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Wasn't entirely sure about the nomenclature, but oh well.

I'm working my way through this:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1212/708077557_61f4c0c140.jpg

for the first time in about fifteen years. It's a little too much of that sort of thing at once for me, these days. I mean, there's been a few too many openings like this:

For Jeff Otis, fresh from a hop through space from the extra-bright star that was the other component of the binary system, the heat was enervating. The shorts and light shirt supplied him by the planet coordinator were soaked with perspiration. He mopped his forehead and turned to his host.

'Very nice job, Finchley,' he complimented.

thomp, Thursday, 28 April 2011 09:50 (nine years ago) link

Have that omnibus in its original three volume format, and I must have read them a dozen times each, but I have no idea which story that is from.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Thursday, 28 April 2011 09:56 (nine years ago) link

I'm reading Patrick Rothfuss's The Name of the Wind. It's alright.

Number None, Thursday, 28 April 2011 10:04 (nine years ago) link

well, yes. exactly. xpost

thomp, Thursday, 28 April 2011 10:04 (nine years ago) link

Currently reading Roger Zelazny - Chronicles of Amber:

http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://tirpetz1.fortunecity.com/authorpages/zelazny/amber/1stchroniclesofamber.jpg&sa=X&ei=8jq5TcHxMsKahQfwzdH3Dg&ved=0CAQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNEdLrIKOyrKVarAuRQotRisarrU0A

I'm on to the third book Sign of the Unicorn. Honestly, it is okay - I will probably stop after 5 which is the first chronicle, as I've heard books 5 - 10 aren't worth it. When I started it I thought it was kind of horrendous, but it found its stride more in the second novella (it is composed of short novellas rather than 1000+ page behemoths which is a plus point imo). Basically pulpy alternate world fantasy that is somewhat reminiscent of Michael Moorcock. Not convinced Zelazny uses the setting to its full potential though.

I'm also reading a lot of short fiction at the moment including the first Interzone Anthology from 1986 (which includes Angela Carter and JG Ballard and a lot of people pretending to be JG Ballard) and Songs of the Dying Earth (edited by Gardner Dozois), which as the title suggests is collection of tribute stories to Jack Vance set in the Dying Earth milieu. It is good but basically exactly what you would expect given the theme and setting.

Next on my list:

Chris Beckett - Holy Machine
Alfred Bester - The Demolished Man
Theodore Sturgeon - More than Human

I saw that Lauren Beukes won the Arthur C Clarke award for Zoo City - anyone read this? Thoughts?

Also has anyone read Hugh Cook's Chronicles of an Age of Darkness series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Cook_%28science_fiction_author%29 ? These sound awesome but are maybe a little hard to come by plus it isn't quite clear to me if they have to be read in order or not.

ears are wounds, Thursday, 28 April 2011 10:14 (nine years ago) link

xp that may be but the collection still pretty much defined my idea of SF as a kid. There is, perhaps unsurprisingly, a strong Twilight Zone vibe to a lot of the stories. Here's my top nine, all unfuckwithable imo, the Ballard in particular is my favourite short story ever written, full stop.

Track 12 by J G Ballard
The End of Summer by Algis Budrys
MS Found in a Chinese Fortune Cookie by C M Kornbluth
The Store of the Worlds by Robert Sheckley
Common Time by James Blish
The Tunnel Under the World by Frederik Pohl
The Country of the Kind by Damon Knight
Build Up Logically by Howard Schoenfeld
The Snowball Effect by Katherine MacLean

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Thursday, 28 April 2011 10:22 (nine years ago) link

More and more I think I just don't get Ballard.

I reread those Zelazny books last month. I wrote about them on my lolblog, even — http://timocraticyouth.tumblr.com/post/4398398741/trumps-of-doooooooooooooom — they're still kind of fun, though I think the fun runs out in book five. I think what you say about using the setting to its full potential is pretty apt: apart from the quick run back to Earth there's very little with the various shadows etc. after book two, which you kind of wonder if it's worth it. And the stuff using that in book five is kind of plainly padding.

I also read the second five for the first time: they're not awful, I think, although like a lot of post-70s Zelazny they're kind of careerist, schticky. The first five I think are at least nine-tenths planned in advance; the second five it's more like 40-60%, I think; they just sort of end. Also there's a paucity of imagination in terms of the whole chaos-order thing, i.e. the houses of Chaos turn out to be basically the same as Amber except they have I don't know scales and shit.

thomp, Thursday, 28 April 2011 10:41 (nine years ago) link

I found with the second Amber series that there were some interesting ideas (like the whole way the main character's magic stuff worked), but the plotting was very poor over the whole run of books. I really got the impression that he was basically making it all up as he went along and hoping it came together.

The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 28 April 2011 15:39 (nine years ago) link

That's certainly the impression I'm getting.

ears are wounds, Thursday, 28 April 2011 15:48 (nine years ago) link

I'm reading Zoo City at the moment, about 1/3 in. It's like a cross between The Amber Spyglass and a Bruce Sterling or somf... very readable, so far not shaking my worldview.

The guy who did the cover won the BSFA art award too, so it's been a good week for Lauren's publishers!

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Thursday, 28 April 2011 16:11 (nine years ago) link

The rejigged best-of Aldiss collection's pretty good--includes stuff from the years since the original publications

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/P/0141188928.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Nice to see it getting respect as a Penguin Modern Classic--these books were pretty formative for a lot of us, I suspect

You're fucking fired and you know jack shit about horses (James Morrison), Thursday, 28 April 2011 22:54 (nine years ago) link

RIP Joanna Russ...

Confused Turtle (Zora), Friday, 29 April 2011 18:59 (nine years ago) link

shit. really?

thomp, Friday, 29 April 2011 21:38 (nine years ago) link

Fraid so. Series of strokes - she was 74 - she had a DNR in place.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:50 (nine years ago) link

RIP
I have a copy of Female Man I've been meaning to read for awhile now.

President Keyes, Friday, 29 April 2011 22:01 (nine years ago) link

Me too. Now must be the time.

You're fucking fired and you know jack shit about horses (James Morrison), Saturday, 30 April 2011 00:52 (nine years ago) link

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/0e/f3/cddd810ae7a0d4c46c869110.L.jpg

best bathroom book ever (sorry ladies)

mookieproof, Saturday, 30 April 2011 01:07 (nine years ago) link

Wait, you think ladies don't read short short science fiction? Or Asimov's collections? Or that we don't read in the bathroom? I don't know what I'm supposed to be upset about here.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Saturday, 30 April 2011 09:12 (nine years ago) link

On second thoughts nvm, I'm not a 'lady'.

Confused Turtle (Zora), Saturday, 30 April 2011 09:13 (nine years ago) link

I didn't know what that meant either! I kind of am a lady, probably.

Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Saturday, 30 April 2011 13:38 (nine years ago) link

(Thomp I had no idea you had a blog! I am delighted at this news.)

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 30 April 2011 14:22 (nine years ago) link

I think he means he is going to blow out the bathroom while reading that book

Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Saturday, 30 April 2011 16:03 (nine years ago) link

Any rec'd sites with entire sf stories posted? They don't have to be downloads, but they do gotta be free (of charge, at least).

dow, Sunday, 1 May 2011 22:15 (nine years ago) link

I like Richard Kadrey's micro-stories here
http://www.infinitematrix.net/stories/shortshorts/kadrey1.html

Number None, Sunday, 1 May 2011 22:23 (nine years ago) link

Loads of stuff here:
http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/index.htm

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Sunday, 1 May 2011 23:13 (nine years ago) link

Ok so I got myself a copy of Zoo City in the end. If anyone is interested, there is a deal on at the publisher's bookstore:

1. Go to angryrobotstore.com
2. Choose 2+ titles.
3. Stick "clarke11" in as the promotion code et voila 50% off.

Only epub unfortunately, but you can use Calibre to convert it into mobi for your Kindle.

ears are wounds, Monday, 2 May 2011 12:43 (nine years ago) link

I had a bad experience with Calibre (possibly not Calibre's fault but I have no intention of reinstalling it to find out) - can anyone recommend any other epub->mobi conversion software?

russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 2 May 2011 13:01 (nine years ago) link

Oops, I thought this was the Kindle thread. I'll ask on the Kindle thread. Sorry for off-topic.

russ conway's game of life (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 2 May 2011 13:02 (nine years ago) link

Calibre is garbage tbh, slow and clunky with a horrible interface, but I think it is just about the only game in town at the moment.

ears are wounds, Monday, 2 May 2011 13:04 (nine years ago) link

Any rec'd sites with entire sf stories posted? They don't have to be downloads, but they do gotta be free (of charge, at least).

― dow, Sunday, May 1, 2011 6:15 PM (Yesterday)


http://www.lexal.net/scifi/scifiction/archive.html

A Bop Gun for Dinosaur (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 May 2011 13:45 (nine years ago) link

that's the one i was trying to remember.

i also found this a few weeks ago: http://www.manybooks.net/categories/SFC . and judging by the covers on a lot of those i'm guessing there's an Astounding Science Fiction pulp archive out there somewhere.

possibly here: http://www.freesfonline.de/Magazines.html (including 22 from greg egan)

koogs, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:30 (nine years ago) link

gp i am v flattered but i generally forget it exists all the time so y'know

has anyone else read the new robert v.s. ridick yet

thomp, Monday, 2 May 2011 14:38 (nine years ago) link

Of course for short fiction dont' forget Strange Horizons (although it is a bit slipstreamey), http://www.strangehorizons.com/

ears are wounds, Monday, 2 May 2011 15:15 (nine years ago) link

I have finished The Book of the Long Sun, and am done with Gene Wolfe. Although there is still (barely) an itch of curiousity that wants me to read Urth of the New Sun and even the Long Sun series, I will no longer following him down his difficult road; I know his style, and his agenda, and neither are for me. Neil Gaiman says he is of the class of writer who "who see no need to point out how clever they are" - I thoroughly disagree, his text wears its mystery on its face, it fairly taunts you with the idea that it is a puzzle, and therefore there is a solution.

I'm sure it can be appreciated just on the surface level, although it's not a style that I particularly enjoy; I'm sure the puzzles could be fun to solve, if you are that way inclined; I'm sure even the ultimate solution may be a wonder to some, but it is anathema to me.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Monday, 2 May 2011 18:48 (nine years ago) link

I suddenly wonder if Richard Kelly is a Gene Wolfe fan... or how many New Sun fans also love Donnie Darko.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Monday, 2 May 2011 18:57 (nine years ago) link

Take that Gene Wolfe. I was just about to start The Book of the New Sun too :(

Number None, Monday, 2 May 2011 19:16 (nine years ago) link

20 pages into Perdido Street Station and I can't face the remaining 800, should I?

Gully Foyle is my name (Matt #2), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:22 (nine years ago) link

Love New Sun, hate Donnie Darko. If you are taking a poll or anything.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 May 2011 19:33 (nine years ago) link

Too cold a comparison, huh? Maybe it's cause I was reading a New Sun wiki. A special kind of madness there, naturally, but not one entirely in the minds of its creators, it is born in and sustained by the text.

This is not really a spoiler, but... if someone had told me Wolfe was Catholic - as CS Lewis was Anglican - I probably would never have started.

re: Perdido, I would say it starts as it means to go on.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Monday, 2 May 2011 19:36 (nine years ago) link

Yeah i like Perdido but it you're not digging the ambulatory Cacti and so on at this point i'd cut your losses.

Number None, Monday, 2 May 2011 19:38 (nine years ago) link

Thanks for all the links! I do enjoy the dark profusion of Wolfe's surfaces, although,after the New Sun saga, Soldier In The Mist was where I got off of his (and everybody's) fantasy series bus. Also like freestanding Wolfe, such as Peace and The Death of Doctor Island and Other Stories. If I paid more attention to his agenda, I might not like it. (Liked Donnie Darko alright too.)

dow, Monday, 2 May 2011 23:42 (nine years ago) link

That Isaac Asimov edited book of short short stories above is one of the greatest things ever.

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 10:12 (nine years ago) link

SF Masterworks series, classic or dud? I have a few already, and I guess it's good that this stuff is being published, but I just refrained from buying Greg Bear's Eon as I don't want all my bookshelves to look the same.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:58 (nine years ago) link

Rendezvous with Rama, which i've just finished, was an SF Masterworks. was toying with posting the start of chapter 11, about breasts in space, but i will spare you as it's not 1973 anymore.

koogs, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 13:00 (nine years ago) link

Great selection, terrible covers. The new designs are slightly better than the first time round but it's sad because they had the chance to do something classy with the design considering these are acknowledged classics.

Number None, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 13:05 (nine years ago) link

SF Masterworks: the new sort of yellowy covers are awful. The old ones weren't so bad - at least they retained the original artwork in most cases afaik. I also don't want my bookshelves looking the same, so tend to get alternatives from different publishers wherever possible. A bit lame I guess...

Shame you didn't get on with Book of the New Sun, ledge. I think it is fair to say that if you didn't enjoy that you won't like Book of the Long Sun or the Latro series which are the other fantasy series of his I have read. However, Fifth Head of Cerberus might be worth a look - SF novel, although its really 3 short linked novellas. I've read one of his short story collections as well, Endangered Species. It was pretty good as far as I remember - mix of SF, Fantasy, slipstream, regular fiction.

ears are wounds, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:36 (nine years ago) link

the gollancz sf masterworks? the core list is probably alright. in the previous cladding they'd reached no. 60- or 70-odd so it was a bit obviously just whatever they had the rights for. i doubt there aren't copies of old paperbacks of any of them available for shipping only on amazon, only, though, and do you really care enough that you have to have a mint copy of flowers for algernon?

i just ordered a tad williams novel, oy.

thomp, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:01 (nine years ago) link

i did indeed order a second hand copy of Gateway today, again to avoid the masterworks cover.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:05 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I just get whatever is cheapest tbh - normally though for almost everything there are cheaper second-hand versions available from older publishers. It isn't really about getting mint copies of stuff, it is more about not having an entire bookshelf with the same slightly crappy design.

My version of Gateway is this one:

http://img1.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n0/n2017.jpg

...which is almost identical to the masterworks version but without all the branding stuff.

ears are wounds, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:13 (nine years ago) link

Actually I guess the artwork is the same, but the font, title etc is different.

ears are wounds, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:14 (nine years ago) link

We should start a new rolling annual thread

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 November 2014 04:03 (five years ago) link

Via the new issue of http://news.ansible.uk/a328.html, Raymond Chandler dashes off good microparody of SF, with a prophetic Search handle even:
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/they-pay-brisk-money-for-this-crap.html

dow, Monday, 3 November 2014 16:48 (five years ago) link

Recently read the Malzberg story based on that

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 November 2014 16:51 (five years ago) link

Started The Dark Desccent antho a couple of days ago (in PDF). Am on the 2nd story - John Collier - and enormously impressed with him. Should have read this guy ages ago.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 3 November 2014 19:58 (five years ago) link

Yes, he's very funny. Wonderful description of ghosts and I love that bit where the man consoles the girl by saying they'll talk about birds on twigs, or something like that.

Really love "New Mother" by Lucy Clifford. It has an emotional power because of the naive sweet childlike language and worldview.
I think I'll buy her collection this week, it's supposed to be very good and somewhat unique.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 3 November 2014 21:01 (five years ago) link

The sweetness is also a set-up for suckerpunch (no anesthetics please, we're Victorian)

dow, Monday, 3 November 2014 22:02 (five years ago) link

It's bizarre and kind of scary that she written them for (her own?) children.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 3 November 2014 22:27 (five years ago) link

Philosopher's SF recommendations. Lot of worthy stuff in there, sadly lacking in links to free shit. Makes me think I should buy some Ted Chiang.

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~eschwitz/SchwitzPapers/SF-MasterList-141103-byauthor.htm

ledge, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 12:10 (five years ago) link

You haven't get on the Ted Chiang bandwagon yet?

That list is kind of ho-hum. Nary a deep cut, really, until the "Recommended by One" rubric.

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 12:13 (five years ago) link

True, but it's good to be reminded about shallow cuts from time to time. Like Chiang, think I've read a couple of his and liked them but failed to follow up.

ledge, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 12:17 (five years ago) link

The most recommended directors / TV shows were:

Recommended by 7:

Star Trek: The Next Generation

Recommended by 5:

Christopher Nolan (Memento, The Prestige, Batman: The Dark Knight, Inception)

Recommended by 4:

Ridley Scott (Blade Runner)

lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 21:04 (five years ago) link

i've never read Greg Egan.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 21:08 (five years ago) link

i do want to read the Culture books someday. i have to buy them all first though.

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 21:10 (five years ago) link

jesus, are there really 10 Culture books?

scott seward, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 21:13 (five years ago) link

children get your culture

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 November 2014 22:29 (five years ago) link

It's ok you can skip at least three of them.

ledge, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:34 (five years ago) link

I listened again to a bit of that Jack Vance radio interview I mentioned earlier. With his agitated contrarian streak.

He said on returning to his old favourite romantic poets he found them absurdly flowery and over the top but still enjoyed the more restrained William Blake. Which is odd because I thought Vance never lost his flowery over the topness.

He scoffed at the idea of doing a book about the horror of war. He said it has gone past the point of kicking a dead horse to kicking a burger that used to be a horse.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:19 (five years ago) link

I file Jack Vance next to John "Jack" Ford. I don't look to the person, I just stick to the art.

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:35 (five years ago) link

I just find him funny and interesting enough to read and listen to the very few times he spoken as himself. And as we discussed earlier, he seems to never completely reveal his true views. But I'm willing to believe he likes Ravel, Vivaldi and Jimmy Shand.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:13 (five years ago) link

Reading creepy Polish "psychofantasist" Stefan Brabinski (1877-1936) short fiction collection The Dark Domain--lots of good stuff.

http://thirdeyecinema.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/the_dark_domain.jpg

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 7 November 2014 00:23 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I haven't read Grabinski yet but he is slowly becoming an important figure.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 7 November 2014 00:29 (five years ago) link

Recent purchases I blew probably more money on than I should have and probably won't read for some time...

Mary Elizabeth Braddon - Face In The Glass
Algernon Blackwood - Wolves Of God
Francis Stevens aka Gertrude Barrows Bennett - Citadel Of Fear
Francis Stevens aka Gertrude Barrows Bennett - The Nightmare And Other Tales Of Dark Fantasy
Stephen Jones (editor) - Fearie Tales
Stephen Jones (editor) - Mammoth Best New Horror 25
James Branch Cabell - Nightmare Has Triplets (3 volumes: Smirt, Smith and Smire)
Richard Gavin - At Fear's Altar
Tanith Lee - Hunting The Shadows
Lord Dunsany - Fifty-One Tales
Lord Dunsany - In The Land Of Time And Other Fantasy Tales (Penguin Classics)
James Blish - SF Gateway Omnibus: Black Easter/The Day After Judgement/The Seedling Stars
Robert Silverberg - SF Gateway Omnibus: Nightwings/A Time of Changes/Lord Valentine's Castle
Robert Silverberg - Son Of Man
Paula Guran (editor) - Year's Best Dark Fantasy & Horror 2014
Jean Ray - Malpertuis
Ellen Datlow (editor) - Best Horror Of The Year 6
Abraham Merritt - Metal Monster
Lucy Clifford - Anyhow Stories
Charles Nodier - Smarra/Trilby

Rottensteiner - Fantasy Book: An Illustrated History

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 7 November 2014 02:12 (five years ago) link

I just happened to see a new edition of Red As Blood by Tanith Lee.

Previous covers
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/70/65/598e828fd7a0075987a84110.L.jpg
http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/6/67/RDSBLDRTLS1983.jpg

New cover
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zZ%2BGAPRKL.jpg

But the new version has an extra new tale. If only the cover wasn't so bad.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 7 November 2014 02:27 (five years ago) link

Single volume version of xpost Jeff VanderMeer's Southern Reach trilogy out Nov. 18, worth getting? Info and first pages here: http://fsgworkinprogress.com/southernreachtrilogy/areax.html

dow, Friday, 7 November 2014 21:30 (five years ago) link

Just finished Ramona Ausubel's No One Is Here Except All of Us, which probably gets compared a lot to One Hundred Years of Solitude, with its central, very isolated village, but also drew me back into SF Encyclopedia and Encyclopedia of Fantasy's link-maps of keeps, pocket universes, and polders. It was settled by a far-flung, tiny remnant of the Diaspora, on a tiny bit of land barely connected to the Carpathians, in the bend of a river. The villagers are very adaptable by nature, very stubborn too, so, when they first become aware of the advance of Axis powers, they decide to block out the rest of the world, and start their own.
Yadda yadda, the narrator, who at one point is pegged by another character as always generating the next chapter, proceeds, like her friends, neighbors, and relatives (incl. two sets of parents, both living; starting your world over ain't always pretty) through a profusion of imagery and tiny, unstoppable movements with a logic that's usually pretty clear: she's got a program, a world-building one inside, wherever she goes; ditto the other survivors, each in their own ways.
Not that any of this is easy, but the urgency of the narrator never gets too hectic (even though I'm pretty much sick of first-person narration, esp. the meta-inclined). The poetry of it does get too aphoristic at times, but that's in character, as is the tendency to cute spacey earthy folky imagery, though the author manages to keep most of it in check.
The plotting does depend somewhat on the kindness of strangers, although there are some resident strangers in various parts of the book (even a resident advisor stranger), and the way the characters make themselves useful to each other and themselves can get pretty dicey at any point, in the push and pull of themes, like the worlds and counter-worlds within and without.

dow, Saturday, 8 November 2014 20:54 (five years ago) link

The narrator has to make sense of everything that's happened to her and the ones she cares about, also everything they've done; that's what keeps it from seeming too meta, at least for me.

dow, Saturday, 8 November 2014 21:11 (five years ago) link

Haven't yet figured out if this guy's reviews are useful but he sure has a lot of nice cover art: http://sciencefictionruminations.wordpress.com/

The Clones of Doctor Atomic Dog (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 9 November 2014 14:57 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cwLhPR9jBs

Very interesting panel on forgotten fantasy books, with some good observations (Farah Mendlesohn was the most interesting panelist).

Books discussed:
The Hoojibahs, by Esther Boumphrey, Lutterworth Press, London, 1949
Fancies and Goodnights, by John Collier, Doubleday & Company, Inc., Garden City, 1951
There and Back, by Frank Richardson, Chatto & Windus, London, 1904
The Bayswater Miracle, by Frank Richardson, Chatto & Windus, London, 1903
The Family Witch, by A(nthony) B(erkeley) Cox, Herbert Jenkins, London, 1925
The Professor On Paws, by A.B. Cox, The Dial Press, New York, 1927
Come and Go, by Francis Gaite (pseudonym of Manning Coles), Hodder & Stoughton, 1958
Happy Returns, by Francis Gaite (pseudonym of Manning Coles), Doubleday, 1955
Brief Candles, by Manning Coles, Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1954
Far Traveller, by Francis Gaite (pseudonym of Manning Coles), Hodder and Stoughton, London, 1957
The White Waterfall, by James Francis Dwyer, Doubleday Page & Co, Garden City, NY, 1912
The Outlaws of the Air, by George Chetwynd Griffiths, Tower Publishing Company Limited, London , 1895
Dreadful Sanctuary, by Eric Frank Russell, Fantasy Press, Reading PA, 1951
Sinister Barrier, by Eric Frank Russell, Fantasy Press, Reading, PA, 1948
The Incomplete Enchanter, by L Sprague de Camp, Henry Holt and Company, New York, 1941
"The Murderer", a 1953 short story by Ray Bradbury, published in the collection The Golden Apples of the Sun.
Robots Have No Tails, by Lewis Padgett (pseudonym of Henry Kuttner and Catherine Lucile Moore), Gnome Press Inc., New York, 1952
Mopsa the Fairy, by Jean Ingelow, 1869
Mist and Other Stories, by Richmal Crompton, Hutchinson (London), [1928
The House, by Richmal Crompton, Hodder & Stoughton (London), [1926]
Hieroglyphic Tales, by Horace Walpole, Elkin Mathews (London), 1926
The Anyhow Stories, by Lucy Clifford, Macmillan & Company (London), 1885
My Bones And My Flute, by Edgar Mittelholzer, Secker & Warburg, London, 1955
Lucifer and the Child, by Ethel Mannin, Jarrold & Sons Ltd, London, 1945
Leg-Irons on Wings, by James Francis Dwyer, Georgian House, Melbourne, 1949
Farewell Miss Julie Logan, by J.M. Barrie, Hodder & Stoughton (London), 1932
Mary Rose, by J.M. Barrie, Hodder & Stoughton, London, 1924
Still She Wished for Company, by Margaret Irwin, 1924
These Mortals, by Margaret Irwin, 1925
The Other Side, by Alfred Kubin, Crown Publishers, New York, 1967
Adventures of the Wishing Chair, by Enid Blyton, Newnes, London, 1937
The Wishing Chair Again, by Enid Blyton, Newnes, London, 1950
The Unmeasured Place, John Lamburn, John Murray, 1933

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 November 2014 03:42 (five years ago) link

had a quick look around for the public domain things from that list, slender pickings...

There and Back - https://archive.org/details/thereandback00richgoog
The Bayswater Miracle - missing
The White Waterfall - http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/10862
Outlaws Of The Air - http://www.forgottenfutures.com/game/ff9/outlaw.htm
Mopsa The Fairy - http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32867
Anyhow Stories - https://archive.org/details/anyhowstoriesmor00clifiala

koogs, Monday, 10 November 2014 16:27 (five years ago) link

That is odd, I thought there would be more.

Hartwell chosen a few of the authors he published in Dark Descent. Nice that he picked two of my favourites from the book.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 November 2014 16:42 (five years ago) link

1924 is, i think, the cutoff at the moment, in the US.

koogs, Monday, 10 November 2014 16:52 (five years ago) link

Single volume version of xpost Jeff VanderMeer's Southern Reach trilogy out Nov. 18, worth getting?

worth reading in any format

Brad C., Monday, 10 November 2014 16:52 (five years ago) link

Brief Candles, by Manning Coles, Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1954

any connection to the Zombies tune?

am almost done w Kuttner/Moore collection and have nothing on deck to read after that, time to order some Damon Knight I guess

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 November 2014 19:20 (five years ago) link

and have nothing on deck to read after that

― Οὖτις, Monday, 10 November 2014 19:20

I can't ever imagine a time when I don't have a huge to-read pile, but I'd love if that happened someday. It would make buying new books more exciting.
I think it was maybe 10 years ago the last time I had a clear deck.

The uploader of that forgotten books panel (RB Russell, a writer, musician and publisher of Tartarus books) has quite a few interviews with writers featuring guided tours of their personal book collections. It's quite fun. Reggie Oliver comes from a literary family and has a lot of interesting things to say.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 November 2014 20:27 (five years ago) link

I don't have any money to buy books anymore so I am a) at the mercy of what's available at the library or b) at the mercy of what I can find online for like a dollar

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 November 2014 22:44 (five years ago) link

Also interested in this, apparently big in china, unusually so for science fiction:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/11/books/liu-cixins-the-three-body-problem-is-published-in-us.html?_r=0
excerpts here, haven't read 'em yet:
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/10/read-the-three-body-problem

dow, Monday, 10 November 2014 23:47 (five years ago) link

Οὖτις- do you do public domain ebooks?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 01:18 (five years ago) link

I am against ereaders

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:53 (five years ago) link

I might have some books I can snail mail you, but media mail across country takes what, a month?

The Clones of Doctor Atomic Dog (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:21 (five years ago) link

There's a pretty fair amount of free sf online, like those archived PKD stories I linked upthread. Also in new issues of some online mags, like clarkesworld.

dow, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:38 (five years ago) link

The Locus site can lead to a lotta freebies.

dow, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:39 (five years ago) link

i became a convert to ereading specifically because I couldn't find a copy of Lafferty's Nine Hundred Grandmothers anywhere. Found a big bundled download of several thousand classic sff PDFs and epubs which included the complete lafferty stories, needed something to comfortably read them on, got the cheapest available reader at the time and found I really really liked it.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 18:05 (five years ago) link

BTW, that UK SFF Gateway series has published a 3fer omnibus of my man Blaylock which brings you the 3 finest examples of his inimitable, unparalleled take on antic suburban US magic realism (The Last Coin, The Paper Grail, and All the Bells on Earth). The victorian vein of his career is being pushed so hard now with the "godfather of steampunk" designation that this stuff, his real high watermark, is in danger of being overshadowed. And he is finally writing prolifically again these past few years but only in the victorian mode. Which I totally understand. But I'm glad this non-steam omnibus is out there.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 18:10 (five years ago) link

guys thx for the concern but I will be ok really, I will find something to read don't worry!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 18:29 (five years ago) link

can we start a new thread btw this one is impossible to load

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:35 (five years ago) link

Keep it in the book thread still? There was an agreement on that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 13 November 2014 00:44 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm probably going to get ripped to shreds for this but... did anyone else find The Dispossessed a bit of a slog? I've been forcing myself to finish it (it's not even a very long book) and it just feels endless. Love the premise and the overall idea, but there's something about the deployment of language that isn't working out for me. I'd have thought that by now I'd have a clearer idea of the various characters, but the majority of them feel like empty vessels fulfilling roles. Even Shevek - I mean, I get that maybe the Anarresti are supposed to be a stoic, no-nonsense bunch - but he seems to have very little personality. The only characters who I seem to have any sort of interesting faculties are secondary roles like Sabul and Vea. The distinct lack of action would be fine. I don't need space battles in my sci-fi, but the Dispossessed reads to me like a very thinly-veiled allegory and not much more.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 15:15 (four years ago) link

damn, didn't realise this was an old thread. oh well

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 15:16 (four years ago) link

reposted in the other thread.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 May 2016 15:20 (four years ago) link


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