(TOP 5 TODAY, MOFOS!) Yo P&J, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish, but ILX had the greatest 2009 poll of all time! All time! (2009 ILX Albums Poll Results)

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50 -- Gucci Mane - Burrprint 3D (89.5 points, 9 votes) (dnp in p4k, 195 in p&j)

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/999/burrprintfrontweb300x30.jpg

The good news, judging by #50, is that it can only go uphill from here!

so good when this starts w/one of your picks, you feel that your vote pretty much ensured its place here

can i has one ballot sent to me? please...

Never heard of Gucci Mane

Spare your ears. Please...

BURR! BURR! BURR!

sorry, just got in from shoveling snow

looking forward to more BOLD SWEEPING STATEMENTS and MUSIC HARDMANNING from ilxor. great #50, was in my top 10

I promise not to disappoint, k.

was in my P&J top 10 but i shifted to 11 for this since someone nominated an '08 album i love. probably my favorite album title/cover of the year, though.

gucci the glacier: zone 6 polar bear outdoes it on both counts imo

Btw, how is this --

The good news, judging by #50, is that it can only go uphill from here!

-- any more of a BOLD SWEEPING STATEMENT than this --

great #50, was in my top 10

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Both opinion based posts revolving around one's like or dislike of a certain album/placement, what's the issue here again?

POO gucci mane track/guest appearance or whatevs plz somebody

you used capital letters

xp

zone 6 polar bear is a mixtapedia classic for sure but burrprint 3 being the name of one of gucci's big official tapes was inspired -- imo should've used that title for the official album instead of a boring reference to legal troubles

I haven't heard the album but that has to be the best sleeve on the list, no contest

POO gucci mane track/guest appearance or whatevs plz somebody

― Crackle Box, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:26 PM (14 seconds ago)

POX Gucci Mane
letz talk abt gucci mane

if you need to pick one "Lemonade" is by far the most mentioned on the POX thread

why don't you like gucci mane again, ilxor?

this is my favourite track off the burrprint and would be the first place i'd direct the uninitiated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTul1tz3S4U

a-t-lien, babygirl let's have a moon date (LUNARRR)
got eight bedrooms, i'm dyin for a roommate (SOONERRR)

why don't you like gucci mane again, ilxor?

His delivery puts me to sleep. Sounds like Jeezy without the OOMPH that makes his stuff work more often than not.

his delivery was a bit of a stumbling block for me for a while - he just doesn't sound smooth at all - but this mixtape was the one that tipped me over from "i like him but do i get the fuss?" to "fuck yeah i love him" - on "my shadow" in particular the way he rises to the way the beat keeps upping the ante in creepy intensity is really awesome. i really like his voice now, i guess one needs to get used to it but he really doesn't sound like anyone else - he's best when at his most reptilian and slithery, as jordan put it elsewhere, it's as if a komodo dragon started rapping

it's as if a komodo dragon started rapping

This is accurate but, honestly, off-putting. I'm sure I'll hear more of him in the future, who knows... maybe I'll come around.

49 -- Matias Aguayo - Ay Ay Ay (91 points, 11 votes) (dnp in p4k, 226 in p&j)

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3986/ayayaymatiasaguayo480.jpg

Ay Ay Ay!

off to a good start but i don't think this albums list will top the greatness of the trax list. with tracks there's way more of a chance for oddball picks to make it, whereas i imagine this'll be a lot less unique and will bear a much greater resemblance to p&j/pitchfork. i don't remember which albums i voted for, but i'm basically just rooting for 'blaqkout,' 'how to be a lady vol 1' and 'love vs money' for the top three.

Gonna listen to that again right now on my run home. xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOLDPRaJupw

^ Love the way this song all unravels at the end.

off to a good start but i don't think this albums list will top the greatness of the trax list. with tracks there's way more of a chance for oddball picks to make it, whereas i imagine this'll be a lot less unique and will bear a much greater resemblance to p&j/pitchfork. i don't remember which albums i voted for, but i'm basically just rooting for 'blaqkout,' 'how to be a lady vol 1' and 'love vs money' for the top three.

i'm fairly confident that a lot more of my album votes will place than trax votes - one down, pretty sure that i'll have another 11 to come - what i don't know is where they'll place...

suddenly that "make the trap say Ay! Ay! Ay!" display name makes sense

Ay Ay Ay's a good one. Glad this placed, though I didn't hear it 'til after voting wrapped up.

"rollerskate" is irritating as fuck

hoping that burrprint would've been higher but i have a feeling that SVRD is coming up eventually

guys, stephen ilxor will jump on the gucci mane bandwagon this time next year when he puts out his 'love vs. money'

Don't forget, J0rdan, I need Pfork to rep for it too... we're talking at least 8.4 here.

100 ballots received

― musically

heh how neat

Don't forget, J0rdan, I need Pfork to rep for it too... we're talking at least 8.4 here.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:26 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark

i was just zinging -- i understand why people don't like gucci mane

btw i thought this was the endless trax thread in new answers for quite a while

I know I know, I was just replying to zing with self-zing.

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this + the movies thread is gonna be overwhelming

i'm gonna start up the nominations threads for the 05-09 trax/albums poll

As soon as I manage to update my bookmark on one, the other has new answers...

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already stopped following movies thread, moves far too fast and who has time to catch up

psyched for this tho

48 -- Girls - Album (92 points, 10 votes) (10 in p4k, 10 in p&j)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4703/girlsalbum.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4703/girlsalbum.jpg

okay...what is up with that, someone please post the album cover pic for me

it worked both times

i love that album, wish now that it was slightly higher on my ballot

weird all three of these have had less than 10.5 points per vote

really? I am not seeing it, and when I try to view the image directly it says the site is blocked. But I can see the others, idk

i can see both pics

okay, i resisted in the trax thread, but i'd really love my ballot sent to me if poss. it's doglatin at g mail dot com. thank you thank you musically

i think her response to everyone has been email HER and ask for it

oops sorry.

The good news, judging by #50, is that it can only go uphill from here!

I regretfully take this back now that Girls have placed.

The only thing worse than Girls' Album placing is having to see its damn cover twice in a row.

(Fire away, kevin/J0rdan.)

wow! 3 out of the first 3 for me

Zero out of three for me so far, but at least I like two of the three.

I'm 0/3, enjoy the Aguayo album but am new to it, so wasn't on my ballot.

47 -- Baroness - Blue Record (92 points, 11 votes) (41 in p4k, 19 in p&j)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5715/baronessbluerecord.jpg

Hoped that would be higher but at least it made it I guess

hmmm. this bodes not well for the metal quotient.

Enjoying this album, glad it placed.

Judging by the metal poll results, should we expect Mastodon and Converge to place in the next 15 spots or so? I've no doubt Sunn O))) will make the cut, just wondering about the other two...

Re: Ay Ay Ay

"rollerskate" is irritating as fuck

You'd probably hate the album then because all of it's done using those voice samples as the building blocks for the tracks. I love the comical feel it lends the music. These are all funny, silly-sounding songs on the one hand, but on the other they're all so damn light and graceful and sensual. Which is a pretty good trick IMO...

Still need to hear that Baroness, still the best cover ever though.

still the best cover ever though.

...when it doesn't have that nasty writing on it I mean

I suppose that's the downside with polls getting a lot of votes it means niche stuff doesn't do that well.

I hoped YOB and Cobalt would make it but they wont beat Baroness. Im not even sure Converge will make it.

don't really 'do' metal

To a lot of metalheads, Baroness , Converge, Sunn o))), Mastodon etc aren't metal.

Listened to half of the Girls album when it came out, shrugged, moved on.

Listened to the whole Matias Aguayo, actively didn't like, have somewhat come around now but not fully.

To a lot of metalheads, Baroness , Converge, Sunn o))), Mastodon etc aren't metal.

Or they all just kinda suck.

I just realised YOU ARE THAT VILLAGE VOICE KNOBEND OF A WRITER , aren't you? ;)

The actual baroness cover

http://tobeginwitheverything.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/baroness_blue_record1.jpg

and the vinyl
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/888888eight/baronesslp-1.jpg

What is it with cracked eggs this year?

Best packaging of the year, possibly.

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guys, stephen ilxor will jump on the gucci mane bandwagon this time next year when he puts out his 'love vs. money'

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

unless this is an intentional deej parody this is straight up dickhead talk

Would vote Baroness on packaging alone - that's Tuskesque, only even better.

there is absolutely no denying the nirvana that can be attained from a well conceived and packaged vinyl release.

baroness placing = uhoh for metal in general for sure for this poll

unless this is an intentional deej parody this is straight up dickhead talk

― some dude, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:25 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

it was an intentional deej parody

I think most of us thought Baroness might crack the top 20
xp

Just what we need on ILM, another deej. ;-)

ugh i dont even know what i was trying to do there

rephrase: i expect poll will have little or no further metal on it

Sunn O))) is a lock for top 25, Mastodon good to probable chance of showing, Converge unlikely... that's all folks!

Here's a track from the Baroness album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts1sONxQQfc

absolutely beautiful packaging on the baroness, not too fond of the contents.

really beautiful cover

I just realised YOU ARE THAT VILLAGE VOICE KNOBEND OF A WRITER , aren't you? ;)

― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname)

Are you going to posit this in every thread where I say proggy southern metal (Torche excepted) is crap? Just wonderin'.

Metal always gets shafted in the polls which is why there is a metal albums of year poll now on ILM.

It's like they took the packaging/cover art for this Fahey comp...

http://www.normanrecords.com/images/covers/85294.jpg

...and then threw some BBW's (or whatever the Craigslist personal ads term is) in there for good measure.

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shouldn't shock anybody that it was not a big year for crossover metal--i mean converge/mastodon/sunn/baroness are all like 3-7 albums deep or something, could they really be getting many new fans? and no monster debuts/career peaks afaict (maybe blue record is a career peak, i don't know)

is a particular emphasis placed on putting an effort into packaging and the physical artefact in metal, then? like, is this sort of packaging par for the course in the genre or a baroness unusual in doing it...

It's always been about having gnarly pictures on the cover afaict, but the Baroness covers are pretty much a one-off in terms of style and content.

basically relapse and maybe southern lord realized that metal dorks will still spend a lot of money on a physical release if it's nice enough.

ah ok, just wondered whether this was a reaction to, you know, The Downloading Culture, or just something that metal's retained

btw one of the guys in baroness does those covers, he's also done records for skeletonwitch and kylesa off the top of my head

For underground bands definitely. It attracts the collector mentality and it means labels/bands can shift physical copies that many other bands just cant as they d/l it for free. The Baroness comes with a code to download mp3s of the album too. More labels, of all kinds, need to do that.
xps to lex

metal bands and labels are still able to inspire some pretty fierce loyalty from the fans, it can be cool imo

i mean converge/mastodon/sunn/baroness are all like 3-7 albums deep or something, could they really be getting many new fans?

I jumped on the Mastodon wagon, finally, after not really caring for what they did over the last 7-8 years. Currently in the process of going back and revisiting the old albums and finding them a LOT better than I remembered...

Baroness are on album #2, I think, with a few EPs in tow as well.

yes 2 eps 2 albums

metal and indie vinyl (especially colour vinyl) has always been around in all my years of buying music, but the last 5 years it has definitely increased. I always felt the reason Boris & Sunn 0))) crossed over to p4k etc was because their early stuff sold for $200 on ebay, so you had to buy lps on via mailorder within an hour of pre-sales going up on websites if you wanted to get one. This hype then spread to msg boards then blogs then the media cottoned on to that.

Boris & Sunn 0))) crossed over to p4k etc

I wouldn't exactly say they "crossed over" -- they got the coverage, sure, but how many hardcore Pfork readers who are buying Memory Tapes, Girls, She & Him, Wild Beasts, Surfer Blood, etc. are also going out and dropping $15 on that new Sunn O))) album, or however much more the vinyl costs?

Pfork coverage is one thing (as scottpl has graciously pointed out in recent threads, the site has expanded its genre coverage a good deal in recent years), but Pfork readership as a whole latching onto these groups is another.

"Who needs that new Baroness album that placed in the Pfork Top 50 of 2009 when this new Broken Bells album is leaking track by track?"

I think 'The Wire' works better than 'p4k' there.

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The fact that Southern Lord presses 10,000 pieces of vinyl now for Sunn 0))) and Boris albums suggests that plenty are buying.

I love "Minimal" to death, but that Aguayo album is boring as fuck. Glad to see Burrprint place, even if I didn't vote for it.

Any other genres of music go for fancy packaging of vinyl or cds?

not necessarily as a matter of course, but this is coming out soon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Q3gAR7Jj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuSbXdoktAs

less effort but raekwon brought out purple vinyl for the sequel to his famous "purple tape"

"Who needs that new Baroness album that placed in the Pfork Top 50 of 2009 when this new Broken Bells album is leaking track by track?"

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:57 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol @ ridic strawman nonsense

and edan had a booklet documenting like every sound in real time on his echo party mix release

shouldn't shock anybody that it was not a big year for crossover metal--i mean converge/mastodon/sunn/baroness are all like 3-7 albums deep or something, could they really be getting many new fans? and no monster debuts/career peaks afaict (maybe blue record is a career peak, i don't know)

the latest sunn o))) album is easily their best, imo. by some distance.

converge is arguable...it's definitely their strongest since jane doe, which is the canonical classic.

lady gaga's last album seems to have been released as a "pack" as well as the usual formats - http://www.ladygaga.com/news/default.aspx?nid=23864

The Super Deluxe Fame Monster Pack will be out on December 15th. It will include a piece of one of Gaga’s wigs, photos, fan-arts, and a pair of 3-D glasses (which will be useful for something coming up soon).

never saw the purple ob4cl2 vinyl, I'll have to take a look

shabazz palaces gave out clothes patches + download keys with their cds. i guess it's becoming common for a little something extra.

xxxp yeah that's really two separate thoughts i expressed poorly...my point is that conv/mast/sunn are like really well-established and baroness is certainly there with this album--but i don't really know of any other "rising" metal bands from this year that actually got a lot of crossover attention.

46 -- Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career (93 points, 8 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 30 in p&j)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1749/covercamera.jpg

a pair of 3-D glasses (which will be useful for something coming up soon).

Michael Jackson Grammy tribute??

Cover connection with Camera Obscura:

http://betterpropaganda.com/images/artwork/The_Golden_River-Frog_Eyes_480.jpg

Just real quick did anybody else mention or notice the phallic-ness of the egg on the Baroness art? It seemed pretty blatant after I noticed it.

Results 1 - 10 of about 137,000 for "camera obscura" "belle and sebastian" with Safesearch on. (0.23 seconds)

Jan 10, 2005 ... The Belle and Sebastian similarities are many, from Camera Obscura's hometown, to the mod pictorials used in their cover art, to the careful ...

Camera Obscura Challenges Belle and Sebastian To Scottish Twee Deathmatch. Not really, not at all. But while we're all Belle and Sebastian whores, ...

Tracyanne Campbell and her band mates in Camera Obscura have labored under the shadow of their fellow Glasgow musicians Belle and Sebastian. ...

oh yeah, Shabazz Palaces

http://www.thestranger.com/images/blogimages/2009/05/15/1242428730-dumb_eyes_cd_pkg.jpg

Michael Jackson Grammy tribute??

it probably was, actually

nnghhh didn't even know camera obscura were still going...the epitome of weedy, wimpy indie. useless.

46 -- Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career (93 points, 8 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 30 in p&j)

not to be confused with the Scottish twee pop band of the same name

what an annoying album title, too

Love seeing Camera Obscura there. I feel pretty strongly that this is by far their best album, but it seems like get gets short shrift. I'm blown away that it didn't end up in p4k's top 50, and 8 votes even seems astoundingly low here.

what an annoying album title, too

Trying to be as un-snide as possible, but have you actually listened to the title track?

not sure you need the safesearch on for that particular google

no, i was just kneejerking! i'm heading out now but feel free to tell me why it's not irritating.

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hated the production on that camera obscura album--way too much reverb and soft-focus orchestration that makes it sound like no actual instruments are being played.

I just think the composition on that album was stone-solid, especially on that song. I get the kneejerk reaction, and I'm not a fan of their earlier stuff for those same reasons, but My Maudlin Career really blew me away.

not sure you need the safesearch on for that particular google

Hahaha, true. I'm at the office, I think everything is searched that way by default (a good thing).

45 -- Fall Out Boy - Folie a Deux (96 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, dnp in p&j)

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5175/falloutboyfolieadeux.jpg

really like that album

ffs

That's less votes than anything on the (smaller) singles poll recieved. Over 15 points per vote!

was 6th on my list~

That's a 2008 album I thought?

Also it sounds kinda like Orson.

i didn't vote for camera obscura's album, but seeing that it placed leaves me even more confused for the lack of traction for french navy. imo the rest of that album doesn't come close, but i've admittedly not spent much time with it.

Is that pedobear on the Fall Out Boy cover?

That's a 2008 album I thought?

Yeah, this one came out in December 2008. For shame...

#196 in P&J 2008.

LOL @ EZ Snappin

Wish we could remove FOB 2008 and bump #51 up to its rightful place in the 2009 poll. :'(

#51 was robbed!

What a disaster for pedobear.

Okay, I get that it was a late-2008 release, but Folie a Deux probably shouldn't have even been elligible. 3/4 of its singles came out in 2008, and the fourth one was negligible. Did Fall Out Boy really make some kind of an impact in 2009?

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They broke up -- that's a huge fucking impact as far as my ears are concerned.

It's made an impact in 2010; I had no idea pedobear had hit the mainstream.

"The Sweetest Thing," "My Maudlin Career," "Honey in the Sun" ≥ "French Navy"

...knew some sort of impact joke was coming

44 -- UGK - UGK 4 Life (96.5 points, 10 votes) (dnp in p4k, 311 in p&j)

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3825/ugk4life.jpg

listening to 'folie a deux' today -- definitely in my top 10 of the decade, my favorite rock record since the los campesinos! debut

xposts Pedobear - the only thing about Fall Out Boy that can make me raise a chuckle.... I haven't and will never listen to that album, but will someone who has explain to me why it received even a single vote?

da game been good to me

the Fall Out Boy had the second highest average vote, the album with the highest average won't be for a while but it was just a bit higher than FOB

that ugk album is dope but i didn't vote for it

fall out boy is just a bridge too far for this guy

Is that pedobear on the Fall Out Boy cover?

― EZ Snappin,

is the funniest thing I've read on ILX this year.

UGK = Yesssssss!!

modern rock is like the last bastion of generally popular genre that indie crowds just won't fuck with -- of course tons of it is shit, esp on an album level, but it means that people don't realize it when a class like 'fad' goes right under their noses

i wonder who else voted for it

i know ship did, maybe tim if he voted, i guess johnny crunch, morty i assume, and me -- that leaves 2 or 3 others

Was bummed about not ranking my songs ballot, but not ranking my albums ballot has been awesome in re pushing Camera Obscura and UGK onto the list.

If I remembered to vote I would have had FOB on there. I didn't tho.

to alleviate the mystery, i was not one of them xxpost

dan says john voted for iwrestledabearonce

Fall Out Boy split release with iwrestledapedobearonce out march 2011

grrrrrr

thats the sound awesome bands related to bears make

working on a theory here that any bear related bands (name or album coverwise) suck. fall out boy, iwrestledabearonce, grizzly bear. hmmmm

Bear Naked Ladies

You more a goat or wolves guy john?

both have their problems, but more wolves i think

Bear in Heaven.

also i just remembered art bears so my theory falls apart under scrutiny

Less earnest metal handwringing, more lolling at the low positioning of that Girls album please.

John you will love this
http://www.god-is-myth.com/images/wolfmangler_cover_BIG.jpg?749

ILXchan

not low enough. never low enough. xxpost

what would a year end poll be without metal handwringing

i voted for f.a.d., too - it was second on my list! (but i can't remember if they were ranked or unranked) i am really stoked that it went through! i am going to listen to it in celebration!

xpoooooosts

it was #2 on mine too, ranked

Jesus, I hate to ask what your #1s were...

Did you accidentally rank your lists in reverse order?

it's a fucking awesome album, dude, all big tunes and snotty stupid-clever lyrics: i can't help it if you don't want to hear it.

yeah sorry, go listen to stars of the lid or w/e

I've heard it and, well...better to say nothing than to say etc.

I should've voted for Stars of the Lid, actually! I think that came out in 2008 also.

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i would like to hear your analysis of folie a deux

43 -- Henrik Schwarz, Âme and Dixon - The Grandfather Paradox (98 points, 9 votes) (dnp in p4k, 816 in p&j)

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2659/333i.jpg

no idea what this is

Same.

i would like to hear your analysis of folie a deux

Tough to analyze something when it's hard enough to tolerate it once through and listen in any sort of receptive, analytical manner.

oh come on, it's radio-friendly pop-rock, not the outer edge of taste.

My analysis:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4oOKNyYzKJs/SnOkzIXBX6I/AAAAAAAABi4/44uIkyoAvWk/s320/Adding+Zest+Nails+on+Chalkboard.png

i can understand not digging it if you don't value big vocal hooks in your rock music... but that's about it

btw, radio-friendly pop-rock is the outer edges of taste in a lot of places (the internet)

I like plenty of radio-friendly stuff, I just don't care for Fall Out Boy and this album is no different. Perhaps I don't value big vocal hooks in my rock music...in fact, overall, I'd say that's a fair estimation.

jesus how many posts are u gonna repeat "it's shit" for

Okay, I get that it was a late-2008 release, but Folie a Deux probably shouldn't have even been elligible. 3/4 of its singles came out in 2008, and the fourth one was negligible. Did Fall Out Boy really make some kind of an impact in 2009?

this strikes me as bein all 'wheres obamas birth certificate?'

it only finished 45th ffs chill out, everybody

Henrik Schwarz, Âme and Dixon - The Grandfather Paradox is an examination of "minimal" progenitors, i believe. think it made the RA mix decade list

or maybe just 2009

i was surprised that the album was nom'd but i love it so much that i didn't really care -- same for the t. swift album which is gonna place too

modern rock is like the last bastion of generally popular genre that indie crowds just won't fuck with

even ignoring yr susan boyles or whatever, this hasn't been true in my experience.

weird results so far imo

Did you accidentally rank your lists in reverse order?

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:53 PM (6 minutes ago)

LOL!

late to the game finishing coint and plick
I also voted UGK.
And that's about the only thing on here I'm familiar with or care for.
Getting the aguayo and baroness shortly tho.

jesus how many posts are u gonna repeat "it's shit" for

When did I say this the first time?

do fall out boy voters fuck w/kings of leon? later foo fighters?

Henrik Schwarz, Âme and Dixon - The Grandfather Paradox is an examination of "minimal" progenitors, i believe. think it made the RA mix decade list

yah just double-checked it was #11 on their eodl. the 1st disc in partic is really amazingly sequenced and thoughtful. only thing listed so far thats top ten for me. although i do like the girls album ooooooookay

xpostin' - w/ pitchfork era indie there's so little commonground w/ poprock that the narcissism of small differences thing falls away a bit. the genre indie ppl hate on most might just be "bad indie"

do fall out boy voters fuck w/kings of leon? later foo fighters?

"Do emo kids also like post-Nickelback Southern dick-rock? How about washed-up, Nirvana outcast music?"

i like the KOL singles off their last album, i haven't heard latter day foo fighters

the FOB album (the last two) are much more invigorating than all other modern rock tho & also much more diverse (soul, hair metal, some funk licks, productions by babyface & pharrell etc)

i used to dig kings of leon circa 'youth & young manhood' but havent liked anything ive hears since and think that may'ev aged badly

never listened 2 later foos

yeah 'youth & young manhood' is dope

i like the KOL singles off their last album

...

..

.

*sigh*

It is funny getting so up in arms about Fall Out Boy after repping so hard for Taylor Swift.

kinda o_o at j feeling "sex on fire" myself, but "use somebody" isn't totally awful

If my sex was on fire I'd go see a doctor, stat!

42 -- Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest (98.5 points, 10 votes) (6 in p4k, 6 in p&j)

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2820/grizzlybearveckatimestc.jpg

"sex on fire" is def my least favorite one, but i really don't mind it. if you meet it on its own terms it's no different than, like, mgmt. "use somebody" is way better tho

lol

if you meet it on its own terms it's no different than, like, mgmt.

I see the comparison, since both bands belong in the garbage bin.

Glad to see Grizzly Bear so low, too.

Musically, can you post something good so I can stop coming off like the biggest hater of all music ever made? Thanks! :D

happy to see Girls and the Grizz this low

haha xp

So, that Matias Aguayo is really good...

*whistling*

"Veckatimest on Fire"

(sorry)

You know, I only just figured out that the Grizzly Bear cover was a blonde guy talking to a stormtrooper in a pink dress.

Pedobear > Grizzly Bear.

i don't think "veckatimest" and "sex" have much in common

not just any blonde guy, but Beavis with more quiff xposts

You know, I only just figured out that the Grizzly Bear cover was a blonde guy talking to a stormtrooper in a pink dress.

I think the blonde guy was the delivery guy in the "Money For Nothing" video.

xposts

Everyone cry a tear and share a moment of silence with Ed:

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music2/edletterman.jpg

yeah 'youth & young manhood' is dope

glad I'm not the only person who feels that way

I heard "Sex on Fire" a couple of weeks ago over the speakers in the middle of a trade show without realising what it was, and it was kindof awesome. I doubt that would translate well to me having it on my iPod and actually listening to it, but really it could be a whole lot worse.

xp :'(

Everyone cry a tear and share a moment of silence with Ed:

Man, you are *seriously* punchy today.

don't they just play tomorrow? it can't be that big of a deal

I had to google him. I had no clue who Mr. Droste was.

But once I did it was funny. Ha!

mark me down as another person who didn't really understand why fall out boy was nominated but voted for it just the same. nice to already have two on here (that and ugk).

Man, you are *seriously* punchy today.

"Punchy" as in "sharp"/"witty"? or as in "punchable"?

Wishful thinking, I know.

ahhh i'm really happy ugk placed, i didn't think it would! i never knew quite how to sell that album (to people who hadn't listened to it anyway): it's like, ugk doing what ugk always have done, but really fucking well, and a really appropriate and kinda moving epitaph for pimp c?

unsurprised that the grandfather paradox showed up; i enjoyed listening to it but i did feel it got undue attention because of the whole ~educational~ aspect of it - by no means was it a standout mix in itself for me. it gives me hope that the hyperdub comp will show up though.

lol @ the way ilm really does not give a shit about grizzly bear

that FOB album was pretty good. forgot about it at voting time, tho
Veckatimest was another one these high on my list. Great headphones album. Surely the victim of negative ILM groupthink

mark me down as another person who didn't really understand why fall out boy was nominated

I complained at first, but given that Taylor's also nominated I guess it's just appropriate that those late-year albums squeak into next year's proceedings. Hey, why not...

all i have to say about fall out boy is

ashlee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pete

taylor's uk release + the platinum re-release were 2009

it gives me hope that the hyperdub comp will show up though.

YES!

the platinum re-release

Cool, let's throw those 2009 Beatles reissues into the albums poll while we're at it, k?

haha, i agree actually -- i figured the taylor album was slipping in because of the british technicality

given that most official publications release their year end lists in mid-december, and likely compile them in late november, i don't think it's a huge deal to include albums from december the year before. especially here where no one is payed to do this and some of the voters aren't even professional music critics i think it's fair to allow some slack to catch up.

yeah i think that's pretty much otm

it's not really a british technicality when the album was released in far more countries in 09 than 08

Veckatimest was another one these high on my list. Great headphones album. Surely the victim of negative ILM groupthink

didn't vote for the album personally but this is otm. it got so much shit slinged at it from people here and although i get the kneejerk anti-corny indie fux hatering, it really doesn't deserve it; it's a lovely album.

But it's not a late November 2008 to whenever you stopped paying attention in 2009 poll. It's a 2009 poll.

It's obviously not a big deal, it's just a bit deflating to see something so (for lack of a better word) dated skew the results.

What Samosa said xp

it's not really a british technicality when the album was released in far more countries in 09 than 08

That makes it make a little more sense. But it's like Spin picking White Blood Cells as the best album of 2002 because it was reissued on a new label--you can rationalize it, but it's still pretty boring.

last one for today:

41 -- NOMO - Invisible Cities (101 points, 7 votes) (dnp in p4k, 356 in p&j)

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1117/45993888.jpg

xp grillz - if it really bothers you just wait til musically posts the big list and replace #50 with #51 etc. imo there's no point getting too literal/pedantic about it, an album that came out a couple weeks before nominations is just as robbed for not showing up on the 08 list as whatever the #51 album is this year.

xpost

I think people here would like Veckatimest a lot better if it had gotten a #42 album of the year level of hype instead of the blowjob-fest it actually got. #42 album of the year is probably exactly right. (and Animal Collective would be #39)

I've never even heard of that Nomo album, what is it?

It's obviously not a big deal, it's just a bit deflating to see something so (for lack of a better word) dated skew the results.

Nobody cared when Love/Hate placed in the 2008 poll after being released in December of '07.

yay NOMO!
It's jammy, weird and wonderful. It's Nomo's new album 'Ghost Rock'

Invisible Cities isn't a quantum leap, but it's very enjoyable.

nomo is like... synth pop + african percussion? or something.

had never even heard of nomo! will try to check out, forks or m@tt what is a good song to get started?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOrNrLCIPug

xp grillz - if it really bothers you just wait til musically posts the big list and replace #50 with #51 etc. imo there's no point getting too literal/pedantic about it, an album that came out a couple weeks before nominations is just as robbed for not showing up on the 08 list as whatever the #51 album is this year.

Not to get, you know, too pedantic, but FaD was preceded by two singles and sold 150,000 copies in its first week, so it's not like it wasn't out there to take notice of. It's not some brand new artist we're talking about here, it's one of the biggest rock bands of the last five years.

Streaming Invisible Cities on Lala via Pitchfork. First few track sounds like spacey jazz-funk with echoes of dub, maybe?

xp I would try the Invisible Cities album Lex.
I saw these guys live on my 30th birthday with Tza and Jon Williams.
good times

spacey jazz funk with dub and afrobeat is not far from it

They're better live but not so much live on tape. Lala is a good call:
http://www.lala.com/#album/2882585238330814678/Nomo/Invisible_Cities

Nu Tones is such a good time. Okay, ahmastop gushing now.

Fucking awesome to see NOMO in there, PS. It was one of my nominees, but I don't remember if I actually voted for it or not...

I'd say start with "Patterns" from this one, "Rings" from Ghost Rock, and "Fourth Ward" and "Reasons" from New Tones.

yay NOMO

I was the #1 for FOB :)

my first thought was actually that they must be really enjoyable live

that was pretty good, i kinda had that "they're talented but i don't know what i'm meant to DO to this" feeling but i like the way they don't let the listener rest on their laurels. i don't think "post-pub drunk" is the ideal situation to hear them in tbh.

xps re nomo

50 -- Gucci Mane - Burrprint 3D (89.5 points, 9 votes) (dnp in p4k, 195 in p&j)
49 -- Matias Aguayo - Ay Ay Ay (91 points, 11 votes) (dnp in p4k, 226 in p&j)
48 -- Girls - Album (92 points, 10 votes) (10 in p4k, 10 in p&j)
47 -- Baroness - Blue Record (92 points, 11 votes) (41 in p4k, 19 in p&j)
46 -- Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career (93 points, 8 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 30 in p&j)
45 -- Fall Out Boy - Folie a Deux (96 points, 6 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, dnp in p&j)
44 -- UGK - UGK 4 Life (96.5 points, 10 votes) (dnp in p4k, 311 in p&j)
43 -- Henrik Schwarz, Âme and Dixon - The Grandfather Paradox (98 points, 9 votes) (dnp in p4k, 816 in p&j)
42 -- Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest (98.5 points, 10 votes) (6 in p4k, 6 in p&j)
41 -- NOMO - Invisible Cities (101 points, 7 votes) (dnp in p4k, 356 in p&j)

so far UGK is my only vote

i know placement schadenfreude is just the lamest, but I'm awful happy to see NOMO ahead of grizzly bear

Hmm. Didn't vote for Folie a Deux, because I'd been listening to it for a huge chunk of 2008, but it's probably better than at least 50% of my 2009 albums ballot. Curious where we go from here - more stuff I haven't heard/heard of here than on trax.

never even heard of Nomo before but they sound awesome!

if you have an issue with a song/album's nomination, it's more helpful to bring it up during the nomination/voting threads so I can remove it or people can discuss it, there's not much to be done now.

yeah i think i knew every song on the trax list besides maybe 3 or 4 - albums will at least have more stuff to check out for me. 2/10 so far

it's dec 08, i think it flies

http://sites.google.com/site/pnauert/Screenshot2010-02-10at4.31.45PM.png

ha

oh ugh i just looked over my ballot and i gave a high placing vote to an album i completely detest because i got it confused with something else o_O

if "Dark Was the Night" places it is my dumb goddamn fault and i will ban myself from ILM

ha it will not place - i would advocate the bannings of anyone who voted for it if it does, however

banning*

i bought that nomo album but never really got into it that much--something seems kinda overproduced or vibe-sucking about it? i still like their concept tho so it's cool to see them up here.

i was a vecky voter but it was pretty low on my ballot--no ish with it placing in the 40s.

i will listen to the aguayo and ugk records. i think i liked the one aguayo song i heard.

oh and btw just to close the loop on fall out boy/modern rock, i was thinking about it walking back from the indian place where i got takeout and i realized this--from 1996-1999 i basically did nothing but listen to modern rock radio. and it's really hard for me to enjoy stuff from today that would slot into that format, or even basically think about it objectively. like i'm streaming a few of those f.o.b. tracks and they really just sound like nothing to me--i get a really blank feeling.

Why do people keep saying: "look this cover is just like that," and then posting similar covers which really aren't that similar?

I don't know what Shabazz Palaces is, but I want that packaging.

Ignore the stupid thread title, but they are kind of ramshackle undie rap by one of the dudes from Digable Planets. I like them a lot

Shabazz Palaces - Most important musical group/moment in Seattle since Nirvana at OK Hotel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMZKPaSF0GE

UGK - Da Game Been Good To Me (youtube)

excellent Pimp C hook and coda, aggressive Bun B verse

UGK - Purse Come First (youtube)

some anger, paranoia and political commentary that would fit right in on Goodie Mob's Soul Food. Except with some religious apocrypha thrown in, and a money-over-everything hook apropos of nothing much

Those aren't anywhere near my favorite tracks on that album.

had the youtubes to hand. post 'em.

"da game been good to me" is def a highlight for me - would also recommend "used to be"

from puppy to dog, from tadpole to frog, from PIG TO A MOTHERFUCKIN HOG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1cYtBbv3XA

that shabazz palaces sounds great, what have they released that's worth getting?

yeah "used to be" is a favorite, but it's a pretty even album. i've actually probably played the two interludes, "texas ave" & "7th street" more than anything else

xp

xp: they just have two untitled mini-albums, both of which are god

good*

"she luv it" is my jam on the ugk

"Used to be" is the shit! Gets me so effin pumped, but seriously just about every song is awesome. UGK was my #6.

Aaaand Girls was my #5, probably ruining the goodwill of those who are with me on the UGK.

lol @ justen u_u

although i get the kneejerk anti-corny indie fux hatering

Just to clarify, this may be why *some* folks hate on Grizzly Bear but personally, it's not a "kneejerk" reaction -- I've heard each of their albums as they've come out (gave them a big chance from the start due to the Warp Records association) and I just haven't enjoyed 'em at all -- not kneejerk. It's not an "anti-corny" thing, either -- "corny" is one of the last ways I'd describe GB, if anything they are guilty of being overly serious and boring. And it's not an "indie fux" thing -- I like plenty of stuff that can be classified as "indie," including YYYs and AnCo, two fellow GAPDY bands. Basically I just don't like GB. At all.

lol plenty of people on ilm like grizzly bear - i actually liked their other album. most of the more vocal posters just don't really care one way or another about veckatimest

thread needs less bitching about grizzly bear, more bitching about girls and more talk of the grandfather paradox in general. regardless of the 'preachy' aspect of the mix (which has been overstated on ilx imo) this is a well-mixed, amazing collection of music. thooo i think i might like the unmixed collection even better- for some reason there are great tracks that appear on one disc and not the other?

I like that Shabazz Palaces track, and the video

grizzly bear is OKAY but pretty much just OKAY based on the two albums i heard. not sure i see why i should care more than i do which means you don't get near my top hundred.

I haven't checked this site in awhile and I come back and people are still freaking out about how much they hate grizzly bear. Get over it! Major hive mentality round these parts.
On a side note that Matias Aguayo album is great. Really great.

I haven't checked this site in awhile and I come back and people are still freaking out about how much they hate grizzly bear. Get over it! Major hive mentality round these parts.

lol

have barely heard much by any of the GAPDY bands but G is i guess the most meat and potatoes indie rock band of the bunch, right? no crazy noise or dance beats or synths or whatever to redeem them as 'forward-thinking' or 'eclectic' or w/e? i always figured that's why they were the easy target out of the bunch.

I agree, most conventional in terms of g/b/d format, but not in the way the songs are structured, which I think is very complex, certainly more than Phoenix or Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Also more sedate and somber, which I think puts some people off.

basically all of grizz bear's reference points are pre-'75 so they seem square

I think I was the person who nom'd Fall Out Boy and obv I voted for it. I bought the album in January 2009. I guess I'm dated given so many people already hated the album in December 2008.

tbf some of them probably hated it before it came out.

regardless of the 'preachy' aspect of the mix (which has been overstated on ilx imo) this is a well-mixed, amazing collection of music

yeah, i did enjoy the grandfather paradox, but it did seem that angle got it a lot more attention compared to say, dixon's own temporary secretary mix, which i thought was way superior

It got more attention because it had Heinrik Schwarz's name on it, that probably helped. He looms pretty large over Innervisions.

grandfather paradox didn't really do much for me to begin with cos i was trying to listen to it like a dance mix, which it isn't, but over the year it impressed me more and more with the way it builds and sustains a mood and just the seamless seamless flow of it. it became my default hangover music for a while - high praise imo.

So what exactly is on Grandfather Paradox?

CD1: Mixed
01. Steve Reich & Pat Metheny - Electric Counterpoint - Fast (Movement 3)
02. Etienne Jaumet - Repeat After Me (Âme Mix)
03. Kenneth Bager - Fragment Eleven… The Day After Yesterday Pt.1
04. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (Out)
05. Cymande - For Baby Oh
06. Patrick Moraz - Metamorphoses 1st Movement (Live)
07. To Rococo Rot - Testfeld
08. Mathematics - Blue Water
09. I:Cube - Acid Tablet
10. Ø - Atomit
11. Conrad Schnitzler - Electrocon 11
12. Green Pickles feat. Billy Lo & M. Pittman - Feedback
13. La Funk Mob - Motor Bass Gets Phunked Up (Richie Hawtin's Electrophunk Mix)
14. John Carpenter - The President Is Gone
15. Yusef Lateef - The Three Faces Of Bala
16. Robert Hood - Minus
17. Raymond Scott - Bass-Line Generator
18. Moondog - Invocation

CD2: Unmixed
01. Conrad Schnitzler - Elektrocon 11
02. Steve Reich & Pat Metheny - Electric Counterpoint - Fast (Movement 3)
03. Liquid Liquid - Lock Groove (Out)
04. To Rococo Rot - Testfeld
05. Patrick Moraz - Metamorphoses 1st Movement (Live)
06. Young Marble Giants - N.i.t.a
07. Kenneth Bager - Fragment Eleven… The Day After Yesterday Pt.1
08. Arthur Russell - Make 1, 2
09. John Carpenter - The President Is Gone
10. Robert Hood - Minus
11. Raymond Scott - Bass-Line Generator
12. Pyrolator - November Mühlheim
13. Cymande - For Baby Oh
14. Can - Sunday Jam

Oh thanks - that looks great

I just got this... its lovely so far.

I'm not a Grizzly hater, it's just whenever I've sat down to listen to an album it's been so washy and dull. There literally isn't anythign going on. It's hard to have an opinion on something that just goes straight over my head. The first Gullemots, save maybe two tracks, was like this as well.

'Washy and dull' is a better fit for Yellow House than it is for Veckatimest imo, cos that was my initial response to it. But then I noticed how the songs were all pulled taut in strange places like beds made wrong, and then it started having this weird fascination for me. Veckatimest was a lot more instant for me.

The low positioning of both Grizzly Bear and Girls gives me some hope that Merriweather Post Pavilion won't actually be number one here.

Hey remember last year when the Fleet Foxes came up and everyone was all 'oi, Grizzly Bear are so much better'?

Not sure how much of an intersect there is between Girls fans and Animal Collectors.

Animal Collective wont be no1

I deliberately left MPP off my ballot. CONTROVERSY.

1,2,3 of The XX, AnCo and Phoenix, though I hope I'm wrong.

1,2,3 of The Cold War, though I hope I'm right.

Fever Ray will be higher than Phoenix says I.

I deliberately left GPDY off my ballot, even though I think they're all basically okay to some extent.

(to be clear, those would have been vying for 20th place or something)

Fever Ray will definitely be higher than Phoenix, maybe higher than the XX as well.

I can see the Electrik Red album going top three, possibly the Yeah Yeah Yeahs as well.

Is that Electrik Red album really that popular? I know it's got its boosters (Hi Lex) but I thought it was a little under the radar to poll so highly. Fevr Ray, yup, must admit that slipped my mind.

It only takes five or so people to vote something really highly for it to hit really high in one of these - the Electrik Red thread is pretty long and the people who like that album really love it. That said there might be some vote splitting as a result of the Dream album.

Can see The-Dream being top 3, ER around 15th or so.

It's between fever ray, the xx and phoenix for top spot. Wont be surprised if its in that order. Possibly Phoenix will suffer from gapdy backlash. Maybe Taylor Swift, elektrik red or The-Dream will complete the top 5 if phoenix places lower.

Can see The-Dream being top 3, ER around 15th or so.

This.

Top five prediction, not ordered:

Animal Collective (sorry)
The-Dream
Fever Ray
Phoenix
The xx

If I had to order it...

1) Fever Ray
2) The-Dream
3) The xx
4) Animal Collective
5) Phoenix

Yeah Yeah Yeahs will be higher than Phoenix.

Taylor Swift and YYYs will be lower half of top ten, Electrik Red top twenty.

Tonetta better be on here somewhere

I hope the real results aren't so boringly predictable obviously.

need to pick up Grandfather Paradox - kept meaning to check it out last year and forgetting.

F.D.X.A.P.

the thinking man's G.A.P.D.Y.

Grandfather Paradox is great, one of my fave mixes of the last decade. It compares well with Optimo's Walkabout from a few years back.

grandfather paradox is the only pick of mine to show up so far. i really like the idea of it, but even more than that how well it works -- and how idiosyncratic it is too, there's some obvious things in there but there's also stuff like cymande and yusef lateef that works and fits but that sort of expands the idea of the minimalist lineage. unmixed disc is great too.

40 -- El Perro Del Mar - Love Is Not Pop (104.5 points, 8 votes, 2 #1 vote/s) (dnp in p4k, 1558 in p&j)

http://evilmonito.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/el-perro-del-mar-love-is-not-pop.jpg

huh

awesome! but wrong cover!

(my #1)

lol i hope that means meanderthals is higher

oh...then someone else please post the right one, I just google them and use the first ones that show up

http://trimaran.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/el-perro.jpg

pretty album but still want her to expand her songs more

I've edited the message to put the right album cover there. I really love that El Perro Del Mar album incidentally, gorgeous stuff... the soundtrack to the early summer for me.

Not sure how much of an intersect there is between Girls fans and Animal Collectors.

― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:17 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

about 40% of P&J's Girls voters also voted for AC:
https://pub.needlebase.com/actions/visualizer/V2Visualizer.do?domain=Pazz-Jop-2009&query=Top-10+Voter+Overlap

grandfather paradox didn't really do much for me to begin with cos i was trying to listen to it like a dance mix, which it isn't, but over the year it impressed me more and more with the way it builds and sustains a mood and just the seamless seamless flow of it. it became my default hangover music for a while - high praise imo.

haha it really is dope early morning music and "seamless" is a good way to describe it. and while its okay mood music i do think the mix has a clarity and tension that really rewards close listening.

v interested in el perro del mar

hated the production on that camera obscura album--way too much reverb and soft-focus orchestration that makes it sound like no actual instruments are being played.

I really liked the production for much the same reason.

kinda fitting that the ilx equivalent of GAPDY is FAPDY

those Studio guys are like catnip for ILX. I voted for El Perro Del Mar.

Not heard it at all, feel free to YouTube like devils.

the lou reed cover is v good!

about 40% of P&J's Girls voters also voted for AC

Intersting. They've obviously got lots in common, but that Girls stuff just seems to pale in comparison to MPP in terms of ambition and imagination.

39 -- Meanderthals - Desire Lines (104.5 points, 9 votes) (dnp in p4k, 877 in p&j)

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5451/jjno2.jpg

haha

crossing my fingers for jj at #38

X-post regarding nicely packaged albums (I just finished skimming through the thread) - I was struck by the packaging for the last Hacride and UFOmammut albums. Not only the cover art, but these special jewel cases with rounded corners that seem extra sturdy.

UFOmammut albums also cost 50 euros though, so fuck that.

about 40% of P&J's Girls voters also voted for AC

What about the other way around?

way more people voted for AC, so only about 16% of that number

xxpost - Some of their albums are hard to get and are pricey for sure, but Idolum was about £12/$17 when I got it. It might be a bit more, but not 50 euros!

Meanderthals! The third of my votes to place. Best album falling under the balearic umbrella by miles for me; for a good while it was my default first-thing-in-the-morning album, I associate it really strongly with black coffee and the morning papers and catching up on the internet and the world.

black coffee and the morning papers and catching up on the internet and the world

so not balearic

would be cool if someone could fix the image again too, just for posterity

yeah. it's a great cover as well.

black coffee and the morning papers and catching up on the internet and the world

so not balearic

pretty sure balearic is now just about workaday office folk trying to escape the daily routine with visions of beaches et all

<3 meanderthals

balearic is dreaming of the beach when youre already sleeping on the beach

Black coffee is totally balearic

Black coffee may be the least Balearic substance I can think of. Except possibly cocaine.

Black coffee in the hot sun is crazy business.

38 -- JJ – jj n° 2 (104.5 points, 9 votes, 1 #1 vote/s) (35 in p4k, 105 in p&j)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3766/68967959.jpg

really really happy about Grandfather Paradox, El Perro Del Mar, and Meanderthals! :D

really irritated about the posting of the JJ cover under Meanderthals, JJ fucking blows (xpost, ha)

all the same these Scando bands

three of mine in a row

Musically, you have some image madness going on!

Mungolian Jet Set next?

maybe Royksopp

based on these last placings i'd bet mungolian jet set makes it on this list

strange, i have no idea what this was about:

awesome! but wrong cover!

― psychgawsple, Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:15 AM (1 hour ago)

yet after that every cover has been wrong

^ well it was changed shortly after my post

^^the El Perro was wrong originally but a mod fixed it xp

Scandinavian gremlins afoot

oh i see, my b

L&P II is the other scando-balearo-disco that'll def make it, idk about MJS

really don't see the appeal of jj tbh. i was way disappointed.

saaaaaame here^

i just thought it was silly twee-ish crap, worse than the tough alliance which i actually liked when in the mood for it

oh, forgot about Taken By Trees, that might make it too, though i didn't vote for it

big fan of jj, it's kinda mazzy starry

whoa covers all messed up in here

people being able to listen to that entire jj album is pretty wtf to me

Behold, the future:

http://www.ipod-gear.net/images/img_3728_ipod_shuffle_orange_450x360.jpg

37 -- Horrors - Primary Colours (106.5 points, 11 votes) (dnp in p4k, 65 in p&j)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3903/thehorrorsprimarycolour.jpg

didn't vote for it, but an album i tried out after the number of songs nommed for the trax poll. some decent stuff.

love that jj album btw

about 40% of P&J's Girls voters also voted for AC
This could just indicate pervasive popularity of AC, which wouldn't surprise me. What % of MPP voters also voted for Girls?

people being able to listen to that entire jj album is pretty wtf to me

― united arab amirites (samosa gibreel), Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:28 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

this

Ah, I see that point re AnCo/Grls was already raised and answered above.

If you can find that P&J stats page that was linked from the P&J thread, I think it showed the overlap between all the GAPDY ballots.

i get to the last 14 seconds of the JJ album and then i can't stands no more

really like the sound and production on the horrors album. not as crazy about the songs. pleasant to have on in the background, tho.

listening to the Grandfather Paradox mix for the first time in quite a while, man this is so good, wish i had voted it higher. there's nothing pedantic or "educational" about it, its just a really really great and varied assortment of tunes that are mixed together wonderfully. it doesn't strike me as dance floor stuff, very much daytime outside music imo.

really like the sound and production on the horrors album. not as crazy about the songs. pleasant to have on in the background, tho.

Kind of shoegazey isn't it. Not bad what I've heard so far on first listen.

P&J Top-10 Voter Overlap

not as crazy about the songs.

Give it time. They will sink into your brainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn*EXPLODES*

Percentages of each of top 10 voters who also voted for AnCo:

DirtyPros - 55%
GrizzlyBear - 51%
Girls - 40%
The xx - 37%
Flaming Lips - 35%
Phoenix - 34%
Raekwon - 33%
Neko Case - 25%
YYYs - 24%

Percentage of voters who voted for Grizzly Bear with bad taste in music: 100%.

j/k

The GB hate continues, in jest.

seeing raekwon in those lists will never not be hilarious

I loved the Horrors album when it came out - I repped and repped for it in the face of people calling me a corny Hoxton indie fuxxor, but really it was Sea Within A Sea which was the diamond in the rough. The rest of the album was really just a shoegaze/Joy Division retread with (admittedly excellent) production from Geoff Barrow.

Or maybe that's a bit harsh. I think I was just elated that a British rock band could do something like this in 2009 without trying to go all electro or whatever. Sea Within A Sea remains a great track though - I'm surprised it didn't chart on the singles list.

36 -- Neko Case - Middle Cyclone (107 points, 12 votes, 2 #1 vote/s) (21 in p4k, 3 in p&j)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9757/nekomiddlecyclone.jpg

that's a better placement than its silly top 5 finish in a lot of places. i like neko ok, nice voice, good singer, but she's never really mastered the whole melody thing afaic. i tend to enjoy her records all right while i'm listening, but i'm hard pressed to remember a tune afterward.

yeah that's well-put. i think she could stand to write shorter stuff that's a little more focused.

My #1.

Mordy & Justine were the #1 votes?
xp
HAH!

I think I voted for it.

My favourite album sleeve of last year.

I think the album sleeve is horrible, am I alone?

i like it, never saw it before until just now

could do with some need for speed graf font imo

the white space around the car bores me, would rather they'd kept the background. the text is a mess as with 98% of current sleeves.

yea that sleeve is nothing special imo. maybe if you're into cars?

someone should do an album covers of the year poll

35 -- The Mountain Goats - The Life Of The World To Come (110.5 points, 10 votes) (45 in p4k, 80 in p&j)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3518/333wh.jpg

one of the worst album covers i've seen.
a muscle car? ok.. neko perched on top of it? ehh.. she's holding a sword? uhh.. corny indie-as-fuck handwritten lettering?? RAGE!! xpost

J0hn D.'s #1?

xpost

well considering it didn't have a #1 vote, no

(joke post)

good joke

I know right?

ilxor FAIL

cover reminds me of SY's Sister.

Cover reminds me of the Bauhaus BBC Sessions disc.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NDpJQZYRMD8/Sp_44mheVhI/AAAAAAAAA6w/kVnZqJFv6oc/s320/bbc+cover.jpg

also broadcast - haha sound

I love this Mountain Goats album - it was the one that converted me from an admirer to a fan. The production on this is top notch, and J0hn's control of his voice has only improved with time. The most played album in my house the last few months.

it was a bit outside my top 20 but def a good album and worthy choice

Great, great record.

34 -- Lady Gaga - The Fame Monster (111.5 points, 10 votes) (dnp in p4k, 31 in p&j)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/218/ladygagathefamemonstery.jpg

voted for gaga

makes me think all pop albums should be 8 songs long; it's such a perfect stream of bangers

Likewise.

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it was pretty weird how they released 'the fame monster' i guess they were in an equally envious/unenvious position

nothin i voted for yet

I think The Mountain Goats might be the only thing on my ballot that will show up.

33 -- Mariah Carey - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (112 points, 8 votes) (dnp in p4k, 332 in p&j)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7013/memoirsofanimperfectangz.jpg

i did not vote for the fame monster but i really like it, or the first four songs at least. literally just played my personalized mini-EP

xps

we're already at #33? sheesh

the mariah album is like a shower of feathers

a peacock?

what an remarkably boring album

everytime i think the results cant get worse ILM reaches a new low.

Nothing useful to say here.

Is it me or is that album title as wonky as hell?

Nobody looks that high on the cover to notice

Mariah's always been wonky!

People just voting for anything Terius related, and this one's grasping at straws.

Yeah, pretty much. I reserved my votes for his two more deserving projects.

everytime i think the results cant get worse ILM reaches a new low.

― Pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

so much worse than 08.

wow i really didn't expect mariah to place - very happy it did - i don't think either emancipation or e=mc2 did, and they were both much more commercial, immediate, pop-friendly affairs, whereas this one may as well be subtitled "strictly for mariah fans". maybe the-dream's involvement pulled some on board? i think it's a really great, satisfying album; mariah's ability to deliver real talk seems to be oddly correlated to her willingness to deliver self-parody; almost as if the more of a cartoon of herself she is, the more intimate and honest she sounds. also, she's fucking funny throughout, and the-dream coming over all restrained and velvet-pillows-of-layered-vocals on us is very effective. "shower of feathers" about covers it.

jj - was disappointed by, there's wispy, drifting balearica that compels you to return to it (meanderthals) and then there's wispy balearica that drifts through you completely. b'ring.

gave neko case a good try as i really love her voice, if not always her songs, but nothing stuck with me; it's not a patch on blacklisted imo. still, great voice.

um, Mariah is fucking awesome, losers.

nb i am not going to defend the mariah album cover

Hopefully some good stuff to come. Last year I discovered a few really good albums I hadnt heard because of the poll and quite a few things I liked charted too. But Baroness & Neko Case are the only ones so far.

Mind you, some peoples worst poll results are someones best poll ever.

People just voting for anything Terius related, and this one's grasping at straws.

bullshit, some of us were voting for mariah albums way before she met terius - and yes she is and always has been awesome, LOSERS

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_big_are_mariah_carey's_breasts

um, Mariah is fucking awesome, losers.

― autotuna fish (Tape Store), Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:23 PM Bookmark

Hey, I liked her two previous albums, but a spade is a spade.

this is for real, for real
oprah winfrey whole segment for real, for real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_POWkL_J-Y

and no superglue can fix this shhh - when i break, i break, i break
not even a welder and a builder can rebuild this shhh - when i break, i break, i break
not even a nail technician with a whole lotta gel and acrylic can fix this shhh - when i break, i break
if we were two lego blocks, even the harvard university graduating class of 2010 couldn't put us back together again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i7GEMQC2IY

that neko placing is just about right - it's a nice album but really drags toward the end. def support her though

pleased that mariah placed and look forward to more people who don't listen to r&b commenting negatively on it

rev not included obv

did neko case ever do anything as good as twist the knife? tuned out after that

if we were two lego blocks, even the harvard university graduating class of 2010 couldn't put us back together again

::BARF::

fucking chatty cathy doll of an album

yeah you know mariah would probably take that as a pretty high compliment

love the album but don't really share the love for that line

my favorite by far is "ribbon", then "obsessed" and "more than just friends"

That one line is some next level humpty dumpty shit imo

I think that's kind of the point.

my favourites are "ribbon" and "the impossible", but i think "betcha gon know" and "up out my face" are more likely to find favour with mariah novices

"the impossible" is basically on a par with "you don't know what love is" and dâm-funk's album for space-age pimp vox ~vibesing out~~~~

ha i wouldn't recommend "betcha gon know" to anyone other than a terius stan - al's "the-dream karaoke" is otm about that song

still love it obv

oh ok go on then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er-TavJTcOA