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Because the old one got too long and Shakey couldn't load it. A sequel to rolling fantasy, science fiction, speculative fiction &c. thread

fgtbaoutit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:51 (five years ago) link

Hoping to report on Report On Probability A in the near future.

fgtbaoutit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:54 (five years ago) link

Gregory Benford: Artifact --- archaeologists uncover lethal alien thingy in Mycenean burial ground. Not brilliantly written, but interesting enough to continue with. Entertainingly, for a book written in 1985, it contains early 21st-century Greece falling apart because of a worldwide economic depression/recession

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 November 2014 01:11 (five years ago) link

lol @ thread title

Report on Probability A - was idly thinking of re-reading that recently, I remember being p underwhelmed by its central formal conceit. I expected it to be much loopier and disorienting. In general, Aldiss is v hit or miss for me (something I've read Moorcock attribute to his needing a good editor/manager, someone to set goals/targets for him). Cryptozoic is undreadable, for example, but I consider Barefoot in the Head from just a year or two later a masterpiece.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:20 (five years ago) link

undreadable
Brian W. "Crazy Baldhead" Aldiss

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:27 (five years ago) link

Read rep on prob a at least twice a long time ago, didn't know anything about last year at marienbad but enjoyed the formal conceit and the last few pages made me want to high five him.

thread title capitalisation and constant reminder of that dunderheaded heinlein story is gonna make me rmde to eternity.

ledge, Friday, 14 November 2014 10:03 (five years ago) link

agonising as it may be for ledge, this restart is v handy for me, as I meant to start following the previous thread after the initial poll that prompted it, and then i didn't and then it got so long that my approach of 'I must read all of it before participating' turned into hiding from the thread and not ever talking about some of my favourite strands of writing :/

Fizzles, Friday, 14 November 2014 10:41 (five years ago) link

Sorry for thread title, ledge, I did it to annoy Shakey, not you.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:17 (five years ago) link

You are not the only one who couldn't read prior thread, Fizzles. Was constantly using the search feature or wondering where something was only to learn it was further upthread.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:26 (five years ago) link

Still slogging through the last of Atwood's Maddadam trilogy. The third book is piss-weak, slow going and uninteresting, and her stylistic flaws seem to show through more and more. Because it's sci-fi there's an attempt to be, I dunno, edgy or hardboiled or something and it's about as convincing as one of your parents trying on an ill-fitting leather jacket. Bit of a shame really, becaus eI enjoyed the first two books (Oryx & Crake / Year of the Flood) immensely.

joni mitchell jarre (dog latin), Friday, 14 November 2014 11:34 (five years ago) link

I think I forgotten to say on the previous thread that another one of the best features on fantasticfiction site is it shows you the blurbs writers have done for other people's books.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 14:35 (five years ago) link

Cool I'll just keep pasting in stuff from prev thread everytime somebody mentions something already discussed thoroughly, as I kept etc on prev thread its own self. Speaking of blurbs, here's a good 'un from a recent library shop score, Wandering Stars, An Anthology of Jewish Fantasy and Science Fiction, edited by Jack Dann, Introduction by Isaac Asimov:
I loved Wandering Stars, and why not? Two of the thirteen stories are from Orbit, and I would have bought seven of the rest if I had got my hands on them first. If the book had nothing else going for it, it would still be a triumph to get William Tenn to write the great story he was talking about in the fifties.--Damon Knight
(Also a blurb from Leo Rosten, who wrote The Education of Hyman Kaplan, about an immigrant who tends to take over English classes with his own versions and visions of language and lit.)

dow, Friday, 14 November 2014 15:47 (five years ago) link

Contents (some of these titles are corny, but the few stories I kinda remember from mags etc were good):

Introduction:
"Why Me?" by Isaac Asimov

William Tenn: "On Venus, Have We Got A Rabbi"

Avram Davidson: "The Golem"

Isaac Asimov: "Unto the Fourth Generation"

Carol Carr: "Look, You Think You've Got Troubles"

Avram Davidson: "Goslin Day"

Robert Silverberg: "The Dybbuk of Mazel Tov IV"

Horace L. Gold: "Trouble With Water"

Pamela Sargent: "Gather Blue Roses"

Bernard Malamud: "The Jewbird"

Geo. Alec Effinger: "Paradise Lost"

Robert Sheckley: "Street of Dreams, Feet of Clay"

Isaac Bashevis Singer: Jachid and Jechidah"

Harlan Ellison: "I'm Looking For Kadah"

dow, Friday, 14 November 2014 16:00 (five years ago) link

I just looked at a full schedule of all the books on SF Gateway (presumably this is the ebook titles). It's 2599 books!
Cant remember where I found the document.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 21:16 (five years ago) link

UK or US or other?

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 21:39 (five years ago) link

Probably UK

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 November 2014 22:02 (five years ago) link

Considerably fewer in US

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 November 2014 22:12 (five years ago) link

Mark Sinker makes some connections (for inst., between Gothic and Futurist lit) new to me, after viewing the National Gallery's William Morris exhibition: http://dubdobdee.co.uk/2014/11/02/the-wood-beyond-the-world-or-this-bus-has-a-new-destination/

dow, Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:51 (five years ago) link

Thanks. Surely the friend mentioned there is an ILB poster.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:59 (five years ago) link

RMDE at that this thread title too, as well as the terrible screenname I had at the time. Don't know why I did it. I guess the door dilated and I just had to go through it.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 14:59 (five years ago) link

before I forget: this Brazilian writer recently died and Clute tweeted link to very appealing SFE overview of his work:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/carneiro_andre

dow, Sunday, 16 November 2014 15:51 (five years ago) link

Ooh! I mean RIP but yknow

Οὖτις, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:02 (five years ago) link

Thanks. Often hard to find something like that in translation or even not in translation. Wonder if he had anything in that Cosmos Latinos anthology? Don't seem to recognize the name.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:03 (five years ago) link

(xp, obv)

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:03 (five years ago) link

okay, "Brain Transplant."

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:05 (five years ago) link

I've only read Brain Transplant but would def read more provided stuff gets translated

Οὖτις, Sunday, 16 November 2014 16:06 (five years ago) link

Hey James, tried to reply to yr kind email, but it won't let us reply directly, and the webmail form has the worst captcha evah, I refreshed it a half-dozen times, got rejected over and over and over and over and over and over. So I'll reply here: thanks, you keep up the good posts too!

dow, Monday, 17 November 2014 02:06 (five years ago) link

has this been posted already?
http://www.luminist.org/archives/SF/

Οὖτις, Monday, 17 November 2014 16:18 (five years ago) link

Laird Barron wrote a parody of the horror/weird scene, it included jabs at Mark Samuels in particular (however serious they were intended, nobody knows), there was some discussion of this at the Ligotti forum and eventually that resulted in Justin Isis writing hilarious rap battle lyrics.
Several spread across this page
http://www.ligotti.net/showthread.php?t=6815&page=9

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 17 November 2014 23:35 (five years ago) link

The xpost link to Mark Sinker's William Morris exhibit etc is back online this afternoon. Read that before reading further, for max headroom:
When his fellow visitor/ILXor xyzzz (sic?) said it was down this morning, I told Mark, and we had this email exchange:

Mark:oh cheers, yes, the guy who hosts it (on a laptop in his spare room) sometimes has to reboot :)

me: OK, will keep in mind. I fairly recently got into Morris and those Kipling stories (if you meant "As Easy As A-B-C" and "With The Night Mail," for inst), but hadn't made the connection. Now I'm also thinking of Blade Runner's Earth, a mostly abandoned First World-as-Third World backstreet, where it rains all night in perpetual eco-ruins; also PKD's original setting, more like a slightly-future-to-us Beijing, with workers scuttling between buildings, hoping not to be singed/cancer-seeded by the invisible sun. Some later Tiptree stories too, and Mary Shelley's The Last Man, for me amazing as Frankenstein.
Probably some of Kim Stanley Robinson's later novels too, though they've gotten so long I may never know (early The Wild Shore was fine, best I recall). But I recently saw a mention of "cli-fi" as emerging trend, so we may get sick of the whole thing even before it all comes true.

Mark: Yes, Kipling’s mum was related to a famous Pre-Raphaelite in the Morris circle — his dad of course ran the Lucknow museum — and when he was boarded in England as kid (not the notorious time that became Baa Baa Black Sheep) he stayed with the De Morgans, who were also minor slebs in Arts&Crafts terms: William DM a high-end potter and tile designer (he did the fireplaces for the Titanic iirc!)

Yrs partly (Kipling's)sic-fi stories, but also the stories about ships and trains and cars — esp.the ones from the perspective of the train or ship. The ones abt cars are really intriguing: he was totally an early adopter.

me: Didn't know any of that, thanks! Will def have to read more Kipling----recently found one of his I mentioned in an anth w HG's "The Land Ironclads"---getting back into Wells, and suspect the Eloi and Morlocks might have gotten Morris (and Tolkien) going. Finally read The Lord Of The Rings, and feel like I totally/mostly get it! Specific associations re the "not allegorical, dammit!" Ring/magic can shift, but lately I think of fossil fuels as thee ancient source of modern marvels, source which must now be sacrificed to/for any chance of future lives, bearable legacy But once that ship sails off into the autumn sea, it sails, buddy. So the book is a tragedy, but fairly often experienced as a comedy, in a commedia sense: fascination of the vivid details, robustly acted out, with some mortal meat joy, and other meat conditions.

dow, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 19:08 (five years ago) link

William DM a high-end potter and tile designer (he did the fireplaces for the Titanic iirc!

De Morgan Centre looking for a foothold. (Those are Tolkien's ships, right there)

alimosina, Thursday, 20 November 2014 01:24 (five years ago) link

Just heard "Dream Weaver" on the radio. Wasn't there an sf writer named Gary Wright who had a much anthologized story about some futuristic luge called something like "Ice Slide"? "Ice Capades"? "Ice Rink" ? "Ice Mutants"? and then was never heard from again? I'll guess I'll see what Clute & Co have to say.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:44 (five years ago) link

http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/games_and_sports
"Mirror of Ice"

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:48 (five years ago) link

Looks like some Canadian teacher assigned it to his students to adapt as a short film. Don't think it was clemenza, though.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:55 (five years ago) link

Can anyone tell me what on earth Science Fiction Poetry is? Poems of fantasy and horror just uses tropes of those genres but how do you achieve the conceptual framework of SF in poetry? Because without that, the tropes by themselves would just be fantasy poems or poems about radical change.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 November 2014 20:56 (five years ago) link

If you have to ask you'll never know.

Tom Disch might have had something to tell you about it, but he is sadly no longer with us.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 21:00 (five years ago) link

Oh gosh, now that you mention it, I've seen poetry in science fiction mags as far back as I can remember, though I don't remember any specific poem, at least in part because I haven't read any sf mags in a long time. I do remember there being quite a range, from short light verse (limericks, even)to much more ambitious testimonials and mini-sagas(never got much space in the page sense).
I'll have to dig up some of those zines; meanwhile this looks like a good place to start:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/poetry

dow, Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:22 (five years ago) link

Also notable were the infusion of a quantity of poetry into the text of Brian W Aldiss's novel Barefoot in the Head (1969)

Thinking about what Aldiss to read next, since I finished Report on Probability A , which I will give a report grade of 'A' to, and this is on my short list.

There are some poems in the anthology Sense of Wonder.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 22:51 (five years ago) link

Just came across a 1962 American printing of The Long Afternoon of Earth, AKA Hothouse; unabridged edition didn't come out in the US 'til 76.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/915UUZNX5hL._SL1500_.jpg

dow, Sunday, 23 November 2014 23:37 (five years ago) link

Did you buy it? It is currently out of print. I loved the story/extract in the Silverberg SF 101 book, as mentioned on prior thread.

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 23:41 (five years ago) link

This is the abridged version I got (for 25 cents)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518xgA8aO7L._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 00:00 (five years ago) link

in terms of thematic vibe, this cover may be more appropriate, but the UK is awesome o coures

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 00:01 (five years ago) link

In your favorite online sf reference work I believe that book has the tag ***SEMISPOILER ALERT** "Space Elevator" **END OF SEMISPOILER ALERT

Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 November 2014 00:28 (five years ago) link

Vandermeer has come back to one he still thinks is underappreciated. The title and author seem vaguely familiar; anybody read it? http://www.jeffvandermeer.com/2007/08/19/smile-on-the-void-by-stuart-gordon/

dow, Monday, 24 November 2014 05:22 (five years ago) link

New Yorker won't let me link, but check out Laura Miller's "Fresh Hell" for clear lens view of profuse YA dystopias, and how the lit varies from Classic adult-aimed (later school-assigned). TNY's Amy Davidson later agrees with much but not all of Miller's take.

dow, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:40 (five years ago) link

been reading LeGuin's "A Fisherman of the Inland Sea" (they had it at the library). I took Disch to task in "The Dreams Our Stuff is Made of" for his attacks on her, and while I won't recant on that count (he was unnecessarily harsh and dismissive), she really can let her didacticism get in the way. I can think of few fiction writers that have a more keenly developed political agenda that is so readily apparent in their work. Ayn Rand obviously (lol) and Heinlein and Scott Card I suppose. But LeGuin's well to the left of those boorish blowhards, and arguably more audacious conceptually. I wonder if I should go back and re-read the Kestrel books for any political subtext I may have missed in jr high, I always liked those...

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:17 (five years ago) link

I don't think I'll read her for a very long time unless I come across her work in anthologies. Because once Moorcock said her work was self-consciously literary and left him cold. But he was very fond of her as a person.

That really put me off and what you say here adds to that. But Wizard Of Earthsea is an attractive name so I'm not totally discouraged.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:28 (five years ago) link

Moorcock doesn't always make the right choices...

Even people I know who don't usually like her (or science fiction in general) tend to like this

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81dSlqYK3SL.jpg

dow, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:40 (five years ago) link

Has Peter Beagle's Last Unicorn been out of print for a while? Because I had to search around amazon several minutes to find a cheap copy. I just imagined it was perpetually in print.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:49 (one month ago) link

Dunno, but you've gotten me to dig up a thrift store find, The Fantasy Worlds of Peter Beagle (Viking, 1978): "Lila and the Werewolf" (from the 60s, really liked it, only one of these I've read), with "The Last Unicorn," "Come, Lady Death," and "A Fine and Private Place." Have you read these?

Also, as mentioned upthread, in 2019: one of my faves from Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2017, guest edited by Charles Yu, series Editor John Joseph Adams: "The Story of Kao Yu," by Peter S. Beagle, might or might not have come from an actual Chinese folk tale, but has no "translated" quaintness: it's about a circuit-riding judge and his staff, in some Empire, some century or other, but there's nothing vague about the characters or their situations--fantasy element is the entity that sometimes appears in the back of whatever courtroom, observing. I guess it *could* be considered topical, in the sense that gender roles, incl. suddenly hapless maleness, can still be news, somehow.

dow, Friday, 21 August 2020 15:47 (one month ago) link

No, I haven't read any of his stuff.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 21 August 2020 16:15 (one month ago) link

This is an appealing overview, I think, although does have some spoilers, but for me it's all about the telling--goes toward 1997, when the Encyclopedia of Fantasy stopped updating:
http://sf-encyclopedia.uk/fe.php?nm=beagle_peter_s
He doesn't write SF, but here's a group of links to SFE references:
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/beagle_peter_s

dow, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:36 (one month ago) link

That makes him sound interesting. I'd always for some reason mentally grouped him with Andre Norton and Piers Anthony as writers of crap I could safely ignore.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 22 August 2020 03:15 (one month ago) link

That category keeps getter smaller for me. Christopher Paolini and Terry Brooks are about the only writers left who I've never really heard much defense of.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 22 August 2020 17:17 (one month ago) link

Lol

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 August 2020 19:05 (one month ago) link

There's been so so many writers I've written off but later on heard a compelling recommendation for them by someone who seems to know what they're talking about.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 22 August 2020 20:21 (one month ago) link

peter s beagle is very good indeed, i try to reread last unicorn every few years. i've tried recommending it in the past but haven't really found a good way to convince ppl to read a book about a unicorn.

i found an old paperback copy of a fine and private place in a used bookstore last year and decided to buy it because it matched my copy of last unicorn -- same publisher, same size, similar illustration. when i got home i realized that beagle himself had signed and personalized it to someone -- in 1969!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 22 August 2020 23:10 (one month ago) link

Worst Tolkien cover in existence? pic.twitter.com/kW2XlpKqKb

— Landry Lee (@_LandryJLee) August 22, 2020

chonky floof (groovypanda), Monday, 24 August 2020 14:56 (one month ago) link

Lol

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 24 August 2020 15:01 (one month ago) link

xpost

lol that was the copy my middle-school library had. this one's even worse:

https://pictures.abebooks.com/SKLUBOOKS2014/22525284458.jpg

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 August 2020 23:55 (one month ago) link

Great interview, I like this idea of reading everything possible and "seeing the forest, not the trees" and whatever that reveals.
http://www.scottedelman.com/2020/08/28/farah-mendlesohn/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 30 August 2020 19:53 (four weeks ago) link

https://www.thelondonmagazine.org/interview-michael-cisco-on-weird-fiction-cheerful-nihilism-and-sex-in-literature/
Quite good interview. I still have 3 of his books waiting to be read.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 10 September 2020 20:12 (two weeks ago) link

Same! One day.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 11 September 2020 02:41 (two weeks ago) link

Charles Saunders, pioneer of African fantasy and black sword and sorcery
https://www.facebook.com/milton.davis.52/posts/10214005770897028

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 September 2020 20:42 (two weeks ago) link

David Gullen - Third Instar

I bought this at the same time as the paperback of The Girl From A Thousand Fathoms and I was way more eager for that but this is so short and I seen a good review of it on The Bedlam Files, so I just started here.

It's about a city on the edge of (the/a) world and people like to fly around the sky by means of kites. There's some fantasy creatures but it's mostly about a city love story and a man repeatedly restarting his life.

I found it a little hard to visualize everything that happens with the cauldron, just how fast and rough the journey is that allows the main character to do everything he does in it.

It's quite good. Occasionally I felt like I needed more description of the gods, some of the settings and clothes but I'm looking forward to The Girl From A Thousand Fathoms.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:22 (one week ago) link

as aldo nova once asked, can you live this fantasy life?

We're excited to launch the Centre for Fantasy and the Fantastic - the first research centre in the world to focus solely on #fantasy! 🌍

The centre will bring together the biggest group of academics working in this field

More 👉 https://t.co/NgNCv4JYFR @UofGFantasy pic.twitter.com/FGzh06ppCZ

— University of Glasgow (@UofGlasgow) September 14, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:41 (one week ago) link

Nice. I seen some of their blog a while ago.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:02 (one week ago) link

Lesbian adventure fantasy (possibly similar to Ellen Kushner?), could be good.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cantina/silk-and-steel

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:13 (one week ago) link

Am reading (and enjoying) A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine, a murder mystery very much in the Ancillary Justice mould - diplomatic, procedural, largely dialogue driven, set in a self-satisfied and borderline xenophobic empire with elaborate systems of language, manners, social mores.

Gave up on reading Velocity Weapon by Megan O'Keefe after 5 of about 800 chapters. Too long, too slow - three pages of airlock repair killed it for me.

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 08:22 (one week ago) link

Martine said that CJ Cherryh was a huge influence on it, some people said Foreigner in particular.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:25 (one week ago) link

Yeah still haven't managed to find any cherryh ebooks, or not ones i want to read anyway. am strangely reluctant to get even second hand hard copies from an author i haven't read before.

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:36 (one week ago) link

i'm also unable in the uk to purchase an ebook (not kindle) of robert crowley's last novel, though they exist. wtf take my money! i will have to get a hard copy of that.

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:39 (one week ago) link

I've been reading the third Dying Earth book by Jack Vance and I'm getting a feeling that Vance (or at least this series) is all about the diversions and not the main quest. Tipping off waiter boys' hats, sneakily cutting off beards, Cugel generally trying to take advantage of or escape a situation.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 19:50 (one week ago) link

Yeah, Vance is all about texture, not plot, for me.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 02:37 (one week ago) link

Totally

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 03:09 (one week ago) link

The plot is there because it has to be in order for Vance to dance

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 23:13 (one week ago) link

Stop the presses:
One hundred years ago today, on 16 September 1920, the most remarkable novel of the twentieth-century was published by Methuen of London: A Voyage to Arcturus by David Lindsay

I've read the novel and a few other things (incl. Christmas play) by this strangely strange, somewhat fun author---did not know about the film, the opera, the heavy metal stage musical all based on novel---links to and/or about those in this blog post:

http://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-centenary-of-voyage-to-arcturus.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Wormwoodiana+%28Wormwoodiana%29

dow, Thursday, 17 September 2020 00:14 (one week ago) link

Spoiler alert---...a tale whose apocalyptic intensity – and whose refusal of any balm or loving-kindness as its protagonist scours an alien world in search of a savage Transcendence – marks it as a work written in the aftermath of World War One; the last word spoken in the book, the true name of the deformed Virgil figure who goads the protagonist to the stars, is Pain (see Horror in SF). The story may be called sf, or Scientific Romance, because there is little point in describing a tale involving a Spaceship and a Fantastic Voyage to another planet of well-described Archipelagos filled with ever-changing beings (see Evolution; Life on Other Worlds) as fantasy. However, it is superficially modelled on the fantasy novels of George MacDonald. Several books I didn't know about!
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/lindsay_david

dow, Thursday, 17 September 2020 00:21 (one week ago) link

Welp, there goes that space romance cooking in my head 😂. pic.twitter.com/3NJsVKmWDB

— Mims the Word (@mims_words) September 17, 2020


Some commenters say artificial gravity would solve this but I don't know.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:10 (one week ago) link

"could", have they not tested it? we've had people sleeping in space for years, all it takes is a strip of postage stamps.

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:20 (one week ago) link

I'm reading Gideon The Ninth by Tamsyn Muir and it's fucking bananas and I love it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:06 (five days ago) link

I'm looking forward to that series and Alix E Harrow, they seem to both be storming successes right now.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 19:23 (five days ago) link

I know these are pieces of writing advice (arguably a bit off-topic) but both impressed me and I've been meaning to read both writers for a while. Davidson is New Weird and Christian writes varieties of sf and horror.

https://overland.org.au/previous-issues/issue-216/feature-rjurik-davidson/
http://www.autumnchristian.net/why-i-ruined-my-writing-career/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 22:34 (four days ago) link

Usman T Malik's debut collection
https://www.usmanmalik.org/product/midnight-doorways-fables-from-pakistan/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 23:32 (four days ago) link

I've seen appealing reviews of that for quite a while, is it good?

RIP Ron Cobb---good overview/taste of his freewheeling thang here, starting with cover art for The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction: http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/

Also in here, with good stuff via other heads and hands:
http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2018/04/27/the-artists-of-future-life/

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:48 (two days ago) link

I suddenly remembered in my sleep last night that Durnik was granted magical powers, and how disappointed I felt when this was the case. I thought it was elegant that a lowly blacksmith was part of the party and felt betrayed that David Eddings felt the need to imbue him, too, with the power of magic. Weird dream

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 25 September 2020 17:19 (two days ago) link

Pointing its dreamfinger right at why I've fairly rarely gotten into/given fantasy a chance, compared to sf.

dow, Friday, 25 September 2020 18:29 (two days ago) link

Really liking this drowned world setting in Cherryh's second Morgaine book.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 September 2020 19:58 (two days ago) link

Interesting that Douglas Lain, Ben Burgis and Laurie Penny are all science fiction writers.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2020 15:33 (yesterday) link

Thomas Ligotti is releasing his first work (a book of poems) since 2014, which will have a companion album by Current 93. There was a general expectation that he wouldn't write anything again for health reasons but there has been signs that he might be able to write a bunch more.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2020 17:30 (yesterday) link

Excited about the C93 portion!

I love Ligotti deeply but mainly for Grimscribe/Noctuary

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:04 (yesterday) link

Nicoll doesn't care for the first cover (which I've never seen before) but I think it's awesome.
https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/the-flame-thats-in-her-eyes
I have the first omnibus of this series.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:55 (yesterday) link

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/06/24/liu-cixins-war-of-the-worlds
http://file770.com/the-legislative-body-problem-gop-senators-criticize-netflix-plan-to-adapt-liu-cixin-hugo-winner/
I was wondering how long before something like this came up and it happened last year and I didn't hear anything about it. Liu being supportive of the what China are doing with the Uighurs. I don't know what people can reasonably expect so maybe that's why there wasn't a bigger deal about it. Lots of people say there's huge pressure for big authors to agree with the government.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 September 2020 00:37 (twenty-two hours ago) link

From the comments

Even supposedly progressive Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez just announced the celebration of brutal war criminal Yitzhak Rabin, guilty of ordering the breaking of bones of children, of ethnic cleansing and of organising death marches for civilians.

One for her thread?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 27 September 2020 00:45 (twenty-two hours ago) link

Not this one, though she's since withdrawn from participation in the commemoration btw.

dow, Sunday, 27 September 2020 00:56 (twenty-two hours ago) link


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