ILM's Top 77 ALBUMS of 2011

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spoiler alert: azealia banks did not win this poll

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:02 (eight years ago) link

fix

pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:03 (eight years ago) link

we all know who's going to win this, but pumped anyway!

prolego, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:04 (eight years ago) link

#1 is probably bon iver lets just get it out of the way now

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:04 (eight years ago) link

:(

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:05 (eight years ago) link

Can we not have Bon Iver in this?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:05 (eight years ago) link

idk what's going to win! is it lulu

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:06 (eight years ago) link

DO we know who's going to win this? Because I have no idea.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:07 (eight years ago) link

i'm just mentally preparing myself for destroyer :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:08 (eight years ago) link

Let's leave speculation aside for now. I'm more interested in the countdown. Although I have a sneaking suspicion I know who les winner could be.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:08 (eight years ago) link

pj harvey anyone?

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:09 (eight years ago) link

who?

prolego, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:09 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/6ud1O.jpg

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie (258 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 418

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:11 (eight years ago) link

Hooray, just got here in time! One idea I had: the tracks poll is always fun because people can listen along in real time but obviously if you haven't heard an album before it's not as easy to check it out in the space of 10 minutes. So maybe for each album that charts, someone who voted for or otherwise digs the album could link to (not embed) a representative track on Youtube or Soundcloud?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:11 (eight years ago) link

Glad this made it! Surprised as the low placing though :(

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:11 (eight years ago) link

what is this

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:12 (eight years ago) link

i gave this one a listen at ned's behest last year. it was okay as i remember, but i never went back to it.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:12 (eight years ago) link

Here's the track "Chestnut" from the album (my favorite one): http://soundcloud.com/when-saints-go-machine/chestnut

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:13 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, what is this? I saw the name mentioned in the singles poll. Somehow I'm reluctant to check it out...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if anything I voted for will place?
Also seandalai that is a good idea.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

i really liked this at first but then it was kind of diminishing returns. this might still have been near the bottom of my ballot tho, can't remember

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

Haha, my number 1. Would have been so sad if it hadn't placed, although I'm kind of disappointed it didn't place any higher than this. It's a beautiful, perfect record for me. I remember coming home after little sleep, hungover about 11am and putting it on and just listening to it in the dark from beginning to end. I maintain that's the optimal situation to hear it in. A few more thoughts about this written for the Quietus

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

well at least we get to discuss 76 nice records before the gushing over an album of faux-emotional warbling and caterwauling.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:15 (eight years ago) link

This is an excellent start - I missed it last year but have been playing it over the last week and it's fantastic.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:15 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvnsKdP2m0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfefYDZvDKk

The whole thing's great, and it's best heard as a piece, but here are two highlights

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:16 (eight years ago) link

I liked Konkylie a lot! Didn't go back to it as much as I thought I would at first, but it's a lovely and interesting record.

The kind of thing I'm glad to see sneak in at 77 even if it isn't Top 25 of the year for me or anything.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:16 (eight years ago) link

NO EMBEDDING! xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:16 (eight years ago) link

a couple solid tracks on this one. I like the industrial+balearic/chillwave elements even if it doesn't hold up for me over the whole album.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (eight years ago) link

can we not throw a million youtubes in here or make sure that they're links not embeds? thx.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (eight years ago) link

agh can we just post links to youtubes not embeds please? i fear for my browser otherwise

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (eight years ago) link

oh sorry JF - don't know how to unimbed

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (eight years ago) link

aw dang it's the actual album covers not ms paint versions :(

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (eight years ago) link

unembbed?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (eight years ago) link

prediction katy b and pj harvey are the top 2

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (eight years ago) link

This sort of sounds to me like a more sincere version of Autre Ne Veut crossed with Anthony.

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (eight years ago) link

Although, lol I forgot about the lyrical namechecking of Linden trees.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (eight years ago) link

oh sorry JF - don't know how to unimbed

either the short version of the youtube link or use the bbcode

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (eight years ago) link

To NOT embed youtube links, click on the "Share" button below the video and copy the short url it provides. Short urls do not auto-embed on ILX.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (eight years ago) link

k, got it - no more vids.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:19 (eight years ago) link

The "Kelly" video above may be the best of the year, despite all the skin crawling creepiness.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:19 (eight years ago) link

oh beyonce will be top 3. maybe even the winner

Beyonce
Katy B
PJ Harvey

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:19 (eight years ago) link

The Kelly video is basically Black Swan with all the fat trimmed off, right?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Let's refrain from talking about the top 3 this early, shall we?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Serious Arthur Russell vibes too...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

xpost ^^ this

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

i was just trying reassure lex that Destroyer has no chance of winning

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Save us Johnny Fever!

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

no mention of derulo yet. probably because of cross voting between spelling his name with and without an umlaut.

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:22 (eight years ago) link

considering it got 10 votes and a first placer, WSGM is pretty low. the following 76 had better blow my MIND!

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:22 (eight years ago) link

First impression: I like a lot of the ingredients, and it's obvious why ILM would go for it, but I'm not really taken with any of the songs I've heard so far.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:22 (eight years ago) link

i fully expect braids to finish #52 to #50.

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:23 (eight years ago) link

silence as netizens try to think of their #52 to #50 predictions

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:26 (eight years ago) link

whenever someone mentions that band i have to retrain myself that they're not talking about the emo band from the 90s.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:26 (eight years ago) link

I can't even remember what I voted for. I don't think I really got into many albums last year.

That said, it would be nice for some artists that were absent from the singles vote: Gucci Mane, Peaking Lights, Tim Hecker, Laurel Halo, Metronomy, Braids, Oneohtrix Point Never, Maria Minerva, maybe Art Department...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:28 (eight years ago) link

or the r&b duo who did the 'bohemian rhapsody' cover in the '90s xp

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:28 (eight years ago) link

...and LMFAO of course! ;)

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:30 (eight years ago) link

j0rdan is the rollout finishing thursday like the tracks poll or friday?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:32 (eight years ago) link

i'm cool with whatever

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:33 (eight years ago) link

thu worked well i think - as someone said on the trax thread, by the time you get to the top 10 there likely won't be any surprises by the order left, so no point holding it back

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:34 (eight years ago) link

i think its more to do with those leaving work on a friday not seeing results til monday

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:35 (eight years ago) link

i gave this one a listen at ned's behest last year. it was okay as i remember, but i never went back to it.

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend)

yeah this^. checked out the thread on this band after someone mentioned them somewhere recently and was surprised to see i had posted positively in it but had completely forgotten them in the intervening months

rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:36 (eight years ago) link

but im happy going with whatevers best for j0rdan

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:36 (eight years ago) link

I would have voted Konkylie higher were I to redo my ballot. It's really a fantastic album, full of a little bit of everything for everyone (conventional synth pop numbers like "Kelly", slightly skewed synth pop numbers like "Church and Law", wobbly mood pieces like "The Same Scissors", compositional music nerd freakouts like "Konkylie" and "Add Ends").

Weirdly, the singer sounds just like Antony but for whatever reason I do not want to pull out his esophagus and strangle him with it. I suspect it's because he's getting better support from his backing music.

Haven't seen the video for "Kelly" but "Add Ends" is great:

http://youtu.be/eQby5ZsopR8

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:36 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/OhVu2.jpg

76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 392

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:38 (eight years ago) link

I have no idea what this is

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:38 (eight years ago) link

me neither...

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:39 (eight years ago) link

nor me

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:39 (eight years ago) link

to me konkylie's one of these records with so many little musical "bits" that only reveal themselves after a few listens - the only thing I can compare it to is Boards Of Canada's Geogaddi in that respect.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:39 (eight years ago) link

I had come up w/ a list of possible #1 placers:

PJ Harvey
Beyonce
Katy B
Destroyer
Tim Hecker

(I've changed my mind about TH, and now will be v impressed if he makes top 10...)

Xp ha! Never heard of #76: is this poll going to be awesome?

non, je ned raggette rien (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:40 (eight years ago) link

ah that robag wruhme record was lovely! not on my ballot but happy to see it place. useful when hungover

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:40 (eight years ago) link

Weirdly, the singer sounds just like Antony but for whatever reason I do not want to pull out his esophagus and strangle him with it.

This. I've never enjoyed Anthony's singing, but I'm actually drawn to this.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:40 (eight years ago) link

ok this is...kind of folktronica?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:41 (eight years ago) link

I have some Robag Wrhume from about 2004/5 and it was really good - sort of IDM house. What's his latest stuff like?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:41 (eight years ago) link

you just put me off checking it out seandalai

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:42 (eight years ago) link

i listened to this once and have no memory of it other than that it was nice. he had a good mix out this year too

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:42 (eight years ago) link

What the vukk?

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:42 (eight years ago) link

it's kind of pastoral techno, very immersive, kind of border communityesque

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:43 (eight years ago) link

Yessssss, was hoping that would place. Really beautiful example of what we used to call microhouse back in the day - lush strings, disembodied child voices, I've played it all year without getting tired of it.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:43 (eight years ago) link

I tried hard to get into Konkylie, but I always got bored after the first two tracks (which I love!). also, closer was nice, as far as I remember.

V79, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:43 (eight years ago) link

was going to post that I just listened to the first half of Konkylie on Spotify, and the first two tracks do seem to stand above the rest

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:44 (eight years ago) link

This sounds like something I would love were I listening to it outside of the context of a countdown of the 77 best albums of the year; as it stands, it's just sort of pleasant? It seems to be put together well and has a good sense of build and release, but the restraint is not what I want to listen to right now (nb this is all based on the first track, the whole album might erupt into a techstep facemelter later on for all I know)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:45 (eight years ago) link

it's kind of pastoral techno, very immersive, kind of border communityesque

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:43 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sold

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:46 (eight years ago) link

There's a lot going on it it, but it's not really a dancefloor album, I've mostly listened to it as a late night thing while reading, in the way I would with Pantha Du Prince or someone.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:46 (eight years ago) link

There are some lovely, very crystalline sounding tracks on that album, maybe along the same lines as Pantha Du Prince? Didn't vote for it in the end though cos those bridging pieces in between the main tracks were a bit of a drag.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:47 (eight years ago) link

good comparison with pantha du prince, even more atmospheric. I'm sure he could gussy it up for the dance floor though.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Oh he's one half of Wighnomy Brothers who are masters of gussying it up for the dance floor.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:48 (eight years ago) link

Ha, I think on the sandbox when talking about big hip-hop tracks this year, I made a comment about 2011 being the year that music stopped being real and started being polite; these first two albums seem to hold up that thesis pretty well.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:49 (eight years ago) link

76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)

really enjoying this

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:50 (eight years ago) link

xpost don't know if 2011 is the year that happened man.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:50 (eight years ago) link

it's the year that everyone spent in their bedrooms on the internet

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:50 (eight years ago) link

I'm going to have to check this out now, also because of the comparison with Pantha du Prince!

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (eight years ago) link

xp I've been doing that for years, glad the world caught up...

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (eight years ago) link

Depends on whether you're listening to polite music or not. I don't think I really like this stuff that much. PDP is ok, but kinda shiny and dull at the same time imo.

Hoping for something loud at this end of the countdown.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (eight years ago) link

xposts like every year since 1999

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (eight years ago) link

I meant to listen to this, am a fan of his other work and even checked out Wuppdeckmischmampflow, but seem to have less and less enthusiasm for 'what we used to call microhouse back in the day'...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (eight years ago) link

I made a comment about 2011 being the year that music stopped being real and started being polite; these first two albums seem to hold up that thesis pretty well.

everyone be getting OLD

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:52 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/AoUNt.jpg

75. Liturgy — Aesthethica (264 points, nine votes)

P4K: 41
P&J: 88

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:53 (eight years ago) link

hahaha

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:53 (eight years ago) link

politeness just got the shit kicked out of it!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:53 (eight years ago) link

Guessing this counts as "something loud".

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

Speaking of nice and loud. Hey, I still haven't listened to Liturgy.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

lol I fucked up that quote, it's GETTING real isn't it

Real World fanboy badge revoked

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

hey! there we go!
i didn't vote for it, but it's loud and fairly impolite.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

Metal, I'm assuming?

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

the cover could be a witch house album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:55 (eight years ago) link

I like that cover design a lot.

tumblring dice (crüt), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:56 (eight years ago) link

crossover/hipster black metal is better than none at all

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:56 (eight years ago) link

I am cracking up though that the first minute of this loud, impolite album is a soft note played over and over though

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:56 (eight years ago) link

needs more triangles in the artist name

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:56 (eight years ago) link

Matt DC - Liturgy are a black metal band who've caused controversy because they dress like hipsters and try to unravel the usual black metal tropes of being Norwegian and dressing like a Vril-Ya. I still haven't heard it, but it's supposed to be good.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:57 (eight years ago) link

Metal, I'm assuming?

― Matt DC,

transcendental black metal

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:57 (eight years ago) link

wiki

Liturgy are a self-described "transcedent black metal" band from Brooklyn, New York. Originally the solo project of Hunter Hunt-Hendrix, the band expanded to a four piece in 2008, after the release of the 12" Immortal Life, which was followed in 2009 with their debut album Renihilation. The group call their style "transcendental black metal",[1][2] which is described in a declaration written by Hunt-Hendrix.[3] Hunter cites Swans, Glenn Branca, Alexander Scriabin, Iannis Xenakis and Lightning Bolt as influences.[4]

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:57 (eight years ago) link

the cover could be a witch house album

haha witch house was the first thing i thought of

happy 4 the metal crü

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Save us J0rdan Fever!

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:58 (eight years ago) link

"Hunter Hunt Hendrix" sounds like a Gossip Girl character/actor but his name isn't his fault.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:59 (eight years ago) link

http://youtu.be/qciRxrlTFGc

^ Liturgy - Generation

(I didn't vote for this btw, but that was the best track imo)

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:59 (eight years ago) link

here is a jaunty excerpt of Hunter Hunt-Hendrix's Trancendental Black Metal theory

PROLEGOMENON

One could propose a new meaning for black metal along with a new array of techniques to activate that meaning. The meaning of Transcendental Black Metal is Affirmation, and its new technique is the Burst Beat.
The will to power has two stages. The first may be called Fortification; the establishment of a paradigm or set of rules and the ensuing exploration of potential that lies within those constraints. The second stage may be termed Sacrifice; an auto-destruction, a self-overcoming whereby the initial rules, having been fully digested and satisfied, are thereby mutilated. They are transformed into the basis for something new and unprecedented.
Transcendental Black Metal is black metal in the mode of Sacrifice. It is a clearing aside of contingent features and a fresh exploration of the essence of black metal. As such it is solar, hypertrophic, courageous, finite and penultimate. Its tone is Affirmation and its key technique is the Burst Beat.
The black metal that was born in Scandinavia in the mode of Fortification can be termed Hyperborean Black Metal. Hyperborean Black Metal is lunar, atrophic, depraved, infinite and pure. The symbol of its birth is the Death of Dead. Its tone is Nihilism and its key technique is the Blast Beat.
Today USBM stands in the shadow of Hyperborean Black Metal. The time has come for a decisive break with the European tradition and the establishment of a truly American black metal. And we should say “American” rather than “US”: the US is a declining empire; America is an eternal ideal representing human dignity, hybridization and creative evolution.
The act of renihilation is the betrayal of Hyperborean Black Metal and an affirmation of Transcendental Black Metal. And it is at the same time the constitution of an apocalyptic humanism to be termed Aesthetics. As such, the question of Transcendental Black Metal is only the tip of an iceberg at the base of which is hidden a new relationship between art, politics, ethics and religion.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (eight years ago) link

Played Konkylie a couple of times after a friend raved about it, liked it quite a lot.

Voted for Thora Vukk. Heavily played throughout the year, never tired of it, good holiday memories attached.

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (eight years ago) link

the only 'metal' album i heard last year prior to the ILM Metal Poll. It's p good.

pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (eight years ago) link

xxxp:
It comes with a manifesto on Transcendental Black Metal.

Transcendental Black Metal is a Renihilation, a “No” to the entire array of Negations, which turns to an affirmation of the continuity of all things

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (eight years ago) link

prolego-memnon?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (eight years ago) link

I have like zero interest in black metal, apparently. I don't even dislike this, it just is making zero impression on me.

Like, there is no way this album should aurally scan as "beige, forgettable" to me but there you go.

I think the issue I have with a lot of how black metal is constructed/presented is that it's a LOT of effort put into playing what is ultimately a relatively simple song/melody; like on this first track, everything is played on like 32nd notes but it's all subdivision of a really really really simple tune that's not particularly interesting or impressive, so my end reaction is "eh, why bother with all that?"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:01 (eight years ago) link

It's like Dr Bronner meets the Maharishi School of Management.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:01 (eight years ago) link

"eh, why bother with all that?"
mood music? i dunno, why bother with anything?

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:02 (eight years ago) link

lol and then they follow up with a big chanty thing, which erupts into another simple tune chopped up into 32nd notes. It's like the musical equivalent of the moment when Scooby-Doo is running in place away from a monster, legs all awhirl and dust and smoke getting kicked up but he's not going anywhere, stretched out over a five minute period.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:03 (eight years ago) link

(structurally this is reminding me of some of the Baltic pieces we did in our last choral concert, only more static)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:04 (eight years ago) link

Decent black metal can be pretty complex, musically speaking - lots of time signature changes etc...

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:04 (eight years ago) link

that literal scooby-doo sound effect looped over five minutes would be more "up my alley" than this Liturgy album, but I like this okay too.

tumblring dice (crüt), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:04 (eight years ago) link

why bother with anything?

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

depressed now

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

can someone point me in the direction of some Morton Feldmanesque black metal?

tumblring dice (crüt), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

I like the intro of Tragic Laurel, it sounds like Philip Glass

tumblring dice (crüt), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:06 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/sa2WL.jpg

74. The Joy Formidable — The Big Roar (266 points, seven votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 58

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:07 (eight years ago) link

the song that placed in tracks was way too landfillesque for me - any chance I'll like the album?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:08 (eight years ago) link

This Robag Wruhme album is really nice. Is the name an anagram for something or just German?

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:08 (eight years ago) link

lol so to completely contradict what I just said re: Liturgy, the thing I dug the most about the song that placed on the track countdown was the shoegazy outro; interested to hear if that sensibility runs through other songs on the album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:08 (eight years ago) link

seandalai: I've only heard the Joy Formidable album once, but my guess is that if you didn't like "Whirring," you won't like the album.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:09 (eight years ago) link

My biggest problem with that Liturgy (and most black metal) is the quality of sound. If I'm in a metal mood then I want to listen to it LOUD, but this stuff is best set at like 2 on the volume knob, otherwise its completely blown out.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (eight years ago) link

I didn't vote for Joy Formidable, but it has its moments. It's a crying shame that only Yuck and JF contend in the British hard-rock (non-punk/metal) stakes these days. But where Yuck are hazy and nostalgic, I hear JF as being big and powerful (love that guitar sound). I don't know which nineties rock band I'd be tempted to compare them with - part of me wants to say early Manics without the lyrics. Anyway, the album's got maybe 4 good songs, the rest is a bit forgettable. I still love A Heavy Abacus, particularly that Glastonbury performance.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (eight years ago) link

I should give The Joy Formidable another chance. Didn't love the track we covered at Jukebox but it seems to be one of the consensus picks of indie rock this year.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (eight years ago) link

I haven't heard any of these... The Joy Formidable tracks on the poll were alright I suppose. I also remembered that they were on Conan one night last year.

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (eight years ago) link

I really like the Joy Formidable's huge walls of screeching guitars but the songs themselves I can take or leave. Surprised that album wasn't higher, I thought they had a committed following on here.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (eight years ago) link

Is it weird that the first song at least is coming across to me like a harder-edge School of Seven Bells?

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (eight years ago) link

love the last track on the joy formidable album a lot

http://youtu.be/84yRe--OJ00

pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:12 (eight years ago) link

Joy Formidable remind me of that era between Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie when the Pumpkins were still figuring out just how big of an arena band they wanted to become.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:12 (eight years ago) link

JF and liturgy both on my ballot :D

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:13 (eight years ago) link

love that liturgy album.

I think the issue I have with a lot of how black metal is constructed/presented is that it's a LOT of effort put into playing what is ultimately a relatively simple song/melody; like on this first track, everything is played on like 32nd notes but it's all subdivision of a really really really simple tune that's not particularly interesting or impressive, so my end reaction is "eh, why bother with all that?"

what's wrong with a simple melody/progression? it's all about execution, and the major chords + huge wash of sound guitars + the rubato-but-still-in-tempo drumming approach really works for me.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:14 (eight years ago) link

another album that's good in small doses.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:14 (eight years ago) link

is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one. love this album.
xpost about liturgy but i love the joy formidable album too. really good guitars.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:15 (eight years ago) link

I have a feeling JF will go supernova on their next album - what's to stop them?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:15 (eight years ago) link

though i wish the joy formidable album didn't have the one song where the dude sings. it's really boring and i don't know why they bothered.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

Re: The Joy Formidable
The four songs reprised from the 2009's A Balloon Called Moaning EP were sharper in their "original" version. The album production veers too far into stadium-rock for its own good.

Still TJF captures an early 90's sound like few bands since. Think Tanya Donelly of Belly fronting gazy lads like Swervedriver. Pure nostalgia treat for me.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

I saw Joy Formidable live in 2010. They weren't for me, and what I've heard by them since has confirmed this several times over.

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

they need to replace all that guitar work with keane style pianos

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

The four songs reprised from the 2009's A Balloon Called Moaning EP were sharper in their "original" version.

maybe it's because i heard the album before the ep but i don't agree with this at all, would much rather hear the album versions which are humongous. "whirring" esp. on the ep just seems like a rough draft to me.

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:17 (eight years ago) link

Joy Formidable still suffers from a bit of a marketing problem, I think -- terrible band name, overzealous inane tweeting (imo), not mysterious enough --> can add up to "blah" for some people. Still, I like their sound and I think Ritzy has a lovely voice well suited for this type of music.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (eight years ago) link

is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one. love this album.
xpost about liturgy but i love the joy formidable album too. really good guitars.

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, January 30, 2012 12:15 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm even the non-metal ppl should listen to "generation" because you'll either love it or be driven insane by it.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (eight years ago) link

is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one

yeah it's definitely the high point, even though it's a one-off and not really "what they do". so good.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (eight years ago) link

btw i know i can't complain since i ignored all the nominations stuff, but i'm pretty sure none of my favorite albums from this year were even nominated (except for liturgy).

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:19 (eight years ago) link

imo the drummer is the star on that Liturgy record

☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (eight years ago) link

is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one. love this album.
xpost about liturgy but i love the joy formidable album too. really good guitars.

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, January 30, 2012 12:15 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm even the non-metal ppl should listen to "generation" because you'll either love it or be driven insane by it.

― call all destroyer, Monday, January 30, 2012 5:18 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Happen to be listening to this now and it's not bad at all...the rest of the album (so far) is interesting enough but exhausting for my ears.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (eight years ago) link

Is the name an anagram for something or just German?

― jaymc, Monday, January 30, 2012

Robag's real name is Gabor

Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (eight years ago) link

what's wrong with a simple melody/progression? it's all about execution, and the major chords + huge wash of sound guitars + the rubato-but-still-in-tempo drumming approach really works for me.

That's great! The thing is, you glossed over the more important "not particularly interesting or impressive" qualifier to focus somewhat unfairly on the "really simple tune" part. I'm not convinced by the presentation more than anything else.

btw listening to "Generation" right now and already from the get-go this is way more my type of thing

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (eight years ago) link

Not really that taken with robag as a producer, though he can be a great DJ. LP passed me by

Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (eight years ago) link

granted i dont listen to a lot of metal, but the speed at which he hits the snare drum in that first song just blows my mind

☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (eight years ago) link

also: Ritzy = Oh so cuet.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:23 (eight years ago) link

Sorry, Liturgy is reminding me of Monty Python's "Death of Mary Queen of Scots" sketch.

BANG WALLOP RATTLE SCREECH
"ah think she's deid"
"no i'm not"
BANG WALLOP RATTLE SCREECH

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:23 (eight years ago) link

...but, um, not without merit...

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:23 (eight years ago) link

Listened to about 75% of the tracks poll, not going to do that with LPs will just comment on anything I've actually heard

Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:24 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/dRes5.jpg

73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne (266 points, 10 votes)

P4K: 21
P&J: 3

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:25 (eight years ago) link

IT'S PROVOCATIVE!

pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (eight years ago) link

:D

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Lololololol

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Surprised that didn't place higher.

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link

I still haven't heard WTT. I didn't like the Diddy record or MBDTF very much, so I'm kind of sceptical about this one... Do you guyses reckon I should give it a go?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link

yes

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link

also still haven't heard this

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link

Listening to the Liturgy album again and enjoying it a lot more this time round. Aside from the more experimental sounding tracks (which are great!), one good thing about it is the (relatively) short song length instead of all that epic-build fannydangle that dogs a lot of black metal.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link

When I finally got around to hearing WTT, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. Really wasn't expecting much from it.

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

xxpost okay - think i have it knocking around so I'll try it.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

what a terrible album cover!

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

wow, really surprised WTT isn't higher. Thought it'd be like top 20

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

I still haven't heard WTT. I didn't like the Diddy record or MBDTF very much, so I'm kind of sceptical about this one... Do you guyses reckon I should give it a go?

At least listen to "No Church In The Wild", "Ni**as In Paris" and "New Day".

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

there's some pretty good stuff on 'watch the throne' and it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff, but a lot of the time the rapping just isn't all that great

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:29 (eight years ago) link

never change ilm

prolego, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:29 (eight years ago) link

"gotta have it" and the singles are classics, and yeah "new day" & "no church in the wild" are dope

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:29 (eight years ago) link

there's some pretty good stuff on 'watch the throne' and it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff, but a lot of the time the rapping just isn't all that great

in fairness, this is almost always because of Kanye

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:30 (eight years ago) link

yes, that is true

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:31 (eight years ago) link

wow, way lower I would ever expect it to place

V79, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:31 (eight years ago) link

lulz #73

i do love "niggas in paris" (erm minus kanye) but i didn't think it was a remarkable album otherwise - occasionally good beats, bit of a slog overall, kanye is mostly supremely annoying

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:32 (eight years ago) link

basically I feel like ppl punished this album because My Beautiful Dark Twisted Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Fantasy was overpraised

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:33 (eight years ago) link

there's some pretty good stuff on 'watch the throne' and it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff, but a lot of the time the rapping just isn't all that great

― J0rdan S., Monday, January 30, 2012 11:29 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pretty much agree with this although i often enjoy kanye's terrible raps just because o_O/hilarity

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:33 (eight years ago) link

well at least we get to discuss 76 nice records before the gushing over an album of faux-emotional warbling and caterwauling.

― skip, Monday, January 30, 2012 4:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Depending on your taste this could apply to every potential winner except Katy B.

Meme Rogers (DL), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:34 (eight years ago) link

I still haven't heard WTT. I didn't like the Diddy record or MBDTF very much, so I'm kind of sceptical about this one... Do you guyses reckon I should give it a go?

― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, January 30, 2012 12:27 PM (19 seconds ago)

well they're all hip-hop, if you didn't like one, you surely won't like the others

re: WTT, appropriate placing for that very mediocre album

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:34 (eight years ago) link

it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff

idk it sounds expensive as in it sounds like it cost a lot of money - it doesn't sound expensive in the GREAT way, ie opulent and fabulous - cf this, which is the most opulent hip-hop beat i've heard in some time

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:34 (eight years ago) link

there are also points where Kanye does go all the way through o_O and back into "okay I can fuck with that" territory but I'll be fucked if I can name any of them off the top of my head

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:35 (eight years ago) link

idk there's def some beats on WTT that sound expensive AND great

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:36 (eight years ago) link

Liturgy was #17 in metal poll.
I don't know if there's any more 'metal' to come but if you want to check where it placed in the metal poll click here on the poll results/stats on needle Which Glenn does and is awesome.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:36 (eight years ago) link

i unabashedly love kanye just as a personality/celebrity/entity

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:36 (eight years ago) link

as an addition to P&J/P4k placings.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:37 (eight years ago) link

jesus i really like the first song on this joy formidable album, guitars are just huge

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:38 (eight years ago) link

i was listening to the college dropout earlier today and just thinking, goddamn how can anyone give a shit about my beautiful dark stupid fantasy

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:39 (eight years ago) link

yeah it's weird how people can like two things that are different

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:40 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/jHDCT.jpg

72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther (270 points, seven votes, two first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: DNP

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Barbara Panther

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:41 (eight years ago) link

YAY my #2

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:41 (eight years ago) link

hooray, my first place vote!! <3 tho tbh, since submitting my ballot i think i've fallen for tune-yards more, but really happy to see this make the top 77.

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:42 (eight years ago) link

I've only listened to the one song from the tracks poll, but I love this kind of thing. Much more realistic interpretation of the New York early-80s L.E.S. scene than things like the Rapture or LCD Soundsystem. Been wanting to hear something that melts up that no-wave/hiphop/disco crossover for a while now.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:43 (eight years ago) link

love the opening lines of "voodoo" so much, particularly her intonation of "wa wa wa wa WITCH!"

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:44 (eight years ago) link

This is such a great album. Only heard it in December and ended up putting it in my top 10.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:45 (eight years ago) link

Likewise. Wish I'd spent more of the year with it.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:45 (eight years ago) link

i mentioned it in the tracks thread, but i really dig the sonic contradictions within "dizzy," A LOT

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:46 (eight years ago) link

WTT is way better than MBDLMFAOF and it still didn't earn my vote. I am fine with this placement.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:46 (eight years ago) link

Great cover on the B. Panther.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:47 (eight years ago) link

it is kinda weird that even despite a lot of ILX not feeling MBDTF it still placed at #7 last year (and even that was amusingly low), wheres WTT...#73 is nowhere for an album/artists of that profile

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:48 (eight years ago) link

I can dig Barbara Panther

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:48 (eight years ago) link

Looks like that horrible Yeasayer cover xxp

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:49 (eight years ago) link

xxp: that is not weird at all, that is a fantastic example of "backlash" as I stated before

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:49 (eight years ago) link

LCD NewsomSystem

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:51 (eight years ago) link

enjoying this babs panther album

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:53 (eight years ago) link

yeah this is good

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:53 (eight years ago) link

She isn't nearly as raspy as Joanna Newsom.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:54 (eight years ago) link

Close enough to turn me off.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:55 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/tu9XH.jpg

71. Toro y Moi - Underneath the Pine (271 points, nine votes)

P4K: 48
P&J: 146

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:56 (eight years ago) link

that is the worst fucking album cover I have ever seen

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:58 (eight years ago) link

in one ear, out the other

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:58 (eight years ago) link

That is one horrible album cover. (xpost)

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:58 (eight years ago) link

i like Underneath the Pine but i don't really have anything to say about it. it just kind of exists

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:59 (eight years ago) link

(circumventing the moist-stache entirely)

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:59 (eight years ago) link

yeah, not sure if I even want to listen to that toro y moi album because the cover makes me want to barf

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:59 (eight years ago) link

This is one of the joys of listening to music in a digital age, guys. I love the Toro y Moi album (it was in my top 5) and didn't even remember that the cover looked like that.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:01 (eight years ago) link

i feel like toro y moi always place somewhere in the low end or middle of ilx polls and bore me in exactly the same way every time

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:01 (eight years ago) link

I love that cover! Another one I enjoyed but didn't vote for.

Toro Y Moi - Elise (live version)
http://youtu.be/n7rmUQk6SME

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:01 (eight years ago) link

Standout track on the Toro y Moi is "Still Sound":
http://youtu.be/0Gqh4e1S6j0

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:02 (eight years ago) link

i always feel like a freak when people go on about that cover being to gross/terrible because i actually find it kind of arresting.

ryan, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:02 (eight years ago) link

a cover only buffandmaxsmom could love

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:03 (eight years ago) link

lol

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:04 (eight years ago) link

it is terrible/gross but i assume that's the point.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:07 (eight years ago) link

alright this next one is gonna be the last one for like an hour or so while i get ready for work and head over, will pick up from there

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 18:07 (eight years ago) link

doesn't make it a bad cover imho. i hate looking at it - but that could also make it good?!
xpost

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:08 (eight years ago) link

yeah, I'm sure they meant the cover to be awful and foul, but that still doesn't mean I have to like it

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:09 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/r5VB1.jpg

(tie) 69. Wild Flag — Wild Flag (273 points, 10 votes)

P4K: 49
P&J: 4

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 18:10 (eight years ago) link

btw the wild flag cover is 1000x worse than the toro y moi one

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 18:10 (eight years ago) link

ha otm

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:11 (eight years ago) link

outstanding record, don't get the cover but i sort of like it for some reason.

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Wait, I thought we*weren't doing the MS Paint versions of the album covers?

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:12 (eight years ago) link

kind of feel like i don't love the wild flag album as much as i should but i should also spend more time with it, i think it's one of the albums i lost when my old hard drive crashed and i didn't redownload it

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:12 (eight years ago) link

it's like a bloodstain making out with snuffaluffagus

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:13 (eight years ago) link

I voted for the Wild Flag album -- it's not a masterpiece or anything, but it's really fun.

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:14 (eight years ago) link

^^cosign

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:20 (eight years ago) link

Thought Toro Y Moi would be so much chillwave, but its actually excellent funky dreamy pop and totally doesn't deserve that tag. Elise is a grrrreat track.

I like that cover too.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:23 (eight years ago) link

haha i've literally just talking to my housemate (an illustrator) about how the art of the album cover has been lost

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:25 (eight years ago) link

Thought Toro Y Moi would be so much chillwave

That was his deal at the very beginning, but he dropped it rather quickly.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:28 (eight years ago) link

That Wild Flag album cover reminds me of Abacab by Genesis...

Glad to see Robag Wruhme place - one of the last things I checked out from the nominations list, absolutely loved it.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:30 (eight years ago) link

love the Toro Y Moi album ("How I Know" is a great song), also I love the cover - the most beautiful one I've seen all year and gonna stan for it 4eva.
hopefully Chaz finally will recover from the "chillwave" tag he's getting slapped upon, it's just unfair for him to be written off just like that by lazy journalism

V79, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Actually played the Toro Y Moi quite a bit when it came out but completely forgot about it come the end of the year. It's perfectly pleasant.

Number None, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Causers Of This was actually a better album IMO, I still regret I didn't give it #1 back in 2010 poll, as it would push it to the 77th place (afair)

V79, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:33 (eight years ago) link

Toro was low on my ballot. "Still Sound" and "New Beat" are total jams

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:41 (eight years ago) link

btw nothing has come up on this countdown which IMO is better than When Saints Go Machine

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:43 (eight years ago) link

(I probably ranked WTT higher on my ballot but, as I said, I would bump WTT up several spots were I to redo it)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:44 (eight years ago) link

(er WSGM I mean, acronyms are the devil)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Nothing I voted for has come up yet but I've particularly enjoyed first listens to the Barbara Panther and Robag Wruhme albums, both of which might have had a shot at slipping in at the bottom of my ballot if I'd heard them earlier.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:51 (eight years ago) link

Didn't vote for it but glad Toro y Moi made it

non, je ned raggette rien (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:00 (eight years ago) link

Loved the first Toro Y Moi album, I spent quite a bit of time with this one, but decided I'm not that into it in the end. 'How I Know' and 'New Beat' were cool tracks, but in general I thought the Freaking Out EP was better, kind of a return to form.

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:03 (eight years ago) link

yup i voted for the EP; like the LP but not really enough to put it on my ballot

johnny crunch, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:04 (eight years ago) link

alright y'all i'm back

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:15 (eight years ago) link

the next album was one of NPR's faves of the year

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:16 (eight years ago) link

oh wait nevermind that's the album after this one

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:18 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/bu7xL.jpg

(tie) 69. Low — C'Mon (273 points, 10 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 72

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:22 (eight years ago) link

They should put out a dance remix album and call it "C'mown!!!". I can think of at least one ILXor who'd buy that.

Anyway, I decided many years ago that I'm not really into Low, but I'll give this album a shot.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Starting to feel like there's a big difference in the music represented on this album poll...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:26 (eight years ago) link

Maybe I'm just growing out of my Low fandom after all thse years, but that album didn't do a whole lot for me.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:26 (eight years ago) link

kind of remember liking some dance remix of Low...spring heel jack maybe?

rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:27 (eight years ago) link

I didn't like it as much as Drums, but still some great tracks 'Try To Sleep' in particular.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:28 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah the Bombscare EP which is approx. 12 inches from my shoulder as I type

preferred the Retribution Gospel Choir album to this I think but Low still bring it live (or did last summer when I saw em)

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:29 (eight years ago) link

I actually have some free time this week plus I voted in the albums poll so yeah, stoked for the madness and suchlike

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:31 (eight years ago) link

glad Liturgy got some ILM shine, also Wild Flag but thought they'd be higher, maybe even top 30?

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:32 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah, "c'mon" is the other album i loved that was nominated. "nothing but heart" is the keeper for me.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:33 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/wokGw.jpg

68. ILX Presents Lulu (276 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: DNP

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:34 (eight years ago) link

lol

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:36 (eight years ago) link

woooo

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:36 (eight years ago) link

yaaaaay

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:38 (eight years ago) link

which person who appeared on the album gave it their #1?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:38 (eight years ago) link

lol J0rdan did you check the Low Spotify ling

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:40 (eight years ago) link

linK wtf at my typing today

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:40 (eight years ago) link

lol no, what did i do

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:40 (eight years ago) link

I think it was Emil.y's number one pick.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:41 (eight years ago) link

afaik every spotify link should be to a different kidz bop album, someone correct me if i'm wrong tho

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:41 (eight years ago) link

haha xxp

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:42 (eight years ago) link

spotify sent me to david bowie - low

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:42 (eight years ago) link

oh, ha

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:42 (eight years ago) link

i just assumed it was because I was outside usa and your link wasnt available here

but no
http://open.spotify.com/album/3cWU7pThOf8iew2epGbitE

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:43 (eight years ago) link

Oh dear, that Spotify link is my fault - so much for automatic Spotify search...

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:44 (eight years ago) link

The ilx album was my #13, I believe. Glad it placed in the poll, should have been higher. Some genius tracks on that album, well done guys.

Didn't really get around to listening to the Low album last year, what I heard sounded good but nowhere near their best stuff.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:44 (eight years ago) link

very little so far that i'm familiar with

kanye/jay-z: good, but not a favorite
barbara panther: GREAT - should have voted for it but didn't :(
wild flag: one of the worst, flattest and most disappointing albums i heard this year, don't get the appeal at all

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:47 (eight years ago) link

OK, here's a Collaborative Spotify playlist

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:47 (eight years ago) link

the lyrics on the new Low were pretty weak - too in-your-face and obvious. Occasionally it works ("esPESHally me") but more often it doesn't ("I'm nothing but heart" 40 times in a row). Some beautiful moments though, and one of my favorite live shows of the year.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:48 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/si8w5.jpg

67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls (282 points, 11 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 105

Spotfiy

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:49 (eight years ago) link

did johnny go to 61 on day 1?

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:49 (eight years ago) link

I like "Witches" from the Low album more than I've liked any Low song since the 90s.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:49 (eight years ago) link

xp yes

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:49 (eight years ago) link

i thin.k w.e wil.l se. a happ.y emil.y

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:50 (eight years ago) link

YAY! I was thinking that it wouldn't place as the lowest stuff got so many votes.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:51 (eight years ago) link

"Bad Feeling" is a jam

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:51 (eight years ago) link

this section of the countdown has been quite varied and great to see

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:51 (eight years ago) link

(What is all this stuff?)

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:52 (eight years ago) link

first day is always my favourite of the eoy polls

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:53 (eight years ago) link

veronica falls!! "misery" is my favorite, but really the whole thing is really solid. yaaay!

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:53 (eight years ago) link

I voted for this!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:55 (eight years ago) link

This and ILXulu are probably going to be my only choices to place. Of course, I don't actually remember what else I voted for, so…

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:55 (eight years ago) link

I'm happy to see Veronica Falls. Would never have heard of it or voted for it without emil.y and outloud, so thanks!

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:56 (eight years ago) link

xp
i am glad that the low album made it. i am not too familiar with them but of what i heard c'mon was the most accessible and most enchanting album. i have seen them live twice and i guess they are maybe my favourite live band for the time being. there is this certain spiritual, charming, warm atmosphere at a low concert which i have never really felt at other concerts (lambchop came close once when they toured nixon). the album seems very easy to get into and for that i thought it was somehow a little on the light side at the beginning. but in the end it was the album i listened most to in 2011 and i never got tired of their seemingly simple harmonies and tunes. there is something holy about it.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:56 (eight years ago) link

xp Yeah I was thinking this is kind of the first victory of the Outloud era

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:56 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, me too. I remember what I voted for though, and I can confirm that it will probably not make it if it hasn't yet. Still, Veronica Falls is extremely palatable and has that perfect balance of sweet and sour.

Totally an outloud victory!! And an Emil.y victory because I wouldn't have listened to this if not for her.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:57 (eight years ago) link

I'd credit outloud with "Nyan Cat Theme" as well. xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:57 (eight years ago) link

This probably isn't unique to Low, but did everyone who voted for "C'mon" see them live and get blown away?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:57 (eight years ago) link

Yeah Nyan counts too I guess.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:58 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/LiGx1.jpg

66. Big K.R.I.T. - Return of 4Eva (288 points, 10 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 67

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:58 (eight years ago) link

oh hey Veronica Falls is kind of awesome

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:59 (eight years ago) link

xp

my fave song from low's c'mon was nightingale:

http://youtu.be/7bj4bcRh53c

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:00 (eight years ago) link

surprised to see the Veronica Falls album make the list. I thought this fit really well with a lot of the 90's stuff I used to be obsessed with, but then I played some tracks in an indiepop room on Turntable or wherever and people were not happy with me. my guess was that those people didn't really like noisy guitars.

fffv, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:02 (eight years ago) link

then you need to come in outloud.fm

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:02 (eight years ago) link

Veronica Falls is pastichey, but it's such a pitch-perfect modern take on '60s death records, for me.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:03 (eight years ago) link

This Veronica Falls album is thoroughly enjoyable.

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:03 (eight years ago) link

yeah what were you doing on turntable

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

I posted a track from it in the Chicago thread once but no one ever responded ;_;

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

i think i really don't "get" ilx taste anymore

junior dada (thomp), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:05 (eight years ago) link

someone tell me where tim hecker is going to place so i can triangulate

junior dada (thomp), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:05 (eight years ago) link

Tim Hecker will be @ #17

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:06 (eight years ago) link

?

Nothing posted so far is really "out there" (except maybe Liturgy, but ILX has always had a metal underbelly). xps

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:06 (eight years ago) link

yeah what were you doing on turntable

as I remember it, Outloud required me to have access to the actual files, which meant I was rarely in a place where I could use it. if this is inaccurate, please feel free to correct me elsewhere.

fffv, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:07 (eight years ago) link

You can post tracks from Soundcloud now too.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:07 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ndvxN.jpg

65. The Psychic Paramount - II (290 points, 9 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 132

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:07 (eight years ago) link

yesssssssssssssssssssss

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:08 (eight years ago) link

one of my favorite albums of the year

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:08 (eight years ago) link

I guess I should've voted in this so that I could complain that the Big K.R.I.T. is TOO LOW

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:09 (eight years ago) link

oh cool

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:09 (eight years ago) link

quality cover!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:09 (eight years ago) link

Surprised KRIT was so low. I'd have thought that was one of the consensus raps albums of the year.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:09 (eight years ago) link

PP II is a great album, for which I voted

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

one of my favorite albums of the year

what's a good track to check out

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

Wow! surprised to see Psychic Paramount make it. Happy, but sincerely surprised.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

btw i somehow missed the voting for this so whenever i say i like an album just imagine that it's a couple of places higher on the list

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

Yay! to The Psychic Paramount.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

Have been meaning to check this out for ages, but it's not on Spotify...can anyone point to a track or two on Soundcloud/Youtube?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

i totally missed the voting too :(
will not allow that to curb my opinions here, however.

xpost

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

xp wasn't a great year for rap albums really

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Woohoo, another one I voted for! This album really respects the sound of the inside of my head.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

as I remember it, Outloud required me to have access to the actual files, which meant I was rarely in a place where I could use it. if this is inaccurate, please feel free to correct me elsewhere.

― fffv, Monday, January 30, 2012 8:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You can post tracks from Soundcloud now too.

― two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, January 30, 2012 8:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You can, or you can also hang out and talk nonsense while letting other people pick some fine tunes for you to listen to.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

ha i don't really remember which tracks are which because they have really indistinct titles ... try this: http://youtu.be/4s1ppHxvzIg

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

Probably should have voted for that, but found it really exhausting to listen to all that much.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

hopefully that didn't embed

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

I didn't listen to Psychic Paramount enough to vote for it. Will give it more of a go now, I think.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

as I remember it, Outloud required me to have access to the actual files, which meant I was rarely in a place where I could use it. if this is inaccurate, please feel free to correct me elsewhere.

― fffv, Monday, January 30, 2012 8:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You can post tracks from Soundcloud now too.

― two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, January 30, 2012 8:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You can, or you can also hang out and talk nonsense while letting other people pick some fine tunes for you to listen to.

― emil.y, Monday, January 30, 2012 8:12 PM (16 seconds ago)

or you can listen to the stuff jeff plays

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:13 (eight years ago) link

That Psychic Paramount record is fantastic!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:13 (eight years ago) link

gah i really need to listen to that record

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (eight years ago) link

i cut the psychic paramount from my ballot at the very end so glad it still placed

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (eight years ago) link

I posted a track from it in the Chicago thread once but no one ever responded ;_;

Sorry, don't remember it!

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (eight years ago) link

all this outloud talk and yet none of you folks are ever on there when i go on (except J3ff T who i suspect is on there 24/7)

when are the parties at??

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (eight years ago) link

So have all the PP II voters chimed in already?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (eight years ago) link

what's the name of the music style of the psychic paramount? post-rock-without-the-calm-part-before-the-crescendo?

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (eight years ago) link

noise?

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:15 (eight years ago) link

psychedelic noise?

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:15 (eight years ago) link

Usually a few (or more) people in there during evening hours my time (US Eastern).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:15 (eight years ago) link

midnight uk time -3am seems to be the busiest time in outloud. the house cru used to do before midnight but dunno where they all went the past few months.
bump the outloud thread and people will join though

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:15 (eight years ago) link

ok thanks i think i must be showing up too late at night

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:16 (eight years ago) link

Hey, I voted for this too. What the hell?

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:16 (eight years ago) link

they feel kinda math rock-y to me but with psychedelic overtones

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:17 (eight years ago) link

outloud certainly changed jeff's taste in music

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:17 (eight years ago) link

second time i've used the phrase "math rock" on this thread, apparently i'm really pining for the return of math rock

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:17 (eight years ago) link

okay Psychic Paramount is fantastic

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:17 (eight years ago) link

emil.y even turned him twee

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (eight years ago) link

DJP <--- hates metal, luvs math

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (eight years ago) link

Alright! we got DJP on board.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (eight years ago) link

So have all the PP II voters chimed in already?

― EZ Snappin, Monday, January 30, 2012 12:14 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I voted for this one, it has a great sound and a continuous rolling swagger. A bit exhausting as a full listen though, I've mostly been playing individual tracks on my radio show and they work really well.

sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (eight years ago) link

listened to two psychic paramount tracks and i'm into it. kinda like a dronier, dancier tortoise, but harder & better than that sounds? actually i like it in some of the same ways i like liturgy.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (eight years ago) link

DJP loves Iron Maiden

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (eight years ago) link

C'mon is the first Low album I've really *loved* since Things We Lost In The Fire.

I'd assumed that Veronica Falls album was bullshit tweepop but maybe I should give it a shot.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:19 (eight years ago) link

Wait, people are talking about me on here. I'm confused! Why is this happening? And yeah, I used to have a pretty serious outloud addiction,but I'm trying to curb it.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:20 (eight years ago) link

Heh, for some reason I assumed Veronica Falls was like some The Head and The Heart type folk that was made by dudes that were making Vagrant style emo four years ago.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:20 (eight years ago) link

n/a, would I like Psychic Paramount?

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:21 (eight years ago) link

the various designations of "metal" are seriously the most vexing thing to me

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:21 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/oixad.jpg

64. Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (290 points, nine votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 132

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:21 (eight years ago) link

"Veronica Falls" sounds like Hollywood sadcore to me.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:21 (eight years ago) link

I just call(PP) mind blowing, loud psychedlic noise. I believe they were labelled post-rock in their formative years.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:22 (eight years ago) link

See I like PP II as a full album because it maintains the heavy swirl and general noisy loud feeling for a sustained period. One track is great but it's more effort for me to get into- and then out of- that mood than it is to just kind of let it go for 40 min or so (or however long the album is, not sure exactly, am at work computer atm) I can see how people wouldn't have the patience for it, but that's part of what I like.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:22 (eight years ago) link

Hollywood sadcore goes for the dreamy slow vibe, doesn't it? That's nothing like what V. Falls do.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:22 (eight years ago) link

Metal cru representin'

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:23 (eight years ago) link

nice timing djp (yay)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:23 (eight years ago) link

jaymc i don't think you would, it has some post-rock elements but it's probably too loud/abrasive ... but who knows?

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:23 (eight years ago) link

ive been loving the WITTR lately (after i voted unfortunately). <3 the dead can danceisms in the first track

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:23 (eight years ago) link

also the 'knife sharpening' sample in track 2 is pretty badass

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (eight years ago) link

i think i forgot to listen to the new WITR, is it significantly different from their other stuff?

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (eight years ago) link

the psychic paramount used to be Laddio Bolocko, who were one of my favourite bands. TPP doesnt disappoint at all.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (eight years ago) link

ooh i liked their last record but i tuned out metal completely this year so havent heard this one. sweet album title though

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (eight years ago) link

Psychic Paramount are psych but they feel quite jazzrock in a high velocity Last Exit sort of way. huge xps

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (eight years ago) link

Jaymc I'm not sure if you would like PP or not -- it's kinda aimless compared to what I think you usually like. But iirc I first heard PP when n/a recommended it to you, me, and Dan M last year around this time!

I didn't vote for WITTR but I like them alright.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:25 (eight years ago) link

and the WITTR is the best album they've made I think. Love all their albums though. Fuck the tr00 kvlt black metallers who don't like them

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:25 (eight years ago) link

Outloud is one of those things I wish I had the time to do - just don't see how I'd fit it in though, in practise :(

What kind of music is veronica falls? Soz if this has been gone over, am on bberry and only skimmed

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:25 (eight years ago) link

I definitely like what Wolves in the Throne Room are doing musically more than Liturgy

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:26 (eight years ago) link

ha ha because it's more goth

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:27 (eight years ago) link

VF, to me, sounds like some sunny Cali late 60s stuff filtered through C86 sonics and presented with a little more gloom than either.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:27 (eight years ago) link

ha ha because it's more goth

... embarrassingly, that is so OTM

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:28 (eight years ago) link

"Bad Feeling" is a great VF track to get a taste imo.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Hollywood sadcore goes for the dreamy slow vibe, doesn't it? That's nothing like what V. Falls do.

I've never heard the band. I was just riffing on the name.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Metal, taking back the wolves. Suck it, indie rock!

You'd fit in fine, Lex, considering the variety of stuff that gets played – but on the other hand, you might not like a lot of the stuff that gets played.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:29 (eight years ago) link

Re Pyschic Paramount: "aimless" and "abrasive" certainly aren't my thing, but "post-rock" and "jazzrock" are. I guess I'll have to listen.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:29 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if any of the 14 metal albums I voted for will place. Probably not.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:29 (eight years ago) link

xp - You would have to at least pretend to be tolerant of the stuff that gets played.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:30 (eight years ago) link

Haha maybe just as well I can't do it then

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:31 (eight years ago) link

outloud is mostly kerr and j3ff t 24/7 with some occasional dance crew, take that how you will

try again, fascist (Matt P), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:31 (eight years ago) link

I should give it a go at some pt though - always interesting to try out music social media things that actually catch on (so many don't)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:32 (eight years ago) link

ive not been in for a few days

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:32 (eight years ago) link

FALSEHOOD AND LIES.

You don't have to pretend to be tolerant, you just have to not be overwhelmingly negative like KJB :P.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:33 (eight years ago) link

Well, we do have KJB in there regularly and he hates almost everything! But yeah, most people are pretty respectful of what others play. It's nice to be nice. You're more than welcome to join in, lex, as is everyone else - it's an open place.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:33 (eight years ago) link

xpost hahaha

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:33 (eight years ago) link

Reminder: KJB prefers live recordings over studio work.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:34 (eight years ago) link

I think KJB's taste overlaps with mine significantly!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:34 (eight years ago) link

you love bucks fizz?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:35 (eight years ago) link

Big fan of the Clean, iirc.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:35 (eight years ago) link

ke$ha?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (eight years ago) link

My only experience with Outloud was dropping in a handful of times while my wife was out of town, but I heard in there what ended up being my #2 track.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (eight years ago) link

I think Lil Kim

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (eight years ago) link

Save us J0rdan Fever!

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (eight years ago) link

J0rdan and I aren't related, btw. That's a coincidence.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:38 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/c1OjA.jpg

63. Austra - Feel it Break (290 points, ten votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 85

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:38 (eight years ago) link

If Cosmic Dead places, I think that that will be proof positive of the effectiveness of the outloud hivemind this year.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:38 (eight years ago) link

This album is almost expressly made to push all my buttons, but failed to do so every time I gave it a listen. :(

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:39 (eight years ago) link

This is one that I couldn't get with when it was released in the summer, and I resolved to give it a try in the winter, but when the winter came I just defaulted to actual Fever Ray instead. Not bad at all though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:40 (eight years ago) link

i played this a lot for about a month, still think it's p good

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:40 (eight years ago) link

HOORAY for Austra! I love Katie Stelmanis' voice so much, and I feel like this album is appealing to a wider audience than her solo stuff (even though I like the solo stuff better tbh).

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Don't get the Austra love, I really really tried but it never clicked for me.

Would love to see Cosmic Dead place here!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:43 (eight years ago) link

I don't really dig the cold production so much as her warm voice.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:44 (eight years ago) link

the austra album is great! didn't know there was solo stuff out there, i'll have to dig around.

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:44 (eight years ago) link

here you go http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Join+Us/1457509

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:45 (eight years ago) link

la lechera u r a treat!

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:46 (eight years ago) link

there is a youtube of her singing "harder now" but i will resist posting it here. it's amazing!!

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:46 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/6fIT2.jpg

62. Drake – Take Care (292 points, 8 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 8
P&J: 8

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:48 (eight years ago) link

allow me to get my lex on, UGH

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:49 (eight years ago) link

I don't understand what anyone sees in Drake at all, so boring and lifeless and whining. Just, so awful.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:49 (eight years ago) link

don't know why he's so glum having a chalice of mead in a hobbit bar

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:50 (eight years ago) link

And a golden chicken drumstick.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:51 (eight years ago) link

i understand ppl's qualms with drake the person... it was prob my favorite album of the year sonically speaking, and dude is a good writer, getting better as a rapper

just the best big, pure pop album of 2011

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:52 (eight years ago) link

so contemptuous of drake and anyone who thinks that album is either emotionally moving or beautiful-sounding

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:52 (eight years ago) link

lol xp

it was prob my favorite album of the year sonically speaking

this makes so little sense to me. ALBUM SOUNDS NOTHINGY.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:52 (eight years ago) link

I don't understand why people let their dislike of Drake as a person or a rapper affect their opinion of his music.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:52 (eight years ago) link

ya that ones a real mystery

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:53 (eight years ago) link

i'm not here to hate so i will just wait until something i like pops up again...that run was good while it lasted!

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:53 (eight years ago) link

Drake is THE WORST

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:53 (eight years ago) link

this is like people who find tree of life "beautiful". do they gaze enraptured at windows screensavers and stock photography too?

do people who listen to drake vibe out to lift muzak?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:53 (eight years ago) link

I don't understand why people let their dislike of Drake as a person or a rapper affect their opinion of his music.

his rapping is on the music! i wouldn't dislike HIM if he didn't make the shitty music.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:54 (eight years ago) link

See, despite my misgivings I actually listened to Take Care in whole and am still pissed I wasted that much of my life. Its not his persona that bothers me, its how limp and lifeless the album was. A couple nice beats, but completely destroyed by his pissing and moaning.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:54 (eight years ago) link

Thora Vukk was in my top 10 list. Glad it made it. I have only heard 3 of the other ones so far. I suck at it but maybe I'll post a first impression on each one when the countdown for today is over.

Moka, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:55 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, the timbre of his voice is kind of dorky, but the rapping doesn't get in the way of the excellent production.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:55 (eight years ago) link

xp What's not to understand? The artist and the art are inextricably intertwined in a lot of ways. It would be nice to say that you could look at the work objectively without bringing in outside influences, but that's cutting off an entire aspect of the work.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:55 (eight years ago) link

limp and lifeless

otm. just INERT. this is not good sound design - the sonics don't go anywhere or do anything except be ~vaguely~ ~melancholy~

the album's most ear-catching beat is a jamie xx beat - and jamie xx himself was the most horribly overrated british electronic producer of 2011

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:56 (eight years ago) link

Drake is a musical canker sore

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:56 (eight years ago) link

drake just reminds me of listening to 22 year olds complaining about feeling old

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:56 (eight years ago) link

I feel like its a banner day when lex otms me, I feel like we so rarely agree.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:57 (eight years ago) link

Good to see Veronica Falls place. Got a good feeling I missed it off my rushed ballot.

DavidM, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:57 (eight years ago) link

even on the drake remixes i like, like the jojo one that showed up in the tracks poll, or the angel haze ones, even then the production isn't the attraction - it works as a background foil to a compelling persona or narrative, when it works, not as a thing that's remarkable in its own right

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:58 (eight years ago) link

http://i.qkme.me/72mv.jpg

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:58 (eight years ago) link

incidentally all these weeks later i'm still getting angry tweets from drake fans over my review - who'd have ever thought drake fans would be whiny lil bitches? taking after their hero ;_;

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:59 (eight years ago) link

clearly none of you have ever viewed the aftermath of a party through a haze of smoke

Number None, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:59 (eight years ago) link

The only nice thing I'll say about Take Care is that the cover art is great.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I don't even love Take Care -- the previous album made more of an impression -- but I guess I always want to defend him because I like the production and mood of his records, and the complaints about his persona or his lyrical POV are irrelevant to how I listen to music.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I think he sounds like a nasally fart

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:00 (eight years ago) link

The mood is too one-note though and sustaining it over the length of 75 minutes or w/e is just pure torture.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:01 (eight years ago) link

I have never heard Drake. But I instinctively know I would probably hate him as much as Lex.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:01 (eight years ago) link

The mood is too one-note though and sustaining it over the length of 75 minutes or w/e is just pure torture.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, January 30, 2012 1:01 PM Bookmark

OTM

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:02 (eight years ago) link

do people who listen to drake vibe out to lift muzak?

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, January 30, 2012 3:53 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually kinda

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:02 (eight years ago) link

I think he sounds like a nasally fart

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, January 30, 2012 9:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The mood is too one-note though and sustaining it over the length of 75 minutes or w/e is just pure torture.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, January 30, 2012 9:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm x 2

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:03 (eight years ago) link

oh J0RDAN

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:03 (eight years ago) link

wow take care and WTT outside of the top 50 is pretty impressive ilm

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:03 (eight years ago) link

What the hell is lift ... oh, lol, Britishes.

And sure, why not.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:04 (eight years ago) link

I was kind of grooving on the beat of the first track, and then he started rapping and it was literally the same phobic physical reaction I have when a mosquito buzzes in my ear, only in this case the mosquito was sadly bragging about how awesome he was

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:04 (eight years ago) link

irl lol

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (eight years ago) link

take care, more like take that shit somewhere else

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (eight years ago) link

i've done my fair share of drake defending this year, so i'll let all this pass

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (eight years ago) link

I heard Michael McDonald in an elevator a few weeks ago, I could have vibed to that for awhile longer than the ride took tbh.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (eight years ago) link

alright last one today

i forgot to compile the full list in text, my bad

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (eight years ago) link

never forget: "shout out to the asian girls, let the lights dim sum" ;_; ;_;

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/MAJzB.jpg

61. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes (294 points, 10 votes)

P4K: 43
P&J: 38

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (eight years ago) link

also i stopped using em dashes halfway thru cuz i switched to my work computer which uses windows

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (eight years ago) link

file lykke li w/ low in ppl i had no idea put out albums this year

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (eight years ago) link

I always want to like Lykke Li more than I actually do

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (eight years ago) link

i dont think i knew this album existed (oh lol xps)

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:07 (eight years ago) link

yeah, this album was pretty boring.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:07 (eight years ago) link

i discovered recently that one of my favourite songs on the cousin fik album (which i doubt will place) samples lykke li - it sounds immense as a sample and may have to cause me to revise my opinion of her (previously thought she was just a twee menace)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:07 (eight years ago) link

the lykke li album is.....fine

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:08 (eight years ago) link

Btw, Lex, your stock "stock photography" put-down of TTOL (this is at least the third time you've used that analogy, iirc?) only makes sense if the film were just a series of context-less images. It's not.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:08 (eight years ago) link

lol this first song sounds sort of like Santigold doing 60s rock

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:08 (eight years ago) link

I liked this Lykke Li album a lot when it first came out, but cooled on it significantly as the year went on.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:08 (eight years ago) link

Btw, Lex, your stock "stock photography" put-down of TTOL (this is at least the third time you've used that analogy, iirc?) only makes sense if the film were just a series of context-less images. It's not.

leaving aside the fact that the "plot", such as it is, is incredibly thin and uncompelling, it was more of an aesthetic judgment - it's the clichéd nature and weird, polished, slick shine of the film's visuals

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:09 (eight years ago) link

Lykke Li is more of a singles artist than an album artist for me.

I dig the Dave Sitek remix of "I Follow Rivers":
http://youtu.be/pWaJ35iKUO8

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:09 (eight years ago) link

incredibly thin and uncompelling

Yeah, we disagree, then.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:10 (eight years ago) link

this is the amazing lykke li sampling track btw

cousin fik - collow you (colombiana mix)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:11 (eight years ago) link

i think the only album that placed today that ive heard all the way through is drake's ://

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:11 (eight years ago) link

*follow

agh

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:11 (eight years ago) link

I really love the Lykke Li album. Thought it was a huge improvement on the debut even though there wasn't anything as brilliant as A Little Bit on there.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:14 (eight years ago) link

^^ I agree with that assessment completely.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:14 (eight years ago) link

woooo WITTR! i have much more time for them than liturgy myself. this album in particular is evidence #1 for "black metal can do more than you think" from this year.

blurgh (jjjusten), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:15 (eight years ago) link

well at least among the albums that have any possible chance of placing obv.

blurgh (jjjusten), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:15 (eight years ago) link

Sadness Is a Blessing is my favorite Lykke Li track yet, so I agree that the album was an improvement on her debut but disagree that there's not a track on there as good as Little Bit.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:18 (eight years ago) link

(previously thought she was just a twee menace)

lol

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:22 (eight years ago) link

ok, someone pls explain to me what makes WITTR exceptional? it sounds solid but i just don't hear what sets them apart.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:23 (eight years ago) link

Man I wish that Psychic Paramount sounded better cos the songs are great.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:23 (eight years ago) link

i think the only album that placed today that ive heard all the way through is drake's ://

For me, its ILXtallica...

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:24 (eight years ago) link

re: what sets WITTR apart:

random excursions into almost ambient/4AD sounding stuff with fem vocals, field recordings, anti-civ philosophy as reflected in the song titles and artwork (the back cover photo is maybe my favorite single thing about the record).

sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:24 (eight years ago) link

So has Markers got Lulu into the top 60 then?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:25 (eight years ago) link

WITTR has songs!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:26 (eight years ago) link

Tree of Life is great and real and not like Drake. Drake is more like a mumblecore picture.

abcfsk, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:26 (eight years ago) link

That Psychic Paramount record is fucking great, I feel a dunce for not putting it in my list. Gah.

I was a massive 'Drums & Guns' lover, but the new Low sounded a bit insubstantial to me.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:27 (eight years ago) link

Frankly hilarious that Jay-Z, Kanye and Drake all failed to hit the top 60.

I'm fine with the whole windswept Spectorish vibe that Lykke Li album is going for, and the songs are pretty good, just wish she didn't sing like she had a bad head cold.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:45 (eight years ago) link

I expected Watch The Throne to place at a low number, so I'm not sure where all the shock comes from... It's an inconsistent record with really awesome high points and a few of my favorite songs of the decade so far, but overall its placement here seems accurate.

billstevejim, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:48 (eight years ago) link

I've never heard the band. I was just riffing on the name.

― jaymc, Monday, January 30, 2012 8:28 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^lol OK so I guess I just got that 'Veronica Falls' is a pun name?

I voted WITTR pretty high so that's neat, Psychic Paramount somewhere in the top 20 also

Katie Stelmanis seems like a p interesting character w/ good ideas etc but I never clicked w/ the Austra album

I didn't feel especially ill disposed towards Take Care when I played it except that it JUST KEPT GOING - like if I'd been listening right through without access to a clock of some sort I'd've guessed that it was a good two hours long

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:49 (eight years ago) link

My votes thus far:

Robag Wruhme - Thora Vukk
Likely consensus pick for the best chillroom microhouse of the year, with a far broader range than recent favorite Pantha du Prince.

Barbara Panther - Barbara Panther
Veering on the bridge railing vocals chanting strident ESL lyrics over Matthew Herbert productions. A political Bjork with more vocal tricks. I'm a simple man with simple needs.

Austra - Feel It Break
Suffers from brittle production, synth presets and the recent flood of similar femme-fronted gothy electronica (Esben and the Witch, Julia Holter, Sleep ∞ Over, Zola Jesus) but Katie Stelmanis is the best songwriter of the lot, and after a couple listens I was already singing along "Who-ooo signed, the consent form?"

Kinda dissappointed in the placement of the Austra, as it means 80% of my ballot picks, including my 2 favorite albums (Emika & Gazelle Twin) are almost certainly out of contention.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:53 (eight years ago) link

I voted for Emika, don't give up yet

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:59 (eight years ago) link

Feel like the Lykke Li album and the Cults album are going for a similar vibe, but i like how Lykke Li approaches it better. Feels newer and less self-consciously retro.

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:00 (eight years ago) link

emika is great

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:06 (eight years ago) link

i love the emika and gazelle twin albums, more than austra, but they were both juuuust outside my ballot. i'd be happy to see them place though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:07 (eight years ago) link

if i'd heard gazelle twin a bit earlier that might have made my ballot tbh

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:08 (eight years ago) link

likewise re: gazelle twin, been playing that a ton lately. still haven't heard emika

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:11 (eight years ago) link

Barbara Panther - Barbara Panther
Veering on the bridge railing vocals chanting strident ESL lyrics over Matthew Herbert productions. A political Bjork with more vocal tricks. I'm a simple man with simple needs.

I get the Björk comparisons, but people who think that's her only "thing" should check out this Acid Washed tune featuring Panther, which is fun and sexy and not really Björkish at all. I hope on her future records she'll do more aggressive tracks like the first on the album; my only disappointment with it was that there perhaps too much prettiness on it after that kicker of an opener.

Tuomas, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:15 (eight years ago) link

Also, I think her ESL lyrics are kinda endearingly poignant, like on "Voodoo":

Every night I pray like a bitch
That one day the poor will eat the rich
And I don't care if that makes me a WAH WAH WAH witch!

Tuomas, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah, the awkward lyrics and delivery are definitely a point in BP's favor

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:20 (eight years ago) link

Shout out to my outloud cru homefries! Psychic Paramount is my only vote to place: I expected it to tbh. I tried to build a cosmic Dead coalition but I just don't think it was big enough, but PP album is even better!

Lots of stuff here I've been meaning to check out: Low, Austra, Veronica Falls...

non, je ned raggette rien (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:24 (eight years ago) link

drake is way too low

flopson, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:13 (eight years ago) link

voted for thora vukk, such a subtle and rewarding listen, but i also have been digging the barbara panther and psychic paramount records in the past few weeks.

i remember liking austra ok but mainly because some friends wanted to go see them play and i forced myself to check it out. the production leaves kind of a lot to be desired tho, and that voice would def get on my nerves if i had to listen to it more

psychgawsple, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:15 (eight years ago) link

ok, someone pls explain to me what makes WITTR exceptional? it sounds solid but i just don't hear what sets them apart.

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, January 30, 2012 4:23 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

imo they just nail their sound way more frequently than most bm bands--they know what they're good at and they are very well-produced.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:55 (eight years ago) link

anything about the new WITTR that might appeal to ppl who feel that their previous albums are a bit boring?

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, 30 January 2012 23:58 (eight years ago) link

no not really

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:59 (eight years ago) link

Songs!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:01 (eight years ago) link

they always had songs!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:02 (eight years ago) link

Better songs!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:02 (eight years ago) link

It sounds better the ones before it iirc - the drums seemed to have a lot more wallop - but it's basically the same sort of deal.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:03 (eight years ago) link

hing about the new WITTR that might appeal to ppl who feel that their previous albums are a bit boring?

― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, January 30, 2012 3:58 PM (24 minutes ago)

what sold me on this one (I wasn't as big a fan of Black Cascade) was that the band is now just the two brothers, they produced the rec as well I think. also, field recordings.

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:24 (eight years ago) link

just the two brothers, they produced the rec as well I think.

$1000/year on cab fare too

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:16 (eight years ago) link

well done

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:19 (eight years ago) link

sorry guys but this barbara panther album is terrible

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:42 (eight years ago) link

based on what i heard when we did this in the trax thread i don't really get the love

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:44 (eight years ago) link

sorta how i feel about all of these so far :( xp

try again, fascist (Matt P), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:45 (eight years ago) link

its like all the worst & most annoying parts of bjork w/ none of the beauty or drama or charm

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:46 (eight years ago) link

i'll admit that the track that made it on the tracks poll is the least bad

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:46 (eight years ago) link

i think jay is just as banal as kanye on WTT tbh

i still hate otis but i do like a few songs on WTT. both rappers are ehh at this point, but its def a record that got 'too big to fail'

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:49 (eight years ago) link

ok the chorus on "Dizzy" is pretty awesome

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:51 (eight years ago) link

See? Already you've stepped back on the "terrible" proclamation.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:51 (eight years ago) link

yeah this thing jordan is trying to sell like jay suddenly remembered how to rap after 7 years is so ??? to me, i just don't hear it at all

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:52 (eight years ago) link

xpost but then it goes back to the verses and its terrible again

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:53 (eight years ago) link

wait a few more seconds I bet the chorus will come back

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:55 (eight years ago) link

i'm on the next song now and it too is terrible

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:56 (eight years ago) link

haha

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:01 (eight years ago) link

I can imagine a look of delight on his face, followed by a sourpuss, and then a return of delight...

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:02 (eight years ago) link

i was the #1 vote for The Joy Formidable! crazy that they placed lower here than on P&J though, i guess we shore don't like them as much as morbz thought.

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:25 (eight years ago) link

i listened to that whole album after hearing that song on the tracks poll-- super in to it. what else should i hear by them?

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:38 (eight years ago) link

A Balloon Called Moaning was their 8-song miniLP from 2009 (4 songs reappeared on last year's album, all with (to my dismay) bigger production).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:00 (eight years ago) link

otm

mookieproof, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:01 (eight years ago) link

ok the chorus on "Dizzy" is pretty awesome...

xpost but then it goes back to the verses and its terrible again

― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, January 30, 2012 5:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if it helps, i would like to downgrade my previous GREAT to good, or really good, or something in that vicinity

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:07 (eight years ago) link

also, listened to austra and veronica falls, found them okayish

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:14 (eight years ago) link

JF have some good songs that are on neither album, my favorite being "My Beerdrunk Soul Is Sadder Than a Hundred Dead Christmas Trees"

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:17 (eight years ago) link

austra just makes me want to listen to that jj album from 2009 and the young galaxy album from 2011

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:18 (eight years ago) link

those are both so much better albums than the austra one tho

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:34 (eight years ago) link

Is there anything here I'd probably like that I haven't heard? I've only heard Toro y Moi and the three rap albums.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:38 (eight years ago) link

even though i have always loved, and of course voted for, thora vukk it keeps growing on me more and more. "ende" is such a beautiful ending track; i'd be p surprised if this (and the title track) didn't convert those not into robag's production prowess on previous EPs. so much warmth

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:39 (eight years ago) link

"My Beerdrunk Soul Is Sadder Than a Hundred Dead Christmas Trees"

Yes! People really need to track down the bonus disc that came with certain versions of the album (not in the States though, I don't think), its called It's Just A World Apart. It has that song shipz is talking about plus "Chwyrlio" a version of "Whirring" in Welsh.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:40 (eight years ago) link

rev you should def check out when saints go machine

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:41 (eight years ago) link

i put young galaxy way too low on my ballot-- did anyone else vote for it?

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:42 (eight years ago) link

I cooled a lot on that Young Galaxy album.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:42 (eight years ago) link

I love the sounds made by that YG album, but none of the songs actually keep me coming back.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:43 (eight years ago) link

i can feel that

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:44 (eight years ago) link

i, too, loved the production on the YG record but couldn't get over the arts & crafts-y vocals

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:46 (eight years ago) link

I cooled a lot on that Young Galaxy album.

i did too although i put it on p recently and liked it again. it sounds like winter vacation i think

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:47 (eight years ago) link

Maybe I should pull it out again too, haven't heard it in probably 4 or 5 months.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:47 (eight years ago) link

there are still a bunch of not v good songs but stuff like 'peripheral visionaries' marries the indie sing-along vocals w/the icy beach vibe really well

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:53 (eight years ago) link

Love that track.

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:53 (eight years ago) link

v happy to see the low album here. "'especially me" is my favourite low song since the 'curtain' LP

i haven't fallen for the veronica falls album like some have. it sounds like something i should love, and i don't mind it, but yeah. probably the 5th best album released on slumberland this year.

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:02 (eight years ago) link

probably the 5th best album released on slumberland this year.

out of curiosity what are your top 4?

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:06 (eight years ago) link

1. art museums - dancing with a hole in my heart 7"
2 - 5. ???

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:06 (eight years ago) link

lol lamp

girls names, crystal stilts, big troubles, brilliant colors

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:07 (eight years ago) link

had art museums put out a full length this year it would have totes been my #1

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:08 (eight years ago) link

last year obv

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:08 (eight years ago) link

haha that art museums 7" totally belongs on grady's list of awesome songs not nominated for ilm eoy poll

i think that and the devon williams 7" are the only things on slumberland i bought this year

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:11 (eight years ago) link

rev you should def check out when saints go machine

― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, January 30, 2012 7:41 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Tried listening to a couple songs. I really don't like that dude's voice. The music was nice and all but not compelling enough to make up for the singer.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:26 (eight years ago) link

missed the countdown as usual, today stuff:

as far as post-Silent Shout stuff goes, I couldn't get very excited about Austra/Emika/Barbara Panther/Planningtorock. Did vote for Gazelle Twin, love that one.

I voted for WTT, admittedly because the highs were pretty towering for me this year. only thing i voted for that wasn't really solid all the way through.

Toro Y Moi: That cover is amazing, especially for a dude who looks like the ultimate safe boring hipster. he puts on a great live show too.

Joy Formidable: this is okay, but I still like Ostrich the best, and considering it's the rawest track on their debut e.p. (and didn't get re-released on the Big Roar) I don't think I have much of a future with these guys. Like Crystal Antlers - loved em till they cleaned up

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:57 (eight years ago) link

I really like the When Saints Go Machine album, "Church & Law" is the standout track for me. For such an unusual album its resonance feel very precise - Black Celebration X I Am A Bird Now X Silent Shout x Comicopera.

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:13 (eight years ago) link

Toro Y Moi: That cover is amazing

OTM, surprises me that so many seem to hate it. one of the strongest, most beautiful, distinctive and memorable pieces of album art i saw last year.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:30 (eight years ago) link

sure

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:30 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

dave cool, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:36 (eight years ago) link

come on guys, i voted for that album and have no problem admitting the cover is terrible

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:38 (eight years ago) link

i bet someone worked really hard to make it http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

dave cool, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:41 (eight years ago) link

contenderizer otm

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:41 (eight years ago) link

ill take that bet (xp)

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:42 (eight years ago) link

i've never heard the album but love the image. could maybe do w/out the white box and title text (?), but the photo and band logo are grate.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:44 (eight years ago) link

its a painting iirc?

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:46 (eight years ago) link

now that would be impressive, but

the photo-- a self-portrait taken by the one-time graphic design student in a hotel bathroom

^ from the intro to a p4k "take cover" interview w chaz bundick

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:56 (eight years ago) link

the toro y moi cover freaks me out a little. is that a flower coming out of his mouth or seafood extender?

charlie h, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:20 (eight years ago) link

anyway, happy to see a bunch of my faves placing. yay for psychic paramount, liturgy, austra, robag wruhme and lykke li. also, well done ilm for preventing drake and kanye/jay-z from placing higher.

charlie h, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:25 (eight years ago) link

so contemptuous of drake and anyone who thinks that album is either emotionally moving or beautiful-sounding

lol it has sure emotionally moved a lot of yall to FURIOUS ANGER

wild 'n othing (fennel cartwright), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:40 (eight years ago) link

lol pwn

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:42 (eight years ago) link

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie

What an awful name for a band. Would never consider listening to them if not for their placement in the poll. Turns out I've listened to a few of this songs throughout the year without knowing who they were. It's ok for hipster party music. Sounds to me like the Delays and I'd much rather listen to them.

76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk

I nommed and voted for this. Ot’s always a treat to hear a producer who is proficient and well known around the techno community turning away from the dancefloor to release music that borders outside of their usual field of expertise. Thora Vukk is Wruhme’s exploration of his music’s more melancholic, contemplative side, while keeping the sense of tension and attention to detail that he has perfected as a techno producer. The result is warm, gorgeous album that is fascinating, at least on an aesthetic level. Nothing new but very pleasant to the ears.

75. Liturgy — Aesthethica

I'm sorry... I tried but Metal music wears me off after a couple of tracks. Didn't care enough to listen through half of it. Either way I'll admit that if I listened to metal the sort of structures I heard in some of the songs would probably be my kind of thing so not completely hating on this one.

74. The Joy Formidable — The Big Roar

So I've heard the songs and watched the videos and they definitely nail the alt.rock look. Somehow though I find it perhaps too carefully constructed and planned and lacking in attitude as if in reality they'd rather be a folk band or something. I also have trouble remembering the songs after a while.

73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne

Was expecting this to place much higher. It's not a bad album but I'm not particulary excited about it either. I was probably too burnt out on both of them and their personas this year. I don't really have anything to say on this one.

72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther

This sounds so much better on paper: Rwandan refugee doing electro produced by Matthew Herbert. Turns out it's a bit boring safe for a couple of songs.

71. Toro y Moi - Underneath the Pine

I could love this but it feels like that sort of seasonal music that only gets to you on a certain mood and weather and then you never listen to it after two years when you once again think it's the best thing ever before shelving it back. I actually think the artwork is the best one in the countdown so far, next to Thora Vukk.

69. Wild Flag — Wild Flag

I kind of like what I heard on first listen but I should probably give it more time. Awful artwork.

69. Low — C'Mon

Had no idea Low had released something this year. Same thing as Toro y Moi. I know I could appreciate this in the right setting but not really feeling it atm.

68. ILX Presents Lulu

I would have actually cashed money if the real album was half as good as this one.

67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls

This is cool. Never heard of them before but I'm loving this. Simple and to the point. There's some interesting twists in short spans, apt for ADD people.

Ok I'm off to sleep. I'll keep listening to the rest tomorrow.

Moka, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:48 (eight years ago) link

continuing on the Toro Y Moi cover, it's initially repulsive duh but it's a pretty bold interpretation of sexual fears, especially for a guy who was linked to a genre that never even gently rocked any boats. 2011 saw thousands of tasteful and "pretty" covers, then bam! glistening tentacle pube mouth right in your face. love love love it.

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:03 (eight years ago) link

i forgot the young galaxy album existed. ugh that's still to come i guess :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:26 (eight years ago) link

Veronica Falls appear, on the basis of the first few songs, to inhabit a world in which there are two rhythms - blankly strummed eighth notes, and the opening to 'Be My Baby'. So generic, so boring.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:49 (eight years ago) link

OTM BOMB

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:20 (eight years ago) link

i like veronica falls
on record, as well as live.
maybe they need more laser noises

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:22 (eight years ago) link

Veronica Falls appear, on the basis of the first few songs, to inhabit a world in which there are two rhythms - blankly strummed eighth notes, and the opening to 'Be My Baby'. So generic, so boring.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:49 (42 minutes ago) Permalink

Funny, I was listening to a bit of this this morning and remarking on how interesting their approach to rhythm was (at least in the song I heard). Something about the way the snare and guitar work together... Adding these guys to the list of Yuck-style Alt-'90s revival bands. I wouldn't blink if someone were to tell me Veronica Falls are from a long-lost Volume compilation from early-94. It happens I nearly joined a band who now sound very similar to these guys. Gonna have to investigate further.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:35 (eight years ago) link

I'd say that Veronica Falls are more 80s than 90s, that sound harks back to the days when Bobby Gillespie still played the drums.

As for Yuck and the Joy Formidtable and their critical success - UK indie landfill finally cracks the US??

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:34 (eight years ago) link

Landfill was the big post-Libertines Top 40 stuff like the Kooks, View, Fratellis, etc - stuff the US never warmed to. But Yuck & Joy Formidable fit right in to P4k world.

Meme Rogers (DL), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:39 (eight years ago) link

As for Yuck and the Joy Formidtable and their critical success - UK indie landfill finally cracks the US??

If anything these bands are taking 90% of their cues from US alt-rock and have nothing to do with indie landfill stuff xpost

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:42 (eight years ago) link

Doglatin I think you're kinda overblowing the significance of these 90s revivalist bands, I doubt Yuck exactly have a stellar career ahead of them.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:44 (eight years ago) link

Where did I say they did?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:45 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, it's all very Evening Sessions-esque, it's like landfill with the britpop influenced bits taken out. I like 'A Heavy Abacus' off that JF album, it's got a nice yearning quality to it, but the prospect of listening to the whole thing is about as enticing as digging through the crates of marked-down CDs in a provincial HMV circa 2003.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:47 (eight years ago) link

Really, I'm quite on the fence about Yuck - "Get Away"'s a good single, and the album's okayish. W/R/T popularity, they were positioned at about 6:45pm on a medium-sized stage at Primavera festival earlier this year - a very very early start for that festival - but when I got there to check em out it was so packed I could barely see the stage and had to climb up a hillside just to get a peak. Seems the organisers had underestimated how popular they would get between booking and album release. I wouldn't underestimate the power of nostalgia to sell units.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:51 (eight years ago) link

I took "indie landfill" to mean the same as DL said upthread - all those mid-2000s Brit-garage bands in pointy shoes and tight trousers who (to these ears) sounded exactly the same as each other. But I guess this is getting semantic. Yuck/Joy Formidable are like the NWOAlt-Rock or something. I can't tell if it's positive or negative or just inbetween. Probably just in between - if it's not hurting anyone and people like it, fair enough. Just not up for hundreds of Dinosaur Jr-ripoff bands suddenly blowing up off the back of a fad.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:56 (eight years ago) link

how come it's always the placement of indie rock bands in an ILM poll that causes the most handwringing?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:22 (eight years ago) link

I was thinking earlier that the difference in overall attitude/approach on this poll compared to the tracks poll is pretty big - almost like two different boards.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:24 (eight years ago) link

It is every year, though, from what I can remember. And bear in mind we're in the lower reaches still - a lot of the big hitters in tracks who have released album will appear later.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:29 (eight years ago) link

*albumS. I need to proof-read my posts more.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:29 (eight years ago) link

was there a nyan cat album?

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:32 (eight years ago) link

Oh I was referring more to the overall mood of the thread. Everyone seemed more energised and enthusiastic on tracks, but people seem more considerate and open minded over here. Maybe that'll all change as we reach the upper regions of the countdown.

Is it alright to speculate over the chances of Diamond Mine placing? I know KC has a small but strong contingent lurking around ILX, but will it be enough to push him into the 77?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:34 (eight years ago) link

Well I voted for Veronica Falls, Drake, and Joy F. The K.R.I.T album just missed my ballot. So out of the stuff I hadn't heard found the When Saints... hella boring. Lykke and Low were okay. Really dug Psychic Paramount though.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:36 (eight years ago) link

was there a nyan cat album?

― Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:32 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Am now imagining a "riddim" style compilation made up of different people toasting over Nyan Cat.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:36 (eight years ago) link

Album lists attract a slightly different crowd - there are people posting prolifically here who didn't post on the tracks thread at all, and I'm willing to guess there are people who only voted in the albums list (and to a lesser extent vice-versa). Also you see different types of music appearing - this list so far is a lot indier, with more consensus picks appearing.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:37 (eight years ago) link

true, true

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:39 (eight years ago) link

What's (kind of) interesting is that it's more or less the same group of voters in albums and tracks. I don't have exact numbers but I'd say well over 100 people voted in both.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:42 (eight years ago) link

My tracks ballot was mostly odd dance and some poppier stuff and my album picks are mostly weird noise. Neither of which will have much of an impact on these polls. But I do still read lots of album review, and that's my main way of finding new things, whereas with the tracks its mostly stuff that has been filtered through ILX or blogs or whatever.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:19 (eight years ago) link

Voted for 25 in the other and 4 in this - no overlap, doubt most of the ones in the track ballot will ever release an album

Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:34 (eight years ago) link

I can't remember the exact figures but I think the albums poll had about a dozen more voters.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:40 (eight years ago) link

One contributing factor to why the albums poll varies from the tracks poll is because a good number of people feel that they should avoid voting for tracks off of albums they think have multiple standouts. How many times did something either place low in the tracks poll or come up in conversation as a missing entry where several people said "oh I voted for that album instead"?

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:42 (eight years ago) link

And thank god for that. One of the reasons why, say, the Pitchfork tracks list is so boring is that it's largely people just voting for their favourite tracks off their favourite albums, and that crowds out so much great music that appears on patchy albums, or never appears on an album at all.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:27 (eight years ago) link

Hmm looking at it I voted 6 albums where I also voted for a track off said album. Not that bad out of 25 I guess.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:32 (eight years ago) link

I don't know if it's because I know their history before having heard the album, but Liturgy don't so much sound like a black metal band as what Oneida or Liars would sound like if they were spoofing it. The intro to True Will sounds like an Animal Collective b-side, the production is also very indie - it doesn't have that galloping "sheets of glass being dropped in a church" effect, sounds more like it was recorded in a loft. And the guy's voice is just lost - BM singing tends to be more structured whereas this just sounds like someone whooping in some vague unison with the backing. It's not that I don't like it, but this has much more in common with the NY noise/hardcore continuum than it's being given credit for.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:33 (eight years ago) link

The tracks that most miss out for me are those on albums which are mostly not-great but have a few standouts (ie you can't pick just one to vote for but the album's not good enough to vote for either). MJB springs to mind for last year

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:35 (eight years ago) link

Yeah but if any of those MJB tracks had been out-and-out amazing you'd have voted for them anyway?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:38 (eight years ago) link

Okay, so it seems Liturgy are Black Metal to Fucked Up's hardcore punk - in this case it isn't BM at all, it's math rock/post rock with screechy vocals whereas Fucked Up do pop-rock with punk vocals.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:44 (eight years ago) link

Xp not nec! There were at least 100 out-and-out amazing tracks I didn't have room to vote for

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:14 (eight years ago) link

fwiw i really like the drum sound on the liturgy record, and the WITTR record makes me think "why do drums usually sound so terrible on metal records?"

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:25 (eight years ago) link

so in a roundabout way dog latin is saying Liturgy is hipster metal made by indie kids and not proper metal at all?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:25 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if Mastodon will place if we're talking about awesome drummers.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:26 (eight years ago) link

I guess this is all a symptom of the net and the way it's bolstered listeners into having "eclectic" tastes. The more websites like Pitchfork are expected to diversify from their original indie-rock template, the more a market opens up for music from disparate styles that somehow fits into this template.

I feel kind of precious for listening to Liturgy and saying "but that's not Black Metal!", but I'd say I'm justified in the same way the Lex will complain about The Weeknd and Frank Ocean - by fitting into this eclectic schema, these acts lose a lot of their edge. Liturgy's all very well, but why listen to these guys when there's probably a grillion more worthy metal albums out there not getting the same kind of attention? Well that's obvious - Liturgy are approachable, they speak frankly and openly in interviews, they're not from inaccessible Scandinavian outback, they don't wear fright make-up and chainmail and they don't go around burning churches and eating each other's brains - all factors which make the genre inaccessible to the casual fan. But if you take these away, what are you left with? A BBFC-approved version of the original style with all the cigarettes airbrushed out. No offence to people who come to metal via Liturgy, however I can imagine the majority of newcomers approach Liturgy as exactly that - a "safe" gateway into a style that bypasses all those difficult hurdles that people have trouble with when listening to albums like Filosofem or Battles In The North. But by avoiding these obstacles, you're not so much jumping in the deep end as wading around in the surf, which isn't really any fun at all.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:26 (eight years ago) link

i like to imagine he looks like HEALTH's drummer

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:28 (eight years ago) link

I don't have much of a problem with anything that dog latin has to say (though I can certainly see arguments against it) except for the assertion that wading around in the surf is no fun. Wading around in surf is totally fun. Seriously. Get to a beach, try it, then tell me you had no fun. You'd be lying.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:31 (eight years ago) link

Save us, Johnny Fever!

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:33 (eight years ago) link

Landfill was the big post-Libertines Top 40 stuff like the Kooks, View, Fratellis, etc

This is largely true. However, I will note that the Fratellis' "Chelsea Dagger" is the theme song for the Chicago Blackhawks hockey team. Like, whenever they score a goal, the stadium blares the song and everyone sings along. Kind of funny b/c most people here don't even know who the band is.

jaymc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:36 (eight years ago) link

ah, emil.y I guess that's where the rule is dis-proven because I'm completely guilty of "paddling" when it comes to genres like r'n'b, which unlike metal I didn't really have a lot of exposure to in my former years. As a dilettante who's nevertheless willing to hear more, I'm still naturally drawn to the more Pitchfork-y end of the genre (Badu, Monae, Ocean et al). I still find some of the more outré r'n'b tropes hard to grasp onto, maybe even off-putting. And while I'm aware that many will dismiss the above artists as perhaps lacking in something or other, I still find them a useful access point.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:37 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, its so weird that that song is pretty much universally known around Chicago as "that Blackhawks song", sort of like Gary Glitter's "Rock and Roll Part 2" has basically been "the Bulls intro song" since the Jordan era.

(xpost re jaymc's post)

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:38 (eight years ago) link

I was actually being an annoying literalist, tbh.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:39 (eight years ago) link

the Fratellis' "Chelsea Dagger" is the theme song for the Chicago Blackhawks hockey team

Hockey + barroom Britpop are basically made for each other. Wasn't Song 2 a big hockey tune?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:39 (eight years ago) link

The tune from "Chelsea Dagger", incidentally, was written by me when I got my first guitar. Ten years later and it's a big hit. Drat.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:41 (eight years ago) link

dog latin is rich

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:41 (eight years ago) link

Erykah Badu was embraced by R&B fans well before Pitchfork was.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:42 (eight years ago) link

But I suppose the issue with eclecticism is that it can end up going one of two ways - constant collaging and changing and mixing leading to fresh sounds and new forms, or ending up with a homogenised landscape where everything is mixed up but nothing is on the outskirts pushing in a new direction.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:42 (eight years ago) link

er that wasn't right

Erykah Badu was embraced by R&B fans well before she was embraced by Pitchfork.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:43 (eight years ago) link

Badu maybe not so much DJP, true.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:43 (eight years ago) link

I was wondering what you were on about there.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:43 (eight years ago) link

just talking shit, ignore me. when's the countdown gonna return?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:45 (eight years ago) link

I first heard of the Liturgy album from Doran, a couple of months before it came out. I was p eager about it, and when I saw that some blog had offered a preview track--"Returner"--I snatched it up. I think that turned out to be the second track, ie one of the tracks that ppl on this thread did NOT at all like. But I was very taken with it. I was not familiar with black metal as a genre at all, but even I coiuld tell there was something different about it: I kept feeling like it should have its own genre, like "blue metal" or "sky metal": to these ears at least, that song was all soar and swoop.

The Quietus wrote:

they forge a unique sound that uses the form of black metal not to reflect on the cruelty and isolation of existence but to harness the elemental violence of nature

which to me was otmfm.

Unfortunately, when I finally listened to the album, I found it tedius. Turns out "Returner" was all I needed for them, so I voted for that song high on my tracks ballot, and left Aesthethica off my albums ballot...

I've only heard two Joy Formidable: "The Last Drop" which was nominated in the all-time shoegazer list last year--where I voted for it--and "Whirring". Whirring is okay, but I'm just happy that it turned out that the JFs were the WElsh version of the Silversun Pickups (a far far better band than Yuck)

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:46 (eight years ago) link

D'oh, I actually didn't mean you then, I meant DJP's garbled post where he seemed to be asserting that R&B fans now love Pitchfork. Which they might do, I guess, I dunno.

xpost

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:46 (eight years ago) link

loads of xps later

that shd read 'two Joy Formidable SONGS' btw. smh @ myself

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:47 (eight years ago) link

D.A.M. - I don't listen to BM that much any more at all. I think what I'm saying is people shouldn't just check out Liturgy, give it a quick listen and then stop at that. It's really not that remarkable and the aesthetic angle they're going for has more in common with Mogwai or Liars or Lightning Bolt than any metal I can think of. I really despise myself for saying these things as there's nothing worse than a "True Metal" boor, but hey that's my feeling on the subject.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:54 (eight years ago) link

Also, only listening to the first track on that Liturgy album is not really the way to go. If you want to sample only one song I'd say either "Returner", "Generation", or "Veins of God" would be the way to go. The first track doesn't really do their approach justice, imho.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:57 (eight years ago) link

not to reflect on the cruelty and isolation of existence but to harness the elemental violence of nature
see to me, these are sort of the same thing, so i was disappointed when i really didn't hear it. maybe i didn't give it a chance? i like black metal but liturgy just didn't speak to me. it's also possible i was in the wrong mood the one time i gave it a chance...

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:59 (eight years ago) link

I'll try again if you guys think it's worth it. Sometimes I just feel like I'm biting at the "violent nature" catnip though.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:01 (eight years ago) link

Well I definitely think Liturgy is distinctly (and purposefully!) far removed from what other black metal bands have been doing. I think its actually easier for someone with little black metal experience to get into Liturgy, but I'm having trouble with spelling out exactly why. For me, I hated Liturgy at first, but once I kind of realigned my expectations and approached it differently from standard black metal, I was able to really appreciate it on its own terms.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:07 (eight years ago) link

i can totally see why someone who cares about black metal would get annoyed with liturgy and the attention that they've gotten, but i do think they're doing something remarkable. not necessarily better than straight-up black metal but different enough. they might be coming from a different perspective and appropriating black metal tropes, but i don't think it's being done in a cynical way, and they execute it really well.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:11 (eight years ago) link

Jordan very much otm wrt to that post, they are doing something remarkable and I think a good sign that it works is how many "tr00 kvlt" fans are pissed off by it.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:15 (eight years ago) link

not to reflect on the cruelty and isolation of existence but to harness the elemental violence of nature
see to me, these are sort of the same thing, so i was disappointed when i really didn't hear it. maybe i didn't give it a chance? i like black metal but liturgy just didn't speak to me. it's also possible i was in the wrong mood the one time i gave it a chance...

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:59 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, this is what I got - to me BM has to project images and ideas - it's gotta be more than just playing fast and howling. Those first couple of Emperor albums, as an example, have the power to transport me. It's like watching an epic fantasy movie or getting immersed in a good video game. It's supposed to be imaginative, mood-setting, and I don't get that from Liturgy. I also don't understand the distinction in the quote, nor how a number of metal (and hardcore, especially hardcore) bands don't do this kind of thing already. It makes me wonder if Liturgy have actually got the idea of BM completely wrong, making it out to be nothing but cruel, negative ruminations on death when really it's a lot more complex than that.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:15 (eight years ago) link

how come you never see intense no wave fans moaning about Liturgy shitting up Glen Branca's wall-o-guitar stylings with stupid banshee metal screeching

that's what I want to know

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:16 (eight years ago) link

Jordan very much otm wrt to that post, they are doing something remarkable and I think a good sign that it works is how many "tr00 kvlt" fans are pissed off by it.

― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:15 (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm honestly not being facetious here, but what exactly is remarkable about this? To me it sounds exactly like what Liars would make if they decided to "go metal" - I don't see that as remarkable from a metal POV or an indie POV?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:18 (eight years ago) link

however I can imagine the majority of newcomers approach Liturgy as exactly that - a "safe" gateway into a style that bypasses all those difficult hurdles that people have trouble with when listening to albums like Filosofem or Battles In The North.

Those albums are 15+ years old now. Of course newcomers are going to check out modern bands. Thankfully we haven't hit Classic Extreme Metal era yet like with Rock, where people only check out metal from 30/40 years ago.
Also its rather telling that dog latin brings up older bands as he hasn't listened to metal in about a decade at least so cant name any modern day touchstones.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:21 (eight years ago) link

and ANYTHING is better than nu-metal or metalcore which have been the biggest commercial sub-genres for 15 years and also the worst thing to hit metal since the shitty glam era bands.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:23 (eight years ago) link

sure, but i don't see what any of that's got to do with it, Kerr.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:25 (eight years ago) link

i totally get epic fantasy movie from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pt4K7KvJcI

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:25 (eight years ago) link

To me it sounds exactly like what Liars would make if they decided to "go metal" -

liars or mogwai would never be able to pull off what's happening rhythmically here.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Imho, Liturgy's approach is remarkable only because they are bringing an entirely new approach to black metal, which has traditionaly been a very rigid genre. I'm not the guy to effectively break down the differences, but when you've listened to a lot of black metal you can get a feel for how different their approach really is. One way I've really noticed is the drumming, which is shift off the rest of the band in a way that you rarely encounter in black metal.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:27 (eight years ago) link

charlie you need to listen to more metal this year! (and check out good stuff you missed since you stopped paying attention.)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:27 (eight years ago) link

i am arguing about metal on the internet!

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:27 (eight years ago) link

the drummer left Liturgy btw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:28 (eight years ago) link

People started to get all upset about Nachtmystium for a while there, and then Liturgy came along and now no one cares how super goth dance "No Funeral" sounds. Do they? (I personally love that song, but I am a Nachtmystium stan/apologist) I guess they will either stick with this sound or ditch it for their next album, thereby illustrating how they were just dressing up as a metal band, etc.

I don't really care either way tbh. I am also arguing about metal on the internet.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:28 (eight years ago) link

there's more chat about metal on this thread than on the metal poll thread. Where were you guys? Vote next year!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:28 (eight years ago) link

the drummer left Liturgy btw

i know. :(

do they have a new drummer?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:29 (eight years ago) link

People started to get all upset about Nachtmystium for a while there

Ironic considering Nachtmystium was who coined the term Nigel Metal for hipsters getting into black metal.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:29 (eight years ago) link

the drummer left Liturgy btw

I know, and I'm really bummed about this and curious to see how that affects their next record.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:30 (eight years ago) link

ha you don't want that, liturgy was the only metal album i listened to this year, unless you count dub trio.

xp

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:30 (eight years ago) link

I guess we're talking about metal only because there's no Lana Del Rey album to argue about. Next year you will be getting nostalgic..

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:31 (eight years ago) link

I admit I'm not so familiar with the newer acts, but I am aware that there's a lot more out there than just Liturgy. If Liturgy were blowing my mind I wouldn't have room to complain about them, but as such they're an indiefication of metal who go so far as to write "manifestos" in order to justify their own existence. These manifestos go so far as to disassociate the band with perceived BM tropes, implicitly disparaging those other bands: "We play black metal, but without all the goat-slaughtering and stuff so it's okay" - y'know, as if every BM band before them was hell-bent on sacrificial occultism.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:32 (eight years ago) link

Fwiw, and keeping in mind I have not yet read HHH's text in full, I don't think they are trying to disparage the old acts as much as emphasize "positivity" in black metal instead of "negativity".

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:33 (eight years ago) link

we scream about hope v. they scream about despair

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:33 (eight years ago) link

i don't really know much about black metal but liturgy sound a lot "cleaner" than most modern black metal bands i've heard - they sound really precise and trebley and focused and repetition-based while most modern black metal sounds murkier and wandering. i think liturgy has taken out a lot of the goth/folk elements from the traditional black metal sound. this isn't a value judgement, i just think there's an obvious difference to how they sound instead of just a difference in how they look/present themselves

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:34 (eight years ago) link

what makes liturgy "indie metal" aside from how they look?

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:35 (eight years ago) link

Yeah n/a pretty much otm. I also hear a little bit of what Liturgy does in Krallice, to some extent.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:35 (eight years ago) link

Thing with Liturgy is, if say some ilxors wanted to check out some metal as a way in im not sure I'd say Liturgy. Even if they wanted a way in to BM, I'd pick wittr before Liturgy as a new band/album. Obv you have a good choice of classic 90s era too.
I don't know who i would recommend for other sub-genres. Mastodon are more rock than metal these days. I'd recommend them to peoople who ,miss Qotsa.

If you like clean vox and proggy keyboards Id say go for the new Hammers Of Misfortune (which won metal poll) My #1 was the Corrupted album but I'd never inflict them on the uninitiated (see wiki link for why if you're curious)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:38 (eight years ago) link

what makes liturgy "indie metal" aside from how they look?

just playing along, but interest in minimalism?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:38 (eight years ago) link

the manifesto is a good point. i think i said it upthread, but i will say it again. that shit reads like a dr bronner's bottle crossed with maharishi school of management jargon. why exactly is it necessary to write a manifesto? i get screaming about hope but i should be able to tell that you are screaming about hope. otherwise, why not let the listener determine/interpret for him or herself?

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:38 (eight years ago) link

n/a is OTM, which is why I don't have a problem with a black metal band in hipster clothes, but the music also SCREAMS Williamsburg-scene rock. Those Animal Collective-style segues, the Hella-style rhythm patterns, the whole Liars-ness of it. Also think the singing is pointless, almost pisstakey in it's delivery.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:38 (eight years ago) link

I prefer Krallice to Liturgy too, but I do really like Liturgy (i obv voted for it)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:39 (eight years ago) link

you don't have to read it?

xp

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:40 (eight years ago) link

i know, but i guess i think it's obnoxious that they felt compelled to write it and tell people what their music is "about." can't we figure it out on our own? i think we can.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:41 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah, I want to make clear that I'm not fully standing behind the manifesto or the whole "positive" vs "negative" approach, just mentioning other ways that people might be able to make an entrance to the music. Basically, I dig what they are doing, manifesto or no, but like ASR, I prefer Krallice.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (eight years ago) link

i think maybe you guys are underestimating how many modern metal bands dabble in minimalism and other forms of experimentation

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (eight years ago) link

xp to Jordan a lot of classic BM is minimal though- e.g. Darkthrone. It's been a strand for a long time.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (eight years ago) link

or what n/a said

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (eight years ago) link

Those Animal Collective-style segues, the Hella-style rhythm patterns, the whole Liars-ness of it.

lol this says like 100 x more about your sphere of reference than it does Liturgy's

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:44 (eight years ago) link

I bought the manifesto for $4 btw. I haven't read it, I just wanted it as a curio really. If people are still talking about it in a decade or so I can say 'oh i have that'. I probably still wont read it though.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:44 (eight years ago) link

I know it's a completely different thing but listening to Liturgy just made me want to listen to Naked City instead

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:46 (eight years ago) link

i think Liturgy do a very good job of marketing themselves to specific listeners (i.e. me). i mean, the first record I bought from them was the Immortal Life 12" based solely on the huge TRANSCENDENTAL BLACK METAL printed on the back of the sleeve. coming from noise and drone, i definitely saw the transcendental potential of extreme music like black metal, but I never really saw anyone embracing it as openly

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:48 (eight years ago) link

also i love the manifesto: more bands should do faux-spiritual self-mythologizing

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:49 (eight years ago) link

oh no no no no no NO

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:49 (eight years ago) link

and that is coming from someone who spent five years listening to Insane Clown Posse

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:50 (eight years ago) link

Also, lets not forget this album was released on Thrill Jockey and not Candlelight or Peaceville. That automatically shifts the target audience in a not insignificant way.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:50 (eight years ago) link

The manifesto just seems like an underestimation of the listener/super condescending drivel, and I would no sooner like to read his manifesto than read a pamphlet written by a painter that explains his/her painting to me. I can see having it as a curio though. It's definitely a ridiculous gesture on their part. I can ignore it, or at least try to forget that it exists.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:52 (eight years ago) link

i recommend this interview with the dude from liturgy, he doesn't sound like a dick and plays some good tunes: http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/39826

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:52 (eight years ago) link

to me, the manifesto is just play: they're having fun with symbols and mythology. i don't understand the condescending reading of it that most people seem to have

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:53 (eight years ago) link

btw n/a, i like vorvolakas like 500x more than (what i remember about) liturgy, no exaggeration

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:53 (eight years ago) link

pamphlet written by a painter that explains his/her painting to me.

you mean like an "artist statement"?

(i hate these btw, although they're usually better than the art that requires a statement. i don't think liturgy's music requires an explanation at all, although it certainly got them a lot of attention.)

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:54 (eight years ago) link

Those Animal Collective-style segues, the Hella-style rhythm patterns, the whole Liars-ness of it.

lol this says like 100 x more about your sphere of reference than it does Liturgy's

― bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:44 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Mmm... Considering who they are and where they're from and who they hang out with, I don't think that's true at all. Again, I don't have a problem with people appropriating metal; but I'm less up for these guys since they make themselves out to be more than a post-rock band with screaming. Calling themselves a metal band is misleading - this is no more metal to my ears than JJ or Dirty Projectors are R'n'B, and it's disappointing to think that people might check out Liturgy and just stop there thinking that that is what BM is all about.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:54 (eight years ago) link

xp - yeah i guess so
i have no interest in reading those things

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:55 (eight years ago) link

I wish I'd have heard vorvolakas in time for my singles ballot.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:55 (eight years ago) link

who they hang out with

that's a pretty big assumption though? judging from that interview i posted, their influences are basically black metal, old chant/church music, and meshuggah.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:56 (eight years ago) link

also if they are engaging in play with the manifesto, that's disrespectful of the violent power of nature, which requires no explanation and speaks for itself all the time. they cannot win with the manifesto!

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:56 (eight years ago) link

i find it kinda funny that on a site that's pretty open minded when it comes to music criticism wouldn't enjoy an artist thinking critically about his art

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:57 (eight years ago) link

I don't think this site is open-minded about music criticism at all!

It is relatively open-minded about music, though.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:58 (eight years ago) link

who they hang out with

that's a pretty big assumption though? judging from that interview i posted, their influences are basically black metal, old chant/church music, and meshuggah.

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:56 (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

by this, I mean they share a lot of musicians with the rest of the Williamsburg scene - e.g. the drummer plays in Dan Deacon's band AFAIK

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:58 (eight years ago) link

jordan needs to start posting new results so we can stop talking about this

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:59 (eight years ago) link

so where can i go from liturgy, and wittr into trv kvlt black metal? i like blast beats, atmospherics, and white noise sonic assaults

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:01 (eight years ago) link

isn't Dan Deacon from Baltimore?

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:01 (eight years ago) link

xp Darkthrone are a good bet. Best drummer in the business IMO.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:02 (eight years ago) link

dd is from baltimore

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:03 (eight years ago) link

60. Lana Del Rey ft. Tyler the Creator – Plays Burzum (293 points, 10 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 1

Spotify

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:04 (eight years ago) link

it's disappointing to think that people might check out Liturgy and just stop there thinking that that is what BM is all about.

that would be disappointing if it was happening to any meaningful extent yes

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:05 (eight years ago) link

Save us J0rdan Fever!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:05 (eight years ago) link

xp
The Benoit & Sergio remix was robbed.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:05 (eight years ago) link

lol n/a that would shut down ILM

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:06 (eight years ago) link

yes, please let's post some new albums. i think i'm starting to protract my argument far beyond where it was meant to go. Liturgy are okay really, just not what I'm looking for.

DD85 - I can only advise on older BM up to about 2004, after that I stopped being so current with it. There are some great rolling threads on ILX and/or the poll which ASR conducted (been dipping in and out of this uncovering a wealth of interesting things). For full on BM blast, you can't go two wrong with Ulver's third album "Nattens Madrigal". I'm a huge Emperor fan, and would recommend their "Best Of" which is called Scattered Ashes. For more experimental stuff, later Ulver albums like the Blood Inside are pretty prog-tastic, as is Arcturus's Sham Mirrors (a personal fave). I have a soft-spot for the Japanese Black/Thrash band Sigh, who are kind of hilarious and terrifying at the same time.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:08 (eight years ago) link

oh xposts.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:08 (eight years ago) link

the drummer left Liturgy btw

i know. :(

do they have a new drummer?

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:29 AM (28 minutes ago)

they're touring in feb (w/ sleigh bells and diplo lol), curious to see if they'll go back to using a drum machine. I feel for those guys, greg fox is not easily replaced.

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:09 (eight years ago) link

Not sure which will be harder to overcome tbh, losing Greg Fox or touring with Sleigh Bells and Diplo.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:13 (eight years ago) link

diplo on the drum machine as liturgy's drummer

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:13 (eight years ago) link

thanks for the recs! xp neil s, dog latin

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:13 (eight years ago) link

I can't wait for Liturgy to cut an album w the Weeknd!

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

Sleigh Bells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>^infinity Liturgy

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

"(Bloodied) Crown on the (Darkened) Ground"

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

DJP offtm.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:14 (eight years ago) link

At this point, fuck everyone who voted for that Liturgy album.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:15 (eight years ago) link

for the vast majority of popular sphere musicians out there (and I include metal in the "popular sphere"), 2 minute songs > 9 minute songs

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:16 (eight years ago) link

get me out of this popular sphere

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:17 (eight years ago) link

Man I was all sorts of mentally otming DJP yesterday, today its like I can't offtm him fast enough. Also, Matt DC needs coffee or something.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:18 (eight years ago) link

i liked it when the argument was between friday and nyan cat

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:18 (eight years ago) link

ah for the halcyon days of nyan cat's silky rhetoric

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:19 (eight years ago) link

10 minute long dance instrumentals win over either, though

http://youtu.be/O3tiOuKez4Q

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:19 (eight years ago) link

Nyan Cat's manifesto was worth reading, iirc.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Good to see all this metal discussion. I have a weird relationship with black metal. Over the past couple decades I've followed the likes of Bathory, Emperor, Meads of Asphodel, Sigh, and especially Enslaved. But it hasn't been my favorite genre lately. I like what Nachtmystium have done recently, and Absu. The Liturgy is pretty good, but I don't think it really surpasses any of the others above. I don't have any problem with Hunter-Hendrix's manifesto. There's a long tradition of artists doing this. I don't think Breton's Surrealist Manifesto took anything away from his art. Artists should be able to defend and articulate their work.

This poll was heavily promoted throughout the metal poll, so expect some more metal!

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:21 (eight years ago) link

diamonddave/dog latin check out Previous Metal Poll EOY Results Thread

I thought all this liturgy talk would get j0rdan out posting #60 since he really hates metal.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:21 (eight years ago) link

there's a link to alltime metal albums poll there too which takes you to the needle database and you can look at the 'by-genre' results.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:22 (eight years ago) link

gonna get this started at the top of the hour

kinda busy at work today, sorry

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:22 (eight years ago) link

Nyan Cat & transcendental black metal- THE TRUTH:
http://www.last.fm/tag/transcendental+black+metal

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:23 (eight years ago) link

Nyan Cat's manifesto was worth reading, iirc.

my favourite part was where it said 'nyan'.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:23 (eight years ago) link

I had come up w/ a list of possible #1 placers:

PJ Harvey
Beyonce
Katy B
Destroyer
Tim Hecker

(many x-posts)

You don' think Eye Contact has any chance to win this?

monster_xero, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:24 (eight years ago) link

Nyan Cat transcends genres: http://www.last.fm/tag/brutal+black+metal

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:26 (eight years ago) link

This poll was heavily promoted throughout the metal poll, so expect some more metal!

― Fastnbulbous,

seandalai did a sterling job promoting it but I know how hard it is to get metal punters to vote. A lot of the liturgy voters seem to be posters who did not take part in metal poll. So i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't bother voting.
I do think 1 album is a cert and possibly the 2nd. Anything else would shock me.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:26 (eight years ago) link

Its possible I guess; maybe more of a chance than Ravedeath 1972 xxp

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:27 (eight years ago) link

Britney used to be tagged as black metal. So black metal radio played Britney but Britney/pop radio played black metal.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:27 (eight years ago) link

So next year will there be a Two Lights album in the poll?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:29 (eight years ago) link

I reckon that Tim Hecker will appear in round about the same place as Emeralds and OPN did last year or maybe just a bit higher.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:29 (eight years ago) link

btw i didn't vote in this poll or the tracks one, but apparently like talking about albums way more than singles.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:30 (eight years ago) link

i didn't realize people liked tim hecker so much on here

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:30 (eight years ago) link

I hope Hecker makes it. Didn't get into my ballot but have since listened a bit more and it deserves to be in this list.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:31 (eight years ago) link

have no idea what might be wrong with combining black metal with whatever, even if that whatever is "williamsburg-scene rock". i like cross pollination and hate the purity police almost as much as i hate knee-jerk indie bashing. it seems ridiculous to disparage this band by saying that they sound like what the liars or oneida would sound like if they tried to play black metal, cuz those bands don't play black metal, and if they did, i'm sure it'd be both interesting and distinct from what liturgy are up to. the manifesto is funny. it reminds me of deathspell omega's metaphysical ramblings. deep thoughts of this sort are par for the genre.

if the music doesn't appeal, then that's that. if it does, then all this other crap becomes secondary.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:31 (eight years ago) link

You don' think Eye Contact has any chance to win this?

― monster_xero

Yeah I think that stands a good chance. Pretty sure the top 3 will be PJ Harvey, Beyonce and them. Wouldn't be surprised if the DJ Quik places in top 5 too.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Meh Kerr I think #3 and esp #4 albums in the metal poll have huge crossover appeal and should do well ~many xps later~

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:33 (eight years ago) link

(Finally! This thread is hard to post on!)

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:34 (eight years ago) link

some of these predictions seem pretty out there to me unless i missed some huge chunks of discussion on here earlier in the year (quite probable)

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:34 (eight years ago) link

eye contact stands no chance of winning this poll

jabba hands, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:35 (eight years ago) link

femme fatale

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:35 (eight years ago) link

I'm not too into the album results this year partly because I already know which two of the albums I voted for will place, and I'm 99% sure the rest will not (especially if none of them placed on the first day). And I did a lot of skimming of the albums nominations, enough that I don't expect to make any discoveries from the poll results.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:36 (eight years ago) link

On the other hand, I am anxiously waiting for today's results to actually be posted, because it's still some sort of entertainment while I'm waking up.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:37 (eight years ago) link

I still wouldn't be surprised if Katy B won. top 5 for certain.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:38 (eight years ago) link

lol no way is Femme Fatale winning, it will be lucky to be top 10

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:39 (eight years ago) link

If PJ wins it would be the first ever 'rock' winner of an ILM EOY poll.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:39 (eight years ago) link

everyone's a winner

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:40 (eight years ago) link

pretty sure rock stuff has won albums polls before, its the tracks poll it hasn't

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:41 (eight years ago) link

i know femme fatale won't win :) just throwing support
in a dream world it would be britney at #3 behind saade volume 1 and saade volume 2

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:41 (eight years ago) link

PJ Harvey won't win I don't think, but maybe we should save this discussion for Thursday.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:42 (eight years ago) link

pretty sure rock stuff has won albums polls before, its the tracks poll it hasn't

― ciderpress,

I cant think of one. And people have been saying for years that a rock album hasn't won. We need a thread with all the EOY results on it.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:43 (eight years ago) link

there was a poll thread of all the EOY results, i can't find it now though

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:44 (eight years ago) link

I think PJ is likely to win on points - got a feeling it's the kind of album people either love or quite like, so it's likely to get a high amount of votes in some capacity rather than a few rabid fans.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:44 (eight years ago) link

I was excited about Barbara Panther at first. Great name, interesting story. Her affected Bjork-isms wore me down by track 5 though. Best in small doses. When Saints Go Machine is cool. Bits remind me of Antony, Wild Beasts, Long Fin Killie.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:46 (eight years ago) link

most of US ILX didn't seem to care about PJH though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:46 (eight years ago) link

Only thing that might stop PJ is will enough americans have heard it/liked it enough but it's ILM so it shouldn't really be a problem.
I can see Beyonce beating it though.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:47 (eight years ago) link

The ILX List of Lists

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:47 (eight years ago) link

hah xp with lex

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:47 (eight years ago) link

nice one nathey. thanks!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:48 (eight years ago) link

the last PJ Harvey record I liked came out in 1993.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:48 (eight years ago) link

I had no idea PJH wasn't popular in the States. Before LES I'd frequently forget she was English - always stored her in the American/Alternative category in my mind.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:49 (eight years ago) link

2003 appears to be geirs top albums not ilm's. LOL

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:50 (eight years ago) link

PJH has made a lot of good music since 1993, although Rid of Me is probably always going to be my favorite.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:51 (eight years ago) link

first one today

http://i.imgur.com/1b84y.jpg

60. James Ferraro — Far Side Virtual (295 points, 11 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 316

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:52 (eight years ago) link

okay 2002 winner is massively lol

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:53 (eight years ago) link

I have no idea who James Ferraro is but points off for putting a fucking iPad on the album cover

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:53 (eight years ago) link

This was #1 in the Wire's EOY under "controversial" circumstances

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

Still haven't heard the Ferraro. The Wire's number one album of 2011 btw.

ha xp

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

you should hear the music. lol @ people voting for this.

xp to dan

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

It's ok but not an album I want to hear a second time.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:54 (eight years ago) link

... okay seriously?

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:55 (eight years ago) link

2003 appears to be geirs top albums not ilm's. LOL

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker

I love this write up he did for his number ten.

Virtually every genre has sort of the crossover album that mixes the genre with elements from lots of other genre in a really ambitious concept album, and creates a classic. "Speakerbox/The Love Below" is basically to hip-hop was "London Calling" was to punk, "Mellon Collie" was to grunge, "Leftism" was to electronica and "Physical Grafitti" was to heavy rock. A truly ambitious album that is sooo much more than just a hip-hop album. Which is probably why it is the first ever hip-hop album to appear in my year-end Top 10 ;)

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:55 (eight years ago) link

still haven't heard ferraro. Is it like James Blake?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:56 (eight years ago) link

I mean, if you're going to go for pastichey throwback music, at least go for the epic Hughesian sweep of M83; no one needed a dude to pastiche the incidental music from "Mannequin"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:56 (eight years ago) link

2002 - THE STREETS - Original Pirate Material
2003 - no poll
2004 - Kanye West College Dropout
2005 - MIA - Arular
2006 - Knife - Silent Shout
2007 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver
2008 - Portishead - Third
2009 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray
2010 - BIG BOI — Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:57 (eight years ago) link

damn i didn't beat the rollout. sorry j0rdan

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:57 (eight years ago) link

I predict that Ferraro cover will comfortably out-ugly everything else that will be posted on this list.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:57 (eight years ago) link

It's an electronic album that sounds like it was made almost entirely from preloaded Microsoft Windows 98 sound effects. Fair play to him for trying it, but good god it's a terrible concept.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (eight years ago) link

2007 and 2008 count as rock, I'd say?

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (eight years ago) link

the whole thing is a joke about shitty sounds and a 'commentary on our disposable digital culture' or something, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7u-xHPNIco

xp

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (eight years ago) link

i guess if you don't consider Sound of Silver a rock record..

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:59 (eight years ago) link

Wow, really surprised how much I like all the previous winners.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:59 (eight years ago) link

it's 7 amazing albums and The Streets

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:59 (eight years ago) link

i dont

xps

i only like the portishead out of the winners

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:00 (eight years ago) link

none of those albums I'd classify as rock tbh

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:00 (eight years ago) link

Hmm. Anyway, is anyone here to defend the Ferraro album?

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:01 (eight years ago) link

I just listened to that youtube. So, no.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:01 (eight years ago) link

please post another album so I can stop listening to this fucking horrible James Ferraro album, which comes across like the Lambda Lambda Lambda band from Revenge of the Nerds releasing a sellout album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:02 (eight years ago) link

hadn't heard of 'No Poll'
checkin it on youtube.... it's awful :(

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:03 (eight years ago) link

It's an electronic album that sounds like it was made almost entirely from preloaded Microsoft Windows 98 sound effects. Fair play to him for trying it, but good god it's a terrible concept.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh I've made this album. Veronica Falls, the Fratellis and now this. Shit, so ahead of the curve in dog latin towers..

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:03 (eight years ago) link

That Ferraro album sounds cool in theory, but it's pretty boring, IMO.

jaymc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:03 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/mKZ37.jpg

59. Perfume — JPN (298 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 461

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:04 (eight years ago) link

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

My first vote to place...

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:04 (eight years ago) link

argh

post something I can play in Spotify

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:04 (eight years ago) link

yay perfume!

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

is this J-Pop?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

that james ferraro track is nowhere near as bad as i thought it'd be - well, i kinda like the piano. but the beat is woefully thin and most of the sounds bring to mind that episode of friends with ross's toy keyboard

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

That James Ferraro totally sounds like KPM library music, Richard Myhill in particular.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

Perfume sounds like a twee-90s indie band.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (eight years ago) link

i voted perfume

Mordy, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:06 (eight years ago) link

xp This is J-Pop btw. My favourite tracks:

Spice: http://youtu.be/1R-fu2jHvrw
natural ni koishite: http://youtu.be/1R-fu2jHvrw

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:06 (eight years ago) link

i think triangle was a better album than JPN, both very good x

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:06 (eight years ago) link

That Ferraro album sounds cool in theory, but it's pretty boring, IMO.

otm
i listened to it 2 times and really have never had the urge to listen to it again, which is strange since 'internet/digital trash' is one of my favorite aesthetics as of late

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (eight years ago) link

okay even this super-cloying saccharine overdose that is the Perfume album condensed to snippets over 2 minutes is a million times more enjoyable than that James Ferraro album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (eight years ago) link

more outloud stuff

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (eight years ago) link

that Ferraro really is awful. it sounds like a demo album, and a weak one at that.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (eight years ago) link

I thought Ferraro would be somewhere between the retro digital sounds of Ford and Lopatin and the academic avant-pop of William Brittelle, but it wasn't as fun as either.

jaymc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (eight years ago) link

I didn't vote for Ferraro but enjoyed it the couple of times I played it. I found some beautiful moments in amongst the kitchiness of it, baffles me why it evokes such negative feelings. Must be a linux thing.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:08 (eight years ago) link

The highs on JPN are higher imo, not sure which I prefer overall though.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:08 (eight years ago) link

The Outloud room has been brilliant for discovering stuff this year. That is all.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Perfume sounds like a twee-90s indie band.

There was a mid90s band from Leicester called Perfume, more like a romantic-Bunnymen than twee. I very much doubt their album has ever placed in any list of albums ever.

Les Tressle (useless chamber), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:09 (eight years ago) link

I'm going to take some credit for forcefeeding this to unsuspecting Outlouders.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:09 (eight years ago) link

http://youtu.be/yL4aYES4WTQ

lol just stumbled across this

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:10 (eight years ago) link

can anyone who voted for that james ferraro album explain why they love it so much?

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:10 (eight years ago) link

listening to wolves in the throne room....first song

this sounds like Dead Can Dance so far

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:10 (eight years ago) link

YES! Wasn't sure Perfume would place but it did get its own thread on Sandbox with lots of new fans so I was hopeful.

Nakata (producer) is on a scary roll here, every moment filled with melody and crackling sounds you just want to eat up.

Great videos as well
Nee: http://youtu.be/W63nzvIoFJU
VOICE: http://youtu.be/18grnTXq7mc

abcfsk, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:10 (eight years ago) link

I didn't vote for Ferraro but enjoyed it the couple of times I played it. I found some beautiful moments in amongst the kitchiness of it, baffles me why it evokes such negative feelings.

please post links to beautiful moments, cuz all i've got are negative feelings

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:11 (eight years ago) link

I don't think i voted for Perfume in the end. It's a solid 7/10 album with some very lovely moments but it just seems like a bit of a throwback to a 90s J-Pop sound that's a little dated for me.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:12 (eight years ago) link

QUIT SCREECHING AT ME MONSTER MAN! YOU ARE A MEANIE!

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:12 (eight years ago) link

(that was to wolves in the throne room, not sharivari)

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:12 (eight years ago) link

Perfume sounds more like the future than a throwback, to me.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:13 (eight years ago) link

metal is more just Angry Goth nowadaze huh?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:14 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/bFCqs.jpg

58. Grouper — Alien Observer/Dream Loss (304 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: DNP

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:14 (eight years ago) link

didn't vote for it, but I thought the James Ferraro album was interesting. It was much more varied and enjoyable to listen to than one track would suggest, and it doesn't really sound like anything I have ever heard before

Dan S, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:14 (eight years ago) link

that james ferraro album felt kind of thin and cheap to me

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:14 (eight years ago) link

did not know there was a grouper record this year

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:15 (eight years ago) link

oh i didn't know there was a new grouper album. had a lot of time for that "dragging a bloodied stag up an icy hill" record or whatever it's called.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

Haven't heard this, great cover though.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

sold these records for 50 bux a pop back when everyone was like OMG LTD PRESSING

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:16 (eight years ago) link

don't get perfume, either. sounds utterly generic, but it's not really my genre, so what do i know. ILX taste is increasingly mysterious to me.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:17 (eight years ago) link

i totally didn't realise grouper had a new album out, i would've probably listened to it. i only have one of hers (i think because it placed in an ilm poll!) - i can't say i'm captivated by it or anything, and it pretty much all sounds the same, but it's really nice music for a certain kind of mood. is this more of the same? i imagine she's an artist who specialises in more-of-the-same (in a good way)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:17 (eight years ago) link

definitely more of the same

Dan S, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:18 (eight years ago) link

More of the same, but really beautiful.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:19 (eight years ago) link

wow completely forgot that big boi album won last year, such a very sadly ILX choice

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:20 (eight years ago) link

First listen, but something about the busy metropolitan feel of the Ferraro record reminds me a bit of Different Trains. Maybe it's placement of the voices too. I quite like it I think, but I can quite understand the hate too.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:21 (eight years ago) link

I don't think Perfume's appeal is one that strikes immediately - on first listen it's just a cute electropop group, on 10th listen it's still a cute electropop group but whoa I've just listened to this 10 times in a row what's going on? It's obviously in-genre but the production in particular has a staying power that others can probably deconstruct better than I.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:22 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/FJ6YW.jpg

57. The War on Drugs — Slave Ambient (322 points, nine votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 39
P&J: 49

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:23 (eight years ago) link

had trouble getting excited about this when the Kurt Vile album sounded so similar (and was much better).

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:23 (eight years ago) link

wow completely forgot that big boi album won last year, such a very sadly ILX choice

lol, yeah...Big Boi didn't scrape the top of every other music poll on the whole internet. Just ILX.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:23 (eight years ago) link

Don't think I know who this is.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:24 (eight years ago) link

too low!!!

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:24 (eight years ago) link

Listened to those Grouper albums A LOT this year, but I think she overstretched herself a bit. Nice, but not essential.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:24 (eight years ago) link

the album cover alone should give it a spot in the top 20

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:25 (eight years ago) link

Sadly this record starts great and goes downhill from there.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:25 (eight years ago) link

what is the war on drugs

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:25 (eight years ago) link

I have that Kurt Vile album, the only thing I do have by him, and other than Society Is My Friend, I don't think I understand the appeal. He ranked pretty high on Pazz & Jop, but it's a fairly standard rock LP from what I can hear.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Cool to see Perfume and The War On Drugs make it. Good job people!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:26 (eight years ago) link

i am beginning to think that a lot of my more obscure votes (angel haze, nikkiya, sunny sweeney) won't make it :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:26 (eight years ago) link

american folk rock meets shoegaze/kosmiche xxp lex

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link

Philly band doing a modern take on Tom Petty, kinda. I voted for it, but only on the strength of about half the songs if I'm being honest. xps to lex

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link

War On Drugs >>>>> Kurt Vile, it's all the droney spacey stuff that pushed the War On Drugs above it for me. Had expected that album to be higher actually, it was top 10 for me.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

Oh man, love love love The War On Drugs record. I was actually disappointed in the Kurt Vile album this year because it was too acoustic meandering for me. It was good, but not what I'd hoped. I found more of what I was looking for with War On Drugs.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

i second the TOO LOW.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

Also, Matt DC otm.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (eight years ago) link

Okay War on Drugs, listening to the track 'Black Water Falls' on utube. Like it a lot.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:29 (eight years ago) link

Sounds Dylan-y to me.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:29 (eight years ago) link

tried to listen to war on drugs, seemed like something i might like but was pretty bored by it

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:30 (eight years ago) link

that james ferraro album felt kind of thin and cheap to me

this is the whole point iirc

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Thought I'd like the War On Drugs based on the reviews I saw, but it was a bit meat-and-potatoes and could have done with rocking-the-fuck-out a bit more. Should have learnt my lesson from buying Wilco records when I was told they'd gone "weird".

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:34 (eight years ago) link

now i'm beginning to think that had i nominated some albums (lapalux, jonwayne, ELOS, balam acab, shlohmo), they might have actually had a shot.

i'm assuming rustie was nominated?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (eight years ago) link

Yes, Rustie was.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (eight years ago) link

Yes, my prediction #23.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:36 (eight years ago) link

This thread has officially declared war onme. BRING IT ON!

Srsly WoD reminded me of weaksauce Verve; what are the cool droney/spacey tracks?

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (eight years ago) link

hurrah for Grouper

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (eight years ago) link

this is the essential war on drugs song imo hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMToQg0vSds

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:38 (eight years ago) link

Srsly WoD reminded me of weaksauce Verve; what are the cool droney/spacey tracks?

most of the droney spacey stuff happens in between the tracks, 'the animator' is a good transition track, but really works best in the context of the album flow

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (eight years ago) link

every WoD track reminds me of another band (and i don't mean that as a knock against them). that one is their Arcade Fire track.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (eight years ago) link

(i meant the youtube link)

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Ooh, whee, I missed this kicking off again. Voted for Ferraro and Perfume. Totally don't get the Ferraro hate - it's an interesting bit of textural electronica with good noises. Was completely o_O when it won the Wire poll, mind you. It's good, but it's not that good.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/3u1tq.jpg

55. Mastodon — [/i]The Hunter[/i] (328 points, 10 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 47

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:42 (eight years ago) link

also war on drugs was probably my favorite live band to see this year (2x!! shoudlve seen them that third time)
seeing 1/3 of the crowd leave during the amazing 10 minute harmonica/feedback/sax drone jam was pretty funny

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:43 (eight years ago) link

Mastodon drums are huge, guitars are thin.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (eight years ago) link

Nice to see the Mastodon place! Such a great album and a really wise move for them to slide away from the epic prog thing for awhile.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (eight years ago) link

(thx dd85 btw)

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (eight years ago) link

far side virtual is a v gaudy outlier, an extreme mutation of certain threads in modern music mb, & of ferraro's archaeology of information age detritus. occupies a ridiculous position in the musical landscape of 2011, which makes it fun to back in the name of tastelessness & irony (rock out w/ "celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay"). i really love listening to it tho; despite employing all these trashy cheap sounds it's a p massive record & insanely rich considering how well it sticks together. it's not chip tunes; this stuff unfolds in a p epic even glorious fashion in this uncanny environment which is less familiar than it pretends to be. ive never known a record evoke so many peculiar & barely remembered things - everyone comes up w/ different references ive never heard of, which is significant - but those similarities are a pose & it doesn't actually function like Microsoft Musical Instruments demo songs, but instead pulls this weird set of things together in a way that seems so intuitive it feels like it was always grouped that way, but really this is some super sly taxonomy&world-building, built around garish, often v slight sounds. it has a clownish, circuslike quality to it & is wicked psychedelic imo

ogmor, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:45 (eight years ago) link

I thought Mastodon might place. Good album, I realised many years ago they weren't going to make another Remission. They for me fill the heavy rock void left by Qotsa while Josh took a break.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:48 (eight years ago) link

the war on drugs are really, really awesome. very unique sound... i generally prefer stuff that is more song oriented but that album is just really cool.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:49 (eight years ago) link

Nice write-up Ogmor! I agree with you on the psychedelic aspect of it. For all the cheap and nasty sounds, they're layered in a curious and sometimes surprisingly lush and lovely way.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:51 (eight years ago) link

I had a harder time connecting with the new Mastodon than with their previous albums. Definitely agree that the guitars were too thin or maybe just too low in the mix.

Still voted for it though...

Moodles, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:51 (eight years ago) link

Do metalheads have a word for people who don't listen to any metal except Mastodon? If so, I'm one of those people - my Soundgarden/QOTSA loving younger self would have approved.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (eight years ago) link

i think i liked the idea of the mastodon album (return to shorter, unconnected songs) than the concept - maybe it was too long? there's some good stuff on there though.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (eight years ago) link

First listen, but something about the busy metropolitan feel of the Ferraro record reminds me a bit of Different Trains. Maybe it's placement of the voices too. I quite like it I think, but I can quite understand the hate too.

― Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:21 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, but different trains is not interesting in the long run because it has a "busy metropolitan feel" (something you could say about thousands of albums/pieces of music). it's interesting because it's complex, rigorous, challenging, distinctive and hypnotically beautiful - in the minds of many listeners. don't see any equivalent value in the ferraro album.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:53 (eight years ago) link

the band i discovered on the metal poll that sounded like QOTSA (at least to me) were Red Fang. Loved that record.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:54 (eight years ago) link

On previous albums, it seemed like every song was one awesome riff after another. This one didn't quite do that for me.

Moodles, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (eight years ago) link

whoops, i skipped 56 like an idiot, sorry

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/NBOaz.jpg

56. Danny Brown — XXX (323 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 19
P&J: 28

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (eight years ago) link

can anyone who voted for that james ferraro album explain why they love it so much?

― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012

I voted for Ferraro. Why? Its cheery without being twee and has a bright sound. I certainly prefer it to the Ford & Lapotin or oneohtrix whatever records. I'd call it bright rather than thin

Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (eight years ago) link

keep meaning to listen to the danny brown album because i like his huzzah verse a lot, keep forgetting to actually listen

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (eight years ago) link

ogmor's defense of FSV is at least interesting and substantive. in my view it's an overelaborate description of clothes that aren't there, but i can at least understand that other people get something out of the experience.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (eight years ago) link

Danny Brown. Cool. Must admit I find I have to listen to that pretty selectively ie I won't play it more than once through in a row which is something I tend to do with albums I like. It's pretty wearing. Good though.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (eight years ago) link

What is Danny Brown? Feel like I'm typing that a lot today.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (eight years ago) link

rap

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (eight years ago) link

so mastodon is actually ahead of danny brown?

my tastes in hip-hop in 2011 were just...not what got hype at all. almost every time i listened to a hyped hip-hop mixtape or album i was disappointed, apart from meek mill. but then i totally fell for albums/mixtapes by cousin fik, angel haze, young bleed which literally zero other people cared about.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (eight years ago) link

could have done with rocking-the-fuck-out a bit more

Yeah, I had that feeling for many years after stuff like Jesus Lizard, Bitch Magnet, Rodan, etc. faded away from indie. Then I realized all I needed to do was listen to actual rock music.

The Mastodon album is actually longer than the epic prog odyssey of Crack The Skye, but it doesn't seem like it. I actually like Crack the Skye more, but The Hunter accomplishes exactly what it set out to do.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (eight years ago) link

danny brown's been growing on me

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:00 (eight years ago) link

i can't even remember why i didn't like danny brown. i didn't think it was that bad, it's just that neither his voice nor his words resonated with me and the beats weren't fun.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:00 (eight years ago) link

seandalai - re d brown here is the unrepresentative metronomy sampling closer
http://youtu.be/UmqU0dqZzAQ

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:01 (eight years ago) link

Danny Brown is not meant to be fun I don't think.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:02 (eight years ago) link

young bleed is awesome lex, I voted for it and would hope that it would place.
xp

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:02 (eight years ago) link

His delivery is a little un-nerving and weird, but he has loads of skill and he uses production that fits his tendencies.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:03 (eight years ago) link

also voted for Young Bleed. In with a chance

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:03 (eight years ago) link

Voted Holla At Uh Dog in the songs poll, should have placed.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:03 (eight years ago) link

danny brown is really fun

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:04 (eight years ago) link

young bleed is awesome lex, I voted for it and would hope that it would place.

i really wish the goon crew had gathered round "holla at uh dog" more re: the tracks poll, i think it could've blown a lot of non-goons' minds

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:04 (eight years ago) link

thanks pandemic - I feel I like the idea of the track but I'm not taken by DB himself.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:05 (eight years ago) link

yay war on drugs
boo mastodon

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:05 (eight years ago) link

Here is a fun Danny Brown song from last year that wasn't on the album
http://youtu.be/9UFtpSebfdg

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:05 (eight years ago) link

i forgot the big boi album won this last year. i'm sure i was mad about that but can't remember now.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:06 (eight years ago) link

i was undecided btw 'holla at uh dog' and 'stamp on it' so ended up going for the album. My fault!
xp

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:07 (eight years ago) link

Nasty Danny Brown anyone?

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:07 (eight years ago) link

The Dylan/Petty type vocals are interesting in War On Drugs. I passed on their live show though, as I feared it would be boring. Anyone seen them live?

Stop listening to Mastodon on twee Smurfwick computer speakers and the guitars sound just fine ;)

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:08 (eight years ago) link

i'm like so over 2011 now btw, can we just like live in the present i mean.

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:08 (eight years ago) link

Voted for Ferraro and Perfume. Totally don't get the Ferraro hate - it's an interesting bit of textural electronica with good noises. Was completely o_O when it won the Wire poll, mind you. It's good, but it's not that good.

― emil.y, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:40 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I voted for Ferraro. Why? Its cheery without being twee and has a bright sound. I certainly prefer it to the Ford & Lapotin or oneohtrix whatever records. I'd call it bright rather than thin

― Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:56 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

these seem like such indifferent defenses. i get that it's texturally interesting, bright and cheery. i get that it's kind of psychedelic and provides some stimulating irony/not-irony dissonance. i get the sly, andy warhol blankness. but i just don't get how that kind of low stakes conceptual gamesmanship makes it one of the best albums of the year to more than a couple people. its rewards seem so ordinary and its risks so minimal. then again, i don't get perfume, either, so...

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:09 (eight years ago) link

i'm sure there are some threads round here you can do that in, why not have a look elsewhere?

xp

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I'm pretty sure that I was the one who voted it #1 (can't recall for sure). It's the only album I keep going back to this year. It's funny, raw, and messed up. His voice has great personality and the beats are great (I know that's contentious).

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:11 (eight years ago) link

but then i totally fell for albums/mixtapes by cousin fik, angel haze, young bleed which literally zero other people cared about.

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:59 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

angel haze was p high on my ballot

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Prefer the muscle of the Mastodon album to the shenanigans of other two metal records so far. Is there more to come?

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:11 (eight years ago) link

"danny brown is really fun"

Yeah its just that his albums are hard to get through, which doesn't really scream "fun" to me. Its his production choices that give his work an oppressive edge. He is a fun rapper though yes.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Stop listening to Mastodon on twee Smurfwick computer speakers and the guitars sound just fine ;)

― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

YOU DONT KNOW MY SETUP, SON

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:12 (eight years ago) link

alright, so danny brown was 56, mastodon was 55, now moving on to 54...

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:13 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ZDGw0.jpg

54. Kendrick Lamar — [/i]Section.80[/i] (337 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 45
P&J: 44

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:13 (eight years ago) link

ah i was bound to fuck up the formatting at some point

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:14 (eight years ago) link

back to danny brown... it's not fun, and it's a hard album to listen to i think, the production is pretty brutal in places, but the dude flat out raps his ass off, and his voice is up there w/ boosie's imo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:14 (eight years ago) link

I love Angel Haze, but her mixtapes haven't consistant for me. Her rapping over 6 foot 7 and Did it on em are crazy, and there's a bunch of great tracks on them but there's a bunch of throw away songs too. Just outside my ballot.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:14 (eight years ago) link

YOU DONT KNOW MY SETUP, SON

Hopefully better than this:
http://www.fastnbulbous.com/smurfwicks.jpg

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:15 (eight years ago) link

yay Mastodon

YAY KENDRICK LAMAR (TOO LOW)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:16 (eight years ago) link

i liked kendrick lamar's album better than danny brown but it still wasn't anywhere near my ballot - who voted for these two? [instead of etc etc]

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:16 (eight years ago) link

thought that was a decent showing for kendrick but we're actually behind pfork and p&j

kendrick was in my top 10

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:17 (eight years ago) link

I voted Danny Brown and Kendrick, two of the best young talents rapping wise and both have very distinct voices. They both choose production that works very well for what they do.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:18 (eight years ago) link

Voted for Danny Brown but chose Schoolboy Q over Kendrick

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:18 (eight years ago) link

Kendrick was my 3 and Danny 6

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:18 (eight years ago) link

did not like that Kendrick album at all tbh, holding out hope that the Schoolboy Q album is actually better

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:18 (eight years ago) link

kendrick is cool... philosophizing that's not embarrassing

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (eight years ago) link

can't take some of the vocalists on Section.80 (that dude at the start of Ronald Reagan Era, gawd...)

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (eight years ago) link

I voted Kendrick AND Schoolboy Q

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (eight years ago) link

grouper was my #1! glad to see it show up.

omar little, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (eight years ago) link

Dig Kendrick just fine. Does this mean Setbacks has a chance of showing up? Wait Setbacks was 2011 right? Love that record.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (eight years ago) link

oh i liked the schoolboy q album a lot - if i'd heard it earlier that might well have made my ballot

idk i was just more excited about other hip-hop than the ones that got hype i guess.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:20 (eight years ago) link

these seem like such indifferent defenses. i get that it's texturally interesting, bright and cheery. i get that it's kind of psychedelic and provides some stimulating irony/not-irony dissonance. i get the sly, andy warhol blankness. but i just don't get how that kind of low stakes conceptual gamesmanship makes it one of the best albums of the year to more than a couple people. its rewards seem so ordinary

You are right, they are kind of indifferent defences! I only voted for 4 albums so it didn't take a lot to get in there. I like it just fine as it is, and don't have a problem with it's slightness (also I like library records)

Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:21 (eight years ago) link

Setbacks was always going to beat Section.80 IMO

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:21 (eight years ago) link

lex what cousin fik mixtape are you referring to upthread

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah its just that his albums are hard to get through, which doesn't really scream "fun" to me. Its his production choices that give his work an oppressive edge. He is a fun rapper though yes.

― Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:11 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

back to danny brown... it's not fun, and it's a hard album to listen to i think, the production is pretty brutal in places, but the dude flat out raps his ass off, and his voice is up there w/ boosie's imo

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:14 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^5

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:22 (eight years ago) link

Cousin Fik was a "fun" listen for sure.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:22 (eight years ago) link

hacksaw ben thuggin

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:22 (eight years ago) link

Cousin Fik -Hacksaw Been Thuggin! It's fun

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:23 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/CItqF.jpg

53. Laura Marling — A Creature I Don’t Know (342 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 89

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:24 (eight years ago) link

the laura marling single floored me but idk, i can't listen to her voice over the course of an entire album, unfortunately

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:24 (eight years ago) link

eh, this is not my thing

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:24 (eight years ago) link

it might cause you to walk around singing 'i am a vampire' to yourself mind you, or that may just be me
xxxp

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:25 (eight years ago) link

I AM A VAMPIRE I AM A VAMPIRE I AM A VAMPIIIRIIEIRIER

I LOST MY FANGS

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:25 (eight years ago) link

Loved Droop-E's "scary" voice

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:25 (eight years ago) link

I mean we already have KT Tunstall, do we really need this too

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:26 (eight years ago) link

Voted for "The Beast" in tracks, didn't feel the rest of the album lived up to the promise.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:26 (eight years ago) link

I liked the Laura Marling a lot for a couple of weeks, but seem to have forgotten about it since.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:26 (eight years ago) link

I mean we already have KT Tunstall, do we really need this too

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:26 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not fair!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link

okay lol that Cousin Fik song is basically a hip-hop version of "The Days Of Swine And Roses"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link

I like the Kendrick album enough, but it bores me pretty quick. I can't remember if it made my ballot. I'm pretty sure the schoolboy q album should be higher on my list.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link

I mean we already have KT Tunstall, do we really need this too

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP),

we really dont need KT Tunstall

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link

marling! my first vote

"the beast" might be the most incredible song she's written - the intensity of how it builds, the power she has at her disposal http://youtu.be/rtCKteAm6jw

"the muse" was another favourite - really illustrates how she's pushing herself forward musically too http://youtu.be/87YKNZyAy50

didn't think the single was actually a standout, and overall i don't think the album was as strong as her last one, but its highs were certainly worth it

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, not fair. xps

That said, she may have already peaked with her second album. This is more like the first one, which is boring.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:28 (eight years ago) link

btw did the goons agree on anything this year? it seems not going by this thread.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:28 (eight years ago) link

i love laura marling's lyrics - throughout the album there's this incredible tension re: who in the narrative holds the power - this section from "the muse" really encapsulates it

you know what I need
why won't you give it me
must I fall down at your feet
and plead
don't you be scared of me
I'm nothing but the beast
and I'll call on you when I need
to feast

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:29 (eight years ago) link

Anyone who has written Marling off as Mumford-aligned landfill folk should definitely check out "The Beast".

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:30 (eight years ago) link

back to cousin fik for a sec - "i am a vampire" is the best thing is it not! dropped on halloween iirc too. as i'm fairly sure it won't place, some other highlights

water in the bo
follow you (colombiana mix)
ghost of hyphy
ruthless

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:31 (eight years ago) link

sounds like a Nightwish lyric
xp

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:31 (eight years ago) link

the laura marling single floored me but idk, i can't listen to her voice over the course of an entire album, unfortunately

what is it about her voice you don't like? it doesn't strike me as a particularly grating voice...she's a very understated vocal presence

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:32 (eight years ago) link

There's a few we agree on, I'm sure they will place here soon. xxxxxxps

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:32 (eight years ago) link

If Laura Boring places and not King Creosote, I may have to reconsider our relationship, ilm

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:33 (eight years ago) link

so does anyone wanna explain why it's unfair to compare Laura Marling to KT Tunstall or we have we moved on to the "sulk and hate on DJP" portion of the thread

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:33 (eight years ago) link

That said, she may have already peaked with her second album. This is more like the first one, which is boring.

hmm i don't think so - well firstly i don't think the debut is boring, but "quality of whole album" and "progression as an artist" are different things, and i think a creature i don't know shows enough of the latter to keep me interested in what she does next without necessarily beating its predecessor in terms of the former

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:34 (eight years ago) link

I've never heard KT Tunstall approach anything even remotely resembling nuance. She's very IN YO FACE all the time. Laura Marling is a lot more varied in her approach to recording/writing.

Unless you were just making a general comment about female singers who play guitar, which I'd like to think you weren't.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:35 (eight years ago) link

laura marling is much more interesting and cathartic a lyricist than kt tunstall, and much less polite a performer

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:36 (eight years ago) link

kt is straight-up adult contemporary and marling is a pretty expansive talent who makes darker, more compelling music?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:36 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/blwLa.jpg

52. Aerosmith The Mountain Goats — All Eternals Deck (342 points, 12 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 65

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J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:36 (eight years ago) link

as well as those cuts off this marling album, i recommend "alpha shallows" and "what he wrote" off the last one

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:37 (eight years ago) link

i've always got time for a mountain goats record

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:37 (eight years ago) link

good mtn goats alb, they've had a nice run going after i lost interest for a bit

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:37 (eight years ago) link

shit, i think i meant to vote for this one but forgot. i'll have to check my ballot when i get home.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:37 (eight years ago) link

sourdoire valley song really kicked my ass

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:38 (eight years ago) link

kendrick was in my top 20 somewhere i think but i can't recall if marling was on it. would've voted "the beast" in tracks poll if i'd voted there, for sure

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:40 (eight years ago) link

Love the mountain goats but still haven't picked this up. Assume it's quality.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:41 (eight years ago) link

It's quality. I liked the last one a bit more, but this is a really good album.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:42 (eight years ago) link

Hahahaha. Think I voted for the MG album before this, but didn't even hear this one. Perfectly willing to believe it's good, though.

Also, those Laura Marling lyrics are terrible.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:43 (eight years ago) link

Laura Marling's voice is more open and her resonance is slightly deeper, but there are strong similarities between the two of them.

KT Tunstall follows the "start soft/tenderish and build in intensity" pattern on her big songs and Laura Marling doesn't seem to ever growl.

"Black Horse and Cherry Tree" did not sound wholly out of place played amidst the tracks on this album; the biggest difference was in production glossiness, with thickness of arrangement coming in second.

laura marling is much more interesting and cathartic a lyricist than kt tunstall, and much less polite a performer

The second half of this is completely wrong based on this album? This is the epitome of polite singing/performing!

kt is straight-up adult contemporary and marling is a pretty expansive talent who makes darker, more compelling music?

It would be more accurate to say KT Tunstall would get played on commercial adult-contemporary and Laura Marling would get played on NPR; the first three tracks on this album have sparse Jewel-with-strings arrangements that might knock them off the playlist but there's nothing going on in performance or lyrics that makes it as unmarketable/unknowable-to-the-masses as you are claiming.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:43 (eight years ago) link

btw I am totally abstaining from talking about the Mountain Goats album aside from saying "Age Of Kings" is fucking badass, love those strings to death

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:44 (eight years ago) link

i didn't say anything about marling's marketability

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:44 (eight years ago) link

What I'm saying is Laura Marling is also straight-up adult contemporary, it's just that you like her!

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:45 (eight years ago) link

I don't know about "High Hawk Season". There's some dude trying to class it up in the background.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:46 (eight years ago) link

back up yall

Perfume on the list! hell yeah JPN was my #1.

I love Nakata's production but what really gets me about that record are the vocals. On this record more than the previous 3, the girls voices are less manipulated overall (besides the Nakata freakouts in Nee and Glitter) and allowed more individuality.

After listening to it so much I've gotten better at distinguishing their voices. The harmonies are so rich here, especially on Spice where the 2 part harmonies segue into 3 and back to 1 again. I love that shit.

Plus Perfume are the most attractive group on this list by far.

Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:46 (eight years ago) link

well, not "some dude", but you know.

xpost

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:47 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/1PkG5.jpg

51. Demdike Stare — Tryptych (347 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 74

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:47 (eight years ago) link

I like that Demdike Stare, glad to see it make it even though it didn't fit on my ballot.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:50 (eight years ago) link

not heard it but liked the one in last years poll

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:50 (eight years ago) link

I keep meaning to get stuff by these guys

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:50 (eight years ago) link

Kind of meh about Laura Marling, this is the kind of thing I should lap up but leaves me cold. I'd much rather one of the two June Tabor albums which was nominated came up.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:51 (eight years ago) link

I like that Demdike Stare, glad to see it make it even though it didn't fit on my ballot.

― Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:50 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ This. Great band.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:52 (eight years ago) link

Glad this placed, I managed to fit it in at the bottom of my ballot. They're great at atmospheric horror-movie vibes and they manage to keep those vibes fresh over three CDs and I think that's a ballot-worthy achievement.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:55 (eight years ago) link

they have a good name - it rolls off the tongue. found this out from their bio:


Demdike (aka Elizabeth Southern) was the ringleader of the Pendle Witches. Accused of three murders, she died in prison in 1622 before coming to trial.

▲▲▲▲††††††▲▲▲▲

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:55 (eight years ago) link

RIP

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:56 (eight years ago) link

Isn't Tryptych just a rerelease of their last three albums? I only really got into one of their tracks - Haxan Dub, which is amazing.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:56 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ljupi.jpg

50. Hatchback — Zeus and Apollo (350 points, nine votes, two first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: DNP

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J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:57 (eight years ago) link

that was a great album

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:57 (eight years ago) link

like that was actually a great album

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (eight years ago) link

xp Tryptych contains the three LPs from 2010 but also adds a lot of new material.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (eight years ago) link

i love laura marling and am glad to see her place and disappointed to see djp hating. not as good as the second or first album, imo, but still a strong release -- i think she's really benefited from incorporating more Americana + southern gothic type influences into her music

Mordy, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (eight years ago) link

Hatchback album is very good but I didn't vote for it.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (eight years ago) link

i didn't vote in this because i could probably think of like six albums that i really even listened to properly last year but this was maybe my number one

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:59 (eight years ago) link

well you could have just voted for Hatchback then...

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:59 (eight years ago) link

Hatchback is the new mondeo pop?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:59 (eight years ago) link

Yeay! at Ferraro, Grouper, Demdike. Although 'Alien Observer' stands out of the two Grouper 'A I A' albums. I love Ferraro, his conceptual goofballiness, how damn distinctive he is no matter what pallette he's operating with. I kind of fell out of love with Oneonhtrix/Lopatin this year and fell more for JF.

XP

Hatchback = nice

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:01 (eight years ago) link

I didn't consider voting Demdike bcs of the reissue element. Gah.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:01 (eight years ago) link

I am not familiar with Hatchback.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:02 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/bkiPl.jpg

49. Moon Duo — Mazes (350 points, 12 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 419

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:03 (eight years ago) link

Happy to see Moon Duo! It was a late cut from my ballot, so thanks people.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:04 (eight years ago) link

<333 demdike but i didn't vote for tryptych bcz yeah reissue part

almost read 'hatchback' as 'horseback' (who i did vote for)

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:04 (eight years ago) link

yeah idk i have like opinions about tracks but its like my god its such an effort to listen to an album. i usually just get into a couple of tracks straight away and move on to something else before i've properly listened to the whole album. the hatchback is weird in that its kindof an ambient album but it is seriously riveting all the way through. like i just get hypnotised by it and go fully zen.

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:04 (eight years ago) link

I didn't really fall for Moon Duo until hearing it on teh vinyl. Mastering + production job = stunning...I think James Plotkin was involved. Great record.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (eight years ago) link

like i feel the cosmos vibrate, my chakras are opening can you feel my healing winds etc

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (eight years ago) link

hatchback = balearic stuff right? i have a few tracks by them but didn't hear that album

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (eight years ago) link

Moon Duo! Nice! One of my favorite things yet to come out of the Wooden Shjips axis.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (eight years ago) link

her voice and the spooky atmosphere esp. in the beginning of that laura marling song "the beast" reminds me so much of michelle shocked's first record "the texas campfire tapes" that it hurts. is she michelle's daughter?

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (eight years ago) link

the Demdike album felt like more of a 2010 thing to me, so didn't really think about voting for it. Not sure it would have made my ballot anyway.

xps basically what everyone else said

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (eight years ago) link

Hatchback is one of the dudes from Windsurf (lol)

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:06 (eight years ago) link

Love the moon duo and glad it placed as i cut it from my ballot too.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:06 (eight years ago) link

Whoop, another one of mine in Moon Duo. I've probably said this a million times now, but I couldn't get past the Doors influence of Wooden Shjips, but MD I really dig.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:07 (eight years ago) link

Never really got into Moon Duo apart from their Christmas tunes (posts v much in character), prefer Wooden Shjips who sound a bit more muscular to me.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:07 (eight years ago) link

the title track from that moon duo album is probably the most fun song ive heard all year

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:08 (eight years ago) link

Hey this Moon Duo is pretty neat judging by 'When You Cut'

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:08 (eight years ago) link

i like wooden shjips but prefer moon duo.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:09 (eight years ago) link

anyone have specific track recommendations by hatchback or moon duo?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:09 (eight years ago) link

"Zeus and Apollo" is maybe the most immediate track on the Hatchback album, still all about the Krauty blissed-out beach vibezzz though.
http://youtu.be/f2RkfFDCrWc

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:09 (eight years ago) link

lex youve been really quiet here compared to the tracks poll. Have you heard anything yet you hadnt hesrd but like?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:10 (eight years ago) link

the title track from that moon duo album is probably the most fun song ive heard all year

― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Listening now. :)

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:11 (eight years ago) link

i didn't vote but Hatchback was one of my favorite albums this year.

just...gorgeous

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:11 (eight years ago) link

Moon Duo can do no wrong.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:12 (eight years ago) link

moon duo is great. especially this monster of a song. keyboard "riffs" rule!

http://youtu.be/RqcBjZmUbSU

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:13 (eight years ago) link

I loved the Moon Duo album but considered it too old for a 2011 list.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:13 (eight years ago) link

Krauty blissed-out beach vibezzz

How to sell me on a record in five words or less. I need to check out this Hatchback.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:13 (eight years ago) link

I loved the Moon Duo album but considered it too old for a 2011 list.

It came out in 2011 though!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:14 (eight years ago) link

hatchback was my #1, was hoping it would place higher. very well-executed new agey ambient balearica, miles better than anything else the guy has done (save for maybe "white diamond"?). "orinoco waltz" is my favorite track fwiw

also love far side virtual. not going to try to explain WHY, cause it was sort of an obvious, immediate connection for me, and if you don't get it off the bat you are a lost cause imo

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:14 (eight years ago) link

lex youve been really quiet here compared to the tracks poll. Have you heard anything yet you hadnt hesrd but like?

not really. it's harder to check out new albums (especially as my hard drive died at the weekend and took my entire music collection with it). other than marling and wruhme, i wasn't enthusiastic about any i'd already heard. i checked out a few tracks of the ones i haven't heard but nothing's grabbed me, though hatchback might be the likeliest yet. (well i assume i'll like grouper but i also assume i know what it sounds like and can hear it at my leisure)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:15 (eight years ago) link

yeah "white diamond" is the old hatchback song i liked

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:15 (eight years ago) link

w.r.t. the title track, i love how they perfectly mix the poppy boppy vibe with the soaring wanky psych guitar solos

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:15 (eight years ago) link

I might be wrong but it I am sure I was listening to it in summer 2010. I might be losing my marbles.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:16 (eight years ago) link

Pleasantly surprised that moon duo placed - I liked it well enough.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:17 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Tj5oC.jpg

48. Tom Waits — Bad As Me (352 points, 14 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 5

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:18 (eight years ago) link

xp

Maybe you are thinking of Escape?

My initial reaction to the new one was "too poppy" and "too repetitive" but those riffs drove their way into my brain in a good way.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:18 (eight years ago) link

I might be wrong but it I am sure I was listening to it in summer 2010. I might be losing my marbles.

The Escape EP was from 2010, but Mazes came out in March of 2011.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:19 (eight years ago) link

Didn't vote for the Waits, but its a good record. I picked a good time to check back in on him.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:20 (eight years ago) link

Didn't really like the Moon Duo album the one time i heard it, but forget the nature of my gripes.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Ah Bad As Me, which I voted for and gave a positive write up when it came out, but now...? I dunno, I've gone right off it. Too many dull ballads and hoary rockers. I'd say there are maybe four decent tracks here but I skip so much off this thing. Do like Let's Get Lost and Hell Broke Luce.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Was kind of like Wet Hair iirc? xp re Moon Duo

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:21 (eight years ago) link

lex i'd be pretty surprised if you didn't like the Hatchback album. really should've placed higher, imo.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:23 (eight years ago) link

demdike stare and moon duo = my first votes to make the countdown. yay!

i've cooled on the former a bit since late 2010/early 2011, as their assembled body of work tilts a little too steeply towards spooky aural wallpaper for my taste, but the high points (in my estimation, the denser and more beat-driven tracks like "forest of evil dawn" and "repository of light") are spectacular.

moon duo are easily my favorite thing to come out of the wooden shjips axis, and mazes is leaps and bounds beyond anything they've done prior. could listen to the title track forever. so effortlessly cool and catchy. motorik beach pop!

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:23 (eight years ago) link

oh tom waits, nice. didn't quite make my ballot but i was really pleasantly surprised by it - it sounds like he really enjoyed making it, it has this fantastically unforced feel to it - just tom being tom and doing what he's best at. these were my favourites

talking at the same time
hell broke luce
last leaf

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:24 (eight years ago) link

tried to listen to laura marling's "the beast" but couldn't make it through

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Demdike Stare is fantastic, but I didn't vote for it because I kind of thought of it more as a comp/reissue.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:24 (eight years ago) link

only played the TW album once so far but Hell Broke Luce completely owns

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:25 (eight years ago) link

basically a really nice balance between drunken rollicking explosions and chants / sentimental balladeering / casting a caustic observer's eye over the financial crisis

xps

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:25 (eight years ago) link

Lex, I agree it's def Tom's chillin out having fun being human album - think that's what made me like it in the first place, but I do miss his more character-based/theatrical side.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:26 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/wl1sI.jpg

47. Clams Casino — Instrumentals (354 points, 12 votes)

P4K: 17
P&J: 61

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:26 (eight years ago) link

cannot stand Last Leaf! Chicago and Face to the Highway are both great (among the other quality tracks mentioned)

XPOST

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:27 (eight years ago) link

oh god i just can't be bothered with clams casino until and unless rappers rap over it

so bored of 2am lonely laptop music in any case

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (eight years ago) link

Man. So many albums I literally haven't even heard of. I'm excited.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (eight years ago) link

ooo ooo ooo ooo ~melancholy~ ooo oooo ooooooooooooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzz

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (eight years ago) link

Clams is sweet. Shame 'I'm God' wasn't on the mixtape though, that's amazing.

XP

LOLex

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:29 (eight years ago) link

http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/reviews/2010/dialcd22.jpg

cover connexion

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:30 (eight years ago) link

clams is cool... he has a few classic beats but the actual rap songs are good enough that i don't see the point of the instrumentals

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:30 (eight years ago) link

what does this sound like?

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:31 (eight years ago) link

i am CONCERNED yall. we're 20 albums in and my favourites are by TOM WAITS and LAURA MARLING. and my favourite new music i've heard this week is by LEONARD COHEN. what is happening to me!!!

otoh i am downloading this hatchback album based on the awesome title track. wish i'd known about it last year, i felt like i wanted music like this a lot. psychgawsple did you like the almunia album?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:31 (eight years ago) link

i mean karl...

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:32 (eight years ago) link

or er both of you

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:32 (eight years ago) link

i like but don't love clams, prefer his music with rappers too.

so bored of 2am lonely laptop music in any case

so reductive

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:32 (eight years ago) link

Ha, that John Roberts album is songreat and none of you bastards voted for it last year at all. Clams Casino was like the Balam Acab record for me, pretty but kind of dull.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:33 (eight years ago) link

lex, also check out White Elephant's Sir John (plus Mark E Remix) and Torn Sail's Birds.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:34 (eight years ago) link

I like that Clams album a lot. Surprised it's this low, to be honest.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:34 (eight years ago) link

Lex you being a tom waits fan is so crazy to me! In a good/unpredictable way

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:34 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i voted for the Almunia album. i think my ballot was unweighted, though. i couldn't pick 25 albums to fill it out.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:34 (eight years ago) link

lex, also check out White Elephant's Sir John (plus Mark E Remix) and Torn Sail's Birds.

love both of these - they were on a great compilation called future balearica that i had. past tense. gone in my hard drive death ;_;

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:35 (eight years ago) link

lex i bet all your faves are much higher in poll if tracks results are anything to go by.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:35 (eight years ago) link

Thought the Almunia album was ok (the title track is a jam) but it was only like my 5th favourite beach vibez album of the year after Hatchback, Gatto Fritto, Out of City and probably something else I'm forgetting.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:36 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Ri9hd.jpg

46. Azari & III — Azari & III (358 points, 12 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 737

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:36 (eight years ago) link

Demdike Stare is fantastic, but I didn't vote for it because I kind of thought of it more as a comp/reissue.

― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:24 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, but i figure that if an album got okayed by the nomination process and the sounds contained are among my favorites on the choose-from list, then that's reason enough to throw it some points. a big part of my goal is to bring attention to music that i think deserves it, and i don't want technical considerations to limit me in that regard.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:37 (eight years ago) link

I was stunned by how much I loved that Azari & III record.

contenderizer - that's fair, I just didn't even see it on the nom list tbh

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:38 (eight years ago) link

yeahhhhh azari & iii!

actually i'm not sure this quite made my ballot either but it's a super great album - undecided was my favourite of the previously unreleased tracks

they've come such a long way, can't believe they'll be supporting madonna on her next tour. they should be fucking producing for her

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:38 (eight years ago) link

a & iii put on a fantastic live show too - "into the night" as final slow dance <3 <3 <3

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:39 (eight years ago) link

Really happy that Laura Marling placed, I suppose the difference between her and KT Tunstall is largely the darkness (ie she is 1x massive goth) - I think of her as closer to Will Oldham than any of the Mumfords set.

Also Laura is a better songwriter by fucking miles.

Hatchback is just precision loveliness.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:40 (eight years ago) link

A few hours late with this since I've been cooking/hosting dinner, but the Ferraro is a fun album - breezy/blank but quite psychedelic and non-intuitive in how things are assembled. One of my dearest friends has been raving about Ferraro for a few years now, so I view Ferraro via my friend's more artworld kinda axis (Cory Doctorow/Paper Rad/etc). High concept, sure, but not any more low-stakes gamesmanship than, I dunno, Brian "Windows 95 sound" Eno's ambient stuff. Reminds me a bit of 50s generic happy modern machine music & other optimistic chintz - cheers me up a lot more than the other ambient-y stuff I was listening to this year (Roll the Dice/Blanck Mass/Hauscka/etc).

ogmor probably put this better tbh.

etc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:40 (eight years ago) link

i was pretty shocked that azari & III finished in the 700s in P&J

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:40 (eight years ago) link

despite absolutely loving the pre-album singles i still haven't gotten to that azari & III album

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (eight years ago) link

does anyone have like a list or mix of good clams casino songs with rappers?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (eight years ago) link

This is the point I realise that Yob wont place :( I knew Corrupted wouldn't. The top of metal poll doesn't always translate over to doing well in big poll.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (eight years ago) link

I'm not even sure the metal poll winner will place now.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (eight years ago) link

I think "Manic"/"Undecided" were great but not sure how well the Azari & III hangs together as an album - better than the new H&LA, but not a patch on, say, the H&LA debut.

etc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:42 (eight years ago) link

does anyone have like a list or mix of good clams casino songs with rappers?

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:41 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lil b - i'm god
squadda b - fakest year ever
lil b - motivation
asap rocky - palace
lil b - cold war

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:42 (eight years ago) link

I voted for both Danny and Kendrick (the latter of whom was my #4), so stuff it, lex!

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:43 (eight years ago) link

I'm running a bit behind here, but just chiming in to say I really enjoy that Laura Marling album. It's got kind of a '70s singer-songwriter vibe to my ears: sprawling song structures, wide dynamics (too few albums recorded with headroom like that these days), confessional lyrics. Not sure exactly who it reminds me of. I also dig her voice a lot. My fave track is probably "Salinas" but there are many good ones. They're best heard in the context of the album though. I should probably go back and check our her previous work.

o. nate, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:43 (eight years ago) link

ASAP Rocky 'Wassup' probably ended up my favourite Clams production jobbie of the year.

XP

Lil B 'Motivation' killer also, yeah. Can't see a Lil B record scraping in here, iirc 'Angel's Exodus' was hovering around the bottom end of my ballot.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:44 (eight years ago) link

Checkin and diggin the Moon Duo album

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:44 (eight years ago) link

Yeah the Laura Marling was a great discovery for me, I really like the vibe.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:44 (eight years ago) link

couldn't get into the Azari & III album at all, nothing was as good as the singles which i was already sick of

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:45 (eight years ago) link

Checkin and diggin the Moon Duo album

― Number None, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:44 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

me too! this is good

what label put this out?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:46 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/glodu.jpg

45. The Weeknd — House of Balloons (360 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: 10
P&J: 13

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:46 (eight years ago) link

uh oh

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (eight years ago) link

Uh - ohs

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (eight years ago) link

Sacred Bones (xpost re: Moon Duo)

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (eight years ago) link

Haha xp!

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (eight years ago) link

Azari album is cool, but didn't vote for it.

xp lawl

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (eight years ago) link

i guess 45 is pleasingly low for this worthless shit

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (eight years ago) link

TWO first place votes?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (eight years ago) link

the first weeknd album is still pretty cool imo, i think it was at the very bottom of my ballot

everything after that has been totally unneccesary tho

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (eight years ago) link

yeah, 45 is way below basically like any other list that has rated this

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (eight years ago) link

BOOM!

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (eight years ago) link

A DIGRESSION: ok listening to this hatchback now, this is ~vibez~

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:49 (eight years ago) link

yeah, 45 is way below basically like any other list that has rated this

ilx is like the one place i'm confident will have some non-superstar r&b actually above the weeknd and frank ocean

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:49 (eight years ago) link

does anyone have like a list or mix of good clams casino songs with rappers?

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:41 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lil b - i'm god
squadda b - fakest year ever
lil b - motivation
asap rocky - palace
lil b - cold war

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:42 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ty!!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:50 (eight years ago) link

azari and iii sounding pretty good. can't get a handle on hatchback, but maybe i need to save it for a more contemplative moment. liked the weeknd album, but not enough to vote for it.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:51 (eight years ago) link

A DIGRESSION: ok listening to this hatchback now, this is ~vibez~

OTM. Very much regretting not voting for Hatchback now...

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:52 (eight years ago) link

i kinda like that weeknd album. what's there to hate? i like gifts. especially if they contain music worth to listen to.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:52 (eight years ago) link

I would add Lil B's "What You Doin" to the Clams list

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:53 (eight years ago) link

Everyone on ILM seemed to love the Hatchback record; I thought it was a bit nothingy, and nowhere near as good as his previous one, Colors of the Sun. I should give it another go.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:53 (eight years ago) link

ilx is like the one place i'm confident will have some non-superstar r&b actually above the weeknd and frank ocean

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend)

Really hope that Raphael Saadiq is one of the albums that places higher.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:54 (eight years ago) link

they should package this hatchback album with a bottle of campari

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:54 (eight years ago) link

I'm not even sure the metal poll winner will place now.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:41 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

gave it a ton of points, but yeah, sadface. think i may have wasted my #1 vote too (a "metal" album that did ok in 2010), but at least it was sincere [/linus]

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:55 (eight years ago) link

i love Colors of the Sun, too. you can't really listen to Z&A while sitting at the computer waiting for something to happen imo.

xposts

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:55 (eight years ago) link

i love Colors of the Sun, too. you can't really listen to Z&A while sitting at the computer waiting for something to happen imo.

i can vouch for this

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:56 (eight years ago) link

yeah i hoped the album you mention might place too but i dont think so now. Even though it came out in N America in 2011 its still a 2010 album to most people.
Pity, I was looking forward to lots of "I didn't know they had an album out this year" "oh its a different band of the same name?"

xp

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:57 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/tkzXV.jpg

44. Fucked Up — David Comes To Life (360 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 33
P&J: 11

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:58 (eight years ago) link

some really amazing guitars on this one but I can't get over the vocals - which for people who like it are probably the key to the record.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:00 (eight years ago) link

My first place vote, absolutely love this album but I think this was pretty well hashed out in the singles results thread.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:01 (eight years ago) link

let's have another 50-post digression about hardcore vocals now!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:01 (eight years ago) link

sorry, I missed that!

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:02 (eight years ago) link

paging DJP, paging DJP

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:03 (eight years ago) link

Loved this album, though it did drag after a few listens. Can't remember how high it was on my ballot.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:03 (eight years ago) link

sorry, I missed that!

― skip, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:02 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah sry that wasnt meant to snark you just to relive fond memories of a week ago

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

really great record

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

have been following this discussion pretty well, i never knew how many haters there are on ilm.

marc iv, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

was really enthused about this when it dropped, can listen to some tracks in isolation, but that's about it

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:04 (eight years ago) link

it's a fabulous record, i'd like to see it place higher. concerns about the length and sameiness are well-founded but it just sounds so good i don't really care.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:05 (eight years ago) link

how can someone listen to a band who gives itself such a moronic name? after i had listened to their album i knew why, apparently the only memorable thing about them is their name.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:06 (eight years ago) link

Giving this a listen now. I expect to like it unless the vox are as bad as made out. but if its not death metal cookie monster grunting then the vox are prob fine

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:07 (eight years ago) link

ok nothing wrong whatsoever with these vox

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:07 (eight years ago) link

funny thing about that fucked up record is that while i wasn't really feeling it at the time (standard complaints about the vocals) and still can't sit through the whole thing at once, i almost always dig the individual tracks when they come up on shuffle - especially if, as on "queen of hearts", they've got someone else singing for a bit. if i'd done a tracks ballot, that song would have scored high.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:08 (eight years ago) link

so many ilxors had never heard hardcore vox before?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:08 (eight years ago) link

i like fucked up but the whole thing of people marveling about OMG A SHOUTY HARDCORE BAND GOT A BONER FOR THE SOFT BULLETIN gets a bit much

also no one who listens to black metal gets to complain abt hardcore vox

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:09 (eight years ago) link

As opposed to a great name like tUnE-yArDs or Hatchback? I mean, come on with that argument.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:09 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/gHe8j.jpg

43. Real Estate — Days (361 points, 11 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: 9
P&J: 32

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

not sure if i voted that 1 in this poll, but it was #1 on my p&j ballot

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

It's good stuff, just way too long and relentless for me to have ever heard the entire thing in one listening. Queen Of Hearts was one of my favourite tunes of the year, the rest does pretty much the same thing in different ways.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:10 (eight years ago) link

what in the world does the soft bulletin have to do with that fucked up record?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

seriously these vox are no different to all the hardcore vox i listened to in the 90s. What is so off-putting other than the fact you maybe dont dig hardcore? Contenderizer im surprised at you re the vox.

I really like this so far

xp

oh cool Real Estate!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Love love that Real Estate album too! We're on a great run here.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Days is such a great little jangle rock record.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

xxxpost Sorry, that was about Fucked Up, not Real Estate who I don't think I really understand yet.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

this is p4k indie right?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

also no one who listens to black metal gets to complain abt hardcore vox

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown),

who was that aimed at?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Nothing really sticks out on Days (the cover is appropriate) but what a great vibe. I found myself listening to it three or four times in a row at work.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Hmm...have to say I dug the previous album but this was a big let-down ("It's Real") aside.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

if it is Lex, p4k is improving.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

yeah it doesn't 'feel' like a #1 album of the year, but i returned to it a ton, and it's so, so good at what it does that i just played it more than anything last year

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

This is Feelies worship indie.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

like that real estate record, it feels slight but i think jangle pop is kinda slight by nature

also no one who listens to black metal gets to complain abt hardcore vox

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown),

who was that aimed at?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:11 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no one in particular, just cutting it off before it starts

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

Not a bad band to worship.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:13 (eight years ago) link

my gf totally stole days and stashed it in her car so i haven't gotten to listen to it nearly enough

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:13 (eight years ago) link

I knew I liked her.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:13 (eight years ago) link