Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

Actually, there are plenty of examples in Andy's playing where he pulls off a little licks here and there...the guy knew what he was doing for sure. Just because he played a loud, abrasive, solid state amp, doesn't make him a bad player with good "style." He had both.

I can't beleive the amount of morons on that board. I did a search on it and i found that many of them like 'Indie/Alternative' bands that can barely play their instruments, AND WORST OF ALL, They like commercialised Top 40 Music like Britney & Justin Timberlake!!! HAHAHA
Come on people, lets take on these morons!!!!

Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

How Can ANYONE Rip Dave Matthews then admit to liking manufactured chart pop? We win this argument so easy it hurts.
I cant believe how many nerds are on that board. I saw Guided By Voices once and they were so drunk they could barely play their 2 chord songs. Thats the so called 'Alternative' music Nerds worship.
And as for Britney and Justin....... sheesh.

Hasn't DMB been just as successful as the "manufactured chart pop" only with a different demographic? What, does having a violinist in your group exempt you from getting called a pop band?

Oh Totally, I get your point, and I wasn't trying to argue with you, it's just that I kinda thought the same thing once, but have realized just how good the man was with his instrument.

I am of the school of thought that style AND craftsmanship or skills make a good player. Seriously, very few people are moved by someone like Yngwie Malmsteen or as well by somebody like Jandek. To me it's the combination of physical skills and mental substance that makes someone "good" at an instrument, a totally subjective thing regardless.

D. Boon and Greg Ginn are both pretty skilled guitar players - I'd say the best counter-example would be Billy Childish.

" I dare say that without Killing Joke, most of your precious "heavy sounding" bands wouldn't even exist. Killing Joke have indulged in a myriad of different musical styles and sounds well beyond the monochromatic 'heavy', yet when they choose to go that route, there is no one mightier. To judge Killing Joke by one or two tracks is an excercise in blind-sighted stupidity. Do your homework before submitting an opinion! Moreover, if you're put off by the conceptual/lyrical content of Killing Joke, why not toddle home and slap on a Pixies or Cheap Trick album and celebrate the meaningless and banal. At least Killing Joke have something to say. You may not like it, agree with it...or even understand it....but at least there something of substance there. Killing Joke credit their audience with higher standards and a modicum of intelligence. Try getting that from Korn."

I'd like to think I've mellowed a bit since then.

Your argument about people who've like DMB being the most open-minded about music is completely false in my experience, as the people I know who knew them when they were a jam band playing colleges in upstate New York tend to stick exclusively with the Shawn Colvin/Meredith Brooks/DMB/Hootie and the Blowfish/Sting axis of music and consider U2 to be the outer limits of acceptability. Your argument about them not being exclusively for white middle-class is accurate; they're aimed at black middle-class, too (although few would admit to listening to them, particularly when faced by the nu-soul/back-to-hip-hop mafia).

Alex does have a valid point; one reason why people may be coming down harder on naga than he/she actually deserves is because his initial post reads as Yet Another Fanboy Attack and people tend to want to jump up and down on posts like that until they squeal. (Well, I do anyway.)

You've just spotted another.

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Heya Naga. Me, I lurv Rush, the new album's great. I also think Dave Matthews Band are a blight upon the world, but I would. ;-) Favorite band is My Bloody Valentine -- check them out sometime. Welcome to us. Alex stuck around, you should too.

thanks everyone. i can't say anythingabout DMB that hasn't already been said. well, i can try "shiny-chinned smuggorama overload" but that's not really helpful.

the travis/stereophonics/ocs = dmb/hootie/cunting crows is spot-on, well done. can we all go home now?

What that says about "our" collective tastes, I'm not entirely sure...

Oh well. *sigh*

- "I Shall Be Free No. 10", B. Dylan

Secondly, I think the lyrics are stirring and evocative; they make me feel the emotion that the song is trying to convey. I also think that Dave Matthews is a very honest songwriter - he really seems to feel what he is writing. As to the lyrics being misogynistic, I don't see any evidence.

RE: the fans - I am not an attorney nor am I an accountant; I am not in college presently, and I have never been inside a frat house (personal choice). I also bathe daily, brush my hair, and find patchouli nauseating. I have never been nor will I ever be a hippie.

Enough said on my part.