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YEAH! I'm in so what do we do in this here room then?

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

talk about makeup and boys and lisa frank stuff

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

User BIG HOOS aka the steendriver has been successfully banned from the thread

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

is this where we talk about shoes and dryer sheets

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

in a word: y

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I am down with talking about all those things.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0G0KeGZNnU0/SOkLif0annI/AAAAAAAAAJE/P4llZRVs8yQ/s320/8baeded0.gif

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

and swiffers

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

i hate the swiffer btw

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

You hate the Swiffer? I was thinking of gettin' one tbh.

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

i dunno maybe it will improve your life but my mom got me one and it had a neutral effect afaic

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

i wish clarissa from clarissa explains it all posted here

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

i'm glad oprah doesn't post here except i would like to suggest ban her

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

MJH was a bitch to me (as covered on another recent thread) so I don't have that much <3 for Clarissa :-(

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

JTT <3333333333333333

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

also we can make those paper fortune tellers and tell each others fortunes, in fact i am gonna make one right now

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

who are:

lisa frank
mjh
clarissa

where we turn sweet dreams into remarkable realities (just1n3), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha what was the other game that was kinda like girl talk but it had men u could date?

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

x-post OK yeah, am definitely up for doing that.

GOD DAMN:

http://www.styletraxx.com/JamesFranco.jpg

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

i recall having this but i don't believe my mom would let me have it so i'm confused
http://www.boardgamesrus.com/images/Mall%20Madness%20G61.gif

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

xpost justine:

lisa frank designed crazy school supply items like some of the dolphin-festooned things you see on this thread, she was v popular with middle school aged girls in the early-mid 90s

melissa joan hart is mjh, she played the title role in "clarissa explains it all" which was a popular nickelodeon television show for the same age of girls at roughly the same time

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

i hate to be gabbneb, but i actually did briefly date a guy who kinda looked like james franco, esp as he is in this picture:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1940000/images/_1944248_mate_pa.jpg

anyways he was mad dumb

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

right??????

man i so rarely like a pinup type of dude it is kinda cool when i do cause then you can like commiserate about it with other girls

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

LOL yeah he's defintely just well . . . dreamy.

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

dryer sheets?

yes james franco is a universal.

horseshoe, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

he's 2 years older than me?!

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

dryer sheets and other products for the home lol

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah what's the with dryer sheets? I'm allergic to most fabric softeners so I have to use hippy dippy all natural stuff that doesn't work all that great but is at least something.

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

how old r u

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

i hate dryer sheets, they are pointless

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

i don't like anything that makes things smell like anything!

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Mr. Franco and I are 4 mo. and 10 days apart in age and I believe he's currently attending my alma matter.

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

damn erica lol

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

en vaporisateur

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

hahahaha touche

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

yall check out this creepy ad btw:

http://rgh.cc/albums/userpics/10001/%5Bcreepy%5Dloves-baby-soft-ad-c1976.jpg

The Neb-U-Taunt Ball (roxymuzak), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:45 (nine years ago) Permalink

(wait - I dind't actually know that . . . I looked it up just now. Just wanted to make sure you didn't think I was some franco-obsessed crazy person)

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

ew rapey

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

xp

harbl, Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok yeah, that is exceptionally creepy

Fennec fox which does grooming (ENBB), Sunday, 21 June 2009 01:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

a one-off full glam holiday extravaganza
been thinking about what my ideal version of this would look like -- probably in a city, definitely housed in an apartment (not a hotel), ideally in a place i could speak the language, which leaves open any english or spanish speaking location

i have been dreaming about Mexico City ever since i went there, probably there for lack of a better option

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 12 April 2019 22:05 (two months ago) Permalink

I’m on a long weekend vacation in LA, staying at the Waldorf in Beverly Hills, with a suitcase full of clothes from old navy. The in-room hair dryer is a fucking *Dyson*. Every single guest I’ve seen here looks insanely rich. Also skinny. I’ve been working the last year to be ok with how big my body is but being surrounded by precisely manicured perfection sure makes it tough.

This room is extremely fancy and lovely, there’s a deck with a great view, I had a delicious Italian dinner, and I started watching Russian Doll which is extremely aesthetically pleasing to me, so I’m gonna focus on that.

just1n3, Saturday, 13 April 2019 08:30 (two months ago) Permalink

When my best friend from college moved to LA she had a really hard time dealing with how perfect everyone looked there. It took years before she was comfortable with herself and in her own skin in that city. So sad.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Saturday, 13 April 2019 08:45 (two months ago) Permalink

So. I want 1) to get stinking drunk, and 2) I want to get laid. Difficulty: Life has made a point of telling me everything I want is WRONG.

There are actually two men showing interest in me, but one goes to the gym at my workplace, and the other lives across the street from me. (Also, extrapolating from the way he treats his dog, he is a fundamentally decent person and I don't want to do him wrong.) I don't even expect useful responses, I just wanted to say something to SOMEONE.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 15 April 2019 23:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Smh at that weight watchers thread.

Erica, if you’re reading this - don’t go back in there. I’m staying out bc ppl are getting v weird at the idea that it’s ok to be fat.

just1n3, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:08 (one month ago) Permalink

I don't think that anyone (maybe 1) was necessarily being weird about it. I remember liking that article you posted when it first came out but on that thread I guess it could feel discouraging for people who are trying to make changes to themselves without it being a criticism on other peoples' bodies.

Yerac, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Just looked before coming here. All this stuff is so loaded for me that I should really just steer clear. I only commented yesterday because 1400 calories seemed alarmingly low for an adult male. There’s a reason you see people posting in there - oops gained most of it back! Ugh.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:40 (one month ago) Permalink

i don't read/look at any of that
i objected to the revival of the "nutrition nazi" thread and i feel that in 2019 the harm of ___ nazi is pretty clear but also i completely object to the idea that calorie restriction is equivalent to nutrition.

none of that stuff for me thx

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 19:42 (one month ago) Permalink

I really did enjoy aspects of the NN thread back in the days where it was deeply into sardines, but agree that —— Nazi is not cool and I don’t have any particular sensitivities around this stuff (anymore!) so I am still game to read that thread.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 20:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Sometimes I think the nicest thing about unemployment is I don't have to hear woman who are much smaller than me complain about how fat they are.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 25 April 2019 02:38 (one month ago) Permalink

It's always relative but, yes, this is something I've never fucking understood. How tone deaf are people that they think doing this is OK? Then again what people say never ceases to amaze me. When I was about 13 I was having a ice cream cone with friends and some fucking asshole jock dude walked by and said "You don't need that, hon". A stranger on the street said this to a child. Maybe a year or so later I had a twisted ankle and was sitting with some older camp counselors who were talkign about one of my friend's figures and how they wished they looked like her and I must have said something like "I know, right?" to fit in and one of them snapped back at me "Well, when I was your age I did look like her" as if I had no excuse. People are assholes and have absolutely no idea how much damage this shit does. Not that it matters but the fact that I was no larger than a size 12 at either of these times does make it a little more ridiculous.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:25 (one month ago) Permalink

How tone deaf are people that they think doing this is OK?

A lot of them probably do think that they're fat and that you (the general 'you' of whoever happens to be in the room at the time) are not. I am fairly fat but I've caught myself complaining about my size around women who are several sizes larger than me, because in my head they look good and I don't, and that's the thing. I have no problem with any woman being fat but I have a problem with ME being fat, because I've so internalised the hatred and fear. It is thoughtless behaviour, I know, but I tend to give people who are directing that prejudice at themselves and not at others the benefit of the doubt. However, if they do direct it outwards then they can go fuck themselves, that's a given.

emil.y, Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:53 (one month ago) Permalink

I feel similarly about people who look at me and say to my face “I hate you” because I am small. Like I am just a small person, always have been, and didn’t ask for this. I hate you? Really? This is from friends! They always say they’re joking but 1) not funny and 2) still hurts to be told that someone HATES me even (especially?) in jest. The cruelty never ends. I’m really over people using jokes as a cover for whatever it is they’re actually expressing. Also 100% done with the self-loathing that motivates it.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:55 (one month ago) Permalink

People are the absolute worst. I used to hate going to Taiwan to visit family because I always was the biggest girl in every room and other women had no problem pinching and laughing at the huge visiting american. My mom still thinks that the worst thing to happen in life is to become fat and it's impossible to deprogram her.

I was just rewatching the Bridget Jones movies this week because it popped up on netflix and holy crap, a lot of it has aged super poorly.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:57 (one month ago) Permalink

x-post - You're absolutely right and I'm sure I've been guilty of this in the past too but it just seems inexcusable in this day and age and mostly just makes me sad.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:01 (one month ago) Permalink

The bridget jones shit annoyed me at the time I mean wtf she's not even remotely fat at any point in the movie.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:02 (one month ago) Permalink

"People are the absolute worst. I used to hate going to Taiwan to visit family because I always was the biggest girl in every room and other women had no problem pinching and laughing at the huge visiting american." Until literally the last time I talked to her before she died my foreign grandmother's first question to me on every phone call would be if I was "watching my figure". I wish I could say I'm over all this shit but I'm not. I wore a dress last weekend and felt so terrible about myself I was anxious all day. I'm hot and I'm 41 years old for fucks sake. I know this and yet I was an anxious mess the entire day and had to force myself not to just go home and hide inside. Thanks grandma and random asshole who told me not to eat ice cream.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:04 (one month ago) Permalink

I had no recollection of the second movie and was constantly amazed about every single decision to humiliate her. xpost

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:05 (one month ago) Permalink

I think I've only ever seen the first. How many were there??

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Ha, the last time I spoke to my mom on the phone (I haven't seen my family since they voted for Trump and only talk to my mom on the phone) my spouse was saying something to me and I was shhh'ing him and she thought I had this secret that I didn't want to tell her and she said "is it that you got fat?" I was like "ffs, this is exactly why I don't like spending time with any of you when you didn't even try to be nice or appreciative that we took the time and energy to visit."

I think there are 3 although I only rewatched the first two.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:10 (one month ago) Permalink

The last time I spent time with my mom before her death she actually said to me, over Christmas dinner no less, "You really like to eat, huh?". When I asked what she meant by that she said that she could see it in my body. I lost my shit. This is the same woman who took me to the doctor when I was underweight from not eating and ok i have to stop because I'm getting upset just talking about it but yeah. Fuck all of this.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:20 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm a pretty consistently happy person but family can drive anyone to the opposite extreme. There is never anything rational about the behaviours involved.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 14:31 (one month ago) Permalink

A lot of them probably do think that they're fat and that you (the general 'you' of whoever happens to be in the room at the time) are not. ... complaining about my size around women who are several sizes larger than me, because in my head they look good and I don't, and that's the thing.

I used to be in a band w/ 2 other women, and one of them, the singer, would do this. ... She was the thinnest of the 3 of us. ... Now she is ... very, very, thin ... and she is/was open about having body dysmorphia. Anyway, what you said, emil.y, makes this weird disjunction make sense to me. ... because this woman would complain about being fat, say things that equate fat with being unattractive, in front of/to me -- a plus-sized person -- and not think she was being remotely insulting or awkward.

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:44 (one month ago) Permalink

I do think that sometimes there's a degree of this but I also think sometimes people really are just assholes and don't care (like the women in the swimsuit story above).

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:47 (one month ago) Permalink

I definitely underestimate the assholism of people sometimes, and it can lead to me seeming like an apologist for assholes, but I just always want to be sympathetic initially before remembering how much everyone sucks.

emil.y, Thursday, 25 April 2019 15:53 (one month ago) Permalink

The cruelty of other people always has a purpose. I do apologize it sometimes from older women because they were brainwashed into thinking that their daughters need to attract and be married off in order for everyone to have successfully accomplished most important goals in life. Or else because they never got the chance to not give a shit how they looked.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:00 (one month ago) Permalink

xxp - I want to be able to teleport/time travel to be able to yell at these people.

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:00 (one month ago) Permalink

It's never too late to start!

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:02 (one month ago) Permalink

xp - ugh. I guess I am lucky in that I never got that from my mother or my grandmother. Instead I got from my mother, "it's very important that you develop skills in order to be self-sufficient, so that you don't have to get married in order to be financially stable." My mother has been more-or-less happily married to my father for 50+ years. So it's not like she is passing on a lesson that she had to learn the hard way. But, I have taken this advice, and somehow combined it with my body image/fatness, and internalized it as "because I am fat (among other personal flaws), and am unlikely to find a suitable partner to marry, it is imperative that I'm able to be self-reliant."

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:09 (one month ago) Permalink

like if I was thin and cute and not an overbearing bitch, I could easily meet a future partner who can provide at least half of our collective financial support and carry heavy objects, and get food for me when I'm sick, etc.

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:11 (one month ago) Permalink

My mom stressed the same thing about self reliance and I totally internalized it as well, but I thought it was bc I’m an only child and there is no one what will take care of me. I really bought that 100%.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:21 (one month ago) Permalink

My mom stressed self reliance (probably because she dislikes who she ended up marrying) but then she flips to the opposite all the time. I think a lot of parents just parented according to what they thought they should do/say but didn't actually believe it or had no intention of practicing it once the kids became independent adults. People just say shitty things aloud all the time. People are complicated.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:39 (one month ago) Permalink

my mother was always thinking of various female relatives and friends, whom she would hold up as "cautionary tales." ... like her sister, Judy, who has always been single. Judy didn't finish college until she was in her 50s; she worked a series of low-paying jobs in cafes, restaurants, and bookstores, from which she would regularly quit or get fired, generally because she would complain about something that wasn't "fair" or "done properly," and would go back and forth between having to move back in with my grandparents, to being able to afford to rent a small apartment ... the cautionary tale of Aunt Judy wasn't "you need to get married" but "graduate from college and develop useful skills in the labor market," as well as "keep your complaints to yourself." ... Then there is my mom's friend, Cindy -- another cautionary tale -- who is also obese, but unlike my mother, did not have healthy eating habits so she developed type 2 diabetes and struggled with having to eat vegetables and cut down on soda. The cautionary tale of Cindy isn't "don't be fat," but instead, "remember how your mother raised you to eat salad with most meals" and "learn to cook nutritious foods in a way that makes you want to eat them"

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:57 (one month ago) Permalink

oops, I deleted a sentence about how my mother has been fat/obese since her late 20s (around the time I was born) and I pretty much inherited her metabolism and body type. ...

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:02 (one month ago) Permalink

from the weight watchas thread:

depression over the ugly ugly clothes I've had to wear as a fat person (there are no fashionable stores for "plus size" dudes - anything you can buy in casual male xl will make you look like a retired cop at church)

part of me sympathizes with this as a plus size person ... but as a woman, I have an instinctive urge to say "waaah poor baby" because women's fashion is so much more fraught and there is so much more baggage, and the reason that things are actually "better" in plus-size women's fashion, is a lot of activism and advocacy and a lot of that has come from women of color, and like, if women of color can do the work to improve the quality and options for plus-size women's fashion ... imagine how much white men could do if they put their privilege to work.

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Really want to post this on the other thread but they’ll lost their shit if I do. I think it’s really important.

http://i63.tinypic.com/ngom8p.jpg

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:08 (one month ago) Permalink

Hahahahaha omg I’m dying - wrong picture!!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:08 (one month ago) Permalink

This is what I meant to post:

http://i66.tinypic.com/1hfako.jpg

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:10 (one month ago) Permalink

holy shit, I didn't scroll and just spent way too much time trying to put the evian dick sucking post in context with the ww thread.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:15 (one month ago) Permalink

lol I mean that’s an important tweet for sure but not in reference to that thread

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:17 (one month ago) Permalink

omg the evian dick sucking!!

sarahell, Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh god, I laughed so hard at that.

emil.y, Thursday, 25 April 2019 19:20 (one month ago) Permalink

from the weight watchas thread:

depression over the ugly ugly clothes I've had to wear as a fat person (there are no fashionable stores for "plus size" dudes - anything you can buy in casual male xl will make you look like a retired cop at church)

As someone who has spent the past decade moving from "buying plus size clothes in the women's department" to "buying plus size clothes in the men's department", I can categorically state that the original post is not even remotely true. (And I don't even shop at ~fashionable stores~ - I'm able to find stuff that fits and looks stylish at high street shops like Marks and Sparks and Debenhams.)

Einstürzende NEU!bauten (Branwell with an N), Friday, 26 April 2019 07:34 (one month ago) Permalink

ha, I did the reverse journey about 5-10 years ago (plus size men's to plus size women's). ... like part of the reason why I started dressing butch at the time was because I "got fat"

sarahell, Friday, 26 April 2019 16:58 (one month ago) Permalink

not implying anything about anyone other than me ... or raising politics of gender presentation, etc. ... just that as a plus-size person, menswear, with its waist and in-seam sizing was very liberating, compared to ... okay, now you are too fat to buy regular clothes, you have to go to this sad corner next to the maternity section to buy clothes, and sometimes the plus sizes get mixed with the mumswear, and it is an awkward experience when you are not, in fact, pregnant

sarahell, Friday, 26 April 2019 17:02 (one month ago) Permalink

the semiotics thread i started 10 years ago was inspired by that

sarahell, Friday, 26 April 2019 17:04 (one month ago) Permalink

I think I’m basically ready now to get married bar a few last minute things - genuinely a bit “oh fuck” now that it’s so near and all.

I have a little bouquet charm so I want to source a nice ribbon for that, otherwise weirdly I think (besides the obvious), I am most looking forward to my dad’s speech and I’m going to cry like fifty times.

gyac, Monday, 6 May 2019 16:21 (one month ago) Permalink

congrats again! do you have a date set? I was unaware of bouquet charms and am now looking them up.

Yerac, Monday, 6 May 2019 17:45 (one month ago) Permalink

My sincerest felicitations to the bride to be!

For my part I've seen and even talked to that guy at the gym again (named Nick, BTW). I thought I psyched myself up to talk to him again today, so of course he didn't show up. It was the sort of day when I suspect I have a fairy godmother watching over my love life...but she has no idea what she's doing. Oh, well.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 6 May 2019 22:18 (one month ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

I am actually legit fat and no one calls me fat. Like, calling someone fat, or making fat jabs seems like something intended for the moderately chubby.

homosexual II, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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