PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

new weapon new thread

if anybody wants me i shall be organizing an alternative thread across the road

Rory Stewart post on ilx

we need to find a middle ground

She's ready queen.jpg

Incredibly useful website from the FT: http://hastheuklefttheeuyet.com

I’m not supporting xyzzzz. If we are to have a new thread I would post as a big fan of Remain that hasn’t equivocated on this like xyzzzz.

There are plenty of people in ILX that I can work with, that I do work with. But xyzzzz is a Brexiteer. He cannot be trusted on Brexit. That is abundantly clear.

Indeed, he's one of those treacherous immigrants who close the door behind them.

i heard calz talked to xyz in a park and he said interesting stuff abt socialism

lest we forget

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAFzQHqXsAUv352?format=jpg&name=900x900

and if it means that 50,000 more disabled people must die under austerity so that we can have that monument, so be it

The UK is a notoriously impoverished country whose ruling class simply can't afford to invest more in handouts charity than it already has. I mean, the fact that you have so many caritative organisations per capita (quite unlike socialist France) is proof positive that Brits are the most generous humans in existence.

what have disabled people ever done for feminism tho

you love to see it

Here’s what new Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson doesn’t want you to know… pic.twitter.com/DrP2crVu0d

— The Labour Party (@UKLabour) July 22, 2019

£1,500 scraped together from a cabinet of millionaires, good job everyone

The Cabinet bought Theresa May a handbag and some jewellery with the proceeds of their £1,500 whip round

The presents were organised by Michael Gove

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) July 23, 2019

only a couple of minutes to go until newly-minted pm boris johnson executes jeremy cunt with a bolt gun live on stage

xp a trebuchet would have been too on the nose

i heard calz talked to xyz in a park and he said interesting stuff abt socialism

― mark s, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Can see it happening tbh.

exclusive sneak preview of boris' first meeting with the eu as prime minister

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Jumping in on a point from the previous thread but there's no way Labour loses Vauxhall, they've held it since 1950 at least and only had less than 50% of the vote twice. The demographic change would need to be gigantic.

Too early with the new thread title

Can we be kinder to the next prime minister than we have been to the current prime minister?

Jesus Christ, this is the slowest announcement ever.

boris is over

CUNT

If the number of people being beastly to poor Jo Swinson is any guide, I fear that we can not be kinder to the next PM.

i for one welcome our shambling blond beast prime minister

suzy otm

.@BorisJohnson got the two-thirds of votes he wanted to secure his no-deal Brexit mandate.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) July 23, 2019

bobby pesto has gone off the deep end

johnson cockroach of cockroach britain

A very Bozza Britain

110,000 rabid corpses is some kind of mandate fo sho

xp An insightful and sorely missed blog xxp

Recalling co-worker banter from 3 and a half years ago about the prospect of Trump and Johnson overlapping as leaders - at least it took this long.

So now we have proper party membership figures from the Leadership contests. Labour (2016) 506,438. Tory (2019) 159,320, LibDem (2019) 106,075 .

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) July 23, 2019

wonder when we'll see boris' triumphant photocall with his girlfriend carrie symonds, who he's definitely still together with

Time for Dominic Grieve to grow a backbone.

pity about all those UKIP/brexit-ultra entryists that joined the 20000 dead members still paying subs last year. It would have hilarious if it came out in the wash that the LibDems have more than treble their membership numbers.

Jumping in on a point from the previous thread but there's no way Labour loses Vauxhall, they've held it since 1950 at least and only had less than 50% of the vote twice. The demographic change would need to be gigantic.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 11:00 (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

intended that point more as a howl of pessimism more than any real analysis tbh, but I do imagine this demographic shift is on its way, even if not in time for the next few GEs.

ladies and gentlemen, our prime minister

He reminded his audience of ministers and party staff of his campaign mantra: “Deliver Brexit, unite the country and defeat Jeremy Corbyn.”

Pointing out that this spelled “dud”, he joked that the final e – “energise” – had been left out. “I say to all the doubters: dude, we are going to energise the country!’”

Johnson is the baldest man ever to be famous for having hair it's so weird pic.twitter.com/ndE9Zjiwne

— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) July 23, 2019

lol true!

the leadership announcement coming at the start of a 3 day summer heatwave feels very 'short term causes' section of your gcse history book

— earthworm jimmy eat world (@SzMarsupial) July 23, 2019

we can look forward to heatwaves lasting considerably longer than three days in the near term too, with a government as committed to allowing corporations to commit climate genocide as johnson's will be

lol we're all gonna die

boris sure spends a lot of time talking about 'defeating corbyn' despite corbyn not being in power iirc

Thank you all for the incredible honour you have done me. The time for campaigning is over and the time for work begins to unite our country and party, deliver Brexit and defeat Corbyn. I will work flat out to repay your confidence

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) July 23, 2019

I mean, he isn't even the current bald English-speaking world leader most famous for having hair!

If he ever loses it, he can just sew an upside-down Michael Fabricant on top of his head - what can Trump do?

Roll on IndyRef2, so I can fuck off back to Scotland and leave you cunts to it.

profiles in courage:

Tobias Ellwood, the defence minister who has been very critical of the idea of a no-deal Brexit as an acceptable outcome, is not planning to resign, and has urged colleagues to support Boris Johnson. “It’s a duty of every MP to support the prime minister right now,” he told the Press Association.

Former soldier, so yes sir, no sir, bayonet that Afghan.

If he ever loses it, he can just sew an upside-down Michael Fabricant on top of his head -

the special relationship, we love it don't we folks? we love it

https://i.redd.it/v1r67l7xr1c31.jpg

Watching ITV interviewing some Tories and jfc, just the worst shite coming out of their mouths. Manchester Tories!

Tories get even worse the further north you go.

rip ian curtis

Wasn’t the infamous QT wall of gammon in Yorkshire?

They tell it like it is up there.

Christ Peston is so fucking awful.

“One of the worst ideas in this country is the idea that people who voted Leave will be betrayed...”

He is ready blobby.jpg

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Tories get even worse the further north you go.

― Arthur Lowe & Love (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Good job ogmor has left the country instead of putting up with this demonisation of the North

tfw you realise you can't even grimly look forward to a planet of the apes future cuz climate change is gonna kill all the world's apes first

tbf to the colonel Kurtz of gammon he showed his prescient qualities when he said some pillock from Iran is going to nuke the UK a couple of years before the pillock was actually sorely tempted to do it (despite not actually having any nukes yet).

planet of the gapes

gammon are useful for political bbc dept who aren't interested in interviewing people from Yorkshire unless they are rabid tories from Beverley/York or completely inarticulate racist idiots who communicate in grunts. And of course strong Yorkshire accents means they represent the working class regions of the county, who they keep telling us, Labour has almost completely lost the support of since 2015.

Both Dawn Foster and Frances Young are otm about how it's completely offensive that you are supposed to treat politics like a game and not take it personally that vile detritus like Swinson have consistently supported horrible policies that have plunged people into poverty, homelessness and death. You should just dust yourself down + metaphorically shake hands with them and say well played, you won fairly by the rules, jolly good show.

FBPE-ers be dreamin':

If one, just one Tory MP crosses the house today, Boris will not become PM tomorrow...

— Boris_Johnson's_Picaninny #FBPE (@SmartyPants_PT) July 23, 2019

if one, just one tory sprouts rotors today, they'll be a helicopter tomorrow

he is your pm - deal with it ya melt. hashtag.

This is great too:

We have the first BAME and mixed-race Prime Minister: a mixture of English Christians, Turkish Muslims and Eastern European Jews.

— Alexander Brindle (@Brindle_Alex) July 23, 2019

absolutely nuclear take, incredible

We must make up a prize for some of these tweets

lol IDS getting down to ancestry.com as we type.

And what about Disraeli? Anti-semitism, or what?

tbfttl:

Second! Disraeli was Sephardic Jewish. They are both mixed race too.

— Alexander Brindle (@Brindle_Alex) July 23, 2019

Trump just said Johnson is going to be 'great'. Good job, Tories! Emancipation is nigh.

president xi, fire when ready etc

Nice display name there from the tweet linked - it’s funny how racism is ok when you’re mocking a racist?

Lol@ Brindle tweet, if that were true he wouldn’t have got the vote.

Lol@ Brindle tweet, if that were true he wouldn’t have got the vote.

it reminds me of that young labour twonk who was white but wanted to be a bame representative on the strength that his mother once had a black bf.

i think young brindle was attempting an irony that got out from under him there but WHO KNOWS EH

check his replies to that tweet - if he's doing an irony, he's remarkably committed to the bit

also he rest of his timeline is cancer

the irony at issue isn't any more ambitious or insightful than "isn't it ironic that boris (= a tory) is our first BAME PM -- oh wait actually i mean second (first also a tory)"

I am using irony to make a joke which is intended to get people to think about these concepts in the context of modern Britain, with all its diversity and multiculturalism. Apologies to any offended, I understand I could be misinterpreted.

— Alexander Brindle (@Brindle_Alex) July 23, 2019

the rest of his timeline is still cancer tho

How is BAME pronounced btw? Seems like a UK-specific concept.

i think the options are spelling out the letters or rhyming it with DAME, if other options exist i am happy to adopt them in order to puzzle people

it's pronounced 'hen fap' iirc

Tempted by BAH-MEH (instinctively, because that’s what it would sound like in Romanian).

The BAH-ME PM

Lol he has done a whole thread about it now

But having a person who is a melting pot of backgrounds in a high profile position will probably inspire some young mixed people to be ambitious, and that is a good thing. We should celebrate diversity.

— Alexander Brindle (@Brindle_Alex) July 23, 2019

That's my personal highlight

🗣HEY ALEXANDER, DO THE MIXED PEOPLE HAVE TO LOOK AS WHITE AS BORIS?

His brain has clearly melted in the hellish heat of a Boris bus or he’s high off the fumes of melting plastic everywhere

Oh I see, I haven’t seen the social experiment excuse in ages.

Yeah they are really going for it. I was just trying to use irony to make people laugh and think about the concept of ethnicity, and mixed heritage in today's Britain. People infer what they want to infer.

— Alexander Brindle (@Brindle_Alex) July 23, 2019

in further news abt his brain (acc.his twitter bio): ppe student, fabian, boxing blues captain

godspeed you! bame prime minister

i for one welcome our new prime minister *checks notes* 'don't know'

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guygoma.gif

I walked into the Sky studio and they asked me if I was a lady by the name of ‘Jo Swinson’. Unbelievable par so early in the morning, I’m going back to bed.

— Eleanor Penny (@eleanorkpenny) July 23, 2019

Should’ve Guy Goma’d it and announced full communism under the Swinson era.

Boris Johnson is the first journalist to become Prime Minister. That, by itself, is inspiring to me.

— Sam Bowman (@s8mb) July 23, 2019

Wow the Lib Dems are back, can’t believe swinston has already achieved the level of household recognition of whatsisname and the Jesus one

There can't be a journalist in the land who isn't looking at Boris today and thinking, "if he can, why can't I?". Whatever else he achieves, that is something special.

— Sam Bowman (@s8mb) July 23, 2019

Follow up tweet is even worse

http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/data/13030/8d/ft709nb48d/figures/ft709nb48d_00003.jpg

(l)progressive politics,(r) Jo Swinson.

This day is getting better by the hour:

I’d like to congratulate @BorisJohnson on becoming Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

I for one hope that he takes a harder line with Varadkar, the Irish Government have treated us shamefully in recent months. All military options should be explored to deliver #Brexit

— Ian Paisley MP⚪ (@lanPaisleyMP) July 23, 2019

awww yiss

that's a parody account obv

So looking forward to us invading Ireland. All over by Christmas Halloween.

we are certainly now in a world where very obvious parody accounts have the power to start non-parody wars

There can't be a journalist in the land who isn't looking at Boris today and thinking, "if he can, why can't I?".

Are all Brit journalists as lacking in moral compass and as ready to embrace any position to fulfill their ambitions as Mr. Johnson?

Churchill was a journalist for a while, was he not? FFS do these cunts know nothing about the history of the Tory Party?

Most of the journos who’ve recently turned candidate are Greens.

xxp that was rhetorical i take it

churchill as a journalist and an auton:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Churchill_1904_Q_42037.jpg

So looking forward to us invading Ireland. All over by Christmas Halloween.

godspeed you! bame prime minister

― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Paying my respects to this post btw

Jeremy Corbyn says Labour will table a motion of no confidence designed to force Boris Johnson from office "at a time of (their) choosing", adding "it will be an interesting surprise for all of you"#NextPrimeMinister updates: https://t.co/RXBOOCDERG pic.twitter.com/S8pzz9Orrn

— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) July 23, 2019

Christ, to be in that 8%.

SNAP POLL: Which of the following best reflects your reaction to Boris Johnson becoming leader?
Dismayed: 37%
Pleased: 18%
Disappointed: 10%
Delighted: 10%
Don’t mind either way: 17%https://t.co/HIIFAgL8kP pic.twitter.com/ztQ8odZI1W

— YouGov (@YouGov) July 23, 2019

"we must stop the Brexiteer Corbyn by backing Boris Johnson to the hilt" said Cooper

lulz0rz we’re all gonna die

Official statement from the minister for foreign affairs

congrats to the brits on your new racist, homophobic prime minister, replacing your previous racist, homophobic prime minister.

— Patrick (@PrayForPatrick) July 23, 2019

here's the washington post with key insight from afar

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EALZPjqUIAAzu4w.jpg:small

godspeed you! bame prime minister

― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Paying my respects to this post btw

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:22 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Salute

I was not prepared for the amount of content relating to the Palace Nightclub, Navan on the minister for foreign affairs' twitter.

.@POTUS just now @BorisJohnson: "Good man. He's tough and he's smart. They're saying Britain Trump. They call him Britain Trump."

— Cordelia Lynch (@CordeliaSkyNews) July 23, 2019

otm, that’s def what we call him

"Good man. He's tough and he's smart."

Whenever Trump effulgently praises a high official in his own administration it means they will be dismissed within six months.

As @BorisJohnson becomes Tory leader & PM next, we have to take the fear & anger which'll accompany his leadership & use it as a motivating factor towards building a bigger, stronger movement in opposition - towards a GE & a transformative @UKLabour Govt. TY @chunkymark for vid. pic.twitter.com/BFcgJ0Q7yj

— Laura Pidcock MP (@LauraPidcockMP) July 23, 2019

good messaging

beats 'at a time of our choosing' the time is now ffs

i guess the actual VONC can wait a week or two

no they should do it tomorrow oh wait

compare to sadiq khan’s “congratulations”

FFS

just seen this on prayforpatrick's tl.

Centrists make my teeth itch 😬 pic.twitter.com/2CZanvpB36

— The Agitator (@UKDemockery) July 20, 2019

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i guess the actual VONC can wait a week or two

― imago, Tuesday, 23 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

no they should do it tomorrow oh wait

― jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 23 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

Lol parliament is going to summer recess as normal at the moment?

xxp I pass the HoC multiple times a week & see groups like this all the time, they get so much worse than this

Dominic Raab invoking Hegel to Jon Snow on Channel 4 news. Two bald men...

Comms Team signing off... forever: Jared, you are the most disgustingly morally bankrupt person I have ever had the displeasure of working with. You do not care about your constituents. You do not care about anyone but yourself.

— Jared O'Mara (@jaredomaramp) July 23, 2019

MIC DROP.

Lol when he first took Clegg's seat I thought great to see some disabled representation in Parliament. What a absolute twat he turned out to be!

Comms Team signing off... forever: Jared, you are the most disgustingly morally bankrupt person I have ever had the displeasure of working with. You do not care about your constituents. You do not care about anyone but yourself.
— Jared O'Mara (@jaredomaramp) July 23, 2019
― Matt DC, Tuesday, July 23, 2019 12:17 PM (sixteen minutes ago)

loooooooooooool

you can't do your own mic drop gif

aye that was cringe

I guess we are on a heatwave:

Just in case anyone wondered about last week's Look North interview - Jared drank a full litre of vodka beforehand at 11am. He's such a bloody laugh. Twat.

— gareth arnold 🇬🇧 (@garetharnolduk) July 23, 2019

Hugely disappointed to see the Arctic Monkeys gif at the end of that.

Lol my god:

So, my boyfriend @sykurmolarnir_ works/worked for Jared as a caseworker but I reckon he might need a new job, if anyone can help? Sociology 1st from Sheff Un.

— gareth arnold 🇬🇧 (@garetharnolduk) July 23, 2019

fuck that guy is a huge twat

i didn't realise jared had reached that level of self-destructive drinking. jesus christ. But from reports I've read he was a consistently very nasty piece of work without the booze. I'm not being judgemental about the drink problem cos lol I've got one as well. But he seems like a total arsehole.

So, just remembered he needs my phone to login to his Twitter. Shit. Sorry mate. Consider it payback for all the nonsense I said to people defending you.

— gareth arnold 🇬🇧 (@garetharnolduk) July 23, 2019

union jack in the dn and lengthy self-penned wikipedia entry ? fanny

none of the people involved in this are covering themselves in glory

which doesn't make it not looooool

Oh before anyone jumps on me for highlighting his drink and drug addictions - I have tried many many many times to get him to seek help. I personally rang multiple rehabs enquiring for him.

— gareth arnold 🇬🇧 (@garetharnolduk) July 23, 2019

This is shitheadedness of a high order

gareth seems like an absolute twat

yeah. total wank

glad he's very publicly shown himself to be bad at his job

^^^^^

o'mara a total weapon as well so schaudenfraude all round

tbh I'd be tempted to down a load of vodka before going on Look North and then call them out for their Leeds Utd bias.

Is Gration still in charge? We get our own version

I think so yeah, not watched it in a while though.

oh god oh fuck boris committed seppuku

https://66.media.tumblr.com/bfc0b990f8448c504345e8a804e5ec96/dc5cab4c65158243-1c/s1280x1920/133f96e825f217f622d67ebf8509b78500745f36.jpg

I mean metaphorically and politically he already has he just doesn't seem to have realised it yet.

we did say that last time... and, unlike a lot of other people who failed this calculation, he does seem to have some to at least have some grasp of the forces currently at play.

Here's a snap of "Jared O'Mara's comms team" dude Gareth Arnold with Britain First founders Paul Golding and Jim Dowson. Because it's all a laugh, this far-right street movement stuff, innit! https://t.co/Ls59QRvK38 pic.twitter.com/h935Bu12yY

— Red Robbo (@Orwell_Fan_Fan) July 23, 2019

the whistleblower here, what a class they are themselves.

Thought this was quite good https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2019/08/15/boris-johnson-ham-of-fate/

it was, but ilx's issues with the author have been thoroughly covered in his own thread

PMs change and guess who's back: it's teh Scrute!

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/jul/23/roger-scruton-gets-job-back-after-regrettable-sacking

as much as the dissolution of the United Kingdom and the destruction of the Conservative party as an electoral force for a generation is quite an exciting prospect. The return of Scrote and prospect of Priti fucking Patel as home sec is very depressing. Mind you, perhaps we should be grateful she isn't pro death penalty these days.

not even in office yet and he’s getting stared down by jeremy hunt - refusing to move posts again

Bojo can push him out, right? It's not like he'd care about ~party unity~

Not surprising but still funny to see all the Robinson fanboys going "Well actually I don't mind that money I've given him for political campaigning has been spent to feed Tommy and his friends' drug habits". Fuck me, you lot are being grifted hard but you won't admit it! 🤣🤣🤣

— libcom dot org (@libcomorg) July 23, 2019

ha ha some ex Tommy Robinson photographer said all the donations they were receiving was being spent on coke, then she deleted her account.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/24/nissan-plans-to-shed-10000-jobs-worldwide-reports-claim

how much of the im led by donky money is going up james, will, and oliver’s noses

Still can't make it through that NYRB piece. Despise that discussion of the akratic. It's just the thing a literary critic would be intrigued by, as opposed to the cold fact the Boris' position got the novel to be published in the first place despite its merits. Maybe that and his Churchill biog are clues to what is going on inside this tall, blank blonde person with a posh accent. Fuck off.

HUGE BRAIN

One big appointment coming today - Dominic Cummings expected to be senior advisor to the new PM - Vote Leave chief moving into govt - huge brain and experienced in govt, and will be applauded by Brexiteers - highly controversial too

— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) July 24, 2019

how much of the im led by donky money is going up james, will, and oliver’s noses

they're still out there doing their thing so... not enough?

huge brain got me cumming(s)

Married to The Spectator's deputy editor whose Dad has a castle. Sticking it to the elites as ever.

That’s the woman I’m told BJ stalked before she married DC. Ewwwwwwwwww.

lmao, swear these fuckers are on some 'I, Claudius' trip

this is good, normal stuff

Education in England is no better than mediocre, and billions of pounds have been wasted on pointless university courses and Sure Start schemes for young children, Michael Gove’s special adviser has said in an outspoken private thesis written a few weeks before he is due to step down from his post.

Dominic Cummings, the most influential adviser to the education secretary in the past five years, also argues in a revealing 250-page paper that “real talent” is rare among the nation’s teachers – and, eye-catchingly, says educationists need to better understand the impact of genetics on children.

(reported in the graun in 2013)

Time to re-up that or send it to a commentator who might be grateful to be reminded?

sometimes you're right for all the wrong reasons

it was on the graun's liveblog earlier this morning, suzy, which is where i nicked it from

yikes

I have been asked to share this from a previous, deleted account, under one of Arnold's aliases. An appalling tweet from anyone, let alone a supposed staffer to a left-wing MP. The reaction to it is still in evidence through the receipts below.https://t.co/q844lftbKy pic.twitter.com/xR8ifUWz0y

— Red Robbo (@Orwell_Fan_Fan) July 23, 2019

BREAKING: electoral law. The fastest & surest route to power. Cummings masterminded the massive Vote Leave electoral fraud. Johnson headed the campaign & has *never* answered qs about his involvement. Cummings kept his silence. And is now rewarded with top job. Truly, I despair.

— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) July 24, 2019

🙄

Munira Mirza as head of the Number 10 Policy Unit - the Spiked/Institute of Ideas/Living Marxism creep continues...

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) July 24, 2019

Munira Mirza appointed head of policy unit. lol we are all doomed.

xp

*Watches as some of you agree with this*

.@theresa_may last ever remarks to @jeremycorbyn at #PMQs. "He and I are very different people...What we have in common is our commitment to our constituencies. As a party leader who has accepted when her time is up, perhaps the time has come for him to do the same". Wow

— Robert Peston (@Peston) July 24, 2019

Watch half the media start clapping like seals as Johnson appoints a string of high-profile Asian Tories, thus enabling everyone to feel good about their progressive credentials as we end up with the most right-wing government since the war.

that would be Civil War yes?

May there indicating she'd like to see Labour doing better in the polls.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bigZ1fmwD-Q/hqdefault.jpg

that Johnson reshuffle in full

xp if the appointees are rightest-wing Hindu background that will get seal-claps from media centrists and Modi alike (a nationalist problem child the media centrists don’t pay any attention to).

Even James Ball is taken aback by Patel's readmission to the Cabinet so maybe there is hope for the centrists yet.

But May’s final jibe about how it was time for Corbyn to consider standing down too was an effective riposte, principally because it chimed with what many Labour MPs think.

^ from Andrew Sparrow who should resign

From The Guardian:

"May then left the chamber to a standing ovation from Conservative MPs and a few others such as the DUP. "

🤔

Some Labour MPs applauded too. GET 'EM.

Was thinking that Lib Dems would.

The ferociously hard-right appointments don't suggest Johnson is particularly scared about potential defections or VONCs. There's absolutely no concessions to the Stewart / Gauke wing of the party so far.

Think what you like about Priti Patel but she'll be the first Home Secretary in over a century to have advocated threatening Ireland with food shortages. Whatever way you look at it, that's inspiring.

— Séamas It Ever Was (@shockproofbeats) July 24, 2019

Raab rumoured for Foreign Sec. He’s not going to be worse than Johnson.

i'm confident he'll give it his best shot

I had to switch off BBC when their royal correspondent was shiting on about the Latin meaning of “audience”.

Meanwhile, you love to see it:

Woah...pretty sure Labour’s shadow justice secretary Richard Burgon just said “call a by-election you fucker” to @IanAustinMP #pmqs

— Owen Bennett (@owenjbennett) July 24, 2019

labour's shadow justice secretary richard burgon otm

yougov: asking the questions that REALLY matter

https://preview.redd.it/34lbandbq8c31.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=86ac1c45a09baf42c3b665fcbfd69d897bd07f6d

I would contend that none of these are "ice lollies". They are "Ice creams". This is the hill I will die on. https://t.co/dyZehAuTRl

— John Ruddy (@jruddy99) July 24, 2019

fucking bullshit, twisters and fabs are NOT ice-creams you absolute TWAT

lolly we’re all gonna die

toberlone lollies are new big feast, just saying.

those are all lollies ffs nb some of them may be "posh" lollies i'll let somebody else troll that one

ice cream = in a cornet preferably assembled near point of consumption
lolly = on a stick yes shish kebabs are lollies fight me

a head on a pike on London Bridge is a lolly

i would lick it yes

fucking YouGov with their bullshit LibDem Magnum surge.

☀️The BIG summer question🍦✊🍦:

What's your perfect ice lolly / Verso author combo?

The winning choice will be illustrated tomorrow 🌞

— Verso Books (@VersoBooks) July 24, 2019

tbf the guy who called them ice creams appears to be a total melt so he knows whereof he speaks

Raab rumoured for Foreign Sec. He’s not going to be worse than Johnson.

Gavin Williamson is the real unexploded bomb here.

Is this real?

They haven't even spelled Prof Rowbotham's name right.

tbf it is very hot today

undecided which i'd prefer: an awkward ten mins at a table with f.jameson as we both eat fabs, me using mine largely to suppress my trenchant opinions of his bad writing and thinking down the decades, or some crappy photo of a lolly i can't eat next to a book i probably won't read

posting john ruddy is a bigger yellow card than MLC imo

lot of sackings here

Does it count if you’re posting him for mocking?

The Disgraced Liam Fox and Penny Mordaunt are a bit of a surprise all things considered.

A bit surprised by Mordaunt jumping ship (lol) but makes sense if you consider she thinks this government will be a disaster and doesn’t want the taint when she inevitably runs as leader next time.

lol @ Grayling out of cabinet “at his own request”

can't believe Grayling is gone, it's the end of erm...

now we're back to just one terrible grayling, i wonder what he thinks abt lollies

Caroline Nokes sacked

— John Stevens (@johnestevens) July 24, 2019

Good of you to tell me first 😉

— Caroline Nokes (@carolinenokes) July 24, 2019

get hunt sacked

11 cabinet out - just two were Boris Johnson supporters pic.twitter.com/jC0RUdbXzC

— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) July 24, 2019

Look I've already made one poorly received BJ joke on social media this week

Let's just leave this here pic.twitter.com/krKoMZASr2

— Tim Shipman (@ShippersUnbound) July 24, 2019

hunt gone

gearing up for an elx

Robert Peston will always be the absolute worst of those journalists who seem to think politics and 'real life' are not connected in any way pic.twitter.com/9Roh2rYHyu

— Sam ✌️ (@samisam147) July 24, 2019

So this was pretty much on:

PM to be Boris planning ‘Night of the Long Knives X2’ with FOURTEEN cabinet ministers facing chop... pic.twitter.com/j5ZbYvyl73

— MoS_Politics (@MoS_Politics) July 6, 2019

It looks as though we have finished the sacking phase of the reshuffle. Sajid Javid, the home secretary, has just gone through the door at Number 10. He is expected to emerge as home secretary.

Great choice for Chancellor of Exchequer @sajidjavid. He will be key to making this a pro-business administration investing in the whole of the United Kingdom.

— Stephen Crabb (@SCrabbPembs) July 24, 2019

It looks as though we have finished the sacking phase of the reshuffle. Sajid Javid, the home secretary, has just gone through the door at Number 10. He is expected to emerge as chancellor.

Aw man when he abolishes income tax I should be several pounds a month better off

Several pounds? That would have been untold riches for his dad.

Priti Patel in as home sec.

Literally never want to hear any cunt imply Diane Abbott isn’t good enough to be home sec ever again.

Literally never want to hear any cunt imply Diane Abbott isn’t good enough to be home sec ever again.

Not even me in double posts.

announce ross thomson at scottish office u coward

Omg yessssss

mini thread poll while we wait for the carnage: worst Tugedhat tweet?

1)

I’m sorry to see @PennyMordaunt go given the courage she has shown in standing up for our troops against #lawfare. Whoever takes over needs to pick up the issue and fight on. https://t.co/rxVBrJWpVh

— Tom Tugendhat (@TomTugendhat) July 24, 2019

Gin. The gods want more.

— Tom Tugendhat (@TomTugendhat) July 23, 2019

Just found out my @GiveBloodNHS donation has been used at Margate Hospital. Well at least part of me has been to the beach today!

— Tom Tugendhat (@TomTugendhat) July 23, 2019

Deeply amused Alun Cairns survived at Wales - this is his third PM now.

Having never knowingly heard his surname said out loud I like to pronounce it in my head as "tuggin' dat"

xp it's almost like the Tories don't give a fuck about the Welsh office

Hardly anybody seems suited to their roles, which only makes sense if you're basically thinking about an election rather than governing. I know we're planning for one, so why wouldn't Huge Mind be too?

He must be an operational genius tho, cos that bbc drama with Cumbers made him look huge braned!

The Rt Hon Dominic Raab @DominicRaab has been appointed Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs @foreignoffice, and First Secretary of State pic.twitter.com/XEJECtJPsS

— UK Prime Minister (@10DowningStreet) July 24, 2019

Well we know he probably owns an atlas

Yup, totally an election cabinet. The chancer is doing exactly that.

Someone explain the election cabinet thing pls? Cos this looks like the dregs.

A cabinet likely to lose Johnson a VONC at the first opportunity iirc.

I don’t pretend to have the Huge Brain required for this strategy, but it was Javid that made me think: he’s the guy you put in if you want to talk tough about business while actually spaffing election sweeteners all over the shop. Especially if you don’t want actual fiscal policy and all sorts of “we have to save our cash for the incoming apocalypse” quibbles being raised.

And Patel is who you want to talk absurdly and pointlessly tough on law and order, and it won’t hurt if it’s her posturing against Khan as a proxy for Labour in the London seats.

Raab ... I got nothing but since when have Tory voters cared about engaging with foreign?

19:25
Stephen Barclay remains as Brexit secretary

Stephen Barclay is staying as Brexit secretary, Number 10 has announced

who?

sorry i mean "who hell he?" not "who ldgaf?"

Gove appointed chancellor of Duchy of Lancaster

Michael Gove, the environment secretary, has been made chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. That means he will be based in the Cabinet Office.

On paper that does not seem like much of a job. The formal demands of the job are minimal (like appointing vicars in Lancashire). But the title is normally given to a minister given some kind of “fixer” role. David Lidington, Theresa May’s de facto deputy, was chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. Oliver Letwin also held the post.

Over the weekend the Boris Johnson camp briefed that Gove would be getting a promotion. This job could be a promotion, but that will depend on what Johnson asks Gove to “fix”, and how much authority he is given.

The person doing this job also often doubles us as “minister for the Today programme” - ie the government’s go-to media performer. This is something Gove would do very well.

Lolz Truss to International Trade, banter game strong

all the "sorry to see x go" talk made me think some Tories had actually crossed the floor, but hell no, that would be too much to expect after all the talk abt Never Boris

(might some go now the cabinet's been announced? or after a weekend to think about it and discuss it with family? or should I stop deluding myself that such a thing might ever happen?)

Truss and Raab for exploratory cheese and pork markets reconnaissance trip to Calais obv

or should I stop deluding myself that such a thing might ever happen?

This strikes me as the UK equivalent of American liberals pining for 'good' conservative Republicans, so yeah.

i looked at those jon worth flow diagrams for the first time in ages and it seems delusional

https://jonworth.eu/brexit-what-next/

Makes me nostalgic for those long-ago times of certainty. Like every time round the actual result is something batshit-unexpected and thus nowhere to be seen on the pointless flow.

the biggest challenge of all... 👀

2/4 I've been a cabinet minister for every hour my 3 gorgeous children have been alive. So whilst it may seem strange for someone who just tried to become PM (& is a terrible cliche) I have decided now is the time for the biggest challenge of all - to be a GOOD DAD!

— Jeremy Hunt (@Jeremy_Hunt) July 24, 2019

lol oh great

Theresa Villiers returns to cabinet as environment secretary

Theresa Villiers, the former Northern Ireland secretary and another alumnus of the Vote Leave campaign, has returned to the cabinet as environment secretary.

"I have decided now is the time for the biggest challenge of all - to be a GOOD DAD!"

Surely even on here we can't be churlish about a repentant child-abuser making a pledge to change his evil ways.

Hasn’t Villiers got a very slight majority or something?

think it may be a dig at boris “5 or 6 children” johnson

xp

they are the lucky ones!

Ooooh definitely a dig at BJ.

Good lord, Gavin Williamson, sacked a few weeks ago for leaking national security secrets to the press, now in charge of Education.

i always mix him up with Nazi otter-lover Henry Williamson

Nicky Morgan to culture secretary - this is from SEPTEMBER 2018. welcome to the resistance, Nicky https://t.co/9W2vmRDPT8 pic.twitter.com/HA3calWEKa

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) July 24, 2019

The Rt Hon Grant Shapps @grantshapps has been appointed Secretary of State for Transport @transportgovuk pic.twitter.com/lZNqFWXZ3B

— UK Prime Minister (@10DowningStreet) July 24, 2019

lest we forget

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lol One-Nation tories in the area!

In this era it has become clearer than ever that actual One nation Toryism hasn't really been seen since the 70's or Blair's half arsed version in the 90's

"never mind the backstop.. the buck stops here"

^^^
I've always said posh schools are well overrated!

DID HE JUST SAY THAT

I am over on BBC4 watching Mary Beard, who actually knows her shit re: classics, as a form of protest.

Someone explain the election cabinet thing pls? Cos this looks like the dregs.

― gyac, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

The thinking (and this is just as much in regards to Dominic Cummings hire) is to do with uniting the right-wing under leave, getting the Brexit party faithful back, and if successful pushing that Unchained vision through. In a situation with few options..

james butler explains the cabinet: https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/july/bring-your-own-sunshine

(it reads a bit hurried to me in places -- he was also at teh demo -- but JB is always good on process and procedure and where this can create blocks and problems)

Rees-Mogg offered numerous Cabinet roles but didn't fancy the demotion.

xps yeah the assumption I guess is that this neuters the Brexit Party so that they sweep up all single-issue leavers, along with keeping standard Tory scum plus a tiny Boris = ledge contingent; they can rely on media to help most single-issue remainer dopes go lib dem and weaken Labour; non-single-issue votes break messily but don't give enough to ultimately ahem 'let Corbyn in'.

I am cautiously optimistic that this will not work.

Lol:

"High office has spared us Johnson’s long-threatened book on Shakespeare" xp

I don't see how this government can govern, so I think it's a pantomime for a while: blame Europe, blame parliament, blame blame blame, then provoke a vote of no confidence and get to the election with disingenuous reluctance.

xxp a lot of the headbangers out there are ENRAGED by Rudd/Morgan etc in the cabinet.

clearly going to keep on saying "we won't have an election" because he reckons people still fatigued by that prospect - it's nearly inevitable though, and he'll position it as having been foisted on GBP by a recalcitrant EU/WM

I think a lot of those Tory-Lib dem marginals are really done for the Tories. Labour can also demonise the Unchained vision, which is incredibly negative and dark at its core.

And I still think Boris' past -- his role in the Leave campaign as well as his personal life -- will have a role to play.

yup. someone is saving that recording for election week.

I don't see how this government can govern, so I think it's a pantomime for a while: blame Europe, blame parliament, blame blame blame, then provoke a vote of no confidence and get to the election with disingenuous reluctance.

Sounds about right.

Time to check in on what Matthew Goodwin, author of the forthcoming National Populism: The Assault Against Liberal Democracy, is tweeting:

https://i.postimg.cc/fbbhsGF6/ECE2-AC6-C-DE0-C-4-BCC-9-F89-2-A93545-C2-C53.jpg

There is absolutely no way that centre-right liberals are not going to line up behind Johnson, however Atlas Shrugged he goes.

How can there be Islamophobia in the Tory party with a cabinet like this?!

You mean that guy they forgot to invite to meet Trump?

lol! Priti is such a poisonous piece of garbage, can't Macron have her please

On one hand, another big step in the rise of fascism. On the other, this reshuffle means that Bravo Two Zero will be on the GSCE curriculum.

Once you've met some deranged pub bore whose eyes travel in multiple directions and they have a well thumbed copy of Bravo Two Zero with the pages stuck together - that's when you call Prevent. Not make them a fucking minister.

Feel like we should run a sweepstakes on the first one to be sacked.

If I was Corbyn I'd be calling him out on his dare-or-die bullshit and ask him to call an election. The line should be 'what are you afraid of?' from now on.

thanks boris, very cool!

Well, the new Housing Minister is a guy named Robert Jenrick. The multi-millionaire owns 3 houses, and just to show his common touch, he once said he doesn’t “need to have a disabled daughter” to know what it’s like to be hard up.

Absolute tosser.

— Rachael Swindon (@Rachael_Swindon) July 25, 2019

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he seems like a fair lad!

the cold, dead eyes of a killer right there

He's got three houses, so he must be a perfect match on housing amirite?

captain three houses has treble the knowledge!

Had to add a children’s table

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Wonder how brave keyboard warriors would be if they were face to face with my 6’ son and his mates 🍆 https://t.co/kJLw47VBiu

— Kay Burley (@KayBurley) July 25, 2019

uhhhhh

the eggplant emoji is... troubling

Yeah that looks different on Twitter but I lolled either way

lmao

Six inch son?

no no Aubergine is the name of her son's attack dog

Poor kid

#sadnessinhiseyes

This explains a lot. #hottestdayoftheyear pic.twitter.com/dN9YBpvw0k

— 2000 AD Comics (@2000AD) July 25, 2019

Jesus, Prime Minister Johnson in the Commons, with his shitty jokey blustering and playing to the revolting scum on his backbenches, kill me now.

you'll want judge death for that

Labour’s Anneliese Dodds asks why Johnson said so little about the climate emergency if he really cares about it.

Johnson says the Conservatives are the only party that believes private sector-driven new technology can provide a solution to the problem.

lol we're all gonna die

Good thread on how things might play out in the next few months:

So what just happened with @BorisJohnson #Brexit statement?

My take as follows....

tldr; we are heading for a general election. Here's why...

1/Thread

— Peter Foster (@pmdfoster) July 25, 2019

Yes I think that is quite intuitive and is probably what will happen.

what's the answer to private sector-driven new technology which has condemned the entire planet to, at best, a quick death by drowning? yes, it's definitely more private sector-driven new technology

ffs judge death just take us all now

Cool that climate change and the backstop both have exactly the same solution.

Look, this solution the private sector has whipped up will drown everyone 2.5 times quicker than they might otherwise have.

luv2make science fiction the cornerstone of my politics

old lunch this seems as good a time as any to remind you to please read judge dredd before the methane which will be released from under the ice sheets in the coming months kills us all

Thank u, yes, nothing like the impending extinction of the species to spur a reassessment of one's priorities.

Lol wait until they shit a load of money up the wall getting Elon Musk in as the private sector brane genius

musk and tom watson should team up to hunt paedos

high tech paedo hunters and luxury communist asteroid mining ..I want to die ..lol

tbf a nice tube-shaped coffin jammed far down a water-filled mine will be a nice way to escape from the heat as the world burns

A question: May never got VONCed despite having both remainers and hard brexit headbangers lined up against her. Boris will have the former but not the latter - so why is a VONC against him in the least likely to get through? Or are these scenarios regarding elections all projecting into when those will naturally be held?

Several Tories have said they will VONC Boris, that never happened with May. They'll bottle it, of course.

A VONC won't get through yet because Johnson hasn't really set out what he plans to do, so would-be Tory rebels won't vote against him just yet. They need to be absolutely certain he's serious in going for the No Deal option before they do anything. And even then they might bottle it.

It's also not certain that there won't be abstentions in other parts of the Commons, like the Independents, or that eg Kate Hoey won't vote with the government. The margins are very narrow.

bj's already peeled off ian austin

never heard it called that before

it's what you do with scabs

lol! why would he another Israeli envoy when Priti is already in the cabinet .

getting nicely comfy over here in anticipation of johnson cabinets reaction to the EUs only response to this being a very obvious relief that you're not going to be bothering us like may was every few weeks

also im from an island we all have boats and will be very happy when the sea rises

That’s the plan though, isn’t it? Needs an election, needs to blame it on both the EU and parliament.

And needs to keep not defining Brexit all the while. Negotiations would be counterproductive

yeah - thread above on the perceived strategy seems otm. he has to be hoping that enough of the BXP vote returns to the fold, while... not leaking too many cameroonian liberals AND while LAB leak remain ultras to LDs? iunno - just hope mr seumas milne has a strategy calibrated to win the upcoming GE

His thinking will be he can't possibly be worse at campaigning than May was in 2017 and he's probably right to believe that. Where he's wrong is in the belief it will automatically propel him to victory. The factors that buoyed the Labour vote haven't gone away.

The campaign is going to be a hundred times nastier by the way - he is going to lie through his teeth and calling him out for it isn't necessarily going to cut through. The press will be much more vicious now that they perceive Corbyn as a realistic threat to their man in Number 10.

ugh yeah bout to be newer lows digged by papers...somehow - lots more fawning over Symonds and whatever she's wearing as much a part of it as anything

Ugh just saw an item on C4 about the flurry of Facebook ads being trialled by DomCum.

Not sure how nastier the press can be - not as if they were giving him a free pass last time. But their decline has also been a factor in that election, and that hasn't moved.

Johnson's team is now made up entirely of all the people who have ever been on #bbcqt who have made you tweet the words "Fucking hell, who's that absolute psychopath in the blue suit?" https://t.co/dnsJQLC5CY

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) July 25, 2019

on that train of thought - Johnson's manifesto will be a lot tighter (there better not be anything on social care), and there will be giveaways.

In some ways he should have the election now - does save people from having to witness the fuck-ups. Brexit actually taking place and the UK falling into a deep recession could be the biggest fuck-up of all.

the UK falling into a deep recession could be the biggest fuck-up of all.

Deep recession would bring calls from the Tories for stricter austerity, no? Because a sensible nation must not run itself into debt, but rather must be run like a {choose one: A) business B) household}.

think all guiding principles are out of the window now - it’s all about hanging onto power until such time as the situation rights itself

Xxp Yeah i think every day there's no election called his position probably weakens. Even just after the summer holidays might be leaving it too late.

That said, i've often wondered why tories don't try and have elections in autumn/winter, with fewer hours of daylight depressing turnout probably to their advantage

it is with a heavy heart that i must announce that lilico is at it again pic.twitter.com/fjmiOzziuw

— Cynical Bathtub (@cynical_bathtub) July 25, 2019

rly makes u think

been on it since lunchtime I assume

Inspiring

"coloured" is what my granny would say when she was trying to be pc and she was born in the 1920s. fucking lilico

another banner day for UK liberals showing their arses

The country is facing the gravest crisis since the war. The leader of the Opposition is speaking out ... about ...this. https://t.co/UORsQkis7B

— Gavin Esler (@gavinesler) July 25, 2019

The leader of the opposition responds to the Cabinet changes ... https://t.co/ClgtiNLmrF

— alan rusbridger (@arusbridger) July 24, 2019

Look, giving a shit about working class people is the old politics.

Lolico has a mixed race son so I think he he feels that vindicates him defending any archaic racist terms he feels like defending. it should be the other way round really, but he's a nasty piece of work and a complete moron.

Listening to Evan Davies and some Labour melt talking about how significant it was that Corbyn didn't attack Boris with the correct style of playground insults at PMQ today.

lol I’ve said this before but I kind of agree about the term poc, it’s maybe unfortunate that consensus landed on a term that legit sounds like someone was about to say “coloured ppl” and halfarsedly changed at the last second to a clunky hedging construction because that’s what they think political correctness is

Fuck you Esler, you Edinburgh cunt.

I was just thinking that Chloe Westley was the one name I was surprised not to see!

the heat really got to us on that day when Lolico made us think.

Fuck Evan Davies as well the lame tory prick and corporate arselicker. Earlier he had someone from big aircraft manufacturing saying how great it is that planes are always nearly full these days thus making them much greener and he so weakly challenged the cunt on this transparent hogwash that he might as well not bothered. And then of course his earnest concern trolling about Corbyn not being good at insulting Boris. ffs bring back Eddie Mair to pm.

"People of colour" places the primary emphasis on their being people, while "coloured people" puts the primary emphasis on their color.

Am bizarrely cheered by Francois on Newsnight. They’re going to continue to be headbangers for No Deal, so the maths is never going to work out.

And even if they win the next election I’m not sure how that’s going to help - unless they rout every Remain Tory (seems unlikely) we could be back here again soon. Only thing that might do is getting enough seats to cut the DUP out and then shafting N Ireland, I suppose.

it's absolutely delicious that british tories and northern irish unionists are engineering a united ireland. only upside from brexit that i can see

Brussels has roundly rebuffed Boris Johnson after he laid down tough conditions for the new Brexit deal he hopes to strike over the summer.

Speaking to the House of Commons for the first time as prime minister on Thursday, Johnson reiterated his campaign pledge of ditching the Irish backstop and promised to ramp up preparations for a no-deal Brexit immediately.

“I would prefer us to leave the EU with a deal,” he said. “I would much prefer it. I believe that it is possible even at this late stage, and I will work flat-out to make it happen.

“But certain things need to be clear: the withdrawal agreement negotiated by my predecessor has been three times rejected by this house; its terms are unacceptable to this parliament and to this country.”
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In a phone call later in the day, the European commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, signalled the EU27’s determination to stick with the deal negotiated with Theresa May’s government – which includes the backstop.

“President Juncker listened to what Prime Minister Johnson had to say, reiterating the EU’s position that the withdrawal agreement is the best and only agreement possible – in line with the European council guidelines,” a commission spokesperson said.

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Steve "brexit Hardman" Baker is even too damn tough and uncompromising for this shower of right wing bastardos. Or perhaps he knows this ship isn't seaworthy and will sink like a rock.

as suggested upthread already the plan at this point isn't to get a new deal really

xp

oops just read about his butthurtness at not getting an important cabinet post. lol RIP brexit hardman.

as suggested upthread already the plan at this point isn't to get a new deal really

yeah of course - this elaborate kabuki from the uk side is fucking infuriating though

also i just enjoy posting shockedpikachu.png

i v much enjoy shocked pikachu in any context yeah

Not sure how nastier the press can be - not as if they were giving him a free pass last time. But their decline has also been a factor in that election, and that hasn't moved.

Their decline has arguably increased, but at the same time they can do a lot worse than 'Stick Him In The Cor-Bin' - and indeed they did to Ed Miliband, who they genuinely believed could become PM. They didn't see Corbyn as a serious threat in 2017 but they will this time, especially with their man in Number 10.

Thought they really went for it after his speech post-Manchester attacks. And looking at that JohnSUN headline today is basically an inverse of CorBIN lol. One hopes it has the same level of impact.

only upside from brexit that i can see

― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:54 (yesterday) link

Scotland also gone too, my friend. Lower rents. Capital flight, maybe? Very de-growth policies here.

Listening to Evan Davies and some Labour melt talking about how significant it was that Corbyn didn't attack Boris with the correct style of playground insults at PMQ today.

I tht Corbyn was p. good and reinvigorated at PMQs y/day but then Boris just went "lol didn't notice a question wifflewaffle Venezuela" or something (not sure, had to turn it off as soon as Boris started tbh) and was immediately crowned the winner by our eight billion horrible pandering commentators who will later be very surprised when something happens and Boris is Officially Bad and say "why didn't anyone say anything sooner?!" so fuck everything.

Also I am the whiniest Brexit-bad remoaniac melt ever (at least on ILX) and still all these fucking FBPEers being outraged every time Corbyn says anything about anything that isn't Brexit can get in the bin.

The right playing divide and conquer pretty nicely, setting everyone else against each other as they order up their microtargeted Facebook ads to be all things to all people. The mixed messaging may not work quite as well at a GE as in a referendum, but it still might not need to in a country with FPTP and a press with 0 interest in holding these people to account.

"Also I am the whiniest Brexit-bad remoaniac melt ever (at least on ILX)"

For the record you are far from that.

his attack on Boris was quite pointed and correct. If leadership is all about zingers in the playground then too bad because hardly anybody is watching this crap anyway!

yeah spacey get in the queue

that spacey queue in full

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I think that a Labour government led by Corbyn is the strongest bulwark the UK has against a slide into ultra-nationalist politics.

I also think for that to be the case at the next election (which might be much sooner than anticipated), certain issues need addressing urgently.

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) July 25, 2019

This sums my feelings up reasonably well. I think focusing on FBPE types underestimates the growing sense of frustration and unease among Momentum types. Shifting into election mode as soon as possible would probably solve that, if only to end this seemingly endless torturous deadlock.

Cummings's referendum strategy = there are a lot of sponge-brained non-voters who can be flattered/cajoled into believing that a vote on one specific issue will be their affirmation against the void

i don't think that plays out the same at a GE, and i think his strategy will be closer to "how can we max out the hateful would-be fascist vote" and relying on liberals to do their traditional job of supporting fascism on the down low

it's gonna be absolutely "fun" to see how this works out

They include building high-performing teams, using forecasting tournaments, conducting “pre-mortems”, creating “red teams”, harnessing new data-visualisation techniques, utilising computational models and drawing on some recent thinking about mega-projects.

some of Cummings ideas to reform Whitehall sounds like more barmy shit that works just gr8 in US big tech.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/25/dominic-cummings-no-10-nasa-control-centre-adviser-civil-service

lol we're al..

The fashtops got spooked by Corbyn's chances after the manifestos so yeah they did go hard but he was still the 'Jezter'. This time they will probably paint him more as too stern and dictatory (ie project onto him what backfired for May).

i think alongside the "lunatic Trot who will sell out our nation and usher in a socialist dictatorship" you're gonna get a lot of "confused old duffer unfit to match wits with super-smart 2010s kid BJ" stuff

Yeah the press might as well have been writing Miliband’s name with echoes around it for the worst parts of that campaign.

The best route for Labour is to double down on the stuff that worked last time, win the social media election and have crystal clear policy positions. It's going to be tougher with Boris lying left right and centre and pledging to throw money at things that are more popular than "we'll sell your house from under you to pay for your care in old age". But he's also more toxic than even May was and the LibDems might yet end up doing Labour a favour by eroding into the soft Tory base.

xxp this doesn’t work well with reality, people might not like Corbyn but he is very much a certain type of weird & that doesn’t go along with what they’re trying to project onto him. He was very chill during GE17 campaigning apart from the end of the Neil interview.

Also there are very few Cabinet ministers who can be trusted not to completely shit the bed during an election campaign.

IIRC when election broadcast regs kicked in, people got a more rounded picture of Corbyn. The past two years there’s been endless chipping away at that, which is bad for left morale. I’m never shocked now by the amount of weird instant lines taken by Westminster bubble types that are wrong or unfair, which get all over the news before being quietly walked back to reflect actual facts.

Last I checked, Dominic Cumming was still held in contempt of Parliament so how is it he gets a Palace of Westminster pass?

nothing matters anymore iirc

Can't wait for the election so that Sarkar and young Momentum members can stop asking for a fucking babysitter. Yes uncle Corbyn will be there at a rally near you soon!

Most of the 'new' government are also in contempt so it's...fine

welp

Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the US House of Representatives, has restated her view that congress will not pass a UK-US trade deal if Boris Johnson’s government puts the open border between Ireland and Northern Ireland at risk, the Irish Times reports. Pelosi said:

"We made it clear in our conversations with senior members of the Conservative party earlier this year that there should be no return to a hard border on the island. That position has not changed. Any trade deal between the US and Great Britain would have to be cognisant of that."

Thank u Nancy!

yaaass kween slay etc

lol @ the amount of bootlickers in the replies upset Corbyn wants to take away their right to boil to death at a desk

Everyone should have the right to basic protections from working in unbearably hot conditions.

In government we'll demand that employers look after their workers during heatwaves like this.#heatwavehttps://t.co/tXyRqfKh8o

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) July 25, 2019

lol @ the amount of bootlickers in the replies upset Corbyn wants to take away their right to boil to death at a desk

Everyone should have the right to basic protections from working in unbearably hot conditions.

In government we'll demand that employers look after their workers during heatwaves like this.#heatwavehttps://t.co/tXyRqfKh8o

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) July 25, 2019

Seriously, what is the point of even looking at this stuff?

grim lols before the power goes out forever and we start butchering our neighbours over the last can of beans iirc

If you're lucky you might get one of these irrational ham-faced social media pricks.

it's all i have to look forward to anymore tbh

Also I am the whiniest Brexit-bad remoaniac melt ever (at least on ILX) and still all these fucking FBPEers being outraged every time Corbyn says anything about anything that isn't Brexit can get in the bin.

I will slap-fight you for that position, but otherwise OTM (as is the Ash Sarkar thread)

Everyone wants to take my badge away! But yes, good Ash Sarkar thread.

xxp this doesn’t work well with reality, people might not like Corbyn but he is very much a certain type of weird & that doesn’t go along with what they’re trying to project onto him.

I think possibly you (gyac) or someone here described him as a stereotypical chill older gardening type (I forget the exact wording, so sorry if I've misremembered) and I laughed because I realised an older friend who is suspicious of JC the politician is married to someone very Corbyn-like!

not for me to say but S Bush, or similar, said people understand him even if they don’t like him and every English person knows someone like him. Odd but in a way that people recognise - as opposed to Gove, for example.

Corbyn the weirdo meanwhile Johnson paints a box bus

corbyn a frail old man whilst johnson is a picture of health

yeah i was gonna say, corbyn as weird in a world where our current prime minister is a bumbling public-school solipsist and our previous one was a transporter accident that melded together a terminator and a vulture is... not a reality i recognise

I’m not saying he is objectively weird, I’m saying that’s part of how he’s portrayed - I guess he’d be “eccentric” if he was on the right - but nonetheless it’s a portrayal that is both more accurate, more benign and more recognisable than any of the shite trying to paint him as autocratic or aggressive.

don't think i suggested that unsympathetic journos would paint him as weird but as a duffer, the PMQs bullshit the other day is the prelude to that. the truth of it has got fuck all to do with whether it will be continually pushed as a story.

very sick of that very old out of date photo of Cummings the press keep insisting on

"he totally freaks ordinary people out, like some kind of GEOGRAPHY TEACHER lol!"

and of course the idea of him as autocratic and aggressive is already well-established among a certain subset of perma-Tories especially in the working/lower middle class, the pure strain that goes back well beyond Robert Tressell's totally accurate portraits.

all future press pics of Cummings should just be of Cummerbund

as smaug

yes

one's a terrifying reptile intent on hoarding wealth for himself and the other is &c &c

(self fp'd for antisemitism obv)

yeah the irl NASA command genius doesn't look half as clever and mysterious as he is portrayed. then use Mads Mikkelsen as a stand in for Milne.

meanwhile let's check in with legendary british entrepreneur and proud patriot james dyson

The inventor of the bagless vacuum cleaner, James Dyson, has reportedly lined up the purchase of a second luxury property in Singapore, complete with an infinity pool and indoor waterfall.

Weeks after it was revealed that he had snapped up the city-state’s priciest penthouse, the Straits Times newspaper reported on Friday that the British billionaire had been given approval to buy another hugely expensive home.

The house, which was marketed at about S$45m (£26.5m), faces Singapore’s Unesco-listed Botanic Gardens.

For foreigners and permanent residents to be allowed to purchase landed property in Singapore they must have made “exceptional economic contributions in Singapore”, the newspaper said.

Dyson, 72, a prominent supporter of Brexit, announced plans in January to move his company’s head office from Britain to Singapore to be closer to its fastest-growing markets. His firm plans to build its first electric car in the city-state.

Dyson has also purchased a three-storey “super penthouse” at the top of Singapore’s tallest building. He reportedly paid £43m for the five-bedroom property which comes complete with a 600-bottle wine cellar.

struggling to get my head around a penthouse with a wine cellar tbh but i guess that's why i'm not a billionaire

the wine cellar is the rest of the building, i break the maths down as follows to some extent:

tanjong pagar centre = 64 floors =
3 storeys for the penthouse
one for the groundfloor lobby
the rest of the building = one floor per ten bottles (presumably one per room that's how i do it)

damn that's some real billionaire mindset shit

tapping_temple_wisely.gif except it's my gold top hat i'm tapping

if we're advocating for an unsympathetic approach to dealing with lexit labour members in clps and the unions on the basis of faith in cold electoral maths then there's no way that we can then insist the extremely loyal and reliable momentum contingent need to be appeased. in any case there's plenty of common ground to focus on and all this concern trolling is counterproductive

It's only concern trolling if the primary aim is to undermine while pretending to help. Tom Watson is concern trolling, Ash Sarkar clearly isn't.

Ultimately debate and dissent between groups whose primary aims are ultimately aligned (ie not including the Labour right) should be healthy and pretending otherwise does no one any favours. In the end what matters is that Labour win the election or at least emerge as the largest party and if they do then whatever strategy is taken will be vindicated.

The wider impact is negligible because the only people who notice or care what Ash Sarkar thinks already have a position on the issue that's unlikely to be changed either way.

afaict momentum ppl are largely calmly posting as they always do, even if they occasionally get suckered into the hysterical noise of the theatre. sarkar might know some ppl are v frustrated but this looks miles away from becoming a significant factor in labours electoral strategy and the idea that corbyn is at risk of losing his young remainer base has been pushed for a while be foot stomping remainers and hacks like behr who might say they would like labour to be electable but actually might vote lib dem or green if they feel like the messaging has not been to their liking. the underlying landscape remains unchanged, including the fact that as ever some ppl need to get a grip

that's barely english but you'll manage

otm

> gold top hat

gold-top hat

The issue isn't whether or not votes from Momentum types are at risk, with the exception of a small amount maybe flaking off the Greens they clearly aren't. I don't think Lexit types in unions and CLPs are either really. Other groups, maybe.

Ultimately if Labour are successful then it will be written off as having held their nerve, if they aren't it will look like complacency.

Obviously the picture will change quickly once the parties are in campaign mode but I think people can be forgiven for being fearful and nervous in the midst of all this agonising paralysis.

get suckered into the hysterical noise of the theatre

Did you mean: any other word

Sarkar isn't a random person. She has a following and a responsibility to represent what is going on in the Corbyn base with accuracy. xp

the ppl who will pass such a verdict on labour don't matter. the underlying landscape that determines what the choices are has been clear for a long time and will remain so at least until the next GE. it's odd to see the fretting bc having felt sick with and desperate abt domestic politics my entire life this seems like the most straightforward and easy to navigate period I have ever known. I can only say Seriously, what is the point of even looking at this stuff?, chin up, & join the party!

At the same time it looks like Jo Swinson might turn out to be an asset to the Labour Party if she keeps banging on about coalitions, which Cable was at least self-aware enough to shut up about.

this seems like the most straightforward and easy to navigate period I have ever known

There are plenty of minority groups within the country who don't really have the luxury of being chill about the current situation, though.

Labour policy as it stands is effectively a referendum between Soft Brexit and Remain, that's about as good an outcome as can realistically be expected, whether Rafael Behr or whoever is throwing a tantrum isn't really my concern.

There are plenty of minority groups within the country who don't really have the luxury of being chill about the current situation, though.

I'm just talking abt political/electoral strategy. Despite how bad things are & how high the stakes are theres a clearer and stronger left wing project than there has been in my lifetime

Ash and Owen are quite a team huh?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/26/election-labour-johnson-tory-vote-jeremy-corbyn

"That isn’t to pretend Labour is in a good place now – it isn’t. The Brexit culture war has sapped the party’s sense of insurgency and caused rampant disillusionment among its 2017 electoral coalition. At an anti-Boris Johnson protest organised by radical grassroots movements on Wednesday, I encountered profound disenchantment with Labour, a sense that the party isn’t present, and a repeated demand that they “step up”. This should be core “Oh, Jeremy Corbyn” territory: it’s worrying for the party’s prospects that at present, it is not."

They were both there on that tough Wednesday night. He is still pushing that please-back-another-vote line, but if you look at the piece he links to its a piece on polling data by Peter Kellner:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/27/labour-vote-referendum-jeremy-corbyn

I just skimmed it but I have no confidence in Yougov and I think Owen should actually go out of London and look at Labour Leave areas and be actually useful (and no this is not a call to become a John Harris-type, how about talking to Momentum activists in those areas instead?) It isn't Tom Watson-type wrecking but there are shades of concern trolling and ends up as attempts to further demoralise. Hopefully not many people are giving a shit what Owen thinks about anything.

data from YouGov might as well be coming straight from CCHQ. And I don't have a jizzfest every time Labour go ahead in the polls. But I do follow the poll of polls tracker enough to know bullshit when I see it.

xp See, I wasn't sure what your previous post meant - to clarify, it's that she has a responsibility to represent what is going on in the Corbyn base with accuracy, and that you have determined that she's not?

the chattering commentariat got to chatter I guess, but lazy, kneejerk analysis is becoming OJ's main stock-in-trade at times.

Isn't he constantly touring around the country? As I've mentioned before he's a weathervane but the idea that he hasn't spoken to Momentum activists across the country doesn't strike me as accurate.

Tactical voting at its finest pic.twitter.com/gYJDmdcNSU

— RopesToInfinity (@RopesToInfinity) July 26, 2019

The amount of shite OJ gets itt, while mainstream commentators skate by pumping this poison out, never ceases to amaze me.

There is no more racially divisive force in UK politics than Corbynism. It is more dangerous now than the NF or the BNP or the EDL.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) July 26, 2019

I see @DPJHodges is trending because of this tweet. Why? Because the anti-Semitic defenders of Jeremy Corbyn are all piling on. The truth is that the NF, BNP & EDL never came within a million miles of power, while Corbyn could be our next Prime Minister. That’s why it matters. https://t.co/2zd1m9MjDP

— Julia Hartley-Brewer (@JuliaHB1) July 26, 2019

Like, fuck’s sake, why is this clown still employed? He’s clearly useful to someone.

The Corbynites want Asian people to be too afraid to enter the cabinet room. What's your view on that.

— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) July 26, 2019

Every so often I remember that Dan Hodges designed a Falklands War-themed board game for one player that takes four hours to play and I just feel such overwhelming happiness.

the usefulness of hodges is to signal to daily mail readers that the "former left" are now staunchly with the right: it's affirmation of a well established constituency prejudice (as the JHB response demonstrates)

a red rag always useful too

re AS and OJ: the sense of drift is i think as much as anything bcz (stubbornly! and perhaps correctly!)* lab comms still has has a low opjnion of the value and efficacy of first response (and is somewhat ideologically leery of it). which means over the long haul that labour's semi-freelance mainstream first responders, feeling they've been left to drift (they have!) and with their time not filled by the leadership handing on messages to process and deliver, begin to interpret their own specific unmooredness as a general unmooredness

*i still think there is a price to be paid for this now very firmly hewn-to line, that time and energy spent winning the day is time wasted, and this is part of that price. they are sensing drift bcz they are drifting, and they are drifting bcz they are not being steered…

"Isn't he constantly touring around the country?"

From my reading of Ogmor's posts Momentum is onwards, I don't get the feeling of conflict. So if OJ is travelling around the country why am I not seeing more of a mixed picture? Also it does seem to be a focus on young activists and the base isn't just that one demographic? xps

xp See, I wasn't sure what your previous post meant - to clarify, it's that she has a responsibility to represent what is going on in the Corbyn base with accuracy, and that you have determined that she's not?

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 26 July 2019 bookmarkflaglink

She has written before this on the need to back another vote. Then she goes out to the protest, sees a lack of enthusiasm and goes from there. Then Owen writes this a few hours later. Has she talked to activists in other regions? Labour leave isn't in London.

Is there much of a Labour Leave/Momentum crossover? Is there a reason why morale would be high among Labour Leave given the current Brexit position? Is morale within the Labour left higher in the North of England right now? Serious questions.

Looking at this they should be more concerned about Scotland right now: http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/labour

And looking at this the Midlands is the real concern for them, defensively: http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground/targets/conservative

How popular is a Boris government likely to be in Midlands marginals, particularly those with big Asian populations?

At least we are moving away from London Wednesday night now.

@TonyParsonsUK
5h5 hours ago
In the Seventies, we made our own fun. One summer, we found a piece of rope. It was bloody great.

Didn't embed because the tweet includes an old photo of him in his pants you're welcome

(gyac this is how you do it)

thought this was an interesting thread

1/ I've done this before but on a day like today it's worth remembering the striking difference in the way the EU and UK see the backstop. From the Brussels furnace, based on convos with officials/diplomats, the EU perspective (not advocating either way just reporting as ever).

— Nick Gutteridge (@nick_gutteridge) July 25, 2019

Have the chants started in Parliament yet to send Boris Johnson back to the "crime infested shithole" he came from? (i.e., Manhattan's Upper East Side)

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) July 26, 2019

poll

ITV News exclusive: @Jacob_Rees_Mogg issues new style guide to his staff demanding male MPs are called Esq, the use of imperial measurements and which words are banned (but not 'not fit for purpose'), reports @PaulBrandITV https://t.co/0LNgWW9Bxj pic.twitter.com/re6fQmqyz2

— ITV News (@itvnews) July 26, 2019

two spaces after a full-stop. didn't think this cunt could get any worse

all top-hats must be at least 40% saturated with mercury compounds

Fascinating stress-test going on about what parts of Cameron’s approach were and weren’t necessary here. https://t.co/dEURsBorom

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) July 26, 2019

"no comma after and"

who was doing this anyway?

that's the oxford comma. i assume he's reluctant to call it by its name because he thinks it reflects poorly on oxford.

my impression is that although momentum is attractive to lexiters, bennites, ppl w/ grudges against their CLPs, and various older ppl that like to bloviate in meetings while calling ppl comrade, they are not generally at the centre of things and momentum have done a good job at organising locally and broadening their base. I have been surprised by how many of those old left ppl are generally abt tho, I think they're often underestimated.

I think a lot of labour leavers are not that hardcore, mb even a majority are soft lexiters who don't like the EU or remainer discourse but don't as an overwhelming priority, even if they might think it's an obviously opportune moment to leave & be annoyed on democratic grounds etc.

but yes it's very difficult for labour when the constituencies that will decide the election include a lot of scottish ones and some of the most strongly leave english ones

xp. oxford comma is before and!

is it like “and, as if that weren’t bad enough,”

double space after full stops? mogg is a savage

xp. aah. that sounds right

I’ll wait for the gold top hats among us to confirm