British Right-Wing Pundits

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There seems to be lots of threads about US right wing pundits but a cursory search, and searchs for "richard littlejohn" and "melanie phillips" don't bring up much of interest, so erm who are the big players? Littlejohn, Phillips, Simon Heffer? Why don't they have as big "voices" as their American counterparts? How do they differ? Do we haves over here a LIBERAL ELITE keeping them down?

erm search / destroy if you want...

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

And then there's Peter Hitchens

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

People forget Clarkson, the man is probably by a fair distance Britain's most "powerful" journalist (and he came up through journo college and the local newspapers like you're meant to as well).

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm sure The Lex will be along to defend Phillips in a bit.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Why? Does she like Paris Hilton too?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link

From a hack standpoint, watching Littlejohn try and alter his rhetoric since moving from The Sun to the Mail has been pretty fascinating. He doesn't fit in at the mail, it's like watching some scally squeezed into a Matalan suit for a court appearance. He does his best work as the White Van Man spokesperson, not for people who suffer heart attacks every time the house price market changes slightly. More builder's tea than Whittards.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link

what does Garry Bushell do now he's apparently no longer a TV critic?

Why don't they have as big "voices" as their American counterparts?

they literally have less reach? not as big a field to operate in? the media is 'bigger' in the US?

blueski, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Simon Heffer is too much of a hilarious cartoon villain to be properly annoying

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway, could yr Bill O'Reillies or yr Anne Coulters drop gems like this?

Let's get the caveat out of the way from the off. The five women murdered in Ipswich were tragic, lost souls who met a grisly end. I sincerely hope whoever killed them is caught, charged and convicted.

No one with a shred of humanity would wish upon them their ghastly lives and horrible deaths. But Mother Teresa, they weren't.

And I know this might sound frightfully callous in the current hysterical, emotional climate, but we're not all guilty.

We do not share in the responsibility for either their grubby little existences or their murders. Society isn't to blame.

It might not be fashionable, or even acceptable in some quarters, to say so, but in their chosen field of "work'=", death by strangulation is an occupational hazard.

That doesn't make it justifiable homicide, but in the scheme of things the deaths of these five women is no great loss.

They weren't going to discover a cure for cancer or embark on missionary work in Darfur. The only kind of missionary position they undertook was in the back seat of a car.

Of course their friends and families are grieving. That's what friends and families do. But they should also be asking themselves if there was anything they could have done to prevent what happened.

If you discovered your daughter had gone on the game to feed her heroin habit, wouldn't you move heaven and earth to get her off it?

Frankly, I'm tired of the lame excuses about how they all fell victim to ruthless pimps who plied them with drugs. These women were on the streets because they wanted to be.

We are all capable of free will. At any time, one or all of them could have sought help from the police, or the church, or a charity, or a government agency specifically established to deal with heroin addicts. They chose not to.

The tortuous twistings of the sisterhood over the past week have been a joy to behold. The 30-yearold Spare Rib T-shirts have been brought out of mothballs and we've been treated to the All Men Are Bastards/Rapists/Murderers mantra from assorted Glendas who ought to be old enough to know better.

We've heard the well-rehearsed arguments for legalised and regulated prostitution, as if we were living under the Taliban. The fact is, we've already got de facto legal brothels on every High Street.

They're call saunas or massage parlours.

As I remarked when the Labour MP Joe Ashton was once caught in a Siamese "sauna" in Northampton, he must have been the only man in Britain ever to go to a massage parlour for a massage. It doesn't get much more glamorous than that.

These five women were on the streets because even the filthiest, most disreputable back-alley "sauna" above a kebab shop wouldn't give them house room.

The men who used them were either too mean to fork out whatever a massage parlour charges, or simply weren't fussy. Some men are actually turned on by disgusting, drug-addled street whores. Where there's demand, there'll always be supply.

This wasn't a case of women going on the game to put bread on the table, or to look after their "babies". That's what the welfare state is for. They did it for drugs.

The gormless Guardianistas simply refuse to confront this blindingly obvious reality. They would rather deify celebrity druggies such as Kate Moss and Will Self than face the truth that hard drugs wreck lives.

What I find most objectionable about all this is the attempt to make us all feel responsible for the murders. There is a nasty whiff of Lady Di about the enforced mood of mourning, with even the Old Bill coming across like hand-wringing archbishops.

At Ipswich Town's home game on Saturday, there was a minute's silence. We were supposed to believe that this was a true reflection of the community's sympathy.

I don't buy it. Most people went along with it in the spirit of emotional correctness and through fear of getting their heads kicked in if they didn't.

There was only one thing missing, but don't bet against it.

When Blair gets back from saving the Middle East, don't be surprised if he turns up at the funeral of one of these unfortunate women to deliver a lip-trembling, tear-stained eulogy: "She was the People's Prostitute".

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe difference between US "what the government is doing is right but it is being hampered by imaginary lefty conspiracy" vs UK's more marginalised "everything everyone does is wrong and gives you cancer, whatever happened to the good old days wahhh"

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

old people: who did the mail / sun tilt against during the thatcher years? the oppositon?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

The unions

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Looney Left, Militant up in Liverpool, Red Ken down in London. "THEY'RE BANNING OUR KIDS FROM SINGING "BAA BAA BLACK SHEEP"" political correctness gone mad stuff.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link

And, yeah, Scargill obviously.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Ginger lefties

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Argies

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

jon gaunt

djmartian, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link

And blacks.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Rightwing pundits don't have quite the sway in the UK they have in the U.S. because the whole political compass is skewed a little more to the left in Britain. The UK doesn't have that gigantic Jesus-and-gun-loving constituency that exists in the U.S.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link

because the whole political compass is skewed a little more to the left in Britain

What?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link

You heard me.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The whole political compass = right of centre main parties + "extremist crackpots"

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

"Little" being the operative word

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:14 (fourteen years ago) link

skewed towards the US left, i.e. the right by any 20th century standard.

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Talking of crackpots, get a read of the Scottish Christian Party manifesto:

9. Prisons
The Scottish Christian Party believes that the much needed extra prison
capacity should be purchased from developing countries for the purpose
of catering for Scotland’s medium Security Prisons. This should take the
form of building state of the art prison facilities in developing countries
that wish to host Scottish Prisons.
Advantages would include:
1. Less overcrowded prisons, cheaper costs and greater efficiency
2. More resources at home to look after our worst offenders properly
3. More economic trade instead of aid handouts to developing
countries
4. Raising prison standards in developing countries by example and
the provision of expertise.

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

They say this is no different to setting up call centres abroad.

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

'by any 20th century standard'

what now?

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link

do they have less sway cos the most emotive right / left battles have been "won"? ie the unions, the acceptability of prejudice? i think they are "learning" from the american's clarkson's whole schtick is provication isn't it, look how angry i can make these daft eco-nuts!

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Between 1980 and the present the whole political spectrum in the western world has been drifting rightwards back into liberalism (with certain conservative tendencies)

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

british journalism is more frivolous and clubbable than US journalism. all UK hacks know each other. this probably isn't so much the case in the states.

yes ed i know. but the idea that liberalism is the worst the 20th century right has to offer is batshit insane. as is the idea that welfare capitalism was some kind of 'left'. even without factoring in the fact that at the start of the century liberalism was kind of... left-wing.

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

outsourcing prisons to eastern european countries in the EC - who will be the first New Labour or Tories?

djmartian, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Send 'em all to Botany Bay.

I think for historical reasons the U.S. has this strong libertarian streak (ie right to bear arms etc.) coupled with a strong religious/puritan streak. Put the two together and they coelesce into a very strong, very dynamic right-wing culture that simply doesn't exist in the UK. And that's why rightwing pundits don't have so much sway. I mean David Cameron would be quite a bit to the left of most Democrat candidates.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean David Cameron would be quite a bit to the left of most Democrat candidates.

Not where it matters he isn't

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Rightwing pundits have an absolute fuckload of sway, party politics is an irrelevence here. Ask White Van Man what he thinks about asylum seekers.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I would say that liberalism was progressive not left- wing per say. And whether or not you think 'welfare capitalism' is of the left or not, the centre is to the right of even that now.

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost to Tom D.

Where it matters? Well for a start I'm guessing Cameron's not going to dismantle the NHS in any fundamental way. Can you imagine a serious Democrat candidate proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare?

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

british reactionary right is xenophobic and defensive rather than on constant attack like the americans?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Where it matters? Well for a start I'm guessing Cameron's not going to dismantle the NHS in any fundamental way. Can you imagine a serious Democrat candidate proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare?

We'll see how good that guess is when he wins the next election. Cameron isn't proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare either, we've already got it. Cameron is only "radical" when it comes to wearing a wind turbine on your head or cycling backwards on a bicycle made entirely of radishes

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

You sure you're not mixing up David Cameron with John Otway?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

And Wild Willie Whitelaw?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

upthread are you dudes talking economic or social liberalism? or both?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

both

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost

Sure, Cameron didn't come up with free healthcare! But the political climate is such that he'd have a hard time getting rid of it. Which underlines my point about the political background being skewed more leftwards in the UK, despite years of Thatcher/Blair.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

"Cameron isn't proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare either, we've already got it."

well except for things involving teeth or eyes, ie the only two things i ever go in for...

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

just going to say

Alan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

We'll see how hard a time he has getting rid of it, it'll be less hard than you think once he persuades the middle classes it's in their interest (xxpost)

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, I think if it were politically possible to get rid of the NHS, it would have already been done. Anyway, doesn't Cameron have a disabled kid or something. He probably uses the NHS more than the average Tory.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

They are getting rid of it already, piece by piece

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

um guys the nhs is already on the way out...

xpost!

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link

no it’s not

Left, Sunday, 31 January 2021 13:15 (four months ago) link

A happy(?) accident.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 January 2021 13:18 (four months ago) link

patricia lockwood's books/poetry are not as good as you might hope. i think there's something ultimately ephemeral about her writing that doesn't work in those forms. i have one of her collections of poetry and i enjoyed it at first but its much more conservative in outlook than i would have hoped and i felt very underwhelmed by it.

plax (ico), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:14 (four months ago) link

there was a poem that was very 'honoring our troops' that made me do a face

plax (ico), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:14 (four months ago) link

plax you're not the first person to have said that, and despite my general enjoyment of Lockwood in the LRB as a good counterweight, i'm not feeling a huge urge to go into the wider works.

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:51 (four months ago) link

oh that's interesting, i hadn't actually encountered that said about her. disappointingly nobody i've seen writing about her has really done her the courtesy of engaging with her writing beyond 'poet laureate of twitter' laziness. i do enjoy her as a 'breath of fresh air' lol

plax (ico), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:08 (four months ago) link

just in case of any doubt that wasn't a 'plax why are you repeating that old saw about her being not as good as you might hope,' just that i've heard from other people something similar, and my response was 'ah right, yes, another person i trust basically saying this' (I haven't seen it much out in the wild as an opinion tbh).

Lord of the RONGS (Fizzles), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:23 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

pouring one out for Darren "Grimesy" Grimes who is leaving London to go back to his mum's house, RIP big man

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Friday, 19 February 2021 10:55 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

On 13 December 2020 I made defamatory statements about @AyoCaesar, which I sincerely regret and retract and have undertaken not to repeat. I have agreed to pay substantial damages to Ash Sarkar and her legal costs. Here is my full and wholehearted apology. Please retweet pic.twitter.com/tc2aUKbCOK

— Julie Burchill (@BoozeAndFagz) March 16, 2021

u loves to see it

calzino, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:14 (three months ago) link

Lol was just coming here for this

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:19 (three months ago) link

will this affect her glittering Fleet Street career? The signs are... it won't.

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:23 (three months ago) link

would be funny if she could be made to retract all the other terrible things she's written in the same style, I do note that her anti-woke book is due to be published again though.

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:32 (three months ago) link

the most normal paper on normal island

At the time, when Julie Burchill was sending me abusive and defamatory tweets, I tried to contact her editor Allister Heath at the Sunday Telegraph both on Twitter and via email.

He never replied.

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) March 16, 2021

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:53 (three months ago) link

God, Allister Heath, that guy is a horror.

Woke For Luck (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:56 (three months ago) link

weird how these things just keep happening to Julie through no fault of her own

Amazing 48hrs for Julie Burchill. pic.twitter.com/i26rHCiEmy

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) March 17, 2021

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:32 (three months ago) link

can't wait for the book about the book

calzino, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:46 (three months ago) link

still haven't got over hearing Julie's weird voice tbh

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:51 (three months ago) link

wouldn't be a good "narrated by author" option for audible

calzino, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:54 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Not a journo more of a twitter grifter being utterly deranged

A very lovely man and a brilliant journalist.

— nicole lampert (@nicolelampert) May 8, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 May 2021 13:47 (one month ago) link

astonishing that a published obituary or various commentators on twitter would omit to mention that his "lovely guy" murdered his wife

calzino, Monday, 10 May 2021 13:51 (one month ago) link

He was a kind man though and he murdered his wife out of kindness - how could she have wished to live without him after his subsequent suicide (which he failed to accomplish at six times of trying)? Good thing they didn't have children! They'd have been murdered too. What a vile fucking misogynist, as is everyone tweeting about what a wonderful fella he was.

I'm not eating that foreign muck *pulls face* (Matt #2), Monday, 10 May 2021 13:52 (one month ago) link

She’s definitely a journo for the Mail but ISTG spends most of her time on FB journo groups pretending she’s not part of Gnasher.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 10 May 2021 13:55 (one month ago) link

Very sad news. I had the pleasure to work alongside John as he made the world worse to enrich an awful Australian billionaire. I remember him once joking at the Wapping St canteen: “this reminds me of that time I held my wife’s head under water until she died”

— The Magician’s Breakfast (@MagiciansDinner) May 9, 2021

Neil S, Monday, 10 May 2021 14:15 (one month ago) link

One of the replies to that gives you the warning message: "The following media includes potentially sensitive content." It's a gif of a black football player saying something innocuous. Keep on, Twitter.

I'm not eating that foreign muck *pulls face* (Matt #2), Monday, 10 May 2021 14:18 (one month ago) link

I had no idea who you were talking about so had to google - I wasn't going to look at either of those tweets - and wtf?!?! If nothing else it shows why Boris Johnson's serial infidelities and fathering of children willy nilly is no biggie to these cunts.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Monday, 10 May 2021 14:54 (one month ago) link

Yeah everyone above otm, it’s so awful that I saw Jeet Heer pick it up because the rationale is just off the charts

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 10 May 2021 15:01 (one month ago) link


sharon needham
@sharonneedham19
May 8
What a lovely, sensitive tribute you have written to this man. As he helped a lot of young hacks do u fancy following in his footsteps and helping me???

john sturgis
@sturgios
May 8
Nice try! Maybe on another day.

nashwan, Monday, 10 May 2021 15:08 (one month ago) link

tbh, the problem is less that they would show kindness, empathy and a belief in rehabilitation in relation to someone they knew, it’s that they would actively deny and work against even a fraction of a percentage of the same being shown to anyone they don’t.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 10 May 2021 16:11 (one month ago) link

mic wright's piece good on this:

https://brokenbottleboy.substack.com/p/the-suns-killer-obit-fleet-streets

Fizzles, Monday, 10 May 2021 17:13 (one month ago) link

I have always maintained that Mathew Parris is the absolute worst of this group of terrible people.

This is disgusting and just the latest example of The Times attacking GRT people — a minority who are never given a voice in the national press and are endlessly vilified. pic.twitter.com/hHOuIkr77i

— Mic Wright 🏳️‍🌈🌋🏴‍☠️ (@brokenbottleboy) May 15, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:04 (one month ago) link

didn't he grow up in Southern Rhodesia? Vile man. There probably were identical articles in that 30's party's house newspaper

calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:12 (one month ago) link

he's very polite though

calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:22 (one month ago) link

I find his "polite reasonable sensible thinker" shtick deeply fucking sinister.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:29 (one month ago) link

BRWP just love telling you things have "gone too far" when what they mean is someone disagrees with them.

remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:42 (one month ago) link

It's time we stopped pandering to commentators. Indulging those who claim to be journalists by giving them designated sites and verified account status has gone too far.

I was born anxious, here's how to do it. (ledge), Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:57 (one month ago) link

you get some horrific guest/nominee combinations with this creep on Great Lives, but lol I still listen to it. I can't remember if the true nadir was Timothy Mallet doing Richard The Lionheart or Al Murry choosing Monty.

calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:23 (one month ago) link

Woke Soubz says this piece is spot on, what exactly was "woke" about her? That she was friends with Chuka maybe.

calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:28 (one month ago) link

I cannot listen to a minute of Great Lives, it judt seems like an exercise in MP setting himself up as an arbiter of worthiness, second-worst thing on R4 after The Moral Maze.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:31 (one month ago) link

I have always maintained that Mathew Parris is the absolute worst of this group of terrible people.

OTM.

Are Animated Dads Getting Hotter? (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:38 (one month ago) link

I feel quite attacked when one of my heroes is featured on GL, but yet still I listen and know it isn't doing me any good!

calzino, Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:39 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

@michaelrosenyes The Tory Party has been a party of the left since it adopted Blairism under Cameron. One day you might get it. https://t.co/Ll2UjvqKT4

— Peter Hitchens (@ClarkeMicah) May 30, 2021

Hitchens is having a heated discussion with Michael Rosen!

calzino, Sunday, 30 May 2021 20:59 (three weeks ago) link

his completely addled version of recent history includes: that Blair was a Eurocommunist, so was Cameron and the BBC amongst many other British institutions has been infiltrated by the left. Some proof of this is that the BBC don't often invite him back these days.

calzino, Sunday, 30 May 2021 21:07 (three weeks ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3XnEdaXoAEn0rz?format=jpg&name=large

cancelled again, too racist even for the Torygraph.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:10 (two weeks ago) link

still trying to edgelord in your sixties - that is beyond tragic.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:21 (two weeks ago) link

lol, jfc at both of those. It's such a shame cancel culture never fucking sticks.

emil.y, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:30 (two weeks ago) link

oh she'll still get plenty of work in the UK media. It's slightly surprisingly that the Torygraph actually have a line on racism that you can't cross, probably a difficult line to define but it's obv there!

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:39 (two weeks ago) link

you've got to do polite racism like Parris does.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 15:41 (two weeks ago) link

you can do all the racism you like in the telegraph but you can't say that a ROYAL baby named after HER MAJESTY and PRINCESS DIANA OF ALL OUR HEARTS should instead be named "Georgina Floydina" - she should have saved her shit fucking joke for the baby of a musician or an actor, her editor would have loved it.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

she probably thought it was open

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:28 (two weeks ago) link

season (that fucking couple) and no rules applied.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 16:29 (two weeks ago) link


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