Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

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fwiw I can't think of a single case where a cop was actually convicted of criminal murder charges and served time, unless it was part of some larger corruption scandal (Rampart, CRASH, New Orleans, etc.) or a cop murdered his wife or some shit. Generally speaking this just does not happen.
many xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:04 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:06 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp yea i looked it up briefly and the majority of cases seemed to be corruption charges
― marcos, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and obviously any cop going to prison for murder of a civilian is probably gonna get shanked real quick
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:04 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah this is true
― k3vin k., Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had forgotten, but one of Abner Louima's cop attackers is serving 30 years.
that wasn't murder tho. when a cop kills a person, all these other justifications are usually brought up for why, and those are leaned on very heavily by the defense. whereas there is no conceivable justification for sodomizing a suspect w a broomstick.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these guys went to trial and got acquitted so its not always cut and dry

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:28 (four years ago) link

i started this thread a long time ago but it kind of bricked

The most imprisoned people in history: rolling US criminal justice & law enforcement thread

can i suggest that the whole criminal justice pipeline be up for discussion here

goole, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:35 (four years ago) link

go for it

can we make this play when the page loads:

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:46 (four years ago) link

"stop resisting"

Plasmon, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:38 (four years ago) link

some good news, at least

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:42 (four years ago) link

Best line is buried near the end: " investigation by Bloomfield PD's scandal plagued internal affairs division had found no wrongdoing by officers."

Aimless, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:44 (four years ago) link

A coroner’s report obtained exclusively by NBC News directly contradicts the police version of how a 22-year-old black man died in the back seat of a Louisiana police cruiser earlier this year -- but still says the man, whose hands were cuffed behind his back, shot himself.

In a press release issued March 3, the day he died, the Louisiana State Police said Victor White III apparently shot himself in an Iberia Parish police car. According to the police statement, White had his hands cuffed behind his back when he shot himself in the back.

But according to the full final report of the Iberia Parish coroner, which was released nearly six months later and obtained exclusively by NBC News, White was shot in the front, not the back. The bullet entered his right chest and exited under his left armpit. White was left-handed, according to family members. According to the report, the forensic pathologist found gunshot residue in the wound, but not the sort of stippling that a close-range shot can sometimes produce. He also found abrasions on White’s face.

anonanon, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:23 (four years ago) link

At least one person got irritated with me for declining to vote for deBlasio in the (sewn-up) general election for NYC mayor. Then he appointed old hand Bratton to be police commish, and then...

Commissioner Bill Bratton, Mayor de Blasio's choice to lead the NYPD to a new age of transparency and discipline, turned away 25% of police misconduct findings by the Civilian Complaint Review Board, opting to ignore their recommendations for disciplining misbehaving officers. This is around the same rejection rate that former commissioner Raymond Kelly maintained before leaving office at the beginning of the year.

"I suggest you come back in six months and see how we’re doing,” Bratton told the New York Times in a phone interview yesterday."Based on my eight months sitting in that chair, my sense was that CCRB was significantly overcharging and overpenalizing.”

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 18:00 (four years ago) link

Already, the investigation has found that police departments in Arizona, California, Mississippi, Missouri, Georgia, and others have lost or cannot account for various types of weapons. This list includes M14 and M16 assault rifles, .45-caliber pistols, shotguns, and even vehicles.

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:01 (four years ago) link

I'm sure a search of a few police officer homes would turn them up, tanks included.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:11 (four years ago) link

Reminds me of back in high school a buddy of mine got a job working at a gas station and used to hand out free packs of cigarettes to the cute girls and drug dealers who came in for a few months until he was caught and arrested. Bet there are some cute girls and drug dealers in Maricopa County with some military grade weaponry now.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:13 (four years ago) link

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

j., Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:40 (four years ago) link

I think we can expect a whole lot of shootings of people who were "charging" in the near run.

Three Word Username, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:22 (four years ago) link

The earlier crime of vandalism appears to have been throwing rocks at cars

This whole thing of police either tasing or shooting people and then expecting them to "comply" and "cooperate" and "stop moving" is just . . . WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY????

Welcome to my spooooooky carnival! Hope I don't... blow your mind! (Phil D.), Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:23 (four years ago) link

“The guy charged at [the second officer], and he got about 5 feet away before the officer fired his weapon three times,” Toby said. “And the guy went down, and they got one cuff on him. They were yelling, ‘cooperate, cooperate; give me your hand, give me your hand,’ but he wouldn’t give the hand. He was kicking his legs. And I think, at that point, the guy passed away.”

*blam!* *blam!* *blam!* "cooperate! cooperate!"

Please hear me doing that in my most contemptuous imitation of a fuckwit that I can possibly muster.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (four years ago) link

Oh, I see you got to that point before me.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:26 (four years ago) link

sorry no time to cooperate, busy dying

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:30 (four years ago) link

jesus fuck.

how's life, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:38 (four years ago) link

Usually, after charges of police brutality, police officials take their time reacting while they follow procedure to determine who did what. But this episode in Knoxville, Tenn., was so extreme and well-documented that the local sheriff fired the officer immediately. Also, it involved a white guy.

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:06 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too

, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:07 (four years ago) link

busy night for these guys.

they did not shoot anybody here tho:

(that chase screamed by right in front of my building fyi)

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:32 (four years ago) link

well i guess it doesn't say they didn't shoot him

goole, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:33 (four years ago) link

Uh what the hell is going on - this is a different story than earlier today

cops twitchy, journalists on the lookout

j., Friday, 29 August 2014 00:55 (four years ago) link

Well except cops killing people would be reported in this town whenever and that makes 2 today and I don't remember the last time one happened

Preliminary search says three people killed by cops this month, 2 dogs no people last month, none in the rest of 2014. So yeah

i never hear a reason on the video—just 'do what we say or else'

― j., Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Friday, 29 August 2014 14:46 (four years ago) link

Twitter/Tumblr's been really good at unearthing stories of Things White People Can Do To Cops And Live To Tell About

From last year:

, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:29 (four years ago) link

fuck, one of my friends is in that article about the shooting in St Paul, she was working at the coffee shop nearby.

JoeStork, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:37 (four years ago) link

the cops here are open-minded enough to kill white people too:

this was a couple years back, but it was a block and a half from my house, lots of my friends knew the victim (he was a musician), etc.

the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing for the shooting but fired for other reasons (yeah, ok), but i believe that external investigations into police shootings are now required in WI due to the efforts of his friends & family.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:39 (four years ago) link


goole, Monday, 8 September 2014 22:09 (four years ago) link

boy with toy sword shot from behind

mattresslessness, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:26 (four years ago) link

I saw that, horrifically sad

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:29 (four years ago) link

Multiple witnesses say he was running away AND an independent autopsy report found that he was shot in the back

Direct contradictions of the police officer's report that he 'lunged' at the officer

, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:33 (four years ago) link

It seems to me that police doctrine is that the instant you are suspected of unlawful behavior, you are presumed to be dangerous and are fair game for any amount of force to be used against you, with the idea that it is far better that you are killed or wounded than any police officer ever be hurt. This doctrine goes back a very long time in the USA, but the difference now is that it has become officially recognized and codified by the legal system and courts.

It apparently does not matter whether the suspicion is justified or not. It apparently does not matter whether you present any clear or present danger by your actions. So long as the officer "felt threatened", any amount of force is justified to nullify that imagined threat. In practice, this, of course, nullifies the entire concept of "excessive force".

Aimless, Monday, 15 September 2014 19:28 (four years ago) link

Autopsy report shows police shot Darrien Hunt in the back, lawyer says

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 12:17 (four years ago) link

“We haven’t even interviewed the officers yet,” said Taylor. “We’ve talked briefly with them just to kind of get an idea of what the scene was at the time.” He said officers were typically interviewed within 48-72 hours of a shooting. One is now scheduled to be interviewed on Tuesday and the other on Thursday, more than a week after the shooting, he said.

“I’m stunned. I find that almost incomprehensible,” Edwards, the attorney for Hunt’s family, said after being informed of this by the Guardian. “You want to speak with the officers almost immediately afterwards, when their memories are fresh and before they have had a chance to corroborate their stories.”

Andy K, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 14:39 (four years ago) link

bye, fucker

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 January 2019 00:09 (seven months ago) link

I have to say it's nice to see juries start to wise up when it comes to these trials

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 January 2019 00:10 (seven months ago) link

it's too bad the three cops who tried to cover up what happened were declared not guilty yesterday, though. van dyke gets 7 years, the cops who perpetuate the code of silence, which is just as big of a problem, go free

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 January 2019 02:06 (seven months ago) link

you guys saw he's only going to be in jail for like three years right

na (NA), Saturday, 19 January 2019 02:12 (seven months ago) link

doesn't really feel like a victory

na (NA), Saturday, 19 January 2019 02:12 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Jesus this story about the guy who filmed Eric Garner's murder is harrowing.

“Eat, inmate,” a CO commanded, banging Orta’s cell with a baton. The guards were all standing too close, watching too intently as the others ate. This kind of attention was unusual. He saw others from his cell block staring down into their meatloaf, forks frozen in midair.

“We’re not going anywhere until you eat,” a CO said and entered Orta’s cell. He hit Orta with his baton, hurled slurs, promised a citation for refusing orders. “How many days in SHU you want?”

Orta rattles his chair as he tells me this part of the story. “He tried to bend me up,” he says, then shows me how, miming his arms being twisted behind his back.

Some of the prisoners had eaten everything quickly, and now they had strange looks on their faces. Orta could see a man in a nearby cell. He opened his mouth and Orta leaned forward to hear what he had to say, but instead of words, blood flowed from the man’s parted lips. He was vomiting blood. Others were vomiting blood; some were on the floor of their cells, clawing at their own bodies.

Later, in depositions, the affected would say their stomachs were on fire. Some felt pain in their chests and worried they were having heart attacks. Others were so dizzy they couldn’t stand. They writhed on the floor of their cells. Some claimed the guards walked by, watching, laughing, flipping them all the bird. The stench of vomit and feces permeated the cell.

No one was taken to the infirmary. Orta had wrapped up his meatloaf in a napkin, hoping it could be tested for the poison he was certain was there. When he looked closely at the meatloaf, he saw the top was a speckled bluish-green.

Court documents filed six days later alleged that the prisoners had suffered and continued to suffer from “nausea, vomiting, pain, dizziness, aches, headaches, stomach/intestinal pains, dehydration, diarrhea, nosebleeds, throwing up blood, diarrhea with blood, and/or an overwhelming sense of illness.” The symptoms were consistent with human consumption of rat poison, and when the tainted meatloaf was finally tested, the results found that the blue-green pellets visible in the meatloaf were brodifacoum, the active ingredient in rodenticide.

DJI, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 16:49 (five months ago) link


gbx, Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:04 (five months ago) link

yeah, that's absolutely horrifying and obscene.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 14 March 2019 01:59 (five months ago) link

I wonder why people are skeptical of the Chicago Police Department in this Jussie Smollett business

— Chase Madar (@ChaseMadar) March 27, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 March 2019 11:41 (four months ago) link

four weeks pass...
one month passes...

Of the pages of officers whom the Plain View researchers could positively identify, about 1 in 5 of the current officers, and 2 in 5 of the retired officers, made public posts or comments that met that threshold — typically by displaying bias, applauding violence, scoffing at due process, or using dehumanizing language. The officers mocked Mexicans, women, and black people, celebrated the Confederate flag, and showed a man wearing a kaffiyeh scarf in the crosshairs of a gun.

“Just another savage that needs to be exterminated,” wrote Booker Smith Jr., a Dallas police sergeant, about a homicide at a Dollar General store. “Execute all involved,” he wrote separately about a group of teens who were accused of killing a 6-year-old. (One defendant pleaded guilty to aiding in the kidnapping. The alleged shooter and another defendant’s trials are scheduled for later this year.)

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 1 June 2019 20:49 (two months ago) link

Once the shortcut is installed and configured, you just have to say, for example, "Hey Siri, I'm getting pulled over." Then the program pauses music you may be playing, turns down the brightness on the iPhone, and turns on "do not disturb" mode.

It also sends a quick text to a predetermined contact to tell them you've been pulled over, and it starts recording using the iPhone's front-facing camera. Once you've stopped recording, it can text or email the video to a different predetermined contact and save it to Dropbox.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 8 June 2019 19:49 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

in stebbins, alaska, all seven police officers have domestic violence convictions

mookieproof, Friday, 19 July 2019 19:21 (one month ago) link

come to beautiful stebbins, alaska, where all our cops are bastards

The only surprising thing about a police force comprised entirely of criminals is that these cops were all actually convicted.

I guess having a rap sheet to consult is in some ways preferable to being approached by an officer whose felonious proclivities are a total mystery.

Questions you’d never thought of asking until the NYT did for you. Buncha pussycats, the NYPD.

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 25, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 July 2019 20:01 (four weeks ago) link

many a good man has fallen from dousing

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 25 July 2019 23:57 (four weeks ago) link

After 20 years of police scholarship, I'm so pessimistic about the possibility of police reform. The abuse and corruption are built into the mission. Instead, we need to reduce their scope and power as much as possible. #TheEndofPolicing

— Alex S. Vitale (@avitale) July 25, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2019 16:50 (three weeks ago) link

darn bullets

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 August 2019 17:11 (three weeks ago) link

Just all by itself.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 1 August 2019 17:12 (three weeks ago) link

deputy executes man cheka style

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 1 August 2019 17:13 (three weeks ago) link

"Guns don't kill people . . ."

nickn, Thursday, 1 August 2019 17:46 (three weeks ago) link

Thugs with badges... 🖕🏾🐷

— D-E-ToDa6thLetter (@5StarDieHard) July 9, 2019

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 1 August 2019 21:21 (three weeks ago) link

I can't find it right but somebody @'ed WBRZ on Twitter about that ridiculous headline, and the writer responded back saying, "There are lot of complicated journalistic reasons to write it that way, more than we can get to the bottom of with a 280-character limit."

The respondent tweeted back asking, Do you, by any chance, have cops in your immediate family and friends? and the journalist was like, yeah, Two of my brothers and etc etc .

Response: "Oh I guess we did get to the bottom of it within the character limit then."

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:09 (two weeks ago) link

grim lol

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:18 (two weeks ago) link


Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 15:28 (two weeks ago) link

what wbrz headline?

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:04 (two weeks ago) link

Posted by mooks ^^^

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

Imagine writing that fucking headline and your name is TREY SCHMALTZ.

That's Officer Schmaltz to you, show some respect for the badge

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:19 (two weeks ago) link

thanks, io

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:37 (two weeks ago) link

The message that Attorney General Barr delivered to the Fraternal Order of Police in his speech this morning is basically: We are at war, and you must destroy the village in order to save it.

— Carl Takei (@carltakei) August 12, 2019

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:01 (one week ago) link

Local news reporting that eight NYC cops have committed suicide this year.

What's that joke about a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 20:05 (one week ago) link

NYPD questioned a boy, offering him a McDonald’s soda. When he left, they took the straw and tested it for his DNA.

It didn't match crime scene evidence, but his DNA was entered into the city’s genetic database. To have it removed, the family had to go to court. The boy was 12.

— ✨ d o d a i ✨ (@dodaistewart) August 15, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 August 2019 17:56 (six days ago) link

Houston Police were called in to intervene in a man's attempt at suicide by firearm last night. Man pulls trigger on self right when cop pulls trigger on him.

Investigation Pending.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 August 2019 18:02 (six days ago) link

this seems a bit unnecessary

Person in dress crossing street who spat in the general direction of a cop van, then was singled out by one of the riot cops, only to be tackled to the ground moments later by 5 officers. #ThisIsAmerica #PortlandProtest #PortlandProtests #PoliceBrutality #PortlandPolice #PPB

— queerflatsoda (@feefifofummmm) August 18, 2019

frogbs, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:50 (three days ago) link

booked for re-spritzing arrest

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:05 (three days ago) link

Cops' first priority is always to enforce respect for their authority

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 August 2019 16:11 (three days ago) link

They'll always mistake compliance out of fear for compliance out of respect.

The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:19 (three days ago) link

Wow, the NYPD actually fired the cop who killed Eric Garner.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:45 (three days ago) link

looking forward to the apeshit reaction from pat lynch

mookieproof, Monday, 19 August 2019 16:57 (three days ago) link

mookieproof, Monday, 19 August 2019 17:31 (three days ago) link

murdering unarmed black people is your job you say

frogbs, Monday, 19 August 2019 17:37 (three days ago) link

Lynch always reminds me of a line from Raymond Chandler's The Long Goodbye: "There are places where cops are not hated, Captain. But in those places you wouldn't be a cop."

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 19 August 2019 17:49 (three days ago) link

Cops proceeding “with the utmost caution” is probably a good idea. Will probably save lives.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 19 August 2019 18:53 (three days ago) link

Good news, after 3 months they found the gun that a young black man supposedly had when a white cop killed him, a few years after the same cop killed another young black man who was holding a shiny watch.

JoeStork, Monday, 19 August 2019 19:13 (three days ago) link

T Donegan needs to be harassed off of the internet forever.

Reported the campaign but it isn't breaking rules so...a futile gesture.

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 21:34 (yesterday) link

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