1980's Oscar Nominees

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We should poll 1980 next (or did we? Can't check). It's got one of the few totally respectable nominees.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, March 10, 2014 9:51 AM (2 weeks ago)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Raging Bull, Irwin Winkler & Robert Chartoff (United Artists) 13
The Elephant Man, Jonathan Sanger (Paramount/Brooksfilms) 10
Ordinary People, Ronald L. Schwary (Paramount) 6
Coal Miner's Daughter, Bernard Schwartz (Universal) 0
Tess, Claude Berri & Timothy Burrill (Renn Productions/Timothy Burrill Productions) 0


Eric H., Friday, 28 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Previous Oscar category polls:

Picture 1939: 1939's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1940: 1940's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1962: 1962's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1967: 1967's Oscar Nominees (inspired by "Pictures at a Revolution")
Picture 1974: 1974's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1975: 1975's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1976: 1976 Oscar Nominees
Picture 1979: 1979's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1982: 1982's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1989: 1989's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1990: 1990's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1991: 1991's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1993: 1993's Best Picture Oscar Nominees
Picture 1994: 1994's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1995: 1995's Oscar Nominees
Picture 1997: http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=76886
Picture 1998: 1998's Oscar Nominees
Picture 2005: 2005's Oscar Nominees
Picture 2007: 2007's Oscar Nominees
Picture 2012: 2012's Oscar Nominees
Picture 2013: 2013's Oscar Nominees
Worst Picture 80s: WORST of the Best Picture Oscar Noms (Only The '80s Edition)

Actress 1950: 1950 Best Actress Nominees
Actress 1992: Best Actress Nominees - 1992
Actress 1993: 1993's Best Actress Oscar Nominees
Actress 1996: 1996's Best Actress Oscar Nominees
Actress Overall 1990s: BEST of the Best Actress Oscar Noms (Only The '90s Edition)

Actor 1982: 1982's Best Actor Oscar Nominees
Actor 1997: 1997 Best Actor Oscar Winners
Actor Overall 1990s: BEST of the Best Actor Oscar Noms (Only The '90s Edition)

Supporting Actress 1976: 1976's Best Supporting Actress Oscar Nominees

Song 2011: Oscar-nominated "Best Original Song" 2012

Eric H., Friday, 28 March 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Pretty strong field--stronger than '79's, I bet. You know where my vote will go; liked Coal Miner's Daughter a lot at the time; don't remember The Elephant Man that well, but I know it's held in high regard by some; Ordinary People okay, not a favourite; I've never seen Tess. Dressed to Kill would have been a bold nomination.

clemenza, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

I <3 Elizabeth McGovern

Eric H., Friday, 28 March 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

The Elephant Man. Never saw the actual winner.

Simon H., Friday, 28 March 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

Hot - Kinsky vs. McGovern

That's So (Eazy), Friday, 28 March 2014 19:07 (ten years ago) link

Reminding u that anyone who doesnt vote Raging Bull SUCKS BIG, FAT, ELEPHANT... MAN.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 March 2014 19:09 (ten years ago) link

Good lineup, winners on top:

Best Director:
Robert Redford – Ordinary People
David Lynch – The Elephant Man
Martin Scorsese – Raging Bull
Richard Rush – The Stunt Man
Roman Polanski – Tess

best Actor:
Robert De Niro – Raging Bull as Jake LaMotta
Robert Duvall – The Great Santini
John Hurt – The Elephant Man
Jack Lemmon – Tribute
Peter O'Toole – The Stunt Man

Best Actress:
Sissy Spacek – Coal Miner's Daughter as Loretta Lynn
Ellen Burstyn – Resurrection
Goldie Hawn – Private Benjamin
Mary Tyler Moore – Ordinary People
Gena Rowlands – Gloria

Best Sup Actor:
Timothy Hutton – Ordinary People as Conrad Jarrett
Judd Hirsch – Ordinary People
Michael O'Keefe – The Great Santini
Joe Pesci – Raging Bull
Jason Robards - Melvin and Howard

Best Sup Actress:
Mary Steenburgen – Melvin and Howard as Lynda Dummar
Eileen Brennan – Private Benjamin
Eva Le Gallienne – Resurrection
Cathy Moriarty – Raging Bull
Diana Scarwid – Inside Moves

That's So (Eazy), Friday, 28 March 2014 19:10 (ten years ago) link

Forgot about Melvin and Howard; that's my easy #2. (I've still never seen The Stunt Man.)

clemenza, Friday, 28 March 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link

voted elephant man, my favorite lynch. like tess and ordinary people, haven't seen coal miner's daughter. i find raging bull pretty tedious.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 28 March 2014 19:15 (ten years ago) link

Best Actress:
Sissy Spacek – Coal Miner's Daughter as Loretta Lynn
Ellen Burstyn – Resurrection
Goldie Hawn – Private Benjamin
Mary Tyler Moore – Ordinary People
Gena Rowlands – Gloria

I really really like this set.

Eric H., Friday, 28 March 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

Three-way tie for first here:

Best Song
"Fame" from Fame – Music by Michael Gore, Lyric by Dean Pitchford
"9 to 5" from 9 to 5 – Music and Lyric by Dolly Parton
"On the Road Again" from Honeysuckle Rose – Music and Lyric by Willie Nelson
"Out Here on My Own" from Fame – Music by Michael Gore; Lyric by Lesley Gore
"People Alone" from The Competition – Music by Lalo Schifrin; Lyric by Wilbur Jennings

Also, until I saw the Original Score nominees, forgot that 1980 had Altered States, too.

That's So (Eazy), Friday, 28 March 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link

God, The Competition is so bad. The worst thing either Amy Irving or Sergei Prokofiev have ever been associated with.

Eric H., Friday, 28 March 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link

wd've voted Mon Oncle d'Amerique

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 March 2014 21:51 (ten years ago) link

One of the better lineups. Voted for The Elephant Man. My #2 would be Ordinary People, followed by Coal Miner's Daugher and Tess. Don't at all care for RB, sorry.

Is Tess the least discussed of Polanski's movies? He gets the spirit of Hardy right.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 March 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link

Nah, most of Polanski's subsequent work is even less discussed. Pirates, anyone?

Interior. Ibiza Bar (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 28 March 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link

well, yeah

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 March 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link

Really wish my library had Tess because from what I've read it seems like it'd be a legit challenger to Raging Bull. Otherwise, this might be a slightly better selection than many years' but a list filled with biopics, disability, literary adaptations and upper middle class angst still strikes me as incredibly Oscar-y.

Non-nominated faves: The Shining, My Bodyguard, Dressed to Kill

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Saturday, 29 March 2014 01:56 (ten years ago) link

I remember an anecdote in Steven Bach's Final Cut that I liked a lot. As I remember it, Bach was in the middle of all his Heaven's Gate turmoil when Scorsese finished Raging Bull, which had been completed quietly and out of view of all the executives. After the studio screening, Bach went up to Scorsese and said, "Mr. Scorsese, you are an artist"--it was like a glimmer of perfection in the midst of chaos.

(Trying to say something nice about Raging Bull; doesn't seem to be well liked around here.)

clemenza, Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:19 (ten years ago) link

a list filled with biopics, disability, literary adaptations and upper middle class angst still strikes me as incredibly Oscar-y.

yep

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link

Resurrection still unavailable on DVD.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link

Love it or hate it, Raging Bull isn't even remotely Oscar-y. And it's a biopic like The Passion of Joan of Arc is a biopic.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link

Fair enough and probably true. More so than any of the other noms that year, that is probably the one that critical influenced forced into the top 5 (see also, Goodfellas).

I bought a copy of Final Cut years ago at a used bookstore in Toronto, but have still never read it. Another one for my between-semesters reading list.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link

RB is an attempt to transform a boxing picture (Champion, The Champ, Body and Soul, Rocky) into art. That's not criticism: it's Scorsese's intention.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

I flinched at biopic (no argument that it's a boxing picture...), but if I step back a bit, yes, it's got the basic outline of a biopic. It proceeds in linear fashion, and there are the requisite stops along the way--early promise, setbacks, triumph, downfall. Stone's Nixon is probably more unconventional in how it tells its story.

But it does so much than check boxes along the way. Things like the color home-movie sequence, the Cavalleria Rusticana opening, did-you-fuck-my-wife?, the frame-by-frame construction of the fight sequences--at a certain point, I think its artistry elevates it somewhere else. But, you know, that's if you love it and are affected by it. If not, I'm sure it's just a pretentious biopic.

clemenza, Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:04 (ten years ago) link

"so much more"

clemenza, Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link

Resurrection still unavailable on DVD

It's on YT tho. One of those movies whose reputation seemed far greater than the glorified TV movie it turned out to be. But Burstyn is, as always, sheerly professional.

Eric H., Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link

there's a Final Cut docu too which is great and on You Tube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdcRiPLp4oU

piscesx, Saturday, 29 March 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link

You didn't need the "but," E.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 March 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link

Goodfellas was at least a medium popular hit, no? Raging Bull flopped at the b.o.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:07 (ten years ago) link

RB is much more like a mix of Bresson/Kazan than, i dunno, Somebody Up There Hates Me.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:08 (ten years ago) link

def even if we can't swap Melvin & Howard for CMD (which is good but conventional), this is one of the better BP lineups.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:12 (ten years ago) link

Checking the box office, I was surprised to learn CMD was a pretty big hit.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:15 (ten years ago) link

esp in country country. Haven't seen it in eons, i should again.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:17 (ten years ago) link

In Alternative Oscars, published in the early nineties and an essential text for young me, the author awards Burstyn the Best Actress trophy because he gives it to Spacek for Carrie and the next year's Raggedy Man (a good little movie btw).

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:23 (ten years ago) link

*Alternae

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i've seen that book, by Danny Peary (who played the conference head in Computer Chess).

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:25 (ten years ago) link

He was really great in that movie.

Eric H., Sunday, 30 March 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link

He came to Toronto a couple of years ago to introduce his documentary on film critics. Interesting Q&A, as I remember it. Doesn't like Kael much.

clemenza, Monday, 31 March 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link

I remember his best actor for 1963 is Jerry Lewis.

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 March 2014 04:02 (ten years ago) link

That doesn't narrow the field down much these days.

Eric H., Monday, 31 March 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link

Not enough discussion of french toast being passive-aggressively jammed down the drain itt

Eric H., Monday, 31 March 2014 04:19 (ten years ago) link

Or of Conrad swimming.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 March 2014 10:48 (ten years ago) link

just no Judd Hirsch plz

even Robin Williams woulda been better

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 March 2014 10:59 (ten years ago) link

Best Foreign Language film (winner first)

Moscow Does Not Belive in Tears (Menshov, USSR)
Confidence (Szabó, Hungary)
Kagemusha (Kurosawa, Japan)
The Last Metro (Truffaut, France)
The Nest (de Armiñán, Spain)

I've only seen The Last Metro and that was in high school. Apart from that and Kagemusha, anything else worth watching?

Frederik B, Monday, 31 March 2014 11:36 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS7s6YkVKEI

That's So (Eazy), Monday, 31 March 2014 12:21 (ten years ago) link

Always worth a look at the screenplay noms, too.

Original
Brubaker – Screenplay by W. D. Richter; Story by W. D. Richter and Arthur Ross
Fame – Christopher Gore
Melvin and Howard – Bo Goldman
Mon Oncle D'Amerique – Jean Gruault
Private Benjamin – Nancy Meyers, Charles Shyer and Harvey Miller

Adapted
Breaker Morant – Jonathan Hardy, David Stevens and Bruce Beresford
Coal Miner's Daughter – Tom Rickman
The Elephant Man – Christopher DeVore, Eric Bergren and David Lynch
Ordinary People – Alvin Sargent
The Stunt Man – Screenplay by Lawrence B. Marcus; Adaptation by Richard Rush

Eric H., Monday, 31 March 2014 13:13 (ten years ago) link

Four-part analysis of the sweaters of Ordinary People:

http://theyarnmonkey.blogspot.com/2007/12/ordinary-sweaters-yoke-collar.html

Josefa, Monday, 31 March 2014 14:13 (ten years ago) link

Yass on all of this look:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IuIKPL1UuTI/R1dtm96wlQI/AAAAAAAAAPY/g4gEBILwxYs/s320/OP_070.jpg

Eric H., Monday, 31 March 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

Donald Sweaterland.

You're all invited to the Burstyn retro in Brooklyn next month, with a 35mm print of Resurrection!

http://www.bam.org/film/2014/ellen-burstyn

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 March 2014 19:45 (ten years ago) link

Same Time, Next Queer.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 March 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link

I want that newspaper.

clemenza, Monday, 31 March 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link

There needs to be some network for collecting ridiculously obscure movie props. That way, you can get your Same Time, Next Year San Francisco Gazette and I could get my Goin' Down the Road Satie vinyl.

Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 00:03 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 10 April 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link

*sigh*

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 02:48 (ten years ago) link

oh c'mon, surely you expected this

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 03:46 (ten years ago) link

It was a sigh of contentment that it was that close.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 11:35 (ten years ago) link

like a nylon lemon peel

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 April 2014 11:50 (ten years ago) link

if you take the five directors' career oeuvres, Redford's is the worst

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 11:59 (ten years ago) link

Are you ignoring Scorsese the last fifteen years?

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 April 2014 12:00 (ten years ago) link

(Lynch got great around when Scorsese went into the toilet)

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 12:00 (ten years ago) link

making bad movies for 15 years doesn't erase 25 of good/great

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 12:01 (ten years ago) link

Scorsese's been uneven the entire time, with the peaks and valleys strewn in every direction.

My vote for Ordinary People had nothing to do with Redford.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 12:48 (ten years ago) link

just your long-aborning Elizabeth McGovern fantasies

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link

Let's have a great year. Let's have the best year of our whole lives, OK? We can, you know. This could be the best year ever.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link

adorable category fraud

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 15:23 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

I can't argue with Mary Steenburgen winning Best Supporting Actress this year, but not nominating Dyan Cannon for Honeysuckle Rose strikes me as a sizable oversight--she's excellent, even if I wish the script hadn't called for her to let Willie Nelson off the hook at the last second. Very much one of those early-'80s films (Melvin and Howard, Coal Miner's Daughter) that feels like a continuation of the '70s; except for a far-fetched sequence in Mexico with Nelson and Slim Pickens, quite liked it. I see that Amy Irving got a couple of those worst-awards for her performance. Silly--she's fine.

clemenza, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

Eileen Brennan – Private Benjamin
Eva Le Gallienne – Resurrection
Diana Scarwid – Inside Moves

Haven't seen any of these--could one of them have been bypassed to make room for Cannon?

clemenza, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

I watched Scarwid in both Mommie Dearest and Inside Moves within a short time frame around '83 or so, and remember thinking she was pretty good in the latter, not so much in the former. But I don't know if my opinions were worth much then or now.

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link


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