The September 2019 US Politics Thread is great Great GREAT GR8

Hurricanes, mass shootings, kids in cages, trade wars, and Lawrence O'Donnell's CRYING.

Crazy Lawrence O’Donnell, who has been calling me wrong from even before I announced my run for the Presidency, even being previously forced by NBC to apologize, which he did while crying, for things he said about me & The Apprentice, was again forced to apologize, this time.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 29, 2019

Has he not used "Crazy" on at least a dozen people by now? I guess it's his version of "Lefty."

My favorite Country singer, Crazy Frizzell.

Feel like I should have added Grebt to the title.

starting the september thread with a trump tweet from aug 29, we’re off to a cracking start lads

The new tweets are popping over in the Yam C/D thread.

FWIW, he retweeted that 8-29 tweet this morning, because petty.

He went on a retweet storm after dropping the Debra Messing dis.

Daniel Dale has cataloged the number of times since 2017 Trump has said that no one has ever heard of a category 5 hurricane hitting land.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/H9F9MeVLM3pSwItFTq1jiq6QFVs=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/MHUNIHV2XAI6TDUDJZTIP2MYCQ.jpg

chilling

· Promising peace to those who follow him, he will rise to a position of great power.
· He will gain control of the world economy, by forcing each person to be marked so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark
· His head will seem to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder.

From the previous thread:

was meant to be attending WWII commemorations in Poland this weekend, and cancelled the trip on the grounds that he needed to monitor the Hurricane Dorian situation (thank you, Mr President). He flew to Camp David yesterday, but today got choppered ($) to a Trump golf course ($$$) in Virgina.

White House spox says that he has a person on the trip specifically updating him every hour, on the links, about the hurricane.

... let's have a look at what Mr "I Know Words" himself chose to inform constituents preparing for a natural disaster

Update:

https://i.imgur.com/4bjaeQm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/k07GxX4.jpg

FAKE NWS

North Carolina and South Carolina.

Really two of the best and greatest Carolinas.

We also have some of the best Dakotas. A lot of people are sayingzzzz....

Smithsonian official says he was told Trump didn't "want to see anything difficult" during African American History Museum tour https://t.co/ToiymJy3Ag pic.twitter.com/WRWl3FgR8A

— The Hill (@thehill) September 2, 2019

“The president paused in front of the exhibit that discussed the role of the Dutch in the slave trade. As he pondered the label I felt that maybe he was paying attention to the work of the museum. He quickly proved me wrong,” Bunch recalled in the memoir. “As he turned from the display he said to me, ‘You know, they love me in the Netherlands.’ All I could say was let’s continue walking.”

Oranje manbad

Jesus don’t move him away just let him hang there ffs

Oranje manbad

― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Monday, September 2, 2019 3:28 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

(un)Kurious Oranj

Oranje manbad = Man Boned a Jar

Not to be out done by Trump's Twitter beef w/Debra Messing, Ted Cruz has been trading barbs w/Alyssa Milano.

#DumbestTimeline

Undercard: Tom Cotton v. Valerie Bertinelli

washington really is hollywood for uggos

so true

more accurate to say it's hollywood for the talentless

https://i.imgur.com/8wovabz.jpg

“The President is where he needs to be” pic.twitter.com/CjzjdO76ef

— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) September 3, 2019

VP arrived in Ireland yesterday . So glad everybody's taking the hurricane seriously.

Pence thinks Dorian is a little too lavender a name, had to leave country.

panic at Newark last night

For anyone who cares, a 1 word false alarm (“evacuate!”) caused 300 of us at #newarkairport to dive behind desks, crash through glass, and sprint for our lives to the nearest exit. All instinct. America 2019 is constantly being prepared for a maniac with a gun to blow us away.

— Josh Berman (@JoshBerman19) September 3, 2019

Trump suggested that Mike Pence stay at his Irish golf club on an official trip funded by taxpayer dollars, Pence's chief of staff told reporters. https://t.co/h57V5UZESu

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 3, 2019

this would've been a massive scandal at any point in our country's history but right now

drain it

EPA says it is no longer accepting #FOIA requests by email. #Transparency for Americans ... not so much

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) September 3, 2019

lol. i used to work in the same cuberhood as the guy who ran that program

of course, it was very different during the obama era, when they were working to IMPROVE foia transparency

good owning!

@realDonaldTrump
·20m
The incompetent Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, was bothered that I played a very fast round of golf yesterday. Many Pols exercise for hours, or travel for weeks. Me, I run through one of my courses (very inexpensive). President Obama would fly to Hawaii. Kahn should focus on....
knife crime,” which is totally out of control in London. People are afraid to even walk the streets. He is a terrible mayor who should stay out of our business!
10.1K

Analysis: Trump congratulates Poland on its Nazi invasion https://t.co/8gbd9pdTQw

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 3, 2019

feel like the POTUS skipping the WW2 memorial to monitor the hurricane and then going golfing at his own resort on the taxpayer's dime instead should probably be a bigger story but oh well

BREAKING: In a massive 357 page opinion a North Carolina Court has struck down the State's legislative districts as partisan gerrymanders. New districts to be in place for 2020 elections.

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) September 3, 2019

Yeah, but it was "very fast" and "very inexpensive," so nothing to see here. xp

Oh and also, yay North Carolina! Need to read about this.

Wow. And that's a finding on state Constitution grounds, which should mean that, as in Pennsylvania, there's no appeal to SCOTUS.

I truly love when judges issue tome-length opinions

http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/Emg9qPKR5hquI/200.gif

lol owned

fuck wrong thread

not really

Ted Cruz, on FB yesterday, requesting a tin foil beard covering of some sort:

The Deep State is hard at work, working to prevent this admin from dismantling the Iran nuclear deal completely...The Obama-Iran deal was a disaster when Obama implemented this policy & if the Deep State prevails they will have deceived POTUS into making the same mistakes.

Chris Hayes has an interview with Ted Cruz being aired at the end of the month. Scheduled to be recorded on the 28th September during a live Why Is This Happening tour.

Sounded like an odd choice for a live interview. unless giving him the best part of an hour's airti9me is supposed to be giving him enough room to hang himself.

Would love to have one of these absolute ding dongs sit down and explain at length what they mean by 'deep state', like who is its constituency exactly, how does it function, from where does it derive its operating funds, etc. I mean this is shit that a not particularly bright six-year-old could pick apart without much effort.

amusingly when they do they are basically describing the Trump administration

good morning!

Mike Pence expected to arrive in Doonbeg shortly. Hopefully gardai can manage the large crowds. pic.twitter.com/2eIQG5FGFC

— Ian Begley (@IanBegley_) September 3, 2019

More like Mike Ha'penny amirite

this is a pretty loaded image

https://i.imgur.com/dyxsKP8.jpg

so not gonna happen

BREAKING: Trump just told reporters Dow stock index would be "10,000 points higher" if he hadn't started tariff war with China.

— Mike Dorning (@MikeDorning) September 4, 2019

Yes, and in more general terms, many other things in the world would be vastly improved if you had been bound and gagged for your entire adult life, Donald. Many many things.

this is the final straw; pelosi has no choice but to impeach

The President of the United States altered a National Hurricane Center map with a sharpie to falsely extend the official forecast toward Alabama so he didn't have to admit he was wrong in a tweet. https://t.co/i0CJcYV4yq pic.twitter.com/pR57IL6WfT

— Dennis Mersereau (@wxdam) September 4, 2019

It's fun to have a president who ceaselessly provides all-new reasons to ask 'no, seriously: what the actual fucking fuck is wrong with you?'.

I was surprised to see the NC republicans aren't appealing the decision, abandoning their playbook of doing literally everything possible to obstruct until the fat lady sings.

We all know what's wrong with him; this issue is what's wrong with the people who voted for him

hilarious and sad. could he be any more DSM-y??

I mean anyone with functioning sense organs and passable critical faculties knows what's wrong with him. It's just astonishing that there are seemingly an endless number of novel ways in which his damage manifests.

I was surprised to see the NC republicans aren't appealing the decision, abandoning their playbook of doing literally everything possible to obstruct until the fat lady sings.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive),

I won't believe it yet!

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article234668747.html

“We disagree with the court’s ruling as it contradicts the Constitution and binding legal precedent, but we intend to respect the court’s decision and finally put this divisive battle behind us,” Berger said in a statement. “Nearly a decade of relentless litigation has strained the legitimacy of this state’s institutions, and the relationship between its leaders, to the breaking point. It’s time to move on.”

*guy shits in punch bowl at a party*
everyone who isn't shitter or friends with shitter: "for fuck's sake man don't shit in the punch bowl, do we really need to make a law against that???"
shitter: "this party has been strained to the breaking point by these anti-shitters. guess it's time for me to bowel move on"

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/miriam-lord-how-mike-pence-shat-on-the-new-carpet-in-ireland-s-spare-room-1.4006979?fbclid=IwAR1l5w_8YSR9UmtLmaPjJvopujTIhGwR9vuiYCo2OH30POBaLJxEf-aoB8M

at least he didn't sign the hurricane map, one step at a time folks

Conservative operative Jacob Wohl is wanted on a felony arrest warrant in California, a development that could hamper his spree of bizarre, blundering political schemes.

lmao securities fraud same thing that got Martin Shkreli

goes to show if you're a white conservative you can commit as many crimes as you want so long as you don't fuck with rich people's money

This has been known for years, though

Some might argue that this marks a radical departure for conservative operative Jacob Wohl, but to this reviewer, there's a seamless continuity between a felony arrest warrant and the earlier bizarre and blundering work of this budding auteur.

admittedly I'm still shocked he didn't get anything for trying to gin up an obviously fake sex scandal against Mueller

?fbclid=IwAR1l5w_8YSR9UmtLmaPjJvopujTIhGwR9vuiYCo2OH30POBaLJxEf-aoB8M

please stop doing that you tiresome self-parody

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/459943-trump-displays-map-with-dorians-original-path-extended-toward-alabama
trump's big map that he found with a sharpy circle extending to Alabama

jesus, sorry for repost

I humbly apologise for being curious to read Steveo's link but also for not wanting to fund a company that is actively undermining free elections around the world

the Irish Times?

Unsurprisingly, fears of Brexit have been a positive for foreign direct investment in Ireland, as the preferred English-speaking portal to Europe.

the Irish Times?

Facebook, if I'm parsing that argument correctly

yes but stevo's link is from the Irish Times

Post the link without the tracking hash. Then people can use what you post rather than thinking your posts suck?

ah now I get it

Laura Loomer coming off like a C-Team Kardashian in that pic upthread.

Post the link without the tracking hash. Then people can use what you post rather than thinking your posts suck?

I mean let's get real, if we didn't want to be smarmy knowitalls none of us would be here

tombot that's what i said but without the effing and jeffing, please try not to swear.

honest/ignorant question: if you don't have facebook, what does the tracking hash do

I just cut and paste from the address bar. I tend to ignore that guy anyway cos I can't stand the level of utter self righteousness.

Sounds like sic’s theory is that it results in the publisher paying Facebook for the traffic (regardless of whether you’re logged in?).

I’m only tangentially in the industry but my understanding is that is wrong.

It does allow Facebook to report higher traffic numbers but they lie about those anyway so who gives a shit.

I mean let's get real, if we didn't want to be smarmy knowitalls none of us would be here

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, September 4, 2019 2:04 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

new board desc for the love of god

I still can't figure out how to change the text of a link and still make it active, though (like, for example, Sanpaku did above). right clicking on it doesn't bring up any "edit link" function for me

my theory is that Facebook sell the data to their own advertisers & other third parties, thus also undermining the entire industry of journalism which they have also already gutted

what the fuck you guys on about?

Dan S - bbcode [ url= ] text [ /url ]

without spaces

Plop

sic doesn't need to cut out the shtick, it's hilarious

some of y'all fuckers post AMP links too and that's just as unconscionable

honest/ignorant question: if you don't have facebook, what does the tracking hash do

If you click a link with it and don't have a Facebook account, it creates a version of you that only exists in a secret government/Facebook database that accrues government benefits to which you don't have access. In order to avoid legal responsibility for your digital clone's activities, you must fill out all government forms going forward with "*NFB*" (including the asterisks) as your middle name or as a prefix to your surname, which indicates that you are a sovereign human person and Not of FaceBook.

sounds like a plan

The September 2019 US politics thread truly is great.

xxp thanks, sic!

By "edit link," I think people just mean paste the link into the address bar (or Notepad or whatever), delete all the FB cruft, and copy what's left before posting onto ILX.

If you just paste all the FB cruft into a "hidden" link, I think you will still make sic mad.

I mean if you post like this:

This link is bad

This link is good

amusingly the way their CMS works you can chop the URL all the way down to https://www.irishtimes.com/1.4006979 but that's neither here nor there

any url containing how-mike-pence-shat-on-the-new-carpet is fine, really

Sensenbrenner (R-WI) out at the end of this term.

A 5th TX rep is also out. Something is really brewing here.

xp also thank you DJI for that!

Can’t find the tweet now but I saw a local Texas journalist say they knew of two more republicans planning to retire and he was surprised to see this latest retirement wasn’t one of them. That would make 7?!

The parallel with the quitting Tories is kind of epic, if you can spare the time to keep up between the two games afoot

Almost all the TX quitters are in safe GOP districts

Counterpoint: a lot less of TX is safe for the GOP than you think

Yeah but those guys’ districts in particular are mostly ruby red

Perhaps they have polling data that you don't. They can't all have just gotten unpleasant news from their urologists.

If all the people quitting are quitting safe districts that seems ... weird. Simpler explanation is they’re not all safe districts. Maybe not like they’re going to flip. But like “oh shot I actually have to raise money and campaign, this is not a sinecure any more”.

They may just hate being in congress and want to make some $$$ rather than be sidelined by Pelosi for two more years

Those are definitely not all safe GOP districts. They are districts that have been gerrymandered to shit and can absolutely be turned.

Look their districts up on the Cook Report for the last election

shakey did you check? 3/5 of these races are competitive.

ok a democrat is not taking mike conaway's seat in midland or flores's in waco, but.

will hurd's district tx-23 is i think literally the most vulnerable republican seat in congress. he won by a few hundred votes in 2018. they're absolutely going to lose it to gine ortiz-jones who was already raised over $1m for 2020 (more than any other democratic congressional challenger iirc).

ken marchant won his district by 33% in 2014, but 17% in 2016 and 3% (!) in 2018.

pete olson won by 35% in 2014, then ran unopposed in 2016, then won by 5% in 2018.

blue wave papi

wendy davis of the really long filibuster fame is running for my district (tx-21) currently held by cruz pustule chip roy and previously by actual historical villain lamar smith.

lots of interesting stuff in this, still reading. but

During a meeting with Bush in May 2008, the vice president sparred with Robert Gates, the defense secretary, over the wisdom of a strike against Iran. Gates argued that a military move against Iran by the United States or Israel would strengthen radical factions in the Iranian government and rally the country behind the Iranian regime. Gates said that Olmert should be told in the most direct terms that Israel should not launch a unilateral attack. Cheney disagreed on every point, saying that a strike on Iran was necessary and that at minimum the White House should enable Israel to act. Gates recalled Cheney’s thinking in his memoir: Twenty years on, “if there was a nuclear-armed Iran, people would say the Bush administration could have stopped it.”

That same month, Bush arrived in Jerusalem for his last visit to Israel as president. Olmert hoped to get American and Israeli spies to share more intelligence about Iran, and he used a private meeting at his residence to make his case. When the aides had cleared the room, according to an official who was familiar with the conversation, Olmert moved in to seal the deal. “Come, let’s open the books and be transparent with each other,” he said. Bush agreed, a decision that led to far greater intelligence cooperation between American and Israeli spy services — a “total mutual striptease” in the words of one of Olmert’s former aides. This cooperation would culminate in the Olympic Games operation, which deployed sophisticated computer malware, including the Stuxnet virus, to sabotage Iranian nuclear facilities. This was one path forward to containing Iran.

But Bush was also made keenly aware of the other path. One night during his visit, Olmert invited him for a dinner at his residence with the members of his national security cabinet, including Barak, the defense minister, who like Cheney had taken an increasingly hawkish position on Iran during internal discussions. As Olmert tells the story, he and Bush walked alone into a side lounge after the dinner. As the two men relaxed in leather armchairs, Olmert smoking a cigar, the prime minister told Bush that Barak was waiting and wanted an audience.

Bush was reluctant, according to Olmert. “I understand that it is politically important for you to let him in,” Olmert recalls Bush explaining, “but you know my position on the Iran issue. I am unequivocally against an attack.”

thank you bush? jfc

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/magazine/iran-strike-israel-america.html

shit, the best part was right after that

Olmert persisted. Bush eventually relented, and soon Barak was in the room, smoking a cigar and sipping a whiskey. He delivered a comprehensive lecture about the Iran threat. Finally, Bush cut him off. “He banged on the table like this,” Olmert recalls, “and he said: ‘General Barak, do you know what no means? No is no.”’

Barak, for his part, remembers much about the affair differently, including Bush’s reaction. In Barak’s version, when he finished making his case to the American president, Bush turned to Olmert but pointed a finger directly at Barak. “This guy scares the living shit out of me,” Barak recalls him saying. (A spokesman for Bush says the former president does not recall either of these conversations.)

jfc

Alabama was going to be hit or grazed, and then Hurricane Dorian took a different path (up along the East Coast). The Fake News knows this very well. That’s why they’re the Fake News!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 5, 2019

pres still mad that he doesn't get to go to Alabama to throw paper towels at people

Stop trying to make Alabama happen

https://twitter.com/mark_novata/status/1169347613214302208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1169347613214302208&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheavy.com%2Fnews%2F2019%2F09%2Fsharpie-sharpiegate-trending-trump-memes%2F

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDpbdLHWkAAFppi?format=jpg&name=900x900

All it would take is one CNN reporter saying something like, 'Mr. President, your Democratic opponents strongly assert that you can't possibly be smart or tough or rich enough to chug an entire bottle of drain cleaner in one sitting. How would you respond to that?'. We got Steve King to drink out of a toilet so, y'know, dare to dream?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDpbdLHWkAAFppi?format=jpg&name=900x900

Crap, sorry.

http://www.hrwiki.org/w/images/5/57/Ab-Abber_2000.png

Conaway by 61 pts, Flores by 15, Olson won by almost 5, and Marchant by 3. imo Hurd is really the only gimme for Dems in that group of Texans, given that he won last time by less than half a point, in a District with demographics that are tilting towards Dems.

many xps

oh I see caek already got there, sorry

https://twitter.com/francismmaxwell/status/1169427713230159872

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the very best of #Sharpiegate !! This sh*t had me wheezing! pic.twitter.com/IYsZU39aOQ

— Francis Maxwell (@francismmaxwell) September 5, 2019

how many tweets from him today about this storm fuck up? this dude is worse than any spoiled brat child i've ever come across.

he had one job, as the president of the united states. to give an accurate weather forecast

Via press release from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi:

President Trump is violating the Constitution by making money off of his lavish, ritzy resort properties, ultimately prioritizing his profits over the interests of the American people. First, Trump suggested holding the G7 Summit at his Doral golf resort in Florida.

Now, the White House is walking back their previous statements that Trump personally suggested Pence stay at his Doonbeg hotel in Ireland, which would be yet another example of the President’s self-dealing.

Vice President Pence promised that their Administration would defend the Constitution and stand by a “strict constructionist” interpretation of the Constitution. Instead the Trump-Pence Administration is ignoring the text itself and selling out the Constitution to line Trump’s pockets.

Trump properties are a cesspool of corruption, a black hole for taxpayers’ money, an exploiter of immigrant labor and a national security threat with a suspected foreign spy walking the halls. Here is just some of what we know about the extent of the corruption at Trump’s properties:

Violating the Constitution, Emoluments Clause: President Trump is violating the domestic and foreign emoluments clause of the Constitution by accepting and encouraging foreign governments to pay to stay at Trump resort properties without Congressional approval. More than 200 Members of Congress are fighting in the courts to defend our Constitution and put an end Trump’s abuse of power.

STRONGLY WORDED, NANCE

When selecting a book to read to your sociopathic child, try to avoid the one suggesting that reality can be altered with a purple crayon.

lol picture of that board when he was originally briefed ! what a fucking self owning dork

https://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/48648405897/

yes, but he asked the hurricane guy if he could draw on it with sharpie and the hurricane guy said he could, which means he agreed that alabama should have been in the danger zone

and by "ask" i mean he ordered the hurricane guy to respond without words

Greatest. President. Ever!

this is so fucking embarrassing

that's the best thing about it

ALL he had to do was say " i would like to apologize the the great people of Alabama, I received some bad information regarding the storm's path. thank you MAGA" but of course that makes way too much sense .

narcissism is a helluva disorder

He could have just claimed he successfully prayed it out of its path.

He could have just repeatedly jammed a fork into his eye until he eventually hit brain. It's never too late.

People who didn't live through this will never believe that any of this shit actually happened.

'FAKE NEWS' they'll say and then laugh at the way that phrase makes the old people go into convulsions.

He could have just claimed he successfully prayed it out of its path.

but if 9 mass shootings occur in the same week and trump gives putin a 20-minute shoulder massage during a press conference with a KKK flag in the background, only ~36% of american will pray for him. for a couple weeks, after which it will rebound to 41%

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDt8oHMXsAAIvdX?format=jpg&name=900x900

I was with you all the way Alabama. The Fake News Media was not! https://t.co/gO5pwahaj9

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 5, 2019

not only is this tweet a week old but it only projected AL to get 5-20 mph winds

this is so fucking stupid

I love the idea of Alabama not noticing it's not raining or windy or anything.

I hope he continues to tweet about this for the next year and a half

Hilarious how there's still this narrative that he's some sort of genius at playing the media. "Y'know, I absolutely loathe this man but you have to admit..." yadda yadda. Does the guy running nude thru town have exceptional media savvy or is the media just attracted to outrageous grotesque fools? Trump is incapable of realizing how pathetic he comes across with things like this, or by "I'm a very stable genius" type statements. Any "success" he's had vis a vis the media is accidental or literally dumb luck, just as his success in every other arena of life has been.

He is a 'genius' at least inasmuch as he feeds our obsession for stupid shit like this while more nefarious shit takes place outside the spotlight.

Which, to be clear, I don't in any way contribute to conscious calculation. It's just venal muscle memory.

yep the GOP fucking loves the fact that it gives them great cover to be on their bullshit

Hey, what happened to the caravan? It's got to be close to Chicago by now.

Chicago, Arkansas.

ON NO! Here comes the #Caravan! #Sharpiegate #SharpieTrump pic.twitter.com/r5JWsbF62n

— Science-Based afKiff (@afkiff) September 5, 2019

the conservative response to this is pretty much entirely "HAW HAW HAW the liberals sure are triggered right now!!"

need I remind you that a GOP congressman drank out of the toilet yesterday to own the libs

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/090419_wall_funding/pentagon-shifts-36b-border-barriers-delaying-30m-ft-huachuca-project/

AZ sen McSally initially said the project which is having its funds diverted to THE WALL was $30k but like budget reports are hard to understand n stuff & it's actually $30 million. I doubt this would be the tipping point for a significant number of AZ repubs to turn on Trump, but it certainly can help him in the state.

that post is some "through the looking glass" shit

you clown the other side for their idiotic talking point, and then repeat an equally spurious lefty talking point, well done

xp

nevermind that both "points" are about completely inconsequential bullshit

lmao no way

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/9/5/1883683/-Actor-from-legendary-bad-movie-The-Room-files-to-run-for-House-against-veteran-Texas-Republican

I will donate, just give me five minutes and I'll have your money

wait what was the spurious lefty talking point?

the toilet thing

it's so dumb it's not worth talking about but the toilet design referenced is one that has a drinking fountain installed above the water tank, it a common feature of correctional facilities

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d1b29dda17d6c1bf5115e35-1920-960.jpg

uh I thought part of the story was that the drinking fountain was broken and the guards told the inmates to drink out of the toilet bowl

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/immigrants-drinking-toilets-water-aoc-border-patrol

Rep. Joaquin Castro said that at Border Patrol Station 1 near El Paso a group of 15 to 20 mothers were held in a cell that had a toilet with no running water.

"There was a toilet but no running water for people to drink," Castro said. "One of the women said she was told by an agent to drink water out of the toilet."

xps Oh I thought you meant it didn't actually happen, not that it did but it wasn't actually a toilet. I agree w you, though I think AOC herself pointed out that those toilet/fountain combos were not working when she toured the place and so it was stagnant water whose potability was unknown.

it a common feature of correctional facilities

I get your point, but calling jails and prisons "correctional facilities" is parroting some hardcore doublespeak. I do it, too, sometimes, but I wish I didn't.

no, it is commonly accepted nomenclature in use by public officials and in public documents. It's called the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation and that's how they refer to them.

the utility of the term is that it encompasses jails, prisons, healthcare facilities, housing, temporary structures, all kinds of stuff that might be under the purview of a single agency.

commonly accepted nomenclature in use by public officials and in public documents.

This does not preclude it being doublespeak. These are common places for such occluded language to be put to use. I would say that lumping together "healthcare facilities, housing and temporary structures" with "jails and prisons" is not a way to achieve clarity about one's subject matter, but a way to make understanding what is being discussed more difficult.

This does not preclude it being doublespeak

True, but also true of a lot of things that we don’t mind saying - Department of Defense, United States, etc

What i was discussing was facilities run by a dept that manages imprisoned populations, which includes all the types i listed, among others. This is the opposite of obfuscation.

rmde at usual semantic nonsense in an ilx politics thread

can we go back to arguing about what constitutes a toilet now

I’ve been preparing for this moment all my life but I still don’t feel prepared

-Phil Collins

rmde at usual semantic nonsense in an ilx politics thread

Perhaps it is time I was sent to a re-educational facility to engage in a few struggle sessions so my anti-social behavior can get corrected.

What constitutes a toilet?

Question 1 (final question)

Do you shit in it?

wait what do you call them on a tour bus then

A tourlet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnBDqlQNglE

always the doubleplusgood debates on days when I see doctors

How are you feeling these days, Morbs?

tired

thx

Wow. As Trump primary challengers circle, Republican state parties in South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona and Kansas are expected to cancel their 2020 primaries and caucuses @politicoalex⁩ reports. https://t.co/sKGUyy6OrR

— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) September 6, 2019

they don't want president baby to suffer the indignity of only getting 90% of the primary vote.

Remember when everyone complained about superdelegates?

He is the most unfairly treated blurgbuggmapdfrtt in the history of uuugha

good morning!

*”good morning” while rolling down stairs*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oesSyvh76g

good morning mr president

The Fake News Media was fixated on the fact that I properly said, at the beginnings of Hurricane Dorian, that in addition to Florida & other states, Alabama may also be grazed or hit. They went Crazy, hoping against hope that I made a mistake (which I didn’t). Check out maps.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2019

"They"

Everything involving this stupid weather map is the dumbest fucking thing and I honestly wish another nuclear power would just put us out of our misery

It’s dumber than most of his crimes with less imminent harms for immed victims, true. And therefore more annoying.

I think I'd faint if he ever admitted a mistake

WTF he's STILL hammering on about this today?

I'll be delighted and dismayed if sharpiegate is what finally brings him down

ok when GOP fundraisers are this worried + the retirements + revised Cook Report ratings yeah TX is gonna be interesting
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/460155-texas-republicans-sound-alarm-about-rapidly-evolving-state

Trump took obvious delight in hyping up the threat of the hurricane and is genuinely disappointed it hasn't lived up to it.

but his Sharpie

as for TX, gotta ramp up that voter suppression

The Texas GOP is also courting the out-of-state newcomers — the “refugees fleeing oppressive legislatures,” as Dickey calls them — who have made Texas the fastest growing state in the country.

Interesting choice of noun for those fleeing oppressive legislatures.

worth mentioning that telling people the weather is one of the few parts of the job he actually seems to enjoy

do u.s. president get regular psychological evaluations? if they don't, i think they should.

Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not insane.

sharpiegate made everyone forget about him tweeting out that spy satellite image. genius!

I already forget what him tweeting out spy satellite image made everyone forget about

Republicans are rushing to address the perception that they’re predominately the party of older white men in an increasingly diverse state.

ah yes that "perception"

I already forget what him tweeting out spy satellite image made everyone forget about

disloyal jews?

xp they are also the party of older white women

not really. GOP is hemorrhaging votes from women.

I think sharpiegate is related to his poor vision, which has been speculated on elsewhere. I think he thought the part of the FL panhandle that was on the edge of the predicted range of the storm was actually part of Alabama. There is a longitudinal line on the map which might have contributed to this. The reason he is doubling down so hard (other than never wanting to be wrong) is that a) he doesn’t want to be called out for having bad vision, and b) he doesn’t want his base in that area to know that he doesn’t know where Alabama ends and Florida begins.

I think Sharpiegate is related to for the love of god end all of this

xp they are also the party of older white women

― normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Friday, September 6, 2019 12:20 PM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not really. GOP is hemorrhaging votes from women.

― Οὖτις,

sure, but older white women are still part of the GOP base

i suspect trump will do just fine with white women in texas, even if it's not quite as much as last time

hubba hubba

him tweeting out that spy satellite image

i'm very happy that i seem to have missed this in its entirety

no one has time for all the disasterpieces

i read that as "white women in tuxes," but i don't think Liza Minnelli is a supporter

lol

Before they knew the storm was going to turn right, back when it was in the USVIs, the gulf of Mexico and AL were certainly possibilities (after failing to turn right, passing through the Florida panhandle and out into the gulf). Trump was at worst out of date since at the time he warned AL, the forecast already had the storm turning right. Of all the things to call Trump on, this is one of the weakest and that's why he's playing it up

why are we still talking about this

the stupider stuff always sticks cuz 'Murrica

Re: eyesight, I know I looked, like, a million years ago at this point, but I seem to recall only finding maybe one or two pictures of him with reading glasses on.

why are we still talking about this

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, September 6, 2019

Friday afternoon before happy hour

so.. unhappy hour

“China is eating the Tariffs.” Billions pouring into USA. Targeted Patriot Farmers getting massive Dollars from the incoming Tariffs! Good Jobs Numbers, No Inflation(Fed). China having worst year in decades. Talks happening, good for all!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2019

"Targeted Patriot Farmers"?

China eats tariffs, Trump eats his weight in Popeyes Sandwiches.

Uhh...no. there was at most a 20% chance of a sliver of Alabama getting tropical storm winds, but that had passed out of the forecast by the time Trump said what he said.

He shared a Spaghetti model, which is mot a forecast, and includes experimental models that aren't even included in the NHC forecast track as proof (and they were well out of date).

He also warned Alabama that they might get hit hard, that there was at one point a 95% chance of them being hit (when there never was) and there's a photo of dude being briefed on a 5 day forecast with no Alabama track.

Dude made a dumb mistake and misremembered something but nobody would be talking about it if he didn't continue to needlessly self-own himself daily

The National Weather Service had to issue a statement to correct him so Alabamalamians didn't mistakenly think they'd be affected, so they didn't think it was so pointless.

"Targeted Patriot Farmers"--one of my favorite non-existent GBV songs

He also repeated it at a FEMA briefing saying he had new news that Alabama might get a piece of it after NWS had already corrected him.

I am with DJP. Blow us up

nobody would be talking about it if he didn't continue to needlessly self-own himself daily

this is just his way of boosting his brand as a tireless fighter against the liberals and mainstream media, but only his loyal base are buying that brand these days. they're the same ones who buy the hats.

this is one of the weakest and that's why he's playing it up

He's playing it up because he's a thin-skinned jackass who can never ever be wrong about anything.
And the "issue" is more about him changing an official NWS map to assuage his ego than his info being out of date.

Also you gotta remember that Trump's perceived legitimacy is predicated on this "choose your own facts" philosophy that only works if he can convince his followers that the media cares more about bringing him down than they do actual facts. I guess he somehow thinks this is a winning battle on that front. Remember how he spent his entire first month in office whining about the crowd size at his inauguration?

He still does that!

personally the only way I can get myself into his headspace is by thinking back to when I was an 8 year old kid desperately trying to get out of being grounded by arguing that my parents just had it out for me. he's already dug his heels in and the only thing he knows how to do is dig deeper. when I was a kid I was the same way.

I know we don't have a president where I'm from, but if we had one, I'm pretty sure I'd think one of her biggest responsibilities would be being up to date on potential catastrophic natural disasters.

esp when the pres is a catastrophic natural disaster hey o

where I'm from

is that still denmark

probably easier to keep track of storms in a country that size

I am with DJP. Blow us up

You're all turning into Chuck Heston at the end of the second Apes movie.

If the Grifter was doing the same shit with the demeanor of Dubya, would you be less angry at him? Seems like it.

yes if he had a totally different personality people wouldn't be as repulsed by his personality, great insight

I hated Dubya's demeanor!

My LiveJournal proves it

i'd suggest valuing his personality over his actions, or equal to them, is unproductive, Granny.

People (esp Dems) in general hated Dubya less or they would've turned on Michelle Obama for being such a pal to him by now.

where I'm from

is that still denmark

― j., Friday, September 6, 2019 2:15 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hahahaha

People (esp Dems) in general hated Dubya less or they would've turned on Michelle Obama for being such a pal to him by now.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius),

This is addled logic. You're judging how much we loathe the worst president of our lifetimes by his participation in the usual post-presidency kumbaya?

can't parse that

but i'm glad you agree W was even worse

You're saying, "Dems can't possibly hate him if he pals around w/Michelle O," which uh

No, he's saying we don't hate Michelle enough

nice try, i'm not gonna get banned during the baseball playoffs again...

btw Jimmy Carter is heroic for generally shitting on the usual post-presidency kumbaya, for which he is apparently hated by all the other ex-occupants.

I am pretty sure you were here when I went on tirades about W, Morbs.

I'm not saying we all didn't hate him!

Hell I traded him off my Madden team

I agree that history will probably look upon Dubya as a worse president than Trump was but I at least was able to muster an ounce of sympathy for him, he was dealt a bad hand and got a ton of bad advice from the wrong people. Iraq was a disaster of historical proportions but lets face it, it was supported by a majority of Congress (including the 2016 Democratic nominee) and a good portion of the media as well. If this version of Trump became president in 2000 I feel like things would have gone even worse. Like I shudder to think what could've happened if 9/11 happened on his watch.

Also I think it's important to note that demeanor does matter, the way Trump's given half the country permission to openly dismiss any criticism whatsoever and act like they're being victimized 24/7 is something we're going to be seeing the effects of for generations. Maybe it's because I was a teenager who knew jack shit about politics during Dubya's first term but I don't recall there being a problem convincing people that 2 plus 2 was 4

got a ton of bad advice from the wrong people.

who he specifically chose to assist and advise him. that bad hand was largely self-dealt.

Bush was a pea-brained cretin so clueless about the cost of war that he let genuine evil cynics handle details. Fuck him forever.

I was a teenager who knew jack shit about politics during Dubya's first term but I don't recall there being a problem convincing people that 2 plus 2 was 4

there *are* instances; many.

Grifter could be worse if there's 8 years.

W was more immediately destructive on a global scale, but Trump has been much worse in terms of undermining long-standing institutions and norms and causing daily psychic dread.

in terms of undermining long-standing institutions and norms

as the Twitter joek goes, other than that he's bad

institutions like the federal election commission and the EPA tho

they don't want president baby to suffer the indignity of only getting 90% of the primary vote.

this is hilarious, extra-funny since it's twitter grifter Joe Walsh upset about getting marginalised, and good news for the unlikelihood of there being anyone vaguely competent from the GOP on the ticket

Maybe it's because I was a teenager who knew jack shit about politics during Dubya's first term but I don't recall there being a problem convincing people that 2 plus 2 was 4

― frogbs, 6. september 2019 22:47 (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Eh, the whole run-up to the Iraq War really felt like people insisting a thousand times zero was a lot. Every week a new piece of 'evidence' that Hussein had done 9/11 with nuclear weapons from Nigeria, and nothing ever added up, but people insisted there was too much smoke.

lmao

pic.twitter.com/J3aTzBG7ao

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2019

Oh my fucking god

I am so confused, how can CNN simultaneously be fake news and cited as not fake news?

thats_how_the_tabloid_mentality_works

Are you fucking kidding me? Some rando at NOAA lying for Trump now?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/06/noaa-backs-president-trump-alabama-hurricane-forecast-rebukes-weather-service-office-that-accurately-contradicted-him/?tid=sm_fb

We are a joke

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS NEW TWEET FROM DONALD J. TRUMP!!!!

CHECK OUT THIS NEW SHIT THIS MORON SAID! OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!

FUCK YOUR JOKE-ASS POTATO, BITHC

Actually it's an example of the head of the fucking NOAA throwing their own National Weather Service under the bus but hey you got your pointless smug rejoinder in

i know man but its just like jesus christ at what point can we just forget about this and maybe focus on the actual left

not to get all political or anything

Why don't ya fuck off

The constant stupid politics of the "acceptable topics" in this thread has gone beyond tedious and into Star Trek subreddit

FUCK OFF BITHC WE TRYIN TO TALK BOUT SOME REAL SUPER POLITICAL SHIT UP IN HERE BITHC

Have one drink less maybe

hm well I am actually 100% sober, so methinks u perhaps have the intelligence of a Neanderthal. fuck whose potato now bithc

but for reals though, let's get to the bottom of this map trajectory nonsense, then the poor and powerless will have won

I am actually 100% sober

well, there goes your best excuse

Hey Aimless, Dorian? More like Dorkian. Cause I don't care if you're a republicrat, demopublican, black, white, purple, green, lavender, LGBTQ, whatever - if you're a weather system trying to encroach on MY property without my permission? well then you're a str8 up DORK and you can go FUCK yourself bithc!!! and that's whats up

for a sober person you sure are falling down a lot

so does that mean you think the left, generally speaking, isn't getting distracted by a bunch of bullshit lately and by lately I mean the last two or three years?

I remember reading these threads in 2004, 2005 and seeing lots of really long and thoughtful posts and actually learning things. from seemingly educated, knowledgable people. Isn't it sad that my way of asking for that is to chip in some of the shit I hate? I don't get it either but here I am

does that mean you think the left, generally speaking, isn't getting distracted by a bunch of bullshit lately and by lately I mean the last two or three years?

I'm not sure who you mean by the left or what you consider to be distractions. I do think that the way the US system works that it becomes very hard for ordinary citizens to accomplish much between elections, when the people occupying high office are not inclined to assist you in your goals.

Scanning the real state of politics in the USA the past two or three years, I think the mid-term elections went pretty well from the standpoint of taking the punch bowl away from the Republicans by re-taking the House.

The Senate is heavily weighted to reward small rural states with disproportionate power and it only exposes a third of its seats to the will of the people during any election, so that was and remains a much harder nut to crack. The president was rebuked but not removed by the mid terms.

There have been suits filed and injunctions issued over as many of Trump's policy moves as could have been filed. The president's erratic, childish, petulant and bullying behavior is correctly called such by the left. Ridicule is a decent political weapon, too.

I'm not sure what more the left was supposed to do during the past few years that you think would have allowed 'the poor and powerless to win', considering the 2016 election results?

del is correct we’re on year 3 of fixating on asinine shit that doesn’t matter for the sake of tripping on the negative heightened affect it induces, but I certainly don’t think you all need to stop. Anyway there’s other threads

Treeship needed to stop though so I’m glad he did

Lol focus on the left

There’s enough time in the day to organise all sorts of resistance and make fun of Trump.

The hilarious part being the link I posted wasn't about something TRUMP said or posted but it's clear del g was just waiting to pounce on the thread with this narrative for hours.

Fuuuuck this thread.

LOL GUYZ EVERY TIME U POST ABOUT SOMETHING TWUMP TWEETS HE GAINS MORE SEXUAL POWER AND WE LOSE 2 ELECTORAL VOTEZ

*makes time to organize resistance to Trump on ILX*

wit hthis post, he shall be banished!!

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

lol focus on what we really want

i flag any post containing 'methinks'

sorry, those are the rules

see also 'smacks of'

it was ironic and therefore acceptable you cluleless cumbublble

ah

irony

I think del may have been fibbing about "100% sober".

we’re on year 3 of fixating on asinine shit that doesn’t matter

tbf it's not us who are generating unprecedented amounts of asinine shit.

(a giant baby demanding that federal agencies issue statements that he fell over on PURPOSE, and the most the agency can do to resist is to type "no one here will agree to be credited with this" at the top of the press release, is the sort of thing that normally ends careers in ridicule within a day or so. regardless of the baby)

for the sake of tripping on the negative heightened affect it induces

I'll admit I'm surprised that in posts vmnic, Neanderthal has not been focusing joyously on DJT audibly cutting a long wet fart on camera yesterday

del's not actually wrong, but he is making me want to have a drink. to the kitchen!

Admittedly i missed the fart vid. Can't say i am in a good enough mood today that it woulda had the usual effect tho!

don't do that if you don't wanna do it, I wouldn't.

I'm mostly just trying to get Aimless to admit that he either is, or is close with friends with, Chargers hall of famer Dan Fouts, or childrens book author Dennis McGregor.

P.S. Neantderthanl I am hoped you haved survived the Hurricanes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8nRQJaRV9E

Dennis McGregor lives in Sisters, OR. I have a relative by marriage who lives in Sisters, OR. I have driven through Sisters, OR, many times. This is as close as I'm ever going to get to being him.

As for Dan Fouts, pffft, we live in wholly different universes, but I do remember his epic battles as a Duck against Sonny Sixkiller and the U of W Huskies.

aimless otm

Anyway a majority of the House democratic caucus is now cosponsoring Jayapal’s M4A Bill.

ball's in your corner nance(?)

I thought this was pretty good.

Ok I kinda hope people keep talking about this now

The Failing New York Times stated, in an article written by Obama flunky Peter Baker (who lovingly wrote Obama book),”Even after the President forecast the storm to include Alabama.” THIS IS NOT TRUE. I said, VERY EARLY ON, that it MAY EVEN hit Alabama. A BIG DIFFERENCE.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 7, 2019

we are all in a weirdass timeline that no one could have predicted

pls add "(who lovingly wrote Obama book)" to thread title

It's almost as if our president understands that Obama's existence is the source of all his power.

did anyone have "trump invites the taliban to the US for the anniversary of 9/11" on their bingo sheet

Unbeknownst to almost everyone, the major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to secretly meet with me at Camp David on Sunday. They were coming to the United States tonight. Unfortunately, in order to build false leverage, they admitted to..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 7, 2019

really

"one of our great great soldiers"

Nobody wants to say this but the United States should've been negotiating with the Taliban a long, long time ago. I mean in 2002 or 2003.

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) September 8, 2019

No real complaints about Jeet Heer but wow he’s stuill a thing I guess

ok I guess, but Trump's tweets about this are still batshit crazy

I agree that the tweets are nuts but also a lot of ppl seem to think the basic concept of talking to the Taliban is insane on its face

umm....what

pic.twitter.com/QeUbwdsWfr

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 8, 2019

oh fuck that

xp yes agree

go to bed mr. presdient

I agree with Fizzles and am indifferent to MH but i think her current photo looks like Mick McCarthy in a wig and that always makes me smile.

_As usual, every single line in @MarinaHyde’s wrap of the last few days is gold but I can’t stop laughing at Boris Jo ;4hnson “gave a speech so hallucinatorily bad it whiteyed a policewoman”_


why that's the most hilarious gag of season, scuse me I need some oxygen etc...

No real complaints about Jeet Heer but wow he’s stuill a thing I guess

While @BarackObama is slashing the military, he is also negotiating with our sworn enemy the Taliban--who facilitated 9/11.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 13, 2012

refusing to end the war in Afghanistan: the moment where DJT truly became president

did he really fucking tweet a cat chasing a laser pointer?

honestly I decided a few weeks ago this guy is trying to get impeached. expect shit to continue to get really fucking weird. I think that's a pretty safe prediction.

apparently the US is suddenly requiring visas for bahamians trying to evacuate to florida

just really fucking evil

fucked up

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler has released a resolution outlining the parameters for an impeachment investigation into President Trump, heating up talk of impeachment on Congress’ first day back from its summer recess.

Nadler on Monday released a resolution, which his committee is expected to vote on Thursday, laying out the rules for any impeachment hearings. The rules outline basic structures, such as how a witness should be called or how the chairman can designate a full committee or subcommittee hearing.

On the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, Democrats’ proceedings are being met with a collective shrug. One senior administration official says the proposed language falls short of what would be needed to compel additional cooperation from the White House on oversight requests.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-judiciary-committee-to-vote-on-impeachment-hearing-rules/

One senior administration official says the proposed language falls short of what would be needed to compel additional cooperation from the White House on oversight requests.

looooool

mean, ANY cooperation with oversight requests?

Dang iPhone

Valerie Plame campaign ad is some cheesy fucking shit. I mean good on her and I hope she wins and I guess maybe that dumb crap plays in NM but it makes me cringe.

oh wow that ad is corny as all hell

Looks like Fox News is speeding up footage of Trump walking so he doesn't seem so slovenly... pic.twitter.com/l0dSrFgb75

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) September 9, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNBL5OMeuno

lol

pic.twitter.com/uStdByPFHw

— DAWG (@88SEATTLE61) September 9, 2019

In this issue of Autocracy Today:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/wilbur-ross-noaa-hurricane-dorian-alabama-trump

A stupid mistake by the Prez now progresses to Commerce Secretary demanding government appointed officials to lie, or be fired if they don't.

imagine losing your job (or being threatened with it) over one of the dumbest political scandals of all time

of course, the people he threatened to fire were politically appointed by the trump administration, so they were probably awful anyway. so maybe i don't feel bad for them choosing to lie instead of being fired (imo it would be an honor to be fired by trump for telling the truth, but i also have nihilistic tendencies)

Can't wait til Wilbur Ross is punished with a promotion and a bigger desk

bright side scenario: Trump refuses to admit he ever told Ross to threaten to fire anyone if they didn't lie for him, and chooses to fire Ross instead

remember, all of this happened because of a tweet and a sharpie

but this holiday season, one tweet, and one sharpie, are on an adventure of a lifetime, that some people are saying has never been seen before, and it's the dumbest fucking thing you have ever heard of

WASHINGTON — President Trump declared that peace talks with the Taliban were “dead, as far as I’m concerned,” saying he called off a meeting at Camp David after the militant group in Afghanistan killed 12 people, including one American soldier.

Speaking to reporters on Monday as he left for a political rally in North Carolina, Mr. Trump said he did not intend to try to revive efforts to reach a peace accord with the Taliban that could accelerate the removal of American troops from the country.

“They are dead — they are dead. As far as I’m concerned they are dead,” Mr. Trump said of peace talks, accusing the group of the attack that killed an American soldier from Puerto Rico. “You can’t do that. You can’t do that with me. So they are dead as far as I’m concerned.”

i mentioned this a long time ago, i think, but i often wonder how things like this are translated and understood across the world. or, forget translation, how are they understood by someone who doesn't realize that "dead" here means that a project is canceled. because if you don't know that, it sounds like he is just saying that the taliban are all going to die, because you can't do that to trump. so they are going to die. oh well, doot dee doo

first time he's ever cared about a dead puerto rican

But now he’s bothered by bad people Bahamians

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/politics/trump-hotel-turnberry.html

45 had a deal with Scotland airport that sent US military crews to his hotel despite it being far from airport and more expensive.

you can take the boy out of the grift...

good morning!

haven't really followed the polls lately but I assume they're....not good

One of the greatest and most powerful weapons used by the Fake and Corrupt News Media is the phony Polling Information they put out. Many of these polls are fixed, or worked in such a way that a certain candidate will look good or bad. Internal polling looks great, the best ever!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2019

wow, best ever, nice

He's probably reacting to the ABC/WaPo one which had him -15

yeah he's really doing great, ignore the polls and stay at home trump fans

*trump fans*

oh sweet, best ever polls, nice

he must be doing great. america is doing great again

"Internal polling" = "my bedroom"

I'll still never forget a news clip from the morning of the 1996 election, when it was very clear that Clinton was going to demolish Dole, with Phil Gramm (in whatever capacity he was acting in for the campaign) saying, "We had five polls this morning and they all show us winning."

or Mitt Romney having to write a concession speech b/c no one thought he'd lose.

there's a special election tonight in a Trump +12 district that's gonna be real close, might be worth keeping an eye on

the NC race?

Best thing he's done this year:

I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2019

hahaha

Bolton not tough enough for the Blob

i think it's probably the opposite. bolton too "tough" for trump

He probably asked him if he needed yo go up a pants size

I'd like to congratulate Vince McMahon on his impending National Security Advisor roll

"I removed the most hawkish NSA director in history. I have made America safer today. Obama didn't have the balls to deal with him."

i think it's probably the opposite. bolton too "tough" for trump

My thoughts exactly.

I'd like to congratulate Vince McMahon on his impending National Security Advisor roll

But first he has to change his middle name.

Bolton and the Taliban, so much in common.

It's quite possible that Bolton made the mistake of crowing "ha-ha! I told you so!" to Trump, after he broke off talks with the Taliban yesterday and Trump fired him for it.

Forced to turn in his mustache

A fitting end for America’s worst walrus

Can't find the meme, so...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e2/c8/87/e2c8874b518e378c4d0a8395bcc054ff.jpg

WORST WES ANDERSON FILM EVER

I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, "Let's talk about it tomorrow."

— John Bolton (@AmbJohnBolton) September 10, 2019

He offered to resign and the President said FFS not during infrastructure week

"Call back later, I'm watching my stories!"

I guess only one brutish narcissist can coexist with the Grifter

NBC News reports:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced Tuesday that he may annex the Jordan Valley and other parts of the occupied West Bank “in coordination” with the United States — a move that risks shattering the fragile status quo in the volatile region.

“This is a historic opportunity to apply sovereignty to communities in Judea and Samaria,” he told reporters in Jerusalem Tuesday, referring to the West Bank.

“I request a mandate to apply Jewish sovereignty to all communities and I intend to do so in coordination with the United States,” he said, adding that the U.S. would present its long-awaited Israel-Palestinian peace plan a few days after the election.

"If I choose, I will contain Israeli sovereignty over the Jordan Valley and the northern Dead Sea. This will be the first step if I choose," he said.

His announcement was an apparent last-ditch attempt to attract right-wing voters before Israel heads to the polls in an unprecedented repeat election next week.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/netanyahu-seeks-annex-jordan-valley-coordination-u-s-n1051901

JUST IN: The FEMA official who oversaw the reconstruction of Puerto Rico’s electrical grid after Hurricane Maria in 2017 has been arrested in connection with fraud and conspiracy charges.

— Ari Natter (@AriNatter) September 10, 2019

had a feeling that guy wasn't on the up and up

Clearly he forgot to kick back (via renting a suite at Trump's hotel).

that israel peace plan is going to be a winner, have no doubt

Is it still his son-in-law that's fixing everything?

lol I was going to say 'how will this jive with Jared's peace plan of "give Israel whatever it wants"'

"fixing everything"

https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/amp_metadata_content_image_min_1200px_wide/public/blogs/34819/2010/06/44518-30005.jpg?itok=qxGhhcs9

Is it still his son-in-law that's fixing everything?

Guess I'll be doing BDS forever. Anyone want a unopened SodaStream white elephant gift?

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/460746-mcconnell-white-house-preparing-gun-violence-proposal

some weird shit going on, GOP Senate playing chicken with the NRA hoping Trump will give them cover (I sort of doubt he will - he'll probably propose something and then undermine it the next day)

John Bolton's sudden departure is a symbol of the disarray that has unnerved our allies since day one of the Trump Administration. Steady leadership & strategic foreign policy is key to ensuring America’s national security. https://t.co/MQIYet8pnA

— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) September 10, 2019

wtf Nancy

Bolton sucks and it's good that he got fired

ffs let her troll

she doesn’t say “John Bolton is good and we should keep him”

it is dumb and bad to be constantly hiring and firing everyone around you (except your family)

Hey, firing people has always been his main schtick.

not having a lunatic warmonger as your NSA is also key to ensuring America’s national security

Which is why he SHOULDN'T HAVE HIRED HIM

run government like a business

zero doubt Pelosi prefers stable evil to other kinds.

I like my evil with a side of arugula and a martini, please.

if he has the attention span for this issue he's going to do some real harm

Quote from Trump official in this @boreskes story suggests intent of visit to LA is to exploit California homeless crisis, not seriously explore remedies https://t.co/aHnnPbTRF4

— Stuart Leavenworth (@sleavenworth) September 10, 2019

Luckily he doesn't have the attention span to finish a piss before wandering away from the toity. Just don't suggest that he might be wrong about something and it'll be fine.

So! In that NC special election Dan McCready is overperforming, surpassing his 2018 numbers in early voting.

He’s going to lose though

Yeah, it’s pretty close, but he seems to have lost.

I didn't think he would either, but the NC GOP's gotta be sweating.

Margin of victory: 2% - roughly 4200 votes.

Seems like this is every election in my recent memory. Could just a few more Dems get off their asses to the voting booth ffs?

That...kinda happened in the midterms?

Midterms were good, they were not the massive repudiation I would have wished.

Given the failure of the entire media and governmental infrastructures of the US to repudiate an openly treasonous looting of the country, the voting public did a reasonable job of gesturing towards it.

this is kind of a fun reminder that we're all going to have to go through Election Day 2020

sic realistically otm :(

Midterms were good, they were not the massive repudiation I would have wished.

― confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, September 10, 2019

Midterms were better than expected by every metric.

you sound like... a baseball fan

Baseball fans are gay.

some! eg Nate Silver

this is kind of a fun reminder that we're all going to have to go through Election Day 2020

Newp. After voting Imma go into an extended news blackout / drinking jag / induced coma / remote cabin. Following partial returns is just not a thing I can do anymore. 42 years in DC, loads of political engagement and volunteering and just... no.

I am not going to sit in front of a television or computer while people talk about how with two percent of precincts reporting, Shmurp is up by fifty points, BUT WAIT, we just got results from Glurp County, which includes suburban Gleepburg. Those voters tend to be more blurpservative. So Shmurp is going to have to do really well with the college students and lacrosse moms in Norzberg County.

Gleepburg is more purple these days.

Yep. Putting myself through a repeat of election night 2016 might literally kill me. And I mean literally. Vote and then all contact with the outside world ceases until mo(u)rning.

cspan can fuck right off with this shit

"'Some people did something' said a freshman congresswoman from Minnesota…Today I am here to respond to you exactly who did what to whom."

Full video here: https://t.co/K2m92hUsMP#September11 pic.twitter.com/3DjjsPYzCw

— CSPAN (@cspan) September 11, 2019

Imagine still peddling this shit 18 years into a massive war crime that has killed countless women in Afghanistan https://t.co/1hLE2OVjmI

— Nora BarrowsFriedman (@norabf) September 11, 2019

xp "some people did something" is kind of a dubya-esque gaffe; omar was just setting the scene

I'm probably one of the few people on this board who marched against the war in Afghanistan back in 2001, but 'massive war crime'?

oh Christ

your ego and stupidity are so well married

I’m probably one of the few people on this board who marched against the war in Afghanistan back in 2001

lol

#neverforget

xp ha was gonna say. do you even ilx bro ?

I'm probably one of the few people on this board who marched against the war in Afghanistan back in 2001, but 'massive war crime'?

― Frederik B, Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:33 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

haha wow fuck off buddy

CBS News reports:

Aggravation over Iran and the Taliban had intensified recently as Mr. Trump wanted a meeting to take place at Camp David and is open to a meeting with Iran’s president.

But three sources directly involved tell CBS News White House correspondent Major Garrett that the main irritant that drove Mr. Trump to distraction was his belief that Bolton or those close to Bolton leaked a story about Mr. Trump asking about whether nuclear weapons could be used to abate hurricanes.

Let’s say you are a taliban and you receive ‘an invitation’ ‘from the president’ ‘to discuss peace’ ‘at Camp David’, how suspicious would you be?

🐦[Imagine still peddling this shit 18 years into a massive war crime that has killed countless women in Afghanistan https://t.co/1hLE2OVjmI🕸
— Nora BarrowsFriedman (@norabf) September 11, 2019🕸]🐦

from whom?

Ask the women of Afghanistan if they’re cool with going back to taliban rule

quite a binary you have there

... Condoleeza

ask them if they’re cool going back to being alive, first things first

I say this as some whose wife goes to Kabul several times a year to work on empowering women there. I really don’t think they’re super cool with going back to what it was

absolutely loving the idea that Trump fired Bolton for leaking about something dumb Trump asked over a year before Bolton was in the White House

It’s possible to both hate taliban rule and foreign intervention.

or to love both

yes, it is.

Especially considering how foreign intervention did little to change taliban rule.

well i'm definitely not trying to justify the intervention

but how you leave the place is extremely important

Better hang around another 18 years then

better say disingenuous shit on a messageboard

Agreed that how you leave the place is important.

Sorry I misunderstood you earlier.

"we" (the militarist dumbshits) will never get it right

NC republicans promised NC house democrats that they wouldn’t pass any legislation while the democrats were away at an 11/9 memorial service. Then broke the governor’s veto on budget legislation as soon as everyone was gone.

Can’t wait until Biden gets nominated so he can restore more of this type of bipartisanship!

Republicans deserve to not have all their teeth

but how you leave the place is extremely important

Some ways would be marginally better than others, but I'm not sure there is any possible way to leave that would produce the kind of results you would approve. The women of Afghanistan, even if they were a monolithic bloc, have so little power that they cannot control events, or even influence events in a meaningful way.

The combined weight of USA/NATO/western NGOs have not changed that equation nearly enough in the past 18 years to alter the fundamental vulnerability of Afghan women and there's no reason to believe they can dictate such a change as part of their peace terms. That's the reality of it.

on this holiest of days

Post 9/11 thread for people to post the wildest shit they remember from 01 to 06

I'll start:

People thought Osama had an entire mountain hollowed out that he was using as his base and that's why AQ was hard to find and that somehow a group of like 30 dudes arranged this. pic.twitter.com/IPGVQ1xfhs

— mugrimm (@unabanned) September 11, 2019

honestly I'd forgotten about a lot of this stuff but I agree with the guy's point that Obama's failure to investigate/prosecute any of this stuff has pretty much led us to where we are today

literal bond villain shit, just an incredible time to live through

tbrr for those of us living/working in downtown manhattan, everything felt completely unreal and bizarre anyway! osama living in a gi joe playset was somewhat in line with having to show id at subway checkpoints and dodge police chokepoints just to get to the office.

That thread reminded me of the time Kerik hustled a fuck pad out of the city so that he and and his right wing girlfriend could pork away.

it really is wild how everyone for awhile thought OBL was basically Cobra Commander crossed with Saruman when he was really just a troll in a condo watching porn, like so many other shitty 21st century people.

Ayman Al Zwahiri = Destro?

who was the Baroness

Condi

couldn't even get all the liberals to dissent?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-allows-full-enforcement-222638710.html

basically this is Congress' fault.

Here's video of Trump telling reporters today that "innocent children" are "coming home and they're saying, 'mom, I want to vape!'" pic.twitter.com/XwSrYboavZ

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 11, 2019

And my new username is born

Too bad guns don't come in kid flavors.

but they do...

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/apr/29/armed-to-the-milk-teeth-america-gun-toting-kids

'mom, I want to vape!'

Unreleased "The End" outtake.

I like how he presents this hypothetical as if kids going to their parents to ask permission before doing something is somehow a terrible thing that must be stopped

"Mommy, can I go out and......VAPE TONIGHT!?!"

i love how trump constantly feels compelled to set the scene that's playing out in his head for everybody

"his head"

Mother, May I Vape With Danger

idk whatever you call the My Three Sons episode that he envisions n front of him

This is so transparently about wanting to be seen as decisive and pro-active about anything whatsoever, so long as it's not guns or something of real consequence. I hate vapes, but I think this ban is disgusting. I also expect that bans on THC products are right around the corner.

Trump describes a dream he had/episode of Quincy he half-watched as if it were reality (perhaps prefaced with 'many people are saying'), world calls Trump out on preposterous claim, Trump humorlessly grouses that he was obviously just joking and any other take is just FAKE NEWS, lather, rinse, repeat, torch earth and salt remains.

I also expect that bans on THC products are right around the corner.

of course becasue it's not like the whole fucking issue is due to black market THC carts so banning them will definitly help.

I would encourage everyone to forward Trump news stories about the Electric Sun 20 so that we can hasten the complete dissolution of reality.

It's more about Juul stuff right? My daughter and her friends complain about its pervasiveness in their high school.

because they have fruit flavors ? they still make Boones Farm Strawberry Hill don't they ? I don't know any adults that drink that shit .

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

I don't think the CDC really knows what exactly it is yet. there seems to be a correlation to black market THC carts, potentially related to a thickening agent they've been using to make the carts appear more "real". from what I've heard a lot of the carts tested have Vitamin E oil in it, which is something you definitely can't smoke, but not all of 'em had it and some of the people hospitalized weren't using THC carts at all, so it's all a bit up in the air right now

the idea that this is just a bad batch of THC carts doesn't really make sense to me right now either, if that were true you'd expect there to be a ton of these cases concentrated in a specific area. but that's not really the case right now

i think there are two issues at hand. First there are the deaths or whatever is going on there but there is also the thing with banning just flavored nicotine oils which seems stupid .