Poptimists get into ...METAL?!

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Metal is branching out as of late into more pop friendly, freakbeat directions:

Uncle Acid, a v likely candidate for top 20:

Ghost

Windhand: one of my favorite albums of 2011

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

And the #1 ilm metal album of 2011 was Hammers Of Misfortune

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:09 (five years ago) Permalink

still ain't heard Hammer of Misfortune, but pretty much anyone I've played Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats to has enjoyed it.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:10 (five years ago) Permalink

i think

was the most popular track in outloud along with

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

but would love to know what non-metal ilxors of all persuasions thought of this stuff

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:12 (five years ago) Permalink

"!3 Songs" is my favorite Uncle Acid song, because it sounds like this only more over the top:

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

13 Candles is great yeah. Ummm... this thread needs some poptimists...?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

WHERE ARE THEY?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

sorry on the title mix up. Over tired

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

"Ritual Knife" is my favorite Uncle Acid and it reminds me of this song for some reason

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

oops
i am not a poptimist either

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

All of this stuff is pretty great, except for Hammers (which is one of the worst things in the world...soz, Armand).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

boo!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:21 (five years ago) Permalink

does that mean you liked Windhand JF? *score!*

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Maybe the thread title needs to be changed so that it surreptitiously alludes to the last Britney album and then BAM! TRIXED YOU IT'S METALLLL!!!!

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Femme Metale

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

does that mean you liked Windhand JF? *score!*

Sure, it's deece.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

cool

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

tbf metal folks need to post some vids for the likes of the lex, tim f etc to view

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Are there many good metal vids out there? I stopped following just as web2.0 was kicking off so I have no idea. Is it literally just goths in churches or do they have better stuff than that?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

idk I think that the metalheads got turned off by the Pistol Annies videos, I'm wondering if it would happen the same way Kerr?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

just post stuff with clean vox. cant expect anyone to like extreme stuff unless someone asks for it. I guess atmospheric stuff like Alcest/Jesu/burzum the shoegazy bm/post-metal stuff might appeal to indie folks not sure about poptimists though

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:32 (five years ago) Permalink

remember the poll countdown is on so people be reading that for a few hours

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Windhand is Psychedelic Stoner Doom so it may not be geared towards Poptimists but more towards ppl who liked the Peaking Lights record this year (ie me)

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

emil.y really really liked this track in outloud so poptimists might not care so much about it but if you like the music emil.y does it might be your thing

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Also i bet pop fans could dig the j-pop inspired New Album by Boris

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

More female fronted metal with an occult fascination
an ilxor and his wife are in this band

Italian prog-doom inspired by a 1920s film of the same name

occult rock

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:38 (five years ago) Permalink

okay that Jex Thoth song is kicking my ass

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:51 (five years ago) Permalink

wait which ilxor?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:51 (five years ago) Permalink

he has a wand

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:53 (five years ago) Permalink

a mod needs to edit george's first post btw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:57 (five years ago) Permalink

tilting at windmills, but

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:12 (five years ago) Permalink

too throwbacky for this thread, but the vocals are clean and it's a good deal more accessible than most stuff that gets covered in rolling metal

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:14 (five years ago) Permalink

if we're doing stuff from a wee bit further back then this is glorious doom with pop chorus by the best trad doom band of the last 15 years

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:17 (five years ago) Permalink

and my fave Slough Feg song. Trad heavy metal here in the vein of maiden/lizzy. maybe djp will dig it though poptimists might not.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

drugs b righty!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I just recently acquired that Jex Thoth album, love it. Other than the EP a couple years ago, they've been quiet. Anyone know if they've got something in the pipeline for this year?

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:38 (five years ago) Permalink

did you hear the Sabbath Assembly thing she sang on?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:42 (five years ago) Permalink

ok George how did we forget this big un

lol

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Another good poppy doom song

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:52 (five years ago) Permalink

wait a min, is that Ned on the cover of the Cauldron album?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

cannot wait to hear that full christian mistress album. the two songs i've heard so far are stellar.

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

i pre-ordered it like 3 months ago

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (five years ago) Permalink

george it looks like the poptimists aren't interested :(

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:58 (five years ago) Permalink

You shouldve linked to this thread when Uncle Acid placed on the countdown

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:09 (five years ago) Permalink

i did (i think) but maybe pop fans just aren't interested in the bogeyman called metal?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Cher Lloyd - Sticks + Stones
Ghost - Opus Eponymous

Next to each other on my albums ballot. There's lots of great stuff in this thread. Pop / metal seems like a really natural crossover.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:13 (five years ago) Permalink

probably a reaction against harsh vocals that long term metallers have got a bit fed up with without it going backwards to lame 80s glam pop metal stuff.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Maybe "poptimists" don't consider themselves poptimists (or realize there's no such thing?) Anyway, I'm not sure whether people consider me a poptimist or not, but I just wanted to mention that, just a couple years ago, people would give me hell on ILM's rolling metal thread whenever I complained that such and such band (or metal in general, then) "wasn't catchy enough," since (this is more or less a direct quote I think) "hooks haven't been important in metal since the '80s." Anyway, I'm glad lots of metal (and Rolling Metal) wound up coming around to my way of thinking. And I'm on record already as liking a lot of metal posted on this thread (and also on record as liking the Pistol Annies album, fwiw).

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I also think I was fed up with vomit-style vocals before lots of other metallers around here were. (And I used to catch hell about that too!) Did like (and write about) that Jex Thoth album back when it came out, though. And that sort of thing (Blood Ceremony, Devils Blood, etc.) has only gotten better since, to my ears.

xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:36 (five years ago) Permalink

naff?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Ryu-5150, Iron Attack, and Kissing the Mirror are all Touhou metal, which basically means instrumental shred covers of songs from this one videogame series.

This broke my brain.

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 23:38 (five years ago) Permalink

you haven't even been subjected to it!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's an explanation: http://www.cracked.com/funny-1750-touhou/

Here's a rundown of some of the more notable bands from the genre:
http://afsafe.blogspot.com/2011/06/big-four-of-touhou-metalrock.html

Also keep an eye out for an upcoming issue of Decibel where I give my thoughts on the latest releases from some of those bands.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:42 (five years ago) Permalink

scary

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:17 (five years ago) Permalink

:-o

original bgm, Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:14 (five years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:12 (five years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Holy SHIT, that Uncle Acid track that kicks off the thread... So good. The last minute or so of unfurling solos... I owe you guys for the tip!

Clarke B., Monday, 6 February 2012 03:08 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

i hear whiney's working on something abt this tbh

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suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:25 (five years ago) Permalink

like that whiney

torche gets better the more pop/90s jawboxy they get

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 22:39 (five years ago) Permalink

i wish the whole world would get more jawboxy tbh

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:01 (five years ago) Permalink

i agree!

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:08 (five years ago) Permalink

i met the jawbox dude that was living here several times at parties and got all shoestarey every time to avoid being THAT DUDE and getting all slobbery abt how awesome they were

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:13 (five years ago) Permalink

oh yeah wasn't he in a band here the Millions or something? i sadly never got out to see them

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:27 (five years ago) Permalink

he played w/tom in some project as well which would have been fucking rad but i dont think they ever played out

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:32 (five years ago) Permalink

oh shit that would've been some serious chops in the rhythm section

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 23:34 (five years ago) Permalink

that was awesome, whiney!

the endless white snow has never felt more textile (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 4 May 2012 05:35 (four years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

Are Poptimists still into it?

What should a Poptimist check out?

Odysseus, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm waiting for the day for Lex to embrace a metal band.

MarkoP, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Babymetal didn't even tempt him.

Odysseus, Thursday, 9 February 2017 23:08 (two months ago) Permalink

I could see him liking Myrkur or Darkher maybe

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 01:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Astronoid?

o. nate, Friday, 10 February 2017 01:42 (two months ago) Permalink

hell no

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 01:53 (two months ago) Permalink

v pompous drumming, for starters

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 01:53 (two months ago) Permalink

I think there would be more chance of Lex liking a metal band than Tuomas

Odysseus, Friday, 10 February 2017 08:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Myrkur's not a bad choice actually. It's like Tori Amos's idea of black metal

steely dad (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 10 February 2017 09:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Did Lex like the last Chelsea Wolfe album?

steely dad (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 10 February 2017 09:09 (two months ago) Permalink

yup iirc

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 11:08 (two months ago) Permalink

I think so. He liked Swans too (i know they're not metal but...) Lex isn't as closeminded as some think. If you give a good description of what it's like and why he might like it he will give it a listen. He listened to some pfunk I sent his way one time.

If someone whose tastes he respects likes something he will also give it a try.

Odysseus, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:29 (two months ago) Permalink

i listened to Sepultura Roots recently and fell in love with it, based on Whiney's recommendation in a similar thread (something about Groovy metal bands) can anyone recommend me more stuff like that

flopson, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:38 (two months ago) Permalink

I cant as I hated groove metal especially Pantera and the like (Though i never saw Sepultura in that mould) but I guess plenty here could recommend you what they liked.

Odysseus, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Corrosion Of Conformity were great and I think their pepper era stuff does count but is really good.

Some bands listed here like Mastodon and Meshuggah are def not groove metal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_groove_metal_bands
Prong I think mightve gone in that direction but it was not their good stuff.

Odysseus, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:53 (two months ago) Permalink

early lamb of god was really great until they went groove metal imo

Odysseus, Friday, 10 February 2017 11:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Roots is excellent in parts. Far Beyond Driven is probably the Pantera album to go for in the groove-metal vein. From that wiki list, Clutch are good, i suppose. White Zombie aren't listed but aren't a million miles away.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Friday, 10 February 2017 13:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Myrkur's not a bad choice actually. It's like Tori Amos's idea of black metal

― steely dad (Drugs A. Money)

based on "mausoleum" i'd say it's more lorena mckennit's idea of black metal!

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 10 February 2017 13:44 (two months ago) Permalink

or dead can dance, i can't decide

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 10 February 2017 13:45 (two months ago) Permalink

You might enjoy Sep's Chaos AD as well, more of a straight metal album but starting to incorporate the influences foun in Roots.

chap, Friday, 10 February 2017 14:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I would also look up Soulfly which is the band Max C started to follow up on Roots.

Not the same thing but Clutch's Transnational Speedway League is an absolute classic. I did not even realize Clutch had 12 albums! I'm prob way overdue to tackle their whole discography.

steely dad (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:00 (two months ago) Permalink

That was their best album imo but also an anomaly in their discography as it was more post-hardcore than the stoner rock they became famous for

Odysseus, Friday, 10 February 2017 19:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Myrkur's not a bad choice actually. It's like Tori Amos's idea of black metal

― steely dad (Drugs A. Money)

based on "mausoleum" i'd say it's more lorena mckennit's idea of black metal!

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, February 10, 2017 6:44 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or dead can dance, i can't decide

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, February 10, 2017 6:45 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wish i liked myrkur more bc all of these descriptions make her music sound like it's Perfect

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:12 (two months ago) Permalink

I did not even realize Clutch had 12 albums! I'm prob way overdue to tackle their whole discography.

Pick one at random. They're all exactly the same.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:21 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the *sounds* of Myrkur but a lot of her album sounds half-finished

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 10 February 2017 19:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah I mean I thought the album was a solid B-minus but theoretically Lex wd be looking for different things out of BM than I would

steely dad (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:33 (two months ago) Permalink

the record i heard was "mausoleum" which is her and a choir in a crypt, no metal at all. i guess it's not typical of her? but it sounds better than when she tries to do the black metal thing.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:38 (two months ago) Permalink

She should collaborate with Mesarthim on her next album

steely dad (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 11 February 2017 08:23 (two months ago) Permalink

oh btw the answer to this thread is blood command

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 February 2017 14:58 (two months ago) Permalink

maybe

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 February 2017 14:59 (two months ago) Permalink

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 February 2017 14:59 (two months ago) Permalink

xps- i kinda figured a good groove metal album is some lightning in a bottle shit, and Roots was a 'one good album in an otherwise meritless genre' situation but i'll check some of these out, thx. enjoying Clutch rn, this music makes me lol but in a good way

flopson, Saturday, 11 February 2017 15:46 (two months ago) Permalink


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