Poptimists get into ...METAL?!

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Metal is branching out as of late into more pop friendly, freakbeat directions:

Uncle Acid, a v likely candidate for top 20:

Ghost

Windhand: one of my favorite albums of 2011

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

And the #1 ilm metal album of 2011 was Hammers Of Misfortune

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

still ain't heard Hammer of Misfortune, but pretty much anyone I've played Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats to has enjoyed it.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think

was the most popular track in outloud along with

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

but would love to know what non-metal ilxors of all persuasions thought of this stuff

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

"!3 Songs" is my favorite Uncle Acid song, because it sounds like this only more over the top:

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

13 Candles is great yeah. Ummm... this thread needs some poptimists...?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

WHERE ARE THEY?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

sorry on the title mix up. Over tired

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Ritual Knife" is my favorite Uncle Acid and it reminds me of this song for some reason

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

oops
i am not a poptimist either

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

All of this stuff is pretty great, except for Hammers (which is one of the worst things in the world...soz, Armand).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

boo!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

does that mean you liked Windhand JF? *score!*

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe the thread title needs to be changed so that it surreptitiously alludes to the last Britney album and then BAM! TRIXED YOU IT'S METALLLL!!!!

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Femme Metale

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

does that mean you liked Windhand JF? *score!*

Sure, it's deece.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbf metal folks need to post some vids for the likes of the lex, tim f etc to view

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Are there many good metal vids out there? I stopped following just as web2.0 was kicking off so I have no idea. Is it literally just goths in churches or do they have better stuff than that?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

idk I think that the metalheads got turned off by the Pistol Annies videos, I'm wondering if it would happen the same way Kerr?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

just post stuff with clean vox. cant expect anyone to like extreme stuff unless someone asks for it. I guess atmospheric stuff like Alcest/Jesu/burzum the shoegazy bm/post-metal stuff might appeal to indie folks not sure about poptimists though

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

remember the poll countdown is on so people be reading that for a few hours

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Windhand is Psychedelic Stoner Doom so it may not be geared towards Poptimists but more towards ppl who liked the Peaking Lights record this year (ie me)

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

emil.y really really liked this track in outloud so poptimists might not care so much about it but if you like the music emil.y does it might be your thing

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also i bet pop fans could dig the j-pop inspired New Album by Boris

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

More female fronted metal with an occult fascination
an ilxor and his wife are in this band

Italian prog-doom inspired by a 1920s film of the same name

occult rock

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

okay that Jex Thoth song is kicking my ass

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait which ilxor?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

he has a wand

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

a mod needs to edit george's first post btw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

tilting at windmills, but

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

too throwbacky for this thread, but the vocals are clean and it's a good deal more accessible than most stuff that gets covered in rolling metal

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

if we're doing stuff from a wee bit further back then this is glorious doom with pop chorus by the best trad doom band of the last 15 years

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

and my fave Slough Feg song. Trad heavy metal here in the vein of maiden/lizzy. maybe djp will dig it though poptimists might not.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

drugs b righty!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just recently acquired that Jex Thoth album, love it. Other than the EP a couple years ago, they've been quiet. Anyone know if they've got something in the pipeline for this year?

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

did you hear the Sabbath Assembly thing she sang on?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok George how did we forget this big un

lol

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another good poppy doom song

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait a min, is that Ned on the cover of the Cauldron album?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

cannot wait to hear that full christian mistress album. the two songs i've heard so far are stellar.

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i pre-ordered it like 3 months ago

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

george it looks like the poptimists aren't interested :(

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

You shouldve linked to this thread when Uncle Acid placed on the countdown

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i did (i think) but maybe pop fans just aren't interested in the bogeyman called metal?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cher Lloyd - Sticks + Stones
Ghost - Opus Eponymous

Next to each other on my albums ballot. There's lots of great stuff in this thread. Pop / metal seems like a really natural crossover.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

probably a reaction against harsh vocals that long term metallers have got a bit fed up with without it going backwards to lame 80s glam pop metal stuff.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe "poptimists" don't consider themselves poptimists (or realize there's no such thing?) Anyway, I'm not sure whether people consider me a poptimist or not, but I just wanted to mention that, just a couple years ago, people would give me hell on ILM's rolling metal thread whenever I complained that such and such band (or metal in general, then) "wasn't catchy enough," since (this is more or less a direct quote I think) "hooks haven't been important in metal since the '80s." Anyway, I'm glad lots of metal (and Rolling Metal) wound up coming around to my way of thinking. And I'm on record already as liking a lot of metal posted on this thread (and also on record as liking the Pistol Annies album, fwiw).

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I also think I was fed up with vomit-style vocals before lots of other metallers around here were. (And I used to catch hell about that too!) Did like (and write about) that Jex Thoth album back when it came out, though. And that sort of thing (Blood Ceremony, Devils Blood, etc.) has only gotten better since, to my ears.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have I succeeded in getting other people into Midnight Odyssey? YES.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

i keep thinking of posting things but they would be more suited for a "hey avant garde noise freakos get into...METAL?!"

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

did someone post an ulver video yet or is that still exiled from metal town

or actually anything off of last years devin townsend album. pop people should really dig into latter day devin stuff.

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

The one Hammers of Misfortune song I heard sounded like Big Country (this is not a bad thing in my book btw)

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am mostly alone in this obv but i was really disappointed in this most recent hammers of misfortune after really digging them up until now.

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

you should start that thread jjj

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

"hey avant garde noise freakos get into...METAL?!"

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I sort of expected the Wolf People album to be a great uniter but then no one seemed to really notice it.

Simon H., Friday, 3 February 2012 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wolf People are no Powerwolf.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 00:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

tim f did you play these yet?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just wanted to mention that, just a couple years ago, people would give me hell on ILM's rolling metal thread whenever I complained that such and such band (or metal in general, then) "wasn't catchy enough,"

I think "people" in this phrase is really just ornery old me

thinking really hard lately about the latest retro wave in metal, which I think much of this stuff counts as - Ghost, Devil's Blood, my own favorite In Solitude, and also the new one by RAM which is excellent Hall of the Mountain Grill x Sad Wings of Destiny stuff: I think there's a fair amount of good songwriting in it, and generally less of the nostalgia-retro impulse that makes me dislike neo-thrash as much as I do. Feel like some of this stuff - especially Ghost and In Solitude - manage to sound sort of of-another-time without coming off irritating and romantic about it, which is a hard trick

naturally me being me I hope no crossover at all occurs & no new converts are gained

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 3 February 2012 13:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Are there many good metal vids out there? I stopped following just as web2.0 was kicking off so I have no idea. Is it literally just goths in churches or do they have better stuff than that?

I don't know if Red Fang's video's are "good" but they are certainly "fun" (in a very beery way):

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

i hear whiney's working on something abt this tbh

dave cool, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think "people" in this phrase is really just ornery old me

I actually had somebody else in mind, believe it or not. (And I had my ornery moments, now and then.)

Are there many good metal vids out there?

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2012 14:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know if Red Fang's video's are "good" but they are certainly "fun" (in a very beery we receive money from pabst way)

adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

i hear whiney's working on something abt this tbh

― dave cool, Friday, February 3, 2012 9:18 AM (2 hours ago)

some of the coolest news I've heard yet! Thanks!

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

in solitude are great too

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

chuck have you heard the jpop metal that j3ff t is a big fan of?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure what J-Pop Metal that would be. I saw the Babymetal video that got passed around on Facebook last year, if that counts, but otherwise I've heard way more K-Pop than J-Pop, and what I've heard hasn't been very metal.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i suppose its a bit more computer game/anime metal but jeff can tell you more(i cant stand it)

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I believe pfunkboy is asking about a band called Blood Stained Child. They're definitely different - a sort of anime death metal combo? Not easily described.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was more thinking of the stuff i alerted jeff to via a blog i read. I think that stuff is even cheesier than blood stained child. some of its instrumental anime power metal (with anime artwork) i call it lolita cosplay metal to annoy jeff (and he cant really argue with those descriptions!)

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

like this kind of thing

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes that's the album cover for Ryu-5150 – Symphonic Touhou V

god only knows what it sounds like.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw Blood Stain Child (who I kept getting mixed up with Old Man's Child, who I always used to mix up with Old Man Gloom, who I actually liked an album by once) on Rhapsody last year; either never got around to it or heard a couple tracks then decided it wasn't worth the trouble -- Not sure which. Are they considered "Visual Kei" (which I'm only vaguely familiar with because I edited a global Billboard story about it once)?

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Never heard of that other one.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh i love Old Man Gloom (isis/converge spin off) bizarrely i got into Isis and Converge via them about a decade ago. They definitely don't fit the premise of this thread!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure Chuck wouldn't be into any of those. Ryu-5150, Iron Attack, and Kissing the Mirror are all Touhou metal, which basically means instrumental shred covers of songs from this one videogame series. Dragon Guardian is basically insane power metal. And Undead Corporation are melodic death metal in the vein of In Flames. None of which really tracks with Chuck's taste.

Aldious and Asriel, on the other hand, are female-fronted Gothic-ish metal with a heavy dose of pop. I would start there if you are going to start with Japanese stuff. Not the ones that AG is linking to.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha, thanks Jeff -- I might have more use for "insane power metal" than "female-fronted Gothic-ish metal with a heavy dose of pop" these days (couldn't really get into the new Lacuna Coil or Nightwish at all -- though my wife says I should ask you guys where I can get the new Gathering with that Octavia Sperati lady) but I'll keep those in mind.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, it's the Japanese version of Gothic, which translates to this:

Which I would say sums up what Aldious sound like pretty well.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

naff?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ryu-5150, Iron Attack, and Kissing the Mirror are all Touhou metal, which basically means instrumental shred covers of songs from this one videogame series.

This broke my brain.

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 23:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

you haven't even been subjected to it!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's an explanation: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1750-touhou/

Here's a rundown of some of the more notable bands from the genre:
http://afsafe.blogspot.com/2011/06/big-four-of-touhou-metalrock.html

Also keep an eye out for an upcoming issue of Decibel where I give my thoughts on the latest releases from some of those bands.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

scary

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

:-o

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy SHIT, that Uncle Acid track that kicks off the thread... So good. The last minute or so of unfurling solos... I owe you guys for the tip!

Clarke B., Monday, 6 February 2012 03:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

i hear whiney's working on something abt this tbh

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suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

like that whiney

torche gets better the more pop/90s jawboxy they get

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 22:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

i wish the whole world would get more jawboxy tbh

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

i agree!

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

i met the jawbox dude that was living here several times at parties and got all shoestarey every time to avoid being THAT DUDE and getting all slobbery abt how awesome they were

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh yeah wasn't he in a band here the Millions or something? i sadly never got out to see them

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

he played w/tom in some project as well which would have been fucking rad but i dont think they ever played out

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh shit that would've been some serious chops in the rhythm section

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

that was awesome, whiney!

the endless white snow has never felt more textile (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 4 May 2012 05:35 (1 year ago) Permalink


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