Like every time I go to the Whitney biennial, every single artist my age and younger can't seem to make art that doesn't have Nes controllers or Captain Planet in it.It's fucking embarrassing to think this is how my generation is squandering their talents― unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, September 28, 2009 3:36 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban PermalinkGuys there's a difference between people aping the bands they liked as a kid and building your entire aesthetic around how awesome it was to watch Legends Of The Hidden Temple― Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, September 28, 2009 6:25 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
It's fucking embarrassing to think this is how my generation is squandering their talents
― unban dance squad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, September 28, 2009 3:36 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Guys there's a difference between people aping the bands they liked as a kid and building your entire aesthetic around how awesome it was to watch Legends Of The Hidden Temple
― Guerilla Zooey (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, September 28, 2009 6:25 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
gonna stop cloggin the MPP thread with this. no fake band names. only real ones when they occur
1. Reading Rainbow2. Golden Girls3. Unsolved Mysteries4. Ducktails5. Universal Studios Florida6. The Pudding Pops
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
hahaha The Pudding Pops. urge to post fake ones is almost overwhelming.
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
also read that as 'Whiney biennial'
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
Roy Division?
Oh hang on, I mean Joy Orbison.
or is it?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
NO
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, no one post fake ones, plz. i think this is an interesting trend that could stand some actual debate.
I think the Pudding Pops used to be called "Bill Cosby and His White Pudding Pops" and i am not bullshitting about that
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
i mean, also Joy Orbison i think falls under the 90s punk pop-culture mash-up trend of like John Cougar Concentration Camp and like Clearance Clarence Revolver or whatevs
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
this is about 20 somethings just borrowing the names of annoying, overplayed nostalgia tropes. it really is the pitchfork generation's version of Young Money "I got her... GROCERY BAG" rapping
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
.. i wasn't posting a fake one...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
saw this coming three or four years ago and feel vaguely guilty for supporting it in utero to be honest
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
xpost, i was talkin to blueski
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't know if i've ever even heard a chillwave album. what's the big one to listen to?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
Memory Tapes, I guess.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Neon Indian's record from last year was one of the big ones, I think.
― kshighway (ksh), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
has the thing where they "rap" over old volumes of jock jams stopped yet?
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
atari teenage riot
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
memory tapes (hey guys, remember tapes?)
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
neon indian (reference to the seminal mr. wizard episode with the neon indian)
washed out (stonewashed jeans)
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
toro y moi (preppy fashion label like polo and izod)
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
and that's all of the chillwave bands, the end
i mean, in Harvell's Wham City piece, I always thought this part rang somewhere between articulate justification of motives and total bullshit
"The melting pot of referential visual materials--all the fliers, the videos we're making, board games, comic books--it's a melting pot of these mythologies that are coming out of what might be called `low cultures,'" Roche says. "And I think that's super important. I think it's something we all share. It goes back to Beauty and the Beast--all of the things we've been talking about feed into that. Instead of it being purely ironic or purely a joke, those mythologies are being seamlessly integrated into more spiritual art."
And now I'm realizing that Wham City is like Marchel Duchamp compared to the laziness of naming your band a fucking TV show
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
this may not be the thread for Shuki Levy as greatest influence on last 5 years of music musings, but there is probably a band somewhere out there named after every TV show he worked on, just need to bump this thread whenever I find one
― canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
not a chillwave band, but *This Moment In Black History* reminds me of this.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
kinda like if you named your band *A Very Special Episode Of Blossom*.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah wham city was definitely the tipping point or at least an early outlier of this stuff...i think maybe it being in the air in baltimore for so long is why i'm more ambivalent about it than whiney or whoever now, i already went through rolling my eyes and then accepting it and finding people i like who are guilty of it.
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
Cold Cave - back in the 80s I lived in a cave with no heating
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah wham city was definitely the tipping point or at least an early outlier of this stuff...i think maybe it being in the air in baltimore for so long is why i'm more ambivalent about it than whiney or whoever now, i already went through rolling my eyes and then accepting it and finding people i like who are guilty of it.― some dude, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:27 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― some dude, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:27 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Uh, try Fort Thunder
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
i've seen wham city people cite fort thunder as an inspiration but i literally know nothing else about it other than that their best known band is lightening bolt, and i thought they were like a hard rockin instrumental band, not any 80s retro bullshit?
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
fort thunder dudes like chippendale and paperrad or whatev would do weird and wild stuff in their art with thngs like garfield and bart simps, but it was always really mutated and distorted and weird, and generally pretty awesome.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
stuff from my generation was awesome, stuff from the younger generation is dumb
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, more Hartley hare!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
unsloved mysteries
― anita bonghit (rionat), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
The New Zoo Revue Revue
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
my new band: *Ben Matlock's Season Four Cameo On Diagnosis Murder*
― scott seward, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
ducktails is a really cool band name
― Lamp, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
Boards of Canada surely were the first band to do this?
― Groke, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
okay, really, i'm all for this, i guess. ducktails is a pretty good band name.
not v. chill but (wikipedia time) Crystal Castles were named after ... She-Ra's fortress in the sky
― canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
ducktails is a really cool terrible band name
Fixed that for you.
― anagram, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
not all these bands are chillwave. I'll allow it.
7. Crystal Castles
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
fort thunder was never "cute." or at least ONLY cute.
also very few of these bands will ever produce anything on par with the non-musical shit many of the fort thunder guys produced, simply from a scale/intensity/effort standpoint. effort seems to be beyond most of them.
also crystal castles was named for a video game, whatever the band says.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
tho both lightning bolt and chippendale's comics made a lot of people of the following generation think they could do what he could do, but they can't, at least not with the ease they think, and they haven't.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
isn't Vampire Weekend super proud of the fact that one of the associations w/ the title of their new album is the title of an old Nintendo game?
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol i was gonna say didn't we explore this idea about 4 months ago
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
I had assumed it was the game too but checked on Wikipedia and it said that. still 80s, -600 points to me for believing wikipedia
― canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
btw i know y'all will find this hard to believe but fort thunder's influence has been way more pernicious in comics/visual art than in music
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
"tho both lightning bolt and chippendale's comics made a lot of people of the following generation think they could do what he could do, but they can't, at least not with the ease they think, and they haven't."
why don't you marry him already.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
would if i could, man.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
in a way there is a playfulness with this naming trend that i'm tempted to equate with some of the old rave producer/acts. this is all a bit 'tweer' tho perhaps.
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:00 (3 years ago) Permalink
what do you guys think of "Bleakend at Bernie's"?
― sarahell, Friday, 16 November 2012 03:31 (6 months ago) Permalink
having now actually heard them I fuck w/ the band Scott & Charlene's Wedding fyi
― Joanna Motorhead (DJ Mencap), Friday, 16 November 2012 08:24 (6 months ago) Permalink
they have their moments
― all the pies that we were feeding it (electricsound), Friday, 16 November 2012 09:03 (6 months ago) Permalink
these dudes are called You Bred Raptors? but i don't think they really belong here
― mizzell, Friday, 16 November 2012 21:03 (6 months ago) Permalink
i think Peak Twins is kinda funny tbh
― J0rdan S., Monday, July 16, 2012 10:06 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark
ok but what about Silent Drape Runners
― dmr, Friday, 16 November 2012 21:16 (6 months ago) Permalink
i don't think anyone playing an 8 string bass with a violin bow belongs here
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:21 (6 months ago) Permalink
what do you guys think of "Bleakend at Bernie's"?― sarahell, Friday, November 16, 2012 3:31 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― sarahell, Friday, November 16, 2012 3:31 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― six possible reasons why Obama won. Some are truly chilling. (bernard snowy), Friday, 16 November 2012 21:44 (6 months ago) Permalink
Weeknd at Bernie's
― Number None, Friday, 16 November 2012 22:59 (6 months ago) Permalink
xp dmr: I just got a booking request from them for a last minute gig.
― a series of top-selling Maryanne Amacher BluRays (sarahell), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:54 (5 months ago) Permalink
Silent Drape Runners literally the worst live act I have ever seen
― paula boradwell (crüt), Monday, 19 November 2012 20:58 (5 months ago) Permalink
well, I didn't book them, so I hope yr happy
― a series of top-selling Maryanne Amacher BluRays (sarahell), Monday, 19 November 2012 21:06 (5 months ago) Permalink
very.
― paula boradwell (crüt), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:06 (5 months ago) Permalink
saw a band called wet assed band with a table of xmas presents called beaty heart supporting teengirl fantasy on friday and though im not sure what it means they deserve to be here with bullets in the ass.
― straightola, Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:34 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I happened to see this Beaty Heart lot last night and fucking hell. Either Animal Collective is the only band they've ever heard or they're an Animal Collective tribute band who forgot all the songs but boldly went for it anyway. It went from mildly amusing to hilarious to distressingly uncanny pretty quickly. How have they managed to be around for at least a couple of years without someone having a word and them realising the horrible emptiness of it all?
― a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 12:35 (1 month ago) Permalink
that watered-down doumbek type beat has a very World Music vibe to it. Vocals are pretty awful, and there's not much else going on.
― --808 542137 (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 13:46 (1 month ago) Permalink
i went to Goldsmiths with Beaty Heart...they've always been not great/sounded like Animal Collective. It was quite exciting at the start though, in a weird way. Just in that you go from living outside london and the bands your age are metal acts/funk-rock/sub-kooks indie and suddenly there's a band who sound like AC/Gang Gang Dance playing at houseparties and stuff.
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 14:18 (1 month ago) Permalink
chillumayowave
― maura, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 14:34 (1 month ago) Permalink
Does anybody know of a band called Super C? Like the sequel to Contra? I googled it a bit and can't find one, and I think that would be a really badass name for a band, if one were to go the creatively bankrupt route.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 April 2013 16:30 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
I would go see them if they were a creatively bankrupt, ten-minute Nintendocore deconstruction, Vitamin C cover band.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 27 April 2013 16:51 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
And now there's a band just simply called Twin Peakshttps://soundcloud.com/twinpeaksdudes/stand-in-the-sand
― MarkoP, Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:05 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
How about a creatively bankrupt Nintendocore Can cover band?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:18 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
i think the chillwave sound can be amazing when it "works" -- i.e. makes you feel like you are woozy from too much sunlight and drifting off to sleep in a hammock, free-associating memories from your childhood -- i mean, nostalgia is powerful shit, and for people of a certain age the sounds that ducktails and neon indian and toro y moi and whatever work with can be pretty potent if they are decontextualized in just the right way... i don't know i am a fan of chillwave. i don't really care if there a million of these bands because how is it different than a million mediocre punk bands? as a genre it is cool, and a predictable but pleasant manifestation of how everyone with a macbook has access to every synth sound they could ever want.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 28 April 2013 03:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
ducktails is my favorite of these bands, especially their third album arcade dynamics, which i think is one of the top three or four albums of the new decade so far. a modest masterpiece. it's just so transcendentally chill, like playing frisbee with my golden retriever. chillness as a mood gets a bad rap because it is associated with horrible music -- jimmy buffett, dave matthews, idk, the eagles' "take it easy" might be a key text here -- so it's good to have an album that does justice to feeling relaxed on a lazy summer afternoon, maybe reading a book that you're not really paying attention to, just letting your eyes drift over the page...
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 28 April 2013 04:05 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
smh at this Universal Studios Florida pfork rising article from 2009 http://pitchfork.com/news/36595-rising-universal-studios-florida/
― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 28 April 2013 04:07 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
chillness as a mood gets a bad rap because it is associated with horrible music
Chillness as a mood is sort of the definition of 'cool' isn't it? The 'horrible music' you listed is some of the best-selling music ever, and seems to be hated mainly by the 'cool' people that would like chillwave.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 28 April 2013 14:25 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
hm, good point. i guess chillwave is explicitly marketed chillness, so it is (kinda) unique in that sense as a thing that is marketed toward cool people. like grunge music appealed to slackers, but it was all about bitterness, disaffection, anger, and even in some cases severe depression. although there is this undercurrent of melancholy and loss in most chillwave acts (but not in the ducktails album!) that distinguishes it from the great selling "chill" music. i guess it's just the ducktails album that i feel like reclaims afternoon-drinking-corona-on-the-porch music for hipsters.
so basically chillwave is the gentrification of chill, which doesn't sound very good when written out like that, but i'm enjoying my ride on this wave.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 28 April 2013 14:36 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
maybe chillwave is just grunge to electroclash's hair metal
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 28 April 2013 16:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the timeline is reversed though, because hair metal preceded grunge and electroclash preceded chillwave. otherwise that analogy is fine, i guess. i think chillwave is just a result of the democratization of sampling and similar studio procedures. electronic music can be low budget now, and so more personal than it ever was before.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 28 April 2013 17:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
That was exactly what Adam said
― mh, Sunday, 28 April 2013 17:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
oh yeah, i see now. sorry. good analogy.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 28 April 2013 17:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
why does drinking corona on the porch need to be reclaimed? who stole it from humanity? who is doing this reclaiming?
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
everything got sunny/beachy/tropical a while back, not just the chillwave stuff. i don't think that vibing out was ever in much need of reclamation, though.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:22 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
someone quickly reclaim getting high & having a barbecue, summer's almost on us
― ogmor, Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i think yer first point is kinda wrong -- tbh, at the same time there was the chillwave phenomenon there was also a resurgence in various willfully dark strains of new wave/synth pop/'minimal synth.' tons of reissues of obscure european and american obscurities have come out in the last few years that most decidedly not sunny, even within this post-punk/indie rock/new wave/'underground' framework.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
xp to contendorizor
gothwave
― mh, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:07 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i think it's true that the post punk indie synth stuff contains multitudes, but i think the sunnier end of chillwave is still it's own thing, that tried to bring hipster music out of the bedroom/dive bar and onto the lawn.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:26 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
and xpost i consider best coast/waaves/late 2000s sunny guitar indie pop a part of this trend, but one that is less interesting to me than the more stoned sounding synth end of things
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Wasn't the phrase invented as a mock genre by Hipsterrunoff?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
it was, but it is still an accurate term to describe a cluster of bands with similar sensibilities that were emerging around 08-09
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 28 April 2013 21:20 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
you can call them hypnagogic pop bands if u want
hypnagogo bands
― You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Monday, 29 April 2013 04:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:24 PM (8 hours ago)
in case it wasn't clear, i didn't mean everything everything. just regular everything.
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Monday, 29 April 2013 04:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
is Robert Ashley a forerunner of chillwave?
― You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Monday, 29 April 2013 04:26 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
yes. this influence was strikingly apparent when the Metropolitan Opera did an orchestral version of Neon Indian's Psychic Chasms last fall
― the gentrification of chill (Pat Finn), Monday, 29 April 2013 05:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the dude from Washed OutI think they burned him
― the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Monday, 29 April 2013 11:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Take it Easy is a great song, one of the few great eagles songs
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 April 2013 12:47 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
completely missed how dope com truise is amidst all this lolling
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 May 2013 23:15 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the ol come trues
― wk, Thursday, 2 May 2013 23:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 May 2013 23:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
reminds me a lot of DJ Shadow in the way he constructs tunes, but with a different sonic palette
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Thursday, 2 May 2013 23:20 (2 weeks ago) Permalink