"If That Arm Heals, It Ought To Be Broken Again" 2008 Jazz D Minor Bags Thread

I didn't even know who this cat was, but based on his resume I'll be checking him out real soon http://www.jazzcornertalk.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?p=708875

That should say: Earl May R.I.P.

To find this thread (and the other one) search title for "jazz d"

http://www.woebot.com/2007/12/jazz_1.html

Woebot on his jazz vinyl collection

Completely random purchases I just made out of the J&R Blue Note bargain bin:
Eliane Elias Plays Jobim
The Magnificent Thad Jones
Conquistador!- Cecil Taylor

For all the Bags in the house:
http://images.umvd.com/aec/Toenails/a6ef4a52782b4d4ea0645ac83d183633.jpg

I've been digging on my jazz vinyl lately. Some live Adderley Bros. and Mongo Santameria records that I don't think are available anymore...not classics, but nice Saturday morning listening.

Also this on vinyl, which is fucking rad.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51a5QE1QfpL._AA240_.jpg

I heard this in the car over the weekend
http://www.thebottomend.co.uk/artists/Azar_Layuca.jpg

Some live Adderley Bros.

Nippon Soul?

No, although if Nippon Soul is what I'm thinking of then that's some hot shit.

I guess I have At the Lighthouse.

Did you know that Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones had four illegitimate sons and they were all named Julian after Cannonball?

Maybe there were only two of them.

Just heard a track off the latest McCoy Tyner Quartet recorded live at Yoshi's in 2006. It was "Walk Spirit, Talk Spirit" and it has a kind of "Love Supreme" bassline. I'd gladly check out the rest of it.

http://www.mccoytyner.com/

that Ellington Anatomy of a Murder soundtrack is great, and I think the film is playing at Film Forum now.

Just heard a track off the latest McCoy Tyner Quartet recorded live at Yoshi's in 2006. It was "Walk Spirit, Talk Spirit" and it has a kind of "Love Supreme" bassline. I'd gladly check out the rest of it.

-- James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, January 8, 2008 4:29 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

You should also hear the magnificent "Walk Spirit, Talk Spirit" from Enlightenment. One of my all time favorites.

And I don't think anybody linked this yet (forgive me if I'm wrong). The 2007 Voice jazz poll.

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0801,davis,78767,22.html

The recent McCoy Tyner Mosaic Select 3CD box is excellent, and highly recommended.

that Ellington Anatomy of a Murder soundtrack is great, and I think the film is playing at Film Forum now.
Missed it. Last weekend.

You should also hear the magnificent "Walk Spirit, Talk Spirit" from Enlightenment. One of my all time favorites.
I think I remember really digging this song at when he played a free show at the Clinton Castle (?) in Battery Park a few years ago. I kind of prefer modern McCoy in Middle Eastern mode to his more painterly, Bill Evans-y stuff.

Yeah...Enlightenment is anything but Bill Evans-y. Very aggressive. It's amazing he didn't break the piano.

My favorite 2008 jazz d record so far: Cuong Vu's Vu-Tet. Unreal sounds coming out of a trumpet, best rhythm section going.

Also great: Ryan Blotnick, François Ingold Quartet, some Italian guitar quintet thing (gotta look up the name). Album I wish I'd heard in 2007 as it would have been on my top ten list: Josh Roseman's New Constellations Live in Vienna, severely art-damaged jazz-ska with humor and edge.

By the way I don't know if you d bags know but we have a thing going at Cave17.com, come check us out, I will review all these jazz discs eventually. Spread the word, too, we need it real bad.

Is that Cave as in Caveau de la Huchette?

Or is "Cave 17" the title of an unreleased Johnny Paycheck song?

Here's a hint: Mel Brooks.

2,000 Year Old Man?

ding

Was that where the ladies were?

http://www.woebot.com/2007/12/jazz_1.html

Woebot on his jazz vinyl collection

-- curmudgeon, Monday, January 7, 2008 4:40 PM

ok good stuff for the most part but

"In a Silent way" must be the most perfect imagining of a Minimal Jazz.

ffs

Max Roach's birthday today.

Would have been 84.

http://www.engadget.com/photos/ces-2008-product-names-best-of-the-worst/575941/

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I keep hearing this groovy version of "I Never Knew Love Like This Before" by The Deep Blue Organ Trio.

Already said this on the vinyl thread, but other day I got:

Trident - McCoy Tyner
Reqiuem: Complete Atlantic - Lennie Tristano
Joe Henderson in Japan - Joe Henderson (duh)
Concert by the Sea - Cal Tjader

Requiem is everything I wanted it to be, Trident rips and is exactly the Tyner I was looking for when I bought the wrong handful of 70s albums last year. The Tjader isn't what I was hoping for (wanted more of a latin soul feel to it, but this is kinda MJQ stuff), but is still good.

The Joe Henderson is the first Henderson record I've heard, it was all rep up to now, and holy shit I am loving this guy. I'm gonna have to see if we have a S/D thread on him.

lol oh wait i started one

S/D: Joe Henderson

really, really great piece on miles davis dissing oscar peterson, the blues in jazz, etc.

(at do the math)

That was awesome. Only thing is he doesn't mention "Song For My Father" or "Watermelon Man." Maybe he gets around to them in the footnotes, which I haven't read yet.

pretty interesting article, but way too effin' long. i like this quote from davis: "I don't know what they mean when they say 'swing hard' anyway." Doesn't that kind of sound like Xhuxk or Tom E talking?

No, because xhuxk would immediately supply one hundred exemplars of his own understanding of what the word is supposed to mean.

This article was especially interesting to me because I just read through the Ben Ratliff Coltrane book and this does a better job than BR does of, um, healing old wounds.

i recently picked up a nice vinyl copy of The Cannonball Adderly Quintet in San Francisco, I think it's his first thing after leaving the legendary Miles band w/Coltrane...from like 59...bros down with Nat.

Really nice stuff, very gospel and R&B influenced, almost a Ray Charles feel to some of the piano rhythm parts, but yeah I think it's a little poppy and breezy and got dissed for being so at the time, like he'd sold out the hardco-ah scene, but I think it's great, very fun and ingratiating w/o seeming corny.

Also got "Inception" by the McCoy Tyner Trio, his first deal as well, nice sealed copy of a late 80s Impluse! reissue, very nice stuff as well.

He learned that and runs it into the ground worse than Billy Taylor.
Ha, you got to hear a lot of both of these guys recently since, as noted above, sort of, Billy Taylor's bass player passed away shortly after OP.

Kind of a hilarious article here: http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=28260

I stayed in one of these resorts and it's not so bad (especially with kids), so dude is being kind of a drama queen. But his research into Mexico's hate/hate affair with jazz is pretty amazing, and I like how he is willing to tear new ones for lazy schmuck artists.

Is that the guy who has all the theory lessons on the web?

idk, how do i shot web?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.

No, the other guy is Marc Sabatella.

New Rudresh Mahanthappa sounds like it might be worth checking out.

Listening to some older Ralph Petersen Fot'et. Why isn't this band better loved?

some recent jazz purchases:
motian/frisell/lovano -- time and time again
nice stuff! only know a little of frisell's oeuvre, but i like this a lot. are there other recordings by this trio worth seeking out? was thinking about getting the motian/frisell/ron carter disc too.

bobby hutcherson -- head on
yow! from 1970 or so. kinda bitches brew-y in a big band avant-fusion way. actually, the bonus tracks might be better than the album itself. funkier anyway. got harold land on it too, so that is good.

Art Blakey & Jazz Messengers -- Free For All
can't believe i hadn't heard this one yet, but what the hey, art blakey's got like a gazillion records. wayne shorter, freddie hubbard, curtis fuller, reggie workman all going for broke. intense! similar to coltrane's quartet but maybe a little more swinging?

motian/frisell/lovano -- time and time again
nice stuff! only know a little of frisell's oeuvre, but i like this a lot. are there other recordings by this trio worth seeking out? was thinking about getting the motian/frisell/ron carter disc too.

I love this trio a lot. Monk in Motian, esp (assists from Geri Allen on one or two tracks.)

i like that band

xp, ralph peterson i mean

I think I like Frisell best when he's paired up with Don Byron, though. Couple albums with each cat as leader and the other guy in his band.

More xey postey

cool, will check out monk in motian. not sure that i entirely GET what this trio is doing yet, but it sure sounds nice.

A related question

Motian:

Moe-shun (aka Motion)?
Mo-tee-an?
Mo-tie-an?
something else entirely?

ha, i thought it was just pronounced "Motion" but now that you mention it ... i have no idea. you know, i have no idea what that guy has played on other than this frisell stuff and bill evans' trio.

Oh man! He and Charlie Haden were kind of joined at the hip for a while there. Check out the Liberation Music Orchestra discs - big bands (arrangements and conducting by Carla Bley) with freeish bits, latin bits, straight up heartwrenching lyrical bits....

ohhh, did not realize that he was the drummer on those records. have always wanted to check that stuff out, but have never really been sure where to start.

Whoops, I just looked at Wikipedia, and Andrew Cyrille is the drummer on the first LMO album, from 1968. But he's a badass, too.

New book out today by Ted Gioia about the Delta Blues which looks like it was almost titled "How a Jazz D-Minor Bag Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Delta Blues."

Motian pronounces it like the word motion but should be pronounced Mo-tee-an.

i don't think you can be wrong about your own name?

^^^

I'm trying to remember what I heard Maxine Gordon call him the last time I saw him, but I think she just referred to him as "my, my, ..." and made some kind of give-me-a-hug gesture with her arms.

Actually it might have been that other people pronounce it Mo-tee-un but it's actually "motion", it was a while ago that I read whatever it was. Plenty of people get their names wrong, Ralph Macchio from Karate Kid for instance pronounces his surname incorrectly if some interview I saw with him on television is anything to go by.

What am I saying? Her name is Lorraine.

this sounds interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/arts/music/22berger.html?ref=arts

Does anyone have anything to say about Fred Hersch? I've had a few of his trio albums in heavy rotation lately. I really know nothing about the guy, but he's totally great. Is he sort of slept on?

Fred Hersch

GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OR TWO OF AN ESPECIALLY GOOD OR INTERESTING:

1. Movie score. "Prizzi’s Honor" (Alex North); "Altered States" (John Corigliano); "City Lights" (Charles Chaplin)
2. TV theme. "The Wild Wild West"
3. Melody. Aria from Cantata “Wachet Auf” (Bach), "Miyako" (Wayne Shorter), "Tomorrow Is The Question" (Ornette Coleman)
4. Harmonic language. 4-part writing (string quartets, choral music)
5. Rhythmic feel. “Serpentine Fire” (Earth, Wind & Fire); “Big Stuff” (Peter Gabriel); “Aqui Oh!” (Toninho Horta)
6. Hip-hop track. (no answer)
7. Classical piece. Brahms Piano Trio #1 in B major; Stravinsky “Dumbarton Oaks” Concerto; Brandenberg Concerti
8. Smash hit. (no answer)
9. Jazz album. Sonny Rollins “Live at the Village Vanguard”; “Mingus,Mingus, Mingus, Mingus”; Thelonious Monk “Alone in San Francisco”
10. Non-American folkloric group. Le Mystere des Voix Bulgares
11. Book on music. “Glenn Gould: Music and Mind” (Geoffrey Paysant); Stravinsky “Poetics of Music”

BONUS QUESTIONS:

A) Name an surprising album (or albums) you loved when you were developing as a musician: something that really informs your sound but that we would never guess in a million years: Joni Mitchell “Blue”; Stevie Wonder “Talking Book”;

B) Name a practitioner (or a few) who play your instrument that you think is underrated: Art Lande, John Taylor, Frederic Rzewski

C) Name a rock or pop album that you wish had been a smash commercial hit (but wasn’t, not really): (no answer)

D) Name a favorite drummer, and an album to hear why you love that drummer: Elvin Jones “A Love Supreme”

RIP Tony Reedus.

What a way to go.

Has anybody heard the new Spring Heel Jack album? I like the sound of it, based on brief clips.

yusef lateef is playing in mpls tomorrow nite, might go but it's really spendy...but anyway the city pages did an article on him and this quote made me LOL:

"Jazz is defined as doggerel, skullduggery, poppycock, coquetry, sexual intercourse," he said recently from his home in Massachusetts. "It has nothing to do with what I do."

^^^that has everything to do with what i do

Freddie Hubbard is in critical condition.

Although some seem to say he is improving.

just picked up Song X by Ornette/Methany. WOW.

Denardo & DeJohnette make a hell of a team.

where's the news about freddie hubbard? can't find anything.

http://www.jazz.com/
http://speakeasy.jazzcorner.com/speakeasy/showthread.php?s=d0f4ca254e9cc507c94fd495371712c2&p=791839#post791839

ah, yeah, thanks. found this too: "Freddie has been in ICU since the night before Thanksgiving due to a heart attack. since that time, he has made remarkable progress but still has a long way to go. he is now awake and alert, according to the reports i've received from a friend who has visited him almost daily."
guess he's not even that old ... well, best wishes, freddie. definitely an amazing musician who has played with the cream of the crop ...

http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2008/12/steve-lacy-on-monk.html

Awesome.

is this he thread where we ask what makes miguel zenon a Latin jazz guy?

No, that's this thread Latin Jazz: Generic Thread Forever

but, while i would like to better understand the latin roots in his music, i don't think its description should be so limited or defined

I thought that there was a long running jazz thread smehwhere but I can't seem to find it. Anyway I've been listening to jazz now for several years after ignoring it my entire life. I bought Wes Montgomery's Smokin' at the Half Note which is really fantastic and I can't say enough good things about it. The band he plays with, the Wyton Kelly Trio, is also (equally) great but Wynton Kelly only seems to have one album and from the cuts I've heard it's worth getting as well. Maybe some recommendations on some things Wynton has been involved with? Also any jazz stuff you might like post about.

― brownie, Friday, December 12, 2008 5:50 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok, I found this thread

wynton is great on the Miles Davis stuff, obviously, but also on a bunch of Hank Mobley Blue Note dates ...

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If you lose it again, just search for "jazz d"

yeah, Jordan gave me the Hank Mobley tip. Never heard him. Man, there's a lot of stuff out there.

I also picked up the Charlie Rouse Bossanova Bacchanal which is also good but the last song that was tacked on (a straight jazz tune not from the Bossanova sessions apparently) is a real stunner. I'm gathering he never did anything else as a bank leader besides that song which is a real shame.

band leader

just bought some records from a friend:

Mal Waldron (feat steve lacy) - Hard Talk --- fucking WOW

Lee Morgan - The Cooker

Art Pepper - Smack Up

Dexter Gordon - Dexter Calling

all really great stuff

The new Joshua Redman album, Compass is pretty damn good. Between this and 2007's Back East, he's on a sort of mini-roll. The new one features him as the sole horn, fronting bassists Larry Grenadier and Reuben Rogers and drummers Brian Blade and Gregory Hutchinson. A few tracks feature a straight saxophone trio (Grenadier/Blade or Rogers/Hutchinson), others feature both bass players and one of the drummers, and a couple feature all five musicians at once. Coming out on Nonesuch next month; at 13 tracks in 72 minutes, it's about five tracks and 25 minutes too long, but I can't honestly say which ones I'd cut, so: recommended.

that sounds good, i was wondering where gregory hutchinson's been at. i love him on christian mcbride's "a family affair" (awesome record).

Maybe somebody should start a new thread. I tried to find a title here but couldn't pick one: http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2008/12/steve-lacy-on-monk.html

"if you don't want to play, tell a joke or dance" or "let's lift the bandstand!!"

You've got it!

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