Rustie - Glass Swords

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Debut of the year?

Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:30 (four years ago) Permalink

Some track previews
http://soundcloud.com/rustie

Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:31 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't get why i couldn't start this. i hate technology SO MUCH.

anyway this is what i wanted to post:

AND U KNOW I WANNA RIDE OUT // Rustie - Glass Swords (Oct 2011)

i've been stupid busy at conferences of late, and this b2b on the new rustie album has been a) keeping my energy levels up rushing between events b) making me feel inappropriately ravey when i get to meetings. double drop:

the whole album is like that :D

lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:37 (four years ago) Permalink

it kind of renders everything Hudson Mohawke has done irrelevant

Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:39 (four years ago) Permalink

In fairness everything Hudson Mohawke has done is already irrelevant.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:44 (four years ago) Permalink

they are working in very similar modes though. Rustie is just a lot better.

Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:46 (four years ago) Permalink

I wasn't really sure about Ultra Thizz, it kind of felt like he was deliriously throwing in as many euphoric signifiers as possible without any regard to build or groove or anything. I admire his enthusiasm but... icing needs cake.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:47 (four years ago) Permalink

^yeah this is something like what I think about my less favoured parts of the album - on the dance partisans thread I said that it just reminded me of millennial chart trance - which I don't think is entirely merit-free (and has obviously had some of its tropes revived in the last few years) but imo he doesn't do it that well

the great bits of the album are... great

the wrong terry to fuckwit (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:18 (four years ago) Permalink

aw c'mon guys, hudson mohawke has his thing too.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 12:41 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Dude evidently plays a lot of Nintendo and eats a lot of sugar, right?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 10:13 (four years ago) Permalink

This sort of minimal-attention-span nonsense has kind of awakened the question of what horrors we'd have got had Warp artists tried to make drill'n'trance a thing 10 years ago.

A bit like drill and bass it's kind of baseline enjoyable in its silliness and shameless rushiness but beat-wise and groove-wise it's completely functionally useless as dance music.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 10:16 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't think it's actually trying to be dance music though. It is kind of a puzzler in that i'm not sure "how" to listen to the album, but i still love it

Number None, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 10:35 (four years ago) Permalink

idk, i think most of the highlights on this album seem made for the dancefloor

lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:57 (four years ago) Permalink

Belated thanks to Number None for starting this thread and thereby making me aware of this record. Have enjoyed immensely.

pandemic, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:57 (four years ago) Permalink

I think youre missing the point if you think this is unfocused or minimal attention span, I'd say the whole thing works as a very singular concept and whilst not totally linear its not got the floor clearing smugness that characterises drill and bass. Best Dance album since Sheds last

straightola, Friday, 14 October 2011 15:45 (four years ago) Permalink

idk, i think most of the highlights on this album seem made for the dancefloor

But the grooves and beats that should underpin this sort of stuff just aren't there. Maybe it's the halfstep beats and/or the fact that Rustie's coming from a dubstep lineage but I dunno, it feels like this music is standing in the middle of the dancefloor making manic largin' it hand gestures rather than actually dancing.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 October 2011 15:58 (four years ago) Permalink

i wouldn't know how to dance to it but i've seen it done. rustie doesn't come from a dubstep lineage though. there isn't much of that lineage in glasgow.

stirmonster, Friday, 14 October 2011 17:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he's pretty keen to distance himself from the dubstep label in interviews

Number None, Friday, 14 October 2011 17:50 (four years ago) Permalink

the hot beats juxtaposed against the over-the-top rave & '80s synth sounds is a big part of what makes it work for me. if it was a four-on-the-floor record, it would probably tip over into schlock.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 14 October 2011 17:53 (four years ago) Permalink

I am very excited about seeing Rustie, in Glasgow, tonight, what with this being out and him being a Glasgow native and all that.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Friday, 14 October 2011 18:20 (four years ago) Permalink

Report back on the amount/style of dancing

Number None, Friday, 14 October 2011 18:23 (four years ago) Permalink

This sort of minimal-attention-span nonsense has kind of awakened the question of what horrors we'd have got had Warp artists tried to make drill'n'trance a thing 10 years ago.

A bit like drill and bass it's kind of baseline enjoyable in its silliness and shameless rushiness but beat-wise and groove-wise it's completely functionally useless as dance music.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:16 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

i'm enjoying this album but after reading matt's post i'd been expecting something really CRAZY and INTENSE and SCHIZOPHRENIC and it's really not? like what makes this "minimal-attention-span"? i guess the tracks are on the shorter side?

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 20 October 2011 16:14 (four years ago) Permalink

agreed, most of the tracks have song-like structures that are very logical.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:37 (four years ago) Permalink

i wouldn't know how to dance to it but i've seen it done. rustie doesn't come from a dubstep lineage though. there isn't much of that lineage in glasgow.

― stirmonster, Friday, 14 October 2011 18:48 (6 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, he's pretty keen to distance himself from the dubstep label in interviews

― Number None, Friday, 14 October 2011 18:50 (6 days ago) Bookmark

<3 rustie

nakhchivan, Thursday, 20 October 2011 17:42 (four years ago) Permalink

some excellent writing about this album:

http://www.dummymag.com/reviews/2011/10/24/rustie-glass-swords/

lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:46 (four years ago) Permalink

This is probably closer to people like Crystal Castles and Justice than it is to dubstep, yeah.

It's good music to play Mario Kart to, I have discovered.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:51 (four years ago) Permalink

Listened to the first three tracks from this in a shop on Monday. Must say I was fairly blown away. That Dummy mag description is the most accurate I've read so far. Have now ordered the CD.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:36 (four years ago) Permalink

nice review, and it totally seems like rustie and hudmo are having fun trying to one-up each other. i don't hear it as a difficult listen at all though, it's pure pleasure.

this is unusual for batman. (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:42 (four years ago) Permalink

agree with "emotive love letter" from that review, and wish the writer had expanded on that a bit. the primary appeal for me is the pathos of all the ravey flourishes.

lukas, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:59 (four years ago) Permalink

WOW...just fucking WOW !!!

beat-wise and groove-wise it's completely functionally useless as dance music.

bad workmen always blame their tools.

if you can't dance to this, you probably just can't dance

meat to pleased you (flame grilled meat), Thursday, 27 October 2011 04:44 (four years ago) Permalink

^^^ this. How is this not-danceable? Each track is a banger.

That said, there's something a little flat-plan about the production that makes it at once exhausting and less punchy as the album wears on. It's better enjoyed track-by-track imo.

dog latin, Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:12 (four years ago) Permalink

Like I said, it's full of the sonic signifiers of dancing - europhoric trance synths, enormous hooks and what have you - but without the beats and momentum underneath that make dance music. It's all icing, no cake.

The Dusted review above actually agrees with me that it's not particularly concerned with the dancefloor in the first place. Feels like a headphone/living room record to me.

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:34 (four years ago) Permalink

It certainly helped me get the washing up done, although Ultra Thizz is one of the only one's I'd like to see played out. Then again, it does happily sit between Justice-style electro, big-room dubstep and IDM, so it's the eclectic DJ's wet dream. But it ain't straight dance, no. It all depends on what you wanna hear on the dancefloor. There's so much brostep stuff that sounds rhythmically disjointed out there and people go bonkers to that. Personally I love the disorientating switches in tempo/signature and don't think they make it anti-dance; it just keeps things interesting and fun. So yeah, it's kind of the Skrillex it's okay to like (mostly cos the metal/emo element is entirely removed).

dog latin, Thursday, 27 October 2011 10:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Music like this requires a new way of dancing to it. If you just want to get your standard groove on, fine, but if you want to push the limits of your particular dancing 'style' you will be rewarded.

I say, do what Rustie did with the sonic signifiers and apply it to your body movement, but then again i tend not to dance to the beat of the kick snare. It's all about the hi hats, rolls, fills and breaks.

meat to pleased you (flame grilled meat), Thursday, 27 October 2011 20:15 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm surprised that people only seem to dance to one element of a track. dance to the melodies!!

lex pretend, Thursday, 27 October 2011 23:14 (four years ago) Permalink

My hips dance to the kick/snare, my feet to the hi hats, my hands/fingers to the melody/chords and my head to some shit only i can hear. Sometimes i open my eyes on the dancefloor and find i've cleared quite a little space around me.

meat to pleased you (flame grilled meat), Friday, 28 October 2011 00:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Look I am trying to find nice ways of saying that this is really nerdy funkless music, okay? And that's alright! The music itself is pretty explicitly acknowledging how dorky it is.

Matt DC, Friday, 28 October 2011 10:51 (four years ago) Permalink

This is all true, and I don't think "a lack of funk" is necessarily a bad thing (other elements of this more than make up for it - it's certainly got ENERGY). But where is it explicitly acknowledging its nerdiness?

dog latin, Friday, 28 October 2011 10:56 (four years ago) Permalink

Because it's like 80% prog rock and video games?

Matt DC, Friday, 28 October 2011 10:58 (four years ago) Permalink

prog rock?!?!

i disagree, this album's strength is its sugar rush obviousness, it's the opposite of nerding out over complex rhythms or abstract sounds

lex pretend, Friday, 28 October 2011 11:00 (four years ago) Permalink

There are prog rock synths and occasionally guitar noises all over this. But then there are prog rock synths over a lot of music I like from the last few years.

Sugar rush obviousness can be nerdy as well in its own right, especially given that most of this record sounds like an overdriven Nintendo soundtrack. I'm not even saying it's bad - it's very stupid, very enjoyable, ridiculously nerdy.

Matt DC, Friday, 28 October 2011 11:05 (four years ago) Permalink

nakhchivan, Friday, 28 October 2011 11:09 (four years ago) Permalink

I think it's a bit of both. There's something really studied about those ravey builds and rush-ups. There's quite a lot of music coming out at the moment (some of Bass Clef's work is another example) that explores a kind of poignant nostalgia for what rave could have been. I guess it's not far removed from what people like Luke Vibert were doing 10-15 years ago, but these are "children of rave", i.e. they probably grew up hearing Tricky Disco and Charly Says on the radio and somehow feel that world needs a deeper excavation with more advanced technology.

dog latin, Friday, 28 October 2011 11:12 (four years ago) Permalink

Is that Rustie? Christ, he looks about 15. To him early dance music must sound like what Led Zepp sounds like to me....

dog latin, Friday, 28 October 2011 11:13 (four years ago) Permalink

Someone's stolen his umbrella

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 28 October 2011 11:14 (four years ago) Permalink

nerdy ? funkless ? dorky ? you haven't confused Rustie with Reso in power extreme mode have you ?

I'm just not getting the prog rock thing. At least not in a way i do from something like lol - me me, which along with this, is shaping up to be among my top picks of the year.

meat to pleased you (flame grilled meat), Friday, 28 October 2011 11:59 (four years ago) Permalink

Rustie is definitely a big prog fan, as is Hudson Mohawke

Number None, Friday, 28 October 2011 12:29 (four years ago) Permalink

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/300374-rustie_appliance_science

Glass Swords is also informed by music that pre-dates, and in many cases directly influences, hip-hop and techno. Rustie cites prog-rock pioneers Yes and the jazz fusion of Allan Holdsworth as pivotal (you can hear the latter's imprint all over the album’s titular opening track, an intoxicating perfume of flutes and chopped choral vocals that swirl around a naïvely epic, pedal-heavy guitar solo), as well as the pejoratively titled genre of 'yacht rock', as Rustie puts it – a "sort of smooth, sort of jazzy sort of rock from the 80s" – of which Michael McDonald and the Doobie Brothers were prolific practitioners

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Friday, 28 October 2011 12:35 (four years ago) Permalink

Im hearing Vince Clarke and Trevor Horn in Rusties sound palette more than anything. That'll be where the Clarke/YES thing comes in i suppose, combined with the ethos of Horn's collab with Malcolm Mclaren on Duck Rock. But the mish mash pastiche of reappropriated sounds reminds me most of Tim Simenon's breakthough with Beat Dis albeit with analogue patches rather than samples.

you want fries with that (flame grilled meat), Saturday, 29 October 2011 10:39 (four years ago) Permalink

Is that Rustie? Christ, he looks about 15.

He looks like an exuberant Pokemon.

Matt DC, Saturday, 29 October 2011 19:33 (four years ago) Permalink

just listened to "glass swords" b2b w/ soul jazz's "deutsche elektronische musik" comp which is largely just prog as opposed to electronic music and it was a very smooth transition

there are moments of the rustie album that are straight-up prog imo

the late great, Friday, 3 May 2013 18:36 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

New Rustie track, dang. My vote for most interesting/exciting producer working today, as far as post-dubstep and trap goes. Can't wait for new record.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b046ddlv

Dominique, Saturday, 21 June 2014 20:06 (two years ago) Permalink

"Most exciting trap producer" = damned by faint praise!

the late great, Saturday, 21 June 2014 20:11 (two years ago) Permalink

sort of, but most trap doesn't sound like Rustie/only wishes it sounded like Rustie.

Dominique, Saturday, 21 June 2014 20:44 (two years ago) Permalink

I still don't think he ever topped the Jagz The Smack EP

boxedjoy, Saturday, 21 June 2014 21:59 (two years ago) Permalink

LOLLLL u so crazy

the late great, Saturday, 21 June 2014 22:35 (two years ago) Permalink

actually if i can interject some challops of my own i think zig zag is still his best track

the late great, Saturday, 21 June 2014 22:37 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

NEW SHIT

the late great, Thursday, 21 August 2014 03:46 (two years ago) Permalink

Streamed this yesterday and it's nowhere near as buoyant or thrilling as Glass Swords, which is maybe my album of the decade so far.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 21 August 2014 03:55 (two years ago) Permalink

not sure how i feel about the album as a whole, but the d double e and danny brown 1-2 punch in the middle is undeniable

the late great, Thursday, 21 August 2014 03:57 (two years ago) Permalink

i'll have to give it some time but i hear what you're saying, first impression it's definitely not as good as glass swords, not sure what's missing

the late great, Thursday, 21 August 2014 03:58 (two years ago) Permalink

I was confused as to why the vocalist on "Dream On" wasn't credited when all the others were. If the woman singing turns out to be Kelli-Leigh I would actually die.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 21 August 2014 04:00 (two years ago) Permalink

And yeah this is just off one stream - and I love all his other stuff - so I'm definitely willing to give it a chance too.

Glorious cover art btw.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 21 August 2014 04:00 (two years ago) Permalink

Looking forward to the D Double track but really he should have got on the phone to Flirta D for full on glorious gonzoid effect.

Matt DC, Thursday, 21 August 2014 09:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I CAN'T PLAY THE COMPUTER GAME THAT UNLOCKS THE TRACKS!

lex pretend, Thursday, 21 August 2014 09:31 (two years ago) Permalink

having said that i did not think the lead single was up to much so i haven't tried that hard. sum total of time I've spent on computer games in my life = 5 mins of mario the hedgehog when i was 7, 5 mins spent repeatedly running it into a ravine

lex pretend, Thursday, 21 August 2014 09:33 (two years ago) Permalink

"mario the hedgehog" eh?

Number None, Thursday, 21 August 2014 09:36 (two years ago) Permalink

Games? Is that what you call them? Games?

Matt DC, Thursday, 21 August 2014 09:39 (two years ago) Permalink

This is sounding pretty great so far...

MikoMcha, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:38 (two years ago) Permalink

It's awful

Number None, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:42 (two years ago) Permalink

d double e and danny brown 1-2 punch in the middle is undeniable

Just hit this section, and um... it's fairly deniable imo. Bit of a wasted opportunity. Prefer the instrumentals...

MikoMcha, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Some of the early tracks are dope, think I need to spend more time with this.

MikoMcha, Monday, 25 August 2014 18:50 (two years ago) Permalink

¯\(°_o)/¯

the late great, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:17 (two years ago) Permalink

Pretty much.

MikoMcha, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:20 (two years ago) Permalink

feels like a bit like offcuts from the first album, all the sounds are there but the impact is not. "velcro" is alright and so is the d double e one; danny brown sounds weird like he's half putting on a british grime mc's accent. pretty blah album tbh

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 15:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Rapture is cool, I especially like the first four tracks. Then it goes a bit off the rails and never really recovers.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:05 (two years ago) Permalink

ha, i felt the opposite - first half was most disappointing, got slightly better once it hit the rap tracks but never really hit the heights

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 16:15 (two years ago) Permalink

just started playing glass swords again and while i mostly like it, it really is not the sort of thing i can listen to for very long

snd are similar in this respect

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:26 (two years ago) Permalink

i used to like the early rustie eps from years ago, ep is probably the ideal format for him

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:26 (two years ago) Permalink

i decided i only like the rap tracks

the late great, Thursday, 28 August 2014 19:03 (two years ago) Permalink

like almost all the vocal tracks on this, esp the danny brown one, but i think the instrumentals are easy to underrate. definitely more subdued than GS, and less ambitious, and sometimes just a bit deficient (ie the total opposite of GS where nothing could be seen as being deficient), but they still sound like no one else. i think he was thinking more melodically on this album. maybe its him trying to get more producer work, or do something 'proper' rather than weird/funny like the last one, not sure, but its still good. hopefully he hasnt gotten too self conscious.

StillAdvance, Friday, 29 August 2014 10:25 (two years ago) Permalink

Some parts of this album give me instant nostalgia for 80s arcade game soundtracks - I think its the general midi sounding slap bass noise he uses occasionally - but it takes me back to listening to this as an 8 year old: http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/6_Amazing_Coin-Op_Soundtracks_from_Virgin_Games

Willl, Friday, 29 August 2014 10:57 (two years ago) Permalink

I'm quite sure that's intentional

Number None, Friday, 29 August 2014 16:10 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

anyone still listening to this? i think its a bit of a grower. every track with guest vocalists is great except the gorgeous children one, and even though theyre a bit sketchy, the instrumentals generally have enough good things going for them for me not to write this album off. it doesnt attack you like glass swords, but i dont see that as a negative. or maybe you just really have to be a big rustie fan.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 18:37 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

no Hudson Mohawke thread, huh? i'm sad that i haven't heard anything i like so far off the new Hud Mo album :(

(only heard the singles, not the full thing, i'm sure there will be a couple deep cut jams)

lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 17:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Ryderz is such a banger

could've sworn he had his own thread but i can't find it either

nose, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 17:27 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

listened to it thrice today

day's not over yet

0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

um and apparently new album tomorrow?

https://soundcloud.com/rustie/peace-upzzz

expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 November 2015 17:45 (nine months ago) Permalink

better than the last one but still not as good as glass swords ....

the late great, Thursday, 5 November 2015 08:04 (nine months ago) Permalink

hope this gets released on cd.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 5 November 2015 13:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

oof this album is absolutely dreadful

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 November 2015 17:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

you mean absolutely brilliant and almost as good as glass swords

StillAdvance, Thursday, 10 December 2015 17:41 (eight months ago) Permalink

he announced on twitter a few days ago that he's no longer doing shows for the foreseeable future due to mental health/substance abuse issues :/

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 21:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

i need glass swords back on my phone

whats the verdict on the new album?

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 29 July 2016 20:54 (one month ago) Permalink

the reviews seem good...

but, i think it's very bad, and without getting too gossipy, i understand that warp were very unhappy with it, and it was recorded during a period of heavy substance dependency.

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 July 2016 21:01 (one month ago) Permalink

huh, i remember the reviews being bad, but liking what i heard and thinking that i need to give it a good listen.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 29 July 2016 21:07 (one month ago) Permalink

metacritic is 74%, pitchfork 7.3.

line from the pitchfork review:

"It is a rawer, scrappier record than either of his prior LPs, and the way he flips the bird at conventional notions of fidelity is almost punk."

part of warp's problem with it, it sounds terrible because he produced and mastered it himself

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 July 2016 21:11 (one month ago) Permalink

ill hear a few tracks on youtube

but i did not like the second one at all and im afraid of the long track list of the third

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 29 July 2016 21:12 (one month ago) Permalink

it was better than green language but still nowhere near as good as glass swords, especially due to how rough-sounding it is

ufo, Saturday, 30 July 2016 11:40 (one month ago) Permalink


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