British Right-Wing Pundits

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There seems to be lots of threads about US right wing pundits but a cursory search, and searchs for "richard littlejohn" and "melanie phillips" don't bring up much of interest, so erm who are the big players? Littlejohn, Phillips, Simon Heffer? Why don't they have as big "voices" as their American counterparts? How do they differ? Do we haves over here a LIBERAL ELITE keeping them down?

erm search / destroy if you want...

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

And then there's Peter Hitchens

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

People forget Clarkson, the man is probably by a fair distance Britain's most "powerful" journalist (and he came up through journo college and the local newspapers like you're meant to as well).

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sure The Lex will be along to defend Phillips in a bit.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Why? Does she like Paris Hilton too?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

From a hack standpoint, watching Littlejohn try and alter his rhetoric since moving from The Sun to the Mail has been pretty fascinating. He doesn't fit in at the mail, it's like watching some scally squeezed into a Matalan suit for a court appearance. He does his best work as the White Van Man spokesperson, not for people who suffer heart attacks every time the house price market changes slightly. More builder's tea than Whittards.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:54 (sixteen years ago) link

what does Garry Bushell do now he's apparently no longer a TV critic?

Why don't they have as big "voices" as their American counterparts?

they literally have less reach? not as big a field to operate in? the media is 'bigger' in the US?

blueski, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Simon Heffer is too much of a hilarious cartoon villain to be properly annoying

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway, could yr Bill O'Reillies or yr Anne Coulters drop gems like this?

Let's get the caveat out of the way from the off. The five women murdered in Ipswich were tragic, lost souls who met a grisly end. I sincerely hope whoever killed them is caught, charged and convicted.

No one with a shred of humanity would wish upon them their ghastly lives and horrible deaths. But Mother Teresa, they weren't.

And I know this might sound frightfully callous in the current hysterical, emotional climate, but we're not all guilty.

We do not share in the responsibility for either their grubby little existences or their murders. Society isn't to blame.

It might not be fashionable, or even acceptable in some quarters, to say so, but in their chosen field of "work'=", death by strangulation is an occupational hazard.

That doesn't make it justifiable homicide, but in the scheme of things the deaths of these five women is no great loss.

They weren't going to discover a cure for cancer or embark on missionary work in Darfur. The only kind of missionary position they undertook was in the back seat of a car.

Of course their friends and families are grieving. That's what friends and families do. But they should also be asking themselves if there was anything they could have done to prevent what happened.

If you discovered your daughter had gone on the game to feed her heroin habit, wouldn't you move heaven and earth to get her off it?

Frankly, I'm tired of the lame excuses about how they all fell victim to ruthless pimps who plied them with drugs. These women were on the streets because they wanted to be.

We are all capable of free will. At any time, one or all of them could have sought help from the police, or the church, or a charity, or a government agency specifically established to deal with heroin addicts. They chose not to.

The tortuous twistings of the sisterhood over the past week have been a joy to behold. The 30-yearold Spare Rib T-shirts have been brought out of mothballs and we've been treated to the All Men Are Bastards/Rapists/Murderers mantra from assorted Glendas who ought to be old enough to know better.

We've heard the well-rehearsed arguments for legalised and regulated prostitution, as if we were living under the Taliban. The fact is, we've already got de facto legal brothels on every High Street.

They're call saunas or massage parlours.

As I remarked when the Labour MP Joe Ashton was once caught in a Siamese "sauna" in Northampton, he must have been the only man in Britain ever to go to a massage parlour for a massage. It doesn't get much more glamorous than that.

These five women were on the streets because even the filthiest, most disreputable back-alley "sauna" above a kebab shop wouldn't give them house room.

The men who used them were either too mean to fork out whatever a massage parlour charges, or simply weren't fussy. Some men are actually turned on by disgusting, drug-addled street whores. Where there's demand, there'll always be supply.

This wasn't a case of women going on the game to put bread on the table, or to look after their "babies". That's what the welfare state is for. They did it for drugs.

The gormless Guardianistas simply refuse to confront this blindingly obvious reality. They would rather deify celebrity druggies such as Kate Moss and Will Self than face the truth that hard drugs wreck lives.

What I find most objectionable about all this is the attempt to make us all feel responsible for the murders. There is a nasty whiff of Lady Di about the enforced mood of mourning, with even the Old Bill coming across like hand-wringing archbishops.

At Ipswich Town's home game on Saturday, there was a minute's silence. We were supposed to believe that this was a true reflection of the community's sympathy.

I don't buy it. Most people went along with it in the spirit of emotional correctness and through fear of getting their heads kicked in if they didn't.

There was only one thing missing, but don't bet against it.

When Blair gets back from saving the Middle East, don't be surprised if he turns up at the funeral of one of these unfortunate women to deliver a lip-trembling, tear-stained eulogy: "She was the People's Prostitute".

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe difference between US "what the government is doing is right but it is being hampered by imaginary lefty conspiracy" vs UK's more marginalised "everything everyone does is wrong and gives you cancer, whatever happened to the good old days wahhh"

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:59 (sixteen years ago) link

old people: who did the mail / sun tilt against during the thatcher years? the oppositon?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The unions

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Looney Left, Militant up in Liverpool, Red Ken down in London. "THEY'RE BANNING OUR KIDS FROM SINGING "BAA BAA BLACK SHEEP"" political correctness gone mad stuff.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

And, yeah, Scargill obviously.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Ginger lefties

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Argies

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link

jon gaunt

djmartian, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

And blacks.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Rightwing pundits don't have quite the sway in the UK they have in the U.S. because the whole political compass is skewed a little more to the left in Britain. The UK doesn't have that gigantic Jesus-and-gun-loving constituency that exists in the U.S.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

because the whole political compass is skewed a little more to the left in Britain

What?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:12 (sixteen years ago) link

You heard me.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

The whole political compass = right of centre main parties + "extremist crackpots"

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"Little" being the operative word

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link

skewed towards the US left, i.e. the right by any 20th century standard.

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Talking of crackpots, get a read of the Scottish Christian Party manifesto:

9. Prisons
The Scottish Christian Party believes that the much needed extra prison
capacity should be purchased from developing countries for the purpose
of catering for Scotland’s medium Security Prisons. This should take the
form of building state of the art prison facilities in developing countries
that wish to host Scottish Prisons.
Advantages would include:
1. Less overcrowded prisons, cheaper costs and greater efficiency
2. More resources at home to look after our worst offenders properly
3. More economic trade instead of aid handouts to developing
countries
4. Raising prison standards in developing countries by example and
the provision of expertise.

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link

They say this is no different to setting up call centres abroad.

onimo, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link

'by any 20th century standard'

what now?

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

do they have less sway cos the most emotive right / left battles have been "won"? ie the unions, the acceptability of prejudice? i think they are "learning" from the american's clarkson's whole schtick is provication isn't it, look how angry i can make these daft eco-nuts!

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Between 1980 and the present the whole political spectrum in the western world has been drifting rightwards back into liberalism (with certain conservative tendencies)

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link

british journalism is more frivolous and clubbable than US journalism. all UK hacks know each other. this probably isn't so much the case in the states.

yes ed i know. but the idea that liberalism is the worst the 20th century right has to offer is batshit insane. as is the idea that welfare capitalism was some kind of 'left'. even without factoring in the fact that at the start of the century liberalism was kind of... left-wing.

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:24 (sixteen years ago) link

outsourcing prisons to eastern european countries in the EC - who will be the first New Labour or Tories?

djmartian, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Send 'em all to Botany Bay.

I think for historical reasons the U.S. has this strong libertarian streak (ie right to bear arms etc.) coupled with a strong religious/puritan streak. Put the two together and they coelesce into a very strong, very dynamic right-wing culture that simply doesn't exist in the UK. And that's why rightwing pundits don't have so much sway. I mean David Cameron would be quite a bit to the left of most Democrat candidates.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean David Cameron would be quite a bit to the left of most Democrat candidates.

Not where it matters he isn't

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Rightwing pundits have an absolute fuckload of sway, party politics is an irrelevence here. Ask White Van Man what he thinks about asylum seekers.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I would say that liberalism was progressive not left- wing per say. And whether or not you think 'welfare capitalism' is of the left or not, the centre is to the right of even that now.

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost to Tom D.

Where it matters? Well for a start I'm guessing Cameron's not going to dismantle the NHS in any fundamental way. Can you imagine a serious Democrat candidate proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare?

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

british reactionary right is xenophobic and defensive rather than on constant attack like the americans?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Where it matters? Well for a start I'm guessing Cameron's not going to dismantle the NHS in any fundamental way. Can you imagine a serious Democrat candidate proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare?

We'll see how good that guess is when he wins the next election. Cameron isn't proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare either, we've already got it. Cameron is only "radical" when it comes to wearing a wind turbine on your head or cycling backwards on a bicycle made entirely of radishes

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

You sure you're not mixing up David Cameron with John Otway?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

And Wild Willie Whitelaw?

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

upthread are you dudes talking economic or social liberalism? or both?

acrobat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

both

Ed, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost

Sure, Cameron didn't come up with free healthcare! But the political climate is such that he'd have a hard time getting rid of it. Which underlines my point about the political background being skewed more leftwards in the UK, despite years of Thatcher/Blair.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

"Cameron isn't proposing universal, free-at-the-point-of-service healthcare either, we've already got it."

well except for things involving teeth or eyes, ie the only two things i ever go in for...

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

just going to say

Alan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

We'll see how hard a time he has getting rid of it, it'll be less hard than you think once he persuades the middle classes it's in their interest (xxpost)

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, I think if it were politically possible to get rid of the NHS, it would have already been done. Anyway, doesn't Cameron have a disabled kid or something. He probably uses the NHS more than the average Tory.

underpants of the gods, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

They are getting rid of it already, piece by piece

Tom D., Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

um guys the nhs is already on the way out...

xpost!

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

The lesson is, cancel comedy

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2023 14:29 (four months ago) link

Right Said Fred still on the anti-vaxx thing I'm assuming? Those types get sadder every day, everyone else has moved on...

― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:36 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

they are now on traffic reduction schemes... which is even more WTF?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2023/jan/10/why-do-traffic-reduction-schemes-attract-so-many-conspiracy-theories

A march against the traffic filters plan took place on Sunday in Oxford under the banner of Not Our Future, a new group led by 80s pop duo turned anti-vaxxers Right Said Fred

my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:32 (four months ago) link

A woman in my work, who seems prone to conspiracy theories, was going on about this thing in Oxford too. It's all about how "they" are now using the false climate emergency to control us.

A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:43 (four months ago) link

Piers Corbyn is involved. Inevitably.

A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:44 (four months ago) link

it's the latest thing for right-wing psychos to get involved in apparently, as the article mentions Oxford councillors have been getting death threats as a rsult of the conspiracy theories about the traffic reduction scheme there. Where I live in Haringey it seems to be the sole issue that Conservative councillors campaign on- the right to drive your car wherever you damn well like, regardless of the consequences.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:19 (four months ago) link

of course it should be said that local government may not always proceed by de jure conspiracy but i've little sympathy for local councillors protesting that any benefits that accrue to them thru their jobs are purely accidental and unwelcome

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:18 (four months ago) link

and the tone of some of that Graun article deliberately plays to the evasive distinction

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:19 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

A snapshot of the current obsessions of Daily Telegraph columnists.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture-wars/

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:02 (four months ago) link

... and that's just this month's batch.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 30 January 2023 16:03 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Probably behind a paywall but the headline should suffice.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/09/scotland-has-become-deeply-sinister-country/

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 11:36 (two months ago) link

what with the wulvers and the loch ness monster

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 10 March 2023 11:37 (two months ago) link

become?

giant bat fucker (gyac), Friday, 10 March 2023 11:38 (two months ago) link

Article written by useless Blairite Scottish Labour cunt cum British Right-Wing Pundit Tom Harris who is still boohoing about losing his seat to the SNP.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 11:41 (two months ago) link

(xp) LOL, true tho.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 11:42 (two months ago) link

cunt cum

striking imagery, etc

Very Sad 2 Second ago in Chicago (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 10 March 2023 14:50 (two months ago) link

The expression ‘turbo cancer’ has entered common parlance since the rollout of the vaccine, so whilst its poss that cancers r not ‘caused’ by the vaccine they maybe exacerbated by it.

The expression ‘turbo cancer’ has entered common parlance since the rollout of the vaccine, so whilst its poss that cancers r not ‘caused’ by the vaccine they maybe exacerbated by it. @thatsnotmine125 @TheFreds https://t.co/UdCJnVHAtq

— Richard Fairbrass (@RealFairbrass) March 20, 2023

soref, Monday, 20 March 2023 13:59 (two months ago) link

The expression "wasteman" has entered common parlance in the last 20 years so it's possible that there are men who are literally made of waste

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2023 14:04 (two months ago) link

I really am surprised as how disappointed I've been with right said fred of all people over the last 7 years

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 20 March 2023 14:57 (two months ago) link

Don't Talk Just Kiss

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2023 15:03 (two months ago) link

Refreshing that nearly all of the replies to that tweet are rightly ridiculing him

groovypanda, Monday, 20 March 2023 15:37 (two months ago) link

I've come to the conclusion that Allister Heath and Ross Clark are the two most batshit columnists at the Daily Telegraph - amongst fierce competition it must be saud. This little pearl is from the latter's column on how "Suella Braverman could be the most successful home secretary in recent history":

... deep within the attacks on her and the Government’s Illegal Migration Bill lies the assumption that Rwandans are incapable of providing a safe, civilised environment in which to process asylum applications and a home where genuine refugees can rebuild their lives. True, Rwanda experienced a genocide within living memory...

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:30 (two months ago) link

turbo wasteman

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:33 (two months ago) link

Almost as if there's a metric for saying the louder you like the more effective the outcome

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 March 2023 16:59 (two months ago) link

xp v steve coogan municipal swimming pool security vibes there

oscar bravo, Monday, 20 March 2023 20:55 (two months ago) link

I found the guy that sketch was based on recently, he was one of the bird curators at London Zoo in Molly Dineen's The Ark documentary. Had to be based on him, there's no way he couldn't have been. Anyway yeah

imago, Monday, 20 March 2023 22:42 (two months ago) link

I'm always a bit intrigued at some of the absurd names of journalists on the Telegraph-Spectator spectrum. I mean, Sophia Money-Coutts - it's like a parody name that even Private Eye would consider too obvious. And then I ventured across a piece on 'woke' in the Spectator by a journalist named Panda La Terriere. Panda La Terriere, for God's sake! I googled her, she's apparently the great-granddaughter of Evelyn Waugh, so keeping the right-wing bigotry all in the family I guess. And no surprise, Money-Coutts is indeed a member of the Coutts banking dynasty.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 01:57 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Sunday Times culture section in a mess.

pic.twitter.com/jaRYqNPJv1

— Judy Blume (@judyblume) April 16, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 April 2023 12:48 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

In a Spectator interview published today, historian David Starkey offers a novel take on the "do you have any black friends?" question 🥴 pic.twitter.com/XWsfPsrQXg

— Sunny Hundal (@sunny_hundal) May 5, 2023

groovypanda, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:04 (one month ago) link

"not openly racist to uber drivers" is the best defense he can muster, yes this sounds about right.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 May 2023 16:26 (one month ago) link

Spectator journalist Taki Theodoracopulos to face trial for alleged attempted rape in 2009 https://t.co/K1i9EzipYM

— The Guardian (@guardian) May 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:09 (four weeks ago) link

good

contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:12 (four weeks ago) link

Not sure he classes as a pundit but this is straight up hilarious

Most of you have never shadow-boxed 10 rounds in a 200-degree sauna while listening to Tyrese as your workout music.

Then you have the audacity to wonder why you don’t get any pussy. pic.twitter.com/wfHtfXOS3G

— Andrew Tate (@Cobratate) May 13, 2023

groovypanda, Saturday, 13 May 2023 18:14 (three weeks ago) link

"I am a good tipper"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 13 May 2023 18:16 (three weeks ago) link

I've said before that this guy is insane but this guy is insane.

In a world where followers of Gramsci have seized control of virtually all institutions, winning elections or referenda isn’t enough. The blob must be defeated.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/24/woke-blobs-final-triumph-near/

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 10:23 (two weeks ago) link

reminded me of this all-timer which he at least hasn't deleted (probably can't work out how)

Kwasi Kwarteng's Budget is a moment in history that will radically transform Britain https://t.co/w20tgpctDE

— Allister Heath (@AllisterHeath) September 23, 2022

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 25 May 2023 10:42 (two weeks ago) link

what's his take on gramsci? I assume he thinks mussolini was right but I thought all the intellectual right wingers wanted to be good gramscians these days. is that what's going on here or has he just become part of the pantheon of evil alongside hegel and adorno and other unlikely pioneers of wokeness?

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:07 (two weeks ago) link

I believe Gramsci's concept of hegemony - which opens up marxism to analysing cultural aspects of society as well as economics* - is useful for right wingers to push their narrative of "cultural marxism" so it makes sense he'd be a figure of hate.

*I have no idea if this is correct but I think it's the rationale

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:18 (two weeks ago) link

has he just become part of the pantheon of evil alongside hegel and adorno and other unlikely pioneers of wokeness?

Bingo.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:20 (two weeks ago) link

well that's boring. just more of the same old conspiracy mush like they turned hegel's dialectic into (which is something conservatives who really did care about the western philosophical tradition could actually work with, or through, or however it is)

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 11:49 (two weeks ago) link

We're talking hacks, not people who even pretend to have ideas

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:00 (two weeks ago) link

Even they couldn't deny Weltgeist is with China now anyway

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:11 (two weeks ago) link

Labour parliamentary candidate says this

The world is not listening.

Sadly, the international community are captured by Militant far left campaign groups who have through bad policy, inflicted on the people of Yemen a permanent state of poverty of war.

Successive UN Special Envoys have tragically all failed #Yemen. https://t.co/d0e6UymrmQ

— Graham Jones xMP (@GrahamJones_MP) May 25, 2023

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:15 (two weeks ago) link

trolling

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:16 (two weeks ago) link

or gaslighting, or dancing on graves, or something

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:19 (two weeks ago) link

at least it's not something you say intending to convince anyone, it's like a flex

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:21 (two weeks ago) link

A form of political gaslighting like the "woke left blob elites" stuff, intended to create a sense of constant threat to real western values

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 12:25 (two weeks ago) link

re gramsci: the US wingnut thesis -- as developed by william s. lind and others, re "cultural marxism" etc -- is that the blob has developed the techniques of saul alinsky, a chicago-based "community organiser" who wrote abt gramsci in the 60s or 70s (largely misunderstanding him IMO but that's by the bye), effecting the fabled "long march through the institutions" (marcuse quoting mao? who tf knows) which e.g. delivered obama as president

a small but growing number of uk wingnuts are these days very plugged into this circuit (hence this dweeb wetting himself abt meatball ron)

is it trolling? i mean it's annoying bcz shite being pumped into the plumbing is annoying, but there's a good case these ppl are by now simply talking to one another

mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:14 (two weeks ago) link

This guy is definitely not trolling he is just a swivel eyed zealot.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:19 (two weeks ago) link

There's no clear distinction between repeating your narrative and "belief" imo. This is rhetoric not philosophy

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:23 (two weeks ago) link


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