Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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fwiw I can't think of a single case where a cop was actually convicted of criminal murder charges and served time, unless it was part of some larger corruption scandal (Rampart, CRASH, New Orleans, etc.) or a cop murdered his wife or some shit. Generally speaking this just does not happen.
many xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:04 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:06 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp yea i looked it up briefly and the majority of cases seemed to be corruption charges
― marcos, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:04 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah this is true
― k3vin k., Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
that wasn't murder tho. when a cop kills a person, all these other justifications are usually brought up for why, and those are leaned on very heavily by the defense. whereas there is no conceivable justification for sodomizing a suspect w a broomstick.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these guys went to trial and got acquitted so its not always cut and dry

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:28 (six years ago) link

i started this thread a long time ago but it kind of bricked

The most imprisoned people in history: rolling US criminal justice & law enforcement thread

can i suggest that the whole criminal justice pipeline be up for discussion here

goole, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:35 (six years ago) link

go for it

can we make this play when the page loads:

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:46 (six years ago) link

"stop resisting"

Plasmon, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:38 (six years ago) link

some good news, at least

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:42 (six years ago) link

Best line is buried near the end: " investigation by Bloomfield PD's scandal plagued internal affairs division had found no wrongdoing by officers."

Aimless, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:44 (six years ago) link

A coroner’s report obtained exclusively by NBC News directly contradicts the police version of how a 22-year-old black man died in the back seat of a Louisiana police cruiser earlier this year -- but still says the man, whose hands were cuffed behind his back, shot himself.

In a press release issued March 3, the day he died, the Louisiana State Police said Victor White III apparently shot himself in an Iberia Parish police car. According to the police statement, White had his hands cuffed behind his back when he shot himself in the back.

But according to the full final report of the Iberia Parish coroner, which was released nearly six months later and obtained exclusively by NBC News, White was shot in the front, not the back. The bullet entered his right chest and exited under his left armpit. White was left-handed, according to family members. According to the report, the forensic pathologist found gunshot residue in the wound, but not the sort of stippling that a close-range shot can sometimes produce. He also found abrasions on White’s face.

anonanon, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:23 (six years ago) link

At least one person got irritated with me for declining to vote for deBlasio in the (sewn-up) general election for NYC mayor. Then he appointed old hand Bratton to be police commish, and then...

Commissioner Bill Bratton, Mayor de Blasio's choice to lead the NYPD to a new age of transparency and discipline, turned away 25% of police misconduct findings by the Civilian Complaint Review Board, opting to ignore their recommendations for disciplining misbehaving officers. This is around the same rejection rate that former commissioner Raymond Kelly maintained before leaving office at the beginning of the year.

"I suggest you come back in six months and see how we’re doing,” Bratton told the New York Times in a phone interview yesterday."Based on my eight months sitting in that chair, my sense was that CCRB was significantly overcharging and overpenalizing.”

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:00 (six years ago) link

Already, the investigation has found that police departments in Arizona, California, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia, and others have lost or cannot account for various types of weapons. This list includes M14 and M16 assault rifles, .45-caliber pistols, shotguns, and even vehicles.

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:01 (six years ago) link

I'm sure a search of a few police officer homes would turn them up, tanks included.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:11 (six years ago) link

Reminds me of back in high school a buddy of mine got a job working at a gas station and used to hand out free packs of cigarettes to the cute girls and drug dealers who came in for a few months until he was caught and arrested. Bet there are some cute girls and drug dealers in Maricopa County with some military grade weaponry now.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:13 (six years ago) link

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:40 (six years ago) link

I think we can expect a whole lot of shootings of people who were "charging" in the near run.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:22 (six years ago) link

The earlier crime of vandalism appears to have been throwing rocks at cars

This whole thing of police either tasing or shooting people and then expecting them to "comply" and "cooperate" and "stop moving" is just . . . WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY????

“The guy charged at [the second officer], and he got about 5 feet away before the officer fired his weapon three times,” Toby said. “And the guy went down, and they got one cuff on him. They were yelling, ‘cooperate, cooperate; give me your hand, give me your hand,’ but he wouldn’t give the hand. He was kicking his legs. And I think, at that point, the guy passed away.”

*blam!* *blam!* *blam!* "cooperate! cooperate!"

Please hear me doing that in my most contemptuous imitation of a fuckwit that I can possibly muster.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (six years ago) link

Oh, I see you got to that point before me.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (six years ago) link

sorry no time to cooperate, busy dying

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:30 (six years ago) link

jesus fuck.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:38 (six years ago) link

Usually, after charges of police brutality, police officials take their time reacting while they follow procedure to determine who did what. But this episode in Knoxville, Tenn., was so extreme and well-documented that the local sheriff fired the officer immediately. Also, it involved a white guy.

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:06 (six years ago) link

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:07 (six years ago) link

busy night for these guys.

they did not shoot anybody here tho:

(that chase screamed by right in front of my building fyi)

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:32 (six years ago) link

well i guess it doesn't say they didn't shoot him

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:33 (six years ago) link

Uh what the hell is going on - this is a different story than earlier today

cops twitchy, journalists on the lookout

j., Friday, 29 August 2014 00:55 (six years ago) link

Well except cops killing people would be reported in this town whenever and that makes 2 today and I don't remember the last time one happened

Preliminary search says three people killed by cops this month, 2 dogs no people last month, none in the rest of 2014. So yeah

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

― j., Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:46 (six years ago) link

Twitter/Tumblr's been really good at unearthing stories of Things White People Can Do To Cops And Live To Tell About

From last year:

, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:29 (six years ago) link

fuck, one of my friends is in that article about the shooting in St Paul, she was working at the coffee shop nearby.

JoeStork, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:37 (six years ago) link

the cops here are open-minded enough to kill white people too:

this was a couple years back, but it was a block and a half from my house, lots of my friends knew the victim (he was a musician), etc.

the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing for the shooting but fired for other reasons (yeah, ok), but i believe that external investigations into police shootings are now required in WI due to the efforts of his friends & family.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:39 (six years ago) link

boy with toy sword shot from behind

mattresslessness, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:26 (six years ago) link

I saw that, horrifically sad

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:29 (six years ago) link

Multiple witnesses say he was running away AND an independent autopsy report found that he was shot in the back

Direct contradictions of the police officer's report that he 'lunged' at the officer

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:33 (six years ago) link

It seems to me that police doctrine is that the instant you are suspected of unlawful behavior, you are presumed to be dangerous and are fair game for any amount of force to be used against you, with the idea that it is far better that you are killed or wounded than any police officer ever be hurt. This doctrine goes back a very long time in the USA, but the difference now is that it has become officially recognized and codified by the legal system and courts.

It apparently does not matter whether the suspicion is justified or not. It apparently does not matter whether you present any clear or present danger by your actions. So long as the officer "felt threatened", any amount of force is justified to nullify that imagined threat. In practice, this, of course, nullifies the entire concept of "excessive force".

Aimless, Monday, 15 September 2014 19:28 (six years ago) link

Autopsy report shows police shot Darrien Hunt in the back, lawyer says

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 12:17 (six years ago) link

“We haven’t even interviewed the officers yet,” said Taylor. “We’ve talked briefly with them just to kind of get an idea of what the scene was at the time.” He said officers were typically interviewed within 48-72 hours of a shooting. One is now scheduled to be interviewed on Tuesday and the other on Thursday, more than a week after the shooting, he said.

“I’m stunned. I find that almost incomprehensible,” Edwards, the attorney for Hunt’s family, said after being informed of this by the Guardian. “You want to speak with the officers almost immediately afterwards, when their memories are fresh and before they have had a chance to corroborate their stories.”

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 14:39 (six years ago) link

(actually it would have been the second woodringism I posted this week for your amusement)

armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, 27 March 2021 04:19 (three weeks ago) link

That’s where that other bit came from!

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 27 March 2021 04:46 (three weeks ago) link

I knew it seemed familiar

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 27 March 2021 04:47 (three weeks ago) link

A long-time Seattle City Councilmember and former Council President is running for Mayor with police reform as one of his platform planks.

Last week, he revealed this plank with an announcement that it is one of his highest priorities, and detailed his reform policy.

"The other day, I watched the 8 minutes and 46 seconds of George Floyd's murder, and I'm going to ask voluntarily that every sworn police officer watch that 8 minutes and 46-second video, and I'm going to ask them to sign a statement that says —a very simple statement— that The Inhumane Treatment Of Fellow Human Beings Will Not Be Tolerated In Seattle."

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 2 April 2021 05:31 (two weeks ago) link

lol he’s got Swiss cheese boomer brain

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 2 April 2021 05:32 (two weeks ago) link

Don’t leave “mayor for five days after the child rapist resigned in disgrace” off his list of accomplishments!!

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 2 April 2021 05:33 (two weeks ago) link

imo quitting ASAP is a point in his favour

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 2 April 2021 05:36 (two weeks ago) link

Yesterday, he followed up with further details of how he intends to root-and-stem reform a police department that has been under a consent decree from the DOJ for *checks watch* nine years without achieving reform:

Harrell explained that SPD culture change will start by identifying "20 to 30" informal leaders; people in an organization who say "what's tolerated or not" and "what's cool or uncool."

To further this mission, I will work to personally recruit officers looking to be internal change agents, heroes within the department to help coach, train, love and inspire our officers to be the department we all deserve.

Having thus achieved internal change, he has a concrete plan to sustain it through positive reinforcement:

"If today an African American was not shot at the hands of police we're gonna celebrate today," Harrell said. "And every Friday we're gonna celebrate."

Because it would be unfair to deprive the reformed department of a weekly party if they only manage to not murder a Black person 2 days, 5 days, or 0 days per week.

He's also going to determine, "for the first time", how to address institutional racism "With the assistance of experts in technology, the developer community, data mining and the use of test cases".

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 2 April 2021 05:45 (two weeks ago) link

Really giving Goodspaceguy a run for his money

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 2 April 2021 07:11 (two weeks ago) link

Due to preference trading, a dude just got elected to the Western Australian state senate equivalent on the single issue of introducing daylight saving, with a total of 98 votes, before revealing that he lives in Seattle. Perhaps we can set up a job swap with Goodspaceguy.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 2 April 2021 07:47 (two weeks ago) link

prosecution doing decent job in chauvin trial, but i get a pit in my stomach a few times daily

global tetrahedron, Friday, 2 April 2021 15:04 (two weeks ago) link

it's really hard to watch

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 2 April 2021 15:06 (two weeks ago) link

Having had a run-in with the Seattle PD when I was younger and living a life of crime, I can attest to their racism first-hand. Won't go into it more than that.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, 2 April 2021 15:49 (two weeks ago) link

and another thing: Bruce isn't butthurt. Please put his op-ed in the paper saying he's not butthurt.

I don’t take issue with anyone questioning my proposals – there is always room for dialogue and improvement. But I do believe that selectively ridiculing these two out-of-the-box calls for culture change without including the voices of people who may support them comes from a place of privilege.

Who knows better how ineffective reform efforts have been on the entrenched racism of the SPD than someone who personally failed to reform it and continued to fund it for the past decade? In conclusion, please elect me to continue to fully fund, and pass actively useless laws to reform, the police.

To keep doing the same thing – or to focus only on punitive actions like arbitrary defunding – is to perpetuate an SPD mired in dysfunction, clinging to outmoded and racially biased norms, and led by individuals motivated by fear and division, not unity and commitment to change.

We know this because we live it: Despite a decade of Department of Justice oversight, citizen police commission review, passage of statewide de-escalation mandates, and even the anti-bias laws I passed during my City Council tenure, the culture at SPD has not changed. We still see Black and Brown Seattle residents victimized, we still see foot-dragging and refusal to adopt basic reforms.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 2 April 2021 22:54 (two weeks ago) link

13 year old who still played with Hot Wheels killed by pigs.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 April 2021 21:38 (two weeks ago) link

this just aired recently on pbs

sarahell, Monday, 5 April 2021 04:25 (one week ago) link

the upshot of it was: Woodard was a uniquely powerful witness and spokesperson against racist cops because instead of murdering him, the cops merely blinded him for ... not saying "yes, sir" and before that "insisting politely that the greyhound bus driver (white) stop at the next town so he could go to the bathroom

sarahell, Monday, 5 April 2021 04:28 (one week ago) link

that is fucking ridiculous

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 13:36 (one week ago) link

i wonder how 73k for a dog (that they shot) stacks up against some of the human rights violation settlements Washington PD has made

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 15:43 (one week ago) link

BREAKING: Officer Kim Potter resigns after fatally shooting Daunte Wright

— Axios (@axios) April 13, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:36 (five days ago) link

'Every minute'

BREAKING: Brooklyn Center police officer Kim Potter has resigned effective immediately. The information comes from the police union representing the department's officers. Here's Potter's resignation letter #DaunteWright #wcco

— Jennifer Mayerle (@jennifermayerle) April 13, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:37 (five days ago) link

I'm tired

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:39 (five days ago) link

it's hardly the real problem here but as a publicist it amazes me they don't take five minutes to give those kind of public statements to a crisis management agent to make sure they don't read "i've enjoyed my time murdering people here but i'm making the spot hot so i gotta jet"

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 21:14 (five days ago) link

Notably the police chief resigned as well, which given his own disaster of a press conference, well.

Just now:

The officer who shot and killed Daunte Wright has been charged with second degree manslaughter. Kim Potter submitted her resignation yesterday. The charge carries a maximum of up to 10 years in prison. #DaunteWright

— Omar Jimenez (@OmarJimenez) April 14, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 16:33 (four days ago) link

"Slash their tires so they can't drive away if you need to!" Cops in Minnesota created a warzone-like state and arrested #DaunteWright protesters, along with media covering the events in a highly disturbing night.– @JonFarinaPhoto fearlessly reports.

— Status Coup News (@StatusCoup) April 14, 2021

they are doing such a great job handling this latest killing by a police

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 16:53 (four days ago) link

"trooper-involved" "ended in the death"

DEVELOPING: Maryland State Police are investigating a trooper-involved fatal shooting in Leonardtown that ended in the death of a 16-year-old.

— ABC News (@ABC) April 14, 2021

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 17:16 (four days ago) link

at least the headline says it so why not say the same thing in the tweet

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 17:18 (four days ago) link

cop-speak is the worst. what was the one case where they shot and killed someone and the official line was "the deceased was killed by a bullet"

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 17:40 (four days ago) link

Things could escalate in Chicago today.

BREAKING: The video of Adam Toledo will be released at 2:30pm today, according to Mayor Lori Lightfoot

— Eileen O’Gorman (@Eileen_OGorman) April 15, 2021

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:54 (three days ago) link

More context:

Chicago is releasing bodycam video of the police killing of #AdamToledo, who was a 13-year-old boy.

Police claim there was an "armed confrontation" and shot him in the chest. The mayor says she saw "no evidence whatsoever" that Toledo shot at police.

(Photo: Elizabeth Toledo)

— AJ+ (@ajplus) April 15, 2021

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:58 (three days ago) link

btw, word is already going out around here - please do NOT share that video, once it's public

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:00 (three days ago) link


G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:32 (three days ago) link

Police claim there was an "armed confrontation"

Police are perfectly capable of characterizing having a small rock thrown at them from a distance as an "armed confrontation".

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:37 (three days ago) link

chauvin case wrapped up testimony, closing statements monday

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:53 (three days ago) link

Hands up, as the officer instructed.

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Thursday, 15 April 2021 19:47 (three days ago) link

toledo footage is exactly as bad as you'd expect.

akm, Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:25 (three days ago) link

Fuck the police.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:01 (three days ago) link

I just have no idea what to say beyond “I’m worried about early next week.”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:09 (three days ago) link

(I haven’t watched any of these videos.)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:09 (three days ago) link

For any of you who want to know about what the video of Adam Toledo shows but do not want to see the video or any images of it, we've created that version of the story for you. @BlockClubCHI

— Dawn Rhodes 😷 (@rhodes_dawn) April 15, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:12 (three days ago) link


P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:26 (three days ago) link

FFS there is no end to this shit

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 April 2021 23:05 (three days ago) link

By the way, remember when police departments were caught using cutouts of kids and pregnant women for target practice? The line of targets was called "no more hesitation."

This is what "no hesitation" policing gets you.

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) April 15, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 16 April 2021 01:39 (two days ago) link

Fucking sickening

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 01:46 (two days ago) link

The cop who shoots pictures of his own children...

— Cameron (@ComfortableCam) April 15, 2021

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Friday, 16 April 2021 02:11 (two days ago) link

Chris Benoit Police Training Method

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 02:18 (two days ago) link

fucking chickenshit headline writers "appears to show" toledo with his hands raised fuck you

new display name (Left), Friday, 16 April 2021 07:48 (two days ago) link

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