get yr 'îron game up, rap
― luriqua, Thursday, 9 August 2007 07:55 (5 years ago) Permalink
--nicci mane
― luriqua, Thursday, 9 August 2007 07:56 (5 years ago) Permalink
supposed to be ''eron' sry
― luriqua, Thursday, 9 August 2007 08:04 (5 years ago) Permalink
Gucci Mane :: Trap House :: Big Cat Records/La Flare Ent. as reviewed by Steve 'Flash' Juon The most famous thing Radric 'Gucci Mane' Davis has done yet in his young life is be arrested for murder. Before May 19th the only knowledge the public had of Mane was the small amount of success his single "Icy" featuring Young Jeezy had found in some markets before the scheduled national release of his debut album "Trap House" on May 24th. Starved for any kind of press, good or bad, Gucci Mane's people immediately sent out a statement touting that Mane had voluntarily turned himself in to face these charges; subsequently Mane and his attorney managed to post bail and get him out of jail just as the album hit stores.
There was a time in hip-hop music when such an announcement would be viewed as a tragedy - a young man set to make his name nationally throws away his opportunity and faces an uncertain future possibly including jail time. Instead it's a sign of the cynical world that we live in that not only is this news fodder for a press release but viewed as the kind of publicity that could propel him to the top. While it's true that there is a disturbing correlation between the success of rappers and violent gun-related crimes, most were the recipient of the violence. Tupac Shakur survived several attacks on his life, and with each failure the already highly talented artist achieved a more iconic status; his ultimate demise making him a martyr in many eyes and keeping album sales high well after his death. Notorious B.I.G. was already a worldwide rap superstar before he was gunned down and had been for some time. Even 50 Cent had risen beyond local notoriety with several singles like "How to Rob" before the attempt on his life nearly blew his face off. In short, rappers are the victims of their fame, not the perpetrators of the violence in an ATTEMPT to gain fame.
Recently the trend has swung heavily in the other direction. Whether they are truly innocent and being railroaded by the system or as guilty as their convictions would indicate, MC's from Shyne to C-Murder to Pimp C to T.I. have had to do time for their crimes. The remarkable thing about all four is that being locked up has been no impediment to releasing a new album that appears in stores. While Gucci Mane's album was already in the can before he wound up in the pen, it's still telling that all parties involved used the timing of the incident to their advantage. One can only hope Mr. Davis was really not looking for more publicity via these means and that this is just a case of wrong place/wrong time or at the very worst self-defense. When the smoke clears from this incident the debut album "Trap House" still remains as the TRUE platform for Gucci Mane to achieve his success, not these unfortunate charges. Clocking in at 18 tracks including an intro, outro and several skits, this full-length release puts both Mane and Big Cat Records on the map. The latter clearly has big plans, as they even put an ad for an upcoming album by Magic and a "404 vs. 504" compilation underneath the clear tray on which Mane's CD sits.
Now as for the artist himself, the sad truth here is that there's not much to write about other than his arrest record. Mane follows in the recent tradition of debuting Southern rappers whose rhyme schemes are overly simplstic, accents are extra thick, and beats are incredibly uninteresting. Even the lead single "Icy" has a barely passable beat by Xavier Dotson, p.k.a. "Zaytoven" according to the liner notes. I'd hold off on the comparisons to Beethoven just yet if I were him - a simple series of electronic beats and beeps does not a maestro make. Neither rapper in the song has anything interesting to say, but Mane comes off half as clever as Jeezy, who at least manages a semi-clever reference to Ginuwine in his opening verse. Mane has nothing:
"She diggin my fit, she think I'm the shit Is this a chain on my neck, or the watch in my wrist Maybe the ice in my ear, or the brace-eh-let But she look like the type that could take a dick Uhhhhhhh... young Gucci Mane Don't kiss me baby you can kiss my chain Uhhhh - ya gotta be a dime piece just to look at the rocks in my time piece"
The lyrical critique here is not just of the inane materialistic content, because that type of material is so prevalent in today's hip-hop anyway and there are some who do it well or at least have enough charisma to make it interesting. Mane is charismatic and not completely unpleasant vocally, but adding an extra syllable to the word "bracelet" in order to rhyme it with "take a dick" insults both your eardrum and your intelligence. Furthermore after a certain amount of time one has to question the quality of chicks these "iced out" rappers pull, when they look like tens on the outside but are so vapid on the inside they only care about how much sparkle you wear. It's not as if this song is an exception to the rule and Mane offers more profound wisdom elsewhere on his album. Rather this song is the height of what are otherwise a string of lyrical lows. Here's another example of how clever Gucci Mane is: "Don't let yo' mouth write a check that yo' ass cain't cash/I'm the lawnmower man, and yo' ass is grass." That might have been clever back in 1992 but it's heavily dated today, and the fact it's the hook of a song NAMED "Lawnmower Man" isn't helping. Here's some more of Mane's talent on this track:
"Uhhhhh, I'm from the hood I'll punch ya lights out ... I took your jewelry, now I'm iced out (icy icy) Gucci Mane got that 'caine in (I ain't got no bricks) I swear I never tuck my chain in ... You just a thug in trainin ... I'm a thug entertainin"
No Mane, you're not entertaining. The closest this album gets to entertaining is a parody of Dem Franchize Boyz "White Tee" entitled "Black Tee" that features Bun B, Lil Scrappy and Jody Breeze among others - and while the talent on their version is better the Franchize Boyz still win for having a better beat than the one Zaytoven provides here. I'd like to say Gucci Mane has a bright future in front of him as a rapper if he beats the charges, but songs like "Damn Shawty" contradict the statement with ridiculous lyrics like "Shawty got an ass on hurr, I'ma put my hands on hurr, I'ma spend a couple grand on hurr, I'ma pop a rubber band on hurr." Much as I knocked Mike Jones in a review a few weeks ago, one has to give Jones credit for three things: more interesting beats, better hooks to his songs, and a gimmick that's memorable no matter how ridiculous it might be. Gucci Mane has none of these things going for him. His only gimmick right now is his infamy, and even that won't last when people see how vapid his music is.
Music Vibes: 4 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 4 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 4 of 10
― luriqua, Thursday, 9 August 2007 08:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
mod delete that asap
― luriqua, Thursday, 9 August 2007 08:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
how to rob, lool
getting shot must hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― luriqua, Thursday, 9 August 2007 08:10 (5 years ago) Permalink
"Zaytoven" according to the liner notes
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
― luriqua, Thursday, 9 August 2007 08:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
"Zaytoven" !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACa7M4A7hso
― luriqua, Thursday, 9 August 2007 08:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
trap house VS back to the traphouse
― am0n, Thursday, 29 May 2008 17:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
'i know why' is a jam
― am0n, Thursday, 29 May 2008 17:20 (5 years ago) Permalink
-- am0n, Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:18 PM
― am0n, Thursday, 29 May 2008 23:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
SHAWTY ASKED ME WHAT TIME IT IS I SAID 15 MINUTES PAST THE DIAMONDS, BITCH
― deej, Thursday, 29 May 2008 23:12 (5 years ago) Permalink
shit how did i miss this revive!!! back to the traphouse is my shit
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 May 2008 02:31 (5 years ago) Permalink
ah-choo im rich say gesundheit bitch
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 May 2008 02:34 (5 years ago) Permalink
game kills his verse
Ha-choo! I’m rich/Say gesundheit, bitch/Please excuse me, miss/Excuse my French/My necklace look like Cris/Your diamonds look like piss.
― deej, Monday, 23 June 2008 16:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4tRd3KSqkA&feature=PlayList&p=EAF97ADC0CFFD900&index=1
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 June 2008 16:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
you can't be me or see me unless you see me on tv
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 June 2008 16:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWXN5n_y1s8
luv this song
― am0n, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
and bird flu
― am0n, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
gucci dont drink beer but he do drink dom
― deej, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
gucci mane get cake its my birthday party
― deej, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
you just had to post the "drink dom" line on the one forum on the internet where that has a really disturbing connotation
― some dude, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
i like gucci cuz he sounds like he is always having the most fun of any rapper around
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 June 2008 17:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
-- some dude, Monday, June 23, 2008 12:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
was kinda hoping someone would run w/ that one
― deej, Monday, 23 June 2008 17:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
gucci mane you stupid man i love the way you flowin ridin in my drop but i dont know where Im goin on 285 i keep ridin in a circle the inside of my ride smellin like a pound of purple
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 June 2008 17:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
You mix a little Coke with a little Dom Passantino/ And a little Fennessey/ You know we fine to carry on
― am0n, Monday, 23 June 2008 18:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
ok ban me
― am0n, Monday, 23 June 2008 18:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol
― some dude, Monday, 23 June 2008 18:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
-- am0n, Monday, June 23, 2008 1:29 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
in the spirit of a luriqua thread
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 June 2008 18:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
'freaky gurl' is so great
― lex pretend, Monday, 23 June 2008 21:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
Gucci Mane is some dirty mofo tho. He actually shames me with his existance.
― VeronaInTheClub, Monday, 23 June 2008 22:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
jordan s was right about the album :D
― lex pretend, Monday, 14 July 2008 15:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
thx i posted this upthread already but i'm still d-_-bing it. soulja boy's been getting some real rappers on his tracks lately (two w/ gucci-- the one w/ gucci and shawty lo is only aight) and this one is the best of the collabos. pretty sick verse from gucci http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4tRd3KSqkA&feature=PlayList&p=EAF97ADC0CFFD900&index=1
― J0rdan S., Monday, 14 July 2008 15:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah i know! i heard that last week i think. immediate faves off nback to the traphouse - 'bird flu', 'i move chickens'. and this is the first i've heard from shawnna in an age, too
― lex pretend, Monday, 14 July 2008 15:28 (4 years ago) Permalink
― am0n, Monday, 14 July 2008 16:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.zshare.net/audio/17858112c400b8d0/
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 30 August 2008 20:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
im not richie rich bitch but im rich as fuck
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 30 August 2008 20:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
/!\ ALERT /!\ gucci mane said ti's balls were brittle /!\ ALERT /!\
-- luriqua, Saturday, July 21, 2007 6:42 PM (1 year ago)
― am0n, Sunday, 31 August 2008 20:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
like garfield odie nigga ima dogg
― johnny crunch, Monday, 1 September 2008 16:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
loool amon
― J0rdan S., Monday, 1 September 2008 18:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm a junkyard dog not a scooby dooi got that white girl true i'm talking betty boop
^^leave it to gucci to come up w/ the only original white girl reference 10 months after it was a "thing"
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 05:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
i'm just getting through those mixtapes now
i really like this weird raspy croak that he's got when he sings his hooks ("nickelodeon", "haunted house") and originally i thought his mixtape tracks were too blunted to really register for me (whereas back to the traphouse is glossy as fuck and tons of fun to listen to) but i'm kind of digging the mood but maybe i'm just projecting
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 05:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
nickelodeon is insane
no wayne flashbacks intended by using the phrase "weird raspy croak"
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 05:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh96ru8A8umq54y386
video of gucci bussin mac bre-z upside the head
― and what, Monday, 12 January 2009 22:22 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh99w7x526oig4pLlm
less entertaining more educational video of zaytoven talking about working w/ gucci -- real interesting actually
― xhuxk d (deej), Monday, 12 January 2009 22:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
hmm i guess that vid isnt really entertaining as much as disturbing xp
― xhuxk d (deej), Monday, 12 January 2009 22:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
drops at 10:17 p.m.
― Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:26 (3 months ago) Permalink
postponed :(
He actually has two tapes dropping today - Trap Back 2 and a collabo tape with Young Dolph.
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:30 (3 months ago) Permalink
who drops a mixtape on friday night at 10pm...
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:15 (3 months ago) Permalink
I think the last Young Thug tape came out around then, too. It's crap timing, because I would have liked to have ridden with it that Friday night but had to wait until sleepy Saturday. Plus it means there's no fun insta-Twitter reaction to follow.
― Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:20 (3 months ago) Permalink
yeah insta-Twitter reactions are so fun and not completely tedious and unnecessary and depressing
― îron swanson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:22 (3 months ago) Permalink
They can be all of those things, but I still like the shared experience of reacting to music, especially if it's from an artist I'm excited about
― Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:34 (3 months ago) Permalink
yeah there's interesting things to be found in instareactions, no one's saying they have to be the final word on releases
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:37 (3 months ago) Permalink
I'm also more tolerant of instareactions to mixtapes, which almost by design are meant to have a shorter conversational shelf life than albums. It's one thing when writers casts immediate judgement on years-in-the-making JT or MBV records; another when they fire off opinions about a Young Scooter mixtape most people might never get around to hearing
― Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:43 (3 months ago) Permalink
Gucci Mane @gucci1017Waka flacka flames officially dropped off brick squad 1017. Big Guwop say give me a offer fa this disloyal lil nigga
"waka flacka flames"
― tpp, Saturday, 16 March 2013 10:12 (3 months ago) Permalink
i feel guilty whenever i partake in twitter instareactions but really it's the only suitable place for them - communal excitement can be fun, à la old-skool ilm threads
i feel depressed and angry when i see professional album reviews that are pretty much instareactions. FIRST FIRST EVERYONE GOTTA BE FIRST WITH THEIR JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE OPINION
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Saturday, 16 March 2013 10:15 (3 months ago) Permalink
word
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Saturday, 16 March 2013 19:26 (3 months ago) Permalink
guys "flames" is just possessive without the apostrophe...
what was up with that though? are they 4real beefing?
― k3vin k., Saturday, 16 March 2013 19:35 (3 months ago) Permalink
Anybody heard that Gucci/Young Dolph mixtape? Is it worth downloading?
― Evan R, Monday, 18 March 2013 22:57 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yeah it is. It sounded a bit like a mess at first, but it's falling into place now.
― longneck, Monday, 18 March 2013 23:09 (3 months ago) Permalink
So is it possible that Selena is the gal that has made Gucci sound so romantic and #based lately?
― longneck, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 00:33 (2 months ago) Permalink
Are there any particular highlights from the last two mixtapes?
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 11:00 (2 months ago) Permalink
Not a lot of highlights on Trap Back 2. It's his first disappointing mixtape in quite a while
― Evan R, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 01:31 (2 months ago) Permalink
never heard this verse before:
http://youtu.be/_aRIAFsgPHE
dammn
― tpp, Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:07 (2 months ago) Permalink
that was one of his first verses out of jail
"no sneakers i'm wearing creatures" is all time epic
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:34 (2 months ago) Permalink
yeah that was done right around the same time as "break up" (prob even same session)
― some dude, Sunday, 24 March 2013 21:42 (2 months ago) Permalink
― ְ֮֠֓֟֬֩ (gr8080), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:03 (2 months ago) Permalink
S M H
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:06 (2 months ago) Permalink
I think the big takeaway here is "lol @ Complex"
― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:07 (2 months ago) Permalink
no way that's photoshopped, nope, nuh uh
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:17 (2 months ago) Permalink
judge is always like, "are you guilty?"
― adam, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 15:18 (2 months ago) Permalink
well 'trap house 3' is out there and has 3x rich homie quan features
― tpp, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:58 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Gucci has been so locked into a single aesthetic on his last 9 mixtapes or w/e that some of this is really jarring.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:51 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Also, why is this out so early? Thought it was supposed to come out in July; are they burying it?
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:52 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
― luriqua, Thursday, August 9, 2007 2:55 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think this is one of my favorite posts
― unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:55 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
https://twitter.com/sisterolsen/status/337423098393542657
― sisilafami, Thursday, 23 May 2013 10:48 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
it's an independent album so i don't think it's possible to 'bury' it -- they're just tossing it out when they feel like without much advance hype, like a mixtape
i swore off checking out new gucci/bricksquad a while back because the diminishing returns and volume of output made it all feel like a waste of time, but if this actually doesn't sound exactly like all his other recent stuff i will have to at least give it a listen
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 11:45 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
We need a thread here dedicated to distilling the annual output of dudes like Gucci and lil b to absolute must haves
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 May 2013 12:22 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
It's essentially a Young Thug solo track (ft. Rich Homie Quan) but "Chasen Paper" is incredible
― Evan R, Thursday, 23 May 2013 14:51 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
i'd put this on my list of gucci must haves
― sisilafami, Thursday, 23 May 2013 16:44 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
"Brick Squad is like NWA / Drumma Boy he Dr. Dre / Gucci Mane, I'm Suge Knight, I gunfight..."
― Evan R, Saturday, 25 May 2013 18:47 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
the joint with 2 chainz from the new one is incredible
― tpp, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
http://www.thefader.com/2013/05/31/gucci-mane-and-marilyn-manson-recorded-a-song-together/
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
I just can't...
― Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
― tpp, Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:07 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yesss
― flopson, Sunday, 2 June 2013 02:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
which one
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 June 2013 02:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
use me
― flopson, Sunday, 2 June 2013 02:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
ive deleted and/or skipped a few tapes in a row now but im feeling trap house 3 a bit
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 00:17 (1 week ago) Permalink
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 9 June 2013 17:00 (1 week ago) Permalink
why is this the year of gucci mane photoshop tumblr memes? oh right, spring breakers
― treeship journey to stars hollow (some dude), Sunday, 9 June 2013 18:17 (1 week ago) Permalink
so true
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 June 2013 21:56 (1 week ago) Permalink
I've been re-listening to Trap Back nonstop since seeing Gucci completely own a club this weekend, and the summer weather is making me realize what a crime it is that "Okay With Me" wasn't a real hit.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 04:52 (1 week ago) Permalink
I actually really like the "Hell Yes" ultra-autotune song. I always get the "I might just have a change of hea-art" refrain stuck in my head.
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 06:34 (1 week ago) Permalink
Hell Yes is really great. Weirdly emo.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 10:21 (1 week ago) Permalink
love Hell Yes, so beautiful.
― My god. Pure ideology. (ey), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 10:32 (1 week ago) Permalink
Like how Gucci kinda of snaps back to reality after this line - "Even the thought of losin’ her…"
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 11:15 (1 week ago) Permalink