2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Bernie Sanders
Tim Kaine
Michael Bloomberg
Andrew Cuomo
Cory Booker
Kamala Harris
Tammy Duckworth
Jay Inslee
Terry McAuliffe
Joe Biden
Elizabeth Warren
Alison Lundergan Grimes
Martin O'Malley
someone else


slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:10 (two years ago) Permalink

Gillebrand?

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:10 (two years ago) Permalink

ah fuck oh well

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:11 (two years ago) Permalink

oprah ✔️

bayland rippenkroeger, stunt artiste (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:11 (two years ago) Permalink

Symmetry required gabbneb to start this.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:12 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm on my lunch break

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:12 (two years ago) Permalink

police state, no more elections!!!

I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:15 (two years ago) Permalink

plz don't

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:19 (two years ago) Permalink

warren i guess

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 20:25 (two years ago) Permalink

eager beaver here

F♯ A♯ (∞), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:15 (two years ago) Permalink

imago otm

the late great, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:27 (two years ago) Permalink

gotta be Hilary, show those misogynists they can't win

sheer presence, look and size (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:45 (two years ago) Permalink

most of these people suck

marcos, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:46 (two years ago) Permalink

I think we need to recruit bruce springsteen

iatee, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:48 (two years ago) Permalink

god, politics suck

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:49 (two years ago) Permalink

martin omalley dot com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1SdjRSqqHE

marcos, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:50 (two years ago) Permalink

tbf even the lamest of these accommodating fucks will represent real change in 2020

sheer presence, look and size (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:51 (two years ago) Permalink

let us see what happens tomorrow

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:52 (two years ago) Permalink

Duckworth hasn't distinguished herself during the nomination process/voting, but theoretically I'm okay with putting up a veteran/child of an immigrant up against Trump.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 21:59 (two years ago) Permalink

gotta be Hilary, show those misogynists they can't win

OTM

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:02 (two years ago) Permalink

really don't wanna know what Trump would have to say about Tammy Duckworth.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:04 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm basically on board for Harris and Duckworth; I don't know if Jay Inslee is really likely to explore a run but he's been a good governor and maybe he will gain some national prominence suing the present administration.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:05 (two years ago) Permalink

I like every one of these people and would happily vote for them and give my money to their campaign

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:07 (two years ago) Permalink

same goes for HRC btw

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:11 (two years ago) Permalink

And Buttigieg! What about my man Buttigieg?!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:11 (two years ago) Permalink

stoppppppppppp dave stoppppppppppp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Disclaimer - I'm a midwesterner and probably don't know enough about my proposal here: I'm really not super-aware of his politics (I know progressives have tried to run against him in primaries in CA), but something always gets me about Gavin Newsom whenever he's on Real Time or news programs. I know he's done good things for homeless issues/causes. same-sex marriage, marijuana legalization, etc. There's a gravitas about him that just telegraphs potential youth vote/new blood presidential candidate.

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:14 (two years ago) Permalink

gavin newsom has skeletons in his closet

the late great, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:18 (two years ago) Permalink

i think at this point he is a bit too much of a stereotypical big city liberal w/ loose morals to really make a palatable national candidate

maybe when he is older

the late great, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:19 (two years ago) Permalink

Newsom and Harris both strike me as too in-the-bed with finance/Clinton neoliberalism to get people excited to turn out in vote. (Alternately, the Dems might be able to nominate Roger Clinton and Billy Carter in 2020 and win.)

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:19 (two years ago) Permalink

wait he's a pirate? xp

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:20 (two years ago) Permalink

(not to even mention Bloomberg)

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:20 (two years ago) Permalink

actually the shit i am referring to happened when i was living in the bay area which was about 10 years ago now, i.e. ancient history, maybe it doesn't matter

the late great, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:22 (two years ago) Permalink

newsom is kind of a dumbass too and the gop would like to highlight his tenure as mayor of sodom aka san francisco when this happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGBgb0XKVs

he's also dated a 19 year old

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2581600

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:25 (two years ago) Permalink

FISH CANNOT CARRY GUNS

and also Kamala Harris and Joe Biden

potential grizzly (remy bean), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:25 (two years ago) Permalink

There's a gravitas about him that just telegraphs potential

honestly thought this sentence was gonna end 'serial killer'

iatee, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:26 (two years ago) Permalink

Brittanie Mountz sounds like a porn name

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:28 (two years ago) Permalink

i dated a 19 year old

admittedly its not in the top ten reasons im not gunning for the top political jobs but still

Mother Teresa May I (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:30 (two years ago) Permalink

maybe not for 2020 but i wonder of mahty wahlsh has national ambitions, esp seeing the way he's come out against trump's immigration ban. he might be all right, he has union support and working class youth, people are weirdly enamored w/ boston accents

marcos, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:32 (two years ago) Permalink

working class youth roots

marcos, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:32 (two years ago) Permalink

republicans claim the moral high ground by hiring teenagers for sex, not dating them

the free market at work

bayland rippenkroeger, stunt artiste (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:33 (two years ago) Permalink

almost put him on the list actually xp

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:33 (two years ago) Permalink

he's also dated a 19 year old

nice

j., Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:34 (two years ago) Permalink

almost put him on the list actually xp

dmac???

bayland rippenkroeger, stunt artiste (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:36 (two years ago) Permalink

all growed up

Brittanie Rae Mountz, LMFT offers individual and couples counseling. Offices in San Francisco and Berkeley.

salthigh, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:36 (two years ago) Permalink

he might be all right, he has union support

Unions will be systematically starved of members and money between now and 2018 at least

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:39 (two years ago) Permalink

yea i meant more that he can signal working class empathy & support better than someone like HRC

marcos, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:53 (two years ago) Permalink

Marty Walsh is interesting – but untested. If, however, we can dig up Menino and insert some kind of robotic endoskeleton. Or what about Somerville, Massachusetts' own Joseph Curtatone?

potential grizzly (remy bean), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 22:54 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah the dating a 19 year old thing is what i was getting at

the late great, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:06 (two years ago) Permalink

really it was nothing sheesh

Mother Teresa May I (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:07 (two years ago) Permalink

I understand Warren's reasoning for not going on Fox, and each candidate has to play to their strengths and decide their own path but it still feels like something of a missed opportunity

anvil, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 17:02 (six days ago) Permalink

the opportunity to brutally dunk on the #1 US cable news network in a manner that guarantees a disproportionate response and increased coverage from other, fairer outlets > the opportunity to be condescended to by that network's on-air personalities and have one's message ignored by its wet-brained, knuckle-walking viewers

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 17:05 (six days ago) Permalink

There probably are GOP-ers who, in a post-Trump world, will be looking for some sort of Operation Paperclip-esque reentry into the civilized world which allows them to pooh-pooh their former hatemongering, but they'll probably be few and far between because I think they'll mostly still be sitting pretty in the mess they helped to create.

Have you ever had a dream that you um you had your you you could you (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 17:12 (six days ago) Permalink

ultimately I think it was fine for Bernie to do it, but if you're not going to do it then the way Warren went about declining is absolutely the way to go, just go scorched-earth on those assholes.


agreed

gbx, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 17:13 (six days ago) Permalink

how has no one on the thread mentioned the newly announced candidacy of Montana Gov. Steve Bullock???????

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 18:15 (six days ago) Permalink

is his hope that this kind of rhetoric will win over former trump voters?

Why do people keep saying this? I guess as a side effect it's possible some low-information voters who chose Trump out of some vague sense Clinton was "dirty" might vote for Joe Biden. But Biden's message is aimed squarely at a totally different group -- old Democrats. He is one! That's his identity politics!

No matter who's running, old Democrats are a lot more likely to show up and vote than young Democrats. Now tactically I guess you have to ways to go from that uncontroversial fact: a) "older people are where the votes are so aim your message at them" or b) "older people are gonna show up and vote for us anyway, it's just what they do, so the margin is all in messages aimed at the young people."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 18:20 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah biden's p dumb but on this one thing he might be more otm than i'm usually willing to credit him.

not that the GOP will actually come to its senses once trump's out--that's preposterous. but i suspect this whole 'play nice and work together' bullshit polls pretty well with older democratic primary voters.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 18:30 (six days ago) Permalink

No matter who's running, old Democrats are a lot more likely to show up and vote than young Democrats.

Which will be explained/justified to a great extent by the selection of Joe Biden as the 2020 democratic nominee.

Have you ever had a dream that you um you had your you you could you (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 18:34 (six days ago) Permalink

Being just as dumb as your base is a version of "otm" I'm unfamiliar with.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 19:33 (six days ago) Permalink

not much more reality-based than Yooknowwho

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:57 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah not so much “otm” as surprisingly savvy. I’m the last to attribute either of these things to Biden the man, but if his campaign is centered on making aging Dems (who turn the fuck up for primaries) nostalgic for the relative comity they think they remember from the last half of the 20th Century, it could work out for him.

which would goddamn suck, obv

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:06 (six days ago) Permalink

This made me laugh. (And if you don't hear it in DMX's voice by the time you get to "Felicia," I don't trust your opinions on culture.)

There was Brenda, LaTisha, Linda, Felicia, Dawn, LeShaun, Ines, and Alicia, Teresa, Monica, Sharron, Nicki
Lisa, Veronica, Karen, Vicky
Cookie, well, I met her in a ice cream parlor, Tonya, Diane, Lori, and Carla
Marina, Selena, Katrina, Sabrina
About three Kims, LaToya, and Tina https://t.co/vryJJVBTrY

— David Dennis Jr. (@DavidDTSS) May 14, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 23:49 (six days ago) Permalink

Paul Heaton or GTFO

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 07:38 (five days ago) Permalink

I thought it was Phiphe from Butter at first

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 13:11 (five days ago) Permalink

same

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 13:36 (five days ago) Permalink

Gravel teens 1, Delaney 0

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 15:23 (five days ago) Permalink

Sen. Warren just finished batting around Joseph Otting, the comptroller of currency at Treasury, over policing Wells Fargo. She called his office a “low bar” for oversight.

OTTING: “I find it insulting that you would make that comment.”

WARREN: “Good.” pic.twitter.com/flzdrBa2t1

— Dan Zak (@MrDanZak) May 15, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:06 (five days ago) Permalink

ok but this "let's green up the US military!" angle of hers fucking sucks and I'll let a HOOS take it from here on why

the short answer is that rather than retrofitting the single biggest polluter in the world we could reduce its footprint by, for example, closing some of our 800+ bases https://t.co/SBxaKU9NBg

— justin jacoby smith (@hoosteen) May 15, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:35 (five days ago) Permalink

Did we cover yesterday’s big story?

More presidential candidates should have mustaches pic.twitter.com/xD9kFxFW7O

— the mustache thread guy (@dagotron) May 11, 2019

JoeStork, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 16:55 (five days ago) Permalink

lol remember this guy

Beto is livestreaming his haircut pic.twitter.com/xAuBtC7BWe

— Joe Perticone (@JoePerticone) May 15, 2019

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 May 2019 05:59 (four days ago) Permalink

Next up, live-streaming his hit on Buttigieg for stealing Beto’s thunder.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 16 May 2019 06:37 (four days ago) Permalink

Never noticed the faint resemblance to Rick Perry before.

pplains, Thursday, 16 May 2019 09:05 (four days ago) Permalink

Uh-oh, De Blasio!

Independent Living Ass (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 May 2019 12:09 (four days ago) Permalink

lol please

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 16 May 2019 12:30 (four days ago) Permalink

At this rate they might as well make the race opt-out.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 May 2019 12:58 (four days ago) Permalink

Some of these guys are doing that thing where they get so overwhelmed with their current projects, deadlines at work that instead of figuring it out they just look for another job.

Yerac, Thursday, 16 May 2019 13:29 (four days ago) Permalink

afaik Bill dB ain't done much, but I'll give him this:

The police unions hate him.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:07 (four days ago) Permalink

Hi, Joe Biden campaigned for anti-abortion Republican Fred Upton in Michigan last year and got paid $200,000 to do it.

Upton won.https://t.co/myyFPZx50L

— Steph Is Not Having This Nonsense🌹 (@RantsByDesign) May 16, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:52 (four days ago) Permalink

And looking forward to digging into this later

Even if you don't support a candidate (or maybe especially if you don't support them) you should make an effort to understand their appeal. No one has explained the appeal of Joe Biden better than @blauwsteen in this splendid piece. https://t.co/SGzEZCb6p0

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) May 17, 2019

Simon H., Friday, 17 May 2019 03:07 (three days ago) Permalink

I don’t need to read an article to understand the appeal of Joe Biden. I understand it here. Right here. *taps the heart area*

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 17 May 2019 03:31 (three days ago) Permalink

I don’t need to read an article to understand the appeal of Joe Biden. I understand it here. Right here. *strokes the hair area*

anvil, Friday, 17 May 2019 03:40 (three days ago) Permalink

that was a good read.

:∵·∴·∵: (crüt), Friday, 17 May 2019 03:42 (three days ago) Permalink

It really is.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 17 May 2019 07:05 (three days ago) Permalink

Does anyone really need an explainer on the appeal of Obama’s VP who’s also an old white centrist who talks about bipartisanship?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 17 May 2019 09:19 (three days ago) Permalink

You might.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 May 2019 09:25 (three days ago) Permalink

Warren rules: https://medium.com/@teamwarren/congressional-action-to-protect-choice-aaf94ed25fb5

DJI, Friday, 17 May 2019 20:44 (three days ago) Permalink

OK wow:

Consider one remarkable detail from his memoir. He gave a eulogy at the funeral of one of the two police officers killed in New York City in 2014; the remarkable thing is not the eulogy itself but what he tells one of the widows privately. Right now everyone is there for you, he says, but eventually they’ll go back to normal, and then grief will get harder: “After a while you’re going to start to feel guilty because you’re going to be going to the same people constantly for help, or just to talk.” So he gives her his private number: “When you’re down and you feel guilty for burdening your family and friends, pick up the phone and call me.” The reader glimpses a secret society of grievers:

I have a long list of strangers who have my private number, and an invitation to call, and many of them do. “Just call me when you want to talk,” I told her. “Sometimes it’s easier to pour your heart out to somebody you don’t know well, but you know they know. You know they’ve been through it. Just pick up the phone and call me.”

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:04 (three days ago) Permalink

from the NR story

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:04 (three days ago) Permalink

maybe later we can go get ice cream and grieve some more 😍😍

lumen (esby), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:31 (three days ago) Permalink

I just googled "grief paraphilia".

Yerac, Friday, 17 May 2019 21:43 (three days ago) Permalink

bwaaa

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 May 2019 21:44 (three days ago) Permalink

he shd be a grief counselor, not president

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 May 2019 18:29 (yesterday) Permalink

very much worth a read:

My new post: The climate plan that Jay Inslee is releasing (piece by piece) is more than a campaign document, it's a detailed roadmap for US decarbonization. The next president should use it, whoever that is. https://t.co/oseMBu484S

— David Roberts (@drvox) May 18, 2019

The problem with the discussion around the GND so far is that the only substance at the center of it is a non-binding resolution, a set of aspirations and goals. People have projected all sorts of things on it, good and bad, but no one really knows what the GND is. At least in nuts-and-bolts policy terms, there isn’t on yet. So it’s easy to dismiss the whole thing as a “green dream,” as Nancy Pelosi put it.

Inslee’s campaign is systematically translating the GND’s lofty goals — to decarbonize the economy sector by sector, in a way that creates high-quality jobs and protects frontline communities — into policy proposals, focused on an immediate 10-year mobilization. This isn’t just a campaign play, it’s a document the next Democratic president is going to want in-hand when the time comes to get to work. (And if that president needs some kind of climate czar ...)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 May 2019 00:11 (fifteen hours ago) Permalink

yes

Dan S, Monday, 20 May 2019 00:13 (fifteen hours ago) Permalink

also relevant for this thread,

I get that this will never happen, but if you’re Harris, or Buttigieg, or Booker, or ... what’s his name? Swalwell? ... why not just say, “Jay is this party’s climate star. I’m impressed with the thought he’s put into this plan, I support it, and if I’m elected I’ll bring him into my administration to help implement it.” Hell, all of them could say that.

I get that they want to distinguish themselves from one another, but they have other ways to do that, issues they have more personal stake and experience in. Climate is not their main thing. It’s Inslee’s main thing. Why not just embrace a good plan that’s there to be embraced?

It would be a way to get second-hand benefit from Inslee’s reputation on climate change, using it to improve the whole party’s image and expertise on the issue. Democratic voters may not care enough about climate (yet) to make Inslee the candidate, but I bet they care enough about it to appreciate seeing his agenda elevated by the other candidates.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 May 2019 00:16 (fifteen hours ago) Permalink

yes again

Dan S, Monday, 20 May 2019 00:24 (fifteen hours ago) Permalink

so Mayor Pete apparently had a good night on FOX.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 May 2019 10:09 (five hours ago) Permalink

well they support they troops ya know!!!

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Monday, 20 May 2019 11:05 (four hours ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^^

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 May 2019 11:05 (four hours ago) Permalink


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