ILM is kinda sucking these days (boring and meta ignore not safe for work)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDl3bdE3YQA

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GlrjWDvn_CI/Th8GHjnYOVI/AAAAAAAABGw/ldtNAyUKjZs/s1600/tumblr_lkxc3xXkoq1qivgtho1_500.jpg

Really? I just meant that its as innocuous as goons talking about record sales or mixtape downliads (which I can now guess is probably not what is being referred to when they bitch about 'insider basebakl' in the goon thread)

Xp to lex

'downliads'? Gah!

Even Patroclus downloaded, a far, far better man than you.

well, you're wrong! you do not seem like the kind of person who would admit that though. maybe spend less time trying to divine what other people think based on tossed-off msgboard annoyance and more time working on yourself? god it's like those people who think they know the ~real me~ because they follow me on twitter

lol this is like the nth time you've attempted this failed zing. please continue with the "no-one actually knows what I think from the pieces I write about music unless they've read absolutely every word twice" routine, it's a riot - it's like you're saying "my writing is unclear enough that no-one could actually divine my thoughts from it," which is a weird thing to brag about

there are good reasons for someone critical of the site to "think about pitchfork" ie, about its outsize role in discourse... that said, look at the ilm eoy poll results, lex not exactly in the minority, you are basically a "tastemaker" on this site. that aero post is characteristically embarrassing but i think ppl are fed because it seems like ur being zero tolerance about it so they make self-regarding patronizing posts in expasperation(??)

flopson on his scorched earth shit.

pitchfork review is up now

lol a+ bump

pitchfork thread is a joke

lex hates humor

not much more to it

OPPA GANGNAM STYLE

fwiw i made a 100% bullshit post to this thread yesterday and no one said anything about it

Artists who waited ten years or more to make a follow-up

lol

I can sorta see whiney's point about threads like that one as they seem to have little actual discussion. Like "s/d: albums that fit x criteria" at least encourages qualitative judgements whereas "let's list every exampe of albums that fit x criteria" results in just that, a list. And then it sorta does become tv tropes for music. However as a registered poster with fingers he is in a position to generate music discussion himself so shrug

example

this was the thread that i think got whiney on his whole tv tropes thing, a thread i started, admittedly without deeply pondering its greater implications on the discource of ilm as a whole....that said i think there is some good discussion on it

Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

there've always been threads like that on ilm

for example the classic creatively bankrupt newish chillwave/post-AnCo bands whose names are just '80s ephemera

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*sniffs* i grow weary of superficial discussion

the great thing is that lex didn't actually read the thread, he merely found its presence in new answers insupportable

I think it's kind of funny that Whiney basically said "I was going to complain about ppl guessing a Pitchfork score" but apparently decided to create all the 1980s movies where a punk band recorded the theme song instead

like, how are you going to bag on ppl for having obsessive fun and then start an obsessive fun thread

whiney, god bless him, is the king of going after people for doing stuff that is basically 99.99999999% similar to the stuff he does

he's a goer

http://www.angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/catalog/products/ts/likeyout.jpg

hahahah

Whiney & The Lex one of my fave Cartoon Network shows in the 90's.

the narcissism of whiner differences

I had to See Image Info on that one, I kinda want that shirt

xposts

otm

horace: eram quod es; eris quod sum

delenda est ilm

I Love Mewling

.. a nu-golden era beckons perhaps ..

some cracking good threads at the moment ..

or is this cos 2013 has become interesting after a dreary couple of years ..

yeah threads that are just a catalog of things have always been a part of ilm, like alex in nyc's "album covers that have someone wearing a hat" threads or Favorite Long Songs ?

the discourse on poll threads doesn't really seem much different than what was on the Pick Only One or In Praise Of threads. they're just a harmless catalyst for discussion imo.

scott otm about the decreased britisher presence, that's the main difference between old and new ILM to me. which really just means that i'm when i check out an artist that gets rapturously praised on here and i'm like http://www.city-data.com/forum/members/jill61-603505-albums-emoticons-pic62805-shrug.gif it's for gucci mane and not girls aloud now.

^^^ this sort of internet hardman vibe - which isn't really that widespread on ilm, but is more in evidence than it used to be - is exactly what people mean when they say ilm sucks more than it used to

it really isn't, but maybe the level of earnestness that used to be there has dropped more-than-proportionately

back then rap fans had a notable new album to discuss every 6 weeks or so, now there's a notable new mixtape every 6 hours.

i do not think that we agree on what notable means btw some dude

noted ilm poster darraghmac

btw this thread premise is p much equivalent to 'hell is dry and hot these days' imo but i heard there was a meta clusterfuck so here i am

ha xp

back then rap fans had a notable new album to discuss every 6 weeks or so, now there's a notable new mixtape every 6 hours.

i do not think that we agree on what notable means btw some dude

― the right to beef at (darraghmac), Friday, February 8, 2013 9:27 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

REALLY, "notable" is too far? i feel like that's a fine word to mean 'something that multiple people are listening to and interested in talking about,' it's not like i said "significant" or "important" or something.

i mean it's pretty much an indisputable fact that an hour of new music by a rapper that pretty much any hip-hop fan has at least heard of used to be a weekly or monthly occurrence and is now a daily if not hourly occurrence.

these rap chaps ought to exercise some bally self-control, is what our dear friend is flailing at

same as the noise scene. people make a tape a week. rap and noise. its easy to consume a lot of it though. even when its not memorable. its like weird candy you like. metal fans too. an infinite appetite. courting a porn-y audience isn't hard. just keep it coming.

it just struck me as strange usage tbh- imo if you think there is a notable album/mixtape coming out every 6 hours you need to raise yr ceiling of notability

this is v much an aside tho, it's not notable tbh

This has the feel of the very initial exchanges of a terrible, magnificent war

ha not at all, fwiw i recognise the ability to catalogue reams and reams of new content as a very ilm trait/talent. maybe ilf does similar but i couldn't really think of an equivalent off my head

hah it occurs to me that i have no idea what kind of music darragh likes

i guess 'notable' has an air of 'exceptional' to it but all i meant was, like, famous. someone pretty famous, like has has hit singles and been on TV and stuff, drops a new mixtape like at least 4 times every day. that wasn't true 10 years ago.