the landfill that time forgot: crap uk bands of 00s/10s

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

http://i.imgur.com/oAHGX.jpg

Poll Results

OptionVotes
scouting for girls 20
mumford and sons 11
toploader 9
the futureheads 7
biffy clyro 7
razorlight 6
florence and the machine 5
the stereophonics 5
snow patrol 4
the fratellis 4
kasabian 4
kaiser chiefs 4
the kooks 3
joe lean and the jing jang jong 3
hard-fi 3
babyshambles 3
the zutons 2
the twang 2
hundred reasons 2
keane 2
the courteeners 2
starsailor 2
the cribs 1
noah and the whale 1
the ordinary boys 1
the hoosiers 1
the magic numbers 0
the enemy 0
the wombats 0
the view 0
the feeling 0
the rakes 0
the others 0
pigeon detectives 0
athlete 0


nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh God.

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Are we voting for redeeming features, heartfelt loathing or comedy value?

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

heartfelt loathing or comedy value

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

thankfully haven't knowingly heard anything by at least half of these.

ledge, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

The Automatic seems like an important omission. They had that song.

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i am now actively trying to remember a song that i despise and would rather not give any more headroom to, just to figure out which of these fuckers is responsible

ledge, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I always thought The Hoosiers were American for some reason.

nate woolls, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Scouting For Girls are the shittiest band here, by a long way.

nate woolls, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

The Automatic seems like an important omission. They had that song.

― Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

I think I might like that song more than any song from any of these jokers.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I always thought The Hoosiers were American for some reason.

almost got ^these guys confused with Hooters who are not at all the worst thing ever...

kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually Kaiser chiefs had a couple of decent choruses.

The Hoosiers are such a bunch of twats.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Hang on, are we voting for the worst? That's kind of impossible.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^
Scouting for Girls make me forget doors exist. By the second chorus of "She's So Lovely", I'm generally found whipping around the room looking for a small table to throw through a window so I can escape.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

At least the Automatic were good enough to ensure they remained a simple novelty band by releasing just one silly song and never bothering anyone again.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf are the Futureheads doing here? Their first album was awesome from start to finish.

nate woolls, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

The View had a really good song on their second album called 5Rebecccas or something.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

It's quite impressive that even on a list containing Toploader, The Kooks and The View, Scouting For Girls are still the worst.

nate woolls, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Florence & The Machine do not belong here, should be no girls in this poll unless they're playing bass.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

athlete - CONTENDERS. Coldplay without the musical and lyrical savagery

babyshambles - couple of decent singles imo, clearly horrible people and fans but hey that's indie rock and roll

biffy clyro - CONTENDERS. I have never knowingly heard a Biffy Clyro song yet I can still smell them from here

florence and the machine - fucking horrible but hey sexism

hard-fi - don't really hate these much but remember I never read any music press or watch interviews ever

hundred reasons - don't remember much about them, some kind of comedy fake Metal band yeah?

joe lean and the jing jang jong - probably the biggest individual cunt on this cunt-packed list but fortunately never lived to inflict music on me. may have been some kind of LJ-ish performance art joke?

kaiser chiefs - CONTENDERS. Scum de la Scum, the sound of a service station convenience store on the M62 stamping on a human ear, forever

kasabian - CONTENDERS. Just enormous wonky tools, a cross between everything that's terrible about the Doors, Primal Scream and Oasis bafflingly adored by blokes with indie haircuts who turned thirty last year

keane - soft target soft scoop shite, too pop and occasionally pleasant to win this thing

mumford and sons - CONTENDERS. I honestly thought at the time that I wd never see anything worse than the Levellers while I lived

noah and the whale - jesus who are these gobshites?

pigeon detectives - got nothing, assume they're shit, I've probably heard something by them on account of the fucking terrible indie disco in the Piper on a Friday

razorlight - I quite like that "Trouble in America" song for some reason, clearly nothing to do with the horribleness of these Ikea no-marks

scouting for girls - CONTENDERS. I honestly have mutilation fantasies about these. Angry, angry fans for some reason

snow patrol - I liked that one about standing up but the one about lying down is the worst "give me a cuddle and a mug of soup" pandering shite I've ever heard in all my life

starsailor - quite funny. in retrospect. it hurt at the time

the courteeners - great band name, great lads, hope to fuck I never hear what they sound like

the cribs - fuck knows

the enemy - I honestly really like "We'll Live and Die etc etc" sorry

the feeling - I honestly really like that fill my little teacup up song except the lyrics, sweet tune and arrangement imo

the fratellis - CONTENDERS. the cunt's cunts

the futureheads - yeah cheers for the Kate Bush cover you useless sub-XTC-when-they-was-shit twats

the hoosiers - in many ways I hate these more than Scatting for Girls but they are sort of too risible plus their fans are less angry. they should drown in slurry tho

the kooks - is this the buskers band? EVIL BEYOND FUCKING BELIEF if so

the magic numbers - pleasant sub-Beautiful South middle-aged couple music iirc, can't place them here

the ordinary boys - I think the dude's suffered enough

the others - fuck knows

the rakes - hey hey it's the Strokees

the stereophonics - CONTENDERS. honoured too many times for their services to the cause of evil to get my vote here. don't think the dude's suffered enough

the twang - fuck knows. assume they're no Blak Twang

the view - or are these the buskers twats? fuck knows tbh

the wombats - are some of these made up?

the zutons - fucking shit but at least they had a sax which means hey they're not the worst fucking shit

toploader - ONE HIT CONTENDERS. clearly need to die, but the ex has suffered enough imo

I've got to vote Scouting for Girls in the end, but there's a special circle of hell where this whole gang is the playlist and I regret all the mean things I've said and done

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

HArd to argue with SfG, but Chelsea Dagger is the shitehawk national anthem & may swing me to ver frats.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

glad I have never heard most of these bands.

skip, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't know why i'm doing this to myself... but maybe someone here can help me remember the terrible awful no-good song that was by one of these bands or someone like them. an xfm favourite a year or two ago, lyrical themes: don't be sad, you're still young, remember that time we took a record player somewhere and played some tunes, oh yeah that was top.

ledge, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

xps - I think the band that has annoyed me most often is actually The Fratellis.

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

the stereophonics - CONTENDERS. honoured too many times for their services to the cause of evil to get my vote here. don't think the dude's suffered enough

he did kill himself to be fair

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I was aware of that.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Holloways, Music Generator?

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

(an answer to ledge, that)

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

WHERE IS THE SCRIPT

Evan, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

xp that was it. thanks. "thanks". actually the name has not yet triggered any memory of the music, thank fuck.

ledge, Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

xp - The Script are Irish iirc.

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i have never heard scouting for girls or read anything about them. can someone explain why they are the worst please?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 17 February 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh.

Evan, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

God I hate the Script though.

Evan, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd forgotten all about The Zutons! (I guess that's probably for the best.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

hmmmm

i think both the first futureheads album and the first rakes album are classics (haven't listened to the latter in years tbh but i fucked heavy w/ it when i was 17)

i've enjoyed a number of songs by snow patrol, the cribs, and, yes, razorlight

they had that song: the zutons, the magic numbers, kaiser chiefs, keane & hard-fi (i used to bang that one joint that was on fifa 06, maybe it was "cash machine"?)

the band on here that i've heard the most shitty music by is kasabian, and i'd be tempted to vote for them but really i can vote for no one besides joe lean and the jing jang jong, from the shitty name right on down to the fact that they made the cover of NME and still never made an album

pigeon detectives & scouting for girls are runners up

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVLqo7C-WwA

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlMfV7A3V00

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oaOQ1cQwt4

Somehow, for me, The Killers made the song that even more than "Chelsea Dagger" sums up everything that this tremendous movement stands for.

It's a black hole of shite and terror.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

bands on this list i have knowingly heard:

babyshambles - horrible
florence and the machine - not my thing, but she doesn't belong in a UK indie landfill poll
kaiser chiefs - horrible, but not as bad as several of the others
kasabian - horrible
keane - horrible
mumford and sons - what the fucking fuck
snow patrol - horrible
the cribs - lol johnny marr
the futureheads - not actively offensive
the magic numbers - not actively offensive
the stereophonics - horrible

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

voted mumford & sons

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

wow i had no idea the killers had a song called "indie rock & roll" -- thank god i'm at work and have no way of listening to it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

the wombats & the courteneers really bring me back to the time in high school where i used to read nme irl

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I first heard the Killers track in a friend's car on a landfill compilation and assumed it was by one of the tossers on the list until I looked it up.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Being completely candid, even though seeing the names listed like this makes my heart feel heavy and grey:

Like one song by: Athlete (1st album), Florence, Hard-Fi, Kasabian, Keane, Starsailor, Futureheads, Magic Numbers, Twang, View
Like a whole album by: Babyshambles, Rakes, Kaiser Chiefs

Voted Toploader.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Magic Numbers don't bother me at all, they're sweet overweight aging hippies who like to sing pleasant vocal harmonies.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

you know who belonged on here even tho I liked a couple of their songs? Maximo Park

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Shiteness rating out of 10

ATHLETE - 9/10: really this is the point where post-Coldplay bands just started taking the piss. Also I think they were technically Christian rock.
BABYSHAMBLES - 7/10: Probably the worst live band I have ever seen but they get a couple of points taking off for car crash/amusement value.
BIFFY CLYRO - 7/10: Would probably be higher if I'd had more exposure to their fans and/or been to Reading in 10 years.
FLORENCE AND THE MACHINE - 4/10 - bit too much in the star quality stakes, also a couple of alright songs.
HARD-FI - 6/10 - awful clumsy shit but they get a couple of points knocked off because Hard To Beat was quite a good song, and they weren't the Ordinary Boys.
HUNDRED REASONS - 5/10 - too past-it and lol to be serious contenders here
JOE LEAN AND THE JING JANG JONG - 7/10 - obviously woeful but everybody knew it
KAISER CHIEFS - 10/10 genuine contenders
KASABIAN - 10/10 genuine contenders, also worst fans ever
KEANE - 2/10 basically too inoffensive
MUMFORD & CUNTS - 20/10
NOAH AND THE WHALE - 5/10 - no one can seriously vote for them when Mumford & Sons exist
PIGEON DETECTIVES - 10/10 worst shit ever
RAZORLIGHT - 10/10 also maybe more for Johnny Borrell factor
SCOUTING FOR GIRLS - 11/10 she's so luvverly, she's so luvverly, she's so luvverly, she's so luvverly, she's so luvverly, she's so luvverly, she's so luvverly, she's so luvverly
SNOW PATROL - 9/10 - they get a point knocked off for making DJ Martian so angry
STARSAILOR - 8/10 - obviously terrible but also kind of easy to ignore to matter how big they were
THE COURTEENERS - 6/10 - some Oasis shit, right?
THE CRIBS - 9/10, dude has one of the worst voices ever
THE ENEMY - can't even remember what they sounded like but I'll assume they were terrible so a straight 8/10
THE FEELING - I don't think I've actually knowingly heard one of their songs, 8/10 as I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt
THE FRATELLIS - 30/10 - Chelsea Dagger might be the worst thing that any of these bands have put out
THE FUTUREHEADS - 5/10 - feel a bit too credible to be here
THE HOOSIERS - 9/10, stupid name
THE KOOKS - 4/10 - hating on the Kooks feels a bit like hating on Keane, kneejerk "girls like this so it must be shit" hate
THE MAGIC NUMBERS - 5/10 - hilarious strop on Top of the Pops gives them a bit of leeway, also everyone's forgotten about them
THE ORDINARY BOYS - 10/10 - surely they were to 'ska' what Mumford & Sons are to 'folk'
THE OTHERS - honestly I have no idea what they sounded like but the sheer lack of ambition indicated by giving yourselves a name with absolutely no connotations whatsoever gets them a straight 10/10
THE RAKES - even Lethal Bizzle is probably embarassed about this lot now 8/10
THE STEREOPHONICS - okay they might actually rival Mumford & Sons 30/10
THE TWANG - 8/10 - fuck knows
THE VIEW - 9/10 - Cast more like
THE WOMBATS - 8/10 but at least they seem funny in retrospect
THE ZUTONS - 10/10 - die.
TOPLOADER - should fit in the Kooks/Keane mould except for the fact that Dancing In The Moonlight is one of the worst records ever made. 10/10

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i have the biffy clyro album with the woman masturbating on the front. i do not recall the name of the record but the image stuck. the singles off that were v good and i suspect continue to be so.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

xp re Maximo Park, yeah I'd put em around Cribs level, fine enough in themselves, but too close to the vortex not to get sucked in.

I was gonna vote for someone who may get a bit overlooked (suspect that there won't be too many hundred votes for the fucking Fratellis), but really I want this to be a Scouting for Girls landslide.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Never forget this atrocity. Watch this before voting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-oMHPZgKJc

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Futureheads wld sit more comfortably in some kind of tru-indie thing with The Young Knives, Mystery Jets etc. Minor mid-decade successes.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

You people are all giving The Rakes and The Cribs too much credit.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

THE KOOKS - 4/10

way too lenient.

"Well uh oh, oh I love her because she moves in her own way
Well uh oh, oh she ame oo my oh ust oo hear aout eye ay"

kill kill kill

ledge, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Toploader and Stereophonics are well out-of-time for this poll.

Mark G, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I believe the singer from Maximo park wore/wears a bowler hat, which is enough to ratchet up their score a few points. One of their songs wasn't too bad though, it had a jittery energy to it.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

i have never heard scouting for girls or read anything about them. can someone explain why they are the worst please?

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:59 AM (16 minutes ago)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Both Toploader and the Shitophonics had significant 2000 albums out, I reckon they qualify, and they're not synonymous with the previous decade in the way that, say, Oasis were.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe6coqAoDC0

^^^ Simultaneous nadir of two separate genres, which is quite an achievement.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Rakes' first album also had a lot of jittery energy and enough opacity to get them let off here, if you want to be For Real horrible you've gotta wear them hearts on your sleeves.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

We should judge this scientifically by sending the list as a questionnaire to Nick Clegg and asking him to tick off which ones he likes the best. Scouting For Girls would probably win due to repping for him.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

singles off first rakes album were great. next couple singles after were good too but then they ran out.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Kings of Leon really should be on this poll, it's what they would've wanted.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Like a lot of their work:
futureheads

Like one or two songs:
hard-fi
kaiser chiefs
kasabian
keane
razorlight
snow patrol
the feeling
the magic numbers
the zutons

Ho hum:
athlete
babyshambles
florence and the machine
starsailor
the cribs
the hoosiers
toploader

10th circle of hell:
biffy clyro
scouting for girls
the fratellis
the kooks
the ordinary boys
the stereophonics

Never knowingly heard:
hundred reasons
joe lean and the jing jang jong
mumford and sons
noah and the whale
pigeon detectives
the courteeners
the enemy
the others
the rakes
the twang
the view
the wombats

Voted Biffy Clyro.

Obese Pony-hating Liberal (Billy Dods), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to 'she's so lovely'... fuck

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Yes, the first Rakes album is so much better than most of the stuff here. They were at least trying to be clever and interesting. Though grindie was obviously a regrettable episode in this proud nation's history.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

We should judge this scientifically by sending the list as a questionnaire to Nick Clegg and asking him to tick off which ones he likes the best.

Polls on ILM are fucked up enough without introducing AV cheers

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

biffy clyro are really really awful and a(nother) stain on my country.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Do you know what's sad? Enter Shikari are better than all of these.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

There's definitely a difference between bands where I was lured in by one good single and then loss interest and ones (like the Kooks and Scouting for Girls) where I clearly remember encountering them for the first time and thinking, fuck this for a game of soldiers.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlMfV7A3V00

This is just the worst. If I had the choice between being forced to listen to this on repeat for eternity in hell and listening to She's So Lovely on repeat for eternity in hell I think I would probably plump for Scouting For Girls.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

If it was definitely one or the other I wd become a big-time god botherer tbh

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

she's so lovely vs dancing in the moonlight vs good enough (dodgy) which one would be the winner for worst song? Im guessing shes so lovely as its the most recent but those other 2 were the equivalent of their day.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

the answer is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew7Zkkucos8

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

'she's so luvverly' isn't even the worst SFG song, of the two i can remember. that one that got to #1 was even worse. about to give it a spin [via anachronistic phrases for playing music on spotify].

'dancing in the moonlight' pwns the fuck out of most of the songs named so far imo. could be a fucked up kneejerk nostalgia thing.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

were these bands worse than the 2nd & 3rd rate britpop bands of the 90s?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I found a copy of the original "Dancing in the moonlight", it's OK.

Good Enough has a couple of good bits in.

Leaving "She's so lovely", doesn't really enlarge on why except for "I think that she is beau-ti-fl"

Which is not exactly shakespear this.

Mark G, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

this poll is making me rifle thru my bottle stash, but it's not nostalgia

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

you know who belonged on here even tho I liked a couple of their songs? Maximo Park

― Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:08 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

i love love love this first album & also the first single from album 2

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

matt's rundown is killing me, A+

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

can someone please unban dom for this thread only

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

were these bands worse than the 2nd & 3rd rate britpop bands of the 90s?

Yeah come on, Cast and Shed Seven and Kula Shaker and the like had too many hilarious self-clowning moments. They were shit but I was glad they existed.

Rooster's debut single, "Come Get Some," reached the Top 10 in the UK Singles Chart in November 2004. Live shows saw the band improvising and extending songs; Neale often performed a four-minute-long drum solo during "Drag The Sunrise Down." Rooster were known to incorporate covers, such as, Cream's "Sunshine of Your Love," Free's "All Right Now," Jamiroquai's "Deeper Underground," Blackstreet's "No Diggity" and The Rolling Stone's "Satisfaction" into their live sets.

I bet that cover of No Diggity was... something.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Worst SFG song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9e7z9y5r2g

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

OH FUCK ROOSTER

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Re-poll

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god, from the first two bars of that song you know it's going to suck ass.

skip, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

example of a 2nd and 3rd rate britpop band plz.

Mark G, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

'she's so luvverly' isn't even the worst SFG song, of the two i can remember. that one that got to #1 was even worse.

actually i withdraw this comment. the #1 is just blander. you could probably ignore it, despite the stakeriness.

xp

lol i was going to mention rooster earlier but somehow had em pegged as a bustedwave tween act?

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Wd like to draw the jury's attention to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuwnzv9FzwM

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

xposts are KILLING here.

Mark G, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

The Hoosier's lead dwarf's face is very stabby

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, and:

Apparently, the Hoosiers are going to release the world's longest single, at 43 mins...

Mark G, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

OH FUCK ROOSTER

How many 'a load of old cock' jokes were made at the time?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I am looking forward to polling The Family Cat, The Senseless Things and the Mega City 4 in a couple of weeks.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

where is WBS

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

were these bands worse than the 2nd & 3rd rate britpop bands of the 90s?

Can't judge tbh. Last random 2nd-tierer i heard was Great Things by Echobelly, about a week ago. Sounded fine, cheered me a little to hear it but I am of that age now yknow. + at least there were some women were in the britpop bands.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

You'll be playing Salad next, woof.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

there's an American country song about reality TV stars etc. that reminds me of that SFG track but I'm luckily having trouble remembering the title or performer.

skip, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Say what you like about 2011's music scene but at least we only have one Mumford & Sons whereas from 2005-2008 at least half of these would be in the charts at any one time.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

toploader guy is a really terrible vocalist

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9mpDAJOPac

skip, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

k I've just made some fantastic cocktail of Bell's, Disaronno and Ginger Beer - let the memories commence

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

example of a 2nd and 3rd rate britpop band plz.

― Mark G,

Powder, though they may be 5th rate. Northern Uproar? Ocean Colour Scene?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

THE FRATELLIS - 30/10 - Chelsea Dagger might be the worst thing that any of these bands have put out

OTM. Ubiquity is a strong factor here - everyone stopped caring about The Enemy etc. very quickly, but The Fratelli pollution lingers.

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Though I would take Menswe@r over every band here

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

xps

haha cannot remember a note of their music, but am able to spell and picture Marijne van der Vlugt very easily.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Fuck I've just seen the Pigeon Detectives. Why were bubble perms suddenly an acceptable fashion statement for this scene?

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Northern Uproar made a couple of singles, I bought one, can't remember it.

OCS woe. never did

Mark G, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Though I would take Menswe@r over every band here

Quite.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to the hoosiers, im thinking, why the fuck did i not form a band? could've been making serious scrilla if i'd spent just half my ilx time on trying to sound like these muppets.

haha cannot remember a note of their music, but am able to spell and picture Marijne van der Vlugt very easily.

― portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, February 17, 2011 4:36 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark

loool

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

THE FRATELLIS - 30/10 - Chelsea Dagger might be the worst thing that any of these bands have put out

OTM. Ubiquity is a strong factor here - everyone stopped caring about The Enemy etc. very quickly, but The Fratelli pollution lingers.

Why i could never go to a big football match in scotland ever again. One of many reasons to avoid Hampden internationals is that they play this after goals and before and after the games.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Singles from 'Drink Me' were fab, can't remember the album. It's on spotify so will have to check it out in the name of research.

Obese Pony-hating Liberal (Billy Dods), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

You'll be playing Salad next, woof.

last.fm played "Drink the Elixir" at me just today! I still kinda like it. And still refuse to acknowledge that they had any other songs. (Did they?)

Similarly for Silver Sun and "Lava", except last.fm has never played that at me, I just get drunk enough to youtube it sometimes. (Don't actually watch the video tho, or they'll seem as punchable as everyone on this list.)

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

a Britpop landfill poll is gonna be tarnished with accusations of sexism simply because there were a bunch of terrible fucking bands with women in them

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Who was the band responsible for that "what's that coming over the hill is it a monster?" song? That is one vile inescapable song almost as bad as that fratellis/dodgy/toploader shit

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Toploader - I can't imagine any of these other bands causing my bile to rise so quickly just at the mention of their name 12 years after their biggest hit.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I think there may need to be a separate thread for 'unusual details from wikipedia' about all these bands. Thus for the Fratellis:

They played their first show on 4 March 2005 in the O'Henry's bar in Glasgow across the road from the famous Horseshoe bar.

...

Mince has joined a heavy metal band called Throne o' Diablo and is regularly performing with them and recording material

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

monster = Automatic.

Mark G, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Roffle:

http://www.throneodiablo.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x3B_m-r-9M

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Right then. I'm going to make every effort to find redeeming features. If I find one, they're out.

athlete - Genuinely liked the third album, plus one of them gave me an excellent interview.

babyshambles - CONTENDERS
biffy clyro - CONTENDERS

florence and the machine - Good XX remix of "You Got The Love". Hate everything else she's done, and not remotely convinced by her live show. I'm not a big one for actual HATING, but I absolutely HATE this. CONTENDERS.

hard-fi - LOVE "Hard To Beat".
hundred reasons - never heard

joe lean and the jing jang jong - Redeemed by comedy value/so-bad-it's-entertaining-ness, but they are quite possibly the worst band of the 2000s. Then again, good drummer. Could never understand why he stuck with them.

kaiser chiefs - I've seen them live. They entertained, after a fashion. But then again, HATE HATE HATE "Ruby" beyond all reason. CONTENDERS.

kasabian - Quite liked "Empire" and "Fire".

keane - Actually LOVE a couple of their singles.

mumford and sons - I've moved from indifference to HATE in the past few weeks. Not sure how much of it is their fault, as opposed to what they have come to represent, which is largely out of their control.

noah and the whale - Don't mind them in small doses.

pigeon detectives - Accidentally saw them at a festival, didn't hate them. They were last minute stand-ins, playing to the wrong crowd, but they did an OK job in winning people over.

razorlight - There was one song that I didn't mind. Ludicrous front man, obv.

scouting for girls - I once spent an evening "hanging out" with the singer. He was thoroughly pleasant company, so I can't hate.

snow patrol - Grudging respect, up to a point. They shouldn't be on here, though. HELLO, THEY ARE IRISH.

starsailor - Indifference rather than hate.
the courteeners - never heard
the cribs - See Starsailor.
the enemy - never heard

the feeling - Moderately fond. Actually very enjoyable live. Fancied Dan something rotten.

the fratellis - I *like* "Chelsea Dagger"!

the futureheads - Started great, got boring. But they *were* great, for a while.

the hoosiers - I can live with them. My nieces loved them, and so I associate them with happy family gatherings.

the kooks - Awful, but the guitarist has his moments. See also: drummer out of the Jing Jang Jong.

the magic numbers - Car-crash of a live show, just over a year ago. Really took a dislike to Romeo. But the odd serviceable tune, for all that.

the ordinary boys - Quite fun live. Phill Jupitus sang "Boys Will Be Boys". Then BB happened. Almost contenders, but not quite.

the others - Utterly utterly shit, but commercial failures, so they have been punished enough.

the rakes - never heard
the stereophonics - HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE. But I think of them more of a 90s band.
the twang - never heard

the view - Quiet liked the one about jeans.
the wombats - never heard
the zutons - dull dull dull, almost contenders, but others are more deserving.

toploader - Our former next door neighbours' daughter's boyfriend ran the studio where they tried (and failed) to follow up the first album. So we are like brothers, really. It wouldn't be fair.

Contenders: Babyshambles, Biffy Clyro, Florence & the Machine, Kaiser Chiefs.

Voting for... BABYSHAMBLES!

mike t-diva, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

it seems like an especially cruel fate that this crap is popular at your sporting events

at least we get stuck w/ the black eyed peas -- slightly less cruel imo

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Ludicrous front man, obv.

^this might be the best one sentence summation of british indie rock 05-08 for various reasons

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Most of the female-fronted Britpop bands were at least passable though, except Sleeper obviously.

That Automatic song has at least inspired some good football chants, especially one particularly delightful one for Steven Gerrard.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

surprised that this shit is played at football matches coz it all seems kind of studenty to me? is this a symptom of 'football's hijack by the middle classes'?

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Ludicrous front man, obv.

^this might be the best one sentence summation of british indie rock 05-08 for various reasons

I dunno, one thing that's apparent when you look at this list is the interchangeability of most of the singers.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

surprised that this shit is played at football matches coz it all seems kind of studenty to me? is this a symptom of 'football's hijack by the middle classes'?

In one word, yes. But in several words, also the upper working classification of this strain of landfill indie from Britpop on.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

First result for GIS of 'ludicrous front man':

http://www.burninglodge.com/images/BL-Buffalo.jpg

Chris Martin was third, Billy Corgan tenth.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf are the Futureheads doing here? Their first album was awesome from start to finish.

― nate woolls, Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

^^ & second album was unjustly ignored. The Futureheads: secretly the best of the early-to-mid 00s post-punk revivalists.

Myers and the Obese Olympics triceratops climbing event (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Chelsea Dagger's "Badarap - badarap - badabadabadarap" seems to cut drunkenly across all divisions of class and gender.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Not race tho.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

NO WAY do The Futureheads belong on here, the first album is brilliant. Much of the horsecrap on here is faux-indie careerist bollocks and there's plenty that still sounds great on there.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Toploader really are in a class of their own, which is saying a lot, considering the competition. They failed at being the UK equivalent of Smash Mouth, which is just..

Myers and the Obese Olympics triceratops climbing event (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I really cant not vote for toploader

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Of this list, I only own the first few albums from Snow Patrol, and I really liked them until they found a flaccid formula and decided to go for the dosh. Bully for them. I still dig the first two albums particularly, got to see them in a small club in Boston and they were great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 17 February 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Always associate Toploader with Jamie Oliver for some reason, which doesn't help their cause.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Much of the horsecrap on here is faux-indie careerist bollocks and there's plenty that still sounds great on there.

PRO TIP: this mayn't be the thread for you

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Another Futureheads fan here. First album is unfuckwithable. I saw them at the ICA in London the year that came out and it was incredible. Acutally saw them last year and while the newer stuff isn't nearly as good, they're still a fun live band.

Also The Rakes. Fuck the haters. I still listen to the first album on the reg and I absolutely love it.

ENBB, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno, one thing that's apparent when you look at this list is the interchangeability of most of the singers.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:46 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

that's def intertwined w/ the ludicrousness tho imo

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

shd send out the southall bat-signal to get a snow patrol defence

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

swag enbb out

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I spent a couple years b/w the UK & Ireland at the very beginning of the decade. Of literally EVERY song I remember that was popular at the time, I consider the Toploader cover of 'Dancing in the Moonlight' to be the absolute worst. By a significant margin, even.

Myers and the Obese Olympics triceratops climbing event (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Southy's the Embrace defence league. But they're not on this,.

Mark G, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Futureheads still decent imo - Heartbeat Song prob my favourite bit of xfm-friendly indie-pop from last year.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

'dancing in the moonlight' has passed into 'harmless' territory, maybe that's a post-'four lions' thing. lotta these bands kind of oscillate between wet-blanketism and rapyeness. don't like either of those looks.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I SMELL A TAKING SIDES THREAD

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Proof we associate stereophonics with the 90s
WORST SONG Of These Mid To Late 90s UK Bands

I think if someone redid the poll now they would still win it.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

No Elbow, no credibility-less-ness.

> Are we voting for redeeming features, heartfelt loathing or comedy value?
> ― Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, February 17, 2011 3:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Dunno, I haven't heard them (badum-tish).

Wow, I'd thought Scouting for Girls were indie landfill, not Buggles x Vengaboys. Also, what's indie landfill about Toploader? Van Morrison-lite American funk-soul-pop landfill cover version (Counting Crows et al).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMc8naeeSS8

superflyguy, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

thought this would be mumford easily, even tho the fratellis song is the worst of any of this shit, like i don't think i've knowlingly heard 60% of them but that reprehensible thing hs got everywere [via memetic facility of DUH DUH DUH]

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm gonna vote for hundreds reasons cos i think one of my friends shagged one of them. coulda been some other kingston emo band tho..still

i got a thing for swag cru and i can't let go (tpp), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Ugh, Mr Writer and Place Your Hands. Saddened by the 3 people who voted for Dubstar in that poll though. Savages.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

ver phonics were both late 90s and early 00s really. 'dakota' got to number one in 2005. but most of these bands are kinda post-new rock revolution so they don't really fit.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not sure I've heard Mumford & Sons knowingly btw. Post a youtube of their best known song please

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISqznIvtZOk

this is a good song

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

taking your word for it

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Fire by Kasabian has just come on the office stereo. I am enjoying it, fu haterz

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

WOOO OOOO OOO OOOOOO OOO OOOO OOO OOO OOOOOOOOOOO

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

snow patrol are from northern ireland arent they? so they still fit in this poll.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

con-tro-ver-sy

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

either way they are Scotland based iirc so that'll do

probably still lying on the M90 somewhere waiting for a cuggle

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link

impressive geographical distribution of mid00s lumpen crap compared to say the recent cajun-penate-florence-mumfordwave london private school shit

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Southy's the Embrace defence league. But they're not on this,.

Embrace were OG Radiohead-Lite & should not be here in the absence of Colplay & Travis.

Shouldn't Terris be on the roster tho?

Myers and the Obese Olympics triceratops climbing event (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Southy's the Embrace defence league.

Better not try marching through his town with EDL banners

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

impressive geographical distribution of mid00s lumpen crap compared to say the recent cajun-penate-florence-mumfordwave london private school shit

last hoorah of labels being able to afford to send A&Rs around the country rather than just contact their ex-schoolmates on Facebook

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link

guess u could do regional heats

w scotland - fratellis
e scotland - the view
ne - futureheads?
nw - the zutons
midlands - the twang
london - joe lean etc
home counties - hard-fi
sw - ???

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Embrace were OG Radiohead-Lite & should not be here in the absence of Colplay & Travis.

not exactly -- embrace were solidly post-oasis anthemic northern rock. coldplay and travis were designated post-radiohead... post-'high and dry' radiohead i guess.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Hoosiers sw iirc

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

shit that should be

east mids - kasabian
west mids - the twang

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Terris don't really belong here, they really sit alongside My Vitriol and JJ72 and the likes when it comes to failed 2000 attempts to guess the future of rock.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link

couple of missing entries : tiny dancers, the maccabees

TD being one of the last bands that EMI spunked a wad of cash on (v. nice promos/pacakaging etc) prior to the labels fall from grace-n-favour, only for no-one to give a shit, as the album bombed out of sight (but at least it got released unlike joe jing jang wrong)

mark e, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

what about editors?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Editors are too tasteful, not landfill enough. Ditto Elbow. Both are dull as hell obviously.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I used to see people I knew wearing Editors tshirts but I cant remember a single song by them.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

"Love Will Tear Us Apart" was their big hit I think

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

can someone post a youtube of mumford & sons biggest song to see if i know it please?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT54Er0a7nQ

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Oops, wrong Mumford. Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLJf9qJHR3E

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

That guy's got this really annoying David Gray way of singing those verses.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

The whole enterprise is like 4 David Grays in search of a kicking

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

especially one particularly delightful one for Steven Gerrard

don't think I know this. Will hazard a guess at "who's that coming over your wife, it's Krissy Commons".

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Top of the many detestable things in that video is the face pulled by King Mumford at 1:28. He looks like he's trying to scare a small child with his monster face.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

What reads to their fans as passion seems like pure ham to me.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

anyone who makes it to 1:28 deserves whatever they get

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

NB: I don't hate Scumford and Co because they're not "real" enough. It's because they're shite.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh sure, but a hammy idea of "real" is what they're selling and part of what makes them shite.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxxxxxp it's like that bit from Black Books where Fran asks Bernard to sing an Irish song and he says "no, sing it yourself", so she improvises some cod faux-Irish bollocks.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think I know this. Will hazard a guess at "who's that coming over your wife, it's Krissy Commons".

― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:40 (4 minutes ago)

i never even knew the tune was by a landfill staple, in any case it's

who's that coming over your girlfriend, is it a gangster, is it a gangster?

iirc

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

couple of missing entries : tiny dancers, the maccabees

Maccabees are gr8, u mad

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

the zutons - fucking shit but at least they had a sax which means hey they're not the worst fucking shit

u mad

can't imagine how bad landfill AND saxophones together could be

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

sax is great you fule

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

not heard that mumford song at all, but i had expected them to have a fiddle player.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

They do look like a bunch of fiddlers, 'tis true.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

nae fuckin way it's the worst thing ever

there are records by the stooges and anton webern ruined by the presence of saxophones

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp To compensate they have a banjo player and a keyboard player who only seems to know one chord.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lol sax haters are crazy *tap tap tap*

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

thought it was basically known at this point that liking sax is a side effect of those court ordered chemical castration injections

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeeLLuFK09I

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

thought it was basically known at this point that liking sax is a side effect of those court ordered chemical castration injections

― nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this is a really 90s meme man

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

kate bush even has a 'saxophone song'. qed.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

aw youmeatsix changed their name, my hilarious you meat six jokes are obsolete.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

talk of Terris reminded me of seeing them play 1.5 songs, have horrible sound problems, get into a bit of handbags, and then apparently split up, at this Reading Festival:

http://i51.tinypic.com/j9a45y.jpg

these festival posters are fascinating because they are a great reminder of all of the dross that your mind has let you forget, but it is crazy looking back at the bands that were actually there that i have no recollection of.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

e.g. black eyes peas headlining 3rd stage at 2000. who knew?

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

just going through the xfm playlist, idk what genre that chiddy is

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXwYJyrKK5A

sort of wonder if foals should have been itp even tho they weren't that landfill

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

LOFIDELITY ALLSTARS
THE LIVING END

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Like the Futureheads, Foals are way too smart for this list.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

KING ADORA + THE STROKES

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Mumford & Sons remind me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDrWLIW4eyM

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

If you'd put Foals in, you'd need Bloc Party too.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Strokes bumped to the main stage @ that festival in timely wave of NME hype you may/may not recall.

Lo-Fi Allstars were p good, and were good on that occasion too.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah foals aren't a great fit with the view etc, but still pretty bad

they're a great example of earnest young musical types who can't think outside of thudding gtr indie tramlines

YEAH IT'S NOT ACTUALLY INDIE, IT'S MNML TECHNO WITH REAL INSTRUMENTS

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Scouting for Girls are the worst, but don't belong among this lot - they're still popular, for a start.

if, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread is rapidly turning into "Innocuous crap uk bands that make you irrationally angry (a poll thread)"

also, foals are gr8 too, fuiud

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

thought it was basically known at this point that liking sax is a side effect of those court ordered chemical castration injections

― nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 17:57 (1 minute ago

RONG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq85HXxrYrc

Kind of sad to contemplate the diff between this 5th on the bill at 1971 Reading brit band with the 5th on the bill @ reading landfill listed above. (maybe I'm only going to convince NV w/this argument, IDK)

Pashmina, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

who can say what's true any more in this crazy mixed up "Foals are great" world, Pash?

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

athlete: Pro: nothing. Con: vocalist v v irritating, bad slack playing on the rekkids I heard on radio back in the day
babyshambles: Pro: nothing. Con: total sinkhole of shitness w no redeeming qualities whatsoever CONTENDER
biffy clyro: have heard this but cannot remember a single thing, not even what it sounded like
florence and the machine: Pro: find singer attractive. Con: totally unmemorable, watched several youtubes, no memory at all of even what it sounded like
hard-fi: Pro: did actually rock, one of their singles was 1/2 decent IIRC. Con: not very memorable
hundred reasons: never heard them or can't remember then anyway
joe lean and the jing jang jong: have heard them but left no mark on my memory whatsoever.
kaiser chiefs: Pro: kind of liked the single or at least until heavy rotation made me sick of it. Con: none really, they weren't THAT bad.
kasabian: No memory of what these sounded like
keane: Pro: sounded pleasant on the radio once ior twice. Con: cannot remember any of their tunes, despite hearing at least one of them enough times.
mumford and sons: Pro: nothing. Con: Awful, awful music, CONTENDER.
noah and the whale: Pro: nothing Con: irritating sounding band IIRC. can barely remember them.
pigeon detectives: Who?
razorlight: Remember these getting some heavy airplay, cannot even remember what they sounded like.
scouting for girls: Pro: Nothing. Con: Shit, clunky music, shit tunes, creepy lyrics delivered by creepy singer, ugh WINNER
snow patrol: Passed through leaving no impression whatsoever.
starsailor: No memory of what this band even sounded like.
the courteeners: Vaguely remember the name, never heard the band.
the cribs: who?
the enemy: Who?
the feeling: Pro: can actually remember what their single went like. Con: I didn't like it, it was sappy.
the fratellis: Pro: nothing. Con: annoying sounding band CONTENDER
the futureheads: Never actually heard these.
the hoosiers: Pro: nothing. Con: Record was shit, only memorable bit was nicked off ELO anyway.
the kooks: Never heard these
the magic numbers: Pro: one of their singles was pleasant enough, find female member w long hair attractive. Con: nothing really, they were not all that bad I suppose.
the ordinary boys: Who?
the others: Who?
the rakes: Who?
the stereophonics: Band from an older gen? Don't feel like they belong here somehow. Awful, anyway.
the twang: Heard of these today, watched clip on youtube, have forgotten what it sounded like already.
the view: who?
the wombats: there used to ne a local pub blues band up here w/this name, I doubt this is them. Never heard of them.
the zutons: Never heard them
toploader: likewise stereophonics

If one of these bands had written or performed on tune that I can remember in it's entirety I would have more time for them even if I didn't like the tune. A lot of these bands get props for their songwriting skillz in their publicity doggerel IIRC? Should be prosecuted under the trades description act. If I were managing a 00's/10's landfill act I would tell them to fuck off with writing anything and get them to cover Harry Warren tunes.

Pashmina, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I was expecting real crappy uk bands. Almost all of these bands have one or two singles which I would deem decent or good. Nothing particulary groundbreaking and can't vouch for any of their albums tho so...

Are we voting the best one or the worst one?

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

the ordinary boys: Who?

They were the band that Preston from Celeb Big Brother was in.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

the following bands i can't bring to mind a single note, even in cases where i know i've heard song or songs by them dozens of times: hundred reasons, joe lean and the jing jang jong, starsailor, the courteeners, the others

ey that's less than i thought it would be. god bless my excellent use of memory. the only one that seems unreasonable is starsailor, but all i remember of how they sounded is MEW MEW MEW MEW MEW.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Favorite ones in here would probably be: hard-fi (the few songs I've heard sounded influenced by The Clash which is good in my book), the magic numbers, kasabian, the zutons and kaiser chiefs.

Worst ones for me would be: mumford and sons, keane and scouting for girls.

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

xp oh right, having looked at single releases, now i remember them. MEW MEW MEW MEW MEW was correct, though.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait... band that actually sounded influenced by The Clash was Harrisons. Only song I've heard of Hard-fi is 'hard to beat' which was good but not good enough to get me interested in them.

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

moka do u like the fratellis

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

moka do u like the fratellis

― nulty dread (nakhchivan)

They've got a couple of songs which bring back great memories (particulary 'chelsea dagger') of the year I was living in France. That song was played every now and then on rock clubs and parties around Montpellier and Barcelona in 2007. Not sure if I'd have enjoyed them by listening to them on my own...

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

lol that Reading poster Spiralli posted was the last one I, v probably ever, went to

I had a 'freakout' during Mercury Rev, not at all a voluntary one :(

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yerself is lmstrm

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yerself is lmstrm

― nulty dread (nakhchivan)

is that a comment for me? Don't know what the lmstrm acronym means.

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

no that was a mercury rev reference ;_;

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

athlete - this poll needs Delirious? imo
babyshambles - can't hate cos can't care
biffy clyro - one of them tried to crack on to my gf circa 2002
florence and the machine - doesn't know how to work an ipod iirc
hard-fi - my friend's brother's friend was friends with Hard-Fi, I think he is an aspie or something though
hundred reasons - bleh but shouldn't be here rly
joe lean and the jing jang jong - I am about two (2) ft away from a copy of their unreleased album as I type!!!!!
kaiser chiefs - the ILX thread about them hating poor ppl and women is good
kasabian - when they started they were marketed as these post-Boys Own kinda indie hippies who lived in the country and listened to Neu! - no-one but me remembers this tho
keane - I have another friend that looks like Tom Chaplin
mumford and sons - "this song's for Jemima who's about to go backpacking in India"
noah and the whale - are these guys 'big'?
pigeon detectives - Petridish going in on these might be his finest hour
razorlight - lol
scouting for girls - I gave their last album minus infinity out of five in the mag I work at
snow patrol - Ulster's finest Sebadoh tribute band iirc
starsailor - ...
the courteeners - am not from Manchester so have no opinion
the cribs - see Hundred Reasons
the enemy - Jon 'Gaunty' Gaunt
the feeling - Sophie 'Ellis' Bextor
the fratellis - is Chelsea Dagger really ubiquitous? I have never *knowingly* heard it
the futureheads - only in this cos of Hounds of Love right?
the hoosiers - couldn't name a song
the kooks - even Drowned in Sound scored points off these
the magic numbers - Meh-gic Numeh-bers morelike
the ordinary boys - wish I'd not started this now
the others - love that HMHB lyric about guerilla gigs
the rakes - I know ppl of ~refined taste~ who like these, w/e
the stereophonics - stay strong Mabel Cable
the twang - not endorsed by John Gaunt
the view - their last album was called 'Which Bitch?', feel like this needs to be noted
the wombats - these guys are actually rly popular on the quiet
the zutons - think I sold their first single for a decent sum
toploader - stay strong Gail Porter

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

kaiser chiefs - the ILX thread about them hating poor ppl and women is good

I'd forgotten about this, it was funny, yeh.

scouting for girls - I gave their last album minus infinity out of five in the mag I work at

Chortle.

lycanthrope electrif (Pashmina), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

wow I have never heard a note from any of these bands

well, that's not true I guess I've heard that Mumford and Sons single recently

never meant to heart anyone (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

looked up the dan hipgrave domestic journalism stuff earlier, gail porter now says that he categorically did not hit her and he does travel journalism for the daily mail

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

lol that was supposed to be domestic violence

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

can't reconcile those two statements tbh

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

even Drowned in Sound scored points off these

burn

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

kaiser chiefs - the ILX thread about them hating poor ppl and women is good

wd read

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Here:

Defend The Indefensible: The Lyrics to 'I Predict A Riot'

lycanthrope electrif (Pashmina), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

thx

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

The Futureheads and the Rakes are NOT crap, miles better than the other names on this list.

zeus, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

back in the day we could have attracted loads of random butthurt googlers, not just gone in-house

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

The Automatic / Gerrard chant I was familiar with is the utterly brutal "what's that coming out of your wife / is it a bastard, is it a bastard"

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I had never heard Scouting For Girls until just now.

They are truly more annoying than the most annoying thing i've ever heard, like unstoppable-urge-to-kill-rising-inside-me fucking aaggggh god make it stop

VegemiteGrrl, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Rooster - I am not going to listen to them ever again to find out, although I think I possibly once reviewed one of their singles by threatening to stab them, but they were like if Reef were less intelligent, rite?

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

As I recall it yes, or like the primordial ooze that Jet crawled out of?

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Agree that the Futureheads are too good to be here, don't really understand the same being said about the Rakes though

I kinda feel like the Arctic Monkeys are the stupid-regional-accented elephant shitting the room up here

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

FUCK

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

how come nobody thought of them

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

think there's an obvious reason

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

[Unnamed Editor] once asked me if I would be able to very quickly write 500 words about the manufactured nature of the Monkeys' rise to fame and whether or not that tied in with football hooliganism in any way

My answer was "probably not", and I will always regret that

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

the munkehs should at least have been nominated

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought i might like at least one song by one band on this list... but no. all terrible, good work!

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

athlete - iirc their second album cover looks like a hoover and that makes me think of lj and that makes me giggle.
babyshambles - POTENTIALLY THE BEST first album had some killer jams on it. dhoerty is a dick but at least a panto-dick.
biffy clyro - POTENTIALLY THE WORST lol smelly and welsh.
florence and the machine - broad can't sing, saved by that remix which is a cover of their cover iirc.
hard-fi - arrogant tuneless dickheads who thought they were gonna save music or something.
hundred reasons - you know if hundred reasons make it, other kerrang fodder like A should. A was a useful band name when wanting to google someone, I guess.
joe lean and the jing jang jong - A name to bring me out in lex pretend esque hives.
kaiser chiefs - saved by tv panel show chumminess, i guess, but their music is wank, ey.
kasabian - THE ACTUAL WORST not because of the Oasis fan base or the shit songs but because of the ridiculous pretentiousness that means nothing and somehow getting away with it, like wtf? why weren't you dropped for releasing something called... give me a second to wiki it... West Ryder Pauper Lunatic Asylum with *this* as the cover? http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51VVTBiHXKL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
keane - eh. kinda pleasant for people in their 50s; would be like having michael buble in the poll.
mumford and sons - afaik i've successfully not heard this band, not at uni anymore i guess. one of them is shagging laura marling tho, so she may have a good influence in the future?
noah and the whale - lol what?
pigeon detectives - hey guys its the libertines! oh wait no it isn't
razorlight - POTENTIALLY THE WORST although saved by being almost comatose at Reading Festival after like an ounce of weed, stumbling back to my tent with a friend, giggling insently at how loud the chants of *RAZORSHITE RAZORSHITE RAZORetc* were getting, only to not end until their set did. We were in the furthest away tenting area and still heard the whole thing :D
scouting for girls - POTENTIALLY THE WORST scott mills pop
snow patrol - I started buying Q before I bought the NME as a teenager. I think they happened to go through a run of cover stars who I liked (Em, Radiohead, Libertines, PJ Harvey although maybe not in that order or exactly 4 months in a row iirc). It was incredibly shit to read.
starsailor - Drawing a blank.
the courteeners - hey guys its the libertines! oh wait no it isn't
the cribs - THE BEST these guys are awesome, even if one of them stuck his dick inside the fanny of kate nash.
the enemy - drawing a blank
the feeling - isn't one of them shagging sophie ellis bexter? kudos to that guy and maybe she had a decent enough influence for some album tracks here or there?
the fratellis - POTENTIALLY THE WORST ARGH THE WANT TO BREAK THINGS. Only not the worst because they seem to have been forgotten in time.
the futureheads - POTENTIALLY THE BEST Hounds of Love could be my #1 of the decade, proper sound of my university education was that.
the hoosiers - more like whoosiers, amirite? i once saw a Hollyoaks storyline based around going to buy their first album on the day it came out - FACT. Dunno what they sound like though.
the kooks - the kooks more like the shit.
the magic numbers - fat people get offended when you call them fat, fyi.
the ordinary boys - reggae done by white boys in this day and age always NAGL
the others - remember being sat in sixth form with my friend paul weeing ourselves at an nme article based around the main dude in this talking about how subversive he is because he likes obscure BOOKS by osbcure writers like GEORGE ORWELL and how he loved to bang TRANNIES. years later I stopped having a crush on a girl I knew, not because of her massive coke problem or thick brummie accent but because she was wearing an others t-shirt. they were shit, obv.
the rakes - i know this band existed and i know i've heard them before but
the stereophonics - of the 00s?
the twang - anything to do with Blak Twang? Cos he was dope once upon a time. Responsible for Estelle, too.
the view - scottish, iirc?
the wombats - POTENTIALLY THE BEST these guys had some jams iirc. Moving To New York, Lets Dance To Joy Division, Kill The Director - all legitimate late 00s indie club classics.
the zutons - lol ws the girl.
toploader - of the 00s?

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Agree that the Futureheads are too good to be here, don't really understand the same being said about the Rakes though

I kinda feel like the Arctic Monkeys are the stupid-regional-accented elephant shitting the room up here

― MPx4A, Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:42 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

those guys are just landfill indie with a "heritage art-school" twist. mmmhhh, just like in ye olde post-punke days.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Arctics first album was wank but the second and third had some stuff worth saving. Once the unreasonable and hilarious hype died, they turned out to be alright.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link

let's celebrate this thread with a nice plastic pint pot of

http://www.duffyrafferty.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/carling-logo.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Are Kasabian really that bad? I thought of them as ok because I love the bass on this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76so3XRdgOU

Moka, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2650/3685747550_ccf45f1cc9.jpg

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

as i've yet to hear M&S and there seems to be a lot of general hate on here, anyone want to tell me whats up?

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

also toploader saved by Four Lions imo. could not do the same with Scouting For Girls or whoever.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Arctic Monkeys feel too big league to be on this poll, same reason the Libertines aren't here. Would probably have left Keane off as well.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

artic monkeys had something to say, man. about, like, how people who enjoy dancing and having fun are disgusting savages, yeah?

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 this thread imo

mencap is invaluable -- lol'd at a hoy hoy

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

the arctic monkeys are at least still making albums that some ppl care about + they kinda left this sound behind for the josh homme thing or w/e

plus their first album >>>>>>>>> any album by anyone on this list, still probably one of the 30 best records of the decade IMO -- also they were cool live

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

also that reading poster is so lo_Ol -- mostly still contemplating the comedy tent at a british music festival, need to let that one marinate for a while

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

2001s Reading Festival line-up looks like it could have been fun as hell - you'd see Malkmus followed by Roots Manuva? Fuck Yesh.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

also D12?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Making the Best of a Bad Job: a tolerable landfill playlist

Futureheads - Hounds of Love
Hard-Fi - Hard to Beat
The View - Superstar Tradesman
The Rakes - Retreat
Kaiser Chiefs - Modern Way
Kasabian - Me Plus One (Jacques Lu Cont Mix)
Starsailor - Four to the Floor (Thin White Duke Mix)
Florence & the Machine - You Got the Love (xx Remix)
Keane - The Lovers Are Losing
The Magic Numbers - Forever Lost
Babyshambles - Albion

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

even Drowned in Sound scored points off these

burn

― for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 19:22 (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

would love to see an american equiv list just for lols. would actually be worse imo.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

2001 Reading was the first festival I went to. The only things I can remember seeing are PJ Harvey and Moldy Peaches.

oppet, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

artic monkeys had something to say, man. about, like, how people who enjoy dancing and having fun are disgusting savages, yeah?

Not what their lyrics are saying at all. You must be thinking of the Arctic Strawmen.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

can do noms for an american versh itt if u like but

KINGS OF LEON

probably enough

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

America doesn't quite work in the same way, it's had other dodgy trends (nu-metal, Nickelback, virtually every guitar band Pitchfork has repped for in a decade) but not quite the same all-pervasive uselessness.

For some utterly bizarre reason I opted to go to the Saturday of that Reading festival. Can't even remember why given that Mogwai are the only band on that bill I'd have been particularly arsed about.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

You can't put remixes on your compilation, what unites most of these bands is a deep-set Luddism, either with the band or their fans. Presumably the reason the Klaxons aren't here.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

there's endless american shit too but it doesn't coalesce as easily around a single all-consuming landfill goatse like the uk stuff

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

isn't one of them shagging sophie ellis bexter? kudos to that guy

take notes p4k feebs, this is reviewing

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

wdn't have included the klaxons even if someone nominated them cuz they are the only uk indie band of the last decade i didn't hate

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, remixes are cheating I guess. Would happily sub Kasabian's Empire and Florence's Rabbit Heart. (Don't know why Florence is on the list TBH)

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

xp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

there are a few outliers in the nominations but the coherence is still impressive imo

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

athlete - kinda copped Coldplay's shtick mid career, right? Pretty shit. Saw them support Mansun as an idiot youth and they had a theremin freakout bit
babyshambles - we paid for blood imo
biffy clyro - funny shit, man
florence and the machine - tasteful but private school hhmmm
hard-fi - drunkenly pissing on a shop is really poignant when you think about it
hundred reasons - haha
joe lean and the jing jang jong - don't think this band existed?
kaiser chiefs - don't think I've ever heard this band
kasabian - that picture of all those old Oasis fans with haircuts their drooping faces could not support - should by rights be from Birmingham, but near enough I guess
keane - I think Southall wrote some good, possibly libelous shit about how this band's singer is a pisshead because he hates his own band so much?
mumford and sons - still haven't heard these but I think they are from private school and I trust y'all's judgement
noah and the whale - " "
pigeon detectives - ? This is a stupid name
razorlight - don't how get how dudes can get egomaniacal about writing songs which have so few characteristics
scouting for girls - Yes OK you have an accent, maybe put these kind of guys in a room with Jamie T and see if they manage to conjure up a glottal stop so large it destroys them all
snow patrol - credit to their endurance for staying awake long enough to finish recording that one song; think blueski once said this band's lead singer has a swimming pool in the shape of a swimming pool - I bet he loves to sensibly dive into it with his best friend, Stewart Downing
starsailor - funnily wimpy, got a half-decent JLC remix
the courteeners - ?
the cribs - I kind of imagine these guys being really heroically unintelligent in their daily lives, but in an entertaining, Terry Fuckwitt kinda way, you just keep doing your thing the Cribs
the enemy - don't think this band existed
the feeling - seemed to be really proud of themselves, but by rights the only people who should ever have paid any attention to them is members of their own family, filming their opening slot gig on a middle of the range camcorder in an otherwise deserted function room. Kind remind me of a guy at Uni who told me his band were "going in kind of a rock-y direction"
the fratellis - friend who worked at a HMV they did a signing at said they had minders to look after them, one of whom came up to him and warned him to make sure none of the staff pestered the Fratellis for autographs while they were having a pre-opening Fratellis-only shopping session; reportedly none of the staff had planned to do so because the Fratellis are shit twats
the futureheads - good bunch of lads imo
the hoosiers - the adverts where these guys were all like "apparently nobody's heard of us!!!" actually did make me want to kick their heads in
the kooks - think this band has curly hair? [a Google Image Search suggests that one of them actually has an unshowered boy version of Mira from Ladytron's haircut]
the magic numbers - [fat joke]
the ordinary boys - guy I went to school with did the reggae toast bit on one of their songs so not them
the others - chalk one up for the public on this one
the rakes - boring
the stereophonics - funny shit, man
the twang - Oh Bir-ming-ham! (Oh Bir-ming-ham!) Is full of fun!!! (is full of fun!!!)
the view - Probably just formed because they realised the name was still available?
the wombats - me neither
the zutons - ?
toploader - WHAT ABOUT RAVEN?

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Starsailor - Four to the Floor (Thin White Duke Mix)

Hahah this -- Futureheads excepted in that I need to relisten and see what I think -- was the one song I was thinking I might save from all these clods. Though Matt DC's point applies.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgGItLYyBQ0

<3

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

those were the days when indie was open to new influences, new thinking, new colours

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

is that the one that goes "I'm a skinny white limey but I like tings grimey"

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

meshug! wir haben die siemlich landfillishe TING TINGS in dem poll vergessen ;_;

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

nah the tingers are something else rly

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

"Bomb New Cross."
"But sir, Hadouken! aren't actually originally fr-"
"Do as I say."

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

tings were like landfill lectro kinda ting iirc

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

If I could nominate one american band for this, i would nominate ORSON

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ok go

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

About 75% of these bands would be top of a worst band ever poll individually, for me, but seeing them altogether is making me realise just how impressive Scouting For Girls actually are at being beyond shit.
Stereophonics were always the worst, until Toploader came along, then Starsailor (have a feeling their disgustingness is being overlooked amongst the strong competition - give that one about 'daddy was an alcoholic' another 'spin' because they are def. contenders), then the Feeling (the day PopJustice started acting as though they were 'just great pop music actually' is the day I stopped reading PJ), then Scouting for Girls have somehow managed to perfect the formula.

Not the real Village People, Thursday, 17 February 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted SFG in the end. Would like to see them go on from here to win the world cup of terrible.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

artic monkeys had something to say, man. about, like, how people who enjoy dancing and having fun are disgusting savages, yeah?

Not what their lyrics are saying at all. You must be thinking of the Arctic Strawmen.

― DL, Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:18 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

i know it was supposed to be more "complex" than that or w/e... but i dunno, can't stand the guys.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

ya apologists for that lot r p much scum

there is no good landfill

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah my america comment was for general landfill, whether nu metal or post-strokes p4k indie or etc.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

def think it's worth a american landfill metapoll tho

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

surely if there was a US landfill equivalent it would be the mall emo bands

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Memo

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

American waste:

Kings of Leon
Maroon 5
Orson
The Fray
Train
Lifehouse
The Calling
Nickelback
3 Doors Down
Matchbox 20
Hinder
The Killers
The Bravery
Hot Hot Heat

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Killers don't deserve to be there imo. And where is the numetal? Staind?

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey, add what you like, I don't really know about this stuff.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

that's a good start

ppl will want to vote for the killers

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Jing Jang Jongs of Leon and the Killers don't count cos nobody in their home nation gives a fuck about them?

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

WHICH IS WHY REALLY THEY BELONGED IN THIS LIST

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

uhm p sure they are more popular in america than most of this lot are in england

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

kings of leon and killers had hits over here

they're our problem i'm afraid

goole, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

both bands have a couple decent songs. KOLs had burned thru all of their good material in 2 EPs which was a shame for them.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Kings of Leon are like the most popular landfill band in the UK no question don't let's bust out the tribute band pics again

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

think blueski once said this band's lead singer has a swimming pool in the shape of a swimming pool

lmao this rules

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

nu metal had a kind of fifth form impropriety and goonishness to save it from total mediocrity. naff, yes... but not dull, really.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

ya i see what u mean nv but still, if we can't even make our own landfill indie we might as well rename ourselves malawi #gaunty

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

numetal for american poll shd be staind, mudvayne kinda stuff rather than the proto-goon clownstep stuff

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i think killers shouldn't count because they are kinda distinctive? whereas i heard the name death cab for cutie 4000 times in my life and still if i heard them on the radio i genuinely would not know it was them.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

can remem reading nme circa 2k2 wherein death cab were invoked as an 'obscure american band' placeholder

might have been in a jimmy eat world review

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

let's take the top 4 from this poll and then send them forward to the World Cup

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Australia looks like a tough opponent tbh.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Got faith in SfG's ability at the highest level

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

australia produces a lot of deplorable shite yes, but not in these kind of volumes.

charlie h, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Jet and the Vines make a hell of a pair upfront though. Both potential matchwinners imo.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTtPtcEM_Ng

kinda reminds me of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMRq1Z_WyTc

;_;

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Now I'm going to have to listen to "James Bond" :(

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

That was revolting. But I know what u mean!

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Bloody hell.

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Van Morrison-lite American funk-soul-pop landfill cover version (Counting Crows et al).

<3 this

Cunga, Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

disappointed to get to this thread so late :(

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

the others are the worst band to have ever existed imo

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

was thinking about you when nakh was moaning about saxes tbh :D

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I remember reading a lot about the Others, but I don't tihnk I heard anything by them. Sub Libertines shite, yes?

oppet, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

thread reminds me of that time in 2004 when I had enough money to read Mojo, Q, Uncut every month and read about a lot of these bands.

the interchangeable lead singer observation OTM

And I think I've only heard Mumford and Songs once. Can someone please link to their most notable offense to the human cochlea and the sensibilities of every good person?

Cunga, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Sub Libertines shite, yes?

extremely generous

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

was thinking about you when nakh was moaning about saxes tbh :D

hahaa

they have a time and a place

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I keep wanting to vote for SfG but then I get fucking Chelsea Dagger lurching round and round my head and it makes me want to vote for Fratellis but then I think at least that song is approaching a 'LOL shit indie football anthem' status and is therefore useful as a running gag/signifier of sorts while SfG aren't even interesting enough to manage that so maybe they are worse but OH SWEET CHRIST WHY ARE YOU MAKING ME FUCKING THINK ABOUT THIS.

oppet, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

"l'enfer c'est the others"
2 results (0.06 seconds)

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I still hear so many of these bands in terrible bars I get dragged to - a lot of people my age seem to think this really is the cream of the last decade of music, I don't know, it just makes me miserable being in a room full of people shouting along to 'Chelsea Dagger' or whatever.

Having said that, I've never ever heard Scouting For Girls in any sort of social setting and they're easily the worst thing here. Their chorus hooks are just so irritating, I really can't get my head around the total inability to come up with a single pleasing melody.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, the Others were the ones who 'invented' 'guerilla gigs'.

oppet, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

My main memory of The Others is of the singer being interviewed by Simon Amstell on Popworld and inventing the word 'spontanuity'.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link

"we've just been performing a guerilla gig/in the middle of another group's guerilla gig/surely that's the ultimate guerilla gig/but still they cried like girls"

MPx4A, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Flash-Forward: Black Wire

Black Wire are a gang of glam-punks with a taste for synth-stomping disco and a knack for causing chaos. Emma Warren admires the racket

* Emma Warren
* Observer Music Monthly, Sunday 17 October 2004 15.09 BST
* Article history

LEEDS'S GLAM-PUNK pretenders like to gig. Their love of sweat and the stage, though, does not extend to the newly fashionable practise of guerilla gigging, where bands play impromptu acoustic sets on public transport or in car parks. 'Just playing your guitar on a bus and annoying people is not a gig,' announces 22-year-old bass player Tom Greatorex, who is making very little fuss about a huge welt on his back, acquired while fighting with sticks in the woods during the OMM photoshoot. 'At gigs, you've got 25 minutes to convert people, to make them understand why they should love your band. We like messing around in flats but we've done it now and it's out of our system.'

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

that's the first ref in guardian archives strangely

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

guys the killers had a top 40 hit w/ their last album & brandon flowers' solo album went gold, there's many, many other bands that are more forgotten than them

like, the bravery sure, or hot hot heat

teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I really don't think The Kooks are getting enough hate. Even their name is a contrived, artificial and bland signifier of "exciting".

Being a Glasgow native I got a lot of stick for thinking The View and The Fratellis were one and the same, but how was I supposed to tell? This period of music (which was concurrent with my period as a university student and therefore a major reason why I'm so glad to be free of that horrible Carlsberg&Topman culture) makes me now actively avoid bands with names beginning "The".

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

it makes me feel v. old to know that student life is now synonymous with Carlsberg & Top Man

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I once got accused of not being "into" music by a girl who loves all this stuff. "How can you say you love gigs, you've never even been to the 02 or SECC or anything like that?"

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

xp used to be Tennant's Extra and C&A

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

used to be Diesel and Oxfam back in the day obv

which was equally reprehensible in its own sweet way

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I also remember getting serious lols at Starsailor's "check out our new dance direction" then hearing Four To The Floor and realising it was more of the same turgid dreck.

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's not even talk about Kasabian's whole back catalogue seems to consist of one breakbeat-style drum loop over a flat vocal going "aaaaah aaaaaah aaaaaah aaaaaah"

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Snakebite & yer grandad's cast-off's ftw

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

xp tbf they also have that one which sounds like a really shit indie band doing a really shit cover of a really shit song by the fucking doors.

oppet, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

My university years coincided with the popularity of proto-Landfill artists such as Travis, Ian Brown (solo), Richard Ashcroft (solo) and Feeder.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

feeder were the worst of that kinda 2k1 era iirc

the worst was that they didn't seem like terrible ppl so it felt wrong hating them as much they deserved to be hated

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't suffer enough imo

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't one of the die?

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

/RE E WIND

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

My university years were '92-'96, so basically all the shite bands ushered in by Oasis and Britpop.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I was '88 to '92 over here, we all just thought you were Manchester bands or shoegazers.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I went during the Wonderstuff/James/Inspirals dogshit era.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Sultans of Ping FFS

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw the Frank and Walters live, man

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

my uni years were the nu-metal era, so indie was sort of dead in the water as a commercial force at that point. a few people liked coldplay... strokes started getting a buzz in third year. easy to forget how people were writing this stuff off around 1999/2000.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I keep trying to remember it as being not as awful as it sounds, but then I remember having worm my way out of attending a Milburn gig and pretending to be a smoker to escape dancefloors at indie discos playing Marmaduke Duke

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Thursday, 17 February 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

these guys all had at least one song i really dug, more often than not it was their first or second single though

babyshambles
biffy clyro
hundred reasons
keane
pigeon detectives
the courteeners
the cribs
the futureheads
the magic numbers
the rakes
the wombats

i'll rep for the first rakes and cribs albums, i'd still happily give em a listen

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't heard any of these bands and I think I've only heard of maybe two or three. Are they all real?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

cribs are probably the best thing on this list really

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god. oh fucking hell. listening to SFG's '... james bond'. nothing is worse than this, perhaps ever.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

The Futureheads were ace and I will defend them voraciously.

The Cribs I never liked but at least use their position to help out awesome DIY bands and thus have the 'keeping it reals 4 lyfe' seal of approval from me.

Pretty much everyone else can die horribly. Or preferably be maimed in such a way that they can never pick up another instrument yet have to live for years in continual agony.

emil.y, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm regretting my Toploader vote now. Every SFG single sounds like the worst thing ever until you hear another SFG single.

DL, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

gotta admire consistency

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link

didn't think james bond was that bad compared to mumf, the view etc

the other sfg tracks were more rapey

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:32 (thirteen years ago) link

it makes me feel v. old to know that student life is now synonymous with Carlsberg & Top Man

― Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

otm!

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw the Frank and Walters live, man

I bought the t-shirt.

portrait of velleity (woof), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

this list is very amazing. also makes sense of the otherwise nonsensical success of the arctic monkeys

athlete - successfully forgot this band
babyshambles - pretentious tramp mumbling
biffy clyro - feel they are of a slightly different set
florence and the machine - landfill is a lad thing
hard-fi - lead singer has an incredibly evil face
hundred reasons - v energetic hair
joe lean and the jing jang jong - get very patriotic feelings thinking about this band
kaiser chiefs - too big to be here, frontman's jowels are really regretable
kasabian - not going to start thinking about them now
keane - all their fans weeping w/ silent self-pity watching their claymation video, what wld your grandfathers think
mumford and sons - haven't heard laura marling but fucking this is inexcusable. creepy desperate evangelical vibe, mumf will def get crazier/have a breakdown
noah and the whale - for guys who were too shy for local theatre
pigeon detectives lol
razorlight - historic live8 performance
scouting for girls
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/cordenhorneBBC_450x300.jpg
welcome to england
snow patrol - ripped off by take that, my brother got a letter from them circa 2002. paradigm example of a major strain of coldplay-derived drivel
starsailor < look at this word
the courteeners, the cribs VOID
the enemy - remarkably grotesque band
the feeling - the champions. life is meaningless when listening to this band.
the fratellis - a colossal turd you can take peculiar pleasure seeing through
the futureheads - shouldn't dirty pretty things be on this list because they are def shit enough
the hoosiers, the wombats - useful lazy punchlines
the kooks - recall only a song called "jackie big tits"
the magic numbers - seem slightly distinct.
the ordinary boys - least ugly?
the others, rakes, twang, view - impossible to care about
the stereophonics - stopped listening v quickly so what i know of this band doesn't fit
the zutons - that girl looked interesting for one video
toploader - that song has transcended to another plane, actually memorable

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44787000/jpg/_44787852_thefeeling_oa.jpg

ogmor, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

jowels?

ogmor, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

aaaaand now i am imagining the list in a james murphy voice

nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

whoever is the 2020s James Murphy will do this

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

a fat guy in a tshirt

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

altho we will be living in makeshift yurts and fighting each other for precious supplies of coal in an arid wasteland that used to be Doncaster by then so ho hum

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

unthinkable terror of a parallel world lcd soundsystem that namechecked the hoosiers

ogmor, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

^do you see?!

ogmor, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

"tha HOO-syuhs, tha HOOS-yuhs"

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know what the Futureheads are doing on this list

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

BLENDING RIGHT IN

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

unthinkable terror of a parallel world lcd soundsystem that namechecked the hoosiers

It'd be the James Murphy that never left the Barfly.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

cambridge corn exchange surely

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

wheres franz ferdinand?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

(sorry nv dont sb me, i just couldnt resist)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

> hard-fi - lead singer has an incredibly evil face

http://s7.directupload.net/images/110218/temp/w2hgc6el.jpg

meisenfek, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

ff do't really belong w/ the landfill, they were more a sort of 'wry' 'affecting' 'quirky' ish thing like british sea power that just sold a lot of records

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Funnily enough Laura Marling broke up with head-Mumford and is now dating the non-Corden one out of Gavin & Stacey. The woman has taste.

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure which part of the first sentence justifies the second one.

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

The implication she's done it all for lulz.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

The second sentence is sarcastic?

Number None, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that the Ordinary Boys are the band that live closest to me. If they win this poll, I hereby promise to print out this thread and deliver it to them by hand.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

make sure you get a Big Issue in return

Elmer Fuiud (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link

I suspect Kasabian's only goal in life was to have a song used as background music in a Top Gear episode. Now that this is done, they can go away quietly.

Really want to vote for The Coral

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Voted SFG in the end. Would like to see them go on from here to win the world cup of terrible.

― seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 21:03 (Yesterday)

once they take the music world crown i'm pretty confident they could go beyond that even.

*scouting for girls
*fascism
*the twilight saga
*dysentery

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I think that the Ordinary Boys are the band that live closest to me. If they win this poll, I hereby promise to print out this thread and deliver it to them by hand.

^ok i voted

ogmor, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

"work, work, work (pub, club, sleep)" is still dope as long as you don't really pay attention the lyrics

teenage cream (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

i quite like the lyrics tbh

and it is a tune

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Friday, 18 February 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

haha, i am charmed by earnest US-adopters of this shit, yes, but also filled w/ pity

ogmor, Friday, 18 February 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

You know the cunts who are like puppeteers for all of this shit and yet somehow going unmentioned? MUSE. FUCK MUSE.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 07:54 (thirteen years ago) link

true but along with coldplay and munkehs they are too big and 'global' for this poll

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't hate Joe Lean & the Jing Jang Jong because a) I've never heard a single thing by them and b) the singer was the best thing in the worst series of Peep Show.

I hope to fucking god that Scouting For Girls google themselves and find this thread.

nate woolls, Friday, 18 February 2011 09:50 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to JL&TJJJ for first time now

pretty shit tbh

not clear how this generated "considerable expectation" per wikipedia

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Friday, 18 February 2011 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It generated "considerable expectation" because there was considerable evidence that the British public would lap this shit up no matter how half-arsed and derivative it was. Except at some point around 2007 they suddenly stopped and no one noticed until it was too late and they had a load of coked-up bands with stupid names on their books.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68PNxvXZjoI

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link

not too bad rly

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link

there they are in stoke japan

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Are they secretly Gene's bastard offspring?

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link

How could they call the band that (xp, joe)

abcfsk, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

which part dont u like

joe
lean
and
the
jing
jang
jong

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:07 (thirteen years ago) link

"joe lean and the" is pretty offensive on its own, but the rest is mind-boggling

abcfsk, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link

joe limb and the king kang kong

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link

geordie jang and the ming mang mong

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

wait i fucked that up

miss pansy twist (electricsound), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

'sok, the ten people who would've got it laughed anyway (well I did)

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

It's a Spike Milligan reference.

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

"Dear Sirs,

This band is terrible,

Sincerely,
Spike Milligan"

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know how record deals work, is it possible that these bands (and their even less long-term successful and possibly more appalling cousins) were signed to, say, three-album contracts, with the labels desperately hoping the bands split up before they find themselves in the position of having to fund the recording of an album by The Others in 2013?

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Three album, with "options" usually only available to the label.

So, album one may do alright, or may tank.
Either way, album two may break them, keep them on the same level, or may also tank.

By album three, label goes "oh alright, make another album, here's £56"

At which point band cannot nick off, so usually split as they are label-tied.

Mark G, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link

The Others are an English rock band, signed to Poptones in July 2004 and their eponymous debut album was released on 31 January 2005.

..........

The band are currently writing and recording songs for their third album expected in 2010.

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Am vaguely amused that SFG started out under the name 'Cape'.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link

xp seems that their second album was released on 'Lime Records' whatever that is, tho. No wonder Poptones went down, letting surefire hits like that go.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 February 2011 11:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Whenever I complain about the dominance of privately educated, well-connected indie bands I worry about sounding like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZQWyImkkU0

DL, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Some bands you forgot about: The Departure, Boy Kill Boy, The 22-20s, The Dead 60s. Now they are completely forgotten.

zeus, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

The 22-20s have already split up and reformed. Weren't they more of a fake White Stripes/Von Bondies type act?

The Departure were astonishly bad though.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:06 (thirteen years ago) link

xp that was it. thanks. "thanks". actually the name has not yet triggered any memory of the music, thank fuck.

No need to "thank" me: my "kindness" had its own "reward" bcz I have now had that holloways song stuck in my head for a day.

i will not suffer alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2M612Xj8cU

portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Matt DC: yes, 22-20s were some kind of tradrock/dadrock thing.

One more name: Dogs Die In Hot Cars. Though split up 2 or 3 years ago I think.

zeus, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I like that Holloways song, I had no idea who sang it until now.

nate woolls, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Do the Subways belong here? I have managed to avoid hearing them (but have seen their name everywhere repeatedly) on the assumption that they do.

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

The Subways definitely belong here.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

watched the holloways on mute. exactly as despicable as the song - which i still haven't recalled, i can feel it knocking around in there but i've managed to hold it off so far.

ledge, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

If you're including The Departure then White Lies are the same but even worse, though somehow turned up after all this was over and still did well.

if, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

White Lies actually had the UK's biggest selling rock/guitar-oriented single for a couple of weeks in January, but it didn't even go Top 40.

mike t-diva, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

biffy clyro - POTENTIALLY THE WORST lol smelly and welsh.

Yes, they are Welsh. Fuckin' Wales.

the zutons - fucking shit but at least they had a sax which means hey they're not the worst fucking shit

... aye, a sax which she couldn't fucking play! <bgcolor=andygray>Still, nice legs tho.

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

ya I recall Zutons sax as being the odd single parp on the first note of the bar. Contrary to the consensus I thought her legs were too thin and kinda gnarly too. </keysy>

had forgotten about White Lies more than I had anyone here. The clustering of these fellas makes the series of associations come easier.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, they're definitely from Kilmarnock, Wales. xp

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Think you'll find that's spelled Llymarnych

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

ey now if there's one thing we do well up here it's shite and smelly, let's take credit where credit's due.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

:D at /gray and /keysy dialogue now fully formed meme btw

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

richard keys is a rapist /gray
and gray is a rapist /keysy

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link

athlete - who the fuck are these guys
babyshambles - lol heroin
biffy clyro - this scottish guy has a beard SO GO BACK TO THE SEVENTIES, CHIEF
florence and the machine - firecrotch doesn't know how to work an iPod but she knows how to work my iCock amirite
hard-fi - what is this shit
hundred reasons - iirc Kerrang! Award Winners are much like tard kids that get a ribbon for successfully completing a 50 meter walk without falling down
joe lean and the jing jang jong - not anywhere near as good as the fake band, "Put Your Hands Up For l0u1s jagg3r, He Likes The Nazis"
kaiser chiefs - u fat, fatty
kasabian - yeah the last thing the world needs right now is a band that looks like a bunch of dope smoking vikings
keane - roy keane should sue these cunts or kick them in the nads or something
mumford and sons - they should bring back the holocaust and go after folk musicians this time
noah and the whale - kill yrselfs
pigeon detectives - shit
razorlight - shit
scouting for girls - stop being so fucking english
snow patrol - insipid shit
starsailor - even worse than the shitty album they're named after!!
the courteeners - shit
the cribs - shit
the enemy - shit
the feeling - the gay has good dress sense, I'll give them that
the fratellis - worst people to pretend they're italian since fat dom passantino
the futureheads - not even kate bush's magical vagina can save you now
the hoosiers - these fagz are not even as good as middle ranking ILX poster BIG HOOS aka the steendriver
the kooks - shit
the magic numbers - shit
the ordinary boys - oh man imagine if you were a national joke, you'd fucking neck yourself. you should kill yourself if you were in a shit band like this too.
the others - shit
the rakes - shit
the stereophonics - shit
the twang - more like they suck (t)wang
the view - shit
the wombats - gay shit for anglophiles that have paid MONEY to see josie long do stand up comedy
the zutons - shit
toploader - shit

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!! (King Boy Pato), Friday, 18 February 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

^appropriately nostalgia-inducing post amirite

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Friday, 18 February 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

a band that looks like a bunch of dope smoking vikings

love how this is still the biggest compliment paid to Kasabian itt by a mile

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Friday, 18 February 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck's sake i listened to a pigeon detectives song for reference's sake yesterday and it's still in my head. the price one pays to be a lower tier ilx contributor.

i'm sure there are a lot of ugly sorts among these bands, but i'd be very surprised if any outugly the pigeon detectives singer:

http://www.tourdates.co.uk/resources/GetImage-DN-11765-1.jpg

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 February 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe worth redoing as a picture thread if someone can spare the time.....

could probably identify about 10 of them

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/slvZ5.jpg

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Snow Patrol, who I know better as "Those sad Chasing Cars people".

Has No Shame (MintIce), Friday, 18 February 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

That Pidg Dect photo makes them look like a crap Cast tribute band.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Friday, 18 February 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

if someone with good photoshop skills was feeling devious with that pic xp....

nakhchivan, Friday, 18 February 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i53.tinypic.com/xn4vhj.jpg

ledge, Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

class. who are those tits btw?

fat balls for wild birds (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

'the wombats' sez the url

ledge, Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

that's not nearly as devious as i was envisaging

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

people keep leaving/i keep breathing

polymath & psychics club (Lamp), Saturday, 19 February 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

xp can't imagine what else you had in mind. how about this:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7548/andref.jpg

ledge, Sunday, 20 February 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Many of those are not crap and not forgotten.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 20 February 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Like, Kaiser Chiefs and The Feeling are both among the best new UK bands of the past 5-10 years or so. Athlete also had their moments.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 20 February 2011 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

But going for Toploader, who didn't even really have good catchy tunes.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 20 February 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Like, Kaiser Chiefs and The Feeling are both among the best new UK bands of the past 5-10 years or so.

Tragically, this may be true.

They're still crap though.

sonofstan, Sunday, 20 February 2011 11:09 (thirteen years ago) link

finding out that you like the feeling is the first time you have truly disappointed me, geir

ogmor, Sunday, 20 February 2011 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Sometimes I forget that ILM is mostly a British thing, until I see this thread and its 450 posts.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 20 February 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link

It used to be but not anymore. But hatred of britpop and its successors pulls everyone together in times of need

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

even Ferg checked in for this!

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 20 February 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

every time I see this thread I think it is going to be an actual discussion about a landfill in particular or landfills in general. I open it, see that it is not, and leave.

peacocks, Sunday, 20 February 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

even Ferg checked in for this!

I know!! Been trying to contact him for about 6 months. Now we all know what the batsignal is.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

landfill indie is new wave to britpops punk?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

not really. this stuff is from squiggly line almost a decade later squiggly line.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

true

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i definitely remember it being labelled Britpop 2.0 though.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

well yeah it's fair enough for the kaiser chiefs and the ordinary boys especially, but there was a bigger gap between them in time is all, and while in the grand scheme of things both this stuff and britpop was basically two variations on 'unimaginative guitar pop', the discourse changed around it? idk, it wasn't a watered down version of britpop in the way new wave was (they tell us) of punk.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I know what you're saying and I don't disagree with you.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Arguably, I'd say Kaiser Chiefs and The Kooks are actually harder edged than most Britpop bands were. The softer side of Britpop is represented today in the guise of the likes of Coldplay and Snow Patrol though.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

oh yeah i guess i meant to say that this landfill business is the rebirth of arse-end, 1k995-7 era britpop. bands i can't even remember the names of. the supernaturals. not the more defensible earlier stuff.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Also noted were the band’s growing similarities in musical direction to The Fratellis’ and the Arctic Monkeys.[38] The band commented on the album’s style, "I think we've made a dynamic album," Pritchard said. "Every song has its own character. It's a good pop album."[27]

They also are influenced byThe Velvet Underground and covered "Sweet Jane".

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure i've heard the kooks band

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

you will have, they had a couple of pretty horrible ubiquitous hits

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

The band were watching a video recording of themselves playing a gig, and misheard the ending refrain ‘Its alright, it’s alright’ from the song ‘In The City’ as ‘razor-light, razor-light’ which was then chosen as the band name.

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I Killed Razorlight With My Big Fucking Dick

^^ 'i made this'

not really sure why i chose a sonic youth title to do it with. ah, youth.

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

During their first tour of 2008, Roy Stride lost his voice en route to a gig in Birmingham and was diagnosed with laryngitis, forcing the band to reschedule a series of dates on the tour.

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

John Aizlewood of Q. May 2010. gave the album 4 stars, commenting:

"There are no curveballs, no experimental digressions, nothing other than 10 of Roy Stride's focused slabs of honed guitar pop, summed up by the first 26 seconds of opening track This Ain't A Love Song, where soaring keyboards explode into a chanted "na na na".

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Roy Stride's focused slabs

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.google.co.uk/images/yellow_warning.gif No results found for "the kooks aren't very kooky".

for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Scouting For Girls are playing Midlands Music Festival 2010 alongside acts like The Saturdays, Chipmunk (rapper), Westlife, Olly Murs and Everybody Looks Famous in Tamworth, England.

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Everybody Looks Famous in Tamworth are playing Midlands Music Festival 2011 alongside acts like Roy Stride (rapper), Westlife, and John Aizlewood of Q.

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Many bands classed in this genre have only released one studio album[3].

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Sunday, 20 February 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Again with the perms

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 February 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDa07ChH6Tc

Black Arkestra, Sunday, 20 February 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

wait who is ferg?

/n00b

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 20 February 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Generally, Britpop/indie is better the catchier choruses, the more twee, the happier, the less offensive, the more derivative, the less provoking. So many of these bands are great.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

are you sure?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Wouldn't waste a shit on this pile of turgid bollocks.

Exceptions to Snow Patrol (pre you know what, although did enjoy their recentish '...City...' song and some of their earleir songs were fine- 'Little Hide' and 'An Olive Grove...'.and the Futureheads were Ok once. I also don't quite get the hate for Biff C. What I've heard, I quite like some of their chordage.

100 reasons looked like Slade or somebody, but weren't quite worthy of hate?

The remainder is so despicable. That fucking TopLoader song.... I can't even...

Razorlight or Scouting for Girls?

Die scum. Die, you scummy cunts

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 20 February 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

re. Snow Patrol, Absolute Gravity's a tune and a half it is.

The referee was perfect (Chris), Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:41 (thirteen years ago) link

what was that thing they did with mogwai? reindeer section? that was rubbish too

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

they used to be a kinda six by seven / electrelane fan sort of band didn't they?

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 February 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

no, they were never in the same lleague as six by seven. Anyone i knew who liked Snow Patrol were damn twee huggers

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i remem someone whose ftp i used to use when i was 15 or so was into those kinda bands (and slint/fugazi/us maple etc) and had some snow patrol albums

then a few years later they were some huge MOR atrocity

idk, can't remem any of their music from either phase

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 February 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

sums up their mediocrity

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

like I alluded to in my longass post upthread, they started off being a winsome bite of Sebadoh with the wonky bits stripped out... the transition into MOR atrocity was kinda odd but hardly like they were depriving the ~indie universe~ of future greatness

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Monday, 21 February 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

the first 3 or 4 snow patrol singles are quite good imo

reindeer section had that one song i like 'you are my joy' but the rest of their oeuvre was neither here nor there

ooma boogy wow wow (electricsound), Monday, 21 February 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

afaicr snow patrol started out as polar bear and did a thingy on that electric honey label that tigermilk was also on

ooma boogy wow wow (electricsound), Monday, 21 February 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

"Starfighter Pilot" was an early single, right? I vaguely recall that having indie rock guitar moves but still sucking.

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Monday, 21 February 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Snow Patrol were the band who, in 2000-2001 seemingly sent a single a week into our student magazine office and we couldn't give them away. 5 years later they were the biggest band in Britain. Pretty sure every generation has its equivalent.

Matt DC, Monday, 21 February 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link

bet you would be gutted now if one of those singles was worth 500 quid now

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link

speaking as someone in a similar role at the same time, they were probably punting out the damn things in four-figure numbers, and I suspect you'd be lucky to get 500 pence

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

the cottage industry versh of landfill

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Most of these bands may be forgotten. But so is Nelly too, and Nelly was much worse than anything on this list.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:45 (thirteen years ago) link

pffftt...

"country grammar" is still a jam

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

what does nelly have to do with this thread?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

the toy dolls version was a hit when i started secondary school

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

thats great btw, its like andrew wk doing donk sea shanties

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:56 (thirteen years ago) link

p fucking melodic in other words

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i lied before, i actually kinda enjoy "spitting games" by snow patrol. the cod-mbv production and goofy lyrics are a guilty pleasure.

i would never admit this, irl.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

voted Biffy Clyro because I was an undergraduate in Scotland when they were 'blowing up' and loads of my classmates thought they were fucking indie as shit because they saw them at Fresher's Week or whatever. would prob have voted the Fratellis otherwise, but I was doing my honours stuff around that time and had little contact with their fans.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

good man

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12505772

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link

glad jilly's rock world has shut down, that was some corny bullshit. hopefully the krazyhouse goes the same way, went to uni at liverpool and h8ed being dragged to that dump.

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

what does nelly have to do with this thread?

Forgotten 00s crap.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

im voting mumford, surely u don't like them geir?

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually never heard of them.

There are some truly crap bands in the list though. Was never big on Starsailor and Stereophonics. Basically, Britpop and this kind of indie were all about tunes, and those two bands didn't have much to offer in terms of actual tunes that would build up and end up in catchy anthemic singalong choruses. They simply just didn't have the songwriting skills to write good old-fashioned pop tunes. And just playing guitar without having good tunes becomes pretty boring in the end.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

The day of reckoning for the monsters of zavviwave

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/CYELT.jpg

he's ready

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4668/lauren460.jpg

she's ready

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Do the Mystery Jets fit in here somehow? They seem to get pitched as something a little bit arty and different, but the couple of songs I've heard have just been the same sort of mewling bumdrizzle as the rest of these fops.

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago) link

the three pillars of landfill -- zavviwave, parkawave, and ommwave

third wd include the mystery jets, the horrors etc

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/wP7WX.jpg

& foals obv

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

omg test-icicles

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link

they were lol

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:38 (thirteen years ago) link

not rly landfill tho

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, Ommwave! Mystery Jets are exactly the sort of shite that the Music Doctor would recommend to Pol Pot.

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link

nah but possibly worse than all of these.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link

We're negatively comparing them to good rock bands, Geir, not Nelly.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Surely one of these abysmal chancers has done a cover of Hot In Herre though.

Speaking of which, there aren't enough cover versions on this thread. Opening gambit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxNuAPvLo0

OMG THE RAPPING. THE RAPPING.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxrUeISv3eU

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Kaiser Chiefs cover reminds me of PWEI.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyFtrm3T0Gg

DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link

With rap by Zane Lowe!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZrZJfcDyXs

DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw the Mystery Jets live once and they were very mediocre, but this one with Laura Marling is quite cute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz-FoGp3p0s

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DandjZwi4yM

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Really sounds like they're singing 'what time is it, love?' xxxxp

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i know of an american kinda-folky kinda-indie cover of hot in herre (awful obv, which is a shame because i like the artist doing it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwuIIsDjgZg

omg the video is even fucking worse. its in an igloo! geddit!

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJAklQZ7kBg

NO. JUST NO.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't bear to click on 'Biffy Clyro - Love Sex Magic (Originally by Ciara & Justin Timberlake)'

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Re: the Live Lounge's role in all of this:

http://myelephantmuse.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/elephants-never-forget.jpg

DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Grr, I mean.

http://myelephantmuse.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/elephants-never-forget.jpg

DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link

omfg zane lowe rapping. possibly the most cringe inducing thing on the whole thread.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

in the interests of fairness I've got to point out that I'm SBing every fucker that comes in here defending one of these.

Except Geir, obv, cos he's a prince.

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzW37W2vCPE

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Fuck that one is terrible

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

It was terrible when Sting done it, what chance have those cunts got?

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

You haven't pressed play yet have you?

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i might be depressed but i'm not suicidal

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't see the YT embeds, but The Automatic's cover of "Gold Digger" should not be forgotten.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvwJtWP_qXw

Fucking hell

DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

The words "high quality" have no place on that clip.

DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

the vocals on that are sooooooooooooo crap

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link

There's no way back from that. They'd have had more chance if they'd been caught kiddy-fiddling.

DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

omfg zane lowe rapping. possibly the most cringe inducing thing on the whole thread.

i had erased this from my mind ;_;

re: razorlight/sting, as tom ewing wrote at the time: Pop scientists have searched long and heard for an individual less vocally and spiritually capable of singing reggae than Sting and finally he has appeared: well done all concerned.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Poor Rastalight. Such tragic lack of self-awareness.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEYODN8g2Qw

"we've chosen this song because we're sexual beings at heart"

brb need to scrub myself clean for 3 hours

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:23 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god the backing grunts in the chorus

this is so grim

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link

lol don't do it to yourself man

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

fucking hell that automatic "gold digger" cover is OFF THE DEEP END. the rapping oh god please make it stop

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link

what is he DOING on the chorus? why?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

OH GOD THE SECOND VERSE IT GETS WORSE WHAT IS THIS YELPING HE IS DOING

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

almost like what he does here. in the chorus anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCvxsmXYDyA

ledge, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

There's no way back from that. They'd have had more chance if they'd been caught kiddy-fiddling.

― DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:06 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ahem

Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link

that's weird, he doesn't look like a paedo

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link


Bowen, who runs Probation Management, was released on bail on the condition he resides at his home address, reports to Rumney police station twice a week and has no contact with anyone under the age of 18 unless it is supervised by an adult aged over 18.

The Automatic, who were formed in Cowbridge, are best known for their hit song Monster.

"Probation Management"

"Monster"

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

It's too easy. It's just too easy.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago) link

next album's called "CRB Check" iirc

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:54 (thirteen years ago) link

big lols @ "that's weird, he doesn't look like a paedo"

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

had to go Fratellis in the end, paying strict attention to the criteria they are surely the ultimate landfill indie band.

Neil S, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:57 (thirteen years ago) link

The Automatic (also known as The Automatic Automatic in the U.S.)

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

the use of the word "known" there is misleading

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/kHy4y.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/kHy4y.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/kHy4y.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/kHy4y.jpg

i ain't saying he a child fucker, but he aint going wit no konnie huq-ah

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

you ever wonder about people whose physical circumstances ought to make them think "the afro's a shade too far"?

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Only just dared look in here. Florence Machine and Noah Whale I can deal with; let's set them free. The rest are horrible, by and large, with maybe the odd OK song. But some of the horrors perpetrated here, oh lordy.

Toploader would win, I suspect, if their biggest hit wasn't in 1999. So let's say Scouting For Girls.

Ukranian crocodile that swallowed a mobile phone (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Toploader's (s)hit was re-released twice IIRC

but cheese and chips excites me (snoball), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

they were def at the uhm height of their careers in 2001/01ish, same with the stereophonics

this is mumfords vs scouting tho

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Should belong to SFG by rights, but fearing a strong US-backed challenge from Milquetoast & Sons

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure it's gonna be SFG.

Has a poll result been so keenly anticipated for since a long time?

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

there is a lo of utter filth in this poll that isn't even going to be a contender cuz the field is so toxically strong

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

/lot

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

you have managed to construct a poll in which mumford and sons is my favorite option

i don't know what to say

ciderpress, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

thinking that unpleasantness of borrell may lift razorlight to top 3 finish

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

are we voting for best or worst, btw?

i think mine's between futureheads, for having achieved a level of critical respect that few of the other landfills did - and specifically for their most disgusting work, the kate bush cover, too; what is WRONG with people who say they like that shit - and scouting for girls, who seem to somehow still be going years after the others expired

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

worst lex

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

although id be interested to see your best.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm voting for this Honey and Banana Yoghurt. Write-in vote.

Oh. Worst. Right...

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link

babyshambles easily least worst, occasionally even reaching the dizzying heights of mediocrity

needed to be at least one doherty band itp tho

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm slowly coming round to the painful conclusion that Florence & The Machine are the best band here. Maybe Keane.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

We forgot the Dirty Pretty Things incidentally.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i think dirty pretty things forgot dirty pretty things

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

cannot abide Florence et al but that's partly down to mistakenly reading three lines of an interview with her and partly cos I really dislike the song "You've Got the Love" and y'know they made a dirge dirgier. wd probably rep for that one Enemy single above everything on here but the Rakes' first album is decent fun too.

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link

never heard florence

she looks like a 44 yr old victorian governess, was rly amazed to find out she was so young

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

indie chancers always knock 5 years off their real age and female indie chancers often 10 because it's a sexist old game innit

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

nah p sure she is her stated age

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

http://new.assets.thequietus.com/images/articles/5600/Razorlight2011_1296033858_crop_480x591.jpg

^ regret not being able to bung these guys a few votes

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link

thinking that unpleasantness of borrell may lift razorlight to top 3 finish

Nah, Borrell's yesterday's twat, he's all but forgotten now surely? Are they still going anyway? Foghorn + the Machine are fuggin' dire. Keane are probably the best on that list!

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

the irony is, there's a picture of said twat immediately above your post!

Neil S, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Best on the list?

Biffy Clyro seem underrated to me, but then I've not bought any of their stuff.

I would happily play the first Kasabian album anytime, but all the subsequent ones I don't care for.

Umm, um um.. The Wombats have a bunch of good songs on their album...

um, nope. Can't choose a best, cause that would mean they are more than 50% alright.

I thought the Coureteeners were OK, until I played their album, and got to suffering after about 4 tracks..

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

In a recent interview with Teletext, Borrell announced that the band was working with Steve Lillywhite and Dave McCracken on a new record and that they were eager to get the new songs out "soon"

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

shitty indie shd be due a chart revival in about 6 years so maybe he'll hang on

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

http://limewire.am/covers/11/11811/alb_38992_big.jpg

"It'll never happen!"

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I really dislike the song "You've Got the Love"

The old skool mix with the breakbeats and the strings and piano breakdown is glorious. Florence's version is clearly and vastly inferior.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

i just hate the song. i really really loved "Your Love" and the Candi Statton version has always felt plodding and dirgey and dull dull fucking dull to me

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link

just checked a lil bit of florence

shit but not really for this poll

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

least worst is...florence or keane?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh, british people british music this fucking country

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

There are two mixes of Candi Stanton version, the less widely-played one is far better/more dynamic IMO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1wvtGOBV-g

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm, best on the list? Probably Keane, might have been Athlete if their other albums were as good as Beyond The Neighbourhood, might have been The Futureheads if they'd stopped after the first album.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Think it's Magic Numbers for me - wouldn't listen to them on purpose, but their songs are pleasant and they're refreshingly non-posey.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link

hang on, are we voting for best or worst here?

territory of the magic wand (Chris), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Razorlight are saved from being the worst because although Johnny Borrell is a cock, everyone in Razorlight who is not Johnny Borrell thinks that Johnny Borrell is a cock.

but cheese and chips excites me (snoball), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, but would you have a look at that D'Artagnan guy in the photo above

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Johhny Borrell was the year below me at sixth form, didn't really know him but everyone thought he was a cock. And his older brother stole my mate's girlfriend.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Razorlight are saved from being the worst because although Johnny Borrell is a cock, everyone in Razorlight who is not Johnny Borrell thinks that Johnny Borrell is a cock.

AKA the Libyan diplomat defence.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, but would you have a look at that D'Artagnan guy in the photo above

http://guitarius.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Ritchie-Blackmore-and-Candice-Night.jpg

Ritchie: "Bands these days, no class"

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Witchfinder General might be the best band ever

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

http://new.assets.thequietus.com/images/articles/5600/Razorlight2011_1296033858_crop_480x591.jpg
Guy on left: 'FFS guys, what is this? I'm the only one who's dressed halfway near normally. You, guy on my left, this isn't a metal band. Johnny... ugh never mind. Whatever you wear you'll always look like a cock. Is that supposed to be a coat or a potato sack? And you on the far right? You want to dress like that, go join Kasabian.'

but cheese and chips excites me (snoball), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

It's no fun being an illegal alien

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

borrell's mouth-breathing BUH?stare there is just...so him

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

that fucking hat.

Bill A, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Maybe its some kind of deliberate strategy? Look as thick as shit, then when he says something it'll sound intelligent by comparison... oh wait...

but cheese and chips excites me (snoball), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

ok voted razorlight. think the classic-rock-star drama posturing annoys me more than gulpy kooks wetness, pigeon detective gravy rock, sfg wanking from the shadows & even fratelli mongery.

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

also I cannot believe Kirsten Dunst let borrell…

she was my last great pathetic stoner crush.

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

xp to Razorlight pic, again:

I can't see another chance that I'll get to recount this anecdote on ILM, so here you go:

My dad was part of the last year of National service in the UK (1960 I think), and was based in South Wales. From the way he tells it he split the time 50/50 with raining artillery shells on hillsides and getting pissed. On one occasion he went to a favourite local pub with his pal "Scouse" Robinson, who was wearing a new alpen style hat with a feather in it. On entering the packed bar, the landlady spotted them and bellowed across the room:

"Christ almighty, Robinson, give me that fucking hat; I want to see if I look as much of a cunt in it as you do"

Bill A, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

:D

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

razorlight dude looks like former nfl quarterbeck 'http://c0848462.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/3d93bd2c4f3f1b33c02182fd0f20476f.png'

fairly sure u will find a pic of at least one landfill 'star' wearing a tyrolean hat, probably in the ommwave sector

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link

nfl quarterbeck matt hasselback

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link

There's a pic of Noel Edmonds and Tony Blackburn presenting TOTP while both wearing Tyrolean hats, so I guess that the answer to the landlady's question is "yes".

but cheese and chips excites me (snoball), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

also that time the dude from larrikin love and josef fritzl guest presented popworld during its ill fated final run

fuck you jan stepek you kurwa (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGCklaJSF0

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

should get a 100+ votes this thread. Will probably be the 1st worst ever ILM poll that toploader & stereophonics wont win too.

btw all these bands are so unmemorable they dont even get in NME's Greatest Frontmen Ever (2011 edition) you would think some new bands frontmen would make the NME list to keep their readers interested. The best they can do is Matt Bellamy!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

sfg to win by 50 votes then? Mumford 2nd?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Thread needs more hats

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

hope yr dressed appropriately&are printing out a copy of this to quickly jog over to palais de preston

ogmor, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/30468295/Razorlight+02.jpg

^ this fucking guy

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

hope yr dressed appropriately&are printing out a copy of this to quickly jog over to palais de preston

Half-pissed, stark-bollock naked and eating a cup-a-soup, bring it on you fuckers

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Can you *eat* a cup-a-soup btw>?

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

just wish I cld be there to see the presentation unfold

ogmor, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure that Worthing's finest are safe in this one, does anyone even remember one of their songs anyway?

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/UTHjc.jpg

Jools Timms (22) is the frontman for Bicester based ska-folk revivalists The Lorimers, named after former Leeds great Peter Lorimer. Says Jools of his trademark tyrolean hat, "it's part of who I am, it's about saying I'm street but I know my roots". Tours with The Cornhuskers and an upcoming support slot with Mumford & Sons bode well for 2011, and a debut album is in the works. "Bicester is a weird place, it's urban but it's rural, it's about taking the spirits from the trees and the rhythms from the human world around us." Citing influences as diverse as The Police, The Incredible String Band, Enter Shikari and Catcher in the Rye, there's no doubt he's done his reading, and it will take a brave soul to doubt these fearless troubadours in the year ahead.

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Where is ilxors predictions?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I predict

scouting for girls 20
mumford and sons 11
toploader 9
the futureheads 7
biffy clyro 7
razorlight 6
florence and the machine 5
the stereophonics 5
snow patrol 4
the fratellis 4
kasabian 4
kaiser chiefs 4
the kooks 3
joe lean and the jing jang jong 3
hard-fi 3
babyshambles 3
the zutons 2
the twang 2
hundred reasons 2
keane 2
the courteeners 2
starsailor 2
the cribs 1
noah and the whale 1
the ordinary boys 1
the hoosiers 1

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Smiles

Mark G, Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

oddo futre wolf ganso kilgallon thome aldair (nakhchivan), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:02 (thirteen years ago) link

the police,
- the incredible String Band - enter shikari and,
catcher in the rye

so disappointed in all of you, should have gone with my heart and voted for the feeling. I learned a hard lesson about tactical voting today.

ogmor, Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Not that I care much - or at all - but I still think the Futureheads are a little too good for this.....

I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/06/07/emilyparr460.jpg

"there's a new music taking over this country... it's called landfill indie"

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link

The bands who have achieved their way to zero votes are the ones who really embody what landfill indie is all about, imho.

oppet, Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

omg forgot about indie bb girl

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Subtract 1 from the Futureheads, I thought we were voting for the best among this group.

monster_xero, Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Feel the Pigeon Detectives got away lightly.

Pisle of dogs (seandalai), Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

what a depressing thread, for about 250 reasons

NI, Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link

every band deserved a lot of votes. If there is ever a dadrock type poll i wonder who would win. There was so many of them.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link

would need to leave out the big bands though

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link

NI at least you have the knowledge you never liked any of these bands in the poll.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

If there is ever a dadrock type poll i wonder who would win. There was so many of them.

rly, more than this, or did it just feel like it due to the depressing nature of any attention being paid these dire dullards? at least landfillers are young dipshits having a go.

Cast, Ocean Weller Scene, ?? - who else really counts?

yesterday's twat (sic), Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Nakh has done it for you
the rectal prolapse of norman lamont: terrible post-britpop/dadrock ephemera

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 24 February 2011 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

his trademark tyrolean hat

Pure gold. If only the landlady of The Bear had lived to see this.

Bill A, Thursday, 24 February 2011 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Can we redo this poll? I want to vote for The Lorimers.

nate woolls, Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link

the feeling 0

If there were ever a band that resembled Jimmy Carr asleep...

Mark G, Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link

they deserved votes

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

you know, i don't think i've heard mumford & sons yet, but a lot of people i know have said they like them. i take it they really are that harmful if they came second to scouting for girls?

cosdelier baring through a bat in a fallman chantume (dog latin), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

"Bicester is a weird place, it's urban but it's rural, it's about taking the spirits from the trees and the rhythms from the human world around us."

HOW CAN YOU MAKE THIS PLACE SOUND WORSE THAN IT IS?

carson dial, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont even know where it is!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

famous for its retail park.

Neil S, Thursday, 24 February 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

not to me it's not.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Im no fan of the futureheads but they seem alittle high?

X-101, Friday, 25 February 2011 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

a few real votes for the credible face of landfill plus a few 'I thought we were voting for best'?

portrait of velleity (woof), Friday, 25 February 2011 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I think ilm's resident kate bush fan club voted futureheads as worst

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 25 February 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

nah - I love Kate Bush and I like them and their HoL cover.

Think Woof has the right idea something.

ENBB, Friday, 25 February 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Guardian in "shooting fish in a barrel" shockah:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/poll/2013/jun/03/razorlight-johnny-borrell-solo-song-title

Neil S, Monday, 3 June 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

the album didnt sell much did it?

also this still makes me lol

It's quite impressive that even on a list containing Toploader, The Kooks and The View, Scouting For Girls are still the worst.

― nate woolls,

press release from stiff :

Stiff Records is proud to announce first week sales figures for its latest album - Johnny Borrell's 'Borrell 1' - of 594.

'Borrell 1' is the debut solo LP from the former Razorlight vocalist and is the first new album on the highly prolific Stiff Records since 2007.

That last album was the multi million-selling two-volume set, '30 Years Of Stiff Records' (although admittedly that was a free cover-mount with 'The "First week sales of 594 makes 'Borrell 1' the 15,678th best selling album of the year to date," comments a Stiff spokesperson. "So far we've achieved 0.00015% sales of Adele's '21' - and 0.03% sales of this week's No. 1 album from Jahmene Douglas - so we feel like it's all to play for as we move into the all-important week two."

"We might even break the Top 100."

mark e, Monday, 5 August 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

seven months pass...

In February 2008, The Twang had their University of Surrey gig filmed and later broadcast on Channelbee. However this footage is no longer available due to Channelbee's demise.

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 March 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link

ChannelBee was an internet television channel which launched on 5 July 2008. As from 20/11/09 Channelbee has ceased operating. ChannelBee is a new concept featuring new and topical content each day varying from comedy sketches to daily blogs and football. Television presenter Tim Lovejoy came up with the idea with some of his colleagues on Soccer AM, which he hosted alongside Helen Chamberlain for 11 years.

The original crew members at time of launch were Tim Lovejoy, John 'Fenners' Fendley, Neil 'The Square' Smythe, Joe 'Sheephead' Worsley, Robbie 'The Tramp' Knox, Jon Dyson, Chris 'The Vegetarian' Stott, Jadeen Singh and Gemma. This group has subsequently been added to as ChannelBee has expanded with new members Harriet Pulford, 'Bendy' Ben Lowe, Tony 'The Cockney' Watson and Jamie 'Sheps' Sheppard joining.

At the core of the website is the forum known as the Banter Pit where members talk about the Channel and other topics. Members can give feedback on content here and uniquely receive a response from the sites producers including Tim Lovejoy. There are also weekly competitions that in the past have had prizes including a PlayStation 3, football tickets and even the opportunity to come to the office, meet the team and enter a poker competition, the prize was won by longstanding member Sgt Bash.

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 March 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link

those nicknames, so evocative

NI, Sunday, 16 March 2014 03:23 (ten years ago) link

What the fuck are The Futureheads doing here?

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 03:00 (ten years ago) link

mumford and sons 11

this band was around three years ago? ugh.

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 03:02 (ten years ago) link

Longer than that. Saw them open for Laura Marling back in 2008. (They were also her backing band.)

DonkeyTeeth, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 03:56 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

This is the rest of the bill for the Libertines at Hyde Park: Maximo Park, The Enemy, Reverend And The Makers, The View, The Twang, The Rifles.

Imagine paying money to see that.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 April 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link

Hopefully 'The Rifles' aren't actually a band.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 25 April 2014 09:56 (ten years ago) link

Spiritualized and The Pogues are on this as well, but they have some degree of critical respect so it's less of a sitting target for social media yuksters if they're listed as well

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 April 2014 10:18 (ten years ago) link

as well, as well

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Friday, 25 April 2014 10:18 (ten years ago) link

spiritualized and the pogues make it no better

lex pretend, Friday, 25 April 2014 10:36 (ten years ago) link

ladies and gentlemen we are floating in waste

It's Pablum Time with (NickB), Friday, 25 April 2014 10:48 (ten years ago) link

I don't actually mind Maximo Park. As for the rest of the bill, I'd rather listen to Cast and Ocean Colour Scene. In fact, I'd rather listen to Cast and Ocean Colour Scene that 95% of the bands in this poll, which says a lot about the level of quality we're dealing with here.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 25 April 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link

*than

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Friday, 25 April 2014 13:27 (ten years ago) link

Premier League predictions: Lawro v Biffy Clyro singer Simon Neil

BBC Sport's football expert Mark Lawrenson is pitting his wits against a different guest each week this season.

His opponent for the weekend's Premier League fixtures is Biffy Clyro frontman Simon Neil.

Neil is backing all of the Premier League's top three of Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester City to win this weekend, but thinks the title race is now a foregone conclusion.

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Saturday, 3 May 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

Forgot Elbow.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 3 May 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

nme overestimates my ability to forget to a tragic extent

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

familiar with 56% of those names, perhaps a third to a half of those could remember something else about them, a song name or a racism furore or suchlike

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link

what does it mean that joe lean and the jing jang jong couldnt even get on this list? their wikipedia page still links to their official website http://www.jingjangjong.com/

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link

i think both the first futureheads album and the first rakes album are classics (haven't listened to the latter in years tbh but i fucked heavy w/ it when i was 17)

The Rakes holds up for me, in the same way the new We Are Scientists is great, if you're a fan. Checking now, looks like the follow-up, Ten New Messages, escaped my radar. Will snag that soon.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

Milburn Formed in Sheffield in 2001, Milburn’s cheeky chappy tunes (check out the rattling clatter of ‘Lipstick Lickin’) might not have stood the test of time, but they can at least claim their place in the indie history books for helping to inspire mates and local peers Arctic Monkeys to crack on with it. One for the team then, eh boys?

"Crack on with the cheeky chappy tunes boys, we need to create a self-sacrificing cheeky chappy wind for The Artic Monkeys success!"

xelab, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link

it is because I've got adblock on or is the photo for no. 11 the most 'couldnt be arsed' GIS ever?

kinder, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

i know a bunch of people like rattling good cheeky chappy tunes but i have no fucking idea why

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

was thinking this on the Kasabian thread, there are whole moods or vibes in music that are wholly alien and ugly to me

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link

Poor Mooney Suzuki (#13 although these numbers appear to be entirely meaningless). I liked you, you do not belong on this list. Although I think you've entirely merged with The Modey Lemon in my head so maybe I didn't like you after all.

White Rose Movement (#22): not very good, but I liked this one single by their probably even more forgotten 90s incarnation Arturo

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

Aw, I loved Arturo. I, too, own like one single by them, but it was a bloody great single.

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link

Wow, that is actually a completely different Arturo single than the one I had! And it's amazing! It's that "your lips are just like mine, tripped out on the Circle Line" one that I could never find. Loved that song.

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

I remember 100% of the bands in that article. Even possibly more worrying is that I probably own records by 80% of em. Transgressive seemed like a really exciting label for a moment there

arturo still sound great to me, both singles are ace. I found a promo with a couple of extra tracks a few years ago, shame they never finished an lp

doodle cock-up (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 21:18 (nine years ago) link

fuck the hate.
i still love the departure album.
that said, i had not heard interpol or editors by that time.
most of the rest can swing.
and yes, that's from someone who owns well over 60% of the list.
ok, i paid for none of it as i had a crappy website, and labels threw stuff at me.
i care not, it was a glorious time to be a cheapskate online presence ..
just a shame most of the music was so shyte.

mark e, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link

The Grates have made three albums, actually, contrary to that article's suggestion. The third one was pretty decent as well.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link

I finally made it to the end of the list, and it does seem genuinely unfair lumping in The Long Blondes and Pipettes with the rest of that crap. But if they hadn't, there would have been no women at all. (OK, exactly 2.) I don't even know if that's good or bad!

Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

i still listen to pull tiger tail, chalets & dogs on the reg, they each had a couple of really good tracks (stop laughing)

dogs die in hot cars album is great too

doodle cock-up (electricsound), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link

"Now [The Chalets] make up two thirds of buzzy garage band The September Girls" - have thus learned something mildly interesting from this list, aside from wondering how you have two thirds of a five-piece band

for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link

i fucking hate that dogs die in hot cars album, and i normally love c.langer and winstanley productions.

re the grates .. i have an album in the archive, no idea if album #1 or #3, all i hear is second rate grunge.

also, the long blondes/pipettes should not be on this list.

mark e, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

note :
my blocking s/w stopped me from seeing most of the list ..
i got about 20 in and then the number left to view went down with each album.
so, i have no idea re the late entries ..

mark e, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link

same here...the Chalets and Pipettes were a lot better than the bands I did see listed

dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 00:03 (nine years ago) link

(#13 although these numbers appear to be entirely meaningless)

the opening paragraph says "Here’s our favourite 50", i guess the poor sap writing it fell apart before his stream of consciousness splurge was quite over.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link

Pipettes were good (at least before Rose left). Love her solo album.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link

Grates' early stuff was pretty trashy punkpop but the most recent album iirc was more restrained and delicate.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link

"Now [The Chalets] make up two thirds of buzzy garage band The September Girls" - have thus learned something mildly interesting from this list, aside from wondering how you have two thirds of a five-piece band

― for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's just the vocalists. also the album is somewhat disappointing

katherine, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 04:44 (nine years ago) link

every time there's one of these polls of a load of lol landfill acts people pop up to say things like "powder don;t belong on this list" or "symposium's first 2 singles were actually quite good" and I just know without checking that this isn't true

― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:45 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wins, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:13 (nine years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:28 (nine years ago) link

I like the September Girls album fwiw

for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 08:42 (nine years ago) link

note :
my blocking s/w stopped me from seeing most of the list ..
i got about 20 in and then the number left to view went down with each album.
so, i have no idea re the late entries ..

Oh, I had this too. That was why I thought the numbering was meaningless, it would show me non-consecutive numbers and finally crapped out after about 24.

Now wading through the other half without ad-blocking, and that's a lot of ads.

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 08:48 (nine years ago) link

bloody hell .. switched off add blocking ..
that is one seriously painful website to look at.
ok - the rest of the list - truly dreadful (though i still have a soft spot for the clor album).
love how the whole premise of the listicle is that this is supposed to be about decent bands of the era, and yet, in many of the blurbs they slag the band off.
even they cant keep up the pretence.

mark e, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 09:23 (nine years ago) link

I grew up listening to a lot of compilations, and things like "forgotten Nuggets of the 60s" which would be 10 utterly shit tracks, a couple of quite good ones and one so amazing it made the whole rest of the album worthwhile. (And if you were smart, you'd make a C90 of the various amazing ones from other comps.)

So when I see a list of 50 random bands - and especially if I see people I know from other ILX threads, and whose tastes I generally trust, coming along and saying "actually X had this really good single" and "Y doesn't belong on this list!" - especially if I see 3 or 4 people in a row name the same bands. You know, I trust their opinion that that one band might be really really good more than I trust some cynic who can't even bother checking because they have already pre-decided that everything is shit.

So still: Arturo were really good, and Long Blondes really really do not fucking belong on this list.

Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 09:33 (nine years ago) link

My cynicism is born of hard-won experience of bothering to check things out

wins, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 12:09 (nine years ago) link

Lol ok it isn't really

wins, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 12:10 (nine years ago) link

This was an era/genre of music that I was by-and-large repelled by at the time, but TBF I would probably listen to an ILM-compiled 'best of' this list.

3kDk (dog latin), Thursday, 31 July 2014 09:59 (nine years ago) link

does this signal the first wave of landfill revivalism?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuUbziASwE

Merdeyeux, Friday, 1 August 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

Some excellent bile from Noodle Vague near the start of this thread.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 2 August 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

tsk, so much wasted hostility

why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Saturday, 2 August 2014 18:54 (nine years ago) link

that Struts video is...something

why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Saturday, 2 August 2014 18:55 (nine years ago) link

The Struts aren't really landfill indie. They look more like the town dumbos - harmless, energetic, hoovering up the local lassies. I love it. It would be mean to criticise their music. If I could go back again, I would seriously consider doing exactly what they're doing. The difference, then and now, I guess, is that they didn't "seriously consider" anything. I am jealous as hell.

Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 2 August 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

THE SWAGGER are an original 4 piece indie, alternative, Grit-rock band straight out of North London like a Loaded Gun. Originally formed in March 2012, the band are made up of two brothers Lee Stevens (Lead Vocals, Rhythm Guitar) Paul Stevens (Lead Guitar, Backing Vocals) Will O’Connell (Bass Guitar) Roger Malaquias (Drums)

The band released a 4 track demo EP penned “Carnaby’s Treat” back in early January 2013 and has caused a stir gigging around the U.K and have played some very good venues and supported some really great bands along the way. Their songs are very catchy, melodic with a modern punk rock attitude. The band have plans to release their double A-Side Single with 2 videos to follow and are hoping for a release early 2015 and are ready to set the world on fire. “The band are tipped for success”

Sounds Like: The Jam, Oasis, The Who, The Kinks, The Beatles

http://www.facebook.com/theswaggerofficial

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

Roger Malaquias (Drums) sounds rather incongruous

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link

“The band are tipped for success” [citation needed]

dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

xp classic landfill flourish imo, even stereophonics had their exotic spanish drummer

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

Grit-rock band straight out of North London like a Loaded Gun..... modern punk rock attitude. Carnaby’s Treat gedditt! I want to play submissive twister with these guys.

autumn reckoning faction (xelab), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

now that i've clicked the photo link i admit that is not what i expected

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

this photo from the facebook page is pretty cute:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10488051_709481265784237_8718307986577346365_n.jpg

soref, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link

ok, I really like their song 'Carnaby Street' from their soundcloud page, it sounds a bit like Television Personalities

soref, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

The song Carnaby Street sounds nothing like Television Personalities and is kind of awful but I don't think this thread should be used for mocking well-meaning blokes just doing what they do in front of some kids, much as student newspaper stuff doesn't fit in the Worst Music Writing thread.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

Not even when they're called The Swagger.

everything, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

Hmm I don't mind, I'm a very mean person, and yeah "The Swagger" is asking for it... but I know so many sad old people like this. I feel so soft.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

bands least entitled to their name

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

but this would have made a much better guilty pleasures thread

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 August 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

The modern godfathers of this are probably Biffy Clyro, the Scottish trio who've sold over a million albums and 400,000 UK singles to a fanbase that has remained staunchly loyal to them and their anthemic, post-hardcore Simple Minds sound. Having formed in 1995, they seem to have existed at the fringes of British popular music for as long as I can remember, yet their fans seem to comprise a strange, silent majority. Much like film critic Pauline Kael, who was ridiculed for the metropolitan ignorance of her (widely misquoted) statement: "I can't believe Nixon won. I've never met anyone who voted for him," I've never knowingly met any Biffy Clyro fans, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there.

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/understanding-the-phenomenon-of-royal-blood

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Monday, 8 September 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link

I've met them, they're my kids

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 8 September 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

http://www.nme.com/news/the-enemy/79681

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:25 (nine years ago) link

"Clarke's Twitter rant has already garnered support from fellow indie musician Matt Bowman from The Pigeon Detectives. He sent Clarke a message stating: "If I add all my pounds to your pounds for every time they mention my curly hair in a negative tone.. we could buy a tank!"

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:26 (nine years ago) link

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s9g38b

Thing is, though I've got no interest whatsoever in this guy's band, I agree with him. And there is often a complete lack of professional respect between people ostensibly in the same industry (and of professionalism generally, from both musicians and journalists and industry people, etc etc, probably because of the mythos around the industry and 'talent' in general).

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 11 September 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I read that and it did give me pause. (Especially given I've just been really mean about one musician's appearance on ILM already today, ha.)

Like, coming in for knocks and scrutiny of your appearance does just seem to be part and parcel of being a person that gets up on stage before others. But there is a line over which it stops being just knocks and starts being bullying. (Though magically that line appears to be in different places depending on a persons gender or race!)

The underlying issue he touches on, though, is the general meanness and football-match competitive nastiness that the British music press in specific encourages and thrives on. The old Build 'Em Up Knock 'Em Down school. Which... y'know, they do forget that these are human beings under it. And one does get the sense that musicians are just thrown out there and told to get on with it, with no actual thought as to psychological protection, or how people get damaged.

I mean, there's no one who's not been in the music industry for more than 20 seconds who hasn't been told DO NOT READ YOUR PRESS. But social media and twitter and the like means that you really don't have to read your press in order for the vicious parts of it to come to you.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 11 September 2014 15:25 (nine years ago) link

There's not really any sense that musicians are 'employees' of record labels, as a punter. How do contracts work? Is there any analogue between being signed to a label and working full time for a.n.other company in a professional capacity? Or is it more like freelancing? I guess even if there was, that doesn't cover loads of musicians self-releasing, etc, or give them any protection from the press, fans, etc etc.

It's a weird territory, not one I've particularly considered before. I guess I manage people now at work, and Em does too, so we've started talking about HR type things, and the music industry, once again, just seems fucking insane.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 11 September 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

Depends on the label, depends on the contract, it really runs the gamut.

Some people I've known who work for labels, the A&R people used to end up literally becoming babysitters for incredibly damaged artists. But in the reshaping of the music industry, seems like those are the people whose jobs have gone first. And there's always this nebulous ambiguity as to whether people from a record label are actually on an artist's "side" or just trying to sell a product.

Seems it's more the job of a manager (or the much derided role of PR or publicist) whose job it is to protect musicians from shit like this. But I think mostly, there's just an idea that you have to be tough-skinned to survive, and if you're not tough-skinned, you're not really cut out for the role.

(I mean, it's always a dance with artists, that tension of being sensitive enough to produce good art, and yet tough-skinned enough to not care about critics.)

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 11 September 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

It's not going to stop being mean about Paul Banks, though. ;-)

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 11 September 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link

Can't believe he had to google 'orc'

ogmor, Thursday, 11 September 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link

The fuck is a Hobbit jar?

kinder, Thursday, 11 September 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

Out of all the shit bands, I've always found something appealing in The Enemy (see this thread, in which to my eternal shame I described them as "repulsive midgets in tracksuits" but this was seven years ago so forgive me Tom). This is a nicely written response to the haters. It's got that calm Primo Levi righteousness about it.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 11 September 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link

speaking as a not-tall person, am interested in how tall he actually is I will say that. a brief google has a wholly unverifiable source listing him as 5'9" which iirc is the precise average height of an adult UK male

for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 September 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

The Enemy thing I just linked to is interesting to me cos I have a song with the lyrics "You're not a rebel, you're a whore" (terrible I know!) and it is amazing to me that it came from mishearing The Enemy!

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 11 September 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/9EK3K0F.jpg

نكبة (nakhchivan), Saturday, 6 December 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

how many of these bands are still going?

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link

also i forgot to post this link to a good article. Johnny Borrell surprisingly self-aware

http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/landfill-indie-johnny-borrell-razorlight-the-strokes-kooks-definitive-history

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

Futureheads still going, for one

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2016/04/05/bupa-uk-teams-futureheads-launch-body-band-digital-campaign

soref, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link

Still Thinking About You is the fourth studio album by the English band Scouting for Girls. It was released in the United Kingdom on 16 October 2015. The album includes the new singles "Life's Too Short" & "Christmas in the Air Tonight" .[1]

doing this kind of thing ten years into your career somehow feels monumentally worse than merely releasing a terrible first album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqbum7BMp78

amazed to discover that the Wombats released an album that got to #5 in the charts last year

soref, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:28 (eight years ago) link

fucking hell

kinder, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

The Wombats seem to be kind of massive on the sly. Their last album went to 91 in the states, somehow

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link

Up next: Little Man Tate's Meltdown

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link

Just FUCK OFF, Innocent Smoothies
https://twitter.com/innocent/status/717781396392116224

kinder, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link

#indieamnesty was enjoyable for about three seconds

"10 years, 4 albums, well over 1,000,000 record sales and uncountable sell out tours is not too shabby for an alternative indie band, but these numbers aren't what makes me proud personally, the fans are.

"They drove this band, they provided the fire for this decade long journey. I have always loved them and I always will.

"They've kept me going at times when I thought nothing else might.

"To all Enemy fans, I adore you."

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

That thread about kasabianian swagger seems to indicate that this stuff is alive and well

lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 7 April 2016 00:21 (eight years ago) link

i was wondering where to post that johnny borrell interview - surely the only likeable thing he's ever done

still had to lol at the bitter sideswipe he took at rzaorlight's drummer, who wrote the band's biggest hit

a lad of balls (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 7 April 2016 09:26 (eight years ago) link

congratulations to the wombats for giving their band a name that will forever make me think that they're the wombles whenever i hear it (and i'm not even british)

diana krallice (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 April 2016 10:12 (eight years ago) link

And will forever ensure I will not listen to even one second of their music.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2016 10:23 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://www.radiox.co.uk/x-lists/ricky-wilsons-indie-landfill/

Odysseus, Friday, 3 March 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link

"Ricky Wilson's Indie Landfill" sounds like a Viz strip

soref, Friday, 3 March 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

some of the listener testimonials get pretty melancholy

THE AUTOMATIC
“Monster is a total barnstormer and has a proper call and response vocal you can do in the car with your mates when out enjoying the freedom of a new driving license,” says Nick from Northampton. “Such happy and good memories of this song during college. God I miss the mid 00s and the carefree days.”

THE ORDINARY BOYS
Sam from Manchester has this tale of woe: I’m moving house with the family soon and had to get rid of a chunk of my music collection as we don’t really have room for it. The final box I threw out split slightly and I could see the barest glimpse of The Ordinary Boys second album Brassbound peeking out. I will admit to having a tear in my eye.”

soref, Friday, 3 March 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link

radio x must be a depressing listen

Odysseus, Friday, 3 March 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

The View

Robyn from Carlisle says: “Pretty sure underneath the discarded banana peels and old school non flat screen TV’s there much be some of possibly the most Scottish band of all time, The View. I loved how they always had big singalong choruses, and having seen them a few times they preferred their crowds rowdy!”

Read more at http://radiox.co.uk/x-lists/ricky-wilsons-indie-landfill

/the-view/#VTibtBYTPaqLdBaK.99p

Odysseus, Friday, 3 March 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

The Pigeon Detectives

Stephen claims: “Because of their ludicrous name people brush them off nowadays, but those boys had some absolute tunes! Plus, I think their debut record sold over MILLION copies, which is huge compared to today!

I bet Adele is well jealous.

Odysseus, Friday, 3 March 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

i see that chasing cars is the most played song of c21st british radio

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link

destroy everything imo

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

Had to hear 'She's So Lovely' a bunch of times last year thanks to the combo of stupid lazy office culture and streaming services official playlists based on 'feels' and algorithmic reliance on keywords in titles or whatever. This rewards all kinds of trash pop from the last 40 years with renewed and prolonged exposure than is deserved even on an objective level - particularly a problem at Xmas though. Worst first world problems.

nashwan, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 11:29 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I’m so confused by this clickbait article from the Yorkshire Evening Post in which every heading is just ‘Kaiser Chiefs’. Probably the most Leeds editing fuck up imaginable pic.twitter.com/VdqnisuZAs

— georgina🌹 (@georginaallen99) July 29, 2019

wot's the tea mum? (not beef again) (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

i miss nakh

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRD-it5_uIA

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

thank fuck; I was wondering how Northern Uproar were getting on

That was one of the worst things I've ever ever seen btw

kinder, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

brb going outside to contract Covid

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

The Northern Uproar couldn't even be bothered to stand up from his couch.

Morbidly watchable.

kraudive, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

...guy

kraudive, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

Who knew "Imagine" was going to be the high water mark?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

Fucking hell

Good that z-list proto-landfill has its own Live Aid moment

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

Nice to see an appearance from Pete Doherty at 4.27

all things must pasteurize (Matt #2), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

Paul Chuckle, why have you demeaned yourself in this way

Neil S, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

thank fuck; I was wondering how Northern Uproar were getting on

Billy Bibby's not in Catfish & the Bottlemen anymore? ;_;

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

Didn't have the sound up tbh because I'm trying to listen to Webern at the moment. Who the fuck are All The Young? I assume they must have written the song?

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

I think it's by Shed Seven? I only watched a minute of it before it was too much to bear. I do remember liking a song by Paris Angels

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

“Radio legend”, 😐

Jeff W, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

I've got this shit fucking song stuck in my head now, thank you Rick Witter I DON'T THINK

Needed Gary Crowley btw

all things must pasteurize (Matt #2), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

Sweet Jesus, that was soul-suckingly bad. That Witter cunt with his sunglasses on.

Is it being generous to assume some level of self-awareness here?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

I'm sure Leon Northern Uproar would have done his bit from the bog had he not been talked out of it

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Being an American not into indie rock (and also being old) I've heard almost none of these, but looking at this list and thinking The Enemy? no, not the Seattle punk band ca. 1979. The Wombats? No, not the 80s garage rock band. I figure if they can't even come up with an original name, the music must be really crap.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

It is.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

It's intensely crap - and yes, it's very generous to assume any self awareness. The people that listen to this kind of indie actually believe all other music is inferior, often to a stupid degree. Imagine the ego on the people that make it.

kraudive, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

Being an American not into indie rock (and also being old) I've heard almost none of these, but looking at this list and thinking The Enemy? no, not the Seattle punk band ca. 1979. The Wombats? No, not the 80s garage rock band. I figure if they can't even come up with an original name, the music must be really crap.

― Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson)

nirvana?

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

no they were good

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

no names are original tbrr

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

Father time is cruel

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

xp never heard of them but they sound crap as well

kinder, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

this era cured my rockism long before I discovered ILM & co. just horrible

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

it kind of comes out the other end with swill like this, of course it's all horrible but then you remember there are always new 16 year-olds and hey let them have their own shitty skiffle bands instead of constantly being referred back to the lionised skiffle bands of yore

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link


the lionised skiffle bands of yore

that is. . . a really convincing name for one of these groups.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

this was a tonic for me. a good laugh

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

Yes, I'm glad they made it, it's hilarious.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

i could only get as far as the bloke from Dodgy "singing"

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

I had to skip forward a bit

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

i didn't want to watch it but i'm glad i have, really needs its own poll

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

The Enemy? no, not the Seattle punk band ca. 1979

I like that Enemy.

I don't think I've ever actually heard the landfill indie Enemy. There was also a UK punk band called the Enemy, UK82 era, bit mediocre tbh, and of course Chris Knox's pre-Toy Love/Tall Dwarfs punk band

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

Lmao I couldn’t make myself watch the imagine video as it would have made me murder myself but this is classic, thank you based randos

Microbes oft teem (wins), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

#1 favourite bit: the bloke from Zutons having to punch in a second take over the top of his first, with a wipe

#2 favourite bit: the Indie Allstars consisting of bands on Polygram, Parlophone, Sony, Virgin, Island, BMG, London, Universal, Sire, Columbia and Polydor. tbf Northern Uproar, the Pigeon Detectives, and the Inspiral Carpets were actually indie.

#3 favourite bit: the bloke who wrote the song having to punch in a second AND THIRD take, with a wipe (even better, this looks like it might be the same take but he got so out of time in eight bars that it required two edits)

donald failson (sic), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

Uplifting as this is, somehow, Clint Boon's wellend has just made me sad.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

"The people that listen to this kind of indie actually believe all other music is inferior, often to a stupid degree."

I want to know more about this kind of person. Do they really exist though? Or is there just a few bizarro versions of these dudes making a lot of noise about it somewhere?

Evan, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

Everytime this thread comes up I think of 'thirteen senses - into the fire', another generic song from a generic band in a vast, saturated sea of rock piano ballads coming from the uk in the mid 00's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFroDCsVCeY

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

So, the introduction by McGee got me thinking, what if...

Alan McGee is phoning Bobby Gillespie with a proposition.

McGEE: (*impatiently*) "Come the fuck on, Gillespie, ya lazy cu..."

BOAB: (*sleepily*) "... hullo?"

McGEE: "Hey, Bob, it's me."

BOAB: (*brightly*) "'Zat you, Al? Here, how's it fuckin' hangin', wee man..."

McGEE: "... uh yeah I..."

BOAB: "... here, whit aboot this coronavirus shite? Huv ye ever seen the likes? Stuck in the hoose 24/7, nae pubs open, the bookies shut, it's like a fuckin' nightmare..."

McGEE: "... aye, er ..."

BOAB: "... it's fuckin' dystopian is whit it is! And can ye believe me, the bold Boab, huvvin' tae practice fuckin' social distancin'? Whenever ah'm oot and aboot these days ah've goat tae make sure ah don't get mobbed wi mah fuckin' fans - keep the fuckers 6 feet awiy..."

McGEE: (*coolly*) "Happens a lot does that? Gettin' mobbed by your fans?"

BOAB: (*sheepishly*) "Well, no' really but that's no' the point..."

McGEE: "... listen, Bob, if I can interject..."

BOAB: "... interject away, wee yin, interject away!"

McGEE: "Aye, right. (*clears throat*) Now, I've got a propostion for you, Bob..."

BOAB: "... aw right, here we go..."

McGEE "... naw, never mind 'here we go'. I've got a proposition that entails a doing a good deed for the NHS."

BOAB: (*warily*) "Here, ye're no' tryin' tae get me tae fuckin' volunteer at a fuckin' hoaspital, ur ye? Ye know, 'cuz ah'm fine wi' gaun tae ma front door an' clappin' the NHS workers every Thursday night but ah'm no' intae volunteerin' - no' that ah dae go tae ma front door and clap them every Thursday night..."

McGEE: (*exasperated*) "No, Bob, I do not want you to volunteer at a local hospital (*sotto voce) (perish the thought) I want you to lend your musical talents to a project to raise money for the NHS, Jesus!"

BOAB: "Oh right? That's mair like it, wee man! Because the fuckin' NHS is the fuckin' backbone o' the country! Pittin' their lives oan the line fer us, every day and night. Where wid we aw be wi'oot they brave fuckin' men and women o' the NHS? Ah tell ye where we'd be - doon the fuckin' cludgie, that's where! Tae think that ...

McGEE: (*sotto voce*) "Fuck sake, he's going to mention Nye Bevan in a minute..."

BOAB: "... back in 1948 when Nye Bevan..."

McGEE (*raising voice*) "... Bob!"

BOAB: "... founded the NHS or, tae gie it it's fuhll name..."

McGEE (*louder*) ".... BOB!"

BOAB: "... the National Health Service..."

McGEE (*almost screaming*): "... BOBBY!!!!!!"

BOAB: "... here, nae need tae shout, Al, ah'm listenin', ah'm listenin'."

McGEE: "Right, phew, right. OK, so here's the deal, a group of musicians are going to record - at home - contributions to a song that will help raise money to the NHS..."

BOAB (*earnestly*) "... right, Al, goat ye, goat ye..."

McGEE: "... so as I say, the song's already been chosen and all you have to do is sing and film yourself singing a few lines from the song. I've already recorded an introduction..."

BOAB (*interjecting*) "Ye whit??!??! YOU'RE fuckin' singin' oan it??!??"

McGEE: (*exasperated*) "... naw ah'm no' fuckin' singin' oan it! I recorded a fuckin' spoken introduction!"

BOAB: "... jist as well as naebody wahnt's tae hear Alan McGee singing - as the worldwide record sales of Biff Bang Pow prove... nae offence, Al..."

McGEE: "None taken... well, no' much anyway... so, what do you reckon? Can I tell them you'll do it?"

BOAB: "Ah've jist goat a few questions..."

McGEE: (*mumbling*) "... should have fuckin' guessed ..."

BOAB: "Has this project goat a name?"

McGEE (*still mumbling*) "... ye'd think ah'd have learned by now... (*full voice*) Oh sorry, Bob, what was that?"

BOAB: "Ah mean, there was fuckin' Band Aid, and... fuckin'.... Ferry Aid or whatever that wan wis that recorded some shite when that fuckin' ferry sank..."

McGEE (*hesitantly*) "Indie Allstars".

BOAB: "Come again, Al?"

McGEE (*sighing*) "Indie Allstars".

BOAB: (*doubtfully*) "Here, ah'm no' sure aboot that, Al. Ah mean we're no' indie, wid they even wahnt a band plays black music involved?"

McGEE (*deep breath*) "Listen Boab, it disnae fuckin' matter whit the thing's fuckin' ca'd, does it? It's the cause that counts!"

BOAB: "Aye, ah suppose ye're right, wee man. So whit's the song then? Sumthin' classy, like "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" - whit was that again, Hillsborough or Thomas Hamilton?"

McGEE: (*flatly*) "No it's "Chasing Rainbows" by Shed Seven." (*coughs*)

BOAB: "Shed Seven?"

McGEE: (*even flatter*) "Chasing Rainbows" by Shed Seven.

BOAB: "Shed Fuckin' Seven?"

McGEE: "Listen, Boab, there's a lot of good people on it... er... apart from Shed Seven".

BOAB: "Like who?"

McGEE: (*clears throat*) "Er, there's a couple of guys from, er, All The Young..."

BOAB: "Aw the who?!??!"

McGEE: "And, er (*swallowing hard*)... the bass player from the Fratellis... um... plays, er, some bass..."

*complete silence*

McGEE: "... ye still there, Boab?"

BOAB: "Aye, surprisingly..."

McGEE: "... and, uh, Billy Bibby formerly of Catfish & the Bottlemen contributes ..."

BOAB: (*interjecting*) "Can ah stoap ye right there, Al?"

McGEE: (*resigned*) "Aye, awright, ah know..."

*pause*

McGEE: "How's the wife?"

BOAB: "She's fine."

McGEE: "And the kids?"

BOAB: "The kids are fine."

McGEE: "Right well, got things to do and people to ... well, I've got things to do. Catch ye later, Bob, when this all over!"

BOAB: "Aye, will do, wee yin, will do. Aw the best! Sorry aboot that wee crack aboot Biff Bang Pow!"

McGEE: "Aye, well many a true word spoken in jest!"

BOAB: "Aye, mibbe mibbe! See ye, Al!

McGEE: "Aye, see ye Boab!"

*phone call ends*

McGEE: (*to himself*) "Wish I still had Liam's number... provided he hasn't blocked me, like that last time..."

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

lol that is brilliant

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

hahaha can't stop laughing at that video, even the name of the band is a half-assed effort.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

I want to know more about this kind of person. Do they really exist though? Or is there just a few bizarro versions of these dudes making a lot of noise about it somewhere?

Can I introduce you to this classic thread:

a mix between The Stone Roses and Primal Scream with the swagger of Oasis

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

The biggest surprise is that Johnny Dean of Menswe@r seems to be the best singer of the lot or maybe that's just because he gets to follow the Cast bloke who clearly has never heard the song before.

kitchen person, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

Johnny Dean is a great guy, easily the best of the Menswe@r crew, and a good autism advocate on Twitter, unfortunately he's a bit FBPE, but you can't have it all.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

*\o/* @ Boaby

donald failson (sic), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

Worst voice: John Power

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

Is that ex-Nottingham forest goalie Mark Crossley at 4:59??

or something, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

(xp) LOL, yes, John has an almost terminal case of Lennonitis.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

another pure belter fae the boy tom d there, a+

julian sprinkles (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

Worst hair: John Power

kraudive, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

He's John Weak now

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

This is what the group looked like in 2016, what must they all look like now?

https://www.concorde2.co.uk/images/detail/media/image/cast-website-10966.jpg

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

the Indie Allstars consisting of bands on Polygram, Parlophone, Sony, Virgin, Island, BMG, London, Universal, Sire, Columbia and Polydor. tbf Northern Uproar, the Pigeon Detectives, and the Inspiral Carpets were actually indie.

Select magazine from 1991 called, they want their letters page back

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link

brb, giving myself a huge floppy bumpart like Jon Ronson’s back-page byline photo

donald failson (sic), Thursday, 30 April 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

Most of these bands may be forgotten. But so is Nelly too, and Nelly was much worse than anything on this list.

― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:45 AM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 30 April 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

Telling that they either couldn't or didn't try to drag one single woman into the Indie Allstars.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 3 May 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link

"Not daft"

Mark G, Sunday, 3 May 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

nelly’s “uh’s” in the beginning of “hot in here” are worth the smoking ashes of all these British bands combined

brimstead, Sunday, 3 May 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Nice to see an appearance from Pete Doherty at 4.27

― all things must pasteurize (Matt #2), Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:04 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

LOL

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 4 May 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link

Somebody make a Spotify or YouTube playlist of all this stuff. I’m curious to see if it really is as bad as ILM says it is.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 4 May 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

oldest stuff on there is The Farm, guess there are new bands on there too, don't think a single playlist will reasonably encompass all of this... stuff.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 4 May 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

Somebody make a Spotify or YouTube playlist of all this stuff. I’m curious to see if it really is as bad as ILM says it is.

why don't you make a youtube or spotify playlist of this stuff, and then listen to it?

Elon's musk (sic), Monday, 4 May 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

I’m lazy.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

Hahaha there were some defensive comments made by the admin of that “indie all stars” account (Alan maybe?) to every spiteful comment in the video that have since been erased.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 May 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

I doubt McGee had much to do with it given his articulate and meticulously worded introduction. Mind you he is desperate for something to do these days.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

I’m lazy.

I'll spend 4 hours researching and compiling for $100.

Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

Gay Dad?

This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

did not bother the 2010s overmuch tbf

Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:13 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

The top 50 greatest landfill indie songs of all time

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 27 August 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

oxymoronic

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 August 2020 11:10 (three years ago) link

the subhed immediately addresses NV's concerns, and there are some decent gags in the mini-essay before the list.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

Did the term "landfill indie" originate here?

Thoia Thoing, Maryland (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 August 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

Andrew Harrison takes the blame according to the piece.

piscesx, Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

i read bits and pieces, the actual writing was ok

i don't think the term originated on ilm

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

I heard landfill adjoined to all sorts of things other than music years before I heard it used in this context. at least I think I did!

calzino, Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

swagger overload i can't take it

life is beauitul (rip van wanko), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

the list is good imo, I like that it takes pains to explain that while the movement/period was shit overall some of the music was fun, and I also like the idea that non-landfill acts were capable of putting out landfill indie

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

and how some Petey D bands are landfill and some aren't

life is beauitul (rip van wanko), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

During the next couple days I am going to listen to every single one of these songs. My goal is to find one that I like. Just one. My hopes are not very high.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 27 August 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

As I said elsewhere, the very first one (#50) is a good song. Can't vouch for much of the rest except Maximo Park who are still quite good

imago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

yeah, i'll still ride for those two maximo park songs. idk if they really fit into landfill genre, they were a bit weirder than the rest of the ilk.

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Thursday, 27 August 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

The one great thing about landfill indie is, you don't ever have to hear it to know it's shite.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link

a few songs I actually like here, this is the driftnet definition of landfill indie though, like calling any UK band with guitars from the 90s "britpop"

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

Carcass and Bolt Thrower killed the britpop game.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

was going to make jokes about thrash metal bands slaughtering b-list britpoppers, thought better of it

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

From the list I'd stand up for the two Maximo Park picks (Our Velocity should have been their farewell single), Two Doors Down by Mystery Jets (Young Love with Laura Marling from that same album is also great) and the Guillemots single (although Trains To Brazil was their best moment by a long way). Not sure Guillemots really belong here. They were more varied and ambitious than any of the other bands on this list.

Surprised Art Brut weren't featured. Definitely the band I'd still rep for from this entire scene.

kitchen person, Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

i too was expecting Art Brut to feature.

mark e, Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

I will rep for a bunch of Guillemots and Maximo Park tracks, though between them they probably cut 5-6 albums I will never listen to.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

The second Guillemots album was pure commercial suicide. Not sure what they were going for at all. They never really recovered from it making a really bland apologetic third album that nobody was interested in.

kitchen person, Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

I seem to know a good amount of people who will try to convince me The Cribs were actually really good (and still are). I just don't get it. Maybe it's because I'm from Leeds and I couldn't escape them for a while?

kitchen person, Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

ha.
i know its a small scale thing, but weren't they a wakefield band as opposed to proper leeds ?

mark e, Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

Oh yes, you're right. They were certainly extremely prominent around Leeds though. I remember my brother (who posts on here) getting asked if he was in The Cribs a few times. Speaking of bands who actually were from Leeds, no sign of Kaiser Chiefs on this list is surprising.

kitchen person, Thursday, 27 August 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

franz ferdinand are definitely landfill despite what that article says

Oor Neechy, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

First album and FFS put them several miles above landfill.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

Speaking of bands who actually were from Leeds, no sign of Kaiser Chiefs on this list is surprising.

no it's not.

mark e, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

sub-landfill!

calzino, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

I'm more curious about the landfill before time.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

I'd like to stand on the landfill event horizon, where two minutes is a like a million years when you get cornered by some wearisome rock-band guy who just keeps repeating: this isn't fair - i don't even belong here!

calzino, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

franz ferdinand, maximo park, art brit, the future heads... these are all the same band, right? man I hate that stuff.

brimstead, Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link

the cribs, the kooks, everybody has their one “no actually this one was good”

brimstead, Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

andrew harrison takes the blame in his twitter bio (and correctly, bcz he did indeed invent this term)

mark s, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

He did indeed

Oor Neechy, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

He says it will probably end up on his headstone

Oor Neechy, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

He says he was as surprised as anyone that it took off

Oor Neechy, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link

I'm sure I heard landfill television (and loads of t'other landfill elements) used before i heard it in a musical context, but this isn't a mound above a gigantic gravy-yard of rotting black binliner trash i want to die on right now. And this journo doesn't particularly sound like he's busting a gut to take credit either!

calzino, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

23: “Face for the Radio” – The View

lol i looked at this list just to see if the view placed. would've picked "superstar tradesman"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

Surprised nobody's started a poll tbh

imago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link

95% sure I remember TV landfill used as a term to describe late night ITV schedules from about 1996 on

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

Why is it always landfill indie tho and not, say, landfill folk or whatever.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

Landfill classical is definitely real.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

ah Laserlight

brimstead, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

maybe Laserlight is good? Idk

brimstead, Thursday, 27 August 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

man, this list made the rounds on music twitter today

anyway ... i love that Vaccines song

alpine static, Friday, 28 August 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link

Yeah, lots of very angry and upset thirty and forty somethings on Twitter

The Libertines, Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys, Kooks, Fratellis, Kaiser Chiefs, Kasabian, Bloc Party, Razorlight, The View, Glasvegas, Jamie T, Foals etc aren’t landfill indie + are responsible for some of the best music during their times. The rest are despite some good songs.

— - (@CammyLockdown) August 27, 2020

chonky floof (groovypanda), Friday, 28 August 2020 08:58 (three years ago) link

if I were to make a list of "not landfill" bands on there, that would not be the list.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 August 2020 09:05 (three years ago) link

FF and Bloc Party aren't even on the list, are they?

Matt DC, Friday, 28 August 2020 09:09 (three years ago) link

Why is it always landfill indie tho and not, say, landfill folk or whatever.

https://alpha-audio.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/mumford-sons.jpg

Matt DC, Friday, 28 August 2020 09:11 (three years ago) link

Oh God, the replies to this. So if a band are earnest and hard working they should be above criticism?

That @vice feature on ‘Landfill indie’ - lots of tweets about it. Sneery jibes about bands and kids that wanted to make music. Loads of youngsters liked those bands and it was their entry point into loving albums and gigs. I stand with the kids who made the music. Cheap shots

— Tim Burgess (@Tim_Burgess) August 27, 2020

chonky floof (groovypanda), Friday, 28 August 2020 09:20 (three years ago) link

folk was not clogging up the near-entirety of uncritical pop radio broadcast output is why

mark s, Friday, 28 August 2020 09:24 (three years ago) link

weird hate for this everywhere today. the article is obviously a love letter! for the music but also for the time and place. most of the capsule reviews are raves!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 August 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link

mix of not clicking thru to the article and beyhive equivalency

mark s, Friday, 28 August 2020 09:29 (three years ago) link

also (more reasonably maybe now that the war is long won): fans disliking the nailed-on dismissiveness of the generic term for their chosen love object

mark s, Friday, 28 August 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link

the article does a fair job of making a case for this terrible reactionary music, luckily its terrible reactionary fans are filling the gaps

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 August 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

my favourites are the "Band X from this list are completely different to all the other bands" but somebody says it about *every band on the list*

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 August 2020 09:36 (three years ago) link

No denying the greatness of The Kooks

chonky floof (groovypanda), Friday, 28 August 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link

wondering about hypnotherapy to conduct an experiment on whether a bunch of these records would be less bad if i could forget what the artistes look like

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 August 2020 09:42 (three years ago) link

folk was not clogging up the near-entirety of uncritical pop radio broadcast output is why

― mark s, Friday, August 28, 2020 4:24 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

it was in the u.s. circa 2012

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Friday, 28 August 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link

oh no

mark s, Friday, 28 August 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

2007, which is surely the peak of the landfill era, had a LOT of massive radio hits that had nothing to do with landfill indie, it isn't really true that pop radio was entirely clogged up with the Fratellis or the Kaiser Chiefs or whoever.

(There's also a lot of provincial high street rock music that even now gets heavily played on Radio 1 and exists outside of critical narratives altogether.)

Matt DC, Friday, 28 August 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link

During the next couple days I am going to listen to every single one of these songs. My goal is to find one that I like. Just one. My hopes are not very high.

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 27 August 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Why would you do this to yourself. I listened to about 50 albums/tracks from a list recently and I knew I was going to enjoy most of it. How much do you need a song?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 August 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

I’ d like to stand on the landfill event horizon, where two minutes is a like a million years when you get cornered by some wearisome rock-band guy who just keeps repeating: this isn't fair - i don't even belong here!

― calzino, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:37 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Why did I read this to the tune of Once In A Lifetime by Talking Heads

a hoy hoy, Friday, 28 August 2020 12:21 (three years ago) link

imagine thinking that Kooks, Fratellis, Kaiser Chiefs, Kasabian, Razorlight, The View and Glasvegas are all "above" landfill

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 28 August 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

tbh some reluctant respect for writing this article just as we hit 20 years since early 00s 'The' bands rock resugence and trying to distract from that

nashwan, Friday, 28 August 2020 12:31 (three years ago) link

Hey wait we're still in the nu-metal revival era. Don't jump the gun.

If you were being charitable the Kaiser Chiefs might be a tiny sliver above landfill status on the basis that they were huge, and I Predict A Riot is pretty solidly embedded into the national consciousness, but none of the others are.

Matt DC, Friday, 28 August 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link

An act beloved of 6 Music are returning after 15 years.

Can you guess who it is?

Join @steve_lamacq on Tuesday from 4pm to find out. pic.twitter.com/2gHHmUFOHT

— BBC Radio 6 Music (@BBC6Music) August 28, 2020

nashwan, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

it's Arab Strap, wish they weren't doing this on this fucking show.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:05 (three years ago) link

in the interests of science I am going to listen to this top 50 landfill classics playlist today. I think I know about 7 or 8 of these songs and of those I kind of like 1 of them, so my hopes are not particularly high

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 10:19 (three years ago) link

someone is not happy :

https://www.nme.com/features/landfill-indie-snobbery-2741199

mark e, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link

oh wow Mark Beaumont still has a "job"

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link

"unstable new formulas of electro-ladrock" is one for the ages lol

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

there is a delicious irony in almost every line of that piece that i could manage to read before the curling of my toes hurt but apart from a dude my age using the phrase "ageing bitterness" maybe the best thing is a defence of INDIEEEE decrying other people's snobbishness

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

fuck me i might need to poll this

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link

i might need to poll this

bright, intense fission of reactionary anti-glamour, pristine melody, societal cohesion and dangerous sex

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:51 (three years ago) link

i would like to apologise to Mr Beaumont who i now realise is 3 years younger than me and hence understandably defensive when people are mean about the skiffle bands of his late middle age

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

Mark Beaumont has read the title of the article and scrolled down the list without reading any of the blurbs. I mean I basically did the same at first, but if I were being paid to write an opinion piece about it I would probably read it in full before coming to a conclusion.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link

it's funny cos he whines about snobbery then writes some really snobbish shit about The Fratellis and Scouting for Girls

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link

Who exactly he is writing for here? I'm not sure what the demographic is here but I'm pretty sure that no one under the age of 30 even remotely cares about any of these bands.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

yeah i was gonna say it's probably had more attention from people taking the piss than anybody invested in their student disco years, altho it has to be said that some people invest v heavily in their student disco years, they're just unlikely to be reading nme.com in 2020 you'd guess

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:34 (three years ago) link

there may be a smidgen of a point in there somewhere, as a person who listened to a fair amount of what could be termed shit indie music in my teens/early 20s and still has a lot of fondness for it, there is a narcissism of small differences with my disdain for pretty much all of this landfill era stuff. in my case it's probably because most of these bands just weren't being derivative of music I liked, or I would probably have liked them more, god knows I seem to have endless patience for bands shouting over recycled hardcore punk riffs ad infinitum.

maybe there are some people for whom that kind of guitar strumming I can only describe as "jaunty" does the same for them, and who I am I to deny them?

I've made it almost half way through the list, and I actually liked songs by Pete & The Pirates, the Rifles and the Paddingtons so far. most of the rest was really kind of just bland rather than actively upsetting tbh. iirc I liked a couple of Young Knives songs at the time just not that one.

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

ok but whoever it's aimed at the mark beaumont piggybacks off (and extends) the combination amused and offended buzz the vice piece received: unmoored from nme lo! these two decades and counting, internet-nauts still angling for that sweet sweet hate-dopamine* see the response(s) taking story to day like 5, and click thru anyway (maybe a handful will stick with what they see! seems unlikely but even monetary readership boosts are better than drip-drip-drip readship dips)

*(this would NEVER be me)

mark s, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link

Also really this is howling about loss of influence - Vice is transparently anachronistic and past-it but is still more culturally relevant than NME has been for 10-15 years now.

Mark Beaumont's previous column contained a paragraph in which he warned the kids about a return to the days of Turin Brakes and Starsailor, which says a lot his cultural reference points. (Also once again, who is it aimed at?)

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link

tbf a return to the days of starsailor wd probably be bad

mark s, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link

the great stool-rock revival of 2020

Neil S, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

NME banked and pushed on this brand of landfill lad-rock so they owe a lot to these lame bands, but defending them 20 years later is kind of sad.

Vice should respond with an article where a Grandad enlists the relative merits of each Pokémon.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

Also way to miss the point, as I understand it the Vice article is sort of celebrating these songs.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

yes, as Camaraderie noted

NME banked and pushed on this brand of landfill lad-rock so they owe a lot to these lame bands, but defending them 20 years later is kind of sad.

If Mark Beaumont is writing for the blog version of NME regularly, and wasn't just hauled out to grump for clicks, I'd assume he's the only person working for the site who was old enough to read it in the McNicholas era, let alone have worked there

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

Definitely the first instance I have read of landfill-scoffery being a class thing

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

I just checked on Twitter and Beaumont's tweet promoting this article has barely had any attention at all - positive or negative. Bleak.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

Encouraging morelike

Oor Neechy, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

Don't throw the litter out with the landfill

etched upon my eardrums like a hot pie or a pasty (qiqing), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link

there is a delicious irony in almost every line of that piece that i could manage to read before the curling of my toes hurt

― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, September 1, 2020 7:49 AM

Perfect

enochroot, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

I didn't get into Florence and the Machine, but do they really belong here? I haven't heard a lot of their stuff, but I thought they made some respectable music.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link

that was the problem iirc

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 06:06 (three years ago) link

if the UK music industry churned out 90 aspirational kate bush / tori amos imitators every year then Florence would qualify as landfill. as it is she was perfectly acceptable 2nd-tier high-school drama kid music, with two very good remixes

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 07:53 (three years ago) link

england must have at least one barefoot mystic posh person nagging the charts at all times

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 08:02 (three years ago) link

Who is the current one? Taylor Swift?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 08:16 (three years ago) link

Florence is both way too popular and with too much personality to be landfill. There's a distinct moment of commercial bubble bursting to the landfill moment.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 09:21 (three years ago) link

Ummm yeah, these songs all pretty much suck. They’re not out-and-out bad, just really mediocre. “For Lovers” would be a decent song if it didn’t have that goddamn “This is for lovers. Runnin’ away.” chorus repeated over and over and over again. They couldn’t change it up a little bit? Fucking heroin addicts. But as far as bad landfill indie songs go, none of these are as bad as “Fever” by Starsailor.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 6 September 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

This is just incredible

A brief history. In the wake of The Strokes and the New York invasion of 2001, Britain’s moribund post-Britpop guitar scene came alive with brilliant, inventive new music. Geysers of originality and vitality burst from every corner of our slanty-fringed isles.

In Glasgow Franz Ferdinand strutted out the suave art pop of the New Scottish Gentry. In Leicester Kasabian concocted unstable new formulas of electro-ladrock. In the North East The Futureheads and Maxïmo Park battled for pseud-rock supremacy. In Yorkshire The Cribs were revitalising garage punk, The Long Blondes were reinventing retro chic and Kaiser Chiefs’ Britpop revivalism led to Leeds being officially announced 2005’s UK City Of Brilliant.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 7 September 2020 05:31 (three years ago) link

I did like the long blondes

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 7 September 2020 05:32 (three years ago) link

(It's not that much crazier than The Killers getting adoring write-ups in Rolling Stone in 2020, though.)(and ILM)

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 7 September 2020 05:36 (three years ago) link

"Suddenly, nobody noticed"

Mark G, Monday, 7 September 2020 06:50 (three years ago) link

“Take Me Out” winning single of the year in the Pazz and Jop poll was kind of a big deal at the time.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 7 September 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link

This is just incredible

A brief history. In the wake of The Strokes and the New York invasion of 2001, Britain’s moribund post-Britpop guitar scene came alive with brilliant, inventive new music. Geysers of originality and vitality burst from every corner of our slanty-fringed isles.
In Glasgow Franz Ferdinand strutted out the suave art pop of the New Scottish Gentry. In Leicester Kasabian concocted unstable new formulas of electro-ladrock. In the North East The Futureheads and Maxïmo Park battled for pseud-rock supremacy. In Yorkshire The Cribs were revitalising garage punk, The Long Blondes were reinventing retro chic and Kaiser Chiefs’ Britpop revivalism led to Leeds being officially announced 2005’s UK City Of Brilliant.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 7 September 2020 bookmarkflaglink

In 2016 the UK voted to leave the European Union and in 2019 it's voters handed the Conservative and Unionist Party an 80 seat majority in the House of Commons on the back of the slogan "Get Brexit Done".

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 September 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link

this is a well-turned phrase for a poorly wrought activity: "unstable new formulas of electro-ladrock"

mark s, Monday, 7 September 2020 11:33 (three years ago) link

It's interesting looking at the results of the recent ILM 00s album poll and the distinct lack of UK guitar bands who originated in the 00s (so no Radiohead, Portishead, PJ or SFA), with three notable exceptions:

Broadcast (3 albums), The xx (1) and Life Without Buildings (1).

I doubt any of these would have been written about extensively in the NME, and obviously shared nothing in common with the likes of Kasabian/Kaiser Chiefs etc.

If we take ILM as the bastion of good musical taste (which I believe it is), it suggests a real nadir in the 00s for UK guitar music, relying on one band to make 60% of the noteworthy guitar albums of the decade from new acts (and The xx's album came out 4.5 months shy of the decade ending.).

Or maybe, more interestingly, there was an enormous divergence between albums that got rave magazine reviews and those that were of strong artistic merit. In previous decades these two categories would have been much more in line with each other.

Looking beyond the top 100, The Clientele have two albums in the 101-149 range, and there is Frightened Rabbit at 141. Hilariously, the only two "NME bands" in ILM's top 149 are Bloc Party at #146 and Franz Ferdinand at #149, one spot behind Broadcast's 4th best album of the decade.

Needless to say, I find this stuff fascinating.

Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept), Monday, 7 September 2020 12:44 (three years ago) link

fwiw Broadcast also formed in the 90s, although their 1st album came out in 2000, they'd already released a compilation LP of singles in 1997

tbf to the NME they did write about Broadcast at that time, it's almost certainly where I first heard of them, I can't say whether they did during the 00s/landfill era because I'd stopped reading it by then

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Monday, 7 September 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link

I think all you can extrapolate from that is that ILM doesn't skew towards indie rock at all. My personal ballot for the 00's poll contained several new UK guitar-based albums, such as by Clearlake, Late Of The Pier, The Chap, My Computer, Youthmovies and Working For A Nuclear Free City, but all of these bands were fairly unfashionable both on ILX and in the UK music press. I'd argue it wasn't a dark time for UK guitar music but it was perhaps a dark time for UK music journalism, or at least, mainstream UK music journalism.

imago, Monday, 7 September 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

me = landfill indieprog

imago, Monday, 7 September 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

Clearlake's Cedars definitely a glum classic

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 7 September 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

That's fascinating, see I've never heard of any of those bands but I bet they're much better (obviously) than the NME/XFM rubbish that was shoved down our ears during the 00s.

It's interesting to me as to why journalists turned away from actively promoting interesting/boundary-breaking groups during that decade, when previously they would have extolled MBV and Radiohead (for example) in the 90s or The Chameleons/Orange Juice in the 80s.

Perhaps those media outlets were becoming more corporatised and needed to sell an "image" of what UK music was to survive, rather than promoting weird/risky stuff?

Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept), Monday, 7 September 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

And interesting point re ILM's non-indie rock-skewing, but then I'd point to the fact there are more albums by veteran UK guitar groups (ie PJ, SFA, Radiohead) in the poll than there are by new artists in the same vein. I doubt you would get that sort of result in any other decade.

Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept), Monday, 7 September 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link

What was this universe where Late of the Pier were not fashionable? They were hyped so hard, they had their first NME cover before their album even came out! There was a huge amount of hype around the whole ~Nu Rave~ thing, as the NME was trying to fashion it - but I think that the NME had lost cultural relevance in terms of driving (or even documenting) youth movements by that point.

What was the other big band from that scene? Ach, my senile brain cannot remember. They had a single called Golden Skans or something like that. The teenagers I knew around that time loved them.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Monday, 7 September 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

LOL, The Klaxons, now that is a name I haven't heard in yonks.

https://www.nme.com/reviews/reviews-klaxons-9347-335522

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Monday, 7 September 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link

Those bands were really quite shonky but there was something endearing about them after six years of good-hair-good-shoes hegemony. No one tries to lump the Klaxons in with the landfill.

Matt DC, Monday, 7 September 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

LOTP weren't hyped enough! Should have been given the keys to the kingdom tbh.

Matt DC is a known Chap hater and cannot be trusted on this topic lol

Never took to Klaxons. Wonder why

imago, Monday, 7 September 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

Clearlake's Cedars definitely a glum classic

― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 7 September 2020 12:54 (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's really good but Lido is The One for me.

Electrelane fit into this metric somewhere too, as do British Sea Power

imago, Monday, 7 September 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

I was specifically talking about the nu-rave era fwiw. I had forgotten The Chap existed but they were clearly something entirely different.

Matt DC, Monday, 7 September 2020 13:17 (three years ago) link

I too loved LOTP. gone too soon :(

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 7 September 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

...well, if they'd bothered to do a second album!

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Monday, 7 September 2020 13:28 (three years ago) link

adept sez: "Perhaps those media outlets were becoming more corporatised and needed to sell an "image" of what UK music was to survive, rather than promoting weird/risky stuff?"

i'm not sure that "more corporatised" is the right framework exactly -- to me it's as much abt specific actors in earlier taste-wars (= former writers)* now having the more senior decsion-making role of "publisher" (= further up the corporate ladder, largely off-page but still hands-on) -- except rather than think clearly abt how the music-papers needed to be responding to a changing and multifarious world in front of them**, these specific actors simply preferred still to prosecute the ancient taste wars through biddable younger writers. in a sense this is LESS corporate (the corporate shd be coldly caring abt profit margins not whether the cheesy rock-cliche stance of someone's embittered youth is being manoeuvred towards triumph at last)

*(i have someone quite specific in mind but i'm not writing his name in clear on a public message-board lol)
**(inc.not just weird music but most black music and really a fvckton of "non-rock" non-retro music)

mark s, Monday, 7 September 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

Perhaps a poll of this "sub-genre" could prove illuminating? ie, UK guitar bands that would have been raved about and critically feted had they not had the misfortune of originating in the era of the corporate indie press?

From my own limited knowledge, I would add Brakes to the bands listed already, along with Mclusky, whom I'm staggered didn't even get a mention in the 00s album poll thread.

And side-note, I agree the "nu rave" era is a different beast entirely, perhaps centring on Cut Copy's In Ghost Colours (though it's arguable if that fits the nu-rave criteria and they're Aussie rather than UK) which placed high in the 00s poll.

Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept), Monday, 7 September 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

i'm not sure that "more corporatised" is the right framework exactly -- to me it's as much abt specific actors in earlier taste-wars (= former writers)* now having the more senior decsion-making role of "publisher" (= further up the corporate ladder, largely off-page but still hands-on) -- except rather than think clearly abt how the music-papers needed to be responding to a changing and multifarious world in front of them**, these specific actors simply preferred still to prosecute the ancient taste wars through biddable younger writers. in a sense this is LESS corporate (the corporate shd be coldly caring abt profit margins not whether the cheesy rock-cliche stance of someone's embittered youth is being manoeuvred towards triumph at last)

*(i have someone quite specific in mind but i'm not writing his name in clear on a public message-board lol)
**(inc.not just weird music but most black music and really a fvckton of "non-rock" non-retro music)

― mark s, Monday, 7 September 2020 14:32 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes that's an interesting point. I do wonder if it's the result of 80s/90s "indie kids" becoming middle-aged publishers/owners and looking nostalgically back to music that brings to mind those eras, rather than anything challenging?

Like the generational evolution of baby-boomer Rolling Stone eds trashing Husker Du or whoever in the 80s because they're looking for the next Grateful Dead.

Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept), Monday, 7 September 2020 13:37 (three years ago) link

this but with even more spiteful score-settling

mark s, Monday, 7 September 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

Looking beyond the top 100, The Clientele have two albums in the 101-149 range, and there is Frightened Rabbit at 141. Hilariously, the only two "NME bands" in ILM's top 149 are Bloc Party at #146 and Franz Ferdinand at #149, one spot behind Broadcast's 4th best album of the decade.

Needless to say, I find this stuff fascinating.

― Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept)

They did seem fairly excited about Broadcast around The Noise Made By People. The album and Come On Let's Go got respectable positions in their end of year list. By the time Haha Sound and Tender Buttons came out they seemed to have moved on or maybe they just didn't fit this scene they were desperately trying to hold on to. They did that with a few bands who were way more consistent than their fleeting interest would suggest. The Clientele's Violet Hour got a very good review at the time but that was about it. Same goes for The Radio Dept who featured in their top 10 in 2003 but never again despite making even better albums further on.

Looking back I find it interesting some of the bands they barely acknowledged during that time. You would have thought that at least one person would have noticed Spoon at some point during that decade. Electrelane, Ted Leo & The Pharamacists, Phoenix (especially It's Never Been Like That which is basically a very good Strokes record in places), Jens Lekman, The Exploding Hearts, Camera Obscura and Cut Copy all seem like artists who could have fit in there somewhere.

kitchen person, Monday, 7 September 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

FWIW publishers (the job title not the organisation) are usually directly on the hook for the commercial performance of the title down to the balance sheet level. NME had the more nebulously defined title of Brand Director as well which may have had something more to do with what Mark's talking about. In general the more copies you're selling the more leeway your editorial staff will have and if the overall sales trend has been downwards for 10-15 years it's going to hit a point where they go "yeah OK enough, more Oasis more Strokes now."

Obviously the point of all commercial publications aimed at young people is, when it comes down to it, to sell more shit to young people and I'd guess that you could learn a lot from looking at the changes in what's being advertised in the magazine over that extended period. When people fundamentally stop buying the things your advertisers are trying to sell that creates an additional pinch point even aside from circulation issues.

I don't know this for sure but my guess is that editorial budgets would have been slashed again and again over that period and the internet will have exacerbated that. Watering down the product was very much an IPC thing across the board.

So yeah "challenging music" isn't really going to be prioritised up against all that but you can probably pinpoint the legendarily disastrous Godspeed! You Black Emperor cover as the unequivocal end for all of that.

Matt DC, Monday, 7 September 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

Sorry I should probably say re: publishers - directly on the hook for the commercial performance of the title down to the balance sheet level, but (with rare exceptions) also not powerful enough to be fully corporate, a lot of them are seen as expendable and can and will be moved on if they aren't performing, probably more so than a lot of editors.

Matt DC, Monday, 7 September 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

re cost-cutting, didn't someone* upthread (or on another thread?) say something abt a fairly good nme website and comments ecology being devoloped in the late 90s and then more or less abandoned, at least in terms of maintenance or further development or even tweaking? -- which definitely suggests significant cost-cutting (as does the closure of MM of course)

*michael jones? koogs? sorry guys i'm usually quite good at telling you apart (applies double if it was someone else)

re publishers/brand-managers etc -- matt is right here of course, i'm half-projecting from my own (much much earlier) time at nme when the publisher was also more or less the brand-manager, and very much not a former writer or editor (at least not a music-press editor)

mark s, Monday, 7 September 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

That happened right across the board after the dotcom bubble and might be a separate issue to the question of print budgets, or it might just be a case of sinking all boats. Pre-2000 NME had maybe twice as many words in it than the later version.

Matt DC, Monday, 7 September 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

Also fwiw the NME message board was seriously terrible in ways the people running it probably couldn't control. Like it would be a thread entitled 'BEST BAND EVER' and you'd click through the first post would go 'STONE ROSES' and there'd be a loads of 'yes mate' type responses and then maybe a 'fuck off, Manic Street Preachers' and then there'd be a half arsed fight. There's only so much you can do when your readers are right there in large numbers telling you what they are (also why Pitchfork's best move was to allow no comments or community engagement ever).

Matt DC, Monday, 7 September 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

Best Band Ever. Official Poll

mise róna (seandalai), Monday, 7 September 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link

Faux Starp

Mark G, Monday, 7 September 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link

Tell me more about the GYBE! cover feature at NME and why it was disastrous.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

i'd like to hear about that, too

alpine static, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link

https://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/deadmetheney/images/nme/nme1.jpg

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 07:47 (three years ago) link

it was a about a band that (almost) no-one listens to, with no singer, one blurry photo and a couple of short quotes. so no-one really cared

haha just noticed the same issue attempted to stoke the "fight" between Mogwai (see gybe, above) and Blur which was Blur and their fans and whatever NME readship was left not giving a shit and Mogwai getting a good run on merch

オニモ (onimo), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

I believe at the time it was the lowest-selling issue ever? Also wow they were really going hard on post-rock at that point, the implied 'well if GYBE's not your thing here's some Mogwai!'

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

At that point NME was reviewing quite a range of stuff, from chart pop to post-rock (that's my memory of it). I started posting on ILM two years after that issue and it didn't seem like a massive leap.

I also remember reading angry letters, some of which I thought were made up but maybe not, given our Landfill future.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

NME cover connections

https://sites.create-cdn.net/siteimages/5/5/8/55872/69/7/2/6972232/246x317.jpg

nashwan, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

Cover connections continued
http://lucyobrien.co.uk/content/5-journalism/youth-suicide-nme.jpg

Piedie Gimbel, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

not quite but

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8CsAAOSwwiVfEtYY/s-l400.jpg

オニモ (onimo), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

I did like the long blondes

Believe a friend of ILX0r orion named Kevin P used to manage them, maybe dated one of them and released some of their stuff in the US on his label What’s Your Rupture?

Quit It And Hit It Sideways (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

occasional poster Raw Patrick is married to one of them, iirc, yes

imago, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

The only Google hits for the phrase "radar in a bikini" are that 1986 NME cover and an excerpt from a 2015 romance novel:

"And we couldn't do that from the Bahamas?" She stroked his neck, letting her thumbs play lightly along the edge of his jaw. "Just picture it. Under the radar...in a bikini."

Wonder what the NME thing was about.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

Not married but we do have a joint mortgage, a dog and chickens so that's near enough.

I met Kevin P in NY once and discussed obscure Slampt act the Kid Lemon.

Animal Bitrate (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:04 (three years ago) link

radar was the name the nme's media section (films, tv, comics etc) -- i think there was a special (written by edwin pouncey aka savage pencil) on trashy bikini-beach type movies? blast-off girls and so on? "radar in a bikini" is very much the kind of title they wd have used to trail that

i mean there WAS a special on this, i just don't remember if it was in this issue -- i do remember that the editor of the section misplaced (and possibly completely lost) all of pouncey's precious visual material, posters and stills and such and spent days tidying up his corner of the office in the hopes of turning them up

mark s, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:49 (three years ago) link

Radar in a Bikini would be a great band name.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link

i had the youth suicide cover up on my bedroom wall

lol

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

in fact there was a run of 4 "issues" issues of the NME that it belonged to, me and my friend rechristened our semi-hypothetical musical project BLACK YOUTH SEX SUICIDE to mark the occasion

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:00 (three years ago) link

i'd forgotten most of this until i saw that cover, including what year these things happened

A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 10:01 (three years ago) link

I remember the reviews section featured headshots of each of 'The Critics' in the late 90s/early 00s which was very comical

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 11:56 (three years ago) link

I like the Long Blondes too, pass it on!

kinder, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 12:09 (three years ago) link

lol i forgot how hard critics hyped those first couple gybe! albums at the time. it would’ve worked if gybe! weren’t fucking awful.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

radar was the name the nme's media section

ah right that rings a bell, thanks!

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Randomly thought of this momentous thread yesterday and it turns out it's ten years old :/

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 13:31 (three years ago) link

Big thanks to kitchen person in this thread for putting me on to The Radio Dept. - have been thoroughly enjoying their output since last September.

Noodle Vague's run-down of the CONTENDERS from 2011 belongs in some sort of ILM Hall of Fame. It really is staggering how many verifiably awful bands all conspired to become famous and inescapable around the same time. I moved to the UK from Oz in 2005 so I blame myself.

Uncle Boomer Who Can Recall His Past Wives (Adept), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

Am I a dumbass for thinking “Shut Your Eyes” by Snow Patrol is a good song?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

Remember the band South? I actually liked them and it holds up tbh. Are they a CONTENDER here? Or outside the category entirely?

Evan, Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

pretty funny pearl-clutching in the article:

Fan Saffie Yates, who had waited six years to see the band, said she first thought it was some sort of stunt.

She said: "It was very scary to see someone you respect behave like this.

"The bass player normally plays a couple of songs and it was his birthday yesterday. He wanted to play a third song and the lead singer went for him.

"He punched the bassist. I didn't know if it was part of the act.

"The band left the stage and the fans were hanging around waiting to see what would happen.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 11 May 2023 15:41 (eleven months ago) link

three months pass...

funny to see athlete at the bottom. the keyboardist went to my school - he gave a presentation about how the band got started, their influences etc

what was really funny was him talking about how their main influence was, of all things, grandaddy - they were apparently really keen on getting the same kind of decayed, lo--fi vibe as you get on songs like AM 180. i've listened to a few athlete tracks, scouring them for the remotest sign of that influence, and i've never been able to find anything. just another mediocre britpop band

for what it's worth, mornings eleven by the magic numbers still rocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwobxaEoVaM

tremolo, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 11:10 (seven months ago) link

I interviewed that Athlete guy - Tim W - just before the release of their third album and he was super excited about some of the subtle production tricks on it; they’d just built their own studio and were self producing for the first time. I haven’t revisited it, but we talked about The Outsiders and Flying Over Bus Stops in particular. https://mikeatkinson.wordpress.com/2007/09/29/interview-tim-wanstall-of-athlete/

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 19:24 (seven months ago) link

four weeks pass...

congratulations to Toploader for their very late challenge for the title

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 07:52 (six months ago) link

When the revolution comes they can be put on the queue for the guillotine

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 09:28 (six months ago) link

No queuing for Toploader, I'll open a new guillotine especially

kinder, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:20 (six months ago) link

I think in the name of a fairer, non-partisan class enemy cull, it would be quite equitable and justified to execute any bands that play at the Labour conference as well.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link

i'm pretty sure anybody that performs at a Lab or Tory conference was already on my gulag list on aesthetic grounds alone

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 19:45 (six months ago) link

I thought you liked The Strawbs?

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 19:56 (six months ago) link

Ok, saw a tweet saying Toploader are playing at the Lab conference and...it's sort of perfect?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 21:27 (six months ago) link

No matter who you vote for, Toploader always get in.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 22:41 (six months ago) link

isn't truss on record as liking Onka's Big Moka?

koogs, Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:16 (six months ago) link

her legacy was more Magic Hotel

PaulTMA, Thursday, 5 October 2023 02:38 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

this twitter account that posts old photos from getty images is doing a weekend dedicated to 00's UK indie , and it's quite something

https://twitter.com/shitbritishpics

soref, Sunday, 22 October 2023 13:14 (six months ago) link

wow.
until now, i have never ever seen a picture of clor before.

mark e, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:07 (six months ago) link

ha that Kevin Bridges pic

StanM, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:35 (six months ago) link

I'd totally forgotten about the landfill-ized version of the Hollyoaks theme music

If you aren’t sure what any of these bands sound like, then just put this on as it could be 90% of them https://t.co/rTnLZO1AoP

— Great British 00s Indie Images (@shitbritishpics) October 22, 2023

soref, Sunday, 22 October 2023 22:15 (six months ago) link

You mean they haven't been using that theme for the entire 21st century?

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 23 October 2023 03:20 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Symposium are back together, end times

MaresNest, Saturday, 18 November 2023 12:09 (five months ago) link

I'm sad I missed this original poll

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 18 November 2023 13:17 (five months ago) link

The right (i.e. worst) two bands came out tops though

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 18 November 2023 13:17 (five months ago) link

But I feel like I have opinions on almost every single of these bands and histories with a great deal of them also.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 18 November 2023 13:19 (five months ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.