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sometimes it's really good.

ethan, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

But, lately, it is sometimes not.

Dan I., Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sometimes all the notes give me a headache. I prefer a dense wall of noise. But there is a happy medium.

Keiko, Friday, 1 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Lots is very good. I particularly recommend Louis Prima (for those unfamiliar, the voice of King Louis in The Jungle Book, singing I Wanna Be Like You) in the late-50s when he decided he had to up the energy level to compete with rock 'n' roll.

Martin Skidmore, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I like it smoooooooth. Like butter, or Philadelphia-brand Whipped Cream Cheese.

adam, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Most of it is shit because it's dead.

Julio Desouza, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i like it crazed and manic .

anthony, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't jazz just a bunch of people trying to play stuff that isn't classical music ie trying to play non-western folk harmonies and rhythms and stuff, but not actually realising that and playing western harmonies and rhythms and sometimes, critics even make the mistake of thinking that they look like non-westerners so it mustn't be western music? Why don't people just listen to weird folk music and crazy people and try singing themselves if they want to hear fucked up stuff?

maryann, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Lester? Are you back from the dead?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Jazz is certainly not dead. But it can be boring sometimes. And it can be really, really good.

Jordan, Saturday, 2 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

m -- they do because of CLASS.

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 3 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

music - sometimes it's really good.

I think I'm going to start sending him fifths in order to ensure that ILM remains interesting.

matthew m., Saturday, 9 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread is an embarrassment to ILM, and to the memory of Armstrong, Ayler, Coltrane, Monk, Mingus, Sun Ra and to thousands of other artists. Let's end it here class. Tonight's homework: brush up on the basics: see jazz 101 ....very sad.

Bob, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Bob, the concept of 'sarcasm' appears to elude you.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

amd what about the concept of 'heavy drinking', Ned?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

*hic* How DARE yoush imply that... *collapses*

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ned...still a sucky thread , sarcasm aside. Like I said, let's end it here. Get off the floor, I buy ya one.

Bob

Bob, Sunday, 10 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

sarcasm? mitch is right, i don't even remember posting this.

ethan, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

I thought that there was a long running jazz thread smehwhere but I can't seem to find it. Anyway I've been listening to jazz now for several years after ignoring it my entire life. I bought Wes Montgomery's Smokin' at the Half Note which is really fantastic and I can't say enough good things about it. The band he plays with, the Wyton Kelly Trio, is also (equally) great but Wynton Kelly only seems to have one album and from the cuts I've heard it's worth getting as well. Maybe some recommendations on some things Wynton has been involved with? Also any jazz stuff you might like post about.

brownie, Friday, 12 December 2008 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

This one with the annoying title (sorry)?--

"If That Arm Heals, It Ought To Be Broken Again" 2008 Jazz D Minor Bags Thread

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 12 December 2008 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

i think he's on hank mobley's soul station, which is one of my all-time faves. there are also some live miles davis records from when he was in the band.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 12 December 2008 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

The band he plays with, the Wyton Kelly Trio, is also (equally) great but Wynton Kelly only seems to have one album and from the cuts I've heard it's worth getting as well. Maybe some recommendations on some things Wynton has been involved with?
― brownie, Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Miles Davis at the Blackhawk. Seriously.

Also he's on one track of Kind of Blue and either some or all of Someday My Prince Will Come

Indiespace Administratester (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah, Soul Station is really good.

Indiespace Administratester (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

Don't forget this thread for some background: What's with that constant cymbal tapping in jazz drumming?

Ruudside Picnic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 December 2008 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

there's a record Wynton Kelly made with Steve Lacy on Status that is pretty good.

ian, Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:57 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

90s sax production sux

yes that means u, branford

it ain't trickin if yo gotti (The Reverend), Saturday, 24 April 2010 11:11 (ten years ago) link

which doesn't mean "Some Cow Fonque" isn't 80x classic, but still

it ain't trickin if yo gotti (The Reverend), Saturday, 24 April 2010 11:13 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

does anyone know of a good blog or site where they might discuss certain bits of jazz music in depth, but maybe in not too academic a way? I'd love to read a breakdown of Lonely Woman or Pharoah's Dance or something, but not assuming I know a great deal about technique and theory?

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Monday, 20 October 2014 08:59 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

hey can someone help me find the following jazz album: cover is a picture of the artist reading an economics textbook (Samuelson Economics) as the album art? called 'college cool' or something to that effect

flopson, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 01:54 (four years ago) link

I don't know what it is, but I'm lolling

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 28 October 2015 03:14 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

hey flopson i realize this post is from four years ago but i think this might be the album you meant?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rah_(Mark_Murphy_album)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 7 November 2019 07:07 (six months ago) link

Love that album. Hadn’t looked closely at the cover, and never understood the meaning of the title until now, d’oh!

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2019 10:16 (six months ago) link

great genre

ogmor, Thursday, 7 November 2019 10:17 (six months ago) link

love jazz cats

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 November 2019 18:33 (six months ago) link

🤗

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:43 (six months ago) link

count me in as a 'jazz nut'

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 7 November 2019 19:55 (six months ago) link

Money isn't the only issue musicians have with Jazz At Five: Moran says that event organizers chastised pianist Ben Sidran for criticizing Scott Walker during a performance at the series a few years ago.

I was very confused by this sentence until I realized which Scott Walker they presumably meant.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:29 (six months ago) link

The original version of "My Favourite Things" on the session featured hip lyrics, including lines like "Ol' Ernie Wilkins he sure gives you wings", but these new lyrics were deemed inappropriate by composer Richard Rodgers and as a result Riverside Records/Mark Murphy were asked to substitute a 'straight' shorter version of it, but with the same arrangement. Another track left off the original album is "I'll Be Seeing You" for much the same reason.

really want to hear these alt takes

budo jeru, Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:45 (six months ago) link

The original version of "My Favourite Things" on the session featured hip lyrics, including lines like "Ol' Ernie Wilkins he sure gives you wings", but these new lyrics were deemed inappropriate by composer Richard Rodgers and as a result Riverside Records/Mark Murphy were asked to substitute a 'straight' shorter version of it, but with the same arrangement. Another track left off the original album is "I'll Be Seeing You" for much the same reason.

really want to hear these alt takes

budo jeru, Thursday, 7 November 2019 20:45 (six months ago) link

love that jazz

marcos, Thursday, 7 November 2019 21:04 (six months ago) link

great stuff! its like dark jazz but jazzier and not as dark

chips moomin (unregistered), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:37 (six months ago) link

mile's davis

chips moomin (unregistered), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:38 (six months ago) link

https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2018/09/08/11/09/jazz-3662296_960_720.png

tylerw, Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:43 (six months ago) link

sorry but I prefer jass

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 7 November 2019 22:50 (six months ago) link

when it comes to jass, I love all 5 hots

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 8 November 2019 03:12 (six months ago) link

👐

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2019 13:24 (six months ago) link

A lot of people say they like jazz, but I appreciate jazz on a much deeper level than most. For example, when listening to jazz I also pay attention to the notes that are NOT being played.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 8 November 2019 17:38 (six months ago) link

one thing I like about this thread is the presence of so many jazzbos

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:19 (six months ago) link

pfft I pay attention to the notes not being played even when I'm NOT listening to jazz

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:50 (six months ago) link

When I'm teaching writing I show a picture of hot Miles and tell them to use the words that aren't there,

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Friday, 8 November 2019 18:53 (six months ago) link

Jazz, bah! They're all just making it up as they go along!

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:00 (six months ago) link

👍👍👍👍

calzino, Friday, 8 November 2019 20:47 (six months ago) link

This thread and those linked within lead me to believe that jazz is perhaps the genre that ILM knows the least about.

Slim is an Alien, Friday, 8 November 2019 21:09 (six months ago) link

Your post has certainly compelled me to study jazz... if only I knew where to start!

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 8 November 2019 21:36 (six months ago) link

You can't learn the jazz from schoolbooks, I've heard.

fetter, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:14 (six months ago) link

If you have to ask, you'll never know.

Brad C., Friday, 8 November 2019 22:19 (six months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuKhccJi_GI

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 9 November 2019 00:07 (six months ago) link

jazz cruises c/d

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 01:09 (six months ago) link

When someone is first setting out to study jazz I usually recommend they start with the classic miles davies album ‘Kind & Blue’

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:20 (six months ago) link

so wut?

quinn morgendorffer stan account (morrisp), Saturday, 9 November 2019 16:28 (six months ago) link

Kinda bae

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:26 (six months ago) link

milquetoast numpts that keep putting it on stupid fucking lists or designer clothes chain stores using it as instore music in the 90's aside. kinda blue is still great music, nothing can make me diss it.

calzino, Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:28 (six months ago) link

Kind of what now?

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 9 November 2019 20:20 (six months ago) link

milquetoast numpts that keep putting it on stupid fucking lists or designer clothes chain stores using it as instore music in the 90's aside. kinda blue is still great music, nothing can make me diss it.

I’m the one that has to die when it’s time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 November 2019 21:09 (six months ago) link

*horse clops*

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 9 November 2019 21:13 (six months ago) link

Sing on, brother

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 November 2019 21:43 (six months ago) link

Ah, but does ILM know where Miles learned music? There is only one correct answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZyu8jYw90

jmm, Saturday, 9 November 2019 22:07 (six months ago) link

Sunday forecast says it will be jazzy

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 10 November 2019 18:28 (six months ago) link

The sound that jazz instruments make when being manipulated by jazz players, for the delight of jazz respondents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB6Ix1sw0iI

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 10 November 2019 18:39 (six months ago) link

If I had to pick my favorite jazz instrument, it would probably be a tie between the tubs and the licorice stick

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Sunday, 10 November 2019 21:41 (six months ago) link

instruments are ok but gimme some good scatting any day, just some shoobedy boopedy bop, you know, real jazzy jazz

j., Sunday, 10 November 2019 23:05 (six months ago) link

six months pass...

why do i all of the sudden have the urge to listen to jazz all the time

treeship., Monday, 18 May 2020 18:42 (one week ago) link

it's good. i think the "looseness" of jazz music, the fact that it can accommodate stray notes et cetera and get back on track, makes it a psychologically/emotionally palliative genre

treeship., Monday, 18 May 2020 18:43 (one week ago) link

Because sometimes it's really good.

xp

pomenitul, Monday, 18 May 2020 18:43 (one week ago) link

i recommend the album blume by nerija, a london group that i think is all women

treeship., Monday, 18 May 2020 18:50 (one week ago) link

ok a quick google search reveals that there are dudes in this group too. nevertheless it is a good album

treeship., Monday, 18 May 2020 18:55 (one week ago) link

I've been listening to a lot of jazz lately, the dynamic range and amount of actual human playing & variation in the music is soothing.

Sample & loop-based music can be soothing in its own way too, the hypnotic uniformity, but I've been going back and forth.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 18 May 2020 19:15 (one week ago) link

Really loving Blue Note lately, the playing of course but really the sound of the recordings. Reading articles about Rudy Van Gelder was a huge lights-on moment, that he was in no way trying to capture a naturalistic recording of the musicians, but to make it sound more exciting. Or to make up for the loss of excitement that comes from not seeing it live, and that it wasn't an accident. That's the problem I have with so many modern jazz records, that they try to treat it like classical music and any interesting tones are taboo.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 18 May 2020 19:20 (one week ago) link

OTM. Once I was talking to a friend of mine about this problem and complimenting him on the sound of one of his recordings and he told "I gave the engineer a Jeff 'Tain' Watts CD," *makes hand gesture to illustrate this transfer* "and told him, make it sound like THAT!"

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:03 (one week ago) link

there is this track on the new Anna Högberg Attack album that is pure golden era Blue Note without being a bad pastiche - it's so good.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:09 (one week ago) link

Yeah, if it's the track I'm thinking of, in my review I compared it to Cecil Taylor's Conquistador!, one of the only two albums he made for Blue Note.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:14 (one week ago) link

why do i all of the sudden have the urge to listen to jazz all the time

I'm doing this too, maybe it's quarantine related. The "cerebral-ness" gives my brain some pathways to wander while spending time mainly at home.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 18:48 (one week ago) link


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