ILX’s Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2020

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As for whats missing im suprised Picard and Lower Decks have shown up but not Discovery? Maybe it'll be in the top 10 too?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 06:14 (three years ago) link

was banking on 'the last dance' being top 3.

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 08:18 (three years ago) link

Any love for I Hate Suzie (Sky Atlantic/HBO Max)? Just finished it and it knocked me flat.

The structure is quite unlike anything I've seen on TV recently, with most of the background exposition left until the last episode and every episode having a completely different emotional pitch, setting and characters (aside from the principals). Would have been my #2 had I managed to organise myself to vote in time.

Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 09:22 (three years ago) link

I nominated, but guessing I was also the only voter

every episode having a completely different emotional pitch

each ep is intended to sequentially map onto one of the supposed eight stages of grief btw

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 09:27 (three years ago) link

Oh dear

scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 09:28 (three years ago) link

Ive gone through three just imagining tbh

Was that b piper and all?

maybe four

scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 09:28 (three years ago) link

(hadn't noticed this was rolling out until just now. if Bangers and Cash isn't top 10 there's going to be a ruckus.)

koogs, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 09:43 (three years ago) link

Oh right, I feel bad about not voting now! Yes the stages of grief structure is a really fascinating way to frame the story. I loved that the Naomi character is secretly the hero, and the claustrophobic feeling of living in Suzie's head the whole time.

Definitely worth continuing if you've started it as it really builds into something cathartic and earned with each building block. Have a hard time picking my favourite episode - the one showing Suzie's chaotic family is devastating, the Comic-Con one is awkwardly hilarious, and the ending is perfectly executed.

Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 10:26 (three years ago) link

I also really enjoyed The Last Dance and have seen it in other year-end lists but barely even saw it mentioned on this site

Vinnie, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 10:28 (three years ago) link

That said, I don't think it'll make the top ten

Vinnie, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 10:28 (three years ago) link

Itll surely be top 3!

scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link

Was Talking Heads nominated?

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 11:51 (three years ago) link

(xpost) There was a big thread on The Last Dance on I Love Hoops.

The Last Dance: In Praise of One Lone Gold Hoop Earring

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 12:05 (three years ago) link

No song, last dance, sone jumping thru hoops

scampsite (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 12:10 (three years ago) link

Completely missed that thread!

Vinnie, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 13:04 (three years ago) link

By my count, The Boys is the fifth (Aggretsuko, Umbrella Academy, I Am Not Okay with This, Kingdom) and last of our 77 shows to be directly based on a comic book or webcomic, though signs point to that number increasing drastically in 2021. Garth Ennis and Darick Robertson's long-running comic series - detailing the adventures of a government-backed black ops group of chaotic-good super-powered superhero hunters monitoring and censuring the more technicolor-clad and publicly-beloved lawful-evil supergroups - is known for its sadistic humor, graphic ultraviolence, withering cynicism, explicit sex and Chris Claremont-level team dynamics. The show appears to follow suit.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

I dunno, man, it's really hard for me to imagine getting into anything Garth Ennis-related now that I'm no longer a teenager. To what extent does the show embody his baser impulses (i.e. tropes that someone in junior high would find awesome and edgy)?

The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

watched both seasons during the q, and season 2 was much sharper and more compelling than the first, which was too consciously “dark and gritty”

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

lol, I have images turned off but clicking on Moka's image kind of answers my question, I feel.

The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

The Boys really is top tier bingeable widescreen trash TV, with some surprisingly acute things to say about Celeb culture and modern elitism. I wouldn't be surprised if it finds itself the inheritor of Game of Throne's ratings in a few seasons' time.

To what extent does the show embody his baser impulses (i.e. tropes that someone in junior high would find awesome and edgy)?

It indulges those impulses with some regularity, but isn't governed by them.

chap, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link

Sex Education, the contemporary British-set and produced Netflix dramedy starring Gillian Anderson as a sex therapist and Asa Butterfield as her son, is by my count the fifth (We Are Who We Are, Never Have I Ever, I Am Not Okay with This, Big Mouth) and last show in the 77 with teenagers having sex at the crux of its story.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

My #1, one of the best shows in years and years. Genuinely surreal, delightfully freewheeling in presentation and execution. Also, S2 stepped it up a whole gear from the already great first season. The opener is one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen

imago, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

All the characters are great too, and there are so many awesomely bonkers conceits (the American high school in Britain, the only-two-teachers-and-guess-what, etc)

imago, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

tried the pilot of this and didnt care for it. stick with it then eh?

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link

You have to be ready for it to be...wrong, lol. Start with S2

imago, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link

Or the whole thing, knowing it gets better, ha

imago, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

It indulges those impulses with some regularity, but isn't governed by them.

― chap, Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:15 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is otm. the whole storyline with the deep in s2 does a pretty good job of walking this line (all those poor sea creatures haha)

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

boys was in my top 5. season 2 was at least 3x as good as season 1.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

by my count the fifth (We Are Who We Are, Never Have I Ever, I Am Not Okay with This, Big Mouth) and last show in the 77 with teenagers having sex at the crux of its story.

Normal People

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

^otm

imago, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

Maybe it's because I watched Sex Education first, but I feel like Never Have I Ever only got good once it moved away from truly belonging on that list

rob, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

couldn't tell ya why i didn't vote for sex ed season 2. probably because otis was totally insufferable the whole year (i know, for plot/character reasons, but still)

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

With the bloom of novelty off the Baby Yoda rose, The Mandalorian dug deeper into its fan service bag this year, providing jumping-off spots for a few new shows, an uncanny valley Luke Skywalker cameo, a revolving roster of guest stars, expensive looking CGI, some impressive set pieces and all the other obvious trimmings that this chambara inspired space-oater could carry. Mostly it held together... though two seasons in a row of the guy who never takes off his mask taking off his mask in the final episode is getting a little silly.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

Normal People
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo)

they're in their twenties!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

haven't seen normal people, but doesn't it start when they're in high school?

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

The book does, at least.

jaymc, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

the show does too

na (NA), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

lotta voters into teen sex and comic books, i for one am shocked

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

i may stand corrected here; the actors were in their twenties at least.
sure, throw it in the cuddle puddle if you wanna.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

Here’s me (slightly edited) from early January in the Netflix thread: My gf binged Queen's Gambit and I joined her cold for the last episode. I couldn't help thinking that part of the reason that this show caught the zeitgeist so squarely is that it represents an impossible and impossibly of-our-time fantasy: a flawed woman makes her way to the apex of her industry based on talent, merit, a strong support system and immense hard work and, on meeting the glass ceiling, is confronted by a group of gatekeeper men who treat her dismissively at first but then ultimately deferentially acknowledge everything she's done to get there and more or less apologize for not taking her seriously. I'm not sure I've ever seen a television story climax that way.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

lol Quillette - really?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link

frankly, i was unfamiliar with them. I thought that article made some interesting (if occasionally unwittingly so) points about how the masculine lineage of the hustler differs from this modern manifestation.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

throw it in the cuddle puddle

gross

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

Thought at first that Queen's Gambit was just kinda boilerplate time-killing prestige tv with v good performances but not a lot of heft. It gradually won me over, though, partly on the level that forks delineates. It may be fantasy to an extent but it's engaging to watch high-level competitors ultimately demonstrating kindness and respect towards those they've been trying to savagely destroy.

The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

Speaking of which, this recent NYT piece calls it ”the new nice television”: anti-cynical, reasonably low-stakes dramedy that presents good people being rewarded for their good efforts. That’s a little reductive when applied to Ted Lasso imo. It’s a program that absolutely looks insipid on first glance but, once you’ve knocked out the first episode, you’ll likely see its undercurrent of sadness and loss. For all the cookie-baking and “ding-dong-darn” homilies, Lasso is at heart about the bravery and strength required to meet real hardship and overcome it without irony or disassociation. That requires broad shoulders and a gentle touch, both of which Sudeikis has in spades.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link


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