Going through years of cd booklets..

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I wouldn't be surprised if this has been discussed here before, but I really had no idea where to start looking. I finally decided to go through a couple years of cd booklets recently and found myself cringing at the disposability of some of my choices. Like many of you, I eat up music at a fast rate, and revisions of taste are bound to come up. I'm 22, and I found my tastes increasingly drifting towards more experimental/avant garde/ (I hate to put it so simply, but for the sake of this dilemma) albums, so some of the older music I've purchased just seems horribly boring and conservative. I must clarify that I (think more discernibly) love a large amount of genres still, but I looked back and cringed that somehow I had bought cd's like Feist, Modest Mouse, most of Tori Amos' output, Avalanches, etc.

I guess my question is - It's often hard to just sell cd's that are old, so do you keep exiled cd's for sentimental value? do you give them away to friends? is a ritualistic cd smashing a good idea? - I don't care about the money I spent about them at one point, I feel like there's some tainting in the collection that needs to be resolved. :)

This is my first post, and my name is Ross by the way -- I have been reading this forum for awhile and enjoyed it very much.

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

..but I looked back and cringed that somehow I had bought cd's like Feist, Modest Mouse, most of Tori Amos' output, Avalanches, etc.

Why? I can't claim to own albums by all those people, but that's decent music. I'd hold on to at least some of those since you're going to want some music you can just throw on in the background or for a party someday. Can't engage with the experimental every day.

business up front, party entrance at side door (mike h.), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

When I have CDs I don't want any longer, I try to sell what I can, give some to the library, give away others, leave some sitting around in unexpected places and then run away, etc.

It's true, you might want to consider the possibility that getting more into experimental things doesn't necessarily mean that you will, from here on, only be listening to such things.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:32 (seventeen years ago) link

The "I like avant-garde now, so this pop music has got to go" line of thinking can only end in tears.
At the very least, rip and burn before you trade them in.

I feel like there's some tainting in the collection that needs to be resolved. :)

I think it's much cooler to have Harry Partch (or whatever) and Tori Amos in the same collection.

I was scared of that sort of interpretation actually Marmot, that's why I put I hate to put it so simply in brackets. I actually love a lot of music, a ton of funk, my favourite band are Broadcast (who I think combine experimental aesthetics and pop-structures very well). I guess I used the example of experimental as just finding some of the other music a bit unsatisfying at times-- I mean, I'm not simply into experimental, one of my favourite albums this year is Dub Trios - which is far from avant-garde.

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

You are two young to be getting rid of those. Hold on to them -- you'll love them all again in 5-6 years (and forever) if you ever did. If you never loved them, on the other hand, dump them.

Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Some stuff i listened to when i was 18-22 i sold and years later regretted it. Luckily i hadnt sold much but you will always go back to things. I ended up buying some of it back.
So i'd say file away for a rainy day.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Mark, I was thinking of keeping a lot of my older cd's organized in a convenient binder, so I could easily get back into them if I felt the need. Maybe I'm reacting too much - I mean, I know I've said it earlier, but I'm definitely not strictly interested in avant garde -- I am aware of this very much as I make a lot of music and notice the desire to use many genres as a jumping point. Thanks also Brigadier - waiting may really be the key with this situation -- if in 10 years I absolutely feel the same way, then maybe it's more of the right time to let them go.

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Any music you are afraid of cooler pals seeing and disapproving of should be immediately send to the furnace!

(Yours truly lost his Snakefinger and 23 Skidoo records because of such silly sentiments. A negative development, to be definite.)

Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not afraid of cooler pals and the like though, at least I don't want it to turn into that. I mean, I really loved the last White Stripes album and didn't care who knew (I never liked any of their earlier material). I agree with what you're saying, I think this thread has actually changed my mind on the issue in ways. Thank you all genuinely.

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

OTOH, I have to admit, I can't think of any CDs (tapes, vinyl) I've gotten rid of that I seriously regret selling. At worst I am left wondering why I was in such a hurry to get rid of some things that were okay. Even if your tastes shift back to include more pop/popular things, there's no guarantee you will want the same things you were listening to before.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 25 June 2006 01:02 (seventeen years ago) link

There's nothing wrong with selling records you're bored with, if you don't think you'll ever be interested in them again. I've done it a lot, myself. And, if you're wrong and get interested in them again and even buy them again, you've just doubled your support for the artist in question, so they should be thanking you.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 25 June 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I've sold an awful lot of records in my life -- not CDs, mind you -- and I've come to regret a large chunk of that, even though I currently have no functional turntable. The only class of records I ditched that I haven't missed one bit are the Cuneiform (& family) albums -- Art Zoyd, Univers Zero, and the like. The unlistenability of that self-indulgent art-rock tripe stands up to the test of time.

I've recently taken up selling a few unloved CDs to Amoeba, but this time, the criterion isn't whether the music is good or bad, it's whether it's mind-numbingly boring. I really don't like to listen to Drugs are Nice by Lisa Suckdog/Carver, but because it's so distinguishedly BAD, I can't get rid of it, either. Reformed Suicide CDs, on the other hand, arrive at the Amoeba guillotine with nary a (crocodile?) tear from m'self.

Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Sunday, 25 June 2006 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I've sold thousands of CDs and albums in my life; regretted a few; who cares. But okay, here's my question: is any record store gonna give you money for frigging BOOKLETS? Where are the jewel cases? And the back ends of the CD sleeves, etc.? Fuck binders, man....My advice is buy yourself some SHELVES, and arrange your CDS PROPERLY.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM, a bunch of my CDs/DVDs/videogames are scuffed somewhat from keeping them in booklets when I was younger. I hate the damn things.
Heh, I was wondering about the same thing, xhuxk. When I worked at a CD store I used to dread the sight of someone walking in with a big, fat CD booklet. They'd immediately start sweet-talking me, I'd open up the booklet and see no cases at all, and I knew I'd be in a stupid argument within about 30 seconds.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Sunday, 25 June 2006 02:55 (seventeen years ago) link

how could you say you cringe at modest mouse?! screw Good News (although, i still do like that) but the other albums are amazing! The Lonesome Crowded West is one of my favorites. do not cringe at Modest Mouse. embrace and enjoy

Travis Hill (israel putnam), Sunday, 25 June 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah it's not like you have a bunch of Creed and Nickelback and Limp Bizkit...DO YOU????
I totally wish I still had the Reality Bites soundtrack that I sold back when I still sold CDs.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 25 June 2006 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Lisa Loeb! Juliana Hatfield!...uh, what else?
OMGZ THERE IS A 10TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION WITH EXTRA TRACKS:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00025D9X8/102-1495388-2797705?v=glance&n=5174

I am totally keeping every dumb CD I own, so that my children might say, "Daddy, who the fuck were the Darkness?"

A link to 'Will Getting Older Make Me Hate The Music I Love' thread needed I feel.

tolstoy (tolstoy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

this is why you should stay with ctrl+shift+delete+low level format

some part of you will _always_ be physically tainted by tori amos

i don't think i could EVER fully respect you knowing that, you're damaged goods

nikki weber (nikudnik), Sunday, 25 June 2006 10:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Lisa Loeb! Juliana Hatfield!...uh, what else?

You run the wrath of J.D.!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 25 June 2006 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link

"I really don't like to listen to Drugs are Nice by Lisa Suckdog/Carver,"

Just bought the book!

And rofl at cringing at yer past taste because it's CONSERVATIVE. There's nothing wrong with Modest Mouse nor Tori Amos. Keep those CDs, who knows, maybe you'll *devolve* again in a few yrs when you turn old and, like, senile.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 25 June 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I should clarify that I get rid of CDs all the time, mostly of stuff I never had a connection with. But if you really enjoyed something once, I say hold on to it because you probably will again down the road. But if you thought it was just alright first time around then sell it. Can't just have CDs piling up forever.

Mark (MarkR), Sunday, 25 June 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm, I like the idea of leaving cds in random places and running away.

Don Rowlando (Sam Rowlands), Sunday, 25 June 2006 11:19 (seventeen years ago) link

but I looked back and cringed that somehow I had bought cd's like Feist

this only came out like a year ago! yeesh you are fickle. in two years you'll probably only be listening to country or something and be embarrassed at all your avant-garde music.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 25 June 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I do have jewel cases for most of them actually. I used to arrange my cd's by booklets, but over the last year I've put a lot of my newer cd's on a glass shelving unit, and I just put up 2 new shelves a couple months ago. It's made things much easier to find in general really. Re: Feist, she has a perfectly lovely voice, but I find her music just isn't really that exciting, and It's become more overexposed than anything for me - I work in music retail and I used to hear it everyday, so it may be just a matter of staying away from it for awhile. I honestly regret some of my cringing comments, as I realized this isn't quite accurate of the reaction I have to them -- I did love these cd's at one point or another, so the money is not a waste.

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 25 June 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Should I get rid of my books?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 25 June 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

On the topic of Modest Mouse, the only one I truly don't enjoy is their newest, really. (I feel like a hypocrite.)

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 25 June 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Rockist, when you say in that thread "being a librarian has made me less sentimental about books" that's what I feel like about being in music retail for 3 years. Especially when our staff has the choice of store mixes, and a lot of people put the same albums on (let's just say I've heard "Dummy" by Portishead a 1000 times, as great as it is it's tiring).

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 25 June 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Never mind CDs, I have tapes I can't bring myself to get rid of. I thought that when I had more disposable income I'd replace them all with CDs, especially as I don't have a cassette walkman to make them worth the while, but many of them being things I bought with my pocket money or the wages from the record exchange I worked in...I can't really do it. There's probably no real kudos in your Smiths albums being on Rough Trade or your copy of George Best having the original Reception catalogue number, but these were things I hunted down or waited to turn up.

Mippy (Mippy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

x post

Why do you have to run?

tolstoy (tolstoy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus, I've spent the past year or so re-buying stuff like Carter USM, Drive like Jehu, Wedding Present, Prolapse - even Free Kitten! Noslagia is a powerful and undeniable force. You'll be back for that stuff you sold...

paulhw (paulhw), Sunday, 25 June 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The sad thing is I sometimes think I can get past the sentimentality of losing an album, but I know I've came back to many other forms of media with a refreshed joy over time. I wish I could edit my initial post actually, I've thought about what the best thing to do is, and holding onto the discs seems majorly the preferable option now. Sometimes discs that become less interesting over time can be worth it for the one or two spine-chilling moments or exceptional tracks.

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh is it cool to have Harry Partch in yr collection? I'll keep it then.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 26 June 2006 07:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Only if you also have Tori Amos!
Keep them until you have a child and then sell them to pay for the nappies, etc.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 June 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Or sell your child to buy more CDs.
I hope to open a chimney sweep agency for that purpose.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 June 2006 09:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Smart people often go through a phase in their 20s/30 that causes them to intellectually divorce themselves from what they actually like.

They abandon the music that gave them unselfconscious pleasure in their youth, cringing at what it seems (somehow) to reveal. Instead of merely following their hopelessly out-of-touch hearts & ears, they develop a purely intellectual interest in "cutting edge" sonics. This leads to a period of exploratory indulgences and an unfortunate tendency to play weird music at parties until someone with more sense puts the Missy Elliott record back on.

Most folks eventually outgrow it. For this reason, I suggest that you hold on to everything that you once liked. ESPECIALLY the stuff that you feel kinda embarassed of. That's the music you'll get the most mileage out of over the years...

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a time when I was in junior high school, where I decided to sell off a whole bunch of LPs and CDs. I think I did it because I wanted money to buy some expensive bootleg LPs. I cannot express how much I regret having sold off so much good music just to have some bootlegs that I hardly ever listen to. I don't know what the heck I was thinking. It's been nearly 20 years since then and I'm still pissed!

Think before you sell - if there is any chance that you think you may want to listen to those CDs at any point in the future, don't get rid of them! Only do it if you absolutely hate the music and if you know you'll never ever want to hear it again.

Matt Olken (Moodles), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Fuckfucking - I do agree with you at points, but in following my collection over the years I've much less music I don't like, then music I do, which I'm happy about. Like I said earlier, I'm not purely into avant-garde - I still like all the Parliament, Funkadelic, Kate Bush, Scott Walker, Tom Waits, Stereolab, Cocteau Twins,Yma Sumac etc. which was the middle of my cd collecting years. There's just some cd's that seem to offer little (though in time I can see what you mean about the "mileage" of them) , but I'm still open to music of all genres. I don't want to overstress this, but I'm definitely not someone who is purely into only experimental.

ross m (Snorb), Monday, 26 June 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The only time I think I've ever seriously regretted getting rid of CDs was when I sold my Secret Chiefs 3 collection, only to realise later that it was only their first CD that I didn't much care for and having to go buy it all again.

Come to think of it, it seems that I might've given all my Tom Petty to some friend real cheap back when I was in high school, which I came to regret, but the two disc anthology along with "Wildflowers" has pretty much caught me up on all that I need in that area.

vartman (novaheat), Monday, 26 June 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuckfucking has it nailed, I'm finding myself at the tail-end of this sequence of events (coincidentally at the age of 22).

Most older people I know that have sold stuff that they thought they "grew out of" seem to really regret doing so. I'd keep it.

Adam Martin (paid in cigarettes), Monday, 26 June 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll third that. I sold my vast vinyl collection 20 years ago to help fund an overseas trip and it hurts. Real bad. It's not worth it for the sake of a few bucks/quids that you'll get for selling 'em so hang on to the lot. Except The Avalanches though because they really suck.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm 21 Ross, and would never ever consider selling my cds, even all the ones I feel a little of ashamed of. The problem for me is dragging the bastards around, I invested in 2 256 cd wallet/book things and left the cd cases and booklets behind when I went to college. I've found that really unsatisfactory too, I'm far more likely to pick something out I've not heard in ages if i browse the spines than going through the awkward wallets. The cds are more likely to get scratched, especially if drunk friends are putting stuff on at a party. I find I stick on mp3s all the time because it's more convenient, and all cds (which I don't buy so much nowadays) are neglected.
So I'm just going to have to start a ripping project and leave them all behind come septemeber when I'm back to college.

The only phase of destroying music I went through was on the cusp of adolesence a long time ago, when I destroyed the one or two Bryan Adams albums I had, an Ace of Base album and an East 17 album... I have no regrets.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

And for that we salute you.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Monday, 26 June 2006 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Never. Ever. Sell. Your. Record. Collection. You will regret it.

tolstoy (tolstoy), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you go through the booklets chronologically? If so, did you happen to notice when the AAD/ADD/DDD symbols disappeared? (were they left off suddenly or were they phased out slowly?)

Not important, just wondering.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

How would you have noticed if they were ' phased out slowly ', weaker ink?

tolstoy (tolstoy), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost yeah having worked in book stores, record stores, record shows, reviewing, I too thought I was getting "less sentimental," but (despite having sold-awapped-given-donated-dumped) a shitload, I still have a lot. It'll happen. But xpost speaking of Tori etc, keep some not only for your future self, but also significant others.

don (dow), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link


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