Thread of Wonder, the next 5000 posts: science fiction, fantasy, speculative fiction 2021 and beyond

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Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 April 2021 09:14 (one year ago) link

DO U SEE, I’m a stranger here myself.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 10:43 (one year ago) link

Singing thread title to the tune of the Theme from Underdog

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 12:30 (one year ago) link

Thread of Wonder
5000 posts

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 12:31 (one year ago) link

Wonder Thread
Wonder Thread!

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 12:32 (one year ago) link

Thread of royal beauty bright!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 April 2021 14:40 (one year ago) link

Cool, except PLEASE change "Sci-Fi" to "Science Fiction"; true headz will respect it more.

dow, Monday, 12 April 2021 15:47 (one year ago) link

Seriously, change that shit.

dow, Monday, 12 April 2021 15:47 (one year ago) link

If a mod wants to a mod can, now to read some skiffy some I can make a real contribution to the thread.

Scheming politicians are captivating, and it hurts (ledge), Monday, 12 April 2021 15:49 (one year ago) link


Scheming politicians are captivating, and it hurts (ledge), Monday, 12 April 2021 15:49 (one year ago) link

In thee beginning (not really, butt a big ol goodun, where I came in)
rolling fantasy, science fiction, speculative fiction &c. thread

dow, Monday, 12 April 2021 15:52 (one year ago) link

That rolled from 2011 to 2014, I believe.

dow, Monday, 12 April 2021 15:53 (one year ago) link

Kindle daily deal today. seems odd that it doesn't mention Gagarin by name.

also listed, a Tchaikovsky book, Doors of Eden. anyone? i liked the one about the spiders, i didn't like ironclads.

koogs, Monday, 12 April 2021 18:47 (one year ago) link

just finished The Ministry For the Future. almost comically unsubtle and didactic in its politcs. the last hundred pages or so were "scouring of the shire" bad. first half is excellent.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:51 (one year ago) link

started that -- the first scene is harrowing, but i instantly lost all interest when things shifted to the ministry itself. i suppose no one dramatizes vast bureaucratic processes better than KSR but it's a low bar, and i'm not really up for doom right now

read 'hench', which has a jokey premise -- underemployed young woman seeks placement as a villain's henchman through a temp service -- but turned out to be fierce as well as funny

started jo walton's 'the just city'; it's a little precious but i'm liking it a lot so far

mookieproof, Monday, 12 April 2021 22:25 (one year ago) link

as everyone says about recent KSR, it's actually very optimistic. the first scene though good grief.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 April 2021 22:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah, if the future is remotely like that KSR projects I'd be a hell of a lot more hopeful than I am now.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 00:44 (one year ago) link

the last hundred pages or so were "scouring of the shire" bad.

I am struggling with this sentence.

Scheming politicians are captivating, and it hurts (ledge), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 07:36 (one year ago) link


dow, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:05 (one year ago) link

ha! do you mean you're struggling with it syntactically or morally?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:10 (one year ago) link

Uh, aesthetically? The scouring of the shire is a highlight!

Scheming politicians are captivating, and it hurts (ledge), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:12 (one year ago) link

I'm more bothered by the lack of a comma in 5,000 than I am abt sci-fi tbh

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:31 (one year ago) link

Commas are only for numbers of five figures and up as far as I'm concerned

a murmuration of pigeons at manor house (Matt #2), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:53 (one year ago) link

Almost posted that embed 10x ina old-school JW Noizeborad style.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 19:34 (one year ago) link

I'm sure I talked about some of this in the previous thread about hanging out with horror people mostly then SFF people and then when you go back to horrorland, most people in SFF land start seeming really uptight and conversations have so many restricted areas and I have to respect what people aren't willing to discuss but I find it occasionally frustrating. And then there's this area of horror which is like the children of Dennis Cooper and it's lovely how relaxed they are and talking about what drugs they're taking all the time.

I generally like SFF fans but I do feel like a lot of them (even a lot of the progressive ones) still want stories that are easy to swallow and are probably afraid to look at their dog's anus.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 21:25 (one year ago) link

Only thing is, the blurbs for some of these authors can be completely ridiculous and leave you hanging, not knowing what it's like or about. "Britney Spears singing love songs to you while Baudelaire gives you an enema" or some nonsense like that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:18 (one year ago) link

Ha, exactly.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:25 (one year ago) link

Think I started a thread about that once.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:25 (one year ago) link

nothing more riveting than people talking about their drug regimens, very transgressive

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:32 (one year ago) link

I'm a complete teetolaler and I'm not even into drug talk but my point is it's nice to hear writers talking in a more carefree way. It's probably significant that the horror genre largely escaped the culture war and there's less people out to get each other.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 22:58 (one year ago) link

Like this crap is still going on in SFF land

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 23:02 (one year ago) link

i haven't the patience to delve into what you consider 'culture war' 'crap' that's 'easy to swallow'

tbh i've seen way too much of my cat's anus, but nor have i considered cramming something up there and calling it art

honestly you are fucking creepy as hell; maybe you should stick to to 'open-minded' horror boards where you can discuss what you want to do to your waifus with no judgment

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 April 2021 04:46 (one year ago) link

but nor have i considered cramming something up there and calling it art

Does anyone do this?

Old Lunch was asking maybe two years ago about problems with reactionary horror people but as far as the fiction/poetry side goes it's really minimal compared to SFF, it's been said they're more easy going and get on better together.
The drawback is maybe the low brow attitude, too much easy amusement with juxtaposing high and low culture and the shit eating grins (see lots of horror author photos) and it does annoy me when people feel they have to present dark or gross subject matter in a jokey way, I'm regularly guilty of it too and it's often my first instinct to joke about some of these things. I think people do this because if they keep a straight face about it, they're worried people will think they're crazy.
But I think sometimes humor and punky attitude doesn't let people process things as well, I'd rather the subject matters weren't considered so transgressive or frightening, it makes peoples lives more difficult. So it's nice when people are just more at ease with it all, but the transgression is undeniably part of the appeal of some of these writers.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:30 (one year ago) link

There's been a lot of good buzz about this one

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:33 (one year ago) link

Going to be weird hearing “George R.R. Martin Can Fuck Off Into the Sun, Or: The 2020 Hugo Awards Ceremony (Rageblog Edition)” read out at a ceremony.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:48 (one year ago) link

A little bit heartbreaking how many SFF authors despise each other and the awards nominations intensifying it all.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:43 (one year ago) link

How many people nominated for a Hugo alongside Isabel Fall this year celebrated the removal of her story or contributed to the harassment campaign against her?

I think I count 3 so far. I really hope she wins.

— Experiencing A Significant Poggers Shortfall (@mechanicalkurt) April 13, 2021

The entire SF/F community came out and said "if you don't write about being trans in the way we think you should, we will attempt to harm you."

This is especially angering because it was an open secret that literally all of Chuck Wendig's writer friends were sex pests.

— Qualia Redux (@QualiaRedux) April 15, 2021

and some nice animals. What's weirder than the giant bunny in the first picture, is the way that guy is holding the pilot's head

One great sub-genre of retro sci-fi art: Confusingly Placed Animals

— 70s Sci-Fi Art (@70sscifi) April 15, 2021

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 15 April 2021 23:24 (one year ago) link

Jess Nevins - Horror Needs No Passport

This starts with Nevins explaining his frustration that there has been very little survey or study of international horror fiction and that he did this book because nobody else had. It sticks to the 20th century (with occasional background and influential writers from further back), skips USA, UK and a few other english speaking countries but there is still a bunch of english fiction included from other countries. Nevins doesn't say which writers he has actually read himself, he quotes other scholars evaluations quite a lot but I did get the impression he was voicing his own opinions about most of the japanese writers (who are surprisingly well represented in english translation) and these were some of the most enjoyable parts.

It might have been inevitable that many of the writers end up sounding very similar and my eyes often glazed over the descriptions of their approaches (what subgenres, where the horror effects are coming from). But every once in a while there's really tantalizing or unusual sounding stories about Africa, Indonesian martial arts horror, a story about a shepherd, Tarzan starring in Israeli horror adventures, italian extreme horror and amazing sounding gothics from all around the world.

It notes a handful of comic artists, Suehiro Maruo is oddly absent but I was pleased to discover Daijiro Morohoshi who I might have seen a little of but most of what I found on search was new to me.

The political/cultural background for every country is detailed, if horror was frowned upon or even outlawed (often in soviet countries, Germany and Japan censored under post-war occupation, some people writing horror only in exile), whether what each writer was doing was considered high art or trash from the gutter. It seemed like quite a lot of the South American writers were politicians.
A few times Nevins writes about authors not pursuing just "mere fear" and it seemed as if it was his own opinion (?), I don't understand why someone so devoted to horror would feel that being scary for it's own sake wasn't enough, given how that approach can be as intense and memorable as anything else when it's done well.

It is mentioned that Ewers was a Nazi but not Strobl, somehow.

No cover credit for Utagawa Kuniyoshi.

I do wish there was some sort of guide about the availability in english of these books. Perhaps Nevins was concerned it would date the book too much and that people might not bother searching for newer books if they weren't already in an english list? I spent a while checking isfdb and amazon for many of the writers but I didn't have the patience to research every writer that sounded promising. A few were indeed published after this book.
Sad that I probably won't hear about most of these authors again. If a particular writer has sufficiently high status, there's a good chance Penguin or some other classics publisher has them in english, a good deal of this stuff goes unnoticed by most horror fans and I can't blame them too much for not catching them all.

This could and should be an important building block for the future of horror. It's pretty great and I bought Nevins' Horror Fiction In The 20th Century, which can be considered a companion to this.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 April 2021 00:20 (one year ago) link

I can't remember who the writer was but one of the unique ideas I came across in the above book was from a writer in exile from a dictatorship who wrote a novel in which even gods are powerless against the goverment, which just seems like a horribly depressing idea. Quite a few south american stories were mentioned in which all the characters are completely fucked and have nothing but terrifyingly bad choices available.

I didn't know that books aimed at railway travelers was such a big thing in India. Which makes me wonder about "airport novels", do publishers and even writers really spend a lot of time thinking about what people want to read at an airport?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 April 2021 21:06 (one year ago) link

I like the idea of Brunner but haven’t really been able to read.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 April 2021 22:14 (one year ago) link

Brunner’s supporting cast, including the Jesuit time-travel expert, Father Ramon

Another one for my 'Catholics in spaaaaaace!' list.

Scheming politicians are captivating, and it hurts (ledge), Monday, 19 April 2021 08:11 (one year ago) link

Never read any Brunner meself, sounds intriguing but this (re: Stand on Zanzibar) puts me off: Some examples of slang include "codder" (man), "shiggy" (woman), "whereinole" (where in hell?), "prowlie" (an armoured police car), "offyourass" (possessing an attitude), "bivving" (bisexuality, from "ambivalent") and "mucker" (a person running amok).

Scheming politicians are captivating, and it hurts (ledge), Monday, 19 April 2021 08:16 (one year ago) link

Elizabeth Moon's Remnant population: emo sf in the Le Guin mould. Good aliens and bad humans, though the humans aren't all that bad, and the dice are stacked rather heavily in favour of the aliens - not that Le Guin didn't indulge in a bit of dice stacking herself. Enjoyable but somewhat cosy and convenient.

Scheming politicians are captivating, and it hurts (ledge), Monday, 19 April 2021 09:28 (one year ago) link

Also for fans of (at least) 5000 posts, this Rollin Speculative looks like the first, b. 2011, and is where I came in: (hey thomp, get back here):
rolling fantasy, science fiction, speculative fiction &c. thread

dow, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:42 (one year ago) link

Didn't mean to drop the g, sorry.

dow, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:43 (one year ago) link

And there are a number of stories where characters never leave Earth---she might say, "You can't leave it, even when you drive it away, or somebody does."

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:06 (two months ago) link

*Eros* and Agape, duh, sorry (eros under the rose, anyway)

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:09 (two months ago) link

Oh cool, thought Yaszek was gonna do a follow-up, and sure enough:

]The Future Is Female! Volume Two, The 1970s: More Classic Science Fiction Stories By Women: A Library of America Special Publication Hardcover – October 11, 2022
by Lisa Yaszek (Editor)

Here are twenty-three wild, witty, and wonderful classics that dramatize the liberating energies of the 1970s:

Sonya Dorman, “Bitching It” (1971)
Kate Wilhelm, “The Funeral” (1972)
Joanna Russ, “When It Changed” (1972) NEBULA AWARD
Miriam Allen deFord, “A Way Out”(1973)
Vonda N. McIntyre, “Of Mist, and Grass, and Sand” (1973) NEBULA
James Tiptree, Jr., “The Girl Who Was Plugged In” (1973) HUGO AWARD
Kathleen Sky, “Lament of the Keeku Bird” (1973)
Ursula K. Le Guin, “The Day Before the Revolution” (1974) NEBULA & LOCUS AWARD
Eleanor Arnason, “The Warlord of Saturn’s Moons” (1974)
Kathleen M. Sidney, “The Anthropologist” (1975)
Marta Randall, “A Scarab in the City of Time” (1975)
Elinor Busby, “A Time to Kill” (1977)
Raccoona Sheldon, “The Screwfly Solution” (1977) NEBULA AWARD
Pamela Sargent, “If Ever I Should Leave You” (1974)
Joan D. Vinge, “View from a Height” (1978)
M. Lucie Chin, “The Best Is Yet to Be” (1978)
Lisa Tuttle, “Wives” (1979)
Connie Willis, “Daisy, In the Sun” (1979)

dow, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:55 (two months ago) link

Mark Valentine posts:

The Atlantis Bookshop at 49a Museum Street, London, WC1A 1LY, have announced:

'We are delighted to be able to host the author Nina Antonia this coming weekend, at 7pm on Saturday 13 August. Her book Dancing with Salome features a series of interlinking essays which take the reader on a journey to meet the Decadent demi-monde of the 1890’s with whom Wilde and Douglas mingled.

Whilst eroticism and mysticism were key themes of the Decadents, there was also a surge of interest in ritual magic, enabled by the flowering of the “Golden Dawn” – the most significant esoteric order in England’s history. Wilde’s wife, Constance, was a member, as was W.B. Yeats, alongside Aleister Crowley and Arthur Machen. All would play a part, directly or indirectly, in the drama of Oscar Wilde’s enchanted & accursed life'.

The bookshop is also offering inscribed copies for those unable to attend in person, if ordered through their website.

Cover art not so hot, but maybe book is at least ok info-wise, if goes beyond obvious basics:

dow, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 19:58 (one month ago) link

Strong 'graphic design is my passion' energy there.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 10:48 (one month ago) link

read THE LOST TIME ACCIDENTS by john wray. published by FSG so, you know, not *really* genre fiction

in 1905 a czech pickler suggests that time travel is possible (before being immediately run down by a very slow car). his descendants spend the next century trying to prove or disprove that suggestion in various ways (one of which involves running a nazi extermination camp)

many reviews seem to compare it to 'slaughterhouse five' because there's time travel and ww2. i would also compare it to 'little, big' apart from the fact that the protagonist is named after a josef mengele stand-in and there are no fairies, just nazis

also while i'm very familiar with the endings of SF novels being let-downs, this one took for fucking ever to get to.

(iirc i did like 'THE RIGHT HAND OF SLEEP' by this guy, but that was long ago)

mookieproof, Friday, 19 August 2022 01:12 (one month ago) link

also there was a manic pixie dream girl ffs

mookieproof, Friday, 19 August 2022 01:15 (one month ago) link

Great revive

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 August 2022 02:32 (one month ago) link

Mark Valentine in Mercurius Magazine:

What is a terrestrial zodiac? One good definition is from John Billingsley, editor of the long-running Northern Earth journal: “A coherent set of zodiacal or quasi-zodiacal symbols outlined by features of the landscape. Generally not thought to be human-made, their empirical existence is strongly questioned.”

He tells me: “Terrestrial zodiacs can be viewed as a kind of ‘attuned artwork’ emerging from the imagination of individuals finding a particular affinity with an area of landscape that lends itself to patterning, through an interaction of natural form and human impact.”

...Probably the earliest, and certainly the most renowned, example is the Glastonbury Zodiac, identified by the sculptor and mystic Katharine Maltwood in the 1920s. The inspiration for this was a rich nexus of myths and legends that had grown up around the Somerset town, connecting it to King Arthur, whose grave, with Guinevere, the Abbey once claimed to have: and the idea that Glastonbury was therefore the Isle of Avalon. She drew inspiration from the medieval High History of the Holy Graal and in one of her later books designated the zodiac as ‘King Arthur’s Round Table’.

dow, Saturday, 27 August 2022 02:51 (one month ago) link

fwiw i also strongly question their empirical existence

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 August 2022 03:08 (one month ago) link

That Wray book sounds terrible. Strongly disklike that "what if historical Pynchon but bloke-lit" micro genre (although I can only think of Wray and Ned Beauman as examples), it's just Ready Player One in fancy clothes.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 27 August 2022 11:14 (one month ago) link


I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 August 2022 13:19 (one month ago) link

Re: that scene in Vance's Dying Earth. It's on my bucket list to find the right moment to repeatedly shout "avaunt" at someone.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 21:33 (one month ago) link

Finally - more Zelazny reprints lined up for 2022/2023

— Balázs Farkas (@fbdbh) August 31, 2022

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 22:23 (one month ago) link

Wonderful article about Thomas Disch by Gregory Feeley

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 3 September 2022 22:48 (one month ago) link

Looks good, thanks!

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 September 2022 23:24 (one month ago) link

We are pleased to report the 2022 Hugo Award winners!

— (@tordotcom) September 5, 2022

mookieproof, Monday, 5 September 2022 04:06 (one month ago) link

Afraid to click.

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2022 13:15 (one month ago) link

most of the winners published by tor

can somebody explain tor to me?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 September 2022 13:37 (one month ago) link

I knew at one point but that was in the time of the previous thread.

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2022 14:53 (one month ago) link

They are the biggest american publisher and their website (which mostly reports about franchise junk films/tv) is popular. But they deserve credit for being the only big publisher with some commitment to novellas. And they're voting demographic (which pays for participation) skews a certain way since puppygate.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 5 September 2022 18:35 (one month ago) link

their voting demographic

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 5 September 2022 18:35 (one month ago) link

Also: recently learned that one puppygater went on a killing spree, murdering people who he fantasized about murdering in a novel he written

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 5 September 2022 18:37 (one month ago) link

One of those adjacent-category Hugo nominees---was hoping for an anthology, but might be good essays etc.:

Dangerous Visions and New Worlds: Radical Science Fiction, 1950 to 1985...contains over twenty chapters written by contemporary authors and critics, and hundreds of full-color cover images, including thirteen thematically organised cover selections. New perspectives on key novels and authors, such as Octavia Butler, Ursula K. Le Guin, Philip K. Dick, Harlan Ellison, John Wyndham, Samuel Delany, J.G. Ballard, John Brunner, Judith Merril, Barry Malzberg, Joanna Russ, and many others are presented alongside excavations of topics, works, and writers who have been largely forgotten or undeservedly ignored.

dow, Monday, 5 September 2022 20:24 (one month ago) link

Also: recently learned that one puppygater went on a killing spree, murdering people who he fantasized about murdering in a novel he written

what? really?

ledge, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 07:38 (one month ago) link

He was an extremely minor writer and I hadn't heard of him and there's a chance the others who were boosting him didn't even read his books, there used to be lots of them giving each other rave reviews who were ideologically opposed in many ways, but some of them really do despise each other. Doris is very good at covering right wing nutjobs in the scene

Since another "superversive" is doing the viral rounds, here's a reminder that the ranks of superversive-approved authors include an actual spree killer.

— Doris V. Sutherland (@DorVSutherland) August 5, 2022

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 12:43 (one month ago) link

I just started Remnant Population (one chapter in), and the prose is kind of bad, or at the very least, awkward. Does its quality get better?

we talkin bout praxis (Leee), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:55 (one month ago) link

no imo

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:56 (one month ago) link

More from Mark V:

When I began exchanging zines, tapes, and mail art with an array of correspondents, one of those I chanced upon was Mark Pawson. A friend had said to me that my envelopes were a bit boring (whatever might be said for the inside contents): his were always festooned with weird stickers and stamps. Fortunately, Mark P had the answer. He produced trapezoidal envelopes... But that wasn’t all Mark Pawson produced: there were all kinds of strange, swirling paper objects, and he was amazingly prolific. You never quite knew what would fall out of the envelope.

The same Mark Pawson (it can only be he) at Disinfotainment is still offering a bewildering and bizarre array of publications and products. You can get, for example, Monsterama, a scrapbook of imagery from vintage SF and horror films and comics, now in its third issue. Recently announced are reprints of futuristic, apocalyptic graphic novels by cyberpunk artist Tetsunori Tawaraya.

More, w links and comments:

dow, Thursday, 8 September 2022 01:08 (four weeks ago) link

For UK punters, I keep meaning to say that Fopp in Glasgow - and I'm guessing Fopps elsewhere - have some of those British Library SF anthologies in their 2 for 7 pounds deal. Three pounds fifty is about the right price for them - the ones I've sampled are a slightly creaky mix of much-anthologised classics eg ('A Martian Odyssey' by Stanley Weinbaum) and even older obscurities, handily out of copyright. Editor Mike Ashley (not the etc etc) is an old hand at these kind of things, and plainly knows his stuff, and the design is very nice.

I'm hoping that some of the British Library's supernatural series also turns up in Fopp.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 15 September 2022 12:37 (three weeks ago) link

read NONA THE NINTH by tamsyn muir, the third entry in her now-four-book locked tomb series

it was fine and i will absolutely read the fourth/final entry when it comes out next year (presumably)

but also i thought the first one (GIDEON THE NINTH) was fantastic, and these two sequels have not really measured up. (if you're gonna write a series, please try not to introduce an omnipotent character at the end of the first volume, because any subsequent conflict is totally contrived)

nevertheless i enjoy her writing -- she's also pretty funny -- and look forward to future things in which she hasn't painted herself into a corner

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 02:54 (two weeks ago) link

i put gideon the ninth down in the third chapter - i gotta pick it back up! i really liked it, not sure why i didn't keep on with it.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

spent half my birthday reading SPIN by robert charles wilson

i've only read this and THE CHRONOLITHS from him, which . . . iirc isn't *wildly* different? also he seems to have written at least two novels in which some alien object lands in the northern central united states and is quarantined by the government before it inevitably gets out of control

that said, SPIN's main Thing is super interesting and the government intervention isn't nearly as annoying/nihilistic as it was in late 70s pohl

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 September 2022 04:45 (two weeks ago) link

Today’s Caption This:

— Seán Ono Lennon (@seanonolennon) September 25, 2022

dow, Sunday, 25 September 2022 16:52 (one week ago) link

RIP Coolio, just 59. Many years ago, I spent a week with him for a magazine cover story (Details, March 1996). He grew up an asthmatic kid in Compton; as an adult, he was funny and sly and complicated. I hope he's riding dragons somewhere.

The opening of the article:

— Gavin Edwards (@mrgavinedwards) September 29, 2022

mookieproof, Friday, 30 September 2022 00:20 (one week ago) link

I'm reading Purgatory Mount by Adam Roberts, who I've never heard of despite his having a 20 year award winning career. His prose is effervescent, seems like one of those writers who really loves language which seems rare in this genre(*), or at least in the books I pick.

(*) sturgeons' law applies obv.

ledge, Friday, 30 September 2022 08:14 (one week ago) link

I'm reading Purgatory Mount by Adam Roberts, who I've never heard of despite his having a 20 year award winning career. His prose is effervescent, seems like one of those writers who really loves language which seems rare in this genre(*), or at least in the books I pick.

(*) sturgeons' law applies obv.

I think you would like The Thing Itself.

toby, Friday, 30 September 2022 13:08 (one week ago) link

That Coolio story is amazing.

i need to put some clouds behind the reaper (PBKR), Friday, 30 September 2022 13:10 (one week ago) link

B. Catling has passed away. I wondered how there could be 2 documentaries about him but he was in Alan Moore and Iain Sinclair's circle.

Really impressed that my friend now has a Zagava collection, he's made a bunch of graphic novels and his prose debut was at Tartarus so he's doing pretty great

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 1 October 2022 16:38 (six days ago) link

I think you would like The Thing Itself.

that actually rings a bell, though not sure what kind of bell - maybe i added it to one my many 'to read' lists then forgot about it - but yes I think you might be right.

ledge, Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:04 (six days ago) link

That one is in James Redd's Infinite Library of ebooks purchased but barely started and never finished.

If The Damned Are United (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:03 (six days ago) link

The original cyberpunk anthology is online for free. I wish it was a pdf

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:01 (six days ago) link

it'll be easy enough to convert to an epub and from there to anything i think. ilxmail me.

koogs, Sunday, 2 October 2022 09:49 (five days ago) link

"Note that I do not grant you the right to convert, to republish or to sell the free ebooks or the contents of the free webpages."

so, er, don't ilxmail me.

koogs, Sunday, 2 October 2022 09:56 (five days ago) link

although "html to pdf" turns up a heap of sites that'll do this for you

there also java, javascript, python and c# libraries that claim to do it if you have the coding chops.

koogs, Sunday, 2 October 2022 10:02 (five days ago) link

I have the bottom left copy, can recall a few of the stories - gernsback, petra, m in m, all 4/5, though if they count as cyberpunk it's in form not content.

ledge, Sunday, 2 October 2022 12:08 (five days ago) link

There should be a science fiction genre for environmental, economic, and social planning that focuses specifically on the planning aspects.

youn, Thursday, 6 October 2022 20:39 (yesterday) link

Seems like KRS's Mars trilogy involves a lot of planning? Judging by comments on previous Rolling Speculative threads.

dow, Friday, 7 October 2022 00:02 (thirteen hours ago) link

That’s what jumped right to my mind as well

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 October 2022 00:08 (thirteen hours ago) link

no idea if this would fit but I came across it the other day and thought it looked interesting:

ledge, Friday, 7 October 2022 06:22 (seven hours ago) link

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