:07 (one year ago) link

Best Buy wrote this on thread Metacritic's 15 Movies The Critics Got Wrong on board I Love Everything on Jun 24, 2010

Hi, everyone. Lots of these movies are available on Blu-Ray so be sure to check them out. Come in and ask for Jason. I'll also help you discover how to get the highest resolution on your new HDTV.

Best Buy wrote this on thread White musicians and "artistic" use of the N-word: A Discussion and Social History on board I Love Music on Jun 24, 2010

Hi everyone. Come in and pick up the new deluxe vinyl LP edition of Metallica's classic album "Load". If it's not in the store, I can special order it for you. Stop by and ask for Jason.

Best Buy 2 wrote this on thread Tarantino Poll on board I Love Everything on Jun 25, 2010

Come in and check out his BEST movie. Ask for Jason, I'll show you how to get the Blu-Ray DVD of "Inglourious Basterds" with Academy Award Winner Christoph Waltz for $29.99.

Best Buy 3 wrote this on thread Most despicable character on It's Always Sunny In Philly... on board I Love Everything on Jul 9, 2010

It's an amazing show, and you can pick up both seasons for only $34.99. My name's Jason and I can help you with all your television comedy questions.

Best Buy 3 wrote this on thread ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS on board I Love Music on Jul 9, 2010

Such a great album! And only $13.99, the same price as his recent album "The Crying Light." Come talk to me, Jason! I'll help you find other great alternative rock music.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:07 (one year ago) link

omg crut i forgot about that jeeezus

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:08 (one year ago) link

we've had some pretty stellar socks

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:08 (one year ago) link

I read the beginning of an old thread recently and there was a pretty healthy exchange from women of ilx past about how Paul Newman was really hot! Made me feel nostalgic. rip Paul Newman

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:08 (one year ago) link

who was that Big Jim dude or whatever was like a trucker or some shit?

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:09 (one year ago) link

x-post - Oh I'm sure I must have been a part of that if not the one who started it. I LOVE him.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:11 (one year ago) link

the days of yore when branwell perved on hstencil

mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:14 (one year ago) link

paul newman vs orville redenbacher for grocery label dream boat

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:15 (one year ago) link

the people who bullied you are not likely to suddenly become your best friends, and the people who stood idly by are not suddenly going to think you're the world's coolest kid.

― omar little, 2018年2月28日 星期三 上午 5:02 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some of my worst school bullies found me decades later on farcebook/at school reunions and were super excited to see me. every one of these times, i dropped what was left of my grudge immediately and just went with it. it was nice.

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:16 (one year ago) link

Bad move. Fuck them.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:17 (one year ago) link

I mean, forgiveness is good, but there is something nauseating about forced/faked intimacy.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:20 (one year ago) link

not really your experiences to judge so

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:22 (one year ago) link

I had a similar experience to AA with a bully who tormented me in grad/middle school and tbh it was lovely. She sent me the most heartfelt apology and I'd absolutely hang out with her if we were in the same city now. It didn't seem forced or fake at all. I think she just realized what a little shit she was as a kid and how much that might have hurt me and felt terrible.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:23 (one year ago) link

there was a kid who would follow me around at recess in second grade and like, try to trip me and horse around and I thought it was incredibly irritating and that he was bullying. then his mom met my mom and said that he thought I was cool and I was apparently his favorite person to hang out with at recess!

people generally don't try to bond in that way past like, third grade

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:25 (one year ago) link

isn't that the concept behind "negging" though? Adult men do this to women a lot.

sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:27 (one year ago) link

It didn't seem forced or fake at all. I think she just realized what a little shit she was as a kid and how much that might have hurt me and felt terrible.

― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), 2018年2月28日 星期三 上午 8:23 (forty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that was definitely the undercurrent of my experiences too. they didn’t say as much, but it was clear they really wanted to smooth over the past.

treeship: if we can’t acknowledge that people can genuinely change and improve then fuck everything.

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:28 (one year ago) link

and to their friends. negging is the only way some dudes appear to be able to show affection

xpost

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:29 (one year ago) link

Anyone I bullied at school I hated

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:30 (one year ago) link

jk I used to slap this kids lunch outtve his hands I was his best man

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:31 (one year ago) link

xxxp

some people can't

it's up to each person to decide whether they will give them the chance, there are a lot of factors to consider

it's good you guys had a positive experience after the bully matured

bald butte (∞), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:31 (one year ago) link

if you punch a girl on the arm during recess at elementary school it means you want to marry her

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:32 (one year ago) link

If they apologize it’s different. I was talking about when people act weirdly overly friendly/ingratiating when the last time you spoke to them years ago they were jerks.

treeship 2, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link

re self-blame for bullying: obv i can’t and wouldn't speak for others, but my horrible childhood was largely the product of having a combative and thoroughly antagonistic parent, the impact of which i didn't even realise until years after i left home (this probably also explains my first few years on ilx to an extent)

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:35 (one year ago) link

x-post The whole "boys are mean to you because they like you" thing that is told to girls is so awful and really fucked up and I really hope that's not as common a message now as it was when I was a kid.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

If they apologize it’s different. I was talking about when people act weirdly overly friendly/ingratiating when the last time you spoke to them years ago they were jerks.

― treeship 2, 2018年2月28日 星期三 上午 8:34 (forty-nine seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true but the apologies were very strongly implied, and tbh i don’t need them grovelling if they're simply better people now

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:37 (one year ago) link

those experiences make sense to me, years later everything changes and what not. i think at the time, in the middle of high school or whatever, it's extremely difficult for people to suddenly change course and get out from under the burden of being tormented and for others to view them differently (that second part is even more tough i believe.) which is why to me the idea that everyone around you treating you like shit is because of you (and not the blanket perception others have of you) is wrong.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

Feel like starting a poll:

Have I ever bullied u on ilx y/n

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:40 (one year ago) link

it's probably something you should address in private with the specific user

bald butte (∞), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:43 (one year ago) link

I asked the one guy who really got on my nerves in middle and high school -- it got bad at points -- about why he did that when we found ourselves at the tenth reunion (the only one I've ever attended). He freely admitted he was in the wrong and even said something about how he was apparently jealous of my alleged smarts (read: my endless capacity for trivia, really). Whatever it was, it ended well and I considered that put behind me. As it turned out, he and another classmate of ours hung out a lot at that reunion and then ended up getting married so hey, happy endings all around.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:45 (one year ago) link

I don't give em that much credit tbh

Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:46 (one year ago) link

x-post The whole "boys are mean to you because they like you" thing that is told to girls is so awful and really fucked up and I really hope that's not as common a message now as it was when I was a kid.

― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 3:36 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark
otm
it is one of my life's goals to stop this toxic idea in its tracks if i hear it. if it's dying out, i dance on its grave.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

Indeed. Will join you.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:52 (one year ago) link

i had to go talk to my 7 yr old daughter's teacher today because a boy shoved her and she says a bunch of girls in her class won't be her friend anymore :(
it's very strange and sad to go through this stuff again from the other side
i will say, unlike during the early 80s teachers actually seem to give a shit now

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:55 (one year ago) link

Aw :(. The fact that they give a shit is def an improvement though and I really hope things get better for her. I'm glad you went and talked to her teacher - that's really important, I think.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:57 (one year ago) link

yeah, just really sad for little buddy, the teacher said she would have the school counselor give a call too

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:58 (one year ago) link

being a kid can be such a bummer

best to little person

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:05 (one year ago) link

thx yall

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

Best indeed. And yeah, there seems to have been a generational shift from what I can tell in terms of active help. A good thing.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

I knew Calum had written a book but no idea he went to um, greater things (I probably wanted to put a blocker on myself knowing). Hilarious.

Does anyone whether they are well regarded at all?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:08 (one year ago) link

I kind of miss Henry K Miller a little bit although we follow each other on twitter (most of the reason I went there was to re-connect with old ilx ppl)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:10 (one year ago) link

at our school at least the teachers are all extremely on-point with that stuff. and ime it's extremely good to get to know as many of the other parents as possible. i think parents are more aware now too. bullying wasn't exactly tolerated back then but it was more of a "hey fight back!" or "ignore them!" thing, now it still happens but lots of places do seem to have that zero tolerance policy. our kid's school even actively addresses that freezing-out thing; one of our kid's friends got into trouble w/the school because she was engaging in that in her classroom with her friends.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:10 (one year ago) link

Bullying is BIG in teacher training programs. It's also a huge topic in professional development. And the consistent deployment of elementary age PBIS systems, as hokey as they are, has a loooong downstream effect.

But there's a generational gap in parents' understanding of then-bullying ('80s meanness/cruelty) and now-bullying (201xs concerted digital campains / social coordination / year-long harassment), and teachers/admin are MUCH more capable of dealing w/ the former than the latter.

rb (soda), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:33 (one year ago) link

nrq was a great poster but iirc left bcz he didn't like post-Dom niceness? not likely to be into the placid old fart era of now

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:34 (one year ago) link

i see enrique voted for Baby Driver and Ingrid Goes West in the S&S poll, so we'd still be crossing swords.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:40 (one year ago) link

Re bullies: if trump ever apologizes or acts like it was nothing DONT FALL FOR IT

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:55 (one year ago) link

Otherwise to apologize is mandatory and to forgive is permissible imo. Advising or witnessing kids being bullies is so awful.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:58 (one year ago) link

“bullied” but yikes

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:59 (one year ago) link

my ‘80s-era bullying went ignored by teachers who didn’t get it, the school counsellor who didn't care, and my parents who ignored my begging for help for a decade and then 20 years later said “why didn't you say something?”

the western world has certainly changed in this regard

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:59 (one year ago) link

i see enrique voted for /Baby Driver/ and /Ingrid Goes West/ in the S&S poll, so we'd still be crossing swords.

As it were.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:34 (one year ago) link

x-post The whole "boys are mean to you because they like you" thing that is told to girls is so awful and really fucked up and I really hope that's not as common a message now as it was when I was a kid.

― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 3:36 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh most definitely, I kind of threw that out there as a fucked-up idea that parents somehow propagated when I was a kid

going to check out that link soda mentioned about PBIS. I remember when I was in late elementary school they started a "conflict manager" program that was basically a peer intervention thing -- if two kids got into a verbal or not-serious physical altercation, they'd speak one-on-one to a peer, and have to answer a list of questions to try to get to the root of why there was a disagreement. anything that was obvious bullying would be something picked up in review by teachers, but it was a good no-fault way to get kids to think about why they were acting out. because when you're ten years old, sometimes you just act out or lack the understanding of what the other kid is like

we didn't have that when I reached middle school, which sucked because my school was kind of rough the first couple years and I felt like any attempt to talk to a teacher or counselor would be snitching

mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:37 (one year ago) link

very heartwarming stories; on the other hand, my story is that one of the girls who bullied me in middle school later asked me to help her get a photography internship (I did not help her get this internship)

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:01 (one year ago) link

Well done, fuck a heartwarming bully story tbh.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:38 (one year ago) link

My own experience with being bullied isn't that great or significant tbh, nonetheless it has led me to standpoint where I wouldn't piss on any of those arseholes if they were on fire.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:46 (one year ago) link

Same here for reals.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:56 (one year ago) link

The guy who bullied me in 7th grade murdered someone, I think he will be up for parole soon. I def won't help him get an internship.

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:12 (one year ago) link

i've met a couple of bullies post facto and it's weird how the bullying vibes are still THERE, big as life, even after you've both become adults. all those feelings, that power dynamic. it's just right there. (at least until it gets knocked down, but that takes some effort and good will)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:17 (one year ago) link

enbb and lechera are you talking about "boys" as in elementary/middle school boys? i feel mortified that i've never really thought about specific ways boys are mean to girls at this age - in my memory the two sexes stayed pretty isolated from each other until high school but i guess this is probably wrong

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:20 (one year ago) link

i have obviously not actually quit posting to ilx but i hardly look at it anymore and almost never post when i do. i stopped posting because i stopped having anything interesting to say (yeah, yeah) about the things most current posters seem to care a lot about currently and also because a lot of the posters who i enjoyed and felt some sort of community with also stopped posting much. certainly the ability to have like facebook or twitter dm groups or slack or w/e and snapchat to look at while killing time at work also made it easier to just kinda stop using ilx but i can imagine a version of ilx that i still was a regular of, maybe

it is funny to me that this was one of the top threads on sna because i was talking to someone a few nights ago about how much i missed ilx and how much ilx meant to me for a few years but that unlike a lot of stuff from that period of my life it sort of disappeared - me from it and it from me - without leaving a mark.

(° . ° )― (Lamp), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:20 (one year ago) link

i have worked in a lot of urban public schools and many of the middle schoolers are a lot more like high schoolers than back in my day

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:37 (one year ago) link

xp

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:37 (one year ago) link

I just found my childhood bully (elementary through middle school) on Facebook. sometime in high school, he'd fucked with the wrong person, got his ass beat, and the rumor was he got sent to military school.

now he is married with kids and is a born-Again. good for him I s'pose.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:42 (one year ago) link

xpost lamp

i don't think meaningfulness is mutually exclusive with continual engagement. something can mean the entire world to me and i'll just drop it tomorrow and not think about it again for years.

it's really good to see you btw

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:49 (one year ago) link

other than the brief month or two I was inexplicably throwing barbs at you I always liked yr posts too Lamp.

I mostly come here to read and learn stuff.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:51 (one year ago) link

I got my friend to post here: slothroprhymes

I beg him to post regularly again but he just doesn't have the ilx bug anymore I guess. Only shows up occasionally these days.

― Evan, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:59 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've thought about it. I don't post that much, don't really have a lot of connections to folks at ILX, get most of my music news elsewhere, and tbh was never the most apt messageboard guy anyway, even when I was on them every day. I like that ILX never became facebook, as far as likes/quantifiable feedback, but otoh sometimes it feels like Twitter. So, if I left, it would be because I was finally ready to say "I dgaf whether someone I don't know thinks my post is otm". I don't need to be at the table, or at least not this kind of table. Where's the table that can read your innermost thoughts and validate your innermost valuables without you having to be sociable about it? Oh yeah, it's the embittered solitary novelist table.

― Dominique, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 11:12 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sloth and dominique both need to post to the i love hoops message board again so we can make basketball observations together.

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:56 (one year ago) link

(everyone who likes hoops should go to i love hoops with world's best and nicest mod, m bison)

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:57 (one year ago) link

Xxxxpost neanderthal thats him, whole thing was so horrible and senseless

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:06 (one year ago) link

xps completely by coincidence, one of my high school bullies was put in a tertiary class with me well after we both left school. he tried bullying me again and the whole class was “wtf is wrong with that guy”

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:19 (one year ago) link

(everyone who likes hoops should go to i love hoops with world's best and nicest mod, m bison)

for some reason i feel awkward about posting there but i'm watching a lot of sixers games this year so i probably should

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:27 (one year ago) link

enbb and lechera are you talking about "boys" as in elementary/middle school boys? i feel mortified that i've never really thought about specific ways boys are mean to girls at this age - in my memory the two sexes stayed pretty isolated from each other until high school but i guess this is probably wrong
For me, middle school. I didn't know any boys until 8th grade and I will never forget the first day of class, or these new boys' coordinated effort to humiliate me that followed. I remember being told that they were doing this because they liked me, but if they liked me, they shouldn't have organized to humiliate me. This is in part why I hate the song "Amanda" by Boston. I'm way over it, but it's not like I forgot.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:36 (one year ago) link

mordy you should post there, I don't even know anything about basketball except that I enjoy watching the NBA and imo anyone else here who enjoys watching the NBA should post there

marcos, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:53 (one year ago) link

I remember being told that they were doing this because they liked me

More like they felt strongly that it was good to demonstrate they had a kind of power over you, hoping it would result in your submitting to them. The desired submission was no doubt connected to sexuality, but calling that muddle of cruel and confused desires "liking you" is completely perverse.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:54 (one year ago) link

for some reason i feel awkward about posting there but i'm watching a lot of sixers games this year so i probably should

― Mordy, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 8:27 PM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we all trust the process, yes, come join

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 03:13 (one year ago) link

Aimless OTM. The whole “he’s teasing you and being mean because he likes you” thing connects love with being hurt or feeling emotional pain and sends the message to girls that sometimes boys who like you will hurt you and is not OK at all.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 03:53 (one year ago) link

sad sigh and co-signing

mh, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 03:54 (one year ago) link

I can’t even begin to tell you how many times I was told this throughout elementary school and middle school. It’s a really destructive message to send to both girls AND boys.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 03:54 (one year ago) link

totally otm

kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 04:00 (one year ago) link

Yes, it's harmful for everyone.
Usually "they're doing it because they like you" is either prefaced or followed by "oh, you should be flattered" and there are few things (anything?) less flattering than being targeted for abuse. I'm sure they don't even remember it.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 04:47 (one year ago) link

i was told girls were mean to me because they liked me but i never believed that b/c i was an annoying brat

obv "girls are mean to you because they like you" is also extremely disempowering to girls/women

had (crüt), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 04:54 (one year ago) link

i think people say it like it's some kind of consolation, only it's not

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 04:56 (one year ago) link

I'm at a Superchunk show with a group including four ex-ilx0rs and this thread is being discussed

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:18 (one year ago) link

reasons include racism and mansplaining, names named

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:25 (one year ago) link

[placeholder for names]

mh, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:32 (one year ago) link

other please specify

racism, mansplaining

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:38 (one year ago) link

'mansplaining' is not a real thing

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:42 (one year ago) link

would you get off the internet pls

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:43 (one year ago) link

but i'm still using it

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:46 (one year ago) link

ya but u COULD stop

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:47 (one year ago) link

don't condescendingly explain free will and the internet to me while also being a particular gender please, thanks

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:48 (one year ago) link

rich g

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:50 (one year ago) link

sleepingbag wrote this on thread thread to get over a breakup on board I Love TMI on Feb 27, 2018

feel sure that you've found the person you'll spend the rest of your life with

this is a thing?

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sleepingbag wrote this on thread SADDO: THE MOVIE (aka READY PLAYER ONE) on board I Love Everything on Feb 20, 2018

goddammit this poster is literally just "HEY REMEMBER THIS STUFF?"

*meticulously bumps thread on 2000's internet pop culture forum for every single intellectual property mentioned in this movie*
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sleepingbag wrote this on thread the alt-right on board I Love Everything on Feb 19, 2018

saddo as an insult all the time lately, why. seems a little kick-someone-while-they're-down-y. fuck the happyos imo.
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sleepingbag wrote this on thread are you more like or unlike other people on board I Love Everything on Feb 17, 2018

ILX is it's one of the only enclaves of people on earth where I don't feel like I'm on the outside looking at people whose interactions feel forced and weird and beyond my ability to comprehend or replicate.

*makes list of 143 albums that are good*

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sleepingbag wrote this on thread who is Bob Lefsetz? on board I Love Music on Feb 16, 2018

Lefsetz is the same writer who saw Beyoncé perform at the 2013 Super Bowl and remarked that he wasn’t sure what to do afterwards, “join a gym or masturbate.

lol what a silly old man where does he get these ideas

https://j.gifs.com/JqKEXl.gif

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:56 (one year ago) link

yonce all on my mouth like liquor

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:57 (one year ago) link

sleepingbag, or “sb”if I may abbreviate and call to action in the same phrase.. step off

mh, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 06:01 (one year ago) link

Say hello to the 4 il-exors for me, sic.

omar little, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 06:11 (one year ago) link

sic kickin it with lorax

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 06:19 (one year ago) link

Tell them I said 'lads'

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 07:08 (one year ago) link

I don’t even know wtf is going on this this extremely messy thread but 40xps it would be rad if mordy posted on ilh

Clay, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 07:14 (one year ago) link

there is a veneer of civility that gives way to some pretty heinous behaviour at times

like if you are asking why ppl leave as if you havent seen it happen in real time then bless yr naivety i guess idk

ppl leave ilx bcz ppl are dicks

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 07:50 (one year ago) link

jaymc to thread plz

― Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Monday, February 26, 2018 12:39 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i don't know who anyone is anymore.

like lamp, i haven't entirely quit ilx, but i spend much less time here than i used to. for me, there were three factors:

1) career demands; less time to get wrapped up in trivial message-board conversations during the workday.

2) twitter became the default internet thing for me to obsessively check throughout the day. when i posted here more, i would refresh site new answers a lot, just hoping that there was a new post to read. on twitter, there is always a new post to read, and it's much easier to dip in and out of. there's also, of course, the potential for attention outside the bubble of ilx, which was a big part of the initial attraction.

3) chicago ilxors migrated to a different corner of the internet. this was kind of the final nail in the coffin for me. if i was reading nothing else on ilx, i would check into the chicago thread to commiserate with my irl pals. without that, ilx felt less essential.

having said that, i do miss the feeling of ~community~ that i got from this place for so long. i haven't really found a substitute for that. (weirdly, i feel like the size of the community was important: it was big enough to be dynamic and unpredictable, but small enough that i recognized most people and felt like we knew each other.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 07:50 (one year ago) link

I would like to invite roxy and JBR and tehresa and tokyo rosemary and some others back to more regular ILX posting but i also can understand that maybe they all left for reasons that also included wanting to break free from habitual posting on a website.

Wait hold on, I posted JBR's reasons upthread and it had nothing to do with this.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 08:34 (one year ago) link

I know five ppl that left because there wasn't enough racism and mansplaining tru story

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 09:40 (one year ago) link

I imagine I will get called out for abusing mod powers to blow up a dude's spot, but I feel like this is relevant to the thread. The other day, someone I believe to be former ilx poster 'and what' registered under a new screen name, flagged this post, and has been laying low since.

how's life, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 11:50 (one year ago) link

that's cute if so

however I don't think that should be something you reveal

imago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 11:56 (one year ago) link

Can mods tell the true identity of socks?

treeship 2, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:22 (one year ago) link

Not feeling so tough now do you

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:23 (one year ago) link

i would imagine it's possible to guess based on IP addresses or emails used to sign up but anybody using a proxy would probably not be obvious

https://cdn1.umg3.net/95/files/2018/01/BANNER.jpg (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:24 (one year ago) link

3) chicago ilxors migrated to a different corner of the internet.

ye olde DC ILX posse from a decade ago mostly just migrated. I hope everyone is doing well and drinking less.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:26 (one year ago) link

I haven’t run a sock in over 4 years

treeship 2, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:27 (one year ago) link

imago: because of a mods obligation to privacy regarding the fps or because I somehow scotched his triumphant return?

treesh: sometimes, not always. xps, mostly what noodle vague said.

how's life, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:28 (one year ago) link

Many xposts but lamp I was always a fan of your posts as well

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:49 (one year ago) link

I'd have no problem divulging my FPs (and often follow them up with a post directed at the FP-ee), but I guess I can understand people objecting to mods revealing the Ps they've F-ed.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:57 (one year ago) link

I also love Lamp.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:57 (one year ago) link

was always going to be hard out there for a lamp once the table stopped posting

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:05 (one year ago) link

A+

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:06 (one year ago) link

xps: Yeah, I normally keep quiet about who FP'd which post, but if a former poster re-regs in the midst of a heated discussion about where all the former posters from the good ol' days went and then flags his own offensive post from ten years ago...

how's life, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:11 (one year ago) link

I think it's cuet and am glad you shared it. If a person fp's himself and no-one's around to witness it has the p been f'ed etc

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:13 (one year ago) link

People have the right to F their own P in private and, if they so choose, they can at a later date release a video to the public of their auto-FP sesh.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:14 (one year ago) link

the fppening

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:20 (one year ago) link

lol

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:21 (one year ago) link

who says we don't have "healthy flirtatiousness/sexual energy"?

how's life, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:22 (one year ago) link

check your dms hot stuff

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:22 (one year ago) link

I’m not sure any part of this thread has reached heated status imo. Here is my capsule review.

I have a strong general animus to anything that reeks of nostalgia but there have been one or two digressions that were sort of edifying. Also y’all are some mopey fucks.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:24 (one year ago) link

Guilty as charged.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:26 (one year ago) link

Misspelt pommie

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:31 (one year ago) link

Alternative explanation: Mrs And What has entered the fray.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:37 (one year ago) link

Surely she knew what she was letting herself into when she took his and in marriage?

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:41 (one year ago) link

"idea: if you're a male and you want to increase the ratio of men-women on ilx but you don't want to invite women to come post maybe just stop posting yourself that'll help the ratio w/ a minimal amount of effort on yr part

― Mordy"

can't we just go transgender instead?

"Real talk here: I feel like Branwell and LJ have been the most shat upon posters in the 9 years I've been posting here.

― sarahell"

ahemahem*geir*

"lol I just keep thinking of shakey always being adamant he couldn't tell posters apart and had no interest in who anyone was outside of the board

― mh, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:42 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this but unironically, unless someone uses their real name I probably have no idea who they are

― algorithm is a dancer (katherine)"

yeah i've never met any of you folks and it took me years to start being able to tell you apart. raggett and whiney spent years blurred together in my head. similarly tylerw and imago. it's only now that the board is "dying" that i can recognize anybody here as individuals!

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:34 (one year ago) link

tylerw and imago?!?! In fact, anyone and imago?!?!

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:36 (one year ago) link

Ragget G. Nedgarten

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:38 (one year ago) link

Yeah, there are a few dozen posters who stand out as distinct entities in my mind but without the presence of, like, faces and voices and other distinguishing features beyond passages of text on a blank white screen, the identities of a lot of other people here are an unfortunate blur for me.

Lol at confusing Ned and Whiney, tho.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:40 (one year ago) link

For those still confused, Ned is the one without a strongly-stated position on bronies.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:40 (one year ago) link

I'm extremely proficient at distinguishing users. I hereby lay claim to jaymc's abjected crown

imago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:43 (one year ago) link

Let's not (or let's) just throw about who has or hasn't been the receipt of the most shit without any ref to their actual behaviour like

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link

Nothing unfortunate about that blur tbh. It highlights the hivemindy-ness of this place.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link

Many xps I know JBR's reasons for leaving but "maybe they all left for reasons that also included wanting to break free from habitual posting on a website."

omar little, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:50 (one year ago) link

re: the issue of "nicey-nice" ilx - like anyone who spent any amount of time on usenet, i've got a lot of experience slinging invective. i like it, in fact - in the same way that i like drinking. 2018 ilx appeals to me because it's encouraged me to moderate unhealthy personal habits.

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

I'm half asshole on my dad's side, so I always appreciate environments that discourage indulgence in that unfortunate heritage.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:08 (one year ago) link

trivial message-board conversations

o look at MISTER BIG SHOT here with his careeeeer and his OUTDATED SPREADSHEET

j., Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:10 (one year ago) link

Lol at confusing Ned and Whiney, tho.

Yeah. that...um. You sure wouldn't think that if you were saw us together in person. (And I have met him the once.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:12 (one year ago) link

similarly tylerw and imago
hmmmm????

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:09 (one year ago) link

I have a feeling rushomancy's name blurrings are based on nothing more than size and shape.

Evan, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:14 (one year ago) link

what's imago's official position on "doghouse"???

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:15 (one year ago) link

has imago has ever posted about dylan bootlegs or grateful dead shows from the 80s & 90s

marcos, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:17 (one year ago) link

Why open another door to hell why why why

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:19 (one year ago) link

lmao if we could convert imago to some fancy lad version of being a deadhead i think the universe would collapse

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:21 (one year ago) link

forcing imago to listen to 90s dead shows would probably be a good thread

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:23 (one year ago) link

sounds more like a gulag

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

Imago if you should choose to accept it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEDlxVmw3R8

omar little, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

xp to ums Deadheadicated follower of fashion

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:26 (one year ago) link

'box of rain' is really good there what do i win

imago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:26 (one year ago) link

a pono

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:26 (one year ago) link

oh 90s dead shows after jerry garcia died and became an ice cream hmm ok

imago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:27 (one year ago) link

i do feel like imago might dig some 68-69 out psych jams

marcos, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:28 (one year ago) link

Presumably the ice cream isn't indulgent enough wot

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:29 (one year ago) link

Some people put really weird demands in their will

Evan, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:29 (one year ago) link

Fucking hell at Bob Weir with the strap on his sunglasses.

how's life, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:31 (one year ago) link

I have a feeling rushomancy's name blurrings are based on nothing more than size and shape.

happens to me too. interestingly enough, i often get confused between rushomancy and "reggie (qualmsley)" particular when they used to post heavy in the politics thread

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:31 (one year ago) link

*particularly

and qualmsley, obviously, still heavily posts in the politics thread

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:32 (one year ago) link

i've been getting into early ozric tentacles. i think that's the end of the road right there...

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:33 (one year ago) link

i think it's cool that someone confused me with steve shasta on here because steve shasta was cool and wore sunglasses when he went surfing.

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:34 (one year ago) link

i heard an extremely cool ozric tentacles song dj'd by former snooker star steve davis last year and am willing to endorse scott's explorations based on that

kind of digging the dead

imago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

That was me Scott

NB imma call into your store sometime it's on the list

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

i remember who everyone is and everything they ever posted

mark s, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:38 (one year ago) link

who was brodie

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:39 (one year ago) link

OK so how've I been doing? Please rate me on a p4k scale of 0-10

Evan, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:40 (one year ago) link

a bellhop iirc xp

Mordy, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:40 (one year ago) link

my consultancy fee can be found in my bio

mark s, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:42 (one year ago) link

there's a sort of wild psychedelic freedom hidden in this music that i'm absolutely barmy for. like at their best they could be among the foremost exponents of the american wpf, just like the boredoms are for japanese, julian cope for english, faust for german etc idk what even is freedom

the wpf/corny bar-band line is narrow, though

imago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

tylerw of aerosmith, ljagger of the stones, it's an easy mistake to make imo

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

the louche, leering dandypants posters of ilx

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:43 (one year ago) link

if a band now emulated the sound of those early ozric tentacles tapes of shaggy krautrock/hawkwind stuff they would totally be beloved by the hep brooklyn weed crowd.

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:44 (one year ago) link

in imago.xls, Evan is and will always be 'the Swirlies guy', which actually puts you in very good stead with me tbh

imago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:46 (one year ago) link

Ship of Fools reminds me of some of my favourite tracks by The Band, though much longer and terrible.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:48 (one year ago) link

I don't mind being the Swirlies guy at all! Discovering them was an awakening for me.

Evan, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 16:51 (one year ago) link

Swirley to rise

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:18 (one year ago) link

i think a key turning point for me is the moment an old thread comes up on something you have an opinion on, you log in to post your opinion, and then you discover you posted the exact same opinion in that exact same thread three years ago. that's offputting.

another phenomena that's probably related is the way people talk hagiographically now about certain albums or movies that you can remember discussing live on here when they first came out. i dunno, it felt really weird to see the chromatics poll the other day. sorry!

, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:41 (one year ago) link

i grow old, i grow old, the albums of my youth are now being polled

, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:45 (one year ago) link

that's why u should rotate yr opinions every 2-3 years, prevents embarrassing dbl posts

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

rotate yr usernames

all the best have done it

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:54 (one year ago) link

i was old when ilx started so this is good not bad

mark s, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:55 (one year ago) link

sleepingbag used to be mattresslessness iirc

omar little, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

Is dayo basically saying he migrated to twitter because http://quotespics.com/wp-content/quote-images/i-get-older-they-stay-the-same-age.jpg

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:58 (one year ago) link

lol no omar

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

nomar was someone else bud

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:01 (one year ago) link

No he wasn't

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:03 (one year ago) link

sleepingbag is definitely not mattresslessnesss

marcos, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:05 (one year ago) link

except in the one sense

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:07 (one year ago) link

Oh I guess that was the joke

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:07 (one year ago) link

ok lol i am not a very quick one i admit

marcos, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:08 (one year ago) link

jeez guys

omar little, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:08 (one year ago) link

Tbf I kind of skipped over the context

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:09 (one year ago) link

itt people sleeping!

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:09 (one year ago) link

Get woke

scotti pruitti (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:10 (one year ago) link

wokebag

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:11 (one year ago) link

i've got a lot of experience slinging invective.

lesser Dennis Potter

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 18:45 (one year ago) link

why do people leave ILX for food?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:15 (one year ago) link

sick of pizza and tacos.

how's life, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:24 (one year ago) link

I have some food in my bag for you, not that edible food, the food you eat? No. I have some food for thought. It's called ILX.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:28 (one year ago) link

btw deems I elected not to say "lads" to a black woman who disliked having young English men repeatedly tell her that wearing blackface to a party was funny

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 20:22 (one year ago) link

I respect yr position

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 20:23 (one year ago) link

does lass carry the same undertone?

any lass specialists?

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

britisher 45 dealer in my store right now who once promoted an angelic upstarts show near sheffield. should ask him to join ILX? y/n

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:53 (one year ago) link

he lives at the mouth of the river esk currently.

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:54 (one year ago) link

yes!

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:00 (one year ago) link

The landlord of a local pub apparently roadied for the Upstarts amongst others (I assume Big Audio Dynamite since he's got loads of posters of them on the walls). He's got Peter & The Test Tube Babies, Charlie Harper of the UK Subs and John Otway to play gigs there in the last year or so. I don't actually go out drinking locally because I don't know anyone here but I could ask him to join ILX next time they have some ancient creaking punks play at his pub.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

i think a key turning point for me is the moment an old thread comes up on something you have an opinion on, you log in to post your opinion, and then you discover you posted the exact same opinion in that exact same thread three years ago. that's offputting.

As my opinions can often change or almost certainly refine on certain issues ilx has proved to be almost a diary that keeps a log on my thinking - mostly on certain films, music or books.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

surely the correct approach is to quote your entire earlier post and add "otm"

mh, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

Yeah but I want Mordy to hate me in other ways so.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:10 (one year ago) link

i gave that guy a sick deal on a super rare wigan casino floorfiller. i don't know what i was thinking. i like putting money in the bank. fuck a paypal.

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:30 (one year ago) link

what was it

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:57 (one year ago) link

lie dream of a casino soul

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 22:59 (one year ago) link

I just learned abt that from ian!

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:00 (one year ago) link

WHAT WHAT

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:00 (one year ago) link

that the song "Lie Dream Of A Casino Soul" by The Fall is actually about the dance scene at the Wigan!

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:00 (one year ago) link

Was it Turning My Heartbeat Up because that's all-time.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:01 (one year ago) link

as the potential buyers for punk memorabilia get older the market will peak and then decline as the desire to hang onto a piece of their youth fades. you may not have sold at the absolute peak, but I bet you did ok.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:02 (one year ago) link

whatever that record scott sold was, it was not a "punk" record by The Fall, but I can see how the last round of posts is confusing

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:03 (one year ago) link

yeah i was just makin' a quip! Scott should give the real answer for those who are enquiring!

Lockhorn. Lockhorn breed-uh (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:07 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjALToNE0bc

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:23 (one year ago) link

God that's lovely. Exactly my low-tempo slidey jam.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:25 (one year ago) link

Why do ppl leave ILM for ILE

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:26 (one year ago) link

why do birds suddenly appear

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:39 (one year ago) link

They get emails asking them to

Bully Corgan (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:56 (one year ago) link

Swallows head back to capistrano thanks to gmail accts

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:59 (one year ago) link

I remember always saying in infinity that ILE was so much better than ILM and people saying "they are the "same thing"". But whatever. I learned within the first year that I don't care about other people's musical opinions because they suck more than their other opinions usually. And when you were trying to sell music you have to just giggle and pretend they know better.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 March 2018 03:19 (one year ago) link

ymmv on ILM but the rolling metal threads helped reinvigorate me into the metal scene. I'd drifted from the scene a bit in the late 2000s to where when I when I dipped my toes back into the water around 2009, I was lost as to what was out there now. the rolling threads helped me re-connect with the things I liked.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 March 2018 03:25 (one year ago) link

but the Genesis threads infuriated me

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 March 2018 03:25 (one year ago) link

mh jumping out of the woodwork consistently when I deliver my half-joke theory (where's Ward, lost your login information?) is one of the reasons it doesn't ever go over to full joke.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 1 March 2018 12:21 (one year ago) link

pretty funny how that works considering we're logged in on the same computer

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:35 (one year ago) link

;)

Two Letter Username (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:35 (one year ago) link

as this is the thread we're all looking at, can a few of you please tell me to stop engaging with the Jordan Peterson Dude on the soccer forum I post to, kthx

imago, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:36 (one year ago) link

wait you and TWU are on the same computer? this is getting confusing

They each control one side of the keyboard iirc.

Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:37 (one year ago) link

most people wear two socks at a time, makes you think

Two Letter Username (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:38 (one year ago) link

*drops coffee*

Finn T Buoty (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:40 (one year ago) link

Not on the same foot though.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:43 (one year ago) link

I have one leg, ablist scum.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:43 (one year ago) link

we're definitely not most people

said the left hand to the right

Two Letter Username (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link

Oh you've got two arms at least.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:46 (one year ago) link

here's a picture of TWU and I
https://i.imgur.com/IOXwKKH.jpg

Two Letter Username (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:48 (one year ago) link

Such lol

Hunt3r, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

Actually, mh, could you return to the dripping-with-contempt bad advice to me mode? It's less upsetting to me than the jokes.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:52 (one year ago) link

sure, since you asked nicely

I've never felt anything near contempt, I just never understand the need to joke about conspiracy when people are mostly reacting to really rude posts

I mean, it's cool to build a consensus, though

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:55 (one year ago) link

See, I have to build it, what with me not having only the one ILX login.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:56 (one year ago) link

Ignore the Freudian typo. (

Three Word Username, Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:57 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:01 (one year ago) link

because mordy demurred

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 00:28 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 00:01 (one year ago) link

Good results imo

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 00:03 (one year ago) link

id like to thank u all this wdnt have been possible w/o each and every 1 of u

imago, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 00:04 (one year ago) link

It’s remarkable u left ilx 25 times

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 00:05 (one year ago) link

imago I will always tago 4 u :)

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 00:05 (one year ago) link

damn now I'm mad at myself for not thinking of tago imago as a dn

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 00:06 (one year ago) link

lol

Dan S, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 00:15 (one year ago) link

Nice

Whiney On The Moog (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 10:47 (one year ago) link

:D

Google Atheist (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 10:59 (one year ago) link

dissatisfaction with available stylesheets

lol at this tho

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 20:12 (one year ago) link

crimson hexagon was dissatisfied with available stylesheets but he made his own instead of leaving

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 21 March 2018 21:53 (one year ago) link

The elephant in the results of course is the people who are not-LJ who people left ILX over, of course.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 22 March 2018 00:41 (one year ago) link

once or twice it was for the best

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 March 2018 01:06 (one year ago) link

xpost I guess I have myself to blame as the penguins are gone from naus.css.

sueñx latinx (naus), Thursday, 22 March 2018 09:01 (one year ago) link

i am happy to wear the burden for all

i was sb'd so that ye may find salvation. and yet i am risen

imago, Thursday, 22 March 2018 09:04 (one year ago) link

i will never log off

― ciderpress, Saturday, February 24, 2018 6:47 PM (three weeks ago)

k3vin k., Thursday, 22 March 2018 12:39 (one year ago) link

afaict a midlife shift to hardline conservatism never prevented anyone from staying on ilx

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 22 March 2018 19:12 (one year ago) link

Oh man...gd times.

kiwi, Friday, 23 March 2018 13:05 (one year ago) link

oh snap!

scott seward, Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:42 (one year ago) link

You have posted 75,000 messages

scott seward, Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:43 (one year ago) link

not going anywhere. you will just have to deal. i'm just getting started!

scott seward, Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

#30thousandpicturesofrecords

scott seward, Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

those 75,000 posts paved the way to the next 75,000 posts

Karl Malone, Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:48 (one year ago) link

Shut the fuck up, my ass (I will never shut the fuck up)

frogbs, Thursday, 29 March 2018 18:49 (one year ago) link

Never stop, skot. I have rued your couple of leaves-of-absence from ilx.

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 29 March 2018 22:57 (one year ago) link

I'm never gonna leave ILX because it's the one website on the godforsaken internet that doesn't turn off my music when I'm browsing on my phone

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Sunday, 8 April 2018 17:17 (one year ago) link

^^^^(or my podcast)

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 9 April 2018 01:25 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

according to what I came across on another board, it's because ILXors are not nice people.

omar little, Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

surely we must find this board and go there to explain in detail why we're nice

(no)

mh, Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

I'm not doing that. Kiss my butt. In fact, everybody can kiss my butt. You can't see it but both of my middle fingers are up right now. It's hard to type but so worth it.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:24 (one year ago) link

i mean ilxors are twats, this is canon

imago, Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

but you're all MY twats <3

imago, Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

(Whoever said current ILXors are not nice clearly wasn't here a decade+ ago.)

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:26 (one year ago) link

there's a thread on not-very-active messageboard d1ssensus making fun of ilx posts

they don't seem to understand the difference between the music boards and others and think it's completely mind-boggling that people would post about grocery store items they enjoy

I mean, if you want to find actual mean people

mh, Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:37 (one year ago) link

old lunch otm

y'all are much nicer

done and dusted (Ross), Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:37 (one year ago) link

it's probably because we always have two fingers up our butts

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 May 2018 19:32 (one year ago) link

It really mellows one out, I find.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 May 2018 19:42 (one year ago) link

some ILXors can for sure be mean but the nice ones are great. people can get riled up, it can happen to anyone, but in general when things get tense i find you can take a break from the site for a day and let things simmer down.

when taken in context alongside other boards it's still way less toxic than a lot of places. you don't tend to see tons of trolls, huge meltdowns, or flame wars that shut down threads on other sites.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 May 2018 20:05 (one year ago) link

Sometimes I cannot tell if someone is trolling or just being super regional.

Yerac, Thursday, 3 May 2018 21:15 (one year ago) link

I don't think nastiness is much of a problem, or trolling. Posters can be unbearable in other ways.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 May 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

flood of disingenuous posting

brimstead, Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:12 (one year ago) link

humorless disingenuous posting

brimstead, Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:12 (one year ago) link

ILx is so much more relaxed these days.
10 years ago this place scared the fuck out of me.
whereas now i believe it to be the best online collective there is.

mark e, Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:21 (one year ago) link

i enjoy and learn a lot from the board and lord knows when I first joined I deserved 98% of the scorn I got but there was a period of time this place cut me deeply......i originally came back only for the metal board.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:25 (one year ago) link

After eight years of Usenet this place looked like a model of civilised discourse back in 2001.

Siegbran, Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:28 (one year ago) link

well hell compared to Usenet a punch feels like a kiss

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:30 (one year ago) link

I only regularly lurk on one other message board which seems to consist mostly of chill normies but reminds me semi-regularly of how awesome ILX is at correcting against oh I dunno saaaaay fairly overtly racist posts and posters (tbf, said board is pretty good at bringing the hammer down when these things do pop up).

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:31 (one year ago) link

the funny thing about Usenet is that I posted in the Slayer and Metallica Usenet boards in high school between 1995-1999, and there was a guy who went by M1k3 M0sh, who was a relatively respected scenester dude who occasionally went a bit OTT and got clowned for it.

Around 2014 or so, I befriended an older dude named M1ke at a metal show and...a year later, realized it was him. and he still goes by "M1ke M0sh" as a pseudonym.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 3 May 2018 22:32 (one year ago) link

I considered leaving ILX for good just being on internet/social media so much and having it occupy so much of my mental space was starting to make me feel like a saddo force-feeding himself depressing streams of useless information and that there were probably better ways to spend my time. Ultimately I came to the decision that for better or worse a significant part of people's lives are lived on-line and that with some conscientious moderation there's ways to stay connected without being sucked into a vortex of evil marketing and misinformation and bullshit designed to make me unhappy. but I've never been on Facebook, I don't have an instagram, I deactivated my twitter account and I'm just trying to better manage my time on the internet. Seems like at long as I'm at work at an office-job there's always going to be some value in a place as de-commercialized and generally all-encompassing as ILX, which is just a good resource for laffs and information. seems like there's many a much worse place on the 'net I could be spending my time.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:01 (one year ago) link

^^ rings true for me too

the late great, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:02 (one year ago) link

Shakey otm

done and dusted (Ross), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:03 (one year ago) link

I guess I was also questioning the value in general of posting a bunch of shit over decades. Like, looking back on all those posts, I was thinking who reads anything I have to say and why would I think it mattered? What was there ever worth getting worked up about, arguing with the same two or three dozen people for over a decade (often about the exact same topics)? But people missed me apparently, so that was some nice ego-validation.

and then I just waited until someone suitably evil died lol

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:04 (one year ago) link

best comeback since Elvis 68

WilliamC, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:09 (one year ago) link

Almost jacked it in over Option #1, recently. Not imago, I hasten to add.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:10 (one year ago) link

xxp otm again!

the late great, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:10 (one year ago) link

You waited until a suitably evil ilxor died to take his handle? That's harsh man...

Siegbran, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:14 (one year ago) link

Like, looking back on all those posts, I was thinking who reads anything I have to say and why would I think it mattered?

Arguing with friends in the pub helps you develop your ideas, learn new things and change your own mind and those of others. There are more people here than want to talk about music, politics and comic books in any of our IRL lives.

Also, grocery store item recommendations.

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:20 (one year ago) link

the older I get the less I think anyone really learns anything significant or has their minds changed tbh. Everyone just seems to get stupider and more set in their ways as they get older (not saying I'm exempt from this phenomenon, to be clear)

but yes I have learned a lot about music and books and comics from this board, so that's gratifying.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:22 (one year ago) link

Shakey, I want you here when Poppy Bush dies.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:23 (one year ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:24 (one year ago) link

I already bought a good bottle of wine, ready to uncork

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:27 (one year ago) link

Agree w shakey, save that I can never post from work and so my time here is limited to the few evenings or bus rides in between doing chores or tending to family. I’m finding that at this point in my career a “regular” workweek is about sixty hours, and I’m just out of moments to rank Argento films or bicker with a stranger about bicycle etiquette.

I love my job, but I do have moments of lifestyle envy for people who work 36 hours and can browse the Internet or post here while they’re doing it. I want to have more of this time, because DO I value the pub convo aspect... but I can’t imagine it happening again.

rb (soda), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:27 (one year ago) link

sic otm, that entire sentiment is uplifting

mh, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:29 (one year ago) link

I don't have a companion, children, or feelings. Y'all are stuck with me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:29 (one year ago) link

same

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:31 (one year ago) link

lol

Dan S, Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:37 (one year ago) link

looking back on all those posts, I was thinking who reads anything I have to say and why would I think it mattered?

One thing that's made it easy for me to stick around for so long is I figured out pretty quickly that nothing I said mattered.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:42 (one year ago) link

Moodles just beat me to it. I don't ask myself questions any more about if anything I say on here (or in the pub, for that matter), matters at all. It's a great relief tbh.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 May 2018 23:44 (one year ago) link

Conversely, everything I post is of enormous consequence and tbh it is a strain

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 4 May 2018 00:01 (one year ago) link

Been thinking about leaving ILX and registering an account with city-data.com.

https://i.imgur.com/5NGlsp6.png

If you see me on the other side, just remember that you only know me up to the point where I became not me.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2018 00:14 (one year ago) link

A lot of what shakeup said rings true for me as well


Still, I’m headed to the bodybuilding forums

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 May 2018 00:18 (one year ago) link

little known migo

thots and players (rip van wanko), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:23 (one year ago) link

Man... I bet a lot of my friends think I have failed in life.

ian, Friday, 4 May 2018 00:25 (one year ago) link

shakey otm, pretty much what my break revealed to me too

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:28 (one year ago) link

in unrelated news i deactivated facebook today

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:28 (one year ago) link

nice!

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 May 2018 00:31 (one year ago) link

So all my guys from the mra/mgtow recruitment are leaving us for the sw0le lyfe?

F# A# (∞), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:31 (one year ago) link

Brad - I’m glad you’re back

done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:34 (one year ago) link

Brad and Οὖτις both

Dan S, Friday, 4 May 2018 00:46 (one year ago) link

really wish Lex would come back

Dan S, Friday, 4 May 2018 00:53 (one year ago) link

brad

who will like my youtube full album links

j., Friday, 4 May 2018 00:56 (one year ago) link

xp Lex and Ronan. But I'm pretty sure we lost both for good. Good on them tbh.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 4 May 2018 00:59 (one year ago) link

Shakey and sic OTM. ILX is the only online haunt where I ever write anything at all. I check FB like maybe every couple weeks to check if anyone has posted anything at me (usually not). With respect to how internetting impacts my well being, the combo of a) purging social media from my life and b) getting to a place where I post here without really concerning myself with what it's all about or whether my presence is impactful or particularly well-regarded has been a boon. I get some solid laffs and chew the fat with solid folks and hone my questionable writing chops on the reg. I don't need or expect it to be anything more than that.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 May 2018 01:38 (one year ago) link

I've generally disliked most online interactions apart from a few UseNet/NNTP groups 25-10 years ago, and this place. I think it's the care that people put into their posts and their interaction - there are a lot of genuinely funny and very smart people here, and there's a feeling that what we write will linger (a key feature of ILX of course) and so everybody takes a little extra care, and people who don't get nudged or bounced. I've recently been through the breakdown of my 20 year marriage and that makes my face to face interactions much more complicated, so ILX has been a place where I can talk about interesting stuff with interesting people without having to wade through trolls and shitheads, or distant family members and acquaintances friending you and forcing you to decide what level of sharing you want with them, blah blah blah, anyway I love you all (sobs, is helped from the podium)

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 4 May 2018 02:35 (one year ago) link

in unrelated news i deactivated facebook today

― flamenco drop (BradNelson)

congrats

i hang around here because y'all are big music nerds and i'm a big music nerd. it helps that most of you aren't assholes. i sometimes wish we could talk more about music though. there are so many great records that i listen to but don't have time to post about it! and i know a lot of y'all are the same way! but what is there to say about "nine suns, one morning" by the silence other than that it rules?

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 4 May 2018 02:56 (one year ago) link

brad: leaving facebook means you have to bump the fallout boy thread at least once a week. PROMISE ME

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 May 2018 05:46 (one year ago) link

20 years ago I was scared of this place and people called me damaged goods for liking tori. Now it’s chill

done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 05:48 (one year ago) link

Going through years of cd booklets..

That’s me.

done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 05:49 (one year ago) link

That post saying I could never be respected as a tori fan tho

done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 05:52 (one year ago) link

Not twenty but you get the point. Place is much chiller

done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 05:58 (one year ago) link

ILX is not 20 just yet

Mark G, Friday, 4 May 2018 06:19 (one year ago) link

the older I get the less I think anyone really learns anything significant or has their minds changed tbh. Everyone just seems to get stupider and more set in their ways

i learn every day, and change my mind every week. i have learned things from you and you have changed my mind :)

flopson, Friday, 4 May 2018 09:23 (one year ago) link

20 years ago I was scared of this place and people called me damaged goods for liking tori. Now it’s chill

― done and dusted (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 06:48 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's amazing how these slights can stick with you. The poster who said that left ilx almost immediately afterwards and probably has no memory of ever being here.

a simian who gave no fucks (onimo), Friday, 4 May 2018 09:51 (one year ago) link

The IDGAF-ness of getting older dovetails nicely with the increasing chillness of ILX (which is probably a function of ILXors getting older). Like the insecurities of youth would have prevented me from admitting as much, but goddamn it I love me some Basia. Eat it, hipsters.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 May 2018 10:29 (one year ago) link

the chillness of ilx as with the universe is due to a decrease of activity of any note and the death of any superstars

.b derf (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2018 10:35 (one year ago) link

save us deems, you’re our only hope

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 4 May 2018 10:38 (one year ago) link

rip

.b derf (darraghmac), Friday, 4 May 2018 10:51 (one year ago) link

YSI?

Mark G, Friday, 4 May 2018 11:16 (one year ago) link

entropic heat death ftw

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 4 May 2018 11:36 (one year ago) link

I'm worried Brad left Facebook because of what I said about the Chili Peppers :(

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2018 12:19 (one year ago) link

hey Ross, I was going from mostly lurking to actually posting back then and you creating that thread was something that helped pull me out of the woodwork!

no one blame Ross for my posts, please

mh, Friday, 4 May 2018 12:43 (one year ago) link

It's okay, Ross. It's not your fault.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 May 2018 12:49 (one year ago) link

lots of great posts in here! <3s all around. it's almost like this is a real community =)

Old Lunch otm on "The IDGAF-ness of getting older"

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 4 May 2018 12:55 (one year ago) link

I'm worried Brad left Facebook because of what I said about the Chili Peppers :(

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 4, 2018 5:19 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol. also it’s just temporary, facebook really try to discourage you from permanently deactivating. but my ilx/general internet experience feels way calmer already

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 4 May 2018 13:31 (one year ago) link

You’re gonna leave us hanging with that dope screenshot countdown

type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Friday, 4 May 2018 13:34 (one year ago) link

Got a wife, family and barely a job, so free to post as much as I want/need (clearly). But I like the community, and it's gotten to the point that my wife occasionally asks me to hit up ILX to get answers/advice/recommendations, etc. I think it helped that when we went to Montreal and Toronto last year all the guidance I got from ILX panned out, which sort of won her secondhand trust. Why it took her almost 20 years to recognize I was posting here so much, who knows.

Anyway, yeah, there are barely any other websites I hang around, let alone post on. ILX is where it's at, quirks and characters and all. Sometimes feels like a weird family of autodidacts.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 May 2018 13:46 (one year ago) link

I’m damaged goods it’s cool y’all

Tosser full of secrets (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 15:33 (one year ago) link

Mh what do you mean bud? Re woodwork

Tosser full of secrets (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

I don’t think we’re all set in our ways. My ideal would be we all share our disparate passions and there’s no right or wrong. Show me yer passion and I’ll cheers ya

Tosser full of secrets (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 15:39 (one year ago) link

I’m damaged goods it’s cool y’all

― Tosser full of secrets (Ross), Friday, May 4, 2018 10:33 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

New borad description plz.

Love Theme From Oh God! You Devil (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 May 2018 15:41 (one year ago) link

I was lurking and was thinking, hey, these people really know how to talk about music, no way can I weigh in

and someone just being honest and reflective like that, hey.. I can post too!

mh, Friday, 4 May 2018 16:11 (one year ago) link

Insert poster who loves school yard BS

Main man (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 16:13 (one year ago) link

in case it's not clear I was the first one to respond to your thread

mh, Friday, 4 May 2018 16:14 (one year ago) link

Mh your response was totally cool

Main man (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 16:15 (one year ago) link

ILX is not 20 just yet

holy shit I've been posting here longer since the 10th anniversary FAP than I had been before it. I rescind everything above, I've wasted my life

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Friday, 4 May 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

I'm fine with the slow entropic heat death of ilx. I just put on a sweater.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 4 May 2018 18:37 (one year ago) link

Cheers to sic still goin strong in the decomposition dept

That’s All Folks... (Ross), Friday, 4 May 2018 18:47 (one year ago) link

Sometimes feels like a weird family of autodidacts.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, May 4, 2018 6:46 AM

my sense too

Dan S, Friday, 4 May 2018 23:27 (one year ago) link

Why it took her almost 20 years to recognize I was posting here so much

sign of a healthy marriage, mayne

j., Friday, 4 May 2018 23:45 (one year ago) link

weird autodidacts may not make the best doctors or lawyers, but they do make for interesting conversation on a wide range of topics

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 5 May 2018 00:44 (one year ago) link

Word

Nashville #9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 5 May 2018 01:52 (one year ago) link

the older I get the less I think anyone really learns anything significant or has their minds changed tbh.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, May 3, 2018 7:22 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess it depends on the guise. Politically speaking, I can see someone evolving. From a music or film perspective, I'm not quite so sure.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 6 May 2018 21:15 (one year ago) link

That post saying I could never be respected as a tori fan tho

Ha, tbf, your own post was expressing shame and a fear of taint from still having CDs like hers and most of the responses were defending your own collection to you!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 May 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

Srsly, I admire you for even having the balls to link to one of your posts from that long ago. Mine make me cringe more than your Feist CDs probably did for you.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 6 May 2018 21:55 (one year ago) link

I definitely cringe at that thread

Dyslexicon (Ross), Sunday, 6 May 2018 22:04 (one year ago) link

I always learn something new from you assholes.
I’ve changed a lot since I started posting here.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:08 (one year ago) link

is it maybe that a lot of the ppl you used to react to in a certain way have left, tho

.b derf (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:10 (one year ago) link

:o

mh, Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:23 (one year ago) link

not meant in a bad way!

.b derf (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:29 (one year ago) link

Even if I stopped posting, which I get the feeling would make a lot of people happy,
I’d still lurk on ilm. So many discoveries and favorites discovered in the past 15 years or so

calstars, Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:55 (one year ago) link

why cant i quit u ilx

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:56 (one year ago) link

I can’t...quit you...babe

calstars, Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:58 (one year ago) link

Xxp

You’re one of my favourite posters

Never stop posting calchiefo

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:58 (one year ago) link

Oh word ? Well thanks

calstars, Monday, 7 May 2018 00:16 (one year ago) link

yea man I always dig your posts

marcos, Monday, 7 May 2018 00:34 (one year ago) link

i like your style calstars

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 7 May 2018 00:38 (one year ago) link

woop woop!
Thanks bros and right back at yous ✌🏻

calstars, Monday, 7 May 2018 00:45 (one year ago) link

ya man

F# A# (∞), Monday, 7 May 2018 00:46 (one year ago) link

i mainly gave up ilx for twitter. this is a a far better place for talking about music, but in terms of all the content-feed and range-of-opinion stuff i used to get from ilx, twitter lets me curate more of the stuff i want, and get less of the same old boring things i disagree with that are expressed at boring length. ilx refights the same battles over and over, each time more rotely than the last -- with twitter or something there's always a new mix at least.

carles danger mous (s.clover), Monday, 7 May 2018 01:16 (one year ago) link

“less of the same old boring things i disagree with”
God forbid

calstars, Monday, 7 May 2018 01:22 (one year ago) link

God forbid

― calstars, Sunday, May 6, 2018 9:22 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for reminding me of the high quality of discourse i'm missing out on

carles danger mous (s.clover), Monday, 7 May 2018 02:06 (one year ago) link

Can't imagine preferring the cesspool of bots and shitty memes and constant outrage of twitter but ymmv i guess

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 May 2018 02:11 (one year ago) link

God forbid

― calstars, Sunday, May 6, 2018 9:22 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for reminding me of the high quality of discourse i'm missing out on


Anytime brah

calstars, Monday, 7 May 2018 02:13 (one year ago) link

ilx seriously has not really changed in over a decade (besides lower volume posting and more ennui) so i get what sterling is saying.

Yerac, Monday, 7 May 2018 02:15 (one year ago) link

ilx refights the same battles over and over, each time more rotely than the last

... how long have you been on twitter

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 7 May 2018 02:16 (one year ago) link

I can’t...quit you...babe

baaeee baeee baeee baeee baeee baee
iwwwu wannna leeeev youuuu

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 7 May 2018 12:55 (one year ago) link

I guess it depends on the guise. Politically speaking, I can see someone evolving. From a music or film perspective, I'm not quite so sure.

I've seen people change regarding all three of those, but music and movies seem way more common in my social circle, almost everyone I know has changed in that regard from their early 20's to their early 30's. I only have one example of a friend who changed politically (from libertarian to socialist).

I think what's more difficult to change than taste or even political allegiance tho is the premises you start from in making your arguments, the roles you attribute to these things in your life.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 7 May 2018 13:04 (one year ago) link

there are good posts occasionally but the volume and proportion of abysmally dull posts is whelming. every lameass exchange between cranky Dads like the one quoted below brings me one straw closer to throwing my laptop into the ocean

Love the piece but the elephant in the room is that even by his own standards, Kanye is no genius and has never been.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, May 4, 2018 1:56 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's not even top 5 rap producers material imo

― Οὖτις, Friday, May 4, 2018 1:58 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe top 5 jackasses?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, May 4, 2018 1:59 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

flopson, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:17 (one year ago) link

Ok dad

Οὖτις, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:18 (one year ago) link

hold up what specs on that laptop ill make u an offer

.b derf (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2018 19:18 (one year ago) link

just pick it up from your side of the ocean dude

valorous wokelord (silby), Monday, 7 May 2018 19:19 (one year ago) link

maybe a kanye thread is the wrong one to read

marcos, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:19 (one year ago) link

btw i am a cranky dad no shame there really

marcos, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:19 (one year ago) link

dull too

marcos, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:20 (one year ago) link

just checking waterproof specs obv ffs

.b derf (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2018 19:20 (one year ago) link

i'm dull, not cranky... and SINGLE ;-)

flopson, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:22 (one year ago) link

i have been a bit disappointed in the tenor of ILM lately

seems like it's less and less acceptable to call a dud a dud or to suggest a destroy ... it's all rabid fandom, seems like

i get how "why you like something" is generally more interesting than "why you dislike something"

but there should still be a place for disliking things

the late great, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:25 (one year ago) link

the older I get the less I think anyone really learns anything significant or has their minds changed tbh. Everyone just seems to get stupider and more set in their ways as they get older (not saying I'm exempt from this phenomenon, to be clear)

You should've been clearer by taking the brackets off this as it totally applies to you.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:27 (one year ago) link

those are parantheses

brimstead, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:29 (one year ago) link

shots fired!

the late great, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:29 (one year ago) link

I think dull singles are the problem

calstars, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:31 (one year ago) link

i mean case in point this would have been a really good clusterfuck once upon a time now its just a bit of snark and some rueful admissions

.b derf (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2018 19:40 (one year ago) link

there's a bit of US punctuation chauvinism there, maybe we can leverage something out of that

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 May 2018 19:42 (one year ago) link

hold my Br.

turf bongs (darraghmac), Monday, 7 May 2018 19:51 (one year ago) link

hold yr bromine?

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 7 May 2018 19:56 (one year ago) link

I will 100% cop to being a dull, cranky dad. All you youngsters can suck it. Get off my lawn!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 7 May 2018 21:10 (one year ago) link

bro, mine

F# A# (∞), Monday, 7 May 2018 21:25 (one year ago) link

Attn, cranky dads: dull singles in your area.

Tapes 'n Tapes of Osho (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 06:44 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

today has been apocalyptically bad & i h8 u all

imago, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

Send me a photo and I'll see if you deserve a kiss.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:24 (one year ago) link

landfill

shitting

the smiths thread being active and actually talking about the smiths not just dunking on morrisey

fucks sake

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:27 (one year ago) link

ILX is generally the only saving grace in the midst of my perpetually-apocalyptic bad workdays.

Still: up yours, I'm leaving forever.

I cop this squat in the name of slack (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:28 (one year ago) link

all threads eventually devolve into men talking about themselves

or steely dan

not sure which is worse

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:29 (one year ago) link

all threads eventually devolve into men talking about themselves
true

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:31 (one year ago) link

Every thread needs lads x 1000

don piano (Ross), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:31 (one year ago) link

hey did i ever tell you guys about that time i found morrissey shitting in a landfill

i've been resisting the urge to graphically describe what i do while listening to music for the last 2 hours

R.A. Lafferty, lover of the Russian queen (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 19:36 (one year ago) link

imago is part of why i stay

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:27 (one year ago) link

all threads eventually devolve into men talking about themselves

or steely dan

not sure which is worse

― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:29 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actual lol

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:41 (one year ago) link

Seconded.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:43 (one year ago) link

We heard you’re leaving, that’s ok

droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:09 (one year ago) link

it's been a bad day. like many days recently tbh. smiths thread is a thing to behold, but what vexes me more is the ongoin j*rdan p*terson/alt-right/m4sculinity threads constantly being bumped. white men talking about white men indeed. I had hoped ilx would steer clear of at least the fringes of that nonsense. instead it seems ilx is just as mundane, and gives in as easily, trite and predictable as everything else. rip iirc.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:20 (one year ago) link

Disgusting savages ITT

calstars, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:21 (one year ago) link

every post in Jordan P is just 'this guy is an idiot, qed' and yet it's parked at the top of sna for over a week now?

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:42 (one year ago) link

hi there are non white people here too and the ilx takes on these issues is actual useful for us so f u tryna police how people deal and talk about racism and nazis being celebrated, magnified and popularized in the goddamn nytimes in 2018.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:49 (one year ago) link

Also I made some good posts in that masculinity thread yesterday

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:50 (one year ago) link

I find it very easy to ignore the threads that I don't like/get tired of. Or is it that people wish others would post more on different threads?

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:52 (one year ago) link

I don’t understand what’s so fucked about this particular day on ilx
I must be reading the wrong threads
(Not following the jordan fuckhead one anymore for instance)

cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:52 (one year ago) link

concur that silby did make some very good posts until the thread had to take a bathroom break.

Yerac, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:53 (one year ago) link

every post in Jordan P is just 'this guy is an idiot, qed' and yet it's parked at the top of sna for over a week now?

― rip van wanko, Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:42 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, exactly this. it's so bourgeois.

no idea who you are aiming your arrows at chaki, incomprehensible post.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:54 (one year ago) link

On this day in ILX history...

calstars, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 23:57 (one year ago) link

I don’t understand what’s so fucked about this particular day on ilx

It's mostly ILM, usually is.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:02 (one year ago) link

threads i never go near should always be as helpfully titled as:

Democratic (Party) Direction

scott seward, Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:07 (one year ago) link

i'm saying: when the mainstream news, amazon best seller lists and ppl irl are telling you "this man that is famous for shouting down trans kids should be celebrated," having a place like ilx to scream HE'S A FUCKING IDIOT into is actually a good and healthy thing for many and f u for trying to get down on ppl for that

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:32 (one year ago) link

idk i do kind of think there's a point after which screaming too long about someone starts to inadvertently make a place for that person's ideas, like at some point it's good to just put down the garbage person and move on. that point is different for different people though so i don't think it makes any sense to take lbi's high and mighty tone about it.

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:43 (one year ago) link

idk i do kind of think there's a point after which screaming too long about someone starts to inadvertently make a place for that person's ideas, like at some point it's good to just put down the garbage person and move on.

― you bet, nancy (map)

i reserve that approach for topics such as the band "yes"

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 May 2018 00:59 (one year ago) link

Aw, does this shitshow need a widdle bit of Hamburger vs Pizza to make it feel better?

DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 24 May 2018 01:03 (one year ago) link

My “problem” is the narrowing of my own interests to basically one or two things, and everything else can kind of bugger off ?

calstars, Thursday, 24 May 2018 02:17 (one year ago) link

today's smiths thread seems to be just the nnnnth iteration of 'if [thing that didn't happen] happened, then [something else that didn't happen] would be totally true!'

i mean i see how people might be disgruntled with it but hey that's ilm and always has been

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 May 2018 02:50 (one year ago) link

but are they classic or dud

valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 24 May 2018 03:31 (one year ago) link

i'm saying: when the mainstream news, amazon best seller lists and ppl irl are telling you "this man that is famous for shouting down trans kids should be celebrated," having a place like ilx to scream HE'S A FUCKING IDIOT into is actually a good and healthy thing for many and f u for trying to get down on ppl for that


Today is the day that this poster and I are in such powerful agreement that any water under any bridges became vapor, was elevated, and rained down on I dunno probably Europe.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 May 2018 03:48 (one year ago) link

The again I said some mean ass shit to you back when, and it takes two to monsoon

El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 May 2018 03:50 (one year ago) link

today has been apocalyptically bad & i h8 u all

b-b-b-but how can that be? I wasn't EVEN HERE ALL DAY!

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 24 May 2018 03:53 (one year ago) link

i apologize tom for the old days i think you're great and try to stay out your way <3

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 24 May 2018 05:06 (one year ago) link

today has been apocalyptically bad & i h8 u all

I blame a straight-up media contagion -- stuff like this lines up like lines on a magnetic field. carry on...

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 May 2018 05:56 (one year ago) link

Father Fintan Stack!!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

HI

found this

I mostly left because I started having very demanding jobs where internet browsing time is not readily available to me, and because I hate looking at this on my phone.

homosexual II, Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

hi!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:47 (one year ago) link

also tbh i just scanned the front page and I don't feel like I want to contribute to any of the subjects currently active

I am really only good at being silly and in-jokey

homosexual II, Thursday, 7 June 2018 22:47 (one year ago) link

when i first started reading ilx you were one of my favourite posters and i wish you would come back for good

ikwym about the active subjects but there are so many threads that could be revived

vanjie wail (qiqing), Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:04 (one year ago) link

cosine!! hi m!

you should get the app for your phone it is very good

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:38 (one year ago) link

You are a good poster and I'm glad to see you back. Particularly since there are so few lady posters around these days.

Also as my perpetually-ridiculous presence goes to show, there's room for silly in-jokiness in even the most serious threads. And everybody loves it. A lot.

This Bobo Isn't Going to Honk Itself (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 June 2018 00:47 (one year ago) link

MISSED U HOMO. COME TO GIRLS THREAD PLS.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 8 June 2018 01:50 (one year ago) link

HO

MOO

TWOOOOOOO

we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Friday, 8 June 2018 02:05 (one year ago) link

omg homo II hi <3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 June 2018 02:10 (one year ago) link

I am really only good at being silly and in-jokey

Implying things here have thoroughly changed in the interim.

pomenitul, Friday, 8 June 2018 02:12 (one year ago) link

well it's more that I dont read enough to be able to make a good quality in joke!!

where is the girls thread again????

homosexual II, Friday, 8 June 2018 04:40 (one year ago) link

Get zing touch on the app store

I only use a real browser when I want to use search for a revive

El Tomboto, Friday, 8 June 2018 06:15 (one year ago) link

Whoa hi there youre missed!

(Also tombot exactly otm)

Hunt3r, Friday, 8 June 2018 10:38 (one year ago) link

WBHSII!

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 June 2018 03:34 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Basically went like this:

Lost internet as I couldn’t afford it.
Started reading and exercising instead.
Any time I come back it’s the same old political mess, or specific users are just shit disturbers and somehow not banned.
Love the music forums and many posters but it’s a huge relief not feeling the anxiety and stress of this fucked up woeld radiated back at me from other posters.

After 20 years here it was time to kick the biscuit and breathe for once. Peace !

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:58 (one year ago) link

* world

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 13:58 (one year ago) link

if it matters Ross i'm always glad when i see you've posted

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:10 (one year ago) link

:) you too, thanks

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:27 (one year ago) link

I feel for a lot of people here who are experiencing extreme anxiety due to the climate were in. Hopefully there is peace around the corner or just take some time for yourself to feel less anxious

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:29 (one year ago) link

I'm glad when I see you post too. Whenever I get angry at someone on ilx for being lazily opaque I end up talking about food.

Yerac, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:44 (one year ago) link

Did Ross have a different screen name before in 20 years of posting? I feel like I just saw the name pop up in abundance recently and truly cannot keep track of who is oldtime and who is real and who is pretending anymore. There is not a thread I'm aware of to get a straight answer so I figured I would ask here for transparency's sake.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:29 (one year ago) link

hey la lechera, i should clarify i was a lurker for 18-19 years truthfully, i posted once back in the day but got my ass handed to me on a platter so lurked up until 2 years ago maybe...

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

i definitely have followed all the rockism-changes in personnel here over the years tho

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

I thought you were a Ross that allyzay was friends with in NY ,but, obv am wrong.

Yerac, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:37 (one year ago) link

That was a character portrayed by David Schwimmer.

pplains, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:38 (one year ago) link

zing!

Yerac, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:39 (one year ago) link

haha

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

I miss Lex posting