US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

Re: the pivot. I meant from the rest of the gop and their media, so far it seems they would rather deflect and move on than do this, of course trump has already tried this, but he says all sorts of wacky shit.

If the investigation had actually been started by the Steele dossier, it would have been kinda similar, though.

I continue to be perplexed by the dismassal of the Steele dossier as some kind of hack job. To my understanding It's deeply sourced and has been largely corroborated, w/ exception of pee tape stuff (which, there's totally a pee tape)

One of the claims of Trump world is that the Dossier was illegal because Hillary's campaign was relying on a foreign operative to dig up dirt. If what Trump is doing is kosher then that argument is moat.

But Trump is in the right because the dirt he is trying to dig up is totally true, but the dirt Hillary's campaign was trying to dig up was totally fake. Ipso facto.

pointing out GOP/Trump hypocrisy is about the most toothless argument we have

that's why i made it on a politics thread not a tv ad

Yeah I just read the execrable Marc Thiessen arguing that "Democrats told us opposition research is okay and everybody does it."

So the argument is not just "whatever the president does is fine," but "because a Democrat kinda did a thing once, Democrats can't complain now." Because Both Sides.

Weirdly, I have been unable to use this tactic successfully in my dealings with the law: "But officer, there was this one time that a Republican killed someone. Both Sides!"

Except that Fusion GPS is not another country

pointing out GOP/Trump hypocrisy is about the most toothless argument we have

This is true but may become even more incredibly depressing if there should happen to be a Supreme Court vacancy next year.

Except that Fusion GPS is not another country

And DNC / Clinton campaign were not the President, exercising national policy for the entire government in pursuit of political advantage.

But otherwise, yeah totally the same thing. Both Sides!

Perry also just said yesterday or the day before that he would cooperate with any investigations so he must be trying to save his ass.

The correct response to anyone attempting the 'BOTH SIDES!' argument is 'shut your fucking whataboutist piehole you propagandizing fuck'. IIRC.

one other response to try is to let them know about all the other sides that are involved or could be involved. it's not just both sides, it's these other two sides! and these two! and those two! UP IN THE CORNER AS WELL! and beneath you. you're surrounded!

...AND ALL OF THEM DO IT EQUALLY!

the latest in the best-selling series of limited edition VHS politically-oriented porn: Both Sides Do It

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damn

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^the action shot of chuck grassley that is so sexy it broke the image

I've looked at solicitation of foreign assistance in election-related matters from both sides now
From up and down and still somehow
It's just 'covfefe' I recall
I really don't know solicitation of foreign assistance in election-related matters at all

I remember when we had scandals over whether Al Gore made fundraising phone calls from one side of the street or the other

so he must be trying to save his ass.

with sharks like cruz and romney still hovering around the edges of the scene one forgets that this perry fellow was interested in being president himself

new polling from Morning Consult showing Trump is underwater in battleground states of Arizona (his net approval is down 23 points since his presidency began), Colorado (down 16), Florida (down 23), Iowa (down 22), Michigan (down 18), New Hampshire (down 23), North Carolina (down 21), Pennsylvania (down 17) and Wisconsin (down 17), and you see what could amount to an electoral disaster in the making.

wish we could hold the election in nov 2019.

that is very good news though

i know i just posted this on the impeachment thread, but just in case there's someone who reads this thread and not the other dozen trump threads,

Trump goes on rant about the UK, Australia and Italy plotting against him during the 2016 campaign. pic.twitter.com/8pDZxd6IKT

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 4, 2019

he is truly becoming....unhinged. and he sources say he is making claims...without evidence

In other news, the unemployment rate just hit 3.5%, the lowest it's been in 50 years. So all continues to be well in the best of all possible worlds.

the most ppl w/ shitty jobs

(and i'm one)

Be thankful you don't live in Sweden, where the unemployment rate is 7.4%.

"unhinged" is a good description of that twitter video. it's like watching the world's worst magician wave his left hand about to distract you from the explicit treason he's doing in front of a camera with the right hand.

corruption is an emotion, something you can just "feel"

It's the countries he DOESN'T blame, maaan.

President Stillson

i saw that his net approval rating (approval balanced with disapproval) was basically zero in pretty surprising places like North and South Dakota. So yes, holding out hope we have the biggest electoral college blowout in history.

Yeah, I wanna see Nixon - McGovern numbers.

do we really need a primary thread, a politics thread, and an impeach trump thread?? fuck

It's kind of a mess right now, and let's not forget the Bernie and Biden threads!

or the AOC thread or the is Trump a psychopath thread

do we really need any threads at all

do we really need a primary thread, a politics thread, and an impeach trump thread??

a game, a grind, and a prayer

Anyway would be much easier to wrangle if we could get that ILP board!

also would facilitate bulk ignoring

do we really need a primary thread, a politics thread, and an impeach trump thread?? fuck

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, October 4, 2019 1:35 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's kind of a mess right now, and let's not forget the Bernie and Biden threads!

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, October 4, 2019

F: Impeach Trump Y/N
M: US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.
K: 2020 Democratic presidential primary

tbf, this is such a shitshow I'm surprised there aren't more threads. I mean, there are probably over 100 Led Zeppelin threads, and this is the Led Zeppelin of shitshows.

Ignoring something you're not interested in is actually pretty easy. Like, you see a thread about it and... don't read it. Doesn't seem that tough; maybe I am missing something.

i'm interested in all of it, that's the whole thing

Trump: "African Americans built this nation. You built this nation. You know, you're just starting to get real credit for that. I don't know if you know that. You're just starting to get - you built the nation. We all built it. But you were such a massive part of it."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 4, 2019

the least racist man you've ever met shares his wisdom

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