here's a vape thread for everyone to talk about vapitos shit because nobody else cares

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let natural selection decide

, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:19 (three years ago) Permalink

u even vape bro

Nobody ever knows anything. (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:22 (three years ago) Permalink

considering how cool smoking is its sorta amazing how uncool vaping is

doug ellin (Lamp), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:31 (three years ago) Permalink

can someone please explain vape culture to me? I generally get why someone would vape rather than smoke cigarettes, but I definitely do not get the vape enthusiast gatherings, conventions, etc. nor do I understand how it is possible to sustain dozens of vape shops in a city as small as Austin.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:34 (three years ago) Permalink

yea despite a cleaner high I always feel a little let down when I vape, like something was missing. I haven't really had a chance to use a super high quality vaporizer though, maybe it'd be differ with one of those really cool looking ones like the magic flight

marcos, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:35 (three years ago) Permalink

not gonna google 'bacon vape'

imago, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:36 (three years ago) Permalink

the intersection of vape culture with other weirdo subcultures like bronies is fascinating to me

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:37 (three years ago) Permalink

i have an ecig which has def helped me stop smoking for 1.5 years. i'm trying to cut back on smoking it now. feel a lot healthier in general.

i agree that it's uncool and don't really know about 'vaping culture' that every seems to make fun of on twitter...

tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:38 (three years ago) Permalink

can someone please explain vape culture to me? I generally get why someone would vape rather than smoke cigarettes, but I definitely do not get the vape enthusiast gatherings, conventions, etc. nor do I understand how it is possible to sustain dozens of vape shops in a city as small as Austin.

― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:34 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

vape = bitcoin

Nobody ever knows anything. (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:40 (three years ago) Permalink

purity of the fedora thread restored

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:40 (three years ago) Permalink

i did try smoking a real cigarette recently and it was p disappointing. i think the nicotine hit you get from some of the electronic versions is actually "better"

tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:41 (three years ago) Permalink

wait are we talking about vaping weed or tobacco here? fuck tobacco imo

marcos, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:42 (three years ago) Permalink

cigs get me lifted tbh...

never vaped nicotine 🍀

Nobody ever knows anything. (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:42 (three years ago) Permalink

***** Obviously you dudes haven't been reading the fedora thread but this is a thread for positive experiences and exchanges of information only. Yes, vape culture is, by and large pretty fucking dumb and cheezy what have you. That said, I recently started vaping and enjoy it quite a bit. This is a SAFE SPACE FOR the non-fedora wearing vapors among us so butt the fuck out with yr negativity man. Also just to clarify we're not talking about vaping THC. *****

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:42 (three years ago) Permalink

okay bye thread, if not weed then idgaf

marcos, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:43 (three years ago) Permalink

i recently went into the 'house of vapes' in shoreditch the other day with another friend who is trying to use them to help her quit. we were both amused by the groups of guys sitting around blowing huge clouds of smoke into the air and shooting the shit. kind of like a coffee shop in amsterdam except even lamer?

tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:44 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm serious too. If people are assholes I will have this moved to TMI adn mod the shit out of it.

Moodles - I can't explain the culture to you. Sorry. I'm totally fascinated by it though and am planning a stealth mission to a vape con to see if I can figure it out more. I will complete a full report when this happens.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:44 (three years ago) Permalink

In my heart I know I am going to take the plunge. I want to. It just seems so... complicated. *bookmarks thread*

rip van wanko, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:50 (three years ago) Permalink

x-post pretty much. They call themselves cloud chasers. *shrug*

Woof - I almost bought the cinnamon one by beard no. 5 at the weekend but went with the shop's own brand which is actually a little disappointing. I am currently waiting for this https://thesuicidebunny.net/shop/e-liquid/mothers-milk/ which has realy good reviews. Also, the old school tobacconist here carries their own line of custom blended juice by the guys that make that and I've had two from them that are really impressive.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:50 (three years ago) Permalink

when i vaped with an ilxor i didn't really feel a buzz but maybe it was cause the nicotine content was low?

, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:50 (three years ago) Permalink

they should make these with opium

example (crüt), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:52 (three years ago) Permalink

I had a fancy vape about two years ago, but the central problem re: quitting smoking was that it reinforced the nicotine addiction and the "something in the hands/mouth" habit which made it so much easier to start smoking regular cigarettes after the second beer or so.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:52 (three years ago) Permalink

Saw a guy at the bar whose vaporizer looked like Sherlock Holmes's pipe, couldn't decide how I felt about that.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:53 (three years ago) Permalink

don't let the enthusiasts/hobbyists put you off. don't bother with the disposable ones. just buy one with a reasonable battery that you can refill. there is a part (the atomizer) that you have to change every once in a while. the most complicated thing is probably the shame of smoking it in public, honestly.

tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:54 (three years ago) Permalink

i got over it by reminding myself that it's better than dying. and by being as discrete as i can i suppose.

tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:55 (three years ago) Permalink

Xps

ha i visited house of vapes a few weeks ago - found the steampunk faux-sophistication (dark wood/leather/brass) finely balanced between tacky and crepey.

woof, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:56 (three years ago) Permalink

limited observations from my second hand exposure to this, pun intended

fedora dudes might get vapey but vape dudes don't seem to lean especially fedora.
in fact, in terms of intersections, i've been interested/surprised by the sort of gearhead-y element of the culture: the emphasis on what equipment you use, and the equipment modding subculture.
the real overlap with fedors dudes and other oddballs is the v much embarrassing phenomenon of these ppl wanting to totally make this thing their identity

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:57 (three years ago) Permalink

my friend got this one i think:

http://www.joyetech.com/product/510CC.php

it's only a little larger than a normal cigarette and i think when she smokes it she almost pulls off looking cool? she is kind of a naturally cool person tho

tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:02 (three years ago) Permalink

the first time i went in that shoreditch vape shop (i think it had a different name then?) it was completely empty. the guy who worked there was sat at the counter twisting some special coil for his steampunk custom device. it was pretty intimidating and i left feeling it was all way too complicated and gearhead-y. recent visit was better though - they were quite helpful.

tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:07 (three years ago) Permalink

x-post - It's not really. I just started about 3 weeks ago? I'd been smoking an e-cig with disposable cartridges for a year and a half but realized how much money I was wasting. This is significantly cheaper. In those three weeks I've fallen down the internet rabbit hole and picked up a lot of stuff and it seems a lot less intimidating than it did at first.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:07 (three years ago) Permalink

Another thing I've been thinking of is that aside from the gross #vapegirls/models thing - it seems to be largely male dominated and that makes me want to infiltrate even more but not in a "sponsor me and I'll stick this pen between my boobs kind of way".

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:10 (three years ago) Permalink

(I am embarrassed by all the typos in my warning up there but I am at work and trying to multitask)

So, what the hell is dripping? n.b. I'm perfectly happy with my simple set-up but, as I said earlier, the whole thing is totally fascinating and weird to me.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:12 (three years ago) Permalink

i love this stuff but hate the word 'vape'. isn't really another term i guess, though i say 'smoking ecigs' which is verboten because the militant guys want to distance it from smoking as much as possible due to all the legal shit going on.

btw anyone doing it for coolness, or not doing it for coolness is missing the point in a big sad way.

NI, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:12 (three years ago) Permalink

okay bye thread, if not weed then idgaf

― marcos,

otm. see ya

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:15 (three years ago) Permalink

i could prob advise on most stuff to do with this if ya want. got a good % of my smoker mates into it, and subsequently quitting real cigs.

top tip: make your own fluids, v easy & works out about 5% of the cost of buying it readymade.

mother's milk is good, thick strawberry cream stuff, though might not work in your set-up as it's a thick gloopy fluid.

NI, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:16 (three years ago) Permalink

there's always gona be cringey crap about any new thing, just gotta ignore it.

NI, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:17 (three years ago) Permalink

Let's all come together and start a very subtle, well-designed, and good e-liquid company. Maybe this is out million dollar idea!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:18 (three years ago) Permalink

one of my friends is into this and the way he is constantly sucking on that thing like a baby pacifier is a bit disturbing.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:18 (three years ago) Permalink

x-post - I have a kanger pro-tank II. It might not work in there? The other ones I have from that company do. Hmmmm. That would suck.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:19 (three years ago) Permalink

Sorry. I'm totally fascinated by it though and am planning a stealth mission to a vape con to see if I can figure it out more.

fully support this endeavour. and while we're at it can we resurrect ilx grand scheme of infiltrating awesomeness-fest

tpp, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:20 (three years ago) Permalink

i dunno, i see this whole 'look at how ODD it looks' is just the shock of the new. remember a whole lot of pisstaking of people using mobile phones when they first became affordable round the mid 90s. seems like that. what i love most is when grandads get into it, totally ditching all the 'is it ok, does it look daft, what will people think' junk around it, just doing it because it's a great mostly harmless vice, love that mindset. more ecig grandads pls

NI, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:21 (three years ago) Permalink

xpost, ah yeah that tank should work. that whole high-end stuff (suicide bunny, cosmic fog, etc) works best in a sub-ohm tank but that's a whole next level of nerdery that i dunno if we should go into on here. my favourite of the SB liquids is madrina, the melon one. spent months trying to recreate it, almost almost there i think (got MM sorted though)

NI, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:23 (three years ago) Permalink

i support this call for vaping grandads and now need to start a bad called exactly that

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:24 (three years ago) Permalink

ugh "band"

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:24 (three years ago) Permalink

x-post - yeah see that's where I get confused. can you explain in simple terms what a sub-ohm tank is? Also, dripping? I have no desire to get any nerdier or more into this stuff but I do want to know about it.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:25 (three years ago) Permalink

I've found that vista vapors seems to be a really high quality place for lower priced liquids. I'm waiting for a couple from there right now. They also let you boost the flavor or make your own blends and they're very reasonably priced.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:28 (three years ago) Permalink

ENBB - Mother's Milk was one of the first I tried that wasn't generic cherry or licquorice or w/e. I def liked it - not wild on it, but it was good. I might order it again sometime, now I am an experienced vaper-of-the-world. Not wild on the tattooed babe cupping her breasts on the bottle.

but I'm moving away a bit from US liquids, just bcz it's cheaper to get British ones here.

Maybe I'll start mixing my own? Feel no pressing need right now

I do not understand that word of sub-ohm dripping and that.

woof, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:34 (three years ago) Permalink

ok in simple terms a sub ohm tank is a tank where the heating element gets really hot really quickly but without actually burning the cotton. it means your fluid is turned into vapour v fast so you get a big rush of smoke. the flavour is a lot more intense with these (and you get the whole silly 'cloud chasing' shit). it's not really a relaxing toke, but there's something really satisfying about it, esp with these expensive fluids.

few things to know:
- you need to lower the nicotine in the fluids you use for this. im down to 3mg for all my stuff now, anything above 6mg will prob make you feel queasy due to the amount of nicotine in each toke.
- you need a battery strong enough to use them. you want one that goes up to 30w really. you can go higher but don't bother at this stage.

i'd give it a go, some people really love it and it's interesting at least.

basic set-up: get the kanger subtank mini (about £25 i think), and an istick 30w (again about £25) and fluid that's high vg (anything above 70 vg to 30 pg is good to go)

NI, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:34 (three years ago) Permalink

Yeah NI bring the nerdery I am interested

(xp thank you!)

woof, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 16:35 (three years ago) Permalink

the Pax 2 is heaven sent

flappy bird, Saturday, 16 January 2016 22:53 (three years ago) Permalink

My pax 1 is on the skids. Worth upgrading?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 January 2016 23:36 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
three weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSuAst_XIAAJNrz.jpg

nomar, Friday, 4 March 2016 19:53 (three years ago) Permalink

US Dept of Transportation banned these on commercial flights the other day

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 4 March 2016 23:28 (three years ago) Permalink

I smoked for 20 years, then quit, but an uptick in my social life has led to more drinking/going out, and I've been smoking when I drink. This has been bothering me a lot (health concerns mainly) so I got vape thingy and I like it! I was concerned that I would still want 'the real thing' on nights out, but I dont! The vape hits the spot.

I got a Moto Plus, very well reviewed and cheap @ $55. Ultra compact too. I don't think this model is widely available however.

I'm totally unselfconscioss about, probably bc I'm too old to give a f-

My main concern is that vaping will, beyond just replacing my occasional social smoking, get me really hooked on nicotine again. But hey, it's good by cigarettes and that's awesome.

stanley krubrick (rip van wanko), Sunday, 13 March 2016 21:20 (three years ago) Permalink

Goodbye cigarettes, silly phone

stanley krubrick (rip van wanko), Sunday, 13 March 2016 21:21 (three years ago) Permalink

One of my local bars banned vaping because there are too many 'sick clouds bro' assholes annoying the rest of the customers.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 13 March 2016 21:41 (three years ago) Permalink

saw some dude vaping on the subway platform the other day.

ian, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:19 (three years ago) Permalink

i had a conversation with a dad outside my preschool yesterday and two minutes in i realized he was vaping, but he was such a ninja with it that i didn't even notice right away.

nomar, Friday, 18 March 2016 18:46 (three years ago) Permalink

my kid's preschool that is

nomar, Friday, 18 March 2016 18:47 (three years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Tried this again to wean off nicotine, discovered that most are sub-ohm resistance and designed for giant clouds of vapor. Got one with higher resistance and it actually feels like smoking a light cigarette rather than just a harsh irritation in my throat.

Still not willing to do this in public.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 8 September 2016 00:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I'd consider this if it juice didn't come in such stupid flavors. I also feel like shopping around for a decent widget is impossible without ending up at sites that are basically the 2016 edition of spinning 3D fire skulls and blink tags

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Thursday, 8 September 2016 00:40 (two years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

but i'll say it again: if you're not killing yourself then what's the point

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 08:55 (two years ago) Permalink

It's amazing the number of people who refuse to switch to ecigs because of image (association with fedora dudes/neckbeards etc). I still vape but can't help but feel selfconscious about it!

rip van wanko, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:10 (two years ago) Permalink

I can't do it in public because of the association but it's cut me back from a pack a day to one pack a week (and then only if I go to a bar one night).

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:22 (two years ago) Permalink

i've switched to a small pellet that drops from a plastic tube fixed to a hat that i wear at all times. the hat dings to alert me that the pellet's coming, then i open my mouth and the pellet drops right in there.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:39 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

@sarahmccammon
BREAKING: US Navy bans #vaping on ships/aircraft after several incidents of exploding/burning e-cigs. Ban is for an indefinite time period.

mookieproof, Friday, 14 April 2017 14:17 (two years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dam-m1QX4AUrOqn.jpg:small

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 April 2018 20:25 (one year ago) Permalink

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1456/7750/products/DSC_3725_grande_25820346-65be-472c-8682-cfb05ed5c488_grande.jpg?v=1475896274

They know their demo.

Still haven't figured out the demo of guys like me importing Swedish snus. Hopefully its less embarrassing than the modern snuff enthusiast.

Zhoug speaks to you, his chosen ones (Sanpaku), Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:08 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't smoke or vape, but I've been getting into watching ytpc (youtube pipe community) videos recently

soref, Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

xp it's just as embarrassing but I will admit to having done the same once

alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 12 April 2018 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

“I’m always surprised when I see an adult with a Juul,” she said. “It’s sort of like seeing my grandma with an Alexa.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/05/14/the-promise-of-vaping-and-the-rise-of-juul

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 00:16 (one year ago) Permalink

everything we do is like Tide Pods. Everyone in this generation is semi-ironically, like, We’re ready to die.

mick signals, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 00:20 (one year ago) Permalink

I’m gonna start juuling

it’s going to be as awkward as when I opened my friend’s front door to greet trick-or-treaters and a large group of middle school students were there and I exclaimed “wow you’ve got a whole squad out here”

and they giggled and went “haha squad”

mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 00:20 (one year ago) Permalink

geezers be juulin for a minute, no shame bae

calstars, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 01:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Incredible that the Reefer Madness approach is still being taken in 2018

“We are seeing the vaping and the ‘Juuling’ across the board,” a substance-abuse counsellor in Arlington, Virginia, told a local radio station, surmising that vapes might contain “cocaine liquid.” (It is possible, though difficult, to crack open a Juul pod and fill it with your own liquid. This would be a complicated and perhaps unprecedented way to do cocaine.) An assistant principal in North Dakota warned the Grand Forks Herald about the dangers of e-cigarette liquid, which he had inadvertently touched after confiscating a bottle that he found in a student’s backpack. Soon afterward, he began to feel nauseated and “real emotional,” he said.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 01:40 (one year ago) Permalink

You know what will get teenagers to not Juul? Telling them it's a pipeline to exciting hard drugs and getting super high.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 01:41 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Found a juul. Wtf am I supposed to do with this shirt

calstars, Saturday, 14 July 2018 23:25 (ten months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

i love the juul but I'm seemingly allergic and can only vape the mango and, to a lesser extent, mint flavours without coughing up a lung. as in with the tobacco flavoured one i cannot even get enough into my lungs to exhale any visible vapour without having a coughing fit like i just greened out smoking a gravity bong. oh well i would've gotten way more addicted than I've ever been to cigarettes, which I've hardly been smoking lately as I've cut down on booze massively

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:59 (five months ago) Permalink

i've used conventional vapes in the past on many occasions and never had the same issue 乁₍ッ₎ㄏ

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 30 November 2018 23:00 (five months ago) Permalink

Vape the Mango must be the name of a song right

calstars, Saturday, 1 December 2018 01:26 (five months ago) Permalink

Huge owner of the local pizza place has a vape the size of a brick

calstars, Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:14 (five months ago) Permalink

I've long argued that vapitos need to get over their self-consciousness, but not if you're vape is much larger than your phone. Then u a dork

rip van wanko, Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:32 (five months ago) Permalink

your

rip van wanko, Saturday, 1 December 2018 18:32 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I dgaf about vape life, but I've had a Juul now for three weeks and haven't had or even wanted an actual cigarette in that whole time. I smoked all day every day for 26 years, so this thing has changed my life.

Hopefully I can wean myself off it by working down to 0% nicotine pods, but I'm setting that goal for six months out.

Anyway, yeah, Juul is rad if you're trying to kick cigarettes.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 16 December 2018 04:13 (five months ago) Permalink

Also, the cucumber flavor suuuucks, but now I'm stuck with three more pods of it.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 16 December 2018 04:15 (five months ago) Permalink

I think a neighbour downstairs vapes and it wafts through the floor somehow and is utterly revolting. Ban this filth.

The First (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 10:11 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Can someone recommend a device that doesn't crap out within 3-4 months? The advantages of vaping as a way to maintain and not smoke are diminished by what is probably planned obsolesce but it'd be nice to not have to buy so many vessels until I can taper off of nicotine forever

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:23 (four months ago) Permalink

I use an atlantis evo tank + eleaf istick. They've both held up for a couple of years w/ the usual minor maintenance.

woof, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:42 (four months ago) Permalink

im on that juul shit for the time being and since you end up throwing so much of it in the garbage all the time it's probably fairly fail-proof? idk it's been 2 weeks

suggest boban (Will M.), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 15:54 (four months ago) Permalink

slightly less wasteful way of using the juul: after they're finished you can pop open the pods and fill them with nicotine salts vape juice. can use a pod like maybe 3 or 4 times that way (also nic salts are cheaper than pods per volume). obviously fucking around with those things is probably not hugely advisable but seems fine

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 17:11 (four months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

It seems that the milennials are using their juuls as props like the boomers used cigs

calstars, Sunday, 17 March 2019 20:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Plugging this shit into my laptop to recharge still seems like weird sh1t

calstars, Sunday, 17 March 2019 20:12 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

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— Juggalocialism (@UweBollocks) April 4, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 April 2019 11:08 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i got a lightly used pax (think it's the original pax not 2 or 3) from my gf's lil bro's partner because they stopped smoking weed a couple years ago and it was just lying around their apartment. it's great, and according to the receipt would've cost me > $200 canadian to be new so I'm pretty stoked

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:20 (six days ago) Permalink

i also stopped vaping nicotine because i became a much bigger nicotine fiend than i ever was. back on the "few cigarettes when out drinking" bandwagon and feeling better for it tbh.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:21 (six days ago) Permalink


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