BURNPIT: U.S. Politics, August 2022

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yeah but

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:16 (three years ago)

fwiw, in the Meijer/Gibbs primary with the DCCC ads "criticizing" Gibbs for being way too conservative and too aligned with Trump, Gibbs ended up winning, 52% to 48%. close one

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:26 (three years ago)

let's see if the Dem's gamble pays off

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:35 (three years ago)

I think the following propositions are true:

1. Dems should absolutely not be spending money to boost fascists.

2. The Republican voters would have selected these people anyway.

Are U down with the BVM (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 22:01 (three years ago)

RNC links up with ‘Stop the Steal’ advocates to train poll workers
Recordings of recruitment “summits” show party officials working with Cleta Mitchell and other leaders of Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/02/rnc-stop-the-steal-advocates-poll-workers-00049109

dow, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 23:11 (three years ago)

"2. The Republican voters would have selected these people anyway."

it's unclear if that was the case. I think those ads boosted turnout for Gibbs, he was polling behind Meijer until recently.

akm, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 23:23 (three years ago)

Every time I see Cleta Mitchell’s name I think of the Seinfeld episode with Mulva.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 4 August 2022 05:12 (three years ago)

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-3-pro-impeachment-house-republicans-survive-tuesdays-primaries/

Meijer, the scion of the eponymous Midwestern grocery chain family, is hoping his sizable financial advantage can save him. As of July 13, Meijer had raised $2.8 million, dwarfing the $484,000 Gibbs had brought in, and Meijer has used that money to both criticize President Biden and attack Gibbs. Meijer has lambasted Gibbs for recently moving to western Michigan from California (although Gibbs is originally from Lansing), and he’s also portrayed Gibbs as the Democrats’ “handpicked candidate” in light of the DCCC’s recent ads. Meijer has also benefited from about $3 million in outside spending, according to OpenSecrets. But with no recent polling to go on, Meijer’s fate in this race is unclear.

a (waterface), Thursday, 4 August 2022 12:12 (three years ago)

vs. the Dems 450k of ads that just "threw the election to Gibbs"

a (waterface), Thursday, 4 August 2022 12:13 (three years ago)

Meijer's district was just redistricted and he voted against the Voting Rights Act

And further, Meijer voted against the voting rights bill. This new district connects really important communities here in Grand Rapids and along the lakeshore, especially communities of color that have historically been disenfranchised from voting, even here up until recent times, and then gerrymandered out of districts where their voice can really matter. So that was another really impactful vote. To see him vote against the Voting Rights Act bill I think was really disappointing to a lot of people.

https://michiganadvance.com/2022/02/01/breaking-scholten-seeks-2nd-challenge-against-meijer-in-new-3rd-congressional-district/

a (waterface), Thursday, 4 August 2022 12:16 (three years ago)

Kind of sick of this bs that he's "the right kind of Republican" and we shouldn't have encouraged the psycho. . . they're all psychos

a (waterface), Thursday, 4 August 2022 12:16 (three years ago)

Every time I see Cleta Mitchell’s name I think of the Seinfeld episode with Mulva.

Every time I hear the name "Pat Cipollone" I get "Mista Dobalina" by Del tha Funkee Homosapien stuck in my head... glory hallestupid! Mr. Cipollone, Mr. Pat Cipollone... I don't mind it really.

BrianB, Thursday, 4 August 2022 12:34 (three years ago)

Kind of sick of this bs that he's "the right kind of Republican" and we shouldn't have encouraged the psycho. . . they're all psychos

― a (waterface), Thursday, August 4, 2022

otm

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2022 12:39 (three years ago)

The DCCC should have spent the reverse fake attacks ads on Meijer instead

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 August 2022 14:10 (three years ago)

Just like the mainstream press has called the late Jackie Walorski a moderate.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2022 14:11 (three years ago)

Seriously. Voted to repeal the ACA, anti immigrant, challenged the 2020 election, and so on.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 August 2022 14:15 (three years ago)

well, seems like we all agree this was a baffling & futile waste of $450k

rob, Thursday, 4 August 2022 14:17 (three years ago)

speaking of MI, glad to see Tlaib won

rob, Thursday, 4 August 2022 14:24 (three years ago)

The Kansas earthquake and the possibility of a big climate bill show how Dems can galvanize young voters who are dispirited and disengaged. As the head of the Harvard Youth Poll tells us, abortion and climate are of disproportionate importance to them.https://t.co/bR8wK3E0G7

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) August 4, 2022

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:05 (three years ago)

"disproportionate" to what, exactly

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:35 (three years ago)

body autonomy and burning to death in a fire take up a disproportionate amount of my brane space relative to, idk home ownership or buying diamond rings

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:36 (three years ago)

what about Cure reissues

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:37 (three years ago)

sorry. that "disproportionate" is a jarringly false note in an otherwise tepid hot take.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

oh i know it's just like, people at WAPO doing the weebay face while looking at data makes me lol

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:40 (three years ago)

is there a better explanation for pelosi choosing to go to taiwan, right now other than that she's doing it for her own prestige, given the strong possibility that she won't be speaker* after the mid-term? is there a diplomatic objective, greater business cooperation in southeast asia, trade, whatever, that's really pressing? is there some other reason? or does she just want a legacy international capstone project or something?

*side issue: if the GOP takes the house, of course she's out, but what are the chances of her being forced to step down if the Democrats hold the house?

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 August 2022 17:45 (three years ago)

and yes, i know china fucking blows, i know i know

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 August 2022 17:45 (three years ago)

She's been a China hawk her entire career.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 4 August 2022 17:49 (three years ago)

chinese dissident communities also have no idea why she is doing this fwiw

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 August 2022 17:56 (three years ago)

I strongly doubt it was a decision made independent of the white house

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:01 (three years ago)

pretty much the only support i've seen is from senate republicans. everyone else is just kind of like "??". her op-ed in the washpost explaining why she's going doesn't really shed much light, either. here's a "gift" link that should work: https://wapo.st/3cVzrLu

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:02 (three years ago)

Maybe she's heavily invested in the Taiwan semiconductor sector.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:04 (three years ago)

Emotionally I mean, definitely not with her $180 million personal fortune.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:05 (three years ago)

xp moodles

i'm not sure about that! i haven't seen anyone in the white house offer much support. if anything they've just been offering apologies to China, since before it happened:

TAIPEI, Taiwan — The White House worked urgently to de-escalate tensions with China as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Wednesday with Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen and other officials during a high-profile visit to the self-governing island against the administration’s wishes, hoping to head off a geopolitical crisis amid threats and military maneuvers by Beijing.

White House officials warned that China is preparing itself for possible aggressive actions in response to Pelosi’s visit beyond this week, and they reiterated forcefully that the Chinese Communist Party should not use the visit as a pretext to increase military activity in and around the Taiwan Strait.

...
Virtually all the senior members of President Biden’s national security team have privately expressed deep reservations about the trip and its timing, said a White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. They are especially concerned because U.S.-China tensions are already high, and Washington is seeking China’s cooperation on the war in Ukraine and other matters.

Jake Sullivan, Biden’s national security adviser, spoke with his Chinese counterpart to defend Pelosi’s right to visit — as did other high-ranking officials — but even so did not think the trip was a good idea, the White House official said. Sullivan expressed concerns about Pelosi’s trip to multiple administration officials and asked for suggestions on how to dissuade her from traveling to Taiwan.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:05 (three years ago)

That statement could be part of their pantomime. If the White House didn't want her to go, it could've stopped her.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:15 (three years ago)

i feel like reality and politics is rapidly approaching a tipping point where the politician walks up to the podium and says "Good evening", and everyone in the crowd is like "wait what's THAT supposed to mean?"

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:18 (three years ago)

Trump grounded her a couple of years ago, didn't he?

I'd never seen that clip of Pelosi unfurling a flag in protest in Tiananmen Square some years back before:

28 years ago, we traveled to Tiananmen Square to honor the courage & sacrifice of the students, workers & ordinary citizens who stood for the dignity & human rights that all people deserve. To this day, we remain committed to sharing their story with the world. #Tiananmen30 pic.twitter.com/7UqiJVRS3t

— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) June 4, 2019

Clearly this has been a passion of hers for a while, and for this and other reasons clearly China is no fan of her, specifically. As to why now? Who knows.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:24 (three years ago)

as milo pointed out, she has looooong been a China hawk.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:25 (three years ago)

My eyes bled: https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/pelosis-courageous-trip-to-taiwan/

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2022 18:26 (three years ago)

Oh fer fun!

In an ad for his daughter's campaign, Dick Cheney says that in our nation's history there has never been an individual that's been a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump.

"He is a coward. A real man wouldn't lie to his supporters." pic.twitter.com/ZB5cfYy86z

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) August 4, 2022

Bait Kush (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 August 2022 19:44 (three years ago)

WHY WON'T HE DIE

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:05 (three years ago)

Never! Cheneys don't die.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:08 (three years ago)

as milo pointed out, she has looooong been a China hawk.

She represents San Francisco & Chinatown.. I've seen more than a couple nationalist flags flying in Chinatown

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 August 2022 20:16 (three years ago)

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday suspended Tampa's elected prosecutor, Andrew Warren, for pledging not to use his office to go after people who seek and provide abortions or on doctors that provide gender affirming care to transgender people.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/04/politics/desantis-suspends-prosecutor/index.html

dow, Thursday, 4 August 2022 21:38 (three years ago)

Fox keeping it Fair and Balanced, after checking w Gov. Orban:

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis suspends 'Soros-backed' state attorney who refused to enforce abortion ban

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-gov-ron-desantis-suspends-liberal-state-attorney-andrew-warren

dow, Thursday, 4 August 2022 21:43 (three years ago)

doctors that provide gender affirming care to transgender people.
Hadn't heard about this---Alabama passed a law re minors---as far as doctors are concerned, it forbids reassignment surgery on kids, but they weren't doing that anyway---this covers adults too, apparently.

dow, Thursday, 4 August 2022 21:46 (three years ago)

Tell me again how Peter Meijer was a moderate who cared about democracy... https://t.co/KL9YXfE7Rl

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) August 4, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 August 2022 22:46 (three years ago)

That is aggressively missing the point about why Democrats shouldn't pour money into backing the Even Greater Evil.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 4 August 2022 22:51 (three years ago)

Yeah, I agree with you, they're all assholes, which I thought was the point of that tweet.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 August 2022 23:25 (three years ago)

Yes. Full agreement on that. This kind of politicking is a dumb person's idea of smart politicking.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 August 2022 23:37 (three years ago)

damn, that is some good ol' fashioned good news, and i also love to see it

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 September 2022 01:32 (three years ago)

Lol

The amount of land mass represented by House Democrats just went up by 104%. #AKAL

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) September 1, 2022



Yeah there’s another election in November. If palin doesn’t run then I assume the republican will win. Still!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 September 2022 01:49 (three years ago)

Hell of a thread eh Joe

Police in Columbus, Ohio shot and killed an unarmed black man who was laying in bed today. They shot him within one second of opening the bedroom door. His name Donovan Lewis.

— Erick Bellomy 🏳️‍🌈 (@erickbellomy) August 31, 2022

dow, Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:48 (three years ago)

Quite the trend in O-HI-O

dow, Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:49 (three years ago)

Got A Thread For That: Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 September 2022 02:56 (three years ago)

Belongs here too

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 1 September 2022 03:12 (three years ago)

Yeah, but this thread's probably getting locked tomorrow.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 September 2022 04:02 (three years ago)

Why is everyone so mean?? US Politics: September 2022

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Thursday, 1 September 2022 14:04 (three years ago)


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