Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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fwiw I can't think of a single case where a cop was actually convicted of criminal murder charges and served time, unless it was part of some larger corruption scandal (Rampart, CRASH, New Orleans, etc.) or a cop murdered his wife or some shit. Generally speaking this just does not happen.
many xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:04 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima#Criminal_trials
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:06 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp yea i looked it up briefly and the majority of cases seemed to be corruption charges
― marcos, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:04 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah this is true
― k3vin k., Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
that wasn't murder tho. when a cop kills a person, all these other justifications are usually brought up for why, and those are leaned on very heavily by the defense. whereas there is no conceivable justification for sodomizing a suspect w a broomstick.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:20 (seven years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/us/california-homeless-beating-verdict/

these guys went to trial and got acquitted so its not always cut and dry

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:28 (seven years ago) link

i started this thread a long time ago but it kind of bricked

The most imprisoned people in history: rolling US criminal justice & law enforcement thread

can i suggest that the whole criminal justice pipeline be up for discussion here

goole, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:35 (seven years ago) link

go for it

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:43 (seven years ago) link

can we make this play when the page loads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZW_F4iuqo

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:46 (seven years ago) link

http://7online.com/archive/9440401/

"stop resisting"

Plasmon, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:38 (seven years ago) link

some good news, at least

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:42 (seven years ago) link

Best line is buried near the end: "...an investigation by Bloomfield PD's scandal plagued internal affairs division had found no wrongdoing by officers."

Aimless, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:44 (seven years ago) link

A coroner’s report obtained exclusively by NBC News directly contradicts the police version of how a 22-year-old black man died in the back seat of a Louisiana police cruiser earlier this year -- but still says the man, whose hands were cuffed behind his back, shot himself.

In a press release issued March 3, the day he died, the Louisiana State Police said Victor White III apparently shot himself in an Iberia Parish police car. According to the police statement, White had his hands cuffed behind his back when he shot himself in the back.

But according to the full final report of the Iberia Parish coroner, which was released nearly six months later and obtained exclusively by NBC News, White was shot in the front, not the back. The bullet entered his right chest and exited under his left armpit. White was left-handed, according to family members. According to the report, the forensic pathologist found gunshot residue in the wound, but not the sort of stippling that a close-range shot can sometimes produce. He also found abrasions on White’s face.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/handcuffed-black-youth-shot-himself-death-says-coroner-n185016

anonanon, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:23 (seven years ago) link

At least one person got irritated with me for declining to vote for deBlasio in the (sewn-up) general election for NYC mayor. Then he appointed old hand Bratton to be police commish, and then...

Commissioner Bill Bratton, Mayor de Blasio's choice to lead the NYPD to a new age of transparency and discipline, turned away 25% of police misconduct findings by the Civilian Complaint Review Board, opting to ignore their recommendations for disciplining misbehaving officers. This is around the same rejection rate that former commissioner Raymond Kelly maintained before leaving office at the beginning of the year.

"I suggest you come back in six months and see how we’re doing,” Bratton told the New York Times in a phone interview yesterday."Based on my eight months sitting in that chair, my sense was that CCRB was significantly overcharging and overpenalizing.”

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/27/bratton_ignored_25_of_police_miscon.php

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:00 (seven years ago) link

http://rt.com/usa/183000-police-departments-lose-military-weaponry/

Already, the investigation has found that police departments in Arizona, California, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia, and others have lost or cannot account for various types of weapons. This list includes M14 and M16 assault rifles, .45-caliber pistols, shotguns, and even vehicles.

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:01 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure a search of a few police officer homes would turn them up, tanks included.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:11 (seven years ago) link

Reminds me of back in high school a buddy of mine got a job working at a gas station and used to hand out free packs of cigarettes to the cute girls and drug dealers who came in for a few months until he was caught and arrested. Bet there are some cute girls and drug dealers in Maricopa County with some military grade weaponry now.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:13 (seven years ago) link

http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2014/08/27/minneapolis-cops-allegedly-taze-and-arrest-black-male-sitting-public-space

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:40 (seven years ago) link

I think we can expect a whole lot of shootings of people who were "charging" in the near run.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:22 (seven years ago) link

The earlier crime of vandalism appears to have been throwing rocks at cars

This whole thing of police either tasing or shooting people and then expecting them to "comply" and "cooperate" and "stop moving" is just . . . WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY????

Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:23 (seven years ago) link

“The guy charged at [the second officer], and he got about 5 feet away before the officer fired his weapon three times,” Toby said. “And the guy went down, and they got one cuff on him. They were yelling, ‘cooperate, cooperate; give me your hand, give me your hand,’ but he wouldn’t give the hand. He was kicking his legs. And I think, at that point, the guy passed away.”

*blam!* *blam!* *blam!* "cooperate! cooperate!"

Please hear me doing that in my most contemptuous imitation of a fuckwit that I can possibly muster.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I see you got to that point before me.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (seven years ago) link

sorry no time to cooperate, busy dying

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:30 (seven years ago) link

jesus fuck.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:38 (seven years ago) link

Usually, after charges of police brutality, police officials take their time reacting while they follow procedure to determine who did what. But this episode in Knoxville, Tenn., was so extreme and well-documented that the local sheriff fired the officer immediately. Also, it involved a white guy.

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:06 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:07 (seven years ago) link

busy night for these guys.

they did not shoot anybody here tho:

http://www.startribune.com/local/272992321.html

(that chase screamed by right in front of my building fyi)

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:32 (seven years ago) link

well i guess it doesn't say they didn't shoot him

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:33 (seven years ago) link

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2014/08/28/police-shoot-and-kill-man-in-ramsey

Uh what the hell is going on - this is a different story than earlier today

cops twitchy, journalists on the lookout

j., Friday, 29 August 2014 00:55 (seven years ago) link

Well except cops killing people would be reported in this town whenever and that makes 2 today and I don't remember the last time one happened

Preliminary search says three people killed by cops this month, 2 dogs no people last month, none in the rest of 2014. So yeah

http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2014/08/27/minneapolis-cops-allegedly-taze-and-arrest-black-male-sitting-public-space

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

― j., Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:46 (seven years ago) link

Twitter/Tumblr's been really good at unearthing stories of Things White People Can Do To Cops And Live To Tell About

From last year:

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Police-shooting-Beaverton-City-Hall-high-mushrooms-217458381.html

, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:29 (seven years ago) link

fuck, one of my friends is in that article about the shooting in St Paul, she was working at the coffee shop nearby.

JoeStork, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:37 (seven years ago) link

the cops here are open-minded enough to kill white people too:
http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime_and_courts/newly-released-police-records-shed-additional-light-on-paul-heenan/article_315e18ac-82e0-11e2-b277-0019bb2963f4.html

this was a couple years back, but it was a block and a half from my house, lots of my friends knew the victim (he was a musician), etc.

the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing for the shooting but fired for other reasons (yeah, ok), but i believe that external investigations into police shootings are now required in WI due to the efforts of his friends & family.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:39 (seven years ago) link

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/die-hard-director-john-mctiernan-731171

damn

goole, Monday, 8 September 2014 22:09 (seven years ago) link

boy with toy sword shot from behind

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/race-utah-police-shooting

mattresslessness, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:26 (seven years ago) link

I saw that, horrifically sad

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:29 (seven years ago) link

Multiple witnesses say he was running away AND an independent autopsy report found that he was shot in the back

Direct contradictions of the police officer's report that he 'lunged' at the officer

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-utah-police-shooting-20140914-story.html

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:33 (seven years ago) link

It seems to me that police doctrine is that the instant you are suspected of unlawful behavior, you are presumed to be dangerous and are fair game for any amount of force to be used against you, with the idea that it is far better that you are killed or wounded than any police officer ever be hurt. This doctrine goes back a very long time in the USA, but the difference now is that it has become officially recognized and codified by the legal system and courts.

It apparently does not matter whether the suspicion is justified or not. It apparently does not matter whether you present any clear or present danger by your actions. So long as the officer "felt threatened", any amount of force is justified to nullify that imagined threat. In practice, this, of course, nullifies the entire concept of "excessive force".

Aimless, Monday, 15 September 2014 19:28 (seven years ago) link

Autopsy report shows police shot Darrien Hunt in the back, lawyer says

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/darrien-hunt-carrying-toy-sword-shot-and-killed-utah-police

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 12:17 (seven years ago) link

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/16/darrien-hunt-shot-in-the-back-by-utah-police-says-family-attorney

“We haven’t even interviewed the officers yet,” said Taylor. “We’ve talked briefly with them just to kind of get an idea of what the scene was at the time.” He said officers were typically interviewed within 48-72 hours of a shooting. One is now scheduled to be interviewed on Tuesday and the other on Thursday, more than a week after the shooting, he said.

“I’m stunned. I find that almost incomprehensible,” Edwards, the attorney for Hunt’s family, said after being informed of this by the Guardian. “You want to speak with the officers almost immediately afterwards, when their memories are fresh and before they have had a chance to corroborate their stories.”

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 14:39 (seven years ago) link

I think this is frankly just true of any rural areas in the US now.

akm, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 19:24 (one month ago) link

It's always been true.

a gentle push against my Wonder Bread face (DJP), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 19:31 (one month ago) link

Content warning chait but he’s not wrong

Cops threatening to quit over vaccine mandates is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reform police departments https://t.co/iMaXlf0LMV

— Jonathan Chait (@jonathanchait) August 27, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 August 2021 14:18 (one month ago) link

“While most police officers are trying to protect people and treat the public fairly”

well, ignore this obvious falsehood and he’s right.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 27 August 2021 14:20 (one month ago) link

this charming guy who, iirc, also loudly defended the 1/6 insurrectionists:

“This has literally lit a bomb underneath the membership,” said Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara. “We’re in America, G-ddamn it. We don’t want to be forced to do anything. Period. This ain’t Nazi f---ing Germany.”

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 27 August 2021 14:31 (one month ago) link

this could also be a good opportunity for red states to recruit for cops that were recently laid off for refusing to take a vaccine

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Friday, 27 August 2021 14:33 (one month ago) link

Wow John Cataranza who could possibly accuse the cops of being entitled above-the-law nitwits who actually endanger the people they’re supposedly protecting?? You’ve really shut that argument right down

Tracer Hand, Friday, 27 August 2021 15:54 (one month ago) link

"You can't force Americans to follow rules, that's fascism," says man whose entire job is to force Americans to follow rules.

emil.y, Friday, 27 August 2021 15:56 (one month ago) link

lmao exactly

Tracer Hand, Friday, 27 August 2021 17:15 (one month ago) link

if you wanted to scream about fascists, we literally just evicted one in January, and ya didn't seem to mind, jabroni!

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 August 2021 13:51 (one month ago) link

Jaleel Stallings thought he was being shot at from an unmarked van by white supremacists. Only after he returned fire did he learn they were MPD officers.

He was charged with attempted murder, but police body cameras helped exonerate him: https://t.co/oMouea3He4 @deenafaywinter

— Minnesota Reformer (@MNReformer) September 1, 2021

JoeStork, Thursday, 2 September 2021 17:50 (one month ago) link

high related, also in Minnesota:

These stories document what Somali and Black Minnesotans have been telling those who will listen our whole lives: the systems that are supposed to protect us routinely victimize and abuse us.

Believe us when we say we desperately need to reimagine these systems. pic.twitter.com/K6PAGK7Yp6

— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) September 2, 2021

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 September 2021 18:01 (one month ago) link

pretty stoked that I’m moving to MLPS just in time to vote for dissolving the MPD

nicole, Thursday, 2 September 2021 18:43 (one month ago) link

TBF Stallings was being shot at by white supremacists.

Derek and Clive Get the Horn Street (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 2 September 2021 19:32 (one month ago) link

lol, exactly. it could be the proud boys, it could be the swat team, it could be the regular police. or it could just be some q_anon person who is saving the republic. they're all dudes in a white van shooting at you

professional anti- (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 September 2021 19:37 (one month ago) link

great bunch of lads

Is it a homeless outreach method for the deputies that are part of LA Sheriff’s Homeless OUTREACH Services Team (HOST) to tell civilians to back away from him because he, the deputy, is unvaccinated????

Seems like a weird outreach method. 🥴🤡 https://t.co/dk2WSFUkcm pic.twitter.com/Tjdy83vJdA

— Another Adam Smith 🇵🇸 (@AdamOfTheSmiths) September 8, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 21:47 (one month ago) link

Chait (ugh) was right that purging the ranks of cops of the unvaccinated might be an opportunity for reform.

Derek and Clive Get the Horn Street (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 22:06 (one month ago) link

But we'd end up with even dickier private security everywhere

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 22:11 (one month ago) link

creepy as hell

NEW: LAPD has instructed officers to collect social media information from every civilian they interview or stop, including individuals who are not arrested or accused of a crime.

Internal records obtained by the @BrennanCenter
https://t.co/f5KQJnfPIL

— Sam Levin (@SamTLevin) September 8, 2021

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:04 (one month ago) link

yiiikes. the collecting-SSNs thing, a few tweets down, is even more alarming.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 9 September 2021 16:34 (one month ago) link

I hate them all so much

The circle of cop life pic.twitter.com/k902C360nP

— Peter Frase (@pefrase) September 15, 2021

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:18 (one month ago) link

is Biden still supporting the cops in that case

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 07:06 (one month ago) link

The Minneapolis Public Safety amendment, which merely opens up the possibility of beginning the process of literally any kind of police reform, is being rat-fucked off of the ballot. I don’t think I’ve been so angry since the night Trump was elected.

Seeing the collaboration and conspiracy between the state and local “Democratic” parties (along with, obviously, their proven allies in the GOP), the media, the judiciary, the police, business elites, and what can only be described as a genuine “deep state” of unelected but powerful commissioners and city employees to kill this amendment has been revelatory—but revelation still doesn’t reform the fucking police! I’m crawling up the wall with frustration over this shit.

Dan I., Wednesday, 15 September 2021 15:17 (one month ago) link

democrats are definitely a formidable enemy of police reform. our city council refuses to do anything that comes close to reducing the power and resources police have. and the city council president is married to the state's attorney so that's cool. they just announced that they will be giving speed camera revenue to police for covid hazard pay. the police budget went up and none of them complained about it. meanwhile we appear on every conservative's list of cities that have defunded the police.

certified juice therapist (harbl), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 15:29 (one month ago) link

Interfering with media mail would draw the ire of thousands of online retail businesses, not to mention the big guns that aren't Amazon

Nhex, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:01 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

The SBA Executive Board said in a statement, “Given the severity of this matter and the uncertainty of its outcome, the SBA Executive board has requested that President Mullins resign... The day to day functioning and the important business of the SBA cannot be distracted by the existence of this investigation.”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 01:34 (one week ago) link

FLASH

FLASH: @SBANYPD announces Ed Mullins has resigned pic.twitter.com/vngQ56ftBy

— Myles N. Miller (@MylesMill) October 6, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 01:36 (one week ago) link

fucking awesome

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 01:43 (one week ago) link

get pat lynch too

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 01:44 (one week ago) link

GIT SOME

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 10:10 (one week ago) link

I always feel a sense of doom when I see this thread pop up. glad it was good news this time!

BrianB, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 12:46 (one week ago) link

Nice.

ian, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:35 (one week ago) link

"Like all of us, Ed Mullins is entitled to the presumption of innocence, and we ask you to withhold judgment until all the facts.."

FUCK. YOU.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:37 (one week ago) link

Yes but by "us" he only means other police officers.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:51 (one week ago) link

Yeah, true. I just get so angry when they suddenly trot that shit out when its one of their own.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:53 (one week ago) link

But, you know, Ed Mullins was no saint.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:54 (one week ago) link

Perhaps slightly off-topic, but related to discussion of police brutality...this might be one of the most fucked up stories I've ever read.

https://www.propublica.org/article/black-children-were-jailed-for-a-crime-that-doesnt-exist

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:32 (four days ago) link

oh cool, that's where my ex moved with our kids

gonna sleep great tonight

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Friday, 15 October 2021 18:27 (four days ago) link

Yeah that awful story has made a pretty big splash here in TN, though maybe not enough to get the clearly psychopathic judge voted off the bench next year. Just stunning.

Isn’t Ruf’ton near Johnson City? Deep Appalachia…

Although with due respect I do wonder why anyone of sound mind would move to TN. I often question my own sanity when I’m visiting SC.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 15 October 2021 18:48 (four days ago) link

The story concerns Rutherford, a suburb of Murfreesboro... right in the middle of the state, near Nashville.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 15 October 2021 19:02 (four days ago) link

This video is still up. Sickening shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igoy0sq4noQ

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Friday, 15 October 2021 19:15 (four days ago) link

Rutherford County is, unfortunately, not some podunk rural outpost. (Not that this would be more acceptable in those places, but it would affect fewer children.) It's the fifth-largest county in the state, and one of the fastest-growing. Home to a state university and several Nashville bedroom communities.

Although with due respect I do wonder why anyone of sound mind would move to TN.

Yeah. It didn't seem quite as suspect when I first moved here in '94. It still had a Democratic governor and two Democratic senators at that point. Not great ones, obviously, but it did not feel like the hard-right bastion it has since become. And it's getting worse. I wouldn't move here now myself, probably, even though I still love my city.

Capitol Police officer charged with obstructing Jan. 6 investigation https://t.co/151B05R4jp

— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) October 15, 2021

“Hey (Person 1), im a capitol police officer who agrees with your political stance. Take down the part about being in the building they are currently investigating and everyone who was in the building is going to (be) charged. Just looking out!" Riley wrote to the person, according to court documents.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 October 2021 19:37 (four days ago) link

I went to school at Murfreesboro, it was dangerous and racist as fuck back in the nineties and i'm not stunned that hasn't changed.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/threats-swirl-in-town-sei_n_953997
https://www.murfreesborovoice.com/article/3913/opinion-stop-honoring-racism-remove-the-johnny-reb-statue

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 October 2021 21:19 (four days ago) link

that article makes me want to hit so many people

Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 October 2021 21:43 (four days ago) link

I'm not a violent person but if you did it I'd be happy to commit "criminal responsibility."

DJI, Friday, 15 October 2021 21:48 (four days ago) link

very sad

More, per sources:
Upon arrival at HQ, officers are given the chance to comply w/ mandate. If they decline & refuse a subsequent order, the officer is then taken to HR where they are stripped of police powers and ordered to turn over their police ID, star and hat shield.

— Sam Charles (@samjcharles) October 18, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 October 2021 20:34 (yesterday) link


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