rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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Thought we should have a thread that's a catch-all for any and all conversations that start like this, since we seem to have like five or six threads for it.

I'll go first:

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno if its racist but its certainly unlistenable crap

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, this thread is not just for songs, but commercials, movies, tv shows, jpegs, assorted anything.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh word, noticed this is on I Love Everything.

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I mean where the fuck is I Love Racism already

cambyrdsclosetvacuumsounds4fun (acoleuthic), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh dude, I always wonder about this one: "White Girl" by X. what the fuck is up with that? Has John Doe ever addressed it?

what do you think is racist about this song...?

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Why's he talking about white girls?

kkvgz, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

for reference:

She's blonde,
She's blonde,
Comes along the sidewalk.

She's Blonde,
Leave a trail of blue and black,
Up to you fighting back.

She's Blonde,
Steel chains,
A noose of charms on our necks.

I find out nothing when we talk and sit,
Blue heart passion and watch the set.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away,
Cheaters walk, down the block behind this evil street.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl-

Nineteen,
Nineteen.. losing her man to an old girl.

Nineteen,
Drain every beer left over at home,
and listen to ghosts in the other room.

I Can't!
Why not? You're alone inside his keeping.

Oh I'll replace your drunk old man,
Sit in the parking lot and hold your hand.

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
Drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl, well I'm living with a white girl-

Easy to fall, when part of your skull starts to break away...
drugged and in love out at a club pulling me outside.

She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl,
She's a white girl well I'm living with a white girl

having just finished re-reading We Got the Neutron Bomb my guess is this song is about the young lady that Exene moved out to California with, who was by all accounts something of a bitch who would pull white-supremacist provacateur type stuff to get a rise out of people.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

blanking on her name at the moment.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not racist. Someone else could make the argument for exploitative, but it's a stretch to say that the Kings of Leon have any hatred or intolerance toward black people.

Now apologize for making me watch a Kings of Leon video for two minutes.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's hard to call a music video 'exploitative' -- what are they exploiting these kids for? no one watches music videos. they have no impact, unless you're lady gaga

colonialist maybe, but remember that KOL are the most popular band in europe

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

racist, clearly not

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

would've preferred video featuring band being murdered by black kids

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

It reminded me of a generic John Cougar Mellencamp video. Had they been white kids, it would've looked like 70% of the videos on CMT.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Still waiting for an apology.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I guess exploitative and colonialist (is that the right word?) more than captial-R RACIST, but still like; who does a video treatment that;'s like "OK, you're hugging black kids for four minutes"

obv the answer is "the dude who directed the new Kings of Leon video, whose name somehow has not yet made it to the bits of the Internet you can hit within 5 minutes of using Google"

(that more than anything else is making me lol, like whoever this was basically went "I'll do this for you and it will be awesome! I don't want any credit tho" *waits for shitstorm*)

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

carles is slippin -- passion pit already did the "hire a choir of underprivileged minority youths" thing

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 September 2010 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's not even listed on the mtv site, which is usually v good about putting directors up in there

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

gonna lol if it was Hype Williams

juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

the video and song are both unmentionably terrible w/ stupid and retrograde notions about race but i don't think they are simply ~racist~

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 September 2010 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sophie Muller directed it.

Kerm, Monday, 20 September 2010 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

more offensive for not being funny

bnw, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 01:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

that was a fake

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

but it was racist because someone realized that they could spell "nigger" by a video game and they set up a soccer video game and took a photo of it and sent it all over the internet

so yes, racist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

this isn't a thread for lol racism, fyi. keep that shit to "encyclopedia of racist products" or, like, 4chan

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

strictly concern trolling in here.

Kerm, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I figured it was some soccer thing. Wouldn't have been surprised if it had been real.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 03:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

love the gawker update where they act like they understood the joke from the beginning

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

barf

maybe LJ is right about ilx being the smartest message board

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://hipsterhitler.com/

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

gawker isnt a message board

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

ilx is my favorite blog

markers, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

MIXMASTER
RACE

EASTSIDE
WESTSIDE
GENOCIDE

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 05:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

is anti-semitism racist or not, because this guy at the bar I frequent is convinced that Birth Of A Nation was produced by Jews & that the Jews control the media etc etc

I know it sucks either way just wanted 2 know ur opinions

4 my muthafuckin mods (crüt), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Of course anti-semitism is racism. It's just that racism against Jews has acquired a term of its own, probably because discriminating them has been so prominent historically.

Where it gets tricky is when anti-Israel or anti-Zionist statements are equated with anti-semitism; of course some anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people are also anti-semitists/racists, but many of them aren't. But your case is pretty obviously racist because the target is Jews as a whole, not Israeli politics or anything.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

are the finns a race?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 06:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ca. 300 Finnish Jews fought in the War alongside the German Army[3][4]. The field synagogue operated by the Finnish army was probably a unique phenomenon in Europe.

Guess they didn't have Google then either.

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

take it to i love footy

― p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3),

jesus way to zing an entire bord of innocents wtf

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Subtle "Americans don't like soocer and aren't racist" undertones there

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah really i'm getting some prety bad vibes offa this zorn character. bet he's norwegian/icelandic thor worshipper

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

zorn smash

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

is this chorus racist?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://dasracist.net/

am0n, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

idk singing about sippin syrup like three 6 and getting "slizzered"

it's a bit 3oh3 minstrel

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can def see that

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Man, if it's wrong to make fun of people who drink cough syrup to get high, I don't wanna get high.

doobieborther, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

How does all the lol ghetto retard stuff on lamebook.com fit into this thread? Not sure if I'd rather it be real or fake.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think a bunch of well-off white people looking at it on their MacBook Pros and laughing at it through a mouthful of Whole Foods salad bar is pretty racist

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

glad I'm broke, on a dell, and had chili for lunch then.

zomg_bong.mp3 (Kerm), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

so like, on a pitchfork scale of 0.0 to 10.0, where 10.0 is a lynching, and 0.0 is Martin Luther King Jr. enjoying a cup of coffee while making breakfast, in his pajamas, humming a soft song to himself, where would the MacBook Pro thing fall? where does this comment fall?

I think this thread, while started with the noblest of intentions, has been a failure. And the reason I believe it has failed is that we (as a society) are so resigned to simply declaring something racist or not, as if it's binary, instead of attempting to quantify exactly how racist something really is, using numerical scales.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

that scene from Louie where the school bus breaks down in Harlem and he reassigns the black kids the window seats: greater than 1.2?

*folds hands, rests elbows on desk, places chin on fingertips, looks up and slightly to the left, thinks*

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think you've anticipated an exciting new direction for Pitchfork Reviews Reviews

sarahel, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

God, this fucking thread. Is this racist? Is it? Well? I need something to be outraged about, fuckin' tell me!!! Ugh.

SourPatchCorpse, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dont think anyone is really all that outraged tbh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Was Dr. King's morning coffee fair trade or unregulated?

http://tinyurl.com/vrrr0000m (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Exactly, this thread isn't about being outraged at these things, it's about discussing them, and learning from them, and analyzing peoples motivations, gaining valuable insight into contemporary race relations, and proposing solutions for a more equitable society. Which is why it is essentially ineffectual, and why we should focus on merely assigning submitted material a score.

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

we can't be sure, can we, so let's kick it up to 0.8

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp that is not for me, as a MacBook Pro owner, to say

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

jk i don't really own one of those racist fuckin computers ;p

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

venti frap all over the keyboard

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 20:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

black people eat Whole Foods salad bar, too

― sarahel, Tuesday, September 21, 2010 3:19 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

white people live in "ghetto"s too, but hilarious that you missed my point so wildly

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

― my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:41 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

3.9 imo, though it depends what you were eating when you posted it

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

meth is a white trash drug last time I checked, but ok?

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

stop being rooster racists

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

So it's only OK to laugh at Mexicans when they do white trash drugs?

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm more laughing at the rooster, honestly

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

you better be

del griffith, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, mods plz delete jpg from thread, there's a reason thats on 77

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

in case l0rena googles "20ur8gm.png"

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

OMG GOOGLE FOR http://i55.tinypic.com/20ur8gm.png AND FIND LORENA

jeff, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

ahahaha

my friend flocka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Your search - 20ur8gm.png - did not match any documents.

markers, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 01:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

when ppl talk abt "traditional african culture"

a fucking knitted scarf (another al3x), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 03:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm reading a column in a COLLEGE NEWSPAPER about Obama "getting his grove back"

This is kinda racist right?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

GROOVE*********

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

That one is questionable. I doubt intentionally racist, but certainly guilty of trying and failing to be "witty".

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

bohemian groove

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

orange grove- racist, sectarian

i dont love everything, i love football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ok actually this was based off a bill Clinton quote

I bet this chick is still kinda racist, but my apologies

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Clinton can't be racist because he was the first black president.

Super Cub, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

^racist?

Super Cub, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/led-zepplin-front-man-spooked-black-music

Led Zepplin Front Man 'Spooked' by Black Music
By nsenga.burton
Created 09/22/2010 - 18:30

Robert Plant refers to black music as "spook music."

Fresh from the "We can't make this up file," Led Zepplin front man Robert Plant said that "spook music" is one of his favorite genres of music. When did he do this? On a recent appearance on The Today Show. While promoting his new album Band of Joy, Plant opened up about his influences. "[British people] didn't really have the musical knowledge as you guys have [in America]," said Plant. "So we tapped as much American 'spook music' as we could -- as much blues -- mixed it up and nobody liked it. But the feeling of freedom was fantastic." Take the needle off the record. The man whose work is clearly an appropriation of black culture, doesn't know that "spook music," is a derogatory term for black music? Wow. We won't mention the time period of when Led Zepplin ruled the airwaves. He should appropriate some more black culture and call himself "The Great Pretender," because that is what he appears to be.

*makes 'drinky-drinky' motion with hand* (gr8080), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^sounds highly unlikely, show me the clip

do you feel me? somebody, feel me (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

#

*makes 'drinky-drinky' motion with hand* (gr8080), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

massive facepalm

bang (HI DERE), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 22:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

wth

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe he just doesn't know, thinks its akin to ~spooky~......it's not a racial epithet in england

don't rly care either way but just saying

E-Mil Cioran (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ "thinks its akin to spooky" uh no he doesn't

zvookster, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

think he was probably trying to make some point abt how the music was held in low esteem by whites who weren't him & jon bonham. like there's a bit of time travel going on. he might have said "race music".

zvookster, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

classic interview response

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

in his defence, he didn't say spook music was his favorite genre. that actually is from the department of making it up.

zvookster, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

um that quote is not in the clip

do you feel me? somebody, feel me (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

so again, show me the evidence or I'm gonna continue believing this is some kind of misquote/misinterpretation cuz I really have a hard time believing Page would knowingly and casually use a racial epithet

do you feel me? somebody, feel me (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's at 1:03 in the youtube

zvookster, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.spookmusic.com/

buzza, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Robert is a little older and a little more cosmopolitan than I am, I'm sure, but I am Britishes and have never heard the term 'spook music'.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have never heard the phrase "spook music" in my life.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have nfi what it even means.

cathedral-sized jellyfish in your mind (Trayce), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

"The music of spook - a unique mix of relaxed grooves, mystic spheres and a deep positive feeling of life. Oh yeah, racism too."

buzza, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah having seen the video it's pretty clearly not a word-choice error

still, i guess he is talking historically and he is invoking some tired archetype while unaware that spook is simply a pejorative

E-Mil Cioran (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

doesn't ~look~ like he's trolling

E-Mil Cioran (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah I see it now - sorry

fuck I dunno what the hell he was thinking. bizarre.

do you feel me? somebody, feel me (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

we should have listened to Bill Magill :(

goole, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

otoh yeah I have never heard the term "spook music" before in my life. "spook" okay yeah that's an archaic racial epithet but... wtf it's a total facepalm/headscratch moment.

I imagine a public apology will be forthcoming shortly lol

do you feel me? somebody, feel me (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was hoping he'd throw ~air tildes~ around it like "we played ~spook music~" as if to suggest that's what ~they~ called it

but no

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spook music:

a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spock music:

a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sparks music:

a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow u put in some work on this one man

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

just keepin it positive

a seminar on ass play for kids or something (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i mean at least link to ghostbox or s/thing for yr spook music

E-Mil Cioran (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think "that's what THEY called it" is going to be an effective strategy when using racially loaded terminology

bang (HI DERE), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

right right, i was just imagining scenarios where this could be something other than an outright fuckup, but no, it's a fuckup

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

How has he been playing music for 40 years and no one told him that's offensive!

^^^that's lightweight jammin (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Robert Plant issues apology

buzza, Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe he doesn't throw it around all the time? xp

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

is he a known racist?

E-Mil Cioran (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

*logs on to nme.com*

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey everybody just real quick i'ma c'mon son.jpg myself xp

"SEX" drought, 2 wisks (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

trouble before was if you wanted to say lz were racist, you'd either need to play up the tired ~appropriation~ thing, or the volkisch immigrant song angry white ppl stuff....and the two stories didn't quite fit, but this helps to link the threads

E-Mil Cioran (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 22 September 2010 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

This is totally racist, but what the fuck is wrong with Australia/New Zealand? Like first the blackface gong show and now this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/11/paul-henry-resigns-new-ze_n_757797.html

Christopher Green Leafy Swagon Indiebro (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'd love to laugh at antipodean racists, and i often do - my impersonation of an australian is to say "fucking lebos mate" - but tonight on american television a british man is going to be browned up playing a character called "Fa'ad", so maybe people in glass houses and all that.

C. Tuomas Howell (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait waht

I lettered in Sam and Carl (HI DERE), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

check out this hilarious gif of paul henry

del griffith, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/ae/articles/2010/07/18/20100718plant0718.html#ixzz10Mrv4PVU

maybe Plant thought he coined some new term or something

get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

gr8080, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I got this salsa the other day, and on the side of it it says that, "not unlike a Latin lover," it will "satisfy even your most hedonistic desires."

CharlieS, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

My favorite "is it racist?" moment on TV is the Jeopardy clip where the Indian guy flubs some question where the answer is "New Delhi", and Trebek kind of deadpans to him, "hurts to miss that one...", it's so easy to find on Youtube, it's been making me laugh for years.

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

jeff, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

kinda racist, 100% awesome

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 22:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

not your father's long duk dong

oh, boobie (tremendoid), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

CNN is stirring controversy with an article that calls the upcoming NBA All-Star Game "Black Thanksgiving."

The article, by longtime NBA analyst David Aldridge, calls All Star Weekend a "national holiday" for African Americans, and quotes USC professor Todd Boyd as saying that "the NBA All-Star weekend has turned into a celebration of African American culture by extension."

The article also ran in the middle of the front page of CNN's home page (scroll down for a screenshot).

But some of the hundreds of commenters who flooded the story were not happy. "Shame on you CNN for perpetuating the racism in America...and for what, to get readers? Are you that desperate?" commenter yippidy wrote.

"You managed to include every Black stereotype known to the Western world in this article," rockhanna said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/18/cnn-black-thanksgiving-nb_n_825335.html#s242844&title=Courtney_Browne

All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should ha (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i get the impression it's not a big deal to make fun of indians (like ppl from india) in the us right?

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah its totally ok

we make fun of them all the time

gr8080, Saturday, 19 February 2011 02:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Clay, Saturday, 19 February 2011 02:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

(t&b again)

http://tinyurl.com/lil-shits (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

teal and orange. I can't do abbrevs in my head anymore.

http://tinyurl.com/lil-shits (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 19 February 2011 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Eh? Outsourced was a pretty good and thoughtful comedy about cultural differences, and it didn't really make fun of Indians at all.

Tuomas, Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Outsourced is now a terrible sitcom on American tv

Super Cub, Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I didn't know that. That poster is from the movie, though.

Tuomas, Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

no, it's not.

Clay, Saturday, 19 February 2011 06:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, I guess you're right... The main guy and girl look pretty similar to the actors who played them in the movie, that's what fooled me.

Tuomas, Saturday, 19 February 2011 07:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's racist.

All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should ha (Phil D.), Saturday, 19 February 2011 07:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha!

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tried so hard to persevere with that show. So very hard.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 19 February 2011 11:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

competition for the kings of leon in the racial naivete stakes

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

last night's episode of Outsourced was all kinds of ugh

I really don't know why I watch it

DJP, Friday, 25 February 2011 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

why don't u outsource your terrible tv viewing to some indian people with parody apu accents and quirky yet loveable ethnic traits who can phone u and give u the episode synopses for tomorrow's office chit chat?

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

so straight up, are you Dom or just doing a great impersonation of him

DJP, Friday, 25 February 2011 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Outsourced is now a terrible sitcom

Even worse than that, it's not even a sitcom. It's one of those comedies resembling a poorly produced reality show.

Is Aware That She Hasn't Replied Much Lately (MintIce), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmn it's true i have been doing a lot of business class passantinoisms recently

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Even worse than that, it's not even a sitcom. It's one of those comedies resembling a poorly produced reality show.

No it isn't!

DJP, Friday, 25 February 2011 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm thinking that in the absence of the ayatollah weingarten, we can reorient the kulturkampf back towards the old world, adding a distinct flavour of english cultural pessimism to ilx' trademark brand of bitter sniping and relentless negativism towards mnstrm media outlets

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Snarkhchivan

Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm thinking that in the absence of the ayatollah weingarten, we can reorient the kulturkampf back towards the old world, adding a distinct flavour of english cultural pessimism to ilx' trademark brand of bitter sniping and relentless negativism towards mnstrm media outlets

i think you need to get some kind of a hobby

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Friday, 25 February 2011 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

sarahel, Monday, 14 March 2011 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess the real question is, does anyone think this is not racist?

sarahel, Monday, 14 March 2011 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

she looks racist to me

garage rock is usually very land-based (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

"i'll be deep into my studying... getting it all down... when all of a sudden I'm about to reach an epiphany..."

Mordy, Monday, 14 March 2011 23:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually this probably belongs on the "yes this is racist" thread

dayo, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

also lol @ the azns in the library vid

"all of a sudden, when I'm about to have an epiphany..."

dayo, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

LIBRARY AZN is a trending pejorative in the 2k10s

kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i laughed at that azns asleep in libraries tumblr thing once

the deej report (Lamp), Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

dayo if that youtube gal met u irl and said EUGH, U R SUCH A LIBRARY AZN (via you liking libraries, iirc)

how would u respond?

kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would probably say "CHING CHONG CHANG CHOW" and wag my finger at her

dayo, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually htat would probably be pretty racist of me :/ idk maybe I'd ask her out on a date, to the library, we could sit by the microfiche section

dayo, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://asianssleepinginthelibrary.tumblr.com/

the deej report (Lamp), Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

its so sweet how shes all 'aaanyway thank you for listening and have a nice day' at the end

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

we held hands in the TR-TZ oversized section

dayo, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

my biggest problem with college libraries is that they become these pools of self-flagellators, like it becomes a contest to see who can stay there the longest, and "I've been in the library for the past 2 weeks" becomes this sort of badge of pride, it's rly gross

dayo, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was never one of those ppl but i would always advocate to my friends that there should be some credit system for going to the library so that when finals came around you got preferential treatment over ppl that obv only came for finals and were rude ppl that didn't know how to exist politely in a library

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

do people go to the library just cause its a good quite place to work or are they actually looking at books

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

they go to meet asian girls

the deej report (Lamp), Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's like 50-50 right now but will probably be 90-10 within the next decade

iatee, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

i got books like maybe five times in four years and that was only because something i was working on required an actual book source

but so much stuff is just archived on databases now esp if you're in a liberal arts/classic field

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

dont they know they can just call asian girls on their phones xp

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

college libraries are not even that good of a place to study unless you go into one of the attic cages and seclude yourself -- otherwise you could distract yourself for hours just by running into ppl you know and/or people watching

i think most ppl go to just to be like "i got out of the house, which is something that humans do"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

how v human of them

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

it depends on the library, the one at my school goes like 5 stories underground and was super isolated and quiet + no cell phone service

iatee, Thursday, 17 March 2011 02:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah there were a couple of spots that i had where i knew i could get an afternoon's worth of quiet but i mostly just went because something about the act of driving to campus made me feel like i was really 'studying' rather than just doing problem sets in btw bouts of xbox

the deej report (Lamp), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

lamp otm

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

also I like how some white people at the UCs still think we're 'letting in these asians' instead of (at this point) 'letting in white people w/ worse test scores'. any school w/ a sizeable # of asian-americans applying has, in effect, affirmative action for white kids.

iatee, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's like 50-50 right now but will probably be 90-10 within the next decade

― iatee, Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:54 PM (11 minutes ago)

ppl go to college libraries for books?

libraries are the best place to study if you have ~your spot~

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

what if theres an asian in yr spot talking on the phone

ice cr?m, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

or a fake-body made of chinese food

iatee, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

we only 'let in' the better class of azns it wasnt a uc school i mean jeez

they all spent their time talking on gchat in the computer labs

the deej report (Lamp), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

otherwise you could distract yourself for hours just by running into ppl you know and/or people watching

i needed a bit of low-level background distraction to really get things done, college library was the perfect environment for me as an undergrad

buzza, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

i prefer a cafe, constant coffee, flirty baristas

D-40, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

there were never enough seats at my college library

three megabytes of hot RAM (abanana), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

i write in cafes; libraries are too quiet or something.

as a history major i spent/spend a lot of time with the microfiche. which was GREAT. because nobody else is ever using the microfiche, even during finals week. and the microfiche machines were next to these huge windows looking out over the girls' soccer field.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

microfilm i mean. not fiche. i don't even know what fiche is.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

microfiche are like large slides with a bunch of pages on them, that you move from side to side and up and down. it can give you a serious headache if you spend a lot of time w/it.

sarahel, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, ok, not those. the rolls. with the little trigger you press and it goes vvvvvvvVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and then you KU-CHUNK it still and try to read 17th-century cyrillic.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

that would be microfilm. for both of those i'd just print out the portions i needed and read them at home.

sarahel, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

our microfilm printer cost money and was sort of weird and finicky so i just frantically copied stuff into a notebook. except once when i discovered a totally undocumented room on a totally different floor of the library marked "MICROFILM SCANNING ROOM" and when i opened the door and found the light switch and plugged various things in it turned out to be a closet with a microfilm machine connected to a computer, so that you could dump stuff to PDF. but it didn't work very well, and the whole thing felt wrong anyway, so i went back to the windows.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

pretty badass ball, there

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

B0hn J. (Lamp), Thursday, 17 March 2011 03:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like how the racist girl has an "epiphany" midway through the video that maybe these people are trying to get in touch with family affected by the tsunami, and then she has to awkwardly navigate around the fact that she just undercut her own argument.

accredited butter grader and dairy technologist (reddening), Thursday, 17 March 2011 04:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

our library was gross--a disastrous monument to 60s concrete architecture and a place without a single soft surface--so in general i just got in and out asap.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 March 2011 04:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol i just found out that a couple of local music people i know (one of whom is a white rapper who released an album with 'wigger' in the title) have a podcast called "Is This Racist?"

some dude, Thursday, 17 March 2011 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

apparently the girl is quitting UCLA.

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was supposed to be fake/ironic/parody... She's real?!

hey jelixy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 March 2011 21:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha doesnt seem that unbelievable to me tbh

D-40, Saturday, 19 March 2011 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

thats a sad 'haha'

D-40, Saturday, 19 March 2011 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

why would this be unbelievable in any fashion?

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

we're talking about a country where a professional LPGA golfer once asked the LPGA to limit the number of Asian golfers allowed on tour once because she "they had a lack of emotion and didn't attempt to speak English". not surprising at all.

sometimes magic sounds like tape (San Te), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

white people at the UCs are pretty horrible

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

white people at the UCs are pretty horrible

sometimes magic sounds like tape (San Te), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

at the uc I went to a shitload of white ppl in the engineering dept would refer to asians as changers

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

like if something needed to be done, they were like "lets just get a changer to do it"

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

she'd fit in better at usc anyway

iatee, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp hilarious obv but I mean

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

uh oh - what uc has a shitload of white ppl in the engineering department??

iatee, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol I actually had a post clarifying that point

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

by shitload of white ppl in the engineering dept I meant a shitload OF the white ppl in the engineering dept

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if wallace was a transfer student

iatee, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

as in did her GE at community college rather than entered as a freshman?

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

right

iatee, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

what makes you wonder that?

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

not used to a high number of asians in a library?

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are a lot of Asians at CA community colleges. Library facilities aren't as good, though.

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

what makes you wonder that?

cause she is an idiot and it's a bit easier for an idiot to transfer to UCLA than get in from hs.

(not saying everyone who transfers is an idiot!)

iatee, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

is UCLA hard to get into?

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

goofy but made me laugh:

hipster bluppies (symsymsym), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

huh - there were quite a few idiots from my hs who went there.

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

honestly i have no idea if ucla is hard to get into -- i always assumed it was tho, at least second hardest after berkley

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe they've changed their requirements significantly, but i don't remember any UC school's undergrad admission requirements being really challenging.

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

from hs it's pretty hard in-state. uc admissions are weird tho, I know a girl who got into barnard, columbia, brown, forgot what else, but she didn't get into UCLA. (she was hispanic fwiw, and UCs don't do affirmative action, at least not de facto)

it's very, very hard out of state / nearing elite private school selective if you're trying from out of state.

more students apply to it than any other school in the country.

but it also has the most transfers of the UCs and there's even a guaranteed transfer agreement with...santa monica cc iirc?

iatee, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

and UCs don't do affirmative action, at least not de facto

oh yeah, that was because of some other dumb ballot measure we passed.

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

eventually that's gonna hurt white ppl tho, so lol

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

never underestimate the stupidity of Californians when it comes to state ballot measures.

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 22:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I literally know multiple white girls who got into berkeley's engineering program because they were white girls. I mentioned this upthread but at lots of schools (not just the UCs) there really is affirmative action for white people at this point in that they'll be picked over a similarly qualified asian kid.

iatee, Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

we're talking about a country where a professional LPGA golfer once asked the LPGA to limit the number of Asian golfers allowed on tour once because she "they had a lack of emotion and didn't attempt to speak English". not surprising at all.

― sometimes magic sounds like tape (San Te), Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:08 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this was an Australian btw

so was the one who made homophobic comments: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/sport/rawson-rattles-a-few-cages/1427445.aspx

gr8080, Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

California is probably due for yet another racist ballot measure, trying to remember the last one.

sarahel, Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

you don't have to look v hard to find a racist/homophobic australian xp

What-Diana-faked-death-living-false-identity-small-town-America (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Australians are just Americans with almost-British accents.

thirdalternative, Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

And fewer guns.

Guess Rawson will have to go on WS of shame now

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha I was just about to say that. I saw her IRL two days after that story broke. So many conflicted feelings, such a babe.

gr8080, Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually witnessed her reading an apology to the rest of the LPGA members!!!

gr8080, Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

that jimmy song makes me uncomfortable

dayo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 00:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

its getting catchy tho

dayo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 00:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was a community college transfer into ucla. my cc also had a "guaranteed admission" system that operated through their honors program. you took a certain curriculum, maintained a certain gpa, etc. i wouldn't be surprised if many/most california cc's had a similar program.

anyway at no point was i made to take a class called "how not to be a stupid fucking racist" before i transfered, so that was probably the problem.

accredited butter grader and dairy technologist (reddening), Sunday, 20 March 2011 07:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanks for the insider info

gr8080, Sunday, 20 March 2011 12:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

i got rejected from ucla

max, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

got into ucsc tho

max, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i couldve been a banana slug

max, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Racism means the cute and funny "Ting Tong" guy has already had his fifteen minutes. If he were white yer white grandma would be picking up his mass produced CD at Target right about now.

Being Sorry Isn't Important When You're a Professional (u s steel), Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

another cultural insight from ilx poster u s steel

gr8080, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Who gets more attention, ditzy white girl we can laugh at or videos by Asians or Asian-Americans responding to it? Why are people paying attention to this video? There are far crueller things on the internet with regard to Asians and Affirmative Action programs, they're just not produced by young blonde students with visible boobs.

Being Sorry Isn't Important When You're a Professional (u s steel), Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

u s steel do you have visible boobs

dayo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

The subject is racism, let's stick to the topic.

Maybe Tomorrow You'll Be Sorry (u s steel), Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

gr8080, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Friday, 29 April 2011 06:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

hololy shit

shamefully blowable (latebloomer), Friday, 29 April 2011 06:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

how is this not Tim & Eric

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Friday, 29 April 2011 06:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

place doesn't exist, it's from this show called PLEA BARGAIN ADVERTISING

it is his "enigmatic signifier" (the table is the table), Friday, 29 April 2011 06:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

weak

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Friday, 29 April 2011 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

old

gr8080, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's the same comedian who does the puddin' skits i posted on dam,agecontrlolz

diamonddave85, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

am0n, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

am0n, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

rolling is this terrifying thread

don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I WANT ONE

it always seems to have dick smith in it (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 April 2011 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't really notice until recently, but bunch of white guys in a band called "Black Lips" kind of skeeves me out a little?

bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 2 May 2011 22:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

it would be better if they were goth

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Monday, 2 May 2011 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's the same comedian who does the puddin' skits i posted on dam,agecontrlolz

eddie pepitone

jeff, Monday, 2 May 2011 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

didn't really notice until recently, but bunch of white guys in a band called "Black Lips" kind of skeeves me out a little?

Wasn't there a rap group called "Young Black Men" (or something like that) whose members were all white?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 06:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think you mean these guys:

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 07:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^ search: plead the fifth

misty sensorium (Plasmon), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 08:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^Not obviously racist, more of a harmless impersonation...unless you're aware that Bad Boy Furniture is owned by Mel Lastman, former mayor of Toronto, and of his unique attempt to bring the 2008 Olympic Games to the city:

http://sports.ca.msn.com/other/photos/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=25934927&page=4

I was bored/trolling one day (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 09:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

WASS A MENCH?!

gr8080, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

"That's why I'm here..." (at your dry cleaning shop)

it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

"You know, so many people in this distri-"
"I'M KOREAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

del griffith, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tommy Wiseau directed that political advertisement

Mordy, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Knock knock."
"Who's there?"
"Interrupting Korean."
"Interrupting Kore-"
"I'M KOREAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

del griffith, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

dying

it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

'we minorities shld stick 2gether' - some korean

Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

racial puppetry in left-wing commercials

del griffith, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

also not doing much for the 'jewish dudes love azn girls' stereotype

Pippa's Farce (Lamp), Friday, 13 May 2011 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

"You know, so many people in this distri-"
"I'M KOREAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

― del griffith, Saturday, 14 May 2011 09:37 (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

utterly losing my shit over this

handy multi-bicycle parking station from available materials (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

outbursts very much in koreacter

"I like to wear tops that show my cleavage and show off my ladies," (sic), Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

"I have issues!"

Rofflellzee (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 14 May 2011 00:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty certain I know the answer to this, but I'd love to hear what the Elizabethans think.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

all things considered that can isn't nearly as bad as it could be

still back on that ad, tho

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

To be fair, there is another version of the can:

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

OMG THAT AD!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

THAT'S LIGHTWEIGHT DICKERY (dayo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm wondering exactly how hard dude's wife punched him in the neck after she saw that ad

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

omfg @ Dan Adler commercial

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

IM KOREAN

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

otm

THAT'S LIGHTWEIGHT DICKERY (dayo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

"You're Jewish!"
"My family is Jewish."

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

ad really delivers maximum wtf per cubic second

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

dude looks like george clooneyi mo

THAT'S LIGHTWEIGHT DICKERY (dayo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

iirc darkie isn't considered racist in sth africa for some reason (they have Darkie clothing shops there: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17645356469&_fb_noscript=1)

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

buzza, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sally Shapiro (from Borough Park) (buzza), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 04:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

google image search for "gangsta lean"

gr8080, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 04:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think South Africa's kinda voided their right to tell me what is or isn't racist.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 05:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think South Africa's kinda voided their right to tell me what is or isn't racist.

― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 15:16 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 05:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

(asking "is this racist", not agreeing with it)

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 05:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm just saying, Apartheid only ended like 15 years ago, I'm sure they have plenty of fucked-up attitudes about what's racist.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 06:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

biggest attitude they're dealing with atm is the world still thinking they're all racist

百万个叉烧包 (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 06:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you mark the Fair Housing Act of 1968 as the end of legislated racism in America then South Africa have only been at the whole equality game for half as long as the USA. "American racism only ended like 42 years ago, I'm sure they have plenty of fucked up attitudes about what's racist."

4, 5, 6, The monkey's got a hockey stick (aldo), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 06:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

R.I.P. Racism

gr8080, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 07:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was a good run

contenderizer, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 07:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

gr8080, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 07:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

As for Dan Adler, the Hollywood executive whose ads went viral online with such slogans as "We Minorities Should Stick Together," and "Dan Adler: He Gets Shit Done," with his young son declaring that "my dad gets shit done" -- he got only 285 votes, for 0.5%. It looks like maybe he doesn't "get shit done."

buzza, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aw, that's too bad.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Your search - "judeo-korean hegemony" - did not match any documents.

buzza, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shocked, shocked, to see someone from Southaven on there.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 20 May 2011 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Aw, pwsnt.com shut down!

Morley Timmons, Sunday, 26 June 2011 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Official bi-weekly published by the Arkansas Farm Bureau

http://arfb.com/news_information/front-porch/PDF/fpjuly11.pdf

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

(I couldn't find the "rolling 'this is racist!' thread".)

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

bi-monthly, I should've said.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

the kicker is "cool watermelon recipes"

that should upset me but I'm am holding back guffaws

she choots, she pah! (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

URL on the cover is an anagram of www.barf.com

BIG HOOBA aka the stankdriver (Phil D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

there doesn't seem to be a single element in that photo that couldn't have existed 50 or 100 yrs ago

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, aside from the black prison guard on horseback.

I'm trying to reconcile in my mind the person at the photo shoot who said, "Uh, maybe we should get a black officer on the horse instead of Bubba Stanley," with the designer back at the office who said, Now where are we going to promote the watermelon recipes?

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmmmn yeah maybe

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

when did it become legal/normal/etc for prisons to employ black officers

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

1992.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

J0rdan S., Friday, 22 July 2011 08:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

rawr

dayo, Friday, 22 July 2011 12:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

the coverage of her is full of shit, described as 'power behind the throne' as if rupe was some harmless genial old fuck before his brain was CONTROLLED BY AZN AMAZON WOMAN

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Friday, 22 July 2011 12:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anything to distract attention from hacking phones and blanket media power. Anything at all

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 22 July 2011 22:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

noticed the front page of telegraph today 'how tiger wives defend their husbands' or something.

owenf, Friday, 22 July 2011 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

chawki (buzza), Saturday, 6 August 2011 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

somehow the idea of a "chicken, ham, and cheese burger" is the most offensive part of that.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 23:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess the first question is, "does it look like a chapelle's show skit?"

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

in case u missed buzza's youtube from a few days ago before it got taken down, its at the end of this news story about said youtube:

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

this Asian guy seemed a little "over the edge" (although I actually loved these commercials)

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't even get what he was even trying to say unless he was just being blatantly racist

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

just a really horribly formed joke?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol @ moby as arbiter of the genuine

among other things

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

moby is truly the worst

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

hope he gets gilbert godfrey'd for this

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, moby isn't actually doing anything

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

that is a classic example of how Twitter is terrible

you are not talking to your friends in private, you are blasting nonsense out to everyone on Earth

stop it

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

guys hop on my new trending topic: http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23mobyisaracist

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Seriously, Moby should not be allowed access to a keyboard (computer or musical).

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 02:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, moby isn't actually doing anything

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:34 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

moby was the new aflac duck :-/

thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 02:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can't wait to hear his shitty, ill-formed "justification".

"I like black people! Remember that video I did with the fake gold teeth and Gwen Stefani? ... What's that? That's not helping?"

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 02:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Maybe Moby's NASA gig in 1992 will be cancelled.

errant flynn, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait...moby is the new aflac duck?

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes.

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, that's why eminem says "nobody purchases AFLAC" on his single w/ royce da 5' 9" and bruno mars

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

you almost had me until royce da 59

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

errant flynn, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

if you'd said 'buys' instead of 'purchases' . . .

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, no, no... i wasnt saying its absurd that black women should be in MoMa... i was just saying its so lol that MILLIONAIRE JAY-Z RAPPED ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE PROJECTS

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

moby never heard that saying about "when you're in a hole", obv

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

racist guy just thinking baout things

buzza, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Gr80 when will P4k interview you about ruining Moby's career? lol, good work man!

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

the new hood, i guess.

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can't wait to hear his shitty, ill-formed "justification".

me otm, even though it wasn't quite as great as I hoped it would be... it was still worth seeing him dig a deeper hole

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Very suspicious of folks who address the world as "people."

"Okay, PEOPLE. You misheard me.

"Um, PEOPLE, hello?"

"PEOPLE, U know what I'm sayin."

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/oOVzi.png

no, no, no... i wasnt saying its absurd that black women should be in MoMa... i was just saying its so lol that MILLIONAIRE JAY-Z RAPPED ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE PROJECTS

― ( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:26 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

god, what an idiot

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Moby
@thelittleidiot why does my <3 feel so sad?

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i hate to be cap'n save a moby, but i've had lots of convos with dude and everything points to the fact that dude seriously likes rap music. i think he was just making a dumb joke about the subject matter and it came off wrong.

Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

When I talk about white supremacy in this context, I am talking about the ability of white people to move further in virtually every sphere of US life due to their whiteness. Do you think it is a coincidence that Moby’s appearance on a recent cover of ‘Wired’ is set against an all-white background with only parts of his face peeking through the monochromatic cover? Why, in a recent issue of the UK magazine, ‘Muzik’, is Moby shown on the cover with a white T-shirt, on a white background, holding a wand that radiates bright white light? These are the representational practices that continually consolidate white supremacy.

One could make the claim that Moby just worked hard, produced a lot of tracks, refined his style, and moved beyond ‘dance music’ to create an entirely new genre. In other words, he was just good at what he did and his talent was recognized. That claim is without merit. Yes, he worked hard and actually made some good rave tracks for Instinct in the early ‘90s. He subsequently moved on and fashioned full-length albums which won him praise. ‘Play’ made the top ten on a number of critics’ year-end lists in 2001. Was this album ‘adventurous’, ‘ground-breaking’, or ‘innovative’? No. There are eighteen-year old artists in the projects of Houston’s 5th Ward who made ‘electronic’ records in the same year so profoundly experimental, their influence won’t be understood for years. (This is the phenomenon of ‘screwed & chopped’ music, which I’ve not the space to talk about yet).

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Moby
@thelittleidiot thats when i reach for my revolver

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

guys, his comment can't be racist... whiney has met him!!!

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

You mean

@thelittleidiot that's when I tell her that it's over.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol oh yeah sorry, good luck usa

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think he tells her that it's over when black people talk about MoMa

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

guys, his comment can't be racist... whiney has met him!!!

― ☝ (am0n), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:38 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

lol

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

i hate to be cap'n save a moby, but i've had lots of convos with dude and everything points to the fact that dude seriously likes rap music. i think he was just making a dumb joke about the subject matter and it came off wrong.

― Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:37 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

for someone that loves rap music, he apparently has no idea what jay-z had rapped about since like 2003

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

he can't be racist… he likes rap music!

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

cap'n pitch-a-fit-over-every-lil-racist-thing-except-when-its-a-famous-musician-youve-had-"convos"-with

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, growing up in a small town in the middle of cornfields I can definitively confrom that "liking rap music" and "being racist" are not mutually exclusive.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

"confirm" damnit

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

a small town in the middle of confirm?

dogps (some dude), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

that routine's kind of losing its luster, al

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

"kind of"

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i didn't realize it was a routine! i was just joking about the fact that my eyes played tricks on me when i saw jon's correction and then saw there were two words that started with "conf" in the previous post. sorry if you guys think i'm being overly jokey or obnoxious or something, i wasn't trying to be mean or snarky, just off the cuff and silly.

dogps (some dude), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I didn't think it was snarky or mean, just "kind of" a played out meme on ilx in general.

Anyway, lets focus on the important issue at hand - racist, vegan electronic musicians.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Then you got the Beastie Boys rapping about Boggle. I guess all the frat guys are into puzzle games now? LOL.

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

what meme was that? sorry idgi

dogps (some dude), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.moby.com/journal/2000-10-16/racism.html

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

racism.html

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

people who have had convos with moby about rap music

dogps (some dude), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thats a lot of white people, suspect.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't know. I think I spot a Malaysian piano in the middle somewhere.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Chris Rock says he's not a racist, so I trust him. Dude knows a lot about racism.

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

i highly doubt that moby is a racist. but he did say some at least quasi-racist shit in those two tweets.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

well the second one is less racist and more "i have no clue about rap music"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

eat my ass, am0n

Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

would am0n be able to say he's a "convo" with you after this exchange

dogps (some dude), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

WE GOT A GREAT BIG CONVO ROCKIN THROUGH THE NIGHT

Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

though asking Chris Rock "am I racist?" gives me the same feeling as Eminem dueting with Elton John to quell all the "homophobic" talk

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

my dad told me off cos when i was 7 i thought the chorus was "We're gonna drive this fuckin convoy/Cross the USA"

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

though asking Chris Rock "am I racist?" gives me the same feeling as frogbs IMing calum to quell all the "troll" talk

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

+ =

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

dave cool getting pretty butthurt itt

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

fyi, all i was trying to say is that moby was like making sure Nikki D was getting work in 1999 and going out of his way to work with Public Enemy in the '00s, and writes mad royalty checks to Spoonie G, and I'm guessing his relationship with rap music is a little deeper than "LOL BLACK PPL TALKIN BOUT THE HOOD"

Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

but please keep trying to suzy me, am0n

Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i thought moby was black

michael, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

you're thinking of rog from what's happening

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't think you have to be a card-carrying racist to make the occasional clumsy unfunny racially stereotyped tweet

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

... but it doesn't hurt!

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

(sorry)

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dan i'd already thought of that punchline then i forgot to do it

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

the moby symbol is actually a broken swastika

I thought that I heard you loling, I thought that I heard you steen (crüt), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

but please keep trying to suzy me, am0n

― Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:37 PM

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

moby: "i don't care if you're black, white, green, blue man group.."

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

even the whale was white

dogps (some dude), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

is 'oi vey' the kind of music that jewdriver plays?

Mordy, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

xpost LMFAO

Erin Go! Bwaaaah!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

going out of his way to work with Public Enemy in the '00s

You make it sound like he was doing them a favor.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

well tbh

smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

I refuse to post the Custosesque Moby going out of his way to work with Flavor Flav dialogue going on in my head right now.

you're welcome, ilx.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

to be a fly on the wall

smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty sure Eric Clapton's not racist, he's played loads of black people's music

MoMA said knock you out (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Elvis Costello hangs out in New Orleans and I mean

smells like PENGUINS (remy bean), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

did he write mad royalty checks to muddy waters

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't invoke my name to justify your petty internecine shit, please.

It's dumb (and ironic) for Moby to josh about rappers in museums or whatever because he's definitely been the rich popstar invited to the art dinner purely because some gallerist or collector thought they were being edgy in 2001. I think he was doing that thing of speaking with complacency because a) he's 45 and b) until this moment he was operating under the misapprehension that he had one of those elusive 'free passes' - in any case it is not an appropriate joke and I'm disappointed.

murdoch most foul (suzy), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

☝ (am0n), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

why... why are they making those faces

what is the boogie doing to them

CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

for someone that loves rap music, he apparently has no idea what jay-z had rapped about since like 2003

A charitable interpretation might be that Moby was just musing about how far Jay-Z had come, that rapping about MoMA was the apotheosis of an ongoing trend.

jaymc, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

that is a classic example of how Twitter is terrible

you are not talking to your friends in private, you are blasting nonsense out to everyone on Earth

stop it

― CLUB PISCOPO (DJP), Tuesday, August 9, 2011 3:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've had lots of convos with some dude and everything points to the fact that some dude seriously likes rap music.

full on... mask hysteria (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

A charitable interpretation might be that Moby was just musing about how far Jay-Z had come, that rapping about MoMA was the apotheosis of an ongoing trend.

― jaymc, Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:08 PM (1 hour ago)

nahhhhh can't be!

tine nic (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

"It's over, frizz-head," chanted hundreds of jubilant men and women massed in Green Square, using a mocking nickname of the curly-haired Qaddafi.

too soon?

tremendoid, Monday, 22 August 2011 03:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

though asking Chris Rock "am I racist?" gives me the same feeling as frogbs IMing calum to quell all the "troll" talk

wait what

Circlesquare du Soleil (sic), Monday, 22 August 2011 03:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was a stupid analogy based on frogbs being a horrible troll.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 22 August 2011 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

did this get talked about at all?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Monday, 22 August 2011 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy shit

little mushroom person (abanana), Monday, 22 August 2011 04:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

yo @ that

 (gr8080), Monday, 22 August 2011 05:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

more like lolling "is this racist?" if you ask me

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Monday, 22 August 2011 05:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

yo @ that

―  (gr8080), Monday, August 22, 2011 1:55 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Chad Kroeger of Nickelback...in my vagina? (crüt), Monday, 22 August 2011 06:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

WTF

I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 August 2011 12:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

darlie: don't, surf

joe, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

 (gr8080), Monday, 22 August 2011 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw nivea pulled that ad and apologies but yikes

http://www.facebook.com/NIVEAusa/posts/10150269379106295

 (gr8080), Monday, 22 August 2011 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

ladies and gentlemen, australia!

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2011 22:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Surf thing is Sth Africa btw.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 22 August 2011 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh alright n/m

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2011 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

guys that eric church song

 (gr8080), Monday, 22 August 2011 22:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

can i just

yikes

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 22 August 2011 23:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah woah

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 August 2011 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

if only black ppl would stop their life of crimes and come bale some hay on eric church's farm....real sad, bill cosby was right

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 August 2011 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahah otm

 (gr8080), Monday, 22 August 2011 23:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

A little IM convo I had with my severely misguided co-worker after he sent me this link:
http://www.callofduty.com/xp (Kanye going to be performing at some Call of Duty event)

Me: cool

Him: i think it's gay as a french trombone

uh, well ok

not at all what i want to hear at that event

your loss pal, dude knows how to rock a crowd

i guess
he beat a woman
the fact that we place him on a pedestal after that amazes me
actually, it disgusts me

what are you talking about?

either way, he was a douche nozzle and acted like a moron on stage with Taylor Swift
so i'm disgusted either way

chris brown was the beater
kanye is just arrogant

so they're both total douches

nah thats another level
that taylor swift thing was top notch
laughs for days

disrespectful is what it was … just another piece of gutter trash that got money and got famous … zero. class.

GUTTER TRASH?
walking a fine line there buddy, learn what your talking about
GUTTER TRASH!?
dude comes from a normal middle class fam

well he still acted like gutter trash and continues to do so in nearly every instance i have seen him on video

he's a pompous pop star, nothing new man

i don't ever recall him doing anything to HELP society …

not like your looking

but i guess the masses will pay money for whatever … doesn't matter the quality of the individual producing it

youve gotta be kidding me
cant believe u even make that argument

he's one in a list of thousands
dude, hollywood is FULL of that crap

ya so

you're forgetting, i would happily have california break off into the ocean … the country would be better off … a lot of innocent people would wash away in the process, but the greater good that would come from it would be worth it

Straight Outta Bill Compton (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

my point is just that we know that the internet is terrible, we don't need it to be solemnly pointed out that people are racist

― J0rdan S., Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:48 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

schmendrick lamar (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

those surf ads are obvious shops right?

beth (crüt), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think it's real.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

the text does not line up with the margins of the page and looks like someone just typed it directly on the image

beth (crüt), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Those are 100% shops, there's no way the print on the ads would be that crisp and bright when everything else is faded. I mean, has it been that long since you guys have seen a real newspaper?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

ive seen pixels etc

 (gr8080), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

just to clarify, if they had photoshop blackfaced Tom Brady I'm sure a lot of people would have a problem with it

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

OH MY GOD

how is this guy still around?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

uhhh what exactly is bannable about that in the rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

i'd hate to see what happens to you when you get exposed to any other areas of the internet

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Its just that you are constantly bringing up race in the worst possible ways. You do know how ridiculous the "but you know if a white guy did this it would be bad, right?" line of argument is right?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd hate to see what happens to you when you get exposed to any other areas of the internet

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:45 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

so your defense is basically "just bringing you a lil bit of that 4chan experience, right here on ilx! *winks at the camera*"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

explain the context of vickwhite.jpg to me

little mushroom person (abanana), Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

The 4Chan Experience has an EP coming out on XL, right

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

frogbs walks up to a random person and hits him in the knee with a tire iron. the person, crumpled on the ground, writhing in pain, looks up at frogbs and says, "WHAT THE FUCK, MAN????". frogbs responds, "jeez, i'd hate to see what happens when you get exposed to the russian mafia"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok, there's no way that's the "worst possible way", that's not even close to the worst thing that can be said about that picture. but yeah that's a pretty standard line of thinking. i thought exploring the differences between how certain races are treated in the media was kinda the point of this thread?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

explain the context of vickwhite.jpg to me

was posted on ESPN the magazine

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

so your defense is basically "just bringing you a lil bit of that 4chan experience, right here on ilx! *winks at the camera*"

stop being stupid, why the hell should I defend myself for suggesting there's no way in hell they'd reverse the roles here

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Remember that time everyone thought Arnold Schwarzeneggar and Val Kilmer's love child killed his wife and a waiter?

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm not saying that you shouldn't, i'm just saying that defending yourself in any fashion by saying "jeez you must really hate the COMPLETE racist trolls on the internet" is prob not helping your case

xp

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyway i don't think we need to go over why blackface is offensive and whiteface is really not, but ymmv

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

explain the context of vickwhite.jpg to me

my first thought was that that was a manequin of Brian Austin Green in a football uniform

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

no but reacting to something like that with "OH MY GOD HOW ARE YOU STILL HERE" raises a couple of eyebrows and kinda explains why the IA thread is like 500000 posts

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyway i don't think we need to go over why blackface is offensive and whiteface is really not, but ymmv

so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

How is it not 51 yet?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's really too bad you can't sb from zing touch

Clay, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

jon you really are the worst

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?

racial politics are a continuum, there's no "one size fits all" policy. historical power dynamics are involved.

why am I bothering...

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

i...need to stop doing this, but frogbs are you saying that brian austin green mike vick is offensive to white people somehow?

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

there is that painful centuries-long tradition of depicting white men with goatees i guess

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmm

they BAG'ed Michael Vick

maybe that's what that line in "Bedrock" was talking about?

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

brian austin green mike vick!

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

so exactly where are you drawing the line here.

It's behind you.

arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

frogbs thinks I'm the worst, feel like I should get a badge to wear with pride or something

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

i...need to stop doing this, but frogbs are you saying that brian austin green mike vick is offensive to white people somehow?

actually I kinda think it may be more offensive to black people

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay, then you didn't need to frame it in opposition to blackface

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

racial politics are a continuum, there's no "one size fits all" policy. historical power dynamics are involved.

why am I bothering...

well, yeah, I'm just wondering if a national publication bringing up this sort of thing at all is just in bad taste even if the image itself isn't really going to offend anyone. they've already taken it off their website and the author of the article is going nuts on twitter trying to distance himself from it.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would sb espn the magazine too if I could fwiw

Clay, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

so your defense is basically "just bringing you a lil bit of that 4chan experience, right here on ilx! *winks at the camera*"

or like, literally any other message board but this one

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?

do you really not get it or do you just like it when people call you stupid? do you not recognize that in every context we'll likely be discussing, white people stand in a position of distinct advantage with respect to power dynamics? do you not see how that renders all your "how come it's offensive this way but not that way?" framings might seem remarkably stupid in light of said dynamics? dude seriously. just go fucking study this stuff someplace. it isn't hard.

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay, so basically, "its okay to clown people if they have the power advantage over you"

i mean, you do understand that that really wasn't my point at all, and that i'm not arguing that whiteface is offensive to white people for whatever reason. and of course, you can and have taken liberties yourself to try and make me look dumb, but I'm not saying "how does this relate to white people" there at all, I mean I know it sorta ruins your diatribe there but seriously, even you can think of some scenario in which this dynamic doesn't really exist, can't you? i'm saying the idea of photoshopping any race into any other race is something that probably shouldn't be done on a national stage since it really does call these issues to mind and is going to be looked upon poorly even if the general concept of picturing Vick as a white guy isn't going to ruffle any feathers.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Guys, what if frogbs was black.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thnk about it.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

just to clarify, if they had photoshop blackfaced Tom Brady I'm sure a lot of people would have a problem with it

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:39 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark

so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:10 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

do you see how if you post the above, your rhetoric sounds a lot like trolling "how come it's only okay to call out racism against black people" stuff, right? add that to your posting history. honestly, your language when you post about race itt is vague and sounds like you're uncomfortable and confused: "certain races" "call these issues to mind" and if you're not trolling, i think aero is right and you should maybe just learn some more.

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

even you can think of some scenario in which this dynamic doesn't really exist, can't you?

what dynamic are you referring to here?

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

What if frogbs was black... in my vagina?

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Do you really want me to go into detail there? If we asked, what if Ichiro was from the Dominican Republic, and then photoshopped him as such, what would the response be? It sounds like racist trolling because that's what you've conditioned yourself to think.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

smdh at frogbs getting into the exact same tizzy every single week and then going all "what? what did I do?"

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

it sounds like racist trolling because it's rhetoric one million racist trolls have employed before

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

It sounds like racist trolling because that's what you've conditioned yourself to think.

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i'm glad that we've entered the full OPEN YOUR EYES, SHEEPLE portion of the thread

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

even you can think of some scenario in which this dynamic doesn't really exist, can't you?

I can also imagine a world in which giraffes can sing. however, said world doesn't really inform the choices I make in how I express myself, because that world is fantasy-land.

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

It isn't just this thread he's been pulling this stuff in either, though. He's managed to hang around surprisingly long.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

aero, you only think that giraffes can't sing because that's what you've conditioned yourself to think

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxxp - i mean really, does anyone have any arguments other than "you've posted questionable stuff before, therefore we must assume the worst of everything you've posted"?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

YOU DON'T HAVE AN ARGUMENT

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

smdh at frogbs getting into the exact same tizzy every single week and then going all "what? what did I do?"

send your thanks to the low-content brigade

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

you never have an argument just these pseudoprovocative observations

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

What if frogbs was black... in my vagina?

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

open your eyes. also stretch your necks.

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

YOU DON'T HAVE AN ARGUMENT

yes, you're right, ESPN must have just misplaced the .jpg, that's why they took it down

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

seriously frogbs you wanna save yourself some trouble? just take ~absolutely everybody~'s word for it that you don't know what you're talking about when the subject of race comes up. adopt a beginner's mind to the subject. assume that whatever you think, you're wrong, and cheerfully accept the group consensus about it.

or keep up your "racist? I'm just saying!" schtick and get banned again, it really doesn't matter, whatever floats your boat

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

they didn't take it down iirc

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

i meant all your "what if tom brady in blackface" "what if ichiro was dominican" eh? eh? deep thoughts

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

omg PP :-D

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

adopt a beginner's mind to the subject.

this is good advice for lots of things

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

they took it down then put it back up when everyone was like "uh, you can't just pretend that you put up an illustration of michael vick as a white person"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

NEW TOPIC:

This class description is from from the local adult-education center.

In this course, we'll examine the impact of white privilege and how being unaware of that advantage helps perpetuate racism. We'll discuss short readings and share everyday situations in which we did not speak up against racial bias. Using role-plays, we'll develop effective ways to speak up. While this course welcomes everyone, its focus is on the role of white people in dismantling racism and building a just society. Participants will be guided in developing specific plans for challenging racism in their workplace, organizations, communities, or personal circles, and will be encouraged to seek out and develop relationships with people in their lives who can provide support and serve as allies in efforts to address racism. This workshop is participatory, with a variety of inspiring readings, video clips, and activities. Limited to 15.

In the course catalogue, there's a caveat after that copy: "While this class is open to anyone, it is particularly designed to help white people ... " or something like that. I mean, I just don't even know what to ...

a long time ago i used to be snush (remy bean), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahaha xp

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

aero - explain in your own words then why the pic was taken down, why it's such a big deal, and why the author tried so hard to distance himself from it. it's not ~absolutely everybody~, it's a selective group of white people with a tendency to make clusterfucks out of non-issues. in other words, maybe look around the internet a bit and see what they're saying?

i mean the thread title is "Is This Racist?" isn't it? shouldn't you be calling out every single poster in here if they're not sure?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

The title of the class is WHITE PEOPLE CONFRONTING RACISM

a long time ago i used to be snush (remy bean), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Point missed completely. Well done.

xp

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

aero - explain in your own words then why the pic was taken down, why it's such a big deal, and why the author tried so hard to distance himself from it. it's not ~absolutely everybody~, it's a selective group of white people with a tendency to make clusterfucks out of non-issues. in other words, maybe look around the internet a bit and see what they're saying?

lol you're hopeless. "look around the internet, maybe listen to some racists? there are places that don't ban people for racist garbage, go hear what those people have to say!"

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

buzza, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

ahh. so it's everyone ELSE who has the problem. deadspin is racist. every sports message board is racist. ESPN is racist. the author of that article was a racist. i think this actually explains a lot of your posts.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

changing the dude's skincolor was always gonna be controversial. race is quite the issue, frogbs. but your arguments here were terrible, and they routinely are, which is why ppl don't like them, and sometimes you.

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Black face is offensive because it was used for several generations to depict ppl as inferior and also because minstrel shows were a smokescreen to appropriate and profit from cultural modes, such as dance and song, that were otherwise too scary.

The long and storied history of whiteface can basically consists of 'White Chicks' to my knowledge and anybody with the remaining privilege attached to being white in this country should probably not bother to be offended or pretend to be offended by that, though I wouldn't necessarily recommend actually paying money to see it.

I understand where you're coming from, frogs, but context is inescapable and pointless provocation is as annoying as pretending not to understand what the fuss is about, so motive is immaterial.

The shop is not great and the writer asked them not to title it 'What if Michael Vick were white?' A little controversy might sell a few more papers, though.

listening to the church bells, eating buttered toast with cunty (Michael White), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ok - I seriously do know why black face is offensive and why white face is not. My question is, since that's the case, why the hell was such a big deal made out of the image? My guess was that it sort of begs the question, but yeah I guess not

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like how you disappeared everybody who's not white from this board too - priceless, classic frogbs

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

also that's not what "begs the question" means you incredibly stupid person

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think if you stopped being aggressive and confused about race and dialed it down to just confused, you'd run into less trouble here, frogbs

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ok - I seriously do know why black face is offensive and why white face is not

get one history book

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

dont you think for one second that i don't open the WDYLL threads

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

also that's not what "begs the question" means you incredibly stupid person

there you go, you finally scored one

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

My question is, since that's the case, why the hell was such a big deal made out of the image? My guess was that it sort of begs the question, but yeah I guess not

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:55 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark

you keep shifting what your question is itt for what it's worth. makes it seem like you don't really have a question/issue/argument, you're just trying to start shit/on a one-man mission to save ilx's soul from the forces of "political correctness" or whatever

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

it is quite telling that nobody's even had a go at the original question here

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

if you count up the ones you didn't get because you're too stupid my score'd be higher but I get how yr condition precludes the math

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

T/F frogbs, you have uttered the phrase "political correctness gone too far" more than once irl.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

adopt a beginner's mind to the subject.

This is completely on the money by the way. I sort of feel for u on here frogbs, god knows why. You won't catch me clicking suggest ban for you. And you don't seem a troll or racist to me. But you seem to be crashing in the same car all the bloody time, and when people call you out on it, or even give you a context you don't see because you lack the knowledge about things like this, you become a querulant, highly defensive and foolishly stubborn.

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

you keep shifting what your question is itt for what it's worth.

no, it's always been "does the theoretical reversal of roles here explain why this was such a shitstorm"

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

briefly: historically white people asserted their authority/power over black people by caricaturing/ridiculing/controlling their image in popular culture using a variety of tools, one of which was blackface.

no dynamic wherein the respective roles of black and white people were reversed has ever existed

xp

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

your "original question" was a picture of brian austin green followed by this post:

just to clarify, if they had photoshop blackfaced Tom Brady I'm sure a lot of people would have a problem with it

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

it is quite telling that nobody's even had a go at the original question here

no, it isn't. this is what racists say when they get called on their bullshit: "very interesting that nobody wants to address the question!" it's not interesting to anybody with a brain, though. (I'm glad you think commenters at sports blog count as the fucking intelligentsia though, that's pretty illuminating.) the actual question is "why do you think it's ok to swing in here with racist 'what if the roles were reversed?' garbage?"

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxp as in, no question but the thread title, and the context on which I am guessing it caused shitstorm

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

guys, let's all take a step back and remember what's really important here

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, this is why you're getting hammered:

just to clarify, if they had photoshop blackfaced Tom Brady I'm sure a lot of people would have a problem with it

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

every sports message board is racist.

pretty much?

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, it isn't. this is what racists say when they get called on their bullshit: "very interesting that nobody wants to address the question!" it's not interesting to anybody with a brain, though. (I'm glad you think commenters at sports blog count as the fucking intelligentsia though, that's pretty illuminating.) the actual question is "why do you think it's ok to swing in here with racist 'what if the roles were reversed?' garbage?"

i'm not saying they're intelligent, i'm saying cool it on all the low content race whining and make a fucking argument.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool shakey

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

do you not find that statement true, aero?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

frogbs do you not see the kernel of "black people are the real racists" within that post?

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

frogbs i think you're misunderstanding why it was a shitstorm in the first place

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's nothing inherently wrong with whiteface or blackface but pretending like the last 500 years haven't happened is nagl, frogs. Do you not see that?

listening to the church bells, eating buttered toast with cunty (Michael White), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's what i always think about you, froggie, you're the insists-on-rigorous-argumentation guy

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

no question but the thread title,

okay so your question is "is it racist for ESPN to publish a picture ow Michael Vick in whiteface"? My answer is eh kind of, insofar as (what I assume is) a bunch of non-black people treating a black man's skin color as a source of humor is pretty racist. I can't really fathom why anybody black would think putting Michael Vick in whiteface would be remotely entertaining/worthwhile/of interest to anybody, but hey I could be wrong I guess.

xp

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

a long time ago i used to be snush (remy bean), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm not saying they're intelligent, i'm saying cool it on all the low content race whining and make a fucking argument.

there is no call for anybody to make an argument when you swing in with clueless racist crap - why would anybody bother? you get the sb clicks you crave, everybody else gets to tell you that your racism is a drag, it's win/win

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Guys guys we just aren't "deep" enough to get on his level, what with all of our "low content race whining" and whatnot.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

frogbs do you not see the kernel of "black people are the real racists" within that post?

That's definitely not what I intended, but yeah now I'm starting to understand why you guys are getting so upset.

When I say "a lot of people would have a problem with it", I mean just that with no 'hidden subtext', I mean everyone regardless of race would find that pretty wrong.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

to COURAGEOUSLY address your question: i don't people were clutching their pearls because omg what an offensive image. i think it was mostly "if you're gonna write an article about imagining mike vick as a white person then do what you do, but it's weird, unnecessary and a bit too on the nose to actually photoshop the guy as a white person. nobody needs that, because if we were so inclined we could imagine such a thing in our heads. it seems very trolly."

J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

guys just fyi, those of you who're on the fence, stet recoded the board so clicking "sb" next to frogbs's login is just a way of acknowledging that you read his post - he gets a notification about it - his screen name is supposed to remind you to do it but I think some people are forgetting

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

low content race whining is the title of my memoir

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

do ppl really start sbing ppl the minute some shitstorm breaks out?

little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay so your question is "is it racist for ESPN to publish a picture ow Michael Vick in whiteface"? My answer is eh kind of, insofar as (what I assume is) a bunch of non-black people treating a black man's skin color as a source of humor is pretty racist. I can't really fathom why anybody black would think putting Michael Vick in whiteface would be remotely entertaining/worthwhile/of interest to anybody, but hey I could be wrong I guess.

I dont think the point was anything to spark controversy, which obviously it has
The question I guess is why, and my guess would be the whole question of role reversal that inevitably shows up whenever you do something like this
Maybe I'm just wrong on this?

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe. maybe you should take the hint from all the (admittedly unnecessary) ad hominems and walk away for now b/c this thread is obviously not going to be a substantive discussion in the way you want.

a long time ago i used to be snush (remy bean), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I only sb geir tbh

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't people were clutching their pearls because omg what an offensive image. i think it was mostly "if you're gonna write an article about imagining mike vick as a white person then do what you do, but it's weird, unnecessary and a bit too on the nose to actually photoshop the guy as a white person. nobody needs that, because if we were so inclined we could imagine such a thing in our heads. it seems very trolly."

Yeah I don't want to suggest it's something that's actually offensive, just more a thing where everyone can agree it's kind of in bad taste. Like yeah I don't think anybody's getting all uppity about that and I certainly don't want to suggest that I was.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

The question I guess is why,

I just told you why...? because it's non-black people using a black person's skin color as a source of humor/provocation. which is racist.

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

now, a white-person-in-blackface thing would be considerably MORE racist because of, as Michael White notes, the 500 years of history behind the practice

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah there's no such thing as whiteface really; that's why brian austin green's face up there doesn't signify much at all

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

which means "role reversal" doesn't seem like a precise enough description of whatever it is you're trying to get at, frogbs

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Michael White Vick

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

was that racist

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

which means "role reversal" doesn't seem like a precise enough description of whatever it is you're trying to get at, frogbs

well, my idea of it is that if there was no such thing as "blackface", this probably wouldn't have been such a big deal

I think it's the same reason why you wouldn't really see a word like honky or cracker printed in a derogatory sense in a magazine, it's not like any white people could be offended at them , it just opens up another can of worms that doesn't really sit well

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

in my vagina

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

you won't see honky or cracker printed in a derogatory sense in a magazine because those epithets have no weight for the same reason there's no such thing as whiteface.

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

THIS REMINDS ME OF WHEN FREDDIE GIBBS WAS BOASTING ABT BEING THE FIRST GANGSTA RAPPER SINCE NWA ON THE COVER OF LA WEEKLY, AND SPACEAGEHUSTLE WAS ALL LIKE FOOL U FORGOT ABT BRIAN AUSTIN GREENE

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol i am glad you're back

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, my idea of it is that if there was no such thing as "blackface", this probably wouldn't have been such a big deal

I think it's the same reason why you wouldn't really see a word like honky or cracker printed in a derogatory sense in a magazine, it's not like any white people could be offended at them , it just opens up another can of worms that doesn't really sit well

― frogbs, Friday, August 26, 2011 12:32 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love that this shit is coming so fast that neither of the following either merited attention as standouts:

in other words, maybe look around the internet a bit and see what they're saying? - somehow almost the actual antonym for 'crack open a book why don't you'

&

Like yeah I don't think anybody's getting all uppity about that and I certainly don't want to suggest that I was.

which you know just let's take this in one word at a time and see if we hit any problems along the way

(Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i can't tell if he says stuff like "uppity" on purpose or not!

horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes, I noticed that myself and cringed at its ineptitude.

giraffes have been heard making strange flutelike sounds! (Michael White), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

burn thread

little mushroom person (abanana), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

aw, you guys

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

up·pi·tyadjective /ˈəpətē/ 

1.Self-important; arrogant

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

"uppity" + "black"

Advanced search
About 1,100,000 results (0.25 seconds)

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

"uppity" + "white"
About 1,140,000 results (0.23 seconds)

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Countdown to Alma Cogan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

"uppity black"
About 62,800 results (0.19 seconds)

"uppity white"
About 21,900 results (0.20 seconds)

iatee, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, that just about proves it

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

"uppity negro"
About 156,000 results

"uppity asian"
About 591 results

iatee, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

On the first page of Google results for just plain "uppity"

Georgia GOP Congressman Calls Obama 'Uppity'

Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, a conservative Republican from Georgia, let slip today what critics have been saying is the subtext of many of the attacks on Barack Obama: He's "uppity."

According to The Hill, a Capitol Hill newspaper, Westmoreland was discussing Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's acceptance speech outside the House chamber today when he veered into his thoughts on Michelle and Barack Obama.

"Just from what little I've seen of her and Mister Obama, Senator Obama, they're a member of an elitist class individual that thinks that they're uppity," Westmoreland said.

When a reporter sought clarification on the racially loaded word, Westmoreland replied, "Uppity, yeah."

bentelec, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

RACIALLY LOADED WORD

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

IN ALL CAPS IN CASE FROGBS MISSED IT

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxxpost

c'mon man i'm trying to believe in the greater frogbs of our nature, don't do that

little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, but what you missed is that Obama is half-white

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

(that's the uppity part)

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

jeez man

little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

anigif of David Austin Green's head exploding unavailable, unfortunately

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, that just about proves it

it does, actually, is the thing

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

well i had no doubts that you were convinced

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

it sucks because i really thought you had a point before

frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know only the first one counts, but every time I click "suggest ban" on this racist asshole, it feels good anyway, so I keep right on doing it

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Suggesteban Frogbuttez

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

hey frogbs i just checked my planner and i have a lot of stuff i need to get done on Sept 25th so

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

can we talk...

ABOUT RACISM?

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

you mean blackface...

IS RACIST?

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

trolling is this racist thread

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

trollopping, in fact

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

frogbs uppity 'opping his way to the sb shop?

Kanye Borst (Kerm), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

challoppity, good spot

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Aero tone it down a bit, you're seriously about to climax all over this thread

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's been holding it in for about 20 mins since his last post then, i wouldn't begrudge him it tbh

Richter scale? I hardly even knew 'er! (darraghmac), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's guys who can't conceal how bad you're getting to them that I love best - keep the hits comin', frogbs

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw this is germane to the discussion

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

dog in spacesuit .gif

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

REPORTING FOR DUTY

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i meant the orange spacesuit

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

yo moonship every dog in a spacesuit is a special snowflake, wtf

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

what a world

Kanye Borst (Kerm), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

what if that one dog googles himself and gets to this thread and sees you hating on him - bad look, man

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

that dog lives in my house u bastard

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

i call bullshit on that since i am pretty sure you live neither in houston nor cape canaveral

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyway i think the more interesting question is what if michael vick had been involved in COCKFIGHTING

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

carne asada...in my vagina? (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

He has a family. Even his important work at NASA can't take that away from him.

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

carne asada...in my vagina? (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

william wegman + metro + public art + spacesuits = relevant 2 this thread somehow

carne asada...in my vagina? (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Henry would like to make it clear that he is not a racist btw

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 00:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

But rottweilers suck and never leave anything in the food dish

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyway i think the more interesting question is what if michael vick had been involved in COCKFIGHTING

WOW dude. i have some google results that may intrigue you

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

i remember when frogbs first started posting to ILM i was like hey cool, someone to talk about They Might Be Giants with. now when i see his display name i get "Your Racist Friend" stuck in my head.

some dude, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

The guy in that picture isn't the real Michael Vick, and what he's doing in that image isn't what we mean by "cockfighting" dude

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

all TMBG fans are pretty awkward, what do you expect

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean I bet some of them know that "uppity" is kind of a racist dog whistle in a lot of contexts and also don't argue by posting dictionary definitions

carne asada...in my vagina? (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

To be honest this is literally the first time I've heard that about the word having any kind of racial significance
I mean I know people say that about Obama but I've heard it used in a lot of different contexts
Like, it doesn't even make sense to use it in a "racially charged" way in that context

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes it does.

Clay, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

a lot of understanding relies on knowing the context #andnowyouknow

racist astronaut dog whistle (Kerm), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

To be honest this is literally the first time I've heard that about the word having any kind of racial significance
I mean I know people say that about Obama but I've heard it used in a lot of different contexts
Like, it doesn't even make sense to use it in a "racially charged" way in that context

― frogbs, Friday, August 26, 2011 1:33 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u are like the tuomas of american race relations

funky house septics (D-40), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw I don't get how I get jumped on for arguing by posting dictionary definitions when people are using google result count as an argument, which is possibly the only argument worse than a dictionary definition

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol I have literally never been happier to see D-40 arrive to a thread

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Neither is a great rhetorical tool, that's true. xp

boxall, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

what the hell are you all doing

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

engaging the poster known as frogbs. why?

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

is google search ok for rebuttal?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

― now I have to imagine your penis ... in my vagina (Karen JP)

a long time ago i used to be snush (remy bean), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw I don't get how I get jumped on for arguing by posting dictionary definitions when people are using google result count as an argument, which is possibly the only argument worse than a dictionary definition

― frogbs, Friday, August 26, 2011 1:41 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are u suffering from some form of autism. If someone says "cool!!" do u say "no its hot out!"

funky house septics (D-40), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I suppose I really can't throw stones since I stole a frogbs quote for a display name tho

xp: remy no

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

(maybe I should change that name anyway because it is kind of an odd coda to every post I make)

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think maybe

a long time ago i used to be snush (remy bean), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

never unimagine the penis

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

phantasmagoric castration: it's a thing

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not sure why this dn just occurred to me but

Thanafrogbs, by William Cullen Bryant (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

No wait this is better and is a poem I have actually read

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Into his uppity musings, with a mild
And uppity sympathy, that steals away
Their uppityness, ere he is aware. When thoughts
Of the last uppity hour come like a blight

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

aww

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Friday, 26 August 2011 01:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

are those supposed to be rap lyrics?

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes.

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was wondering. some of those words sound made up.

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

you're the best/worst sock puppet ever

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

def funniest today

racist astronaut dog whistle (Kerm), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't let the caul slip, frogbs.

come back to the five and dime remy bean, (remy bean), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

who wants to start a band with me called Frog Bullshit

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

frogbs, blight is definitely a word. as in, you are a blight upon this message board.

some dude, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Be kind and tender to the Frog,
And do not call him names,
As “Slimy skin,” or “Polly-wog,”
Or likewise “Ugly James,”
Or “Gap-a-grin,” or “Toad-gone-wrong,”
Or “Bill Bandy-knees”:
The Frog is justly sensitive
To epithets like these.
No animal will more repay
A treatment kind and fair;
At least so lonely people say
Who keep a frog (and, by the way,
They are extremely rare).

(Hilaire Belloc)

estela, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

u are like the tuomas of american race relations

yeah, there is another way like he's like tuomas

buzza, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

hes a chaki sockpuppet?

funky house septics (D-40), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

test test

fruogbas (some dude), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

As “Slimy skin,” or “Polly-wog,”

is this racist?

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

No but cf. "gollywog"

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

still not v hilar imo

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's not funny at all, but the bit at the end about how frog retention is very rare appealed to me.

estela, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was just punning on hilaire, i <3ed it

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

what a wonderful bird the frog are
he ain't got no sense hardly
he ain't got no tail hardly either
when he sit he sit on what he ain't got
almost

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 02:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Guys, all these frogbs display names are very funny, but it really is hell on my killfile.

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh well that's just shoddy coding, obvs the killfile script should only compare against usernames, not display names

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 02:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

first thought was

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Friday, 26 August 2011 03:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

jesus christ

fruogbas (some dude), Friday, 26 August 2011 03:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

should have went wirh mariachi costumes u_u

 (gr8080), Friday, 26 August 2011 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

trent la raza amirite

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 03:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

those guys look like guys in sunglasses

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 05:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

silby's photo is Joey Barton at a fancy dress party, right?

50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Friday, 26 August 2011 06:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

"I, I am not"

such a perfect and beautiful little NIN phrase

frogbs, Friday, 26 August 2011 06:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay I finally read the segment of this argument I missed

thank you, all of you, for the painful belly lols

the "uppity" bomb was particularly amazing

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Friday, 26 August 2011 13:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

of all the writers, rappers and assorted others i follow on twitter, Touré was one of only two i had to drop, iirc due to simply being too annoying over time

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 13:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i bet he's real cut up abt it

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 13:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

uh i'm confused, is 'uppity' really racist? /tuomas
I'm British btw so please excuse me. We're all uppity here, this guy is our national hero: http://mrmen.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Uppity
I mean, he is kind of brown but... ??

kinder, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

"uppity" isn't a racial slur, it's just used as a prefix to racial slurs often enough to carry some pretty unpleasant connotations

some dude, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

it was used to describe african americans who dared to stand up to degradation

funky house septics (D-40), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

OK. Genuinely surprised I've never heard of that until now.

kinder, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/#!/GroverNorquist

― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, August 26, 2011 12:16 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

"3nd Grade"

 (gr8080), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

grammar is for losers.

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

buy uppity n***** mugs & shirts

y'know urban dictionary definitely isn't one of the very worst places on the internet but i really think it deserves to be in the conversation more than it is

some dude, Friday, 26 August 2011 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

In American parlance, uppity is always problematic because it implies that ppl have and should know how to keep 'their place' socially, whether that's due to race or class or sex or any combo thereof.

giraffes have been heard making strange flutelike sounds! (Michael White), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i was just posting that but m white beat me to it

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

uppity means you're acting above yr station in life

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 26 August 2011 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Qantas Airlines gives free Bledisoe Cup tickets to a fan who promised to "dress as Radike Samo, complete with Afro Wig, Aus rugby kit and facepaint."

FLIP FLOPPING HILL BILLY! (reddening), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was thinking of posting this one yeah. Whats interesting about it, is in this case it was done with no malicious intent at all and, importantly, the guy in question said he thought it was awesome and didnt understand what the fuss was all about. They were just dressing up as this specific guy.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

can we unban frogbs, i need his take on this

 (gr8080), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

australia what minstrel shows we didn't have 'em here we go again

he's the deej, i'm the hipster (kkvgz), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Look I cant and wont defend the fact blackface is clearly offensive, but I have to stress it isnt a cultural thing/known about down here. It just isnt. People do not get it. You should see the comments on this issue on newspaper sites here. its like 80% "this wasnt offensive I dont understand why people are upset" comments, even in the left wing papers.

Beyond that I'm not eqipped to argue this issue, tbh (and again, I'm also not defending it either as I fully understand why it is regarded as wrong - but only because of americans telling people tbh!)

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Trayce, I don't believe that washes anymore. Since the Jackson Jive incident, it's been overwhelmingly clear to the whole of Australia (a) that blackface is not acceptable and (b) why blackface is not acceptable. These guys weren't even doing a vaguely accurate impression of the bloke, they're in shoe polish and fright wigs ffs.

I'm not attacking you at all Trayce, but these guys and Qantas should have known better, and "oh I'm sorry I didn't realise" is not good enough an excuse.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 29 August 2011 09:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

bntw lack of malicious intent is also off the point because blackface is inherently racist by dint of what it is. It's like, you wouldn't dress up as a paralympian by sitting behind bars in a monkey suit with a "SEE THE ONE-LEGGED FREAK" sign over your head.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 29 August 2011 09:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh dont get me wrong - Qantas should DEFINITELY have known better. The minute anyone picked that guy's proposal as the winner, PR should have said "oh my god no, this is such a bad idea".

I think australians are very resistant to being told how to think/to PC, and I'm not sure what to think about that really.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

(apart from "this is so embarrasing", obv)

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

so even aussies don't cogh? ;_; The Australian Zeitgeist Tracking Thread

zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 09:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

FWIW also: "you wouldn't dress up as a paralympian by sitting behind bars in a monkey suit with a "SEE THE ONE-LEGGED FREAK" sign over your head."

I suspect some people here really would, and would vehemently defend their right to sick humour, as well.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah you're right, they would (and they'd be slammed).

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 29 August 2011 09:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

but I have to stress it isnt a cultural thing/known about down here. It just isnt.

I've grown up knowing that blackface is weird and gross and retrograde

rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

SHOE POLISH

 (gr8080), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I havent, I'm ok with being honest about that. Its something I have only learned later in life. And I do remember the B&W Minstrel show and those terrible Goodies skits and etc.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

But, now having read back over the frogbs shitstorm upthread I hadnt seen before this got revived I feel icky.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't want to sow more ill will between America and Australia. I mean, it's like when Tiger Woods called himself a spaz and Britain got all upset about it because over there spasticism is a physical disability or something and then we were all like "what? fuck you. we're not gonna stop saying spaz."

he's the deej, i'm the hipster (kkvgz), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

we just all have to learn to live together in this increasingly smaller world.

he's the deej, i'm the hipster (kkvgz), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

now I am intensely curious about what Canada's sensitivity blind spot is

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Probably something to do with the Queen

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Monday, 29 August 2011 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

iirc its the montreal wanting to become its own country thing

D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just got an email from an all white band called BLACK PUSSY

step your 'îron game up, jamie xx (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

they are not sweet

step your 'îron game up, jamie xx (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

I feel like the acronym "smdh" was invented specifically for ppl like that

now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

they are not sweet

― step your 'îron game up, jamie xx (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, August 29, 2011 7:54 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

whoa when did the eagles sign brian austin green

max, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

is it inherently racist to call your white band 'black pussy' though?

Is it?

Juata Man (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's sort of like what jon stewart said during the "macaca" incident

"we don't know what it means but it sure as hell *sounds* racist"

Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't want to sow more ill will between America and Australia. I mean, it's like when Tiger Woods called himself a spaz and Britain got all upset about it because over there spasticism is a physical disability or something and then we were all like "what? fuck you. we're not gonna stop saying spaz."

Tiger also did a spaz mime that clearly indicated he knew all about the "British" meaning.

We had a thread about it - (Don't) Putting Spaz

Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Monday, 29 August 2011 23:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

On a livejournal comm I read, some people are incredibly strident about all kinds of words as "abelist" speaking of which. I saw someone get told off the other day for calling someone "dumb", I wish I was joking.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 23:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy shit. i just googled up the original pic with his stance

and then i googled up some youtubes of people with cerebral palsy and goddamn if some of them didn't stand like that. but how would tiger know? i still find it hard to believe that it was an intentional jab at people with cp. it just seems too weird that he would use that word to that end.

kkvgz, Monday, 29 August 2011 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

but then fuck that is an incredibly exaggerated stance.

kkvgz, Monday, 29 August 2011 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's a fine line if you're just dicking around (no offence meant to dicks btw) and stick your legs out weirdly because it feels outlandish, but I suppose if he followed up with "I'm a spazmo" or whatever that doesn't leave a great deal of doubt. Overall he should have known what would happen.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 29 August 2011 23:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

"ANYONE that says this is Racist. Is a racist"

"If aboriginal dancers paint there faces white (which they do!!), isn't that the same?"

from https://twitter.com/#!/heraldsunreader

rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

For the int'l audience, Herald Sun is a Murdoch tabloid (as if that weren't obvious already).

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah dreggiest dregs there, about on par with the Sun.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wonder where these people exist tho because frankly, I dont personally know ANYONE who'd say something as dumb as "aboriginal dancers paniting their faces white is the same isnt it".

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm related to some of them.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah ok maybe my dad would say it, but mostly cos he's a grumpy shit stirrer.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ was about to post almost the exact same word-for-word thing!

kinder, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

about my dad not yours, that is

kinder, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

They would say it out of entitlement and cultural ignorance. Remember how many people there are who think "white aborigines" are faking it for land rights.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

e.g. "bullshit, he's got red hair"

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 01:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

actually lol'd at how bad that is

rockapads, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 03:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hahahah whaaaat, thats the NEW deus ex? That looks like some shitty mid 90s animation :/

Also lol I misread the action tree as "offer hot beef".

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 04:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

how about when white blonde coworkers come back from a third world countries with pictures of themselves surrounded by laughing naked children?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 04:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

is that just what's done on safari?

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 04:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, sheeyit!

۩ (crüt), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://thejewtangclan.com/

 (gr8080), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

how about when white blonde coworkers come back from a third world countries with pictures of themselves surrounded by laughing naked children?

Well, I suppose it would be in poor taste for them to request white kids instead.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

poll

Jew Pac
Snoop Synagoggy Gogg
Dr. Dreidel
The Notorious G.O.Y.
Ludaknish

iatee, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

such original puns

delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

just fresh, untapped material, this

delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Disclaimer: Everything said in these songs is a joke. For instance, we do not actually want Mel Gibson to die.

wait, why?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

they'd have to rewrite too much material

iatee, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

this isn't really racist tho, I mean potentially racist against jews

iatee, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've got nothing

Mordy, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

and goys I guess

iatee, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

As Kosher as They Wanna Be was the duo's only successful and popular album, and afterward, 2 Live Jews slipped into obscurity. Yet they made Fiddling With Tradition in 1991, a hip-hop reworking of the 1964 musical Fiddler on the Roof. Fiddling got only minor attention and was not a successful novelty album. 2 Live Jews went on to create Disco Jews in 1994 and Christmas Jews in 1998, before quitting.

In 2005, Moisha and Irving released their greatest hits album, The Worst of 2 Live Jews...the Best of the Shticks.

buzza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

its depressing as somalian famine to me that the 2 Live Jews can release like 4 albums and these fucksticks can get together like NO, CLEARLY THERE IS MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THIS

delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol buzza beat me

delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah this isn't racist, just dumb

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

"snoop synagoggy gogg" is so dumb it is making me giggle.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Earth Dye (u s steel) wrote this on thread music purchases you made years ago that horrify you now on board I Love Music on Mar 12, 2010

2 Live Jews is great....

buzza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

jewess steel

buzza, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://clevelandjewishradio.tripod.com/hattitude.html

i wish i could find a copy of this to post for all of you. all the music iirc is from the low end theory

Mordy, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Fiddling got only minor attention and was not a successful novelty album.

can't even imagine how low the bar is set to be an unsuccessful novelty album

I DIED, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ok so the WWE have started calling babyface Sheamus 'Great White Sheamus'* to fued angry black man Mark Henry. It is about as awkward as

*because he is really pale, and I guess it kind of sounds like Great White Shark

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

he is very pale tbf

Juata Man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

xx-post

5.0 out of 5 stars I Laffed so hard I tink I sitt myself, October 13, 2005
By
Yooperman - See all my reviews
This review is from: Songs for Fart Lovers (Audio CD)
Dis iz da funniest fing I have ever heard in years, & I can really relate to dis cuz I love blowin' gas, & I even blow farts whilst listenin' to dis. Tunes such as "Chubby Club", "You're My Favorite Turd", "Pucker & Smell", "Squishy Underwear", "I'm a Lonely Toilet", "A Fart Can Be a Friend", "Diarrhea '03" & sketches such as "Carl Needs a new Rod" (If you fard near a blind person at a bait shop, you'll get da joke) & "Duel at Del Santo's" (very remeniscent of da famous late-'40's UK gem, "The Farting Contest") are so funny dat I laffed so hard I tink I sitt myself!!
I've been a Yooper fan since high school & dis a great addition to my collection!

O_O

thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

My grandparents had a few Yoopers records, but I had no idea they did brown material. : \

kkvgz, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Thriller poll reminded me of this scene from David Lee Roth's ''Just A Gigolo'' video.

It's definitely one of those moments that didn't seem so bad at the time, but now in 2011 is making me go "wait a goddam minute."

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's definitely one of those moments that didn't seem so bad at the time, but now in 2011 is making me go "wait a goddam minute."

Man, OTM. How did I never pick up on that?!

It's especially awful considering how like, 12 months earlier, MJ's label had to essentially threaten to pull their entire catalog unless MTV played a black artist. Bad look, Dave.

delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, well...

kkvgz, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

name instances in which the "it's okay to make racist jokes if we just go after everybody equally" tactic has been pulled off successfully.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

South Park?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Good grief, man.

I remember all the zany skits with the old people walking funny and the guy going "Fuggidaboutit, Dave!", but that's something else.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean not sure I'd consider that one 100% successful, but that seems to have been thier frequent defense over the years.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

WHOA NO, THE CUTTLEFISH IS ABOUT TO COME OUT OF MY ASSHOOOOO

delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don Rickles, obv

delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

'All white and … kinda cool'
Midshipmen storm chasers fly into hurricane

esteenban HOOTez (kkvgz), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

is there a rolling "is this racist?" thread NSFW edition

or can we generally assume that a vast majority of interracial porn is racist and save me the trouble of posting links

elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cream of Wheat dude seemed pretty chill.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

cream of wheat dude is not a porn thing.

notorious ilx wet noodle (remy bean), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh? Let me just pull that clip up here at work and see what happens.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait don't do that

notorious ilx wet noodle (remy bean), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

once, when i was very high, i wandered into a supermarket and asked if aunt jemima and uncle ben were married, and whose aunt and uncle they were, anyway. it was an armenian supermarket, and nobody knew.

notorious ilx wet noodle (remy bean), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Speaking of which, I'm pretty sure that Healthy Choice's "Asian-styled" dinners are called that only because they include rice.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Meh, they're 'Asian inspired'. All their food is 'inspired' by real food and then blandized.

like preggers, it's all in there (Michael White), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Frozen chicken in a tub: Green label
Frozen chicken in a tub with rice: Orange Asian Inspired!

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pro tip: California, Cambodia and Vietnamese rice crops of spring/summer 2011 are extremely high in yield and even higher in quality. If you're into jasmine, stock up.

notorious ilx wet noodle (remy bean), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Frozen chicken in a tub w/pasta: Tuscan!

like preggers, it's all in there (Michael White), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

remy I thought california grew cal rose primarily?

dayo, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

It does, D. I meant that all rice was very available and good, and especially jasmine (because I like it). Prices are pretty wild, though –– a 50 lb. now costs something like $12- 15 dollars more a bag, on average, than a year ago. And with a good crop!?

notorious ilx wet noodle (remy bean), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

inflation, man

been looking for broken rice, but not sure where to look

dayo, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

just drop some regular rice on the floor

max, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

max, Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

hello I love you but I've chosen darkness my old friend (Edward III), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

i loled

 (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://deadspin.com/5837054/
http://deadspin.com/5837054/
http://deadspin.com/5837054/
http://deadspin.com/5837054/
http://deadspin.com/5837054/
http://deadspin.com/5837054/

―  (gr8080), Friday, September 2, 2011 12:52 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

 (gr8080), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

http://jezebel.com/5843637/college-republicans-express-white-mens-oppression-through-bake-sale

I mean, to try that in this day and age, you really have to hand it to them

dayo, Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

if they were really accurate they would charge asians $2.50

dayo, Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

def A for effort there

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean you'd have to imagine that the college republicans at berkley have really had to hone their trolling skills

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm just imagining david spade in PCU

dayo, Sunday, 25 September 2011 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

isnt this something that college republicans do every year?

max, Sunday, 25 September 2011 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

hopefully I wld like some cheap cupcakes

dayo, Sunday, 25 September 2011 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Are those prices based on some "data" email forwards or something, or are they a just a reflection of the hierarchy of races in the mind of the college republican?

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Sunday, 25 September 2011 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

isnt this something that college republicans do every year?

yeah I dunno why this particular attempt is getting press, think it's just cause it got the right web press

iatee, Sunday, 25 September 2011 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

er press press press

iatee, Sunday, 25 September 2011 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean you'd have to imagine that the college republicans at berkley have really had to hone their trolling skills

being a republican in berkeley already makes you a troll, you don't really have to do anything

iatee, Sunday, 25 September 2011 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

the UCLA chick who made that video about asians in the library needs to step her game up

een, Sunday, 25 September 2011 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

I kind of wonder to what degree these people understand their own opinions. It sound like a terrible thing to say, but they never seem to understand the consequences etc. of such a view.

redflammelwaving warwife (dowd), Sunday, 25 September 2011 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Interesting comments on the Melb Age article on this event.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-students-spark-race-row-with-bake-sale-20110926-1ks2f.html

Normally, you see Aussies defending crappy racist "jokes" and whatever esp in newspaper comments, but curiously in this one most people are angry about it, and one lone voice of (embarrasingly nasty) dissent is a white woman claiming to be from NYC.

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 26 September 2011 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

No wonder the United States has lost it's hegemony in advanced education. They've been dumbing down the Universities and school system for the best part of 50 years now - as we have in Australia. The whole system has been devalued with this political correctness idea that no-one should get an "F" and thus we have the situation where 16 year-old are learning the maths I'd mastered in 3rd Grade.

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 26 September 2011 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I should have made it clearer there are one or two aus dickheads on there too (lol "Reg")

Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 26 September 2011 00:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

No wonder the United States has lost it's hegemony in advanced education. They've been dumbing down the Universities and school system for the best part of 50 years now - as we have in Australia. The whole system has been devalued with this political correctness idea that no-one should get an "F" and thus we have the situation where 16 year-old are learning the maths I'd mastered in 3rd Grade.

What does this have to do with racism?

badg, Monday, 26 September 2011 01:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha oh right it's a comment from the article, I thought it looked weird

badg, Monday, 26 September 2011 01:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

you have lost you'r hegemony in comprehension

diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 26 September 2011 01:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

it is worth noting that the UC system does have not (de jure) affirmative action (there is a little bit of de facto.) so this is an affirmative action protest at a school where most of the black people are there out of sportsffirmative action - pretty sure most of the BCR are fine with the football team.

iatee, Monday, 26 September 2011 01:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah not really sure what they're protesting tbh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_209_(1996)

dayo, Monday, 26 September 2011 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

The bake sale, run by the Berkeley College Republicans, was created in reaction to SB 185, a bill currently being considered by Gov. Jerry Brown, which would authorize California public universities to consider race, gender, ethnicity, and national/geographic origin in the admissions process.

Kerm, Monday, 26 September 2011 02:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, they do it regularly

iatee, Monday, 26 September 2011 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink



should consider eyebrow magnificence in the electoral process

remy bean, Monday, 26 September 2011 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmmmm, this is a toughie

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/associated-press-transcription-obama-cbc-speech-racist-173438340.html

Via the AP version:

"Take off your bedroom slippers. Put on your marching shoes," he said, his voice rising as applause and cheers mounted. "Shake it off. Stop complainin'. Stop grumblin'. Stop cryin'. We are going to press on. We have work to do."

Hunter called the AP's version "inherently racist," sparring with New Republic contributing editor and noted linguistics expert John McWhorter, who argued the g-less version "is actually the correct one," noting that the president's victory in the 2008 election was due, in part, to how effortlessly "he can switch into that (black) dialect."

Whatever the reason, Hunter found it offensive. "I teach a journalism class, and I tell my students to fix people's grammar, because you don't want them to sound ignorant," she said. "For them to do that, it's code, and I don't like it."

It's worth noting that the same sorts of arguments arose during George W. Bush's presidency, with the White House cleaning up the president's speeches to make him sound smarter, and news outlets sometimes not doing so.

According to Mark Smith, the AP reporter who filed the story, Obama was making a point by dropping his g's, making the transcription a no-brainer.

frogbs, Monday, 26 September 2011 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think it's that tough. Whatever McWhorter's politics (he's a slightly left-leaning centrist who voted for Obama, who unfortunately also sometimes plays a right wing hack on tv), I think he's a fair-minded, middle-of-the-road linguist.

bamcquern, Monday, 26 September 2011 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think that dialect is necessarily black and I'm kind of wondering if that was the real context McWhorter's quote was in!

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah that's why I posted it here. personally I don't think this is anything but most of the posters on this board are a little more sensitive than I am on those issues

frogbs, Monday, 26 September 2011 21:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

But yeah, it is not anything. More of a journalistic accuracy in quoting debate than anything.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Monday, 26 September 2011 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Despite the outcry, organizers said the sale would go forward unless they were threatened with physical violence. Mr. Lewis said Republican groups from nearby colleges — including the University of California, Davis; California State University, Sacramento; and Saint Mary’s College of California — had called to say they were sending carloads of supporters to the bake sale.

oh my god...they're multiplying

dayo, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would guess there's a 1% chance your average chinese person knows about the stereotype

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would guess there's a 1% chance your average chinese person knows about the stereotype

Is this racist?

crutbeef (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

yep

dayo, Sunday, 2 October 2011 13:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

isn't China the place where they made & sold Darkie Toothpaste until about a decade ago?

pork tartare (Eisbaer), Monday, 3 October 2011 05:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

actually, it was Taiwan.

pork tartare (Eisbaer), Monday, 3 October 2011 05:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

same difference

(╯°□°)╯︵ mode squad) (dayo), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

WTF why is Barack Obama making Asian stereotype face? I mean with the squinty eyes and mongoloid expression.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also that changed toothpaste is still offensive to me, it reminds me of when white people could barely deal with Lena Horne.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 3 October 2011 10:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Was watching this great video of Quincy and Herbie fooling around with a Fairlight:

But then was o_O at the question at 5:20. Is this racist?

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Actually, it's 5:05 or so. Don't skip ahead! Great video!

ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011 13:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

That was an awesome video.

The question itself could have been phrased better, especially since it almost sounded like a contrast was being made between "sophisticated" and "African". It certainly doesn't seem like that was the intent and Herbie gave a great response to it nonetheless.

Pleasant Plains, Monday, 10 October 2011 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

dayo, Saturday, 22 October 2011 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

was at a kid's bday party last week where there was facepainting, one little (white) boy insisted that he wanted to be facepainted as a "ninja" so the facepainter tried to oblige by painting his entire face black. you can imagine what the end result looked like. the parent was sort of mortified/afraid to walk home without washing it off. kid was completely oblivious (obviously).

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

the facepainter could have just given him a TMNT mask

dayo, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

‎"After Obama shook hands and chatted with a young African American boy who looked to be about 10, and then moved on, the boy turned to the white man he was dining with and said, 'I’m never going to wash my hand again.' "

From:
Obama L.A. visit: President makes unscheduled stop at Rosco's Chicken and Waffles
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/10/obama-roscoes-west-la.html

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbh I thought this was a better candidate for this thread:

ALSO:

Man in gorilla mask and carrying stun gun robs taco stand

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

But then was o_O at the question at 5:20. Is this racist?

― ste throkes (Ówen P.), Monday, 10 October 2011

herbie's response is used as the start of this (excellent) Aybee mix for lwe

http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/podcast/lwe-podcast-101-aybee/

post, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sorry, meant to post that to the blueface thread.

pplains, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't care if you're black, white, purple, or blue.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, i mean just look at their name

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 October 2011 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

no need to point out alicia's race

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 October 2011 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm going to go with "not racist" for that one. Do you feel that the man is somehow demeaned by the video?

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would dance to that song

dayo, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

nakhchivan, Friday, 28 October 2011 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm going to go with "not racist" for that one. Do you feel that the man is somehow demeaned by the video?

― rustic italian flatbread, Friday, October 28, 2011 1:10 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think the Tim&Eric/BlackKeys aesthetic of "tap dance for us, peculiar black man" is p fucking suspect, which is why i ask, "Is this racist?"

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty much everything painted in the Tim & Eric aesthetic is suspect, which is why the stuff that works is so amazing and the stuff that doesn't is so unbearable

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

"tap dance for us, peculiar black man"

there is no tap dancing in that Black Keys video. if anything, the guy is doing the dance that every white guy in 80s teen sex comedies used to do

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

y'know, the "running in place" thing. overbite optional.

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

hey shakey let me introduce you to the concept of figurative speech,

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

is "peculiar" figurative too cuz I don't see anything peculiar about that guy

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

he does appear to be actually black

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

the thing that strikes me is that they've got a video of a black man dancing vaguely like Carlton Banks as a video for a song called "Lonely Boy"; that definitely registers as "sketchy"

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

is whiney racist for finding that black man to be peculiar?

dayo, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

his dancing is peculiar, white or black

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

now I'm gonna feel weird every time I lol @ Carlton dancing

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

that sort of 'droll' 'deadpan' 'mnml' video aesthetic, if it is of a sort, is really terrible regardless of whether the incongrously terpsichorean figure-of-fun is white, purple or even black

nakhchivan, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't see what the Lonely Boy title has to do with it...?

kinda more inclined to agree with nakhchivan

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

you know white people used to demean and degrade black men by always referring to them as "boy", right

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

it is not nearly as bad as if the song had been called "Lonely Jungle Bunny" but it's near that territory

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think the Tim&Eric/BlackKeys aesthetic of "tap dance for us, peculiar black man" is p fucking suspect, which is why i ask, "Is this racist?"

― Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, October 28, 2011 1:50 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I don't know anything about their aesthetic. Do they do this often?

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm totally seeing Dan's point about "boy" though.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

"I was cast as an extra, and there were maybe six or seven other people who were supposedly going to be in the video. ... I was the first one to perform in the video. It was a motel shot where the guys from the Black Keys come and give me the keys to their motel room," he said. "The director just sort of noticed me dancing and asked me, 'Can you perform?' I said, 'I can dance, anybody can dance,' so I took some moves from everybody: John Travolta from 'Saturday Night Fever' and 'Pulp Fiction,' the Carlton Banks dance from 'The Fresh Prince' and a little bit of Michael Jackson, so it was a smorgasbord of everybody in there.

"It was just a spur-of-the-moment thing," Tuggle added. "My acting teacher Mark McPherson, he has us do this thing before we start class called 'Song and Dance,' where he'll have us sing one of our favorite songs, and then while we're singing it, he'll have us do a crazy dance, or a sexy dance, and I guess it spawned from that."

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I agree that this video is "suspect" but at the same time I also assume the "boy" thing is an unfortunate oversight rather than an intentional thing. a lot of young white folx don't know that connotation of "boy."

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Are there racist aspects to this video too?

Not even so much to the black performers or "Prince", but to the Latino get-ups some of the singers put on.

The thing that makes me uncomfortable about "Lonely Boy" is that it lingers for the entire video on that one dude. You start thinking about why he's doing this, how he knows the words, why is he in front of a motel lobby. His race is an aspect of that big picture too.

pplains, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

pplains, that is the first thing I thought of when I saw the black keys video.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

I agree with crut

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

tap dance for me, peculiar John Goodman.

pplains, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

(a large reason why it reads as "sketchy" and not "wrong" is because it seems like an unfortunate juxtaposition rather than an intentional choice)

he carried yellow flowers (DJP), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

But the Black Keys are from Atlanta. I mean, you'd think that as southerners they would be pretty aware of the connotation.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

They weren't even aware of Andrew Gold, apparently.

pplains, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol I am from Atlanta and I think I mostly learned about the "boy" thing from ILX

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

The 'boy' aspect is the only thing I find troublesome, really. But I do agree with crüt, it's almost certainly an oversight.

emil.y, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

youtube page says that video was directed by Jesse Dylan.. as in son of Bob?

Kerm, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay the "boy" thing didn't occur to me immediately but yeah fair point

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

But the Black Keys are from Atlanta.

By Atlanta do you mean Akron, OH?

Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Akranta

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

he was thinking of the Black Lips or the Black Crowes

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Look, Ohio has so little going on for us right now. Don't take away our bands!

Food! Trends! Men! Hate! (Phil D.), Friday, 28 October 2011 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

We need to put them all where we can keep track of them.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

especially the boy bands.

pplains, Friday, 28 October 2011 18:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

dayo, Friday, 28 October 2011 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

That's dope as hell below the neck.

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

i see this tanning chain around in the suburbs, feels racist to me but maybe it's not?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 October 2011 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's toeing some sort of line certainly

J0rdan S., Friday, 28 October 2011 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

wd like to point out re: "latino get-ups" in the talking heads video that it is taken from true stories, which is set in small-town texas. most of the "latino" clothing in the video just looks like normal western wear to me (which obv has hispanic influence).

1staethyr, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I heart that wacky "Chinese" font

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

here's a good article about "ethnic type" (as in fonts), including chop suey/"chinesey" fonts: http://www.printmag.com/Article/Stereo_Types

1staethyr, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Awesome!

This week I went to a Chinese-themed bar with all Asian-ethnic employees, full of signs with that Chinesey font but with words in pinyin! So stuff like "NI HAO" and "XIE XIE", but written in chop suey. Clear did my head in.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 28 October 2011 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

id say the black keys thing is suspect since youre looking at a white band that plays to largely white audiences using a black man to sell their product to white people on his public dancing of which their is a long tradition of that sort of thing. the weird racial issue abt it feels obvious

i agree w/ crut about 'boy' likely not hitting them, but it does feel like his race is tied up in the 'interesting'-ness of the video i guess you could say

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Friday, 4 November 2011 04:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh, Katie....

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2011/11/dont-worry-katie.html

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/roiphe/2011/11/the_99_percent_takes_over_brooklyn.html

(tho not racism-related, I really like Glenn Kenny's concluding story about Carly Simon's sister)

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 November 2011 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am totally reporting that guy to the Elders of Zion. He'll be out of a job within the week.

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 November 2011 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man he's gonna feel so gypped.

pplains, Friday, 4 November 2011 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

The "gypped" thing... I have no idea how it got introduced to American slang, but it's unfortunate. I don't think I've ever encountered more than three or four people who knew its source.

Now, the dude I went to college with who was kind of a shlubby middle-american type who said something about how "he jewed me out of five dollars," on the other hand, kind of got knee-jerk punched by me. It was some sort of automatic reaction I didn't even know I had. And you know what? He had NEVER REALIZED THE CONNECTION. Like he had no idea it was racist.

I think Texas dude is probably utterly clueless but he should fucking know better. Since he's in an elected position.

mh, Friday, 4 November 2011 23:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp: I know I was saying gypped from elementary school until I reached college and made a friend of Romani ancestry who told me about it. He was pretty forgiving about it, but I did stop using it.

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 5 November 2011 09:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

man I never made the gypped/gypsy connection till now. whoops.

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Saturday, 5 November 2011 09:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i always thought of it as 'jipped' even if i'd only really heard it spoken and not read or wrote it out

prettyliketynandelong (some dude), Saturday, 5 November 2011 12:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think the majority of people in the US really have absolutely no idea, what with it being more of a notional idea. I had to correct a friend who was leading kind of a wandering lifestyle as she said something about 'being somewhat of a gypsy." I think I volunteered "nomad."

mh, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

is it me or do Asian epithets seem to go by more and more these days without reprisal? just seems how a lot of people in this area have deemed it acceptable territory........

Neanderthal, Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

a lot of the asian-american kids I know make asian jokes to the point where I get uncomfortable

Hardy Rock Anthem (crüt), Saturday, 5 November 2011 14:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

wayneandwax wayne marshall
did one of my students really write "black face menstrual shows"? #yikes #hopethatwasautocorrect
3 minutes ago

ice cr?m, Saturday, 5 November 2011 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think more Americans probably connect "gypsy" with the notion of Stevie Nicks than they would with any ethnic group.

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 5 November 2011 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

As in the common colloquial phrase, "I really feel Stevie Nicksed on that deal"

Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think more Americans probably connect "gypsy" with the notion of Stevie Nicks than they would with any ethnic group.

signs you're spending too much time on ilx

iatee, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

No but really, I bet there's a bunch of people think that "gypsy" is a lifestyle choice or something.

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

im a gypsy rasta, dont h8

ice cr?m, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anti-Roma hatred, even among 'enlightened leftists' in Britain, is the last acceptable bigotry.

trapdoor fucking spiders (dowd), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

top rated comment:

can't wait for the english version to come out!

lulienlaluna 1 day ago 42

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Idk just listened to that for the first time, more than half of the lyrics pass me by, I can't hear what he's saying. I know nothing about his "flow" or image, if he's difficult to understand more often that youtube comment seems like an innocent pun to me?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's the edited version so 30% of the words are missing, rendering it unintelligible. Not sure that was what the commenter was getting at though. Maybe they mean a version where the main basketball metaphor is replaced by one from netball or field hockey.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

u need to lulienlaluna if they are a racist

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

in america there's this idea that anything that isn't proper white person english isn't english

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

u need to ask them if they are american too

i would guess they were from the land of big bottom birds judged by that comment btw

Nigel Farage is a fucking hero (nakhchivan), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

the english versioun

despite all my rage I am still just a Latter Day Saint (Abbbottt), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://shop.lululemon.com/products/clothes-accessories/men-tops/Pacific-Run-Long-Sleeve-28632?cc=9547&skuId=3431023&catId=men-tops

Check out the different colour options for this shirt...

Tuomas, Friday, 18 November 2011 08:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, kinda racist that they use a black guy to model a black shirt when they don't use a plum heathered dark slate wee stripe guy to model a plum heathered dark slate wee stripe shirt

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 09:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

"once our internal temperature heats up"

^ take it to the grammar thread

next thing she's shaving my skrillex (NickB), Friday, 18 November 2011 09:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not sure if it's racist, I just thought it was an odd choice to have the same white model for the other three colours, but when you click "black" you get a black model.

Tuomas, Friday, 18 November 2011 09:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's ill advised I think

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 18 November 2011 09:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

What's weird is that the "black" shirt worn by the black man isn't actually black! It's more grey isn't it?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 November 2011 11:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's lighter than the other grey shirt!

crüt, Friday, 18 November 2011 11:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's weird the other two grey shirts are called "dark slate heathered dark slate classic stripe" and "black herringbone", but that one is just "black" (instead of "black TV static" or whatever would be appropriate). That's why it feels like some ill-thought joke.

Tuomas, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anti-Roma hatred, even among 'enlightened leftists' in Britain, is the last acceptable bigotry.

surprisingly and worryingly true in Ireland as well. When EU enlargement happened in 2002 or whenever, news people considered it perfectly reasonable to ask ministers whether this would mean that Ireland would be flooded by Roma.

More recently a prominent commentator and moron in one of our more reprehensible newspapers has been ranting about how his area of Dublin has been taken over by Roma beggars. Apparently there were no beggars in Ireland before Roma immigration.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 18 November 2011 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

come come there's lots of acceptable bigotries in ireland!

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

thought the revive was going to be about this

http://www.racialicious.com/2011/11/15/yes-there-are-black-people-in-your-hunger-games-the-strange-case-of-rue-cinna/

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow I hate ppl

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

(just saying wht everyone is thinking)

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

i thought it'd be about terry/suarez/blatter

₪_₪ (darraghmac), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

the reaction to the lenny kravitz casting makes me hate people, but the reaction to the rue casting is mindboggling. she's very clearly black in the book.

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Ew,"

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

does hollywood actress or not?!!!!!!

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

?!... ?!!!!!!

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

just saying wht everyone is thinking?!?!?!?!!!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

dying at the number of people who have no clue who lenny kravitz is either, definitely this is young adult fiction

max, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

"white, sweet and loving as a man"

rustic italian flatbread, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait lenny kravitz is black

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

"this guy is not cute at all!" o_O

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

what is hunger games is it like twilight

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

not thinking lenny kravitz is attractive is like the #1 sign that u are hella racist

max, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah the "sweet and loving" thing is insane, but that girl's words seem chosen at random.

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hunger Games is like Battle Royale

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

hunger games is a YA dystopian trilogy that is not entirely dissimilar to twilight

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I haven't read it, but I was led to understand it was less pathetic and more bloodthirsty, like a toned down Battle Royale

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hunger Games is like Battle Royale

― Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, November 18, 2011 1:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol i just read the hunger games wiki all why are there one million things w/this exact plot so dumb, but then i was like wait battle royale is the best movie

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

battle royale was only ok

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbf, Lenny Kravitz does have a nose.

pplains, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

and pupils (though somewhat dilated.)

pplains, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

battle royale was only ok

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, November 18, 2011 1:15 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pffft pffft post

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I never saw the Battle Royale movie but the book was SUPER ENTHRALLING

I've been avoiding The Hunger Games because I wasn't sure I wanted to read Battle Royale Lite; having them linked more directly to Twilight is even more of a turn-off

Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

the movie is great dan u should watch it!

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

I actually wanted to start a thread for a serious discussion about "movies that should've been video games" but then I realized that I don't really care about the thoughts people really have about either I just like interacting with them

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like the books, with some reservations. the way they're like twilight is the way a lot of ya books about a girl are like twilight: there's a love triangle. they're a lot better than twilight, like almost everything in the world.

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

TUOMAS OTM

very good find

yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am a racist so if there are any other racists around we can just have the vid game/movie discussion in this thread and it'll be on topic

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

not thinking lenny kravitz is attractive is like the #1 sign that u are hella racist

― max, Friday, November 18, 2011 6:09 PM (17 minutes ago)

true true

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

max went gay just to prove hes not racist smh

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

'ringtone' is the preferred term

max, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lenny Kravitz apparently an apostate Jew, I think I am racist against him now

ooh i love my loaf n jug! (silby), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

the reaction to the lenny kravitz casting makes me hate people, but the reaction to the rue casting is mindboggling. she's very clearly black in the book.

OK, I didn't realize this, but I've only read the first one.

Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

she's only in the first one! i guess people sort of skim YA sometimes. district 12 is evocative of Reconstruction-era south black sharecroppers. district 11 is reminiscent of Appalachian coal miners.

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I never know when people are supposed to be black in books unless the book says "this character is black". "Dark skin" doesn't register for me as "this character is some sort of futuristic black person".

Haven't read hunger games

ooh i love my loaf n jug! (silby), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

district 9 is an apartheid allegory

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

i do watch books like a hawk for race markers

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol shut up jho i am clearly invested in the hunger games for some reason

horseshoe, Friday, 18 November 2011 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

do you even realize what an amazing joke i made, do you?!!

ice cr?m, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have never heard of Hunger Games.

crüt, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

But I'm still appalled that there are black characters.

crüt, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

gonna do a phd on this brb

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

recently saw a glenn ligon exhibition and holy shit the white people who were walking around and looking at the work and talking about all of it were just so fuckin racist, I mean museum chatter is prob some of my fav shit to overhear in the world but I was leaving rooms just to get away from people

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 November 2011 19:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

why you gotta bring markers into this

dayo, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

so this isn't about romans.

pplains, Friday, 18 November 2011 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

come come there's lots of acceptable bigotries in ireland!

Well, yes, here too. I meant acceptable amongst liberals/leftists who would oppose any other kind of prejudice. People here who would oppose any other kind of prejudice or racist language are more than happy to complain about 'gypos' or 'tinks' etc.

sleep daphnia (dowd), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

*masturbates furiously to pic of lenny kravitz, rids self of last vestiges of racism*

I gave your mom morgellons (buzza), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

am0n, Friday, 18 November 2011 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I never saw the Battle Royale movie but the book was SUPER ENTHRALLING

the movie is pretty good, the book is better. I have no interest in Hunger Games, sounds like a stupid ripoff designed to appeal to um people other than me.

I was kinda shocked to see Battle Royale in a children's book store the other day. Like, really this is appropriate for 12 yo or whatever? (tbf it was on the same shelf as Tolkien/LOTR) I guess I read some gnarly shit when I was 12, I just remember this book being particularly brutal...

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 November 2011 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

dayo, Saturday, 19 November 2011 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Racism isn't even the biggest problem I have with that.

ooh i love my loaf n jug! (silby), Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

yah it begins sarcastically and then is plainly moralistic, that sort of stylistic miscegenation suggests the internet isn't even trying to raise its young content farmers

The Triumph of the Will High (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol all the guys taking cell phone pix

ice cr?m, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe she has a hilarious tramp stamp

ice cr?m, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

one guy has the im totally gonna put this on my tumblr look in his eyes

ice cr?m, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i got your dam district 9 joke, icey

horseshoe, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

~7 hours later~

ice cr?m, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha i am shaking my fist irl

horseshoe, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanking u

ice cr?m, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

she's only in the first one!

Oh, duh. :)

i guess people sort of skim YA sometimes.

Possibly true.

district 12 is evocative of Reconstruction-era south black sharecroppers. district 11 is reminiscent of Appalachian coal miners.

I think you have these reversed?

Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Saturday, 19 November 2011 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes, you are right

horseshoe, Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

district 12 has enough references to the pale merchant families and the darker seam families for there to be a few theories about katniss's background/appearance. also, the lyrics to the hanging tree also seem to reference lynching: http://thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Songs#Lyrics_2

gyac, Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is like the opposite of when I read the first three HARRY POTTAR books and thought Hermione was black and was hella confused when I saw the movie poster. OR IS IT??

Loud music stressed out sad Shadow (Abbbottt), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Seems really odd to me that this happened at all considering like Gawker and TMZ are like dually responsible for the internet outrage culture of "Once potentially a racist, always a flaming contemptible racist." I figured dude should be like hyper aware of shit like this

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would not be at all surprised if the uproar was over making fun of Kanye's dead mother rather than any allusion to a racial slur, considering the linguistic limbo over the difference between "-a" and "-er".

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

the joke was really offensive and i do think calling a black person the n-word is a straight up fireable offense but i was more rankled by his no-stakes apology. "sorries all around!" is like an apology from that girl from ucla that made that video about asians in the library.

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 January 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

also feel like writing a post on gawker about DONDA and not knowing that donda is the name of kanye's dead mom is a fireable offense in of itself.

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 January 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

it was totally about the n-word and not about kanye's mom

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

that is one statement I am happy to be wrong about

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

at first I didn't think it was that bad, then I thought if someone made that joke in front of me it would be pretty horrific.

ain't nothing nice (bnw), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

the fact that he had to say "dis" instead of "this" to make the hacky acronym joke work makes it even more offensive

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

whiney, what do you think of all the "shit ______ people say" youtubes that are popular now

dayo, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

feel like you would like this

dayo, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

whiney, what do you think of all the "shit ______ people say" youtubes that are popular now

― dayo, Friday, January 6, 2012 10:24 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The Stuff Girls Say with the dude in drag was pretty disgusting on some basic levels.

A lot of the "Stuff White Girls Say To Black Girls" seems more like "Stuff White Girls Say When Black Girls Aren't Around," which makes the whole YouTube sadder if it's accurate.

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think most black girls have had that stuff said to them by white girls in their lives. i think most black guys have had the gender equivalent stuff said to them by white guys in their lives. white americans are really stupid about race

max, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

except for me, im really smart about race

max, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i have tons of bleaugh friends

max, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

but ur last name is 'racist' iirc. max racist.

(๑•̀⌓•́๑) (am0n), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Observer has just learned that Gawker blogger Seth Abramovitch was dismissed after a post that invoked a racial slur many considered to be in generally poor taste.

Gawker used to have such tasteful racial slurs, what happened?

buzza, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

feeling like gawker editor daulerio's twitter handle is kinda uh questionable in itself, in racial terms

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

but i was more rankled by his no-stakes apology. "sorries all around!" is like an apology from that girl from ucla that made that video about asians in the library.

"I'm sorry you were offended" apologies are the worst. I would rather have no apology at all than that because it is so insincere.

Nicole, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp @AJDaulerio? afaik that's been his handle for a while

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait, no, i'm responding to the twit conversation with 'pepper lebeija' linked in that article, that's not aj, my mistake

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

guess i much be an ignorant because i don't see what's racially insensitive about that

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

(๑•̀⌓•́๑) (am0n), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think most black girls have had that stuff said to them by white girls in their lives. i think most black guys have had the gender equivalent stuff said to them by white guys in their lives. white americans are really stupid about race

― max, Friday, January 6, 2012 10:56 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark

I think this is true

bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

like, is it questionable to name your twitter handle after someone who is not the same race as you?

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

eh, just a white gay dude using the name of a dead black vogue queen, for lols, is all. maybe not explicitly racist but still kinda dumb and gross imho xp

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

l-r: frogbs, ilx

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

eh, just a white gay dude using the name of a dead black vogue queen, for lols, is all. maybe not explicitly racist but still kinda dumb and gross imho xp

what if it's a white straight dude calling himself Princess TamTam?

pplains, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's like "hey, you're not that guy!"

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kermit is a lot less confrontational than frogbs, also do not want to hear frogbs' version of the rainbow connection

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

"feeling like ILX poster frogbs handle is kinda uh questionable in itself, in ethologist terms" - a frog reading this thread

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

i cant pinpoint what exactly, but I do think there's something a little weird about my white friends who have like big afro'd black basketball players from the 70s as their twitter avatars or like

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

so you'd be more comfortable if they used Larry Bird or Dirk because they resemble them a little more?

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

luis suarez

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

the white plies (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

I dunno, i'm not saying it makes me UNCOMFORTABLE, frogbullshit, but like elmo says, there is a little something curious about being privileged white male using a black person's picture to define your identity to the world?

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

what if it's a current black basketball player or rapper?

bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

i dunno, i do think there is some level of contextual difference between "i like dj quik" and "check out the way this harlem globetrotter used to look"

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

dude, Meadowlark Lemon was THE SHIT

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

whiney is my t-pain teddy bear avatar racist

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

your t-pain teddy bear avatar is classic

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i cant pinpoint what exactly, but I do think there's something a little weird about my white friends who have like big afro'd black basketball players from the 70s as their twitter

I feel the same way but I can't decide whether I'm right on or whether the impulse that makes me feel weird about this is bullshit white liberal angst

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

I will co-sign that 100%

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk, i guess privileged cis white gay dudes laying claim to a trans PoC culture as 'their own' is kinda bothersome to me?

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

i blame madonna.

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

besides just saying "it's a little curious" why don't you just point out what you think these people are trying to say? like almost all this is is either "I like this guy" or "I think this picture is cool". do you really have to point out "there's a 1% chance this is actually racist, so I'm going to call this out?"

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

i can't read seth abromavitch's name w/o hearing it in the voice of bobby moynihan saying "gary abromowitz"

J0rdan S., Friday, 6 January 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

'laying claim' or 'i like this'?

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh shit i asked what frogbs asked

carpy deems (darraghmac), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't tell me that you understand/'til you suggest ban

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk, i guess privileged cis white gay dudes laying claim to a trans PoC culture as 'their own' is kinda bothersome to me?

dunno why its necessary to point out all the time "White guys are priviledged! Black guys are not!" but IMO this really seems like looking way too deep into something that is not that significant in the first place. do people really pick their twitter avatar because they want to say "This is me, this is my culture, this is how I grew up, and this is the level of priveledge I have"?

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

i dunno, i do think there is some level of contextual difference between "i like dj quik" and "check out the way this harlem globetrotter used to look"

― pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, January 6, 2012 12:29 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

well, what's the difference between "I like rap music" and "I like 70s basketball style"

bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

some people think that people in the 70's looked "funny"

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

^

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

dunno why its necessary to point out all the time "White guys are priviledged! Black guys are not!"

I know that you don't know why, and won't know why, but it is necessary to point this out all the time. It will no longer be necessary when white ppl don't have all the privilege. You're welcome.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know that you don't know why, and won't know why

probably should have just stopped there before you said something stupid

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp omg haha

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

iconic

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Will I offend anyone using that picture as my twitter avatar?

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

full confession: I briefly had Dock Ellis's baseball card as a myspace band avatar for awhile way back when

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

well that certainly is a frog of priviledge

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

damn, almost had whiney calling out half the goon crew as being racist

bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

it is necessary to point this out all the time. It will no longer be necessary when white ppl don't have all the privilege. You're welcome.

we're talking about twitter avatars (of people who are richer, more famous, and more talented than us). kinda strikes me as the kind of thing that ONLY white people would have a problem with.

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

no one is richer, more famous, or more talented than me frog b, I don't know what world you live in

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

dock ellis is totally more talented than you aero, sorry

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

I pitch no-hitters on acid all day it's just nobody reports it

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

i see we have a nice shitstorm brewing and i'll let you get on with it, but with the case of 'pepper lebeija' twit handle i guess for me it comes down to reducing trans people of color to objects of amusement? or more generally how paris is burning is largely seen as little more than a fun quotable 'gay' movie, rather than an enthographic documentary of an extremely marginal community?

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

so if my avatar is Kobe Bryant, does that say to you, "people like Kobe are just objects of amusement"?

frogbs, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

yours personally? yes

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not removing my Eddie Hazel avatars for anyone.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

hope you don't have a problem with my new DN

frogbs after dark (frogbs), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's kinda blah

bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

That goat looks sort of happy so I object to any use of it as an avatar.

joygoat, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not removing my Eddie Hazel avatars for anyone.

― Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Friday, January 6, 2012 10:23 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lool

ah, how quaint (Matt P), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

yo, what are the implications of having a varg vikernes avatar? that's cool rite?

Mordy, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok obv nobody else is gonna say it

no

no, that's not cool mordy

i'm sorry

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol missed you frogg

horseshoe, Saturday, 7 January 2012 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

also it's not clear to me you tried at all to understand the specificity of elmo's observation; it's not really transportable to kobe bryant.

horseshoe, Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

'well all black ppl are p much the same, right?'

404 (Lamp), Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

not ALL white ppl are privileged and not ALL black ppl are underprivileged, guys

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

so if my avatar is Kobe Bryant, does that say to you, "people like Kobe are just objects of amusement"?

― frogbs, Friday, January 6, 2012 1:18 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

god this isn't that hard, there is a (usually p obvious) difference between liking/appreciating/being a fan of someone and using their image for ironic lols in a way that is racialized or playing off stereotypes

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 January 2012 02:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

gr8: i don't really know what you're about but i'll assume you're not joking. there are all sorts of types of privilege -- all people who pass for white have white privilege over those who don't. this doesn't mean they have every privilege.

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

just lol'd so hard darr

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

hard lol'ing. it hurts.

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

help.

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

then i'm going to assume i had a wrong read on gr8 and wrongfully responded to a comment made by a million people every day

i'm very sorry mordy

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

u aren't darr! continue to fight the good fight

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh lol didn't see that

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 January 2012 03:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

god this isn't that hard, there is a (usually p obvious) difference between liking/appreciating/being a fan of someone and using their image for ironic lols in a way that is racialized or playing off stereotypes

i don't see an image there, the guy's name is just "Pepper LaBeija". not sure where the ironic lols are coming from. it is because he is not, in fact, Pepper LaBeija?

frogbs, Saturday, 7 January 2012 05:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Because the name implies it's a black man who dresses as a woman and it's actually a white man who dresses as a man?

I mean, unless you're using some new definition, that is textbook irony

mh, Saturday, 7 January 2012 05:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, my twitter handle implies that I'm an owl (actually, I'm human)

IMO people who name themselves after a celebrity don't really imply anything but them being a fan of that celebrity

also it's not clear to me you tried at all to understand the specificity of elmo's observation; it's not really transportable to kobe bryant.

is there any way I can explain this that won't have people jumping down my throat?

frogbs, Saturday, 7 January 2012 05:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

estela, Saturday, 7 January 2012 05:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

xpost: no, but please keep trying :-)

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 7 January 2012 07:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

think there's a frog in yr throat

bob loblaw people (dayo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 14:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I see a CRUCIFIED FROG and I'm like "why a cup? why an egg?"

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

yo, what are the implications of having a varg vikernes avatar? that's cool rite?

― Mordy, Friday, January 6, 2012 10:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok obv nobody else is gonna say it

no

no, that's not cool mordy

i'm sorry

― carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, January 7, 2012 1:57 AM (14 hours ago)

not even the shopped pic of varg with the cat?

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Saturday, 7 January 2012 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

ironic fetishization of an unrepentant racist is one of hipsterdom and ILX's lowest moments

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 7 January 2012 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 7 January 2012 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

and liverpool's

carpy deems (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 January 2012 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

lEEE (Leee), Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

ironic fetishization of an unrepentant racist is one of hipsterdom and ILX's lowest moments

― pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, January 7, 2012 4:20 PM (2 hours ago)

How do you know the cat is racist?

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

the fact that ilx'ers keep getting trolled by varg references blows my mind

Mordy, Saturday, 7 January 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

sandy varginas

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Taken last week in a seaside town in England:

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

'LOVELY GOLLIES'

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy shit

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

genuinely thought labour had incinerated the last of those

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

they were emancipated by act of parliament last year, and now are free to settle in seaside giftshops throughout england

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's still a hardcore of golly-fanciers out there. Not sure there's a a middle ground between owning none and owning fifty. They generally seem to be confused, but not particularly vindictive, people of pensionable age who can't see what all the fuss is about.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol tories

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

that was an xpost but i mean

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

They were on jam jars less than ten years ago, iirc. I've no idea how that went on for so long.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's still a hardcore of golly-fanciers out there. Not sure there's a a middle ground between owning none and owning fifty. They generally seem to be confused, but not particularly vindictive, people of pensionable age who can't see what all the fuss is about.

― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, January 7, 2012 7:48 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

My parents used to be friends with a couple like this. Several rooms in their house were entirely decked out in golly art - painting, statues, dolls etc. They obv were the type of people you're describing but the one time I was in their house it really freaked me out. My mom warned me beforehand but it was still pretty jarring and very O_O to me.

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

lyons tea still had animated minstrel tv ads until maybe mid 2000's

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 00:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

hoooooly fuck i just remembered that my friend that i do not like got me one of those for christmas a few years ago because he was insistent that they aren't offensive in england (he took a semester abroad) and they were relevant in some comic book or something. this is the same friend who did blackface for halloween. fuck.

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Sunday, 8 January 2012 01:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

they were relevant in some comic book or something

That would be League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier.

lEEE (Leee), Sunday, 8 January 2012 01:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

also available in braille

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 01:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp yeah that was it

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Sunday, 8 January 2012 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

your friend sounds like a horrible, horrible person. who comes to this country and what they get out of it when they go back to the states is 'golliwogs aren't offensive there'

thomp, Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

ugh

thomp, Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbf ur country is, by that token, a horrible horrible country

I don't rly believe that tbf

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol no wait misread you nm

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbf england is a horrible, horrible country

thomp, Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

ya but i didn't want to have to be the one to say it

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

They generally seem to be confused, but not particularly vindictive, people of pensionable age who can't see what all the fuss is about.

Yeah that basically describes my grandma who used to collect golly pins from Robinsons jam, she's got loads of them.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

kirsty should have made up a golliwog as one of her WI craft fair entries imo

carpy deems (darraghmac), Sunday, 8 January 2012 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

I thought I remembered a similar story but couldn't quite recall, so googled "racist receipt" and hey! It looks like this is a charming common practice among cashiers!

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Sunday, 8 January 2012 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

he was insistent that they aren't offensive in england

No, they are.

this is the same friend who did blackface for halloween

Why the fuck is this person your friend? I mean, even in a 'friend I don't like' capacity?

emil.y, Sunday, 8 January 2012 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cracking up so hard at "my friend I do not like"

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Sunday, 8 January 2012 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

He added that the employee responsible for the receipt was a teen — who he believed was misguided by “hip hop culture.”

...and possibly violent video games.

pplains, Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

and Rob Schneider movies

unattractive on the inside (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh my god that receipt story

I am horrified and cracking up at the same time

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

PP, what video game uses that kind of language?

beachville, Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I dunno. I just thought it was funny dude was blaming hip-hop.

pplains, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, to be fair, I've heard the phrase "chinky eyes" dozens upon dozens of times in my life and approximately 100% of these occurrances were rap songs

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

well everything's okay then

bob loblaw people (dayo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

PP, what video game uses that kind of language?

http://gta.wikia.com/Chink

I was otherwise very normal before I became (onimo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Why the fuck is this person your friend? I mean, even in a 'friend I don't like' capacity?

it's complicated because he's a part of our group of six high school friends who still hang out and consider ourselves a "group" and everyone else in the group is at least annoyed with him but still consider him a part of the group, etc. and he emphasizes the racist stuff around me because he knows it gets to me. he's just one of those typical nerds who will not hear ANYTHING about how their actions are wrong. i don't really see him anymore and decided to ditch him completely after the blackface thing, but it's proven v difficult when my four other friends just go "eh what can you do, that's just how max is"

actually al shipley you might know him irl, he writes for the citypaper

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Sunday, 8 January 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think a lot of groups of friends have the one asshole who keeps being included for some unknown reason. Wild card? Reminds me of the Trainspotting thing where they describe what a sociopath Begbie was, and then they're all like, "What are you going to do? He's a mate.."

mh, Monday, 9 January 2012 01:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

my high school group had that, but then I moved to MA for college

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 01:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

And then he found you on ilx?

mh, Monday, 9 January 2012 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't really see him anymore and decided to ditch him completely after the blackface thing, but it's proven v difficult when my four other friends just go "eh what can you do, that's just how max is"

new board description

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

actually al shipley you might know him irl, he writes for the citypaper

― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Sunday, January 8, 2012 4:09 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wait waht i need some hints or a code or something

seasonal thug (some dude), Monday, 9 January 2012 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

zachlyon

buzza, Monday, 9 January 2012 02:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

his name is max, he started as an intern maybe two years ago and occasionally reviews movies

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Monday, 9 January 2012 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I thought I remembered a similar story but couldn't quite recall, so googled "racist receipt" and hey! It looks like this is a charming common practice among cashiers!

One of the minor quirks of the original customersucks board (about 10 years ago) was the periodic complaints about, er, 'purple people'.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 9 January 2012 04:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dr. Sheb Wooley's been dilligently working on a cure for that for 53 years.

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 January 2012 04:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

the thing that always bugged me is that the song clearly implied that the flying creature that ate people was itself the color purple.

yet Sheb throws a curveball when he mentions "eatin purple people and it sure is fine". so the people he eats are purple? dude musta been hella thin considering Prince and his minions were still decades away

unattractive on the inside (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 January 2012 04:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

so the punchline of the song bothers you?

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 January 2012 05:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

what can you do

max, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Important detail in the racist receipt story: “Some of the tweets I’ve gotten back are, ‘Why are you going to Papa John’s when you live in New York City?’” she said.

Also: he was insistent that they aren't offensive in england Even if this were true, how the hell would that make it OK to give one to you in the USA, where, by inference from his own statement, they are unquestionably offensive?

the Smurf who'll snatch your money (Je55e), Monday, 9 January 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol don't people realize that it's much less work to apologize than bend over backwards to weakly indicate you didn't do anything wrong...not to mention it's like, the RIGHT thing to do.

unattractive on the inside (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 January 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

honest question:

Has anyone ever made a real apology that actually mattered in the TMZ age? I mean, I though KKKramer sincerely apologized and that dude aint getting any work any time soon.

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 January 2012 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

that dude wasn't getting work before his outburst either. whereas mel gibson is doin alright.

iatee, Monday, 9 January 2012 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

mel gibsons apology was shit tho

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 January 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

there was one, but i forgot who

no one with powerful friends (lolroman polanski) ever has to sincerely apologize, they just have to wait

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Monday, 9 January 2012 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Elvis Costello.

pplains, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

his name is max, he started as an intern maybe two years ago and occasionally reviews movies

― Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:18 PM

http://www2.citypaper.com/about/masthead.asp

the marijuanaut farmer (am0n), Monday, 9 January 2012 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

never underestimate ILX's ability to blow up someone's spot

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp "research assistant" apparently

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Monday, 9 January 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, to be fair, I've heard the phrase "chinky eyes" dozens upon dozens of times in my life and approximately 100% of these occurrances were rap songs

the only people I know who say this are a friend who was born in the US but lived in China from ages 2 - 7 and her lily-white best friend from college; usually they are saying it to each other about Lucy Liu

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

neither of them is particularly into hip-hop, aside from Ludacris

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

that dude wasn't getting work before his outburst either. whereas mel gibson is doin alright

uhh is he? his "comeback" movie barely grossed $1m and i'm not sure if any movie producer would touch him at this point. he couldn't even hold down a cameo on Hangover 2.

frogbs, Monday, 9 January 2012 20:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

his "comeback" movie was about a dude who could only communicate with the world via a hand puppet, I'm surprised it grossed even that much

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

sesame st themes that didn no wait

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, to be fair, I've heard the phrase "chinky eyes" dozens upon dozens of times in my life and approximately 100% of these occurrances were rap songs

the only people I know who say this are a friend who was born in the US but lived in China from ages 2 - 7 and her lily-white best friend from college; usually they are saying it to each other about Lucy Liu

― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, January 9, 2012 3:23 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

At my old job the (mostly black and/or latino) kids I worked with used it pretty frequently to describe themselves or one another if they had even slightly almond shaped or small eyes. Not that it means anything but I heard it used pretty often then.

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

I remember telling one of my girls that she probably shouldn't use that term when she was saying she hoped her baby got her eyes and she was like "Why not? It's a good thing - I love my chink eyes!" :/

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah FYI Gibson's career is over (thankfully)

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

As much as I want that to be true, I doubt it. He'll never be as big as he once was, but he'll get more chances.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

little mister sundance

gnome rocognise gnome (remy bean), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean sure, that's probably not going to be his last starring vehicle, but I can't see him headlining a high-profile movie again. I mean the last 10 years have not been kind to him (physically) and his last couple have tanked horribly. i'm not sure what's left for him.

frogbs, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Directing, most likely. I don't know, I'm not trying to defend the douche in the least and I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong, but the ability for Hollywood to forgive never ceases to amaze me and I won't rule out a "humble" return behind the camera some day.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

When I was a waiter I was standing in a full dining room next to a busboy who was singing

[Chingy] what's up?
(Why yo eyes so chinky?) I dunno
(Is it because you've been smoking and drinking?)

And I had to explain to him that that was absolutely not OK to say in front of guests or anywhere. He said he didn't realize it was a bad word, and he said "I'll just say "Why yo eyes Chingy" instead of "chinky." I tried to explain that that was not a good substitute, and anyway, rapping or singing in the dining room was also not really OK. And anyway, the rest of the words were not acceptable for other reasons:

Maybe so
(I've been thinking) huh?
(Maybe you come get me) and do what?
(Round the town, then take me home and eat me)
Okay

the Smurf who'll snatch your money (Je55e), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

LooooL

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

man I don't think I've ever heard anyone use chinky eyes irl

gook or slant-eyed, maybe

bob loblaw people (dayo), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

that reminds me

bob loblaw people (dayo), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've been around some casual racism, but I've never heard chinky eyes either.

pplains, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

anybody remember this fiasco?

Officers Ticket Drivers for Non-English Speaking

Neanderthal, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

when I worked in a restaurant, racism was tossed around casually by everyone, including managers. which was interesting cuz the staff itself was pretty multicultural.

working in restaurants is a great place to meet lowlifes and degenerates iirc

Neanderthal, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

worst 5 years of my life

Neanderthal, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Directing, most likely.

last thing he was rumored to be involved with was the Joe Esterhaz-penned movie about Judah and the Maccabees. I bet that goes over real well.

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, restaurants are awful for casual racism. Have we talked about "Canadians" itt yet?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp: that's not racist, just stupid/lazy

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

I had a third grade teacher that instead of giving us those canned scenarios for math problems, had us write our own. it was hell of a lot more fun working on problems with scenarios like

50 Santa Clauses traveled down the chimney one night
25 got burnt in the fire
How many Santas are left?

Neanderthal, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

0, because there's no such thing as Santa Clause

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nice page code at the end of that URL there.

pplains, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh damn lol

Neanderthal, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

DreamWorks gives Michael Richards voiceover work in things like Bee Movie & his asking price as a speaker is still 100k. "Speaking engagements" by dudes who've been as famous as him go on way under the radar afaik & nobody every hears anything about it & they net ridiculous money. Once you hurdle to "actually famous" you have to be an idiot to go broke, your agent will find you enough work to keep you rich.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

is that in reference to Gibson

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

cuz if so I mean yeah dude is never going to be poor. but he is also never going to be a major force in Hollywood again

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I guess he might become poor if he rapes or murders somebody and goes to jail

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Michael Richards hasn't worked regularly as an actor since Seinfeld went off the air, regardless of outburst

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I suck at math but if he invested like a couple million from the last season in a safe interest-bearing account doesn't that kinda keep the cash flowing?

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

omar little, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

the contention wasn't about anyone going broke, it was about ppl getting work after their embarrassing racist outbursts; at any rate Richards unambiguously apologized multiple times after that incident and it had about zero impact on people's hiring decisions re: him (ie, he is still getting hired by Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld and... no one else)

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i think w/r/t richards it's all-too-easy to suggest it destroyed his career when really, his ashen-faced appearances on tv in the weeks following his outburst were his biggest non-seinfeld roles ever.

omar little, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think aero's saying that they should have .... taken all of his money??

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I guess he might become poor if he rapes or murders somebody and goes to jail

Yes because Roman Polanski is certainly being ignored these days.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

apples and oranges there

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know, I know. Just sayin' that a couple of you guys are acting like its 100% inconceivable that Hollywood would ever even acknowledge Gibson again.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Polanski kept making good movies, though.

...and a lot of hilariously bad or ridiculous ones

mh, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

brb gotta go find a copy of The Ninth Gate

mh, Monday, 9 January 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Gibson's pissed off too many people. Foster tried to help him out and failed. at this point, the only other big name probably willing to lend their credibility to a Gibson project is maybe Robert Downey Jr.

xp

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think he's ruined because the industry of Hollywood has an image and a social narrative that it hews to really closely, and there's no room in that narrative for the redemptive third act of an artless/talentless, white, male, hetero, racist, wifebeating drunk - reformed or otherwise. "Industry Warmly Accepts a Reformed Gibson" is not a headline any Hollywood player wants to write.

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

all things considered, Polanski had several cards in his favor that Gibson does not

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

well liked by his peers, sympathy over the Tate murder, his amazing run of canonical films in the 70s, the ambiguity of the charges/public calls for forgiveness by the victim etc

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Okay Shakey, the Polanski call out was just a tossed off comment. I do understand why his case is hugely different.

I don't really want to argue about this anymore becaue I too hope
Gibson is never heard from again, but I fear thats wishful thinking.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think he's ruined because the industry of Hollywood has an image and a social narrative that it hews to really closely, and there's no room in that narrative for the redemptive third act of an artless/talentless, white, male, hetero, racist, wifebeating drunk - reformed or otherwise. "Industry Warmly Accepts a Reformed Gibson" is not a headline any Hollywood player wants to write.

― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 22:57 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idk wasn't there press of his kinda modest rehabilitation, w r downey jr & some pals at some award ceremony. if the guy was likely to make another zillion dollar faith movie or something i'm sure people would be all over him. i feel like there's a weird thing where he can now exist just with the by-now-familiar tag of 'asshole' attached to him, it prob makes it easier for him to occasionally be caught being an asshole w/o too much fallout

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

he had been existing comfortably with that tag since at least the Lethal Weapon movies, I don't see why he needed to escalate

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

the Beaver was his gambit for serious redemption, and if it had done well/been good H'wood probably would've welcomed him back a bit - but that didn't happen

for what it's worth, I was surprised he sawed off his forearm for his role in the Beaver. how's he going to beat his wife now?

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Important detail in the racist receipt story: “Some of the tweets I’ve gotten back are, ‘Why are you going to Papa John’s when you live in New York City?’” she said.

― the Smurf who'll snatch your money (Je55e), Monday, January 9, 2012 11:17 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'll admit that this was first thought too, I mean I know they have those dipping sauces and all but still

lag∞n, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp got me stumped

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

You gotta hand it to him for trying, I guess.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

the Beaver was his gambit for serious redemption, and if it had done well/been good H'wood probably would've welcomed him back a bit - but that didn't happen

yeah so hilariously the thing that is keeping mg from redemption is the quality of his movies, the quality of movies that star mel gibson

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mel Gibson was in some very good movies!

I mean, I know he was in even more terrible ones, but still.

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

"some" is being overly generous, I'll give you "one"

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i know its not a movie hes in but apocalypto is the fn best

lag∞n, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

omg I was just looking up his filmography and Mad Max 4 is coming out this year??????

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

(ya Apocalypto is fucking incredible, that movie should not work nearly that well)

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

isn't he making a movie abt the maccabees now, id watch the racism out of that

lag∞n, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Apocalypto is unwatchable nonsense y'all are high as fuck

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

also that one thats all slowmo shots of jesus getting stomped, i havent seen it but its a p out there concept

lag∞n, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

u might dig that one shakey

lag∞n, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

"unwatchable nonsense" is best reserved for movies like Red Riding Hood, which I texted through this weekend

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

lynch to thread

carpy deems (darraghmac), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

omg

bob loblaw people (dayo), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

wtf

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

WHAT?!

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

u might dig that one shakey

nah me and Jesus are tight bros

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

x-post - Wait that has to be doctored, right?

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

or a . . . coincidence?

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 January 2012 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's classic Olsen twin MO, don't forget this:

three guesses who the first one to mention chicken is

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

here's a hint:

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

a) O_O
b) how have I never seen that?

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Monday, 9 January 2012 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

so weird that both olsen twins had strokes simultaneously during the filming of that first video

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

DJP you posted the wrong Gimme Pizza

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp not strokes, botox

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp which somebody went to extra lengths to call "gangsta" in the opening titles of that version, wtf

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Am I wrong, or do all of Mel Gibson's directorial ventures feature half-naked men hitting other men with sharp objects?

mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

onto something

carpy deems (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

all his good ones are 2 hour chase sequences: mad max 2, apocalypto, passion of the christ

caek, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

sorry old

caek, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

is this racist

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 13:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Did u watch her little Wayne one? If not, do so. Now.

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 13:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow, Kreayshawn fell off fast

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 14:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

you know what else belongs on this thread, is the verb "to black up"

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

although that is small potatoes compared to: In 2009, Dresden Zoo had to apologise after naming a small baboon after Mr Obama.

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Many older black actors come from the music industry, and that wasn't a fit for the play as it wasn't a musical," he told The Local newspaper.

"When we couldn't find an elderly black actor who fit the role and could speak with a perfect German accent, we opted for blackface make-up."

He said he was saddened by the controversy: "I tried to make a play about racism and ended up being called a racist".

looooooooooooooooooool

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Convincing Indian guy here in One Armed Boxer

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

"to black up", Dan? Like, "he was really blacking up the place"?

beachville, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Director Thomas Schendel said they had been unable to find the right elderly black actor to play the role of Midge Carter so had opted for blacking-up 76-year-old white actor Joachim Bliese.

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh holy shit all of that but also the baboon thing!! :(

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

if there's one person who I would expect to be totally tone-deaf to the phrase "black up", it's Butterfly

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Do we reckon that basically it is wrong for anyone to ever play someone of a different race than themselves, or is it only wrong for whitey to play black people?

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

or neither?

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

generally speaking, I think it is tied to the performance but it's usually safer not to do it

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

you know what else belongs on this thread, is the verb "to black up"

I'm kind of surprised by this*, as I've only heard it used to mean "to colour one's face", rather than, for example, the "adopt a comedy walk" end of the spectrum. I mean it's obviously always a pretty bad idea, but I thought the description was being.. descriptive? Like "skin lightening" but without the skin.

*And, obviously, a little defensive :)

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's a US/UK thing I think

or maybe a DJP/rest of the world thing, I dunno

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah I don't think "black up" is offensive in that sentence. it's the idea you have a problem with.

Do we reckon that basically it is wrong for anyone to ever play someone of a different race than themselves, or is it only wrong for whitey to play black people?

heh heh heh

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i play someone of a different race than myself in skyrim

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

For me, the question is why the hell does a German theatre want to do a production of "I'm Not Rappaport".

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

If I was the production manager I would've thought.. "yeah this flew last time we did it in like the 80s or whatever, but I don't think we should put this on again unless we can find an actually black actor to fill the roll..."

I dunno - or maybe I'd be a common, parochial German and think that there was absolutely nothing wrong with this.

Seriously though, if they couldn't find the right actor that's maybe a sign not to put on the play; and I think that kind of theater superstition crosses all nationalities. But then - on the other other hand -- I remember plenty of times where there weren't enough dudes in high school drama and so a few boy parts were given to girls, who had to -- I suppose -- "man up" for the part.

Frobisher (Viceroy), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Socks with sandals, people in blackface, so many ways to spot the German tourists

mh, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

you left out speedos

locally sourced stabbage (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

germans are pretty racist

caek, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://gawker.com/5874912/

LOL @ Gawker's first "Is this thing that doesnt exist yet hypothetically racist?" post. Congrats, team.

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

LONG DUCK DONG

bob loblaw people (dayo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm excited about this tumblr:

http://racistpoliticalads.tumblr.com/

polyphonic, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

or maybe a DJP/rest of the world thing, I dunno

hey no-one ever tell Dan backstage to "break a leg" ok?

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://gawker.com/5874912/

LOL @ Gawker's first "Is this thing that doesnt exist yet hypothetically racist?" post. Congrats, team.

― pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:15 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

shit hypothetical white girls in blackface say to the internet

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's a US/UK thing I think

I think there is something to this... an act which would be racist/offensive in some contexts is not so in other where the same cultural resonances do not apply.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm kind of surprised by this*, as I've only heard it used to mean "to colour one's face", rather than, for example, the "adopt a comedy walk" end of the spectrum.

I can't think of an occasion (like, a potential real-life occurance) in which colring one's face to appear as of a different race wouldn't inately be "adopting a comedy walk" to some extent.

beachville, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 13:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

^ was always surprised they got away with this tbh

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is that Vic and Bob?

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, am I the only one that keeps reading it as Eshitaki?

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Vic and Bob as Otis Redding and Marvin Gaye, "Just sittin' on the dock of the beaaayyyyyyy"

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man I'm not really questioning the racism of this, but its been bugging me so much. We've got this middle-aged white guy here at work that starts talking in, I don't know, some bastardized version of ebonics whenever he talks to one of our black coworkers. I kind of thought I was imagining it or mishearing him or something at first, but now that someone else pointed it out I can't stop noticing it. For example he'll say, "you be survivin', huh?" or "I can dig that miss thing" to our HR head, but he never says any of those things to white coworkers. Its maddening now that I had it pointed out to me.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Silly old fool

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

this may be a subconscious reaction in some people

frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have a very good friend who subconsciously parrots back accents to people; this can get very embarrassing for him very quickly but it is almost always hilarious

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

this may be a subconscious reaction in some people

― frogbs, Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:36 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i hear that, ribbit ribbit

seasonal thug (some dude), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Vic and Bob as Otis Redding and Marvin Gaye, "Just sittin' on the dock of the beaaayyyyyyy"

― Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:29 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, that's what I thought it was. I was wondering if they'd done other similar stuff I hadn't seen.

☆★☆彡彡 (ENBB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is definitely not a case of parroting accents though, particularly the word choices he uses.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ugh I HATE that. Especially when the speaker normally talks completely not that way at all. My ex-bf sort of picked up a "jive" accent in social settings around black people, esp women, and it was kind of annoying but he was younger and he regularly used slang and generally talked "younger". That guy sounds like a dorky dad trying to fit in.

Je55e, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I did that yesterday while talking to a white guy I work with who has a heavy, heavy southern accent. A couple of things i said came out really southern. It can happen subconciously.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

pplains, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^ Accschent adopting raschist

I certainly wouldn't have, but hey. (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've been known to slip into a Southern tinged accent if I'm down in Texas long enough, but I'm really hyper aware of it and also its not racist.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

some dude, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

i saw this old SNL skit about Roots where US Senator Al Franken was wearing darkening makeup to play a slave O_O

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

<3 u whiney never change

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

The episode of Sarah Silverman's show where she did blackface was one of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

racist

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

the only time I do this is when I'm talking with people from the U.P., having lived in Wisconsin nearly all my life I have this kind of "latent" accent somewhere that only comes out when everyone around me is speaking with it, it's totally involuntary

frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have no choice but to alter my accent else (some of) these fuckers here in London won't understand me

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've had about four different accents growing up and can lapse into any of them very easily if speaking to someone from any of those areas

I could see where you could lapse into different modes of speech with different ppl, tho, that's not hard to do?

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i'm a terrible accent parrot, sure i've told the story about my embarrassing pronunciation of "five pounds?" at the Giant's Causeway carpark

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

feev pinds?

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

s?

hegel-lacan girl (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

sounded like Martin McGuinness getting a bit bolshy, everybody else in the car fell about laughing. totally unconscious i swear.

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Both my parents will develop strong West Indian accents when they're around people from the Caribbean. As my mother's a middle-class white lady in her sixties from Chingford, it can be a little incongruous.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

tingford

til the power failure (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I once saw a brief sketch on some UK TV programme in which two blacked up minstrels were listening to the radio, on which some rightwing politician was saying that minstrels had no place in Britain and that they should all be deported to Minstrel-land or wherever they came from. This made the minstrels sad, so they ch