ILM is kinda sucking these days (boring and meta ignore not safe for work)

http://www.joncouture.com/Wamblnce.jpg

if it's any consolation lex, I came in there to complain about it, but people round these parts increasingly rally around anything that's 40% statistics, 40% polling, and 10% about music

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:37 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and 10% something else, i did the math wrong

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, February 6, 2013 11:38 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

9.0

lol

To be fair to Lex, I believe this gripe comes from a place of love. I feel like his main premise is why should ILX reg posters be concerned w what P4k thinks since ILX is clearly the superior site. Hence: "wheres your dignity?"

I think that might be what he's saying anyways, I could be way off...

pro tip: if there's a thread you're not interested in, just ignore it!

― Neil S, Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:48 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

This is pretty much how I use the board.

o really do tell me more about what i think

ok - you think about Pitchfork more than people who read Pitchfork - the search results bear this out - maybe you should think about Pitchfork less and be happier in life - enjoy the music you enjoy instead of obsessing about Those Horrible People Who Like The Music We Don't Like and all - just a thought - I know there's no point - you will continue thinking lots about Pitchfork - that's cool - just pointing out - it's not them - it's you

well, you're wrong! you do not seem like the kind of person who would admit that though. maybe spend less time trying to divine what other people think based on tossed-off msgboard annoyance and more time working on yourself? god it's like those people who think they know the ~real me~ because they follow me on twitter

indie insider baseball

― Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:47 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw this phrase pretty much sums up my annoyance, makes my skin crawl etc

insider cricket

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5z0MuKxfZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQvteoFiMlg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDl3bdE3YQA

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GlrjWDvn_CI/Th8GHjnYOVI/AAAAAAAABGw/ldtNAyUKjZs/s1600/tumblr_lkxc3xXkoq1qivgtho1_500.jpg

Really? I just meant that its as innocuous as goons talking about record sales or mixtape downliads (which I can now guess is probably not what is being referred to when they bitch about 'insider basebakl' in the goon thread)

Xp to lex

'downliads'? Gah!

Even Patroclus downloaded, a far, far better man than you.

well, you're wrong! you do not seem like the kind of person who would admit that though. maybe spend less time trying to divine what other people think based on tossed-off msgboard annoyance and more time working on yourself? god it's like those people who think they know the ~real me~ because they follow me on twitter

lol this is like the nth time you've attempted this failed zing. please continue with the "no-one actually knows what I think from the pieces I write about music unless they've read absolutely every word twice" routine, it's a riot - it's like you're saying "my writing is unclear enough that no-one could actually divine my thoughts from it," which is a weird thing to brag about

there are good reasons for someone critical of the site to "think about pitchfork" ie, about its outsize role in discourse... that said, look at the ilm eoy poll results, lex not exactly in the minority, you are basically a "tastemaker" on this site. that aero post is characteristically embarrassing but i think ppl are fed because it seems like ur being zero tolerance about it so they make self-regarding patronizing posts in expasperation(??)

flopson on his scorched earth shit.

pitchfork review is up now

lol a+ bump

pitchfork thread is a joke

lex hates humor

not much more to it

OPPA GANGNAM STYLE

fwiw i made a 100% bullshit post to this thread yesterday and no one said anything about it

Artists who waited ten years or more to make a follow-up

lol

I can sorta see whiney's point about threads like that one as they seem to have little actual discussion. Like "s/d: albums that fit x criteria" at least encourages qualitative judgements whereas "let's list every exampe of albums that fit x criteria" results in just that, a list. And then it sorta does become tv tropes for music. However as a registered poster with fingers he is in a position to generate music discussion himself so shrug

example

this was the thread that i think got whiney on his whole tv tropes thing, a thread i started, admittedly without deeply pondering its greater implications on the discource of ilm as a whole....that said i think there is some good discussion on it

Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

there've always been threads like that on ilm

for example the classic creatively bankrupt newish chillwave/post-AnCo bands whose names are just '80s ephemera

http://d2ywbsv4foxae1.cloudfront.net/p/hasbro-3195-96653-1-product.jpg

*sniffs* i grow weary of superficial discussion

the great thing is that lex didn't actually read the thread, he merely found its presence in new answers insupportable

I think it's kind of funny that Whiney basically said "I was going to complain about ppl guessing a Pitchfork score" but apparently decided to create all the 1980s movies where a punk band recorded the theme song instead

like, how are you going to bag on ppl for having obsessive fun and then start an obsessive fun thread

whiney, god bless him, is the king of going after people for doing stuff that is basically 99.99999999% similar to the stuff he does

he's a goer

http://www.angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/catalog/products/ts/likeyout.jpg

hahahah

Whiney & The Lex one of my fave Cartoon Network shows in the 90's.

the narcissism of whiner differences

I had to See Image Info on that one, I kinda want that shirt

xposts

otm

horace: eram quod es; eris quod sum

delenda est ilm

I Love Mewling

.. a nu-golden era beckons perhaps ..

some cracking good threads at the moment ..

or is this cos 2013 has become interesting after a dreary couple of years ..

yeah threads that are just a catalog of things have always been a part of ilm, like alex in nyc's "album covers that have someone wearing a hat" threads or Favorite Long Songs ?

the discourse on poll threads doesn't really seem much different than what was on the Pick Only One or In Praise Of threads. they're just a harmless catalyst for discussion imo.

scott otm about the decreased britisher presence, that's the main difference between old and new ILM to me. which really just means that i'm when i check out an artist that gets rapturously praised on here and i'm like http://www.city-data.com/forum/members/jill61-603505-albums-emoticons-pic62805-shrug.gif it's for gucci mane and not girls aloud now.

^^^ this sort of internet hardman vibe - which isn't really that widespread on ilm, but is more in evidence than it used to be - is exactly what people mean when they say ilm sucks more than it used to

it really isn't, but maybe the level of earnestness that used to be there has dropped more-than-proportionately

back then rap fans had a notable new album to discuss every 6 weeks or so, now there's a notable new mixtape every 6 hours.

i do not think that we agree on what notable means btw some dude

noted ilm poster darraghmac