Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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fwiw I can't think of a single case where a cop was actually convicted of criminal murder charges and served time, unless it was part of some larger corruption scandal (Rampart, CRASH, New Orleans, etc.) or a cop murdered his wife or some shit. Generally speaking this just does not happen.
many xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:04 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:06 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp yea i looked it up briefly and the majority of cases seemed to be corruption charges
― marcos, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:04 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah this is true
― k3vin k., Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
that wasn't murder tho. when a cop kills a person, all these other justifications are usually brought up for why, and those are leaned on very heavily by the defense. whereas there is no conceivable justification for sodomizing a suspect w a broomstick.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:20 (four years ago) Permalink

these guys went to trial and got acquitted so its not always cut and dry

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:28 (four years ago) Permalink

i started this thread a long time ago but it kind of bricked

The most imprisoned people in history: rolling US criminal justice & law enforcement thread

can i suggest that the whole criminal justice pipeline be up for discussion here

goole, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:35 (four years ago) Permalink

go for it

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:43 (four years ago) Permalink

can we make this play when the page loads:

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:46 (four years ago) Permalink

"stop resisting"

Plasmon, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:38 (four years ago) Permalink

some good news, at least

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:42 (four years ago) Permalink

Best line is buried near the end: " investigation by Bloomfield PD's scandal plagued internal affairs division had found no wrongdoing by officers."

Aimless, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:44 (four years ago) Permalink

A coroner’s report obtained exclusively by NBC News directly contradicts the police version of how a 22-year-old black man died in the back seat of a Louisiana police cruiser earlier this year -- but still says the man, whose hands were cuffed behind his back, shot himself.

In a press release issued March 3, the day he died, the Louisiana State Police said Victor White III apparently shot himself in an Iberia Parish police car. According to the police statement, White had his hands cuffed behind his back when he shot himself in the back.

But according to the full final report of the Iberia Parish coroner, which was released nearly six months later and obtained exclusively by NBC News, White was shot in the front, not the back. The bullet entered his right chest and exited under his left armpit. White was left-handed, according to family members. According to the report, the forensic pathologist found gunshot residue in the wound, but not the sort of stippling that a close-range shot can sometimes produce. He also found abrasions on White’s face.

anonanon, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:23 (four years ago) Permalink

At least one person got irritated with me for declining to vote for deBlasio in the (sewn-up) general election for NYC mayor. Then he appointed old hand Bratton to be police commish, and then...

Commissioner Bill Bratton, Mayor de Blasio's choice to lead the NYPD to a new age of transparency and discipline, turned away 25% of police misconduct findings by the Civilian Complaint Review Board, opting to ignore their recommendations for disciplining misbehaving officers. This is around the same rejection rate that former commissioner Raymond Kelly maintained before leaving office at the beginning of the year.

"I suggest you come back in six months and see how we’re doing,” Bratton told the New York Times in a phone interview yesterday."Based on my eight months sitting in that chair, my sense was that CCRB was significantly overcharging and overpenalizing.”

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:00 (four years ago) Permalink

Already, the investigation has found that police departments in Arizona, California, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia, and others have lost or cannot account for various types of weapons. This list includes M14 and M16 assault rifles, .45-caliber pistols, shotguns, and even vehicles.

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:01 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm sure a search of a few police officer homes would turn them up, tanks included.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:11 (four years ago) Permalink

Reminds me of back in high school a buddy of mine got a job working at a gas station and used to hand out free packs of cigarettes to the cute girls and drug dealers who came in for a few months until he was caught and arrested. Bet there are some cute girls and drug dealers in Maricopa County with some military grade weaponry now.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:13 (four years ago) Permalink

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:40 (four years ago) Permalink

I think we can expect a whole lot of shootings of people who were "charging" in the near run.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:22 (four years ago) Permalink

The earlier crime of vandalism appears to have been throwing rocks at cars

you must have me confused with my stacked as fuck and imposing friend (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:22 (four years ago) Permalink

This whole thing of police either tasing or shooting people and then expecting them to "comply" and "cooperate" and "stop moving" is just . . . WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY????

Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:23 (four years ago) Permalink

“The guy charged at [the second officer], and he got about 5 feet away before the officer fired his weapon three times,” Toby said. “And the guy went down, and they got one cuff on him. They were yelling, ‘cooperate, cooperate; give me your hand, give me your hand,’ but he wouldn’t give the hand. He was kicking his legs. And I think, at that point, the guy passed away.”

*blam!* *blam!* *blam!* "cooperate! cooperate!"

Please hear me doing that in my most contemptuous imitation of a fuckwit that I can possibly muster.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh, I see you got to that point before me.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (four years ago) Permalink

sorry no time to cooperate, busy dying

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:30 (four years ago) Permalink

jesus fuck.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Usually, after charges of police brutality, police officials take their time reacting while they follow procedure to determine who did what. But this episode in Knoxville, Tenn., was so extreme and well-documented that the local sheriff fired the officer immediately. Also, it involved a white guy.

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:07 (four years ago) Permalink

busy night for these guys.

they did not shoot anybody here tho:

(that chase screamed by right in front of my building fyi)

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:32 (four years ago) Permalink

well i guess it doesn't say they didn't shoot him

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:33 (four years ago) Permalink

Uh what the hell is going on - this is a different story than earlier today

you must have me confused with my stacked as fuck and imposing friend (jjjusten), Friday, 29 August 2014 00:37 (four years ago) Permalink

cops twitchy, journalists on the lookout

j., Friday, 29 August 2014 00:55 (four years ago) Permalink

Well except cops killing people would be reported in this town whenever and that makes 2 today and I don't remember the last time one happened

you must have me confused with my stacked as fuck and imposing friend (jjjusten), Friday, 29 August 2014 01:28 (four years ago) Permalink

Preliminary search says three people killed by cops this month, 2 dogs no people last month, none in the rest of 2014. So yeah

you must have me confused with my stacked as fuck and imposing friend (jjjusten), Friday, 29 August 2014 03:35 (four years ago) Permalink

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

― j., Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:46 (four years ago) Permalink

Twitter/Tumblr's been really good at unearthing stories of Things White People Can Do To Cops And Live To Tell About

From last year:

, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:29 (four years ago) Permalink

fuck, one of my friends is in that article about the shooting in St Paul, she was working at the coffee shop nearby.

JoeStork, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:37 (four years ago) Permalink

the cops here are open-minded enough to kill white people too:

this was a couple years back, but it was a block and a half from my house, lots of my friends knew the victim (he was a musician), etc.

the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing for the shooting but fired for other reasons (yeah, ok), but i believe that external investigations into police shootings are now required in WI due to the efforts of his friends & family.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:39 (four years ago) Permalink

boy with toy sword shot from behind

mattresslessness, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:26 (four years ago) Permalink

I saw that, horrifically sad

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Multiple witnesses say he was running away AND an independent autopsy report found that he was shot in the back

Direct contradictions of the police officer's report that he 'lunged' at the officer

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:33 (four years ago) Permalink

It seems to me that police doctrine is that the instant you are suspected of unlawful behavior, you are presumed to be dangerous and are fair game for any amount of force to be used against you, with the idea that it is far better that you are killed or wounded than any police officer ever be hurt. This doctrine goes back a very long time in the USA, but the difference now is that it has become officially recognized and codified by the legal system and courts.

It apparently does not matter whether the suspicion is justified or not. It apparently does not matter whether you present any clear or present danger by your actions. So long as the officer "felt threatened", any amount of force is justified to nullify that imagined threat. In practice, this, of course, nullifies the entire concept of "excessive force".

Aimless, Monday, 15 September 2014 19:28 (four years ago) Permalink

Autopsy report shows police shot Darrien Hunt in the back, lawyer says

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 12:17 (four years ago) Permalink

“We haven’t even interviewed the officers yet,” said Taylor. “We’ve talked briefly with them just to kind of get an idea of what the scene was at the time.” He said officers were typically interviewed within 48-72 hours of a shooting. One is now scheduled to be interviewed on Tuesday and the other on Thursday, more than a week after the shooting, he said.

“I’m stunned. I find that almost incomprehensible,” Edwards, the attorney for Hunt’s family, said after being informed of this by the Guardian. “You want to speak with the officers almost immediately afterwards, when their memories are fresh and before they have had a chance to corroborate their stories.”

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 14:39 (four years ago) Permalink

jesus. i live in NY and hadn't heard about that Anna Chambers thing

Nhex, Thursday, 8 February 2018 01:59 (one year ago) Permalink

i think someone bumped another thread about this a couple weeks ago but is there any non-local news coverage (other than one nyt article) about the baltimore police trial? is it that boring and common to have cops rob people now?

assawoman bay (harbl), Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:05 (one year ago) Permalink


mookieproof, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:55 (one year ago) Permalink

it's kind of in the mass shootings of 5 people or less category. definitely noteworthy, but no longer national news

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:57 (one year ago) Permalink

kind of fucked up

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 02:58 (one year ago) Permalink

i just assume most cops are doing some kind of dirt now

j., Thursday, 8 February 2018 03:04 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah, it's true, what karl said. i just have so much to say about how sublimely bad these cops were. and how many other, un-charged cops they have testified about, and how people are still on this "but most cops are still heroes who keep my family safe" tip.

assawoman bay (harbl), Friday, 9 February 2018 01:24 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
two months pass...

This video of police entering Chelsea Manning's home with guns drawn for a "wellness check" is extremely disturbing. This is how people with mental health issues end up dead. by @micahflee @alicesperi

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) June 5, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 16:26 (eleven months ago) Permalink


The leader of a rogue Baltimore police unit has been sentenced to 25 years in prison.

Ex-police sergeant Wayne Earl Jenkins, 37, led the elite Gun Trace Task Force until his arrest along with almost every member of the unit in March 2017.

He admitted robbing Baltimore citizens, planting drugs on innocent people and re-selling seized drugs such as heroin, cocaine and prescription painkillers.

Prosecutors depicted him as the rogue officers' once untouchable chief....

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:16 (eleven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

After A White Cop Shot A Black Man, He Sued The City For Racial Discrimination

After fatal shootings, police officers may lose their jobs, but they rarely get prison time. This cop walked away with a settlement.

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 June 2018 03:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

This is very common in policing. Looking back on my career, I realize just how often I acted similarly and didn’t even realize it. It was subconscious. I was trained and subtly incentivized to do so. You intentionally create conflict and manufacture noncompliance in order to build your stop into an arrest situation. Because that’s what generations of law enforcers who have been steeped in a fear-based, comply or else, us-vs.-them mind-set do. They arrest people. Arrests are a primary measure of productivity and gives the appearance your department has solved a problem.

Most aggressive cops have honed this to an art. They are savvy, know exactly how to weaponize numerous petty laws, ordinances, use-of-force policy and procedure against citizens. This cop was off his game and clumsily went through the motions like a desperate door-to-door perfume salesman. Except when cops manufacture a “sale” like this, the “customer” ends up arrested, criminalized, emotionally and financially devastated, not to mention possibly physically beaten or worse. And the justice system will deem it legal, even when it isn’t.

As far as the police leadership and prosecutors, they knew exactly what they were doing. If someone makes a complaint, you find something, anything to charge them with.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:00 (ten months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Wow, those are some brave and brilliant people.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 9 August 2018 08:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

So hey the police in NYC want to give average Joes $500 for helping them beat people up.

Eliza D., Thursday, 23 August 2018 12:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

wtf an actual murder conviction for a cop murdering an unarmed black teen what country is this

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 19:48 (eight months ago) Permalink


DJI, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 20:03 (eight months ago) Permalink

He was a cop when he killed the kid

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 20:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

key info in there struck me as But his partner told jurors he didn't fear for his life

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 20:09 (eight months ago) Permalink

Xpost yea what is the point of that distinction?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 23:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

Just wondering if current cops have more of a quid pro quo relationship with prosecutors than former cops.

DJI, Tuesday, 28 August 2018 23:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

goddamn, and here i was just joking today about hell freezing over

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 23:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

A new threshold of police brutality has been passed: Dallas Police Officer Kills Her Neighbor in His Apartment, Saying She Mistook It for Her Own

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 8 September 2018 02:47 (eight months ago) Permalink

we’d be here for days if i listed all the questions i have about this one

just... seriously wtf

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 14:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

Oh i guarantee this explanation will give way to something more sinister soon. Esp since the cops are looking to arrest her and not defending her with some bullshit defense

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 September 2018 14:25 (eight months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

By 2015, business was thriving, but Matt Manning, Gonzalez’s then-law partner and now chief deputy in the district attorney’s office, said he found Gonzalez in a mood for change one day: “He said, ‘Bro, the way it’s working, it’s not working.’ ”

Gonzalez thought defendants were routinely overcharged by authorities who wanted leverage to obtain plea deals. The then-district attorney’s office also faced accusations of hiding exculpatory evidence.

Gonzalez launched a long-shot bid to unseat a fellow Democrat in the 2016 primary. To many people’s surprise, Gonzalez won and then squeaked by a Republican in the general election that November.

Gonzalez’s opponents highlighted his tattoos and rugged image, but some supporters say the moves backfired.

“The problem with a lot of politicians is they play bigger than what they are,” said Bryan Gomez, a member of the Calaveras. “Mark didn’t roll his sleeves down over his tattoos — he rolled them up. He wasn’t ashamed of what he was.”

Suddenly, a man who once was arrested was running a 75-person prosecutor’s office with a budget of more than $4 million and promising major changes. He was sworn in while wearing a Dallas Cowboys jersey.

j., Tuesday, 20 November 2018 04:54 (six months ago) Permalink

thank you for that bright spot

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:40 (six months ago) Permalink

As one can imagine, Arctic Man revelers sometimes attract the attention of law enforcement. One such meeting led to a case called Nieves v. Bartlett that will be argued before the Supreme Court on Monday, and that may finally resolve the question of whether a citizen can ignore or even talk back to police officers without fear of consequences.

In theory, the First Amendment protects a citizen’s right to talk back. But anyone who has ever been around citizen-police confrontations knows that, on occasion, officers (who are as human as anybody else) decide they’ve had enough and place the loudmouth under arrest.

When can the citizen sue for “retaliatory arrest”? More properly, what if the citizen has done, or seems to have done, something that gives the officer “probable cause,” but that offense might have gone unnoticed except for a “retaliatory motive”—the desire to shut the citizen up?

j., Tuesday, 27 November 2018 02:13 (five months ago) Permalink

"former" doing some work there.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 30 November 2018 22:52 (five months ago) Permalink

Niagara police officer in stable condition after being shot by fellow officer

This is an odd story. Also contains a fine example of police shooting passive voice:

"I can only tell you that there was an altercation, a firearm was discharged and one officer was struck."

jmm, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:19 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

MIAMI — Police officers in Florida can avail themselves of the state’s “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law, the State Supreme Court ruled Thursday, offering broader immunity to law enforcement officers in a decision that could make it harder to hold police criminally responsible in disputed shootings.

The court said in its ruling that police officers have the same rights as other Florida citizens who win immunity from prosecution under the law.

j., Monday, 17 December 2018 02:34 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I have to say it's nice to see juries start to wise up when it comes to these trials

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 January 2019 00:10 (four months ago) Permalink

it's too bad the three cops who tried to cover up what happened were declared not guilty yesterday, though. van dyke gets 7 years, the cops who perpetuate the code of silence, which is just as big of a problem, go free

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 January 2019 02:06 (four months ago) Permalink

you guys saw he's only going to be in jail for like three years right

na (NA), Saturday, 19 January 2019 02:12 (four months ago) Permalink

doesn't really feel like a victory

na (NA), Saturday, 19 January 2019 02:12 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Jesus this story about the guy who filmed Eric Garner's murder is harrowing.

“Eat, inmate,” a CO commanded, banging Orta’s cell with a baton. The guards were all standing too close, watching too intently as the others ate. This kind of attention was unusual. He saw others from his cell block staring down into their meatloaf, forks frozen in midair.

“We’re not going anywhere until you eat,” a CO said and entered Orta’s cell. He hit Orta with his baton, hurled slurs, promised a citation for refusing orders. “How many days in SHU you want?”

Orta rattles his chair as he tells me this part of the story. “He tried to bend me up,” he says, then shows me how, miming his arms being twisted behind his back.

Some of the prisoners had eaten everything quickly, and now they had strange looks on their faces. Orta could see a man in a nearby cell. He opened his mouth and Orta leaned forward to hear what he had to say, but instead of words, blood flowed from the man’s parted lips. He was vomiting blood. Others were vomiting blood; some were on the floor of their cells, clawing at their own bodies.

Later, in depositions, the affected would say their stomachs were on fire. Some felt pain in their chests and worried they were having heart attacks. Others were so dizzy they couldn’t stand. They writhed on the floor of their cells. Some claimed the guards walked by, watching, laughing, flipping them all the bird. The stench of vomit and feces permeated the cell.

No one was taken to the infirmary. Orta had wrapped up his meatloaf in a napkin, hoping it could be tested for the poison he was certain was there. When he looked closely at the meatloaf, he saw the top was a speckled bluish-green.

Court documents filed six days later alleged that the prisoners had suffered and continued to suffer from “nausea, vomiting, pain, dizziness, aches, headaches, stomach/intestinal pains, dehydration, diarrhea, nosebleeds, throwing up blood, diarrhea with blood, and/or an overwhelming sense of illness.” The symptoms were consistent with human consumption of rat poison, and when the tainted meatloaf was finally tested, the results found that the blue-green pellets visible in the meatloaf were brodifacoum, the active ingredient in rodenticide.

DJI, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink


gbx, Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:04 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah, that's absolutely horrifying and obscene.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:59 (two months ago) Permalink

I wonder why people are skeptical of the Chicago Police Department in this Jussie Smollett business

— Chase Madar (@ChaseMadar) March 27, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 11:41 (one month ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

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