It's not looking good, is it?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link
The built-in redundancy of these lists drives me nuts. It HAS to be one artist-one album. I mean what is the sense in having two Pulp, two Swide and two of the 'britpop' Blur albums in there, when so little new ground is covered between each pair. They're all shit records anyway, but forgodsake CHOOSE between them Likewise Led Zep II and IV. I can see the sense in Bowie having say Ziggy and Low in there, maybe...but not Ziggy and Hunky Dory.
I'd have Soft Machine, Cream, Buggles, Yardbirds, Adverts, Sandie Shaw, The Move, Leftfield, Floyd in there.
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Kirsty McColl.
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Actually, I haven't really read it in so long I don't know if they're being as bullish as they were in the Britpop years w/r/t sidelining all other music that is not guitar-pop-rock in origin.
It's more that they're just (as Nick put it) re-writing history via ommission of all that "other" stuff (electronics, women, black music) and hoping it's readers are dumb enough not to notice.
I actually feel like they've gone too far with it for even the stereotypical 17 year old in Doncaster not to feel like their intelligence is being insulted this time... but time will tell!
xpost - Dr.C, I'm probably just trying to convince myself (and it hasn't worked) that this list is irrelevant, and doesn't need dissecting. Trust me it gets my goat too!!
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not sure of all of that.
They have some major flaw, some of which these post have pointed out but to totally dismiss all of it is rather hollow.
They realize the brillance of Super Furry Animals but forgot the Boo Raldeys so I have some major concerns to do dismiss the whole is list is a cop out, IMO.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
But when the methodology has been so transparently rigged... The whole thing loses a credibility which is kind of important to your (my) belief in the honesty of the process.
I mean the Q list makes more 'sense' than this, and the bias is understandable because it's a naturally occuring one. This NME list is like a political statement.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link
We are coming from the same place, just going about it differently.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link
RUBBISH.
― beaux knee (boney), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
No John Martyn either.
No pop either...
seems british means... things twenty something men like or were told to like.
― Danny boy, Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Obvious, but OTM (and the rest of it too).
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link
1. The list pretends The Beatles never existed2. At least half of the albums on the list are by African American acts.
Better realise you'll never see a list like that.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Danny boy
Great minds think the same, ect.
I'm such a fan that I think three albums from the 90's are some of the best music ever made, yes ever. Over the years I realize that not many people share the same belief but they are the best band of the 90's. No not for everyone but who the hell are as creative and took the chances that they did and succeeded more time than not?
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Do I hear the crunch crunch of jackboots?
Anyway, if I made a list I'd probly exclude the Beatles because why not?
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Also nb shocking lack of VdGG, pink floyd, yes, genesis etc, despite there supposedly being a critical re-evaluation of pr*g in the last few years. Still a 4-letter word @ nme towers, eh.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link
1. Both are clearly too long, partly as a result of the songs being too long2. Both are among those very few records I can think of where the term "overproduced" makes sense.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link
And if you want metal albums in the list, then read Kerrang.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Observer Music Monthly Top 100 British Albums
Best British Albums Ever Poll.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Even you can't say Oasis >>> Beatles surely??
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Kerrang! The 100 Best British Rock Albums Ever!
As Voted By The Readers – 1ssue #1044 - Feb 19 2005
1. Black Sabbath – Black Sabbath - 19702. Iron Maide – Number Of The Beast – 19823. Sex Pistols – Never Mind The Bollocks… - 19774. Led Zeppelin – IV – 19715. Black Sabbath – Paranoid – 19706. Muse – Absolution – 20037. The Clash – London Calling – 19798. Queen – Sheer Heart Attack – 19749. Iron Maiden – 198010. Manic Street Preachers – The Holy Bible – 199411. Led Zeppelin – Physical Graffiti – 197512. Judas Priest – British Steel – 198013. Def Leppard – Hysteria – 198714. Black Sabbath – Vol IV – 197215. The Darkness – Permission To Land – 200316. Ozzy Osbourne – Blizzard Of Oz – 198017. The Wildhearts – Earth Vs The Wildhearts – 199318. Lostprophets – Start Something – 200419. Queen – A Night At The Opera – 197520. Muse – Origin Of Symmetry – 200121. Ash – Free All Angels – 200122. Motorhead – Ace Of Spades – 198023. Stereophonics – Performance And Cocktails – 199924. Manic Street Preachers – Everything Must Go – 199625. Feeder – Echo Park – 200126. Led Zeppelin – II – 196927. Cradle Of Filth – Cruelty And The Beast – 199828. Iron Maden – Brave New World – 200029. The Clash – The Clash – 197730. Funeral For A Friend – Casually Dressed And Deep In Conversation – 200331. Therapy? – Troublegum – 199432. Feeder – Comfort In Sound – 200333. Ozzy Osbourne – Diary Of A Madman – 198134. Deep Purple – Machine Head – 197235. The Dammed – Machine Gun Etiquette – 197936. Def Leppard – Pyromania – 198337. Hundred Reasons – Ideas Above Our Station - 200238. Pink Floyd – Dark Side Of The Moon – 197339. The Prodigy – Fat Of The Land – 199740. Muse – Showbiz – 199941. Led Zeppelin – Led Zeppelin – 196942. Manic Street Preachers – Generation Terrorists – 199243. Ash – 1977 – 199644. Iron Maiden –Killers – 198145. Pitchshifter – Www.Pitchifter.Com – 199846. Judas Priest – Screaming For Vengeance – 198247. Idlewild – Hope Is Important – 199848. Biffy Clyro – Infinity Land – 200449. Reef – Glow – 199750. Napalm Death – Scum – 198751. Lost Prophets – The Fake Sound Of Progress – 200152. Saxon – Wheels Of Steel – 198053. The Cult – Electric – 198754. Skunk Anansie – Paranoid And Sunburnt – 199555. Bush – Sixteen Stone – 199456. Deep Purple – Deep Purple In Rock – 197057. ‘A’ – Hi Fi Serious – 200258. Hell Is For Heroes – The Neon Handshake – 200359. Whitesnake – 1987 – 198760. Terrorvision – How To Make Friend And Influence People – 199461. Free – Fire And Water – 197062. Led Zeppelin – Houses Of The Holy – 197363. Black Sabbath – Master Of Reality – 197164. Judas Priest – Stained Class – 197865. Idlewild – 100 Broken Windows – 200066. Skunk Anansie – Stoosh – 199667. Killing Joke – Killing Joke - 198068. Venom – Black Metal – 198269. Iron Monkey – Iron Monkey – 199770. The Wildhearts – P.H.U.Q. – 199571. Motorhead – Overkill – 197972. Queen – Queen II – 197473. Feeder – Yesterday Went Too Soon – 199974. Rainbow – Rising – 197675. Sisters Of Mercy – Floodland – 198776. Therapy? – Nurse – 199277. Biffy Clyro – Blackened Sky – 200278. Godflesh – Streetcleaner – 199079. Earthone9 – Arc’tan’gent – 200080. Bush – Razorblade Suitcase – 199781. Stereophonics – Word Gets Around – 199782. 3 Colours Red – Pure – 199783. Cathedral – The Ethereal Mirror – 199384. Thunder – Backstreet Symphony – 199085. Raging Speedhorn – Raging Speedhorn – 200086. Paradise Lost – Draconian Times – 199587. Feeder – Polythene – 199788. Stiff Little Fingers – Inflammable Material – 197989. ‘A’ – ‘A’ Vs Monkey Kong – 199990. Discharge – Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing – 198291. The Ruts – The Crack – 197992. Fudge Tunnel – Hate Songs In E Minor – 199193. Baby Chaos – Love Your Self Abuse – 199694. Carcass – Symphonies Of Sickness – 198995. Gang Of Four – Entertainment – 197996. Orange Goblin – Time Travelling Blues – 199897. The Exploited – Troops Of Tomorrow – 198298. Cradle Of Filth – Dusk And Her Embrace – 199699. Anathema – A Fine Day To Exit – 2001100. Therapy? – Infernal Love – 1995
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Geir while you may not read magazines like Hip Hop Connection and Touch I would at least have thought you would be aware of them.
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Of course he is. How else would he know where to send the nailbombs to?
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
It is not something to take seriously unless you are 18 and smoke pot everyday.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link
That list or the actual Kerrang magazine?
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link
1. my bloody valentine - loveless2. rolling stones - let it bleed3. radiohead - kid a4. joy division - unknown pleasures5. stone roses - the stone roses6. radiohead - ok computer7. david bowie - hunky dory8. pulp - different class9. new order - technique10. beatles - revolver11. tricky - maxinquaye12. rolling stones - exile on main st13. joy division - closer14. rolling stones - sticky fingers15. pet shop boys - very16. magnetic fields - 69 love songs17. dexy's midnight runners - searching for the young soul rebels18. david bowie - the rise and fall of ziggy stardust...19. boards of canada - music has the right to children20. orbital - in sides 21. pet shop boys - behaviour22. pulp - his n' hers23. beatles - rubber soul24. clash - london calling25. massive attack - blue lines26. beatles - sgt peppers lonely hearts club band27. kate bush - the hounds of love28. happy mondays - pills n' thrills n' bellyache29. scritti politti - cupid and psyche 8530. primal scream - screamadelica31. portishead - dummy32. human league - dare33. boards of canada - geogaddi34. abc - lexicon of love35. smiths - the queen is dead36. pet shop boys - please37. radiohead - the bends38. morrissey - vauxhall and i39. scritti politti - provision40. roxy music - roxy music41. roxy music - for your pleasure42. pil - metal box43. new order - movement44. kate bush - the dreaming45. blur - parklife46. kinks - village green preservation society47. underworld - dubnobasswithmyheadman48. klf - chill out49. david bowie - low50. streets - original pirate material51. smiths - hatful of hollow52. radiohead - amnesiac53. pink floyd - wish you were here54. clash - sandinista!55. stereolab - emperor tomato ketchup56. radiohead - hail to the thief57. pink floyd - dark side of the moon58. pet shop boys - actually59. saint etienne - so tough60. gang of four - entertainment61. chemical brothers - dig your own hole62. massive attack - mezzanine63. spiritualized - ladies and gentlemen...64. madness - one step beyond65. dizzee rascal - boy in da corner66. aphex twin - selected ambient works volume 267. saint etienne - foxbase alpha68. led zeppelin - led zeppelin II69. slits - cut70. happy mondays - bummed71. gary numan - the pleasure principle72. fall - hex education hour73. basement jaxx - rooty74. prodigy - music for the jilted generation75. streets - a grand don't come for free76. suede - suede77. smiths - strangeways here we come78. disco inferno - d.i. go pop79. belle and sebastian - the boy with the arab strap80. orbital - 2/brown album81. suede - dog man star82. pj harvey - to bring you my love83. talk talk - spirit of eden84. spice girls - spice85. soft cell - non-stop erotic cabaret86. john martyn - solid air87. john cale - paris 191988. jesus and mary chain - psychocandy89. gorky's zygotic mynci - bwd times90. fall - this nation's saving grace91. suede - coming up92. elastica - elastica93. basement jaxx - remedy94. wedding present - sea monsters95. prodigy - experience96. depeche mode - construction time again97. girls aloud - what will the neighbours say?98. beatles - the beatles99. who - my generation100. belle and sebastian - tigermilk
The Cure would probably get in somewhere with something - Oasis or The Pistols? not so sure
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Loveless would actually be about 10th, I reckon. OK Computer would win.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Me too, having all this knowledge sucks ass!
Maybe (the ass part) isn't so bad. ;-)
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
x post
What knowledge?
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Hex, Orbital Brown, My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, Strange Times, Pornography, A Kiss in the Dreamhouse, Red Mecca, Infected, Treasure, New Gold Dream, Power Corruption & Lies, Spectral Mornings, i, Cupid & Psyche 85, Metal Box, JuJu, Pawn Hearts, Rock Bottom, Deceit, A Walk Across the Rooftops, Babble, Spirit of Eden, Peter Gabriel 3, Peter Gabriel 4, DI Go Pop, The Return of The Durutti Column, Sulk, Metamatic, No Pussyfooting, Gone to Earth, Violator, Lowlife, Steve Mcqueen, First and Last and Always, Surfing on Sine Windows, 76:14 , red, dark side of the moon, the lamb lies down on broadway
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link