Year-End Critics' Polls '08

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so it has begun:

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2008/11/signs-of-life-2008-best-music.html

50 TV On The Radio - Dear Science (Interscope)
49 Sandra McCracken - Red Balloon (Towhee)
48 REM - Accelerate (Warner Bros.)
47 Laura Marling - Alas, I Cannot Swim (Astralwerks)
46 Lykke Li - Youth Novels (LL)
45 M83 - Saturdays = Youth (Mute)
44 Kathleen Edwards - Asking For Flowers (Zoë)
43 Amanda Palmer - Who Killed Amanda Palmer (Roadrunner)
42 Thao Nguyen and the Get Down Stay Down - We Brave Bee Stings & All (KRS)
41 The Tallest Man On Earth - Shallow Grave (Gravitation)
40 Flight of the Conchords - Flight of the Conchords (Sub Pop)
39 The Dodos - Visiter (Frenchkiss)
38 Jamie Lidell - Jim (Warp)
37 Johnny Flynn & The Sussex Wit - A Larum (Lost Highway)
36 The Bridges - Limits of the Sky (Verve)
35 Colour Revolt - Plunder, Beg and Curse (Fat Possum)
34 Torche - Meanderthal (Hydra Head)
33 Santogold - Santogold (Downtown)
32 Silver Jews - Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea (Drag City)
31 The Walkmen - You & Me (Gigantic)
30 I'm From Barcelona - Who Killed Harry Houdini? (Mute)
29 Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III (Cash Money/Universal)
28 MGMT - Oracular Spectacular (Columbia)
27 Liam Finn - I'll Be Lightning (Yep Roc)
26 Lee Ann Womack - Call Me Crazy (MCA Nashville)
25 Mugison - Mugiboogie (Ipecac)
24 Santogold & Diplo - Top Ranking
 (Mad Decent)
23 Mates of State - Re-Arrange Us (Barsuk)
22 No Age - Nouns (Sub Pop)
21 The Raveonettes - Lust Lust Lust (Vice)
20 Hot Chip - Made In The Dark (Astralwerks)
19 Gentleman Jesse and His Men - Introducing Gentleman Jesse and His Men (Douchemaster)
18 Death Cab
 for Cutie - Narrow Stairs
 (Atlantic)
17 Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - Lie Down In The Light (Drag City)
16 My Morning Jacket
 - Evil Urges (ATO)
15 Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!! (Mute)
14 Langhorne Slim - Langhorne Slim (Kemado)
13 Ida Maria - Fortress Round My Heart (Waterfall/RCA)
12 of Montreal - Skeletal Lamping (Polyvinyl)
11 The Hold Steady - Stay Positive (Vagrant)
10 Deerhunter - Microcastle (Kranky)
09 Lucinda Williams - Little Honey (Lost Highway)
08 Sun Kil Moon - April (Caldo Verde)
07 Girl Talk - Feed the Animals (Illegal Art)
06 Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes (Sub Pop)
05 Okkervil River - The Stand Ins (Jagjaguwar)
04 Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago (Jagjaguwar)
03 Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend (XL)
02 Sigur Rós - Med sud i eyrum vid spilum endalaust (XL)
01 She & Him - Volume One (Merge)

Bee OK, Monday, 24 November 2008 01:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

That top ten is just vile.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 24 November 2008 01:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Blender:

33 Hayes Carll - Trouble In Mind
32 Taylor Swift - Fearless
31 Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!
30 Young Jeezy - The Recession
29 Raphael Saadiq - The Way I See It
28 Stephen Malkmus And The Jicks - Real Emotional Trash
27 Mariah Carey - E=MC²
26 Usher - Here I Stand
25 Santogold - Santogold
24 The Roots - Rising Down
23 The Cool Kids - The Bake Sale
22 Coldplay - Viva La Vida
21 Erykah Badu - New Amerykah: Pt. One (4th World War)
20 Wale - The Mixtape About Nothing
19 Katy Perry - One Of The Boys
18 Ponytail - Ice Cream Spiritual
17 Conor Oberst - Conor Oberst
16 Be Your Own Pet - Get Awkward
15 Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
14 Jenny Lewis - Acid Tongue
13 Al Green - Lay It Down
12 My Morning Jacket - Evil Urges
11 Death Cab For Cutie - Narrow Stairs
10 Fall Out Boy - Folie A Deux
09 Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
08 Randy Newman - Harps and Angels
07 of Montreal - Skeletal Lamping
06 Robyn - Robyn
05 Hot Chip - Made In The Dark
04 Metallica - Death Magnetic
03 TV On The Radio - Dear Science
02 Girl Talk - Feed The Animals
01 Lil' Wayne - Tha Carter III

xhuxk, Monday, 24 November 2008 01:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Decibel's Top 40 metal albums
40. Coffins, Buried Death (20 Buck Spin)
39. Withered, Folie Circulaire (Prosthetic)
38. Graveyard (Tee Pee)
37. North, What You Were (Cavity)
36. Decrepit Birth, Diminishing Between Worlds (Unique Leader)
35. Witch, Paralyzed (Tee Pee)
34. Aura Noir, Hades Rise (Tyrant Syndicate)
33. Cynic, Traced in Air (Season of Mist)
32. Meshuggah, obZen (Nuclear Blast)
31. This Comp Kills Fascists Vol. 1 (Relapse)
30. Samothrace, Life's Trade (20 Buck Spin)
29. Blacklisted, Heavier Than Heaven, Lonelier Than God (Deathwish, Inc.)
28. Bloodbath, The Fathomless Mastery (Peaceville)
27. Testament, The Formation of Damnation (Nuclear Blast)
26. 5ive, Hesperus (Tortuga)
25. Hennes Siste Host, Host (Init)
24. Gridlink, Amber Gray (Hydra Head)
23. Trap Them, Seizures in Barren Praise (Deathwish, Inc.)
22. Hour of 13 (Shadow Kingdom)
21. Hail of Bullets, Of Frost and War (Metal Blade)
20. Intronaut, Prehistoricisms (Century Media)
19. Gods and Queens (Robotic Empire)
18. Toxic Holocaust, An Overdose of Death (Relapse)
17. Esoteric, The Maniacal Vale (Season of Mist)
16. Enslaved, Vertebrae (Nuclear Blast)
15. Gojira, The Way of All Flesh (Prosthetic)
14. Pyramids (Hydra Head)
13. Amon Amarth, Twilight of the Thunder God (Metal Blade)
12. Krallice (Profound Lore)
11. Harvey Milk, Life . . . the Best Game in Town (Hydra Head)
10. Disfear, Live the Storm (Relapse)
9. Made Out of Babies, The Ruiner (The End)
8. Wetnurse, Invisible City (Seventh Rule)
7. Origin, Antithesis (Relapse)
6. Rotten Sound, Cycles (Spinefarm)
5. The Gates of Slumber, Conqueror (Profound Lore)
4. Opeth, Watershed (Roadrunner)
3. Genghis Tron, Board Up the House (Relapse)
2. Nachmystium, Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1 (Century Media)
1. Torche, Meanderthal (Hydra Head)

Matos W.K., Monday, 24 November 2008 03:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

So much wrong with that Decibel list, starting with the album at #1. Hell, their whole Top 10 is all wrong.

I'll post Metal Edge's list tomorrow, when I'm at the office.

unperson, Monday, 24 November 2008 04:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

0 for 3

billstevejim, Monday, 24 November 2008 04:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Okay, I should say "0 for 2".. since I'm not hip to metal.. but yeah, those first 2 lists are bullshit.

billstevejim, Monday, 24 November 2008 04:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Kathleen Edwards + Laura Marling on Paste is good to see.

Mordy, Monday, 24 November 2008 04:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

hooray for real emotional trash!
not sure how that was received around these parts - something tells me it was very hated, although i think you should all love it.

k3vin k., Monday, 24 November 2008 04:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

I liked it a lot.

Mordy, Monday, 24 November 2008 04:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

WTF is with this Girl Talk top-tenning?

Trik Turner Fan Club President (Tape Store), Monday, 24 November 2008 05:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

i recently bought Real Emotional Trash on a whim without downloading it first. very surprised in how good it actually is. also bought Studio's West Coast on that Amoeba trip...

Bee OK, Monday, 24 November 2008 05:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think it's kind of steely dan-y! which of course would certainly be very up this place's alley. i think steely dan/malkmus have a lot in common in general

k3vin k., Monday, 24 November 2008 05:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's a good thing is Girl Talk charts really well being that I'm writing about him at the moment.

Mordy, Monday, 24 November 2008 06:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

nothing i like ever seems to make it onto these lameass polls

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Monday, 24 November 2008 06:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

seriously, these lists are a joke. does ILM do its own poll?

psychgawsple, Monday, 24 November 2008 06:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

We do, and we probably will again.

Cunga, Monday, 24 November 2008 07:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

01 Lil' Wayne - Tha Carter III

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is that my man hannity?? (deej), Monday, 24 November 2008 07:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

No mention of The Veronicas = Zero credibility.

To say nothing of the Pink omission.

i, grey, Monday, 24 November 2008 08:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

You're not really surprised at the Veronicas being left off the lists, right?

Mordy, Monday, 24 November 2008 08:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is ridiculous! Where is Of Montreux on these lists?

Mikaael Jackson (The Reverend), Monday, 24 November 2008 08:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

blender had them at 7, which i was v. happy about. they should be top 2, of course

k3vin k., Monday, 24 November 2008 08:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mojo have their Best Of 2008 in the new Oasis-covered issue, but I can't spot it online at the moment. They have Fleet Foxes at #1. I pass the buck to someone else to type up the rest.

krakow, Monday, 24 November 2008 08:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm not ever going to look if they have that snoozefest at #1

k3vin k., Monday, 24 November 2008 08:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

blender had them at 7, which i was v. happy about. they should be top 2, of course

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― k3vin k., Monday, November 24, 2008 12:50 AM Bookmark

step your reading comprehension game up, son

Mikaael Jackson (The Reverend), Monday, 24 November 2008 08:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Decibel good
blender predictable and uncontroversial as I imagine most will be
paste has something I've never heard of @ #1 which is something at least. Is it any good?

BIG HOOS enjoys a cold mindbeer (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 24 November 2008 09:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

love the fact that in the mojo list, oasis are at number 50, obviously "justifying" their cover status.

mark e, Monday, 24 November 2008 09:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

I like the She & Him album. Assuming it's the same album I heard a few months ago (I think it's the same one). I thought at the time that it was very Cat Powers'esque.

Mordy, Monday, 24 November 2008 10:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Me and Ruth Lorenzo, Rollin' in the Benzo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 November 2008 10:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

No mention of The Veronicas = Zero credibility.

To say nothing of the Pink omission.

― i, grey, Monday, November 24, 2008 3:12 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

man I like the Pink album and it's still impossible for me to not wanna clown this post

dumb pseud (some dude), Monday, 24 November 2008 13:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

That kind of post used to be de rigueur in Rolling Teenpop. Memory... All alone in the moonlight...

Mordy, Monday, 24 November 2008 14:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

So wait, Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus are different people?

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Monday, 24 November 2008 14:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Metal Edge Top 50 of 2008:

49. TIE: Motörhead, Motörizer/Prostitute Disfigurement, Descendants Of Depravity
48. Belphegor, Bondage Goat Zombie
47. In Flames, A Sense Of Purpose
46. Hate Eternal, Fury And Flames
45. Moonspell, Night Eternal
43. TIE: Iced Earth, The Crucible Of Man/Staind, The Illusion Of Progress
41. TIE: Eluveitie, Slania/Saviours, Into Abaddon
40. DragonForce, Ultra Beatdown
38. TIE: Blessed By A Broken Heart, Pedal To The Metal/Boris, Smile
37. Ayreon, 01011001
36. Into Eternity, The Incurable Tragedy
35. Cynic, Traced In Air
34. Intronaut, Prehistoricisms
33. Disfear, Live The Storm
32. Coffins, Buried Death
31. Gates Of Slumber, Conqueror
28. TIE: Annihilation Time, Annihilation Time III/Melvins, Nude With Boots/Trivium, Shogun
27. Equilibrium, Sagas
26. All That Remains, Overcome
25. Lair Of The Minotaur, War Metal Battle Master
23. TIE: Bleeding Through, Declaration/Mötley Crüe, Saints Of Los Angeles
22. Children Of Bodom, Blooddrunk
21. Made Out Of Babies, The Ruiner
20. GridLink, Amber Gray
19. Disturbed, Indestructible
17. TIE: Genghis Tron, Board Up The House/Wetnurse, Invisible City
16. The Sword, Gods Of The Earth
15. Judas Priest, Nostradamus
14. Neuraxis, The Thin Line Between
13. Krallice, Krallice
11. TIE: Cavalera Conspiracy, Inflikted/Torche, Meanderthal
10. Testament, The Formation Of Damnation
9. Enslaved, Vertebrae
8. Nachtmystium, Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. 1
7. Harvey Milk, Life…The Best Game In Town
6. Amon Amarth, Twilight Of The Thunder God
5. Gojira, The Way Of All Flesh
4. Slipknot, All Hope Is Gone
3. Meshuggah, obZen
2. Metallica, Death Magnetic
1. Opeth, Watershed

unperson, Monday, 24 November 2008 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mojo Magazine: The 50 Best Albums of 2008
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/923684

1 - Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
2 - The Last Shadow Puppets - The Age Of The Understatement
3 - Paul Weller - 22 Dreams
4 - Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago [2007]
5 - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!
6 - The Hold Steady - Stay Positive
7 - Glasvegas - Glasvegas
8 - The Week That Was - The Week That Was
9 - The Bug - London Zoo
10 - Neil Diamond - Home Before Dark
11 - Portishead - Third
12 - Don Cavalli - Cryland
13 - Drive-By Truckers - Brighter Than Creation's Dark
14 - British Sea Power - Do You Like Rock Music?
15 - Eli "Paperboy" Reed & The True Loves - Roll With You
16 - Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)
17 - Sigur Rós - Með suð í eyrum við spilum endalaust
18 - Pete Molinari - A Virtual Landslide
19 - Beck - Modern Guilt
20 - TV on the Radio - Dear Science
21 - Amadou & Mariam - Welcome to Mali
22 - Mercury Rev - Snowflake Midnight
23 - Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid
24 - Fucked Up - The Chemistry of Common Life
25 - Randy Newman - Harps and Angels
26 - Peter Broderick - Home
27 - M83 - Saturdays=Youth
28 - Neon Neon - Stainless Style
29 - Yeasayer - All Hour Cymbals [2007]
30 - The Night Marchers - See You in Magic
31 - Duffy - Rockferry
32 - Seasick Steve - I Started Out With Nothin' and I Still Got Most of It Left
33 - Kasai Allstars - In the 7th Moon, the Chief Turned Into a Swimming Fish and Ate the Head of His Enemy by Magic
34 - Fuck Buttons - Street Horrrsing
35 - Our Broken Garden - When Your Blackening Shows
36 - MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
37 - Gavin Bryars & Philip Jeck & Alter Ego - The Sinking of the Titanic [2007]
38 - Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree
39 - Abe Vigoda - Skeleton
40 - The Black Keys - Attack & Release
41 - The Fall - Imperial Wax Solvent
42 - Juana Molina - Un Día
43 - Aimee Mann - @#%&*! Smilers
44 - Goldmund - The Malady Of Elegance
45 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
46 - James Hunter - The Hard Way
47 - Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
48 - AC/DC - Black Ice
49 - The Neil Cowley Trio - Loud... Louder... Stop
50 - Oasis - Dig Out Your Soul

djmartian, Monday, 24 November 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

paste has something I've never heard of @ #1 which is something at least. Is it any good?

― BIG HOOS enjoys a cold mindbeer (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, November 24, 2008 9:11 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


it's a collaboration between zooey deschanel and m. ward

(no, it's not good)

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, 24 November 2008 15:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

literally the only thing on that Mojo list that I don't hate is Fuck Buttons

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, 24 November 2008 15:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

You must be worn out.

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Monday, 24 November 2008 15:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I still haven't listened to Fleet Foxes or the new TV on the Radio tho, and I have a sneaking suspicion that I might like them.

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, 24 November 2008 15:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

also the one track I've heard off London Zoo wasn't bad

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, 24 November 2008 15:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Loooove seeing Torche at #1 on a metal list.

vampire baseball (call all destroyer), Monday, 24 November 2008 15:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

these annual reminders of how terrible most critics' taste is are kind of simultaneously depressing and reassuring

lex pretend, Monday, 24 November 2008 15:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

I quite liked that Late of the Pier album.

No medals though...

Mark G, Monday, 24 November 2008 15:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Loooove seeing Torche at #1 on a metal list.

― vampire baseball (call all destroyer), Monday, November 24, 2008 3:53 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


yeah this was kind of a cool surprise

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, 24 November 2008 16:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's blowing my mind that Portishead has only made one list so far.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 24 November 2008 16:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

exactly how I feel about Deerhunter

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, 24 November 2008 16:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

go torche!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 24 November 2008 16:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

I still haven't listened to Fleet Foxes or the new TV on the Radio tho, and I have a sneaking suspicion that I might like them.

― With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, November 24, 2008 10:40 AM (1 hour ago)

TVOTR = v. good
FF = exalted background music

k3vin k., Monday, 24 November 2008 16:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, FF definitely SOUND good, but there's not a lot of substance there.

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Blender list is like a list of albums.

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Still no Cut Copy, no Wolf Parade, no Blitzen Trapper, no Jay Reatard.. we have 1 mention of No Age, and 1 mention of The Sword..

These lists can suck a D.

billstevejim, Monday, 24 November 2008 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Man, people really do get worked up over lists that were compiled back before the year was even three-quarters finished. I've already turned in a couple lists for polls that were two months early, roughly speaking, and am putting some together before the year is up as well; the way "the year in" has dialed back further and further makes me uneasy. I kind of read them with a grain of salt that way.

Matos W.K., Monday, 24 November 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

there is no excuse for putting that astonishingly bad My Morning Jacket anywhere near a top albums list, even if it's "top albums that came out that week"

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hey, I've complained about the She & Him win elsewhere! I'm not making fun at all. I just find it kind of oddly encouraging that people actually care about this stuff.

Matos W.K., Monday, 24 November 2008 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

(I'm almost certain I've said that before on a previous year-end poll thread, but I've been up all night and am spacey. Onward.)

Matos W.K., Monday, 24 November 2008 17:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't really understand why people ever get outraged about their favorite albums not showing up on a particular year-end list (a need to confirm one's subjective opinion, maybe?), but especially when there are zillions of lists these days: no publication really has the authority anymore to single-handedly canonize albums, so why sweat it?

xpost haha (jaymc), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

be happy you have better taste than these schlubs!

aaaaa (jergins), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really like that Cut Copy disc, and I'm glad to see it not turning up on these lists...

henry s, Monday, 24 November 2008 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

you're right, but I like to see my favorite artists do well, so that's one reason. when p4k (for an obv example) puts you in their top ten, sales and concert tickets are gonna swell, no?

xp jay

k3vin k., Monday, 24 November 2008 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

xxp:

I am happy! it's just weird I guess -- I haven't really listened to that much new music this year, but most of the stuff from these lists that I've heard is so dull that I wouldn't have even remembered it came out this year.

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Monday, 24 November 2008 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

when p4k (for an obv example) puts you in their top ten, sales and concert tickets are gonna swell, no?

Yeah, I guess I've never really understood why people are invested in their favorite bands getting popular, either. As long as they're doing well enough to keep putting out albums and touring on a semi-regular basis, I don't care how many units they shift.

xpost haha (jaymc), Monday, 24 November 2008 18:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

anyone else shocked to see this on the mojo list?...

37 - Gavin Bryars & Philip Jeck & Alter Ego - The Sinking of the Titanic [2007]

was considering this for my list, but who turned those guys on to something like this???

psychgawsple, Monday, 24 November 2008 18:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

no Blitzen Trapper

they're #1 on my list of bands who, from reading reviews, i think will be awesome, but are completely disappointing to listen to.

Moreno, Monday, 24 November 2008 18:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think it's entirely depressing that anyone would pick a fifth-wave freak folk act as their #1 album of the year. surely something original happened in 2008?

psychgawsple, Monday, 24 November 2008 18:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think it's entirely depressing that anyone would keep count of how many waves of freak folk there have been now

dumb pseud (some dude), Monday, 24 November 2008 18:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

whats the Don Cavalli album like?

Michael B, Monday, 24 November 2008 18:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes yes, i clearly have a tally on my wall. apparently it's the most relevant form of music in 2008 though, so...

psychgawsple, Monday, 24 November 2008 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

8 - The Week That Was - The Week That Was

glad this is getting props somewhere, i'm really into it at the moment

ciderpress, Monday, 24 November 2008 20:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Do you mean Fleet Foxes psychgawsple?

I don't think they really sound like a freak folk group or even the descendants of freak folk (though they probably listened to the last Grizzly Bear album). Which is not to say they're doing anything new.

I like the album, but I'd be depressed if was number one on my list. Having said that, I think it's far more likely that it'll do well this year not because some people think it's the best thing of the year, but because heaps and heaps of people are ranking it about ten.

I kinda ruined my singles poll list for Pitchfork (in terms of expecting to have any effect on the outcome) by stuffing it with UK funky house tunes.

Tim F, Monday, 24 November 2008 20:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

indeed, it is not very 'freaky', but it is folksy psych-pop in that lineage (imo). and it seems to have a weird appeal to the more dance-music oriented set, which i simply don't understand (it looks like this'll be the #1 album over at djhistory!?!?!). it's easy to like but there's nothing exciting going on by any means.

and god bless you sir for bringing more funky UK house to the Pitchfork list

psychgawsple, Monday, 24 November 2008 20:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

I doubt any will make it into the final list though! This is the problem with these sorts of consensus lists, and exactly why something like Fleet Foxes tends to get overrated. In fact I think I'd say what Fleet Foxes have going for them is that they are a point where people with bad taste and people with good taste converge.

Tim F, Monday, 24 November 2008 21:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah but you guys do show individual lists too, right?

that's where you find the real gold

psychgawsple, Monday, 24 November 2008 21:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

The inclusion of Staind, Trivium, and Slipknot all make me cringe, but still, Metal Edge's EOY list is better than Decibel's, I think.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 03:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Without my vote I'm pretty sure Belphegor's Bondage Goat Zombie wouldn't have even made the Metal Edge top 50!!! (Also, my #1 vote for Equilibrium must have helped its placing.)

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 04:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Tremendous variety in that Metal Edge list. I didn't vote for Equilibrium, but I sure as hell admire it. That album is nuts.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 04:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

21 Erykah Badu - New Amerykah: Pt. One (4th World War)
19 Katy Perry - One Of The Boys

Trik Turner Fan Club President (Tape Store), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 04:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

the motherfuckers

Mikaael Jackson (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 04:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

yall didnt know matt armstrong was the editor of blender?

racist (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 04:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

was considering this for my list, but who turned (MOJO) on to something like this???

For all the Boomer Rock worship and Beatles covers the MOJO writers have actually been right there in terms of championing great bands early on.

Cunga, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 05:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

"One Of The Boys" is an abortion

billstevejim, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 05:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

No Gym Class Heroes, no dice

Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 05:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes but MOJO have never really been into experimental electronic or minimal composition in the past have they?

the bryars/jeck/alter ego project is not a band, it's actually jeck and alter ego re-working the classic bryars piece into something almost akin to 'the disintegration loops'

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 05:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is starting to be like in high school when jocks would ask, "Wait, you like rap? I thought you were into alternative."

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 25 November 2008 06:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's just that that album, and maybe Peter Broderick as well, are far more experimental/esoteric than the rest of that list. no need to call names matos, just wondering if this type of dabbling was something MOJO did more often

the previous lists had a predictable aesthetic (at least with Paste and Blender), i thought this was part of why writers contributed different lists to different magazines?

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 06:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have to recuse myself from commenting on the metal lists, but otherwise, Blender's is by far the best of these so far.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 06:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes but MOJO have never really been into experimental electronic or minimal composition in the past have they?

I don't know what the staff's iPod's look like but they seem to have an in-house expert on everything. (And if they don't have one for something they usually know where to find a good one)

Their canonizations and monthly covers can obscure that finer point though.

Cunga, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 07:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's probably a bit like Pitchfork's 2000 list where Gas' Pop stood out like a sore thumb amidst all the indie-rock (obv. Pitchfork's end of year lists are a bit different now). I queried this at the time and Mark Richardson (who obv likes a lot of electronic music) explained that he'd loved that album and converted several other writers. Pitchfork weren't trying to say this was the only good electronic album of that year, it's just that several writers happened to vote for it. I'm sure that Mojo has its equivalent or equivalents to Mark.

Which is totally fair enough. But it still points to the problem with tabulated lists generally: one reads meaning where in fact there is only statistical randomness.

Having said this, the "nine similar things plus one different thing" approach to individual end-of-year listmaking is always (to my mind) a sign that one should not take said list too seriously. The presence of the one different thing can only be seen as perplexing, ultimately meaningless - remember all those indie rock + Outkast album lists of 2003.

Tim F, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 07:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

ultimately meaningless

No, not at all. All those indie rockers came to the album for that one song. I think it was "Ghetto Musick."

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 07:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

i mean, "hey ya" was no pushover either

k3vin k., Tuesday, 25 November 2008 07:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

I queried this at the time and Mark Richardson (who obv likes a lot of electronic music) explained that he'd loved that album and converted several other writers.

I think the exact same thing happened the next year with Fennesz's "Endless Summer" at #2!

I agree with Tim for the most part, but statistical randomness in poll results is somewhat dependent on the point tallying system for the poll (yeah, I harp on this every year) ... so for example, one person might convert a bunch of colleagues to something completely new (to them), but chances are they'll toss that album in at #8 or #9 on their list, not #1 or #2, so if pollmakers choose an unweighted (50, 49, 48, ... 3, 2, 1) point scheme or even a mildly weighted scheme, then they're opening themselves up to having a poll that's inexplicably dominated by a bunch of #9 throw-in votes.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 09:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

The statistical-randomness bit is much closer to what I was referring to w/my high-school crack: it would be more unusual to not see those kinds of deviations on long lists like these ones.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 25 November 2008 11:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

OTOH the very fact that a single record stands out as a "deviation" on a list tends to suggest that the reigning ideology at that publication is a little too well entrenched.

(metal mags tend to be more honest about this - no non-metal whatsoever)

Tim F, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 11:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Surely Lil Wayne will be the main beneficiary of the 9th/10th votes this year. People who like hip hop but don't listen to it all the time tend to feel odd about not including at least one example in their top 10, even in a weak year, but what they intend to say - "I like hip hop even though I haven't heard much good stuff this year" - reads more as "I don't really like hip hop but feel obliged to include one album in order to seem eclectic", ie a sincere motive (at least in some cases) reads as a bogus one. Hence an album which even most Lil Wayne fans admit is patchy ends up, once the votes are tallied, looking like a masterpiece for want of any serious competition. Like Tim says, the same thing happened with OutKast in 2003, although I unfashionably still think that was genuinely deserving.

Anyway, the lists so far prove that my theory about Portishead placing highly in P&J obviously derives from hanging out with an unrepresentative number of Portishead fans.

Dorianlynskey, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 12:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Q Magazine

1 Kings of Leon - Because of The Times
2 Fleet Foxes - s/t
3 Coldplay - Viva La Vida...
4 Vampire Weekend - s/t
5 Glasvegas - s/t
6 Duffy - Rockferry
7 TV On The Radio - Dear, Science
8 Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid
9 The Racontuers - Consoluers of The Lonely
10 Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!
11. Sigur Ros - Með suð í eyrum við spilum endalaust
12 Keane - Perfect Symmetry
13 MGMT - Orcular Spectacular
14 Kaiser Chiefs - Off With Their Heads
15 Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
16 Hot Chip - Made In The Dark
17 Adele - 19
18 British Sea Power - Do You Like Rock Music?
19 Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree
20 The Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound
21 Razorlight - Slipaway Fires
22 The Killers - Day and Age
23 Beck - Modern Guilt
24 The Last Shadow Puppets - The Age of The Understatement
25 Metallica - Death Magnetic
26 Conor Oberst - s/t
27 Neil Diamond - Before Home
28 Paul Weller - 22 Dreams
29 AC/DC - Black Ice
30 Portishead - Third
31 Black Mountain - In The Future
32 Oasis - Dig Out Your Souk
33 Hercules & Love Affair - s/t
34 Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
35 The Hold Steady - Stay Positive
36 R.E.M. - Accelerate
37 Lykke Li - Youth Novels
38 John Mellencamp - LifeDeathLoveAndFreeedom
39 Santogold - s/t
40 My Morning Jacket - Evil Urges
41 Lindsey Buckingham - Gift of Screws
42 Liam Finn - I'll Be Lightning
43 Joan As Police Women - To Survive
44 Black Kids - Partie Traumatic
45 Jack Johnson - Sleep Through Stattic
46 Jenny Lewis - Acid Tounge
47 The Verve - Forth
48 Randy Newman - Harps and Angels
49 Emmylou Harris - All I Indented To Be
50 Dido - Safe Trip Home

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 12:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

How can all these mags release their best-of-2008 lists now, when there's still more than a month left of 2008?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 12:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Tradition

Dorianlynskey, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 12:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

wish these mags would show some balls for once and just do a Top 50 Albums We Feel Deserve More Love ignoring anything that went top 40 or sold over a certain amount. what is the point of a list like Q's? they could do something a lot more interesting and useful to their readers but no.

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 12:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

32 Oasis - Dig Out Your Souk

http://sail-world.com/photos/Med_Marrakech%20souk.jpg

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 13:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

what is the point of a list like Q's?

So that people who buy five albums a year and Q once or twice in a year can feel like they're catching up?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 13:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Including The Killers (this week no doubt) 28 of those albums made the UK top ten.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 13:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

So that people who buy five albums a year and Q once or twice in a year can feel like they're catching up?

why cater an EOY list for people who only buy your magazine once or twice a year? why fill it with best-selling albums when those same people could just go into Tesco and see the same albums there in the actual chart?

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 13:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

On further analysis if The Killers make #1 this weekend the list will have 15 chart toppers. You can see 13 of those records in this weeks Top 75. I also don't see why have a top 50 like that, has they gone down to 100 and put something you might not see in Tesco it might have been worthwhile.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 14:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I hear Uncut went with Portishead, haven't seen it myself but that's good to hear.

Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 14:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

why cater an EOY list for people who only buy your magazine once or twice a year?

"Cater" might be too strong a word, but there's def. a market for people who won't follow music all year-round but will pay closer attention at the end of the year because they know they everything they want to know will be condensed into convenient summaries. It's kind of the music equivalent of people who don't watch much sports, but stay glued to the TV during the Olympics, or even people who don't watch too many movies, but will watch the Academy Awards to check out the winners and make sure they haven't missed out on anything big.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Perhaps the Q list will convince them that they don't need to bother anymore.

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Those annual Q lists are the only ones which seriously raise my suspicions re. authenticity.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

mass outrage at middle aged music lists in magazines aimed at middle aged readers, News at Ten

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 15:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Before Paper Thin Walls shut down, we picked Portishead as our Album Of The Year...

So

Paper Thin Walls
1. Portishead - Third

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 16:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I like your approach.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 16:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ned's ballot:

1. Portishead - Third
2. The Cure - Disintegration Pt IV

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 16:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Voyage Home

da croupier, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 16:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sad thing is that's not too removed from the truth, which is another reason I'm not drawing up a list this year.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 16:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

These lists need more Matmos, methinks.

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 16:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don Cavalli album's pretty good tho it's like a parody on old blues albums done with electric gtrs

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

The only list I really get excited for anymore is probably THE WIRE list

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Surprised to see Bon Iver and Okkervil pop up but not Shearwater.

Simon H., Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

w/r/t to what Dorian said above, I just realized that I haven't voted for a single rap record this year, in all the various year-end lists I've submitted (they're different for diff publications for criteria reasons and the fact that I actually vote for "national" and "local" CDs for one outlet).

nothing was AWESOME in hip-hop this year, you know? and the likeliest candidates all got pushed back from late 2008 to early 2009.

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

simon otm

Q's list is really just depressing and is surely some cruel joke

k3vin k., Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

nothing was AWESOME in hip-hop this year, you know? and the likeliest candidates all got pushed back from late 2008 to early 2009.

― Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:16 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I mean, it wasn't the best year for hip-hop sure...

But The Roots, ABN, TI, Jeezy, Webbie and Guilty Simpson are all pretty awesome in my eyes.

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whiney, I'm going to go ahead and fess up that I haven't heard ANY of those!

Wait, who are ABN?

I spend waaaay too much time and energy listing to avant-garde and noise...

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

ABN are Assholes By Nature, Houston diehards Z-Ro and Trae together. I think all those records I mentioned are better than the Lil Wayne record.

If you like avant-garde and noise, i suggest starting with the Roots record, which is pretty apocalyptic and unforgiving and moving on to Guilty Simpson, which is Madlibby stuff that The Wire readers could prolly fuck with.

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, since you're here, can we talk about the best NOISE noise records (ie, harsh noise, not Fuck Buttons) of the year?

The only ones I've really loved are (in order)

1. Carlos Giffoni - Eternal Noise
2. Emeralds – Solar Bridge
3. Prurient - And Still Waiting
4. Burning Star Core - Challenger
5. The Goslings – Occasion
6. Robedoor - Rancor Keeper
7. Wold - Stratification
8. Skull Defekts - The Drone Drug

But I'm sure there's some I haven't copped. Supposedly Jason Crumer on Hospital is supposed to be ill.

But I'm sure there's a bunch

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

scratch that last line

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

also feeling nappy roots and bun b, in terms of hip-hop

lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, add Nappy Roots to that list, definitely!

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 17:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

nothing was AWESOME in hip-hop this year, you know? and the likeliest candidates all got pushed back from late 2008 to early 2009.

― Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:16 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

yah maybe try listening to rap before saying stuff like this??

deej, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

ooooooohboy I sure do love these conversations

dumb pseud (some dude), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

and the likeliest candidates all got pushed back from late 2008 to early 2009.

― Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:16 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

jay-z? common? timbaland?

racist (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

50 and Alchemist too (I don't think Common got pushed back to next year, though)

dumb pseud (some dude), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

whiney you HAVE to cop crumer, that disc is amazing

also i'll second prurient, giffoni (that album and his other releases), bxc

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

That Lil Wayne record should be finishing high in critics polls, probably higher than it has on these listed. I mean it's really good and really popular, which tends to be what rises to the top when consensus is measured.

I don't think it's the best record of the year or anything, but it's one of the best albums that also sold a lot and MIGHT be the best hip-hop album in a relatively weak year for hip-hop albums.

It's the preponderance of Fleet Foxes/My Morning Jacket/Kings of Leon/etc. indie-roots mediocrities that's more depressing.

Hubie Brown, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

deej, i'll amend what i said to

"nothing was AWESOME in hip-hop this year for me"

that i heard

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

carter iii was great for what it was but couldn't be top ten for me given that there was so much better stuff out in other genres

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

robedoor and pocahaunted kinda leave me a bit cold, to be honest

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pocahaunted is Pocahorrible

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Like if you're going to have a name that stupid, you better be awesome.

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Surprised Fennesz' Black Sea hasn't appeared in any list so far as I thought it was pretty much the mainstream ambient album and artist of choice. I suppose the late release is to blame.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 18:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Its not that good and it's no longer fashionable for indie fuXXors to rally around Funnesz

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Tape's Luminarium is much better in that vein, but it didn't get too much by means of press

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha i'll second that whiney

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

other great 08 noise: controlled dissonance, fuck buttons, growing, thurston moore, Istituzioni Ambienti Naturalismo / Lolita Vibrator Torture, whistletips, cash slave clique

more discussion of atlas sound plz

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

HOTOTOGISU people

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

also great: the north sea, satellite clouds, starving weirdos

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

In what issue will The Wire publish their list?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

traditionally, it's the december issue, i think

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

The old Stylus staff should compile one for old time's sake and put it on the site. When ILM does one, we should expand entries to 20 albums to keep it interesting.

The best lists usually turn me on to albums I missed. Cokemachineglow, Brainwashed, Silent Ballet and The Wire are good for that.

Looks like Kanye West and Killers will be underrepresented when they normally would likely rule the mainstream lists.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Some favorite noise and avant records of 2008:

zdzislaw pierik / piotr zabrodzki - namanga
william parker - double sunrise over neptune
li jianhong - san sheng shi
sean mccann - flutter oasis
astro echo the echo from the purple dawn
datashock & shivers - vol IV
nasa - bummer daze
natural snow buildings - laurie bird

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

is that Tape, as in the Häpna artist? i didn't know they even had anything new out.

pshrbrn, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

can you tell me about natural snow buildings?

forgot: neptune, "gong lake" (though it took me a while to "get" that one)

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whoah, didn't know about a new Tape record either! (and by the looks of it, it has been out for what, eight months? crazy!)

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think the problem everyone is having this year is that there hasnt been a definitive album which both mainstream and critics may agree on like say 'In Rainbows' or 'Person Pitch' last year. It hasn't been a very good year for pop or mainstream.

I still haven't ranked them as I don't have a favorite one but this are the records I listened to the most this year:


Jacaszek - Treny
Bruno Pronsato - Why Cant We Be Like Us
Clark - Turning Dragon
Shed - Shedding the past
Grouper - Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill
Zdzislaw Piernik & Piotr Zabrodzki - Namanga
Paavoharju - Laulu Laakson Kukista
Scott Tuma - Not for Nobody
Tape - Luminarium
Death Vessel - Nothing is good enough for us
Air France - No Way Down Ep
Four Tet - Ringer Ep

Also amidst a love/hate season with Lykke Li and Fleet Foxes. There's many things on both I like but I just cant seem to listen to the full album straight... they're very homogenic.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

@Beatrix: Natural Snow Buildings released seven (!) albums this year. It seems the most popular is 'Laurie Bird' wouldnt know about the rest since I've only listened 'Sung to the North' and it's decent. The opening track on Laurie Bird (46 minutes long) is a hell of a trip, the other two tracks are ok.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

For some reason people keep namedropping Vampire Weekend on Natural Snow Buildings reviews, when I can't hear any musical connection between them, anybody knows if they share a member or come from the same place or something?

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

no, natural snow buildings are french, and are really just two people. As far as I can tell there is absolutely not connection, musically or otherwise. people are crazy.

askance johnson, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 19:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Actually all I've read over and over is 'Better than Vampire Weekend'... I suppose it's some sort of joke then.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think the problem everyone is having this year is that there hasnt been a definitive album which both mainstream and critics may agree on like say 'In Rainbows' or 'Person Pitch' last year. It hasn't been a very good year for pop or mainstream.

Only someone with Paavoharju on their list would say that Person Pitch had mainstream resonance.

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ Wasn't it a global lovefest after pitchfork named it album of the year? I suppose I'm more forlorn than I thought I was :(

Are you dissing on Paavoharju?

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whiney's just does a victory dance anytime he finds someone indier than him.

dumb pseud (some dude), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wasn't it a global lovefest after pitchfork named it album of the year?

Maybe on some indie-leaning message boards, but I don't think Rolling Stone readers know Panda Bear from Grizzly Bear because of that. Also, Paavoharju's all right.

Whiney's just does a victory dance anytime he finds someone indier than him.

some dude and the art of feigned ignorance.

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

I wasn't making fun of his choices, I was just saying his thinking that blog-hyped indie rock bands having some sort of mainstream push may be because he dwells so intensely in deep cuts.

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Only someone with Paavoharju on their list would say that Person Pitch had mainstream resonance.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I thought maybe he meant to say Sound of Silver.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Or, for that matter, Graduation.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is there still such thing as "blog-hyped indie rock?" What blogs are still considered taste-makers?

Mordy, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

I know someone says this every year on these threads, but: it's impossible to keep up with every frickin' album that comes out in a given year. In addition to the gazillion albums that came out in 2008 that I didn't buy, download illegally, or receive as promos, there are a lot that I did get as promos but never had a free moment to play because I was too busy listening to other stuff for reviews or just living life generally. All of which is to say that there's no such thing as a totally wide-open top 10 list and there never will be, until, perhaps, Multivac is invented. And even then probably not.

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is there still such thing as "blog-hyped indie rock?" What blogs are still considered taste-makers?

My point exactly

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh yes, 'Sound of Silver' is a better example I guess, but anyways you got the point. Everyone already knew by November what album was ranking on the first place for them and this year it's been very harsh pleasing everyone by the choices, critics seem confused. The best records this year are too offbeat or strange for mainstream audience yet the pop releases have been very bland.

PS: I'm a girl.

As for music blogs which could be considered 'taste-makers' I'd nominate gorillavsbear.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

gotta second these noms for avant albums of the year...

paavoharju - laulu laakson kukista
natural snow buildings - laurie bird
emeralds – solar bridge
burning star core - challenger
the goslings – occasion

a few suggestions...

demons/hatred - split lp
liquid metal - alternative soundtrack to digital overdrive
u.s. girls - introducing...
teotihuacan - live smokeshows from inside the ciguri cave hazed diamonds with windswept hair
bulbs - light ships

no more... fuck buttons, please.

i kinda like pocahaunted, even though i'd choose mi ami over them any day of the week. speaking of which, add mi ami - african rhythms 12" to that suggestions list.

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

i would really hope gvb doesn't influence anyone's taste
sorry if anyone on that site is here but i really dislike that blog

xp

k3vin k., Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

The best records this year are too offbeat or strange for mainstream audience yet the pop releases have been very bland.

let's just talk about those offbeat ones then?!

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

I usually compile a top list and stick it on Last Fm but i dont think I can be bothered this year as There's just too much to choose from for me.
Of course maybe in january I'll end up making one like last year.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think gorillavsbear is only run by Chris and I doubt he visits this board. Personally I think it he tries to cover too much ground without really exploring anything but to his favor I'll say he has a strong personal taste, not that I agree with all of it but he seems to me more like an influence-maker than your average blogger. Also he receives Pitchfork's love and support every now and then so I assume half of pitchfork's readership is on to him.

xp

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

let's just talk about those offbeat ones then?!

― psychgawsple, martes 25 de noviembre de 2008 20:58 (6 minutes ago)

I don't know if this is the right thread for it :P

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost to psychgawsple: that Mi Ami 12" was pretty great, although I listened to it a lot more at 33 than 45 (don't ask). I remember hearing Burning Star Core and liking it, but not as much as I had hoped I would. how is the Demons/Hatred split? vinyl-only? I liked Evocation a lot, didn't know they had anything new out.

and I just now noticed Genghis Tron at number 3 on Decibel's list. I mean, I like that album, but... seriously?

With a little bit of gold and a Peja (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

gotta second these noms for avant albums of the year...

paavoharju - laulu laakson kukista
natural snow buildings - laurie bird
emeralds – solar bridge
burning star core - challenger
the goslings – occasion

a few suggestions...

demons/hatred - split lp
liquid metal - alternative soundtrack to digital overdrive
u.s. girls - introducing...
teotihuacan - live smokeshows from inside the ciguri cave hazed diamonds with windswept hair
bulbs - light ships

no more... fuck buttons, please.

i kinda like pocahaunted, even though i'd choose mi ami over them any day of the week. speaking of which, add mi ami - african rhythms 12" to that suggestions list.

I couldn't get into the Burning Star Core there's a trio of tracks I really enjoyed (Challenger, Mezzo Forte and Mysteries of the organ) but the rest is not as good. Same goes with Fuck Buttons, a couple of good tracks but that's it. Lot of those seem like they'll wind up on TinyMixtapes list.

I like the staff pick lists on Dusted Magazine. Every year they turn me on to some great record that went under my radar.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Screw magazines, where can I see some ilx people's lists?

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

i can post a tentative top 100 if anyone cares, or should that be another thread?

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Answered my own question:

So we're halfway through 2008; what are your top 10 albums of this year, so far?

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

it sounds great at 33 rpm! i did this on accident a couple times, and the room full of people i was with was fooled into liking the 33 rpm as well. makes the normal version seem so hyper, but obv they're both good.

i realllllly like that demons/hatred split, esp if you dug evocation.

also, it's funny when metal turns electronic. genghis tron and zombi are good examples of bands where metal kids hear something a little different and flip their shit for it, probably because they get so bogged down with technicality/musicianship/doooooom. i think this crosspollination is great though, although i'll admit to liking zombi much more than genghis tron

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ See I could never play something like Burning Star Core to anyone I know without them asking me to play something else. I need new friends.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

moka- tinymixtapes' eureka list and the dusted ones usually have some good picks, but i'd peruse the picks that volcanic tongue and aquarius have been making this year to maybe even predict what those will turn out like

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

^ links please?

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

here's my "indie rock" best of. totally boring! what can i say? i likes what i likes.
1. Robert Forster – The Evangelist
2. Pas/Cal – I Was Raised On Matthew Mark, Luke & Laura
3. James Blackshaw – Litany of Echoes
4. Stephen Malkmus – Real Emotional Trash
5. Earth – The Bees Made Honey In The Lion’s Skull
6. Destroyer – Trouble In Dreams
7. Lambchop – OH (Ohio)
8. Stereolab – Chemical Chords
9. Silver Jews – Lookout Mountain Lookout Sea
10. Lindstrom – Where You Go I Go Too

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

tylerw: How's that Lindstrom album? I loved the collaborative album with Prins Thomas released two years ago but for no real reason I haven't given this one a chance and I've been seeing it pop up on several lists.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

any rap lists?

dat dude delmar (and what), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's great! the lindstrom i mean. as perhaps the rest of my list suggests, it's not entirely my area of expertise, but it might be the new album i've listened to the most in the latter half of this year.

tylerw, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

been looking for that Pas/Cal thing for months now, was beginning to wonder if ti had even been released...

henry s, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's funny, i like the burning star core album more in an eno/tangerine dream kind of way more than anything else. even though arp's 'in light' is better in that respect (and way smooother)

oh, here are the links-
http://www.volcanictongue.com/?cat=1
http://www.aquariusrecords.org/

they're record stores that take the time to pick their favorite albums and write about them and every other release they choose to add to their shop. great resource

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

loved the lindstrom as well. just realized that the vinyl version is 3/4 prins thomas edits, as someone pointed out in the thread for that album.

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the links. Will check that lindstrom album then.

Also released this year is this great Nigerian Highlife Compilation on soundway:

http://kinosport.tv/notebook/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/nigerian-special.jpg

Great song selection and beautiful artwork.

Moka, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

we should make a reissues of the year thread

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 21:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't even know if I could make a top 10 out of things I heard this year, but...

people need to quit sleeping on the bug CD

I couldn't get into a mountain of one until the other day when I had a massive hangover and it was the only thing in the pile that made any sense. how is it not on any of these lists? also liked:

landed - how little will it take?
naked on the vague - blood pressure sessions
teeth mountain
some of that destroyer album

things I need to spend more time with: endless boogie, prurient

things I still haven't heard: the ex & getatchew mekurya, indian jewelry, made in mexico, usaisamonster, growing, no age, cut copy

things I tried to listen to but stopped because it felt like homework: marnie stern, ponytail, portishead, times new viking, guns n roses, vampire weekend

Edward III, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 22:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh shit I meant to put that on the other thread

Edward III, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 22:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Uncut magazine

Top 20

1. Third - Portishead
2. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
3. Dear Science - TV On The Radio
4. For Emma, Forever Ago - Bon Iver
5. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
6. The Seldom Seen Kid - Elbow
7. Stainless Style – Neon Neon
8. Dig!!! Lazarus, Dig!!! Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
9. Only By The Night - Kings Of Leon
10 22 Dreams - Paul Weller
11. Brighter Than Creation's Dark - Drive-by Truckers
12. Stay Positive - The Hold Steady
13. Litany of Echoes - James Blackshaw
14. Harps and Angels - Randy Newman
15. Made In The Dark - Hot Chip
16. Limbo, Panto - Wild Beasts
17. Seventh Tree - Goldfrapp
18. Real Emotional Trash - Stephen Malkmus
19. Rook - Shearwater
20. Evil Urges - My Morning Jacket

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 09:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Very pleased to see James Blackshaw at number 13 on the Uncut list.

ilxor, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 09:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

I didn't buy too much new suff this year, but the Nothing People LP stands out as something that would be in any lists I made.

razzle pyramid fatality (gnarly sceptre), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 10:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

i understand it's totally cliche to be like "omg yall lists suxxorz" but what is up with these? i'm glad RET is getting love though.

k3vin k., Wednesday, 26 November 2008 13:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fleet Foxes failing to get #1 in Uncut must be regarded as some sort of catastrophe for their PR people.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 13:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Seriously, what is up with My Morning Jacket making so many of these lists? That album had two or three good tracks and twelve average-to-total-shit songs. Any album that contains "The Librarian" and "Highly Suspicious" belongs nowhere near a best-of-year list.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 15:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fleet Foxes payback innit.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

They did get the inaugural Uncut Music Award however!

http://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/index.php?blog=13&p=1026&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Stevie T, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Since Dave Stelfox left Pitchfork I don't think they've gotten a new dancehall/reggae columnist so that means even less year-end critic coverage of reggae/dancehall

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 16:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork year-end reggae/dancehall coverage went up today here.

byebyepride, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 19:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

best 'noise' thing I heard this year was 'gongs of violence' by andrew coltrane. i think he has loads of discs and tapes out, they're probably all good. and pale fatal sister by hototogisu hit the spot w/ me

i loved solar bridge by emeralds, but don't see anything v. noise abt it

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 20:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm conscious that I've almost entirely missed out on the noise/Wire-oriented side of things this year (a situation admittedly not helped by the delibidinising effect of Wire writers, some of the most turgid and joyless writers the music press has to offer). So their EOY list might be of practical use to me for catch up purposes.

The only other EOY list I find of active use is the OMM one, which, though generally crap and predictable, is good on World Music and I do tend to blue pencil those entries.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 27 November 2008 08:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Hot Chip album seemed to get a mixed reaction on its release but it sure ain't doing badly in the year end lists.

sam500, Thursday, 27 November 2008 08:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's terrible except for "Shake a Fist"

The Saving Grace of Gospel House (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 November 2008 09:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

best Hot Chip track of the year, by a mile: Supermayer's remix of "One Pure Thought"

Matos W.K., Thursday, 27 November 2008 11:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really like the first two-thirds of the Hot Chip album but then it totally falls apart. That Supermayer remix is great though.

Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 November 2008 11:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't dislike hot chip by any means but calling that album the best of anything is a bit weird. though depressingly it does seem to be among the best of all the lists it's on :/

lex pretend, Thursday, 27 November 2008 11:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Supermayer's remix of "One Pure Thought"

does it sound anything like M83's 'Couleurs' (part of which reminds me of 'One Pure Thought' itself)?

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Thursday, 27 November 2008 12:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

It sounds like the DFA.

Matos W.K., Thursday, 27 November 2008 13:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

which also means it has great singles but the album is a little hard to make it through all the way

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 November 2008 13:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

We're talking about a remix, not an album.

Matos W.K., Thursday, 27 November 2008 13:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought we were talking about Hot Chip

i'm whine btw (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 27 November 2008 15:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

There has only been one mention of Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill by Grouper, and it wasn't even by a publication...That album is so amazing. Might be #1 this year for me.

jonathan - stl, Thursday, 27 November 2008 16:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

That's the retro shoegazing, dreamy, 4AD, slurred vocals, ambient, Yo La Tengoish group from Portland, right.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 November 2008 17:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's Liz Harris

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 27 November 2008 17:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pfunkboy wins.

jonathan - stl, Thursday, 27 November 2008 17:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

All her records are great.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 27 November 2008 17:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Uncut cont.

50 Mercury Rev - Snowflake Midnight
49 Brian Wilson - That Lucky Old Sun
48 Byrne/Eno - Everything That Happens..
47 Sic Alps - USEZ
46 Pete Greenwood - Sirens
45 The Fall - Imperial Wax Solvent
44 REM - Accelerate
43 Joan as Police Woman - To Survive
42 Metallica - Death Magnetic
41 James Yorkston - When The Haar Rolls In
40 That Was The Week - s/t
39 Beck - Modern Guilt
38 Endless Boogie - Focus Level
37 Lambchop - OH(Ohio)
36 Earth - The Bees Made Honey In The Lions Skull
35 Toumani Diabate - The Mande Variations
34 Fuck Buttons - Street Horrrsing
33 Sigur Ros - Bollocks to typing this out on a BlackBerry
32 Flight of The Conchords - s/t
31 White Denim - Workout Holiday
30 Gnarls Barkley - The Odd Couple
29 Robert Foster - The Evangelist
28 The Felice Brothers - s/t
27 MGMT - Orcular Spectacular
26 Lucinda Williams - s/t
25 Jenny Lewis - Acid Tongue
24 Glasvegas - s/t
23 Black Mountain - In The Future
22 The Raconteurs - Consolers of The Lonely
21 Howlin Rain - Magnificent Fiend

Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 28 November 2008 10:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

(note: at least two of these are made up)

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 28 November 2008 10:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

...the Nothing People LP stands out as something that would be in any lists I made

absolutely. a lot of good stuff on s-s this year.

psychgawsple, Friday, 28 November 2008 11:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

26 Lucinda Williams - s/t

This one came out 20 years ago.

mulla atari, Saturday, 29 November 2008 01:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sorry yeah, should be Little Honey.

Mitchell Stirling, Saturday, 29 November 2008 14:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

thanks for 21-50 Mitchell!

Bee OK, Sunday, 30 November 2008 04:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Everyone's a critic--

RYM's Current Top Rated of 2008

1. David Gilmour- Live in Gdańsk
2. Portishead- Third
3. Opeth- Watershed
4. Esoteric- The Maniacal Vale
5. TV on the Radio- Dear Science
6. Fleet Foxes
7. Amon Amarth- Twilight of the Thunder God
8. Deerhunter- Microcastle / Weird Era Cont.
9. Muse- HAARP
10. Coldworld- Melancholie²
11. Nomo- Ghost Rock
12. Suspyre- When Time Fades...
13. Cult of Luna- Eternal Kingdom
14. Gojira- The Way of All Flesh
15. Thrice- The Alchemy Index: Volume III + IV - Air & Earth
16. Septic Flesh- Communion
17. Flight of the Conchords
18. Testament- The Formation of Damnation
19. Elbow- The Seldom Seen Kid
20. Sun Kil Moon- April
21. Erykah Badu- New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)
22. Bar Kokhba- Lucifer: Book of Angels Volume 10
23. Cut Copy- In Ghost Colours
24. Have a Nice Life- Deathconsciousness
25. Darkspace- Dark Space III

President Keyes, Sunday, 30 November 2008 15:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

That RYM list will probably change/update in a few days.

billstevejim, Sunday, 30 November 2008 16:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

It changes often but those positions have been steady for awhile now. There does seem to be an effort to knock that Gilmour album down though.

President Keyes, Sunday, 30 November 2008 18:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Presumably an effort of some sort put it there in the first place?

M.V., Sunday, 30 November 2008 19:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really love that Have A Nice Life album. One of the finds of the year. And Esoteric is probably my joint fave of the year along with the Portishead.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 November 2008 20:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's already down to #8 ha. that list is way different even now, 4 hours later.

i don't think that list should even count since it'll continually change and morph for, you know, ever

psychgawsple, Sunday, 30 November 2008 20:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

i was referring to the david gilmour, btw

psychgawsple, Sunday, 30 November 2008 20:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks for posting these everyone. The next ones to usually come are:

Clash Magazine
Drowned In Sound
Muzzle Of Bees
Gorilla Vs. Bear
Fact Magazine
NME

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 30 November 2008 21:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kerrang will be
1) Metallica - Boringly overrated album
2-24) Some emo shite of pretty boys with girly hair.
25) Token metal album.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 30 November 2008 22:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

RYM updates about once a month.. weird coincidence.

billstevejim, Sunday, 30 November 2008 23:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

XLR8R magazine

Top 25 Albums of 2008
http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2008/11/top-25-portishead-daedelus-foals

Atlas Sound Let the Blind Lead Those Who See But Cannon Feel kranky

Beach House Devotion Carpark

Brenda Ray Walatta EM

Bun-B Il Trill Rap-a-lot

Daedelus Love to Make Music To Ninja Tune

Dizzee Rascal Maths + English Def Jux

Flying Lotus Los Angeles Warp

Foals Antidotes Sub Pop

Glass Candy Beatbox Italians Do It Better

Jeremy Jay A Place Where We Could Go K

Kelley Polar I need to Hold on While the Sky is Falling Environ

Lindstrøm Where You Go I Go Too Smalltown Supersound

Lone Lemurian Dealmaker

M83 Saturdays = Youth Mute

MGMT Oracular Spectacular Sony

The Notwist The Devil, You + Me Domino

Portishead Third Mercury

Syclops I've Got My Eye on You DFA

Spiritualized Songs in A & E Universal

The Mole High as the Sky Wagon Repair

Throw Me the Statue Moonbeams Secretly Canadian

Tobacco Fucked Up Friends anticon.

Xiu Xiu Women as Lovers Kill Rock Stars

Yelle Pop-Up Carolina

Zomes Zomes Holy Mountain

djmartian, Sunday, 30 November 2008 23:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

good list - jeremy jay is really good

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 30 November 2008 23:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

UK jazz music monthly magazine - Jazzwise

Jazzwise Magazine - Albums of the Year 2008
http://tinyurl.com/5vweps

1 Dave Holland Sextet Pass It on Dare2
2 EST Leucocyte ACT
3 Django Bates and Stormchaser Spring Is Here (Shall We Dance) Lost Marble
4 Ambrose Akinmusire Prelude To Cora FSNT
5 Bobo Stenson Cantando ECM
6 Dave Douglas and Keystone Moonshine Greenleaf
7 Jazz Warriors Afropeans Destin-e
8 Joe Zawinul And The Zawinul Syndicate 75th BHM/Birdjam
9 Bill Frisell History Mystery Nonesuch
10 JD Allen I Am I Am Sunnyside

djmartian, Sunday, 30 November 2008 23:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

monthly update for...

UPDATE : 01/12/08 : MEGA-CRITIC : Best Reviewed Albums Of 2008 So Far
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/926600

THE MEGA-CRITIC CHART :

The current position is followed by last month´s position in brackets, then the adjusted score, followed by the average rating and the number of reviews in brackets.

The scores after the title are the individual positions/adjusted scores for Europe, the UK and the US, followed by the current Metacritic score.
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/926600

50. (47 ) 65,00 - 72,43 (21 ) Joan As Police Woman ´To Survive´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 14. 71,43 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

50. (47 ) 65,00 - 74,75 (16 ) Neon Neon ´Stainless Style´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 23. 70,41 - US : 00000000 - MC : 79

49. (46 ) 65,04 - 75,47 (15 ) Al Green ´Lay It Down´
EU : 47. 65,29 - UK : 00000000 - US : 43. 67,44 - MC : 81

48. (44 ) 65,20 - 71,52 (25 ) Beck ´Modern Guilt´
EU : 55. 64,65 - UK : 00000000 - US : 69. 65,80 - MC : 77

47. (43 ) 65,24 - 73,58 (19 ) Spiritualized ´Songs In A & E´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 65. 67,05 - US : 46. 67,28 - MC : 76

46. (42 ) 65,24 - 71,58 (25 ) Cat Power ´Jukebox´
EU : 30. 66,72 - UK : 00000000 - US : 91. 64,90 - MC : 72

45. (41 ) 65,31 - 71,68 (25 ) Magnetic Fields ´Distortion´
EU : 25. 67,78 - UK : 00000000 - US : 40. 67,50 - MC : 79

44. (40 ) 65,33 - 74,36 (11 ) Opeth ´Watershed´
EU : 14. 69,56 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 82

43. (39 ) 65,33 - 74,71 (17 ) Why? ´Alopecia´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 11. 70,10 - MC : 76

42. (38 ) 65,33 - 71,98 (24 ) The Breeders ´Mountain Battles´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 39. 68,37 - US : 19. 68,93 - MC : 75

41. (36 ) 65,42 - 75,44 (16 ) Lindström ´Wherever You Go I Go Too´
EU : 100.62,60 - UK : 89. 66,18 - US : 31. 68,04 - MC : 82

40. (00 ) 65,42 - 80,00 (11 ) Q-Tip ´The Renaissance´
EU : 45. 65,48 - UK : 00000000 - US : 55. 66,67 - MC : 84

39. (35 ) 65,46 - 72,77 (22 ) Lykke Li ´Youth Novels´
EU : 37. 65,90 - UK : 83. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

38. (34 ) 65,47 - 77,85 (13 ) Robert Forster ´The Evangelist´
EU : 23. 67,89 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

37. (00 ) 65,51 - 80,18 (11 ) Amadou & Mariam ´Welcome To Mali´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 10. 73,08 - US : 00000000 - MC : 93

36. (37 ) 65,55 - 77,11 (14 ) Gang Gang Dance ´Saint Dymphna´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 09. 70,45 - MC : 77

35. (33 ) 65,67 - 73,43 (21 ) The Black Keys ´Attack & Release´
EU : 31. 66,69 - UK : 83. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

34. (32 ) 65,70 - 77,36 (14 ) Bonnie ´Prince´ Billy ´Lie Down In The Light´
EU : 48. 65,18 - UK : 46. 67,65 - US : 100.64,52 - MC : 81

33. (00 ) 65,77 - 75,41 (17 ) El Guincho ´Alegranza´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 56. 67,35 - US : 49. 67,17 - MC : 78

32. (30 ) 65,83 - 73,32 (22 ) Wolf Parade ´At Mount Zoomer´
EU : 24. 67,84 - UK : 00000000 - US : 29. 68,21 - MC : 78

31. (29 ) 66,10 - 73,71 (22 ) Santogold ´Santogold´
EU : 26. 67,58 - UK : 00000000 - US : 18. 69,13 - MC : 77

30. (28 ) 66,18 - 79,16 (13 ) Late Of The Pier ´Fantasy Black Channel´
EU : 60. 64,28 - UK : 09. 73,47 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

29. (27 ) 66,20 - 75,56 (18 ) Los Campesinos! ´Hold On Now, Youngster´
EU : 72. 63,68 - UK : 39. 68,37 - US : 48. 67,22 - MC : 81

28. (26 ) 66,37 - 74,48 (21 ) Okkervil River ´The Stand Ins´
EU : 46. 65,30 - UK : 74. 66,67 - US : 39. 67,55 - MC : 79

27. (25 ) 66,41 - 75,89 (18 ) Drive-By Truckers ´Brighter Than Creation´s Dark´
EU : 08. 70,70 - UK : 00000000 - US : 99. 64,71 - MC : 83

26. (24 ) 66,43 - 73,26 (25 ) R.E.M. ´Accelerate´
EU : 67. 63,93 - UK : 25. 69,39 - US : 44. 67,35 - MC : 79

25. (22 ) 66,51 - 74,69 (21 ) The Gutter Twins ´Saturnalia´
EU : 16. 68,85 - UK : 42. 67,95 - US : 00000000 - MC : 80

24. (21 ) 66,86 - 73,88 (25 ) Hot Chip ´Made In The Dark´
EU : 39. 65,87 - UK : 00000000 - US : 13. 69,51 - MC : 78

23. (20 ) 66,90 - 74,54 (23 ) MGMT ´Oracular Spectacular´
EU : 10. 70,24 - UK : 23. 70,41 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76

22. (19 ) 67,12 - 75,60 (21 ) Black Mountain ´In The Future´
EU : 21. 68,19 - UK : 65. 67,05 - US : 68. 65,88 - MC : 79

21. (45 ) 67,32 - 79,33 (15 ) Fucked Up ´The Chemistry Of Modern Life´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 34. 69,23 - US : 05. 72,35 - MC : 84

20. (18 ) 67,38 - 76,90 (19 ) The Dodos ´Visiter´
EU : 51. 64,91 - UK : 20. 70,46 - US : 40. 67,50 - MC : 83

19. (17 ) 67,61 - 75,93 (22 ) Sigur Ros ´Med Sud I Eyrum Vid Spilum Endalaust´
EU : 13. 69,89 - UK : 25. 69,39 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

18. (16 ) 67,66 - 78,47 (17 ) No Age ´Nouns´
EU : 18. 68,56 - UK : 00000000 - US : 21. 68,73 - MC : 79

17. (15 ) 67,87 - 75,96 (23 ) The Last Shadow Puppets ´The Age Of Understatement´
EU : 05. 71,53 - UK : 83. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 77

16. (31 ) 67,90 - 77,20 (20 ) Deerhunter ´Microcastles´
EU : 69. 63,86 - UK : 74. 66,67 - US : 04. 72,86 - MC : 81

15. (14 ) 67,92 - 79,56 (16 ) The Bug ´London Zoo´
EU : 43. 65,53 - UK : 13. 71,59 - US : 51. 67,10 - MC : 90

14. (13 ) 67,94 - 78,91 (17 ) Elbow ´The Seldom Seen Kid´
EU : 58. 64,42 - UK : 06. 74,49 - US : 00000000 - MC : 82

13. (23 ) 68,50 - 83,31 (13 ) Glasvegas ´Glasvegas´
EU : 03. 72,66 - UK : 25. 69,39 - US : 00000000 - MC : 82

12. (12 ) 68,86 - 79,18 (19 ) Silver Jews ´Lookout Mountain, Lookout Sea´
EU : 22. 68,03 - UK : 17. 70,51 - US : 25. 68,53 - MC : 78

11. (11 ) 69,26 - 80,39 (18 ) Erykah Badu ´New Amerykah : Part One (4th World War)´
EU : 17. 68,60 - UK : 34. 69,23 - US : 10. 70,11 - MC : 82

10. (10 ) 69,53 - 81,47 (17 ) Lil Wayne ´Tha Carter III´
EU : 06. 71,06 - UK : 46. 67,65 - US : 16. 69,22 - MC : 82

09. (09 ) 69,77 - 81,19 (18 ) Randy Newman ´Harps & Angels´
EU : 04. 72,12 - UK : 46. 67,65 - US : 52. 67,08 - MC : 85

08. (08 ) 70,63 - 78,89 (26 ) Vampire Weekend ´Vampire Weekend´
EU : 07. 70,97 - UK : 14. 71,43 - US : 14. 69,46 - MC : 82

07. (07 ) 70,89 - 79,94 (24 ) Hercules And Love Affair ´Hercules And Love Affair´
EU : 20. 68,23 - UK : 06. 74,49 - US : 71,18 - MC : 86

06. (06 ) 71,84 - 80,92 (25 ) The Hold Steady ´Stay Positive´
EU : 12. 70,14 - UK : 05. 75,51 - US : 08. 70,80 - MC : 85

05. (05 ) 71,87 - 81,76 (23 ) Bon Iver ´For Emma, Forever Ago´
EU : 11. 70,19 - UK : 01. 77,55 - US : 23. 68,63 - MC : 89

04. (04 ) 73,15 - 82,40 (26 ) Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds ´Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!´
EU : 09. 70,29 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 02. 74,11 - MC : 87

03. (03 ) 73,30 - 82,62 (26 ) TV On The Radio ´Dear Science´
EU : 15. 69,16 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 01. 76,16 - MC : 88

02. (02 ) 74,07 - 83,69 (26 ) Portishead ´Third´
EU : 02. 74,48 - UK : 06. 74,49 - US : 03. 73,13 - MC : 85

01. (01 ) 76,56 - 88,06 (24 ) Fleet Foxes ´Fleet Foxes´
EU : 01. 79,83 - UK : 02. 76,53 - US : 06. 71,96 - MC : 87

THE BUBBLERS :

99. (00 ) 63,16 - 73,69 (13 ) Metronomy ´Nights Out´
EU : 63. 64,04 - UK : 83. 66,33 - US : 00000000 - MC : 70

96. (00 ) 63,20 - 73,00 (14 ) Friendly Fires´Friendly Fires´
EU : 99. 62,69 - UK : 65. 67,05 - US : 00000000 - MC : 74

92. (00 ) 63,45 - 71,22 (18 ) Wild Beasts ´Limbo Panto´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 30. 69,32 - US : 88. 65,00 - MC : 78

89. (00 ) 63,57 - 75,33 (12 ) High Places ´High Places´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 25. 68,53 - MC : 75

86. (00 ) 63,59 - 74,46 (13 ) Juana Molina ´Un Dia´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 00000000 - US : 12. 69,57 - MC : 77

84. (86 ) 63,71 - 75,58 (12 ) The Week That Was ´The Week That Was´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 65. 67,05 - US : 00000000 - MC : 82

76. (00 ) 64,09 - 72,71 (17 ) White Denim ´Workout Holiday / Exposion´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 20. 70,46 - US : 00000000 - MC : 76/73

74. (00 ) 64,11 - 73,28 (16 ) Los Campesinos! ´We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 74. 66,67 - US : 22. 68,66 - MC : 81

71. (92 ) 64,33 - 76,75 (12 ) Dungen ´4´
EU : 82. 63,38 - UK : 00000000 - US : 93. 64,88 - MC : 79

65. (67 ) 64,56 - 72,53 (19 ) Deerhoof ´Offend Maggie´
EU : 00000000 - UK : 42. 67,95 - US : 45. 67,32 - MC : 81

56. (73 ) 64,79 - 74,41 (16 ) The Acorn ´Glory Hope Mountain´
EU : 77. 63,46 - UK : 65. 67,05 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

55. (00 ) 64,91 - 79,00 (11 ) The Gaslight Anthem ´The ´59 Sound´
EU : 32. 66,64 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 00

54. (00 ) 64,95 - 82,22 (09 ) Johann Johannsson ´Fordlandia´
EU : 28. 67,02 - UK : 00000000 - US : 00000000 - MC : 81

FURTHER EU-POSITIONS :

19. (19 ) 68,51 Ry Cooder ´I, Flathead´
27. (27 ) 67,50 Madrugada ´Madrugada´
29. (28 ) 67,02 The Notwist ´The Devil, You And Me´
33. (00 ) 66,62 Rachel Unthank & The Winterset ´The Bairns´
34. (31 ) 66,42 Brian Wilson ´That Lucky Old Sun´
35. (32 ) 66,17 Elvis Costello & Imosters ´Momofuku´
36. (33 ) 66,10 Conor Oberst ´Conor Oberst´
38. (35 ) 65,89 Death Cab For Cutie ´Narrow Stairs´
40. (37 ) 65,77 Willard Grant Conspiracy ´Pilgrim Road´
41. (38 ) 65,70 Tindersticks ´The Hungry Saw´
42. (39 ) 65,61 Ron Sexsmith ´Exit Strategy Of The Soul´
44. (41 ) 65,49 Isobel Campbell & Mark Lanegan ´Sunday At Devil Dirt´
49. (45 ) 65,00 Sascha Funke ´Mango´
49, (45 ) 65,00 Emmylou Harris ´All I Intend To Be´

FURTHER UK-POSITIONS :

11. (10 ) 72,45 British Sea Power ´Do You Like Rock Music?´
12. (11 ) 72,41 Plush ´Fed´
16. (15 ) 70,59 Eliza Carthy ´Dreams Of Breathing Underwater´
17. (16 ) 70,51 Johnny Flynn ´A Larum´
17. (16 ) 70,51 Paul Weller ´22 Dreams´
20. (19 ) 70,46 Metallica ´Death Magnetic´
25. (24 ) 69,39 These New Puritans ´Beat Pyramid´
25. (24 ) 69,39 Mystery Jets ´Twenty One´
30. (29 ) 69,32 Cass Mccombs ´Dropping The Writ´
30. (29 ) 69,32 Roots Manuva ´Slime & Reason´
30. (29 ) 69,32 David Holmes ´The Holy Pictures´
34. (33 ) 69,23 DeVotchKa ´A Mad And Faithful Telling´
34. (33 ) 69,23 Teddy Thompson ´A Piece Of What You Need´
38. (36 ) 69,12 Thea Gilmore ´Liejacker´
39. (38 ) 68,37 The Raconteurs ´Consolers Of The Lonely
42. (41 ) 67,95 Cadence Weapon ´Afterparty Babies´
42. (41 ) 67,95 Sparks ´Exotic Creatures Of The Deep´
46. (44 ) 67,65 Toumani Diabaté ´The Mandé variations´
46. (44 ) 67,65 Benga ´Diary Of An Afro Warrior´
46. (44 ) 67,65 Fuck Buttons ´Street Horrrsing´
46. (44 ) 67,65 Flight Of The Conchords ´Flight Of The Conchords´
46. (44 ) 67,65 Kasai All Stars ´In The 7th Moon ...´
46. (44 ) 67,65 Lyindsey Buckingham ´Gift Of Screws´
46. (44 ) 67,65 Bellowhead ´Matachin´

FURTHER US-POSITIONS :

15. (14 ) 69,24 Robyn ´Robyn´(2005)
16. (15 ) 69,22 The Mountain Goats ´Heretic Pride´
20. (19 ) 68,78 Times New Viking ´Rip It Off´
24. (RE ) 68,54 The Music Tapes ´Music Tapes For Clouds And Tornadoes´
27. (23 ) 68,48 Wire ´Object 47´
28. (24 ) 68,33 Torche ´Meanderthal´
30. (27 ) 68,06 Shugo Tokumaru ´Exit´
31. (00 ) 68,04 Marnie Stern ´This Is It & I Am It ...´
33. (29 ) 67,93 Leila ´Blood, Looms & Blooms´
34. (30 ) 67,72 Ellen Allien ´Sool´
35. (31 ) 67,68 Matmos ´Supreme Balloon´
36. (32 ) 67,65 Destroyer ´Trouble In Dreams´
37. (33 ) 67,56 Kelley Polar ´I Need You To hold On ...´
37. (33 ) 67,56 Harvey Milk ´Life ... The Best Game In Town´
40. (36 ) 67,50 Women ´Women´
47. (00 ) 67,26 David Byrne/Brian Eno ´Everything That Happens ...´
49. (44 ) 67,17 Calexico ´Carried To Dust´

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djmartian, Sunday, 30 November 2008 23:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Textura
http://www.textura.org/reviews/2008top10s.htm

TOP 20 ALBUMS • 30 HONOURABLE MENTIONS • 20 COMPILATIONS AND MIXES • 20 EPS / SINGLES / 12-INCH DISCS • ADDITIONAL HIGHLIGHTS • THANK YOUS

including: Top 20 Albums

01. Rudi Arapahoe: Echoes From One To Another (Symbolic Interaction)
02. Cyne: Starship Utopia (Project Mooncircle) / Pretty Dark Things (Hometapes)
03. The Foreign Exchange: Leave It All Behind (Hard Boiled)
04. Mathieu Ruhlmann + Celer: Mesoscaphe (Spekk)
05. Deepchord: Vantage Isle Sessions (Echospace [ Detroit ])
06. Rick Wade: The Good, The Bad, And The Deep (Yore)
07. Gregor Samsa: Rest (Own Records)
08. orchestramaxfieldparrish: The Silent Breath Of Emptiness (Faith Strange)
09. Mlle Caro & Franck Garcia: Pain Disappears (Buzzin' Fly)
10. Twine: Violets (Ghostly)
11. Willits + Sakamoto: Ocean Fire (12k)
12. Osborne: Osborne (Spectral Sound)
13. Michna: Magic Monday (Ghostly)
14. Nicolay & Kay: Time:Line (Nicolay Music)
15. School Of Seven Bells: Alpinisms (Ghostly)
16. Deadbeat: Roots And Wire (Wagon Repair)
17. Beneva Vs Clark Nova: Sombunall (Fenetre)
18. Jacaszek: Treny (Miasmah)
19. Flying Lotus: Los Angeles (Warp)
20. Dday One: Heavy Migration (Content)

30 HONOURABLE MENTIONS

21. Celer: The Everything And The Nothing / Discourse Of The Withered (Infraction)
22. Goldfrapp: Seventh Tree (Mute)
23. Benga: Diary Of An Afro Warrior (Tempa)
24. Susanna: Flower Of Evil (Rune Grammofon)
25. 2tall: The Softer Diagram (Content)
26. Masaoka: For Birds, Planes, And Cello; While I Was Walking, I Heard A Sound (Solitary B)
27. Aloof Proof: Piano Text (Infraction)
28. Kiln: Thermals (Infraction)
29. Dreamsploitation: Soft Focus Sound Of Today (From Here To There)
30. Peter Broderick: Docile (Kning Disk)
31. Autistici: Volume Objects (12k)
32. Mico Nonet: The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet)
33. Yair Etziony: Flawed (Spekk)
34. Stephan Mathieu: Radioland (Die Schachtel)
35. Library Tapes: A Summer Beneath The Trees (Make Mine Music)
36. The Retail Sectors: Starlight Silent Night (Symbolic Interaction)
37. Sawako: Bitter Sweet (12k)
38. Motorcitysoul: Technique (Simple Records)
39. Rae Davis: Positive Thinking (Exponential)
40. Hatchback: Color Of The Sun (Backspin)
41. Windy & Carl: Songs For The Broken Hearted (kranky)
42. Slow Dancing Society: Priest Lake Circa ‘88 (Hidden Shoal)
43. Lisa Nordström: 7 States Of Passion (Kning Disk)
44. Ezekiel Honig: Surfaces of a Broken Marching Band (Anticipate)
45. Sleepingdog: Polar Life (Gizeh)
46. Harold Budd-Clive Wright: A Song For Lost Blossoms (Darla)
47. Stray Ghost: Losthilde (Highpoint Lowlife)
48. Sans Serif: Tones For Lamonte (Hypnos)
49. Spectral Lore-Underjordiska: Split (Stellar Auditorium)
50. Derek Carr: Digital Space Race (Psychonavigation)

djmartian, Monday, 1 December 2008 13:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

48. Sans Serif: Tones For Lamonte (Hypnos)

The Stereo Image dude?

Andy K, Monday, 1 December 2008 14:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

no

2008. Sans Serif is an alter ego of Forrest Fang, the talented multi-instrumentalist and composer whose most recent solo album Gongland was released on Projekt in 2000. He has also collaborated with Carl Weingarten on the album Invisibility released on The Foundry, as well as contributing instrumentally to the works of other artists such as Robert Rich.

Unlike the more traditionally structured and "musical" work Fang releases under his own name, the Sans Serif project is focused on minimalism. This project in particular is a tribute to the influential minimalist composer LaMonte Young, whose work was known for the use of long, sustained tones and alternate tunings. Of this project, Forrest Fang says:

http://hypnos.com/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/archive/newsletter/20080717155015/

djmartian, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

i've heard of maybe ten of those fifty

k3vin k., Monday, 1 December 2008 15:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

That list is full of OK semi-experimental music that gets lost in the pile

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 December 2008 16:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

from Vice London

Number 35: Bonkers novelty rap collective. Shows staff have sense of humour.
Number 34: Reserved for Britpop 'survivors' who’ve made 'their best album in years'.
Number 33: Wacky side-project of big-name band singer, which is a wacky electro-pop concept album about magic animals.
Number 32: Something from Iceland.
Number 31: The name that keeps turning up on every electro/house compilation CD released that year. eg. Simian Mobile Disco in 07.
Number 30: Real authentic alt.country dude who made the album in a cave in the Appalachians/once dated Joanna Newsom.
Number 29: Return of once-derided old-timer who used to symboise naffness, but has subverted expectations by making an album of honest, brooding ballads with a hip young producer.
Number 28: This space is reserved for Bruce Springsteen if he makes an album in the year of the list. If not, The Gaslight Anthem or Hold Steady should sub-in.
Number 27: Nick Cave.
Number 26: Disappointing third album from previously much-touted act, so bad editorial embarrassment means its been crowbarred in here as a Pravda-style exercise in shrinking them slowly rather than dropping them like a hot brick as would be most appropriate.
Number 25: The band that everyone was tipping as the year's biggest act in January.
Number 24: You've never even heard of this one. You never will. Even as your read the blurb, you find your mind simultaneously erasing the entry.
Number 23: Glitchy & worthy & difficult record you've listened to once. Squarepusher, basically.
Number 21: British Sea Power.
Number 20: Token world muso.
Number 19: The band who've got a reputation for being 'influential', and have a geographically specific 'scene' organised around them that they put on semi-mythical 'parties' for at a semi-mythical 'venue'. eg: No Age & The Smell, Chairlift & Concert Hall Of Williamsburg.
Number 18: Band who wrote album of songs inspired by the tragic accidental/drug death of their bass player last year. Somewhere, the blurb says 'courageous'.
Number 17: Laura Marling.
Number 16: Cheesy pop band masquerading as 'wonky-pop'/'nu-pop'/'underground pop', which only barely disguises the fact that they're Roxette with alt. dress sense.
Number 16: Put in a 'stunning' performance on Jools Holland.
Number 15: DJ who made “the year's party-starting mash-up compilation” that you've never actually heard at a party that wasn't put on by media-insiders. And never made any of those partygoers do more than pout extra aggressively.
Number 14: Elbow.
Number 13: Hyper-obscure album everyone was bamboozled into voting for cos Pitchfork gave it a 9.9, despite sounding like every other folk album ever.
Number 12: Rapper facing child sex charges.
Number 11: Dizzee/Bizzle (pop grime slot shared on a rotational basis)
Number 10: Album described as a 'groundbreaking fusion of dance and rock'.
Number 9: Tape of Bob Dylan coughing up some phlegm in June 1972, found in someone's attic, dusted off, reissued, and hagiographised in the Sunday papers as a heartbreaking work of staggering genius.
Numbers 8 – 2: Records that were OK: no one was mad about them, but no one disliked them much either, so they swum through the middle course, whereas intense records that some people were truly passionate about but others really hated all ultimately failed to make the cut.
Number 1: Coldplay (Q), Arctic Monkeys (NME), Sven Vath (Mixmag), Neil Young (Uncut), Neil Young (Mojo), Neil Young (Classic Rock), Neil Young (Home & Garden), people humming transcendentally over distorted tape loops of concrete being laid (The Wire).

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 December 2008 17:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

that's not very funny

dat dude delmar (and what), Monday, 1 December 2008 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's (not very) funny cos it's true

DavidM, Monday, 1 December 2008 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

from Vice London

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 December 2008 17:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Concert Hall Of Williamsburg

CHOW

gabbneb, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

I always kind of liked Yancey Strickler's taxonomy of top 10 lists:

01 The Consensus Pick
The first choice sets the tone for the entire list. A critic can either go for the consensus top pick, which earn the trust of a reader, or could make a grand statement by choosing an unlikely number one. 95% of the time a critic will opt for the cultural product he likes that most other people like as well.

02 The Real Number One
I generally assume that the number two item on a Top Ten list is a writer's real number one, especially if it's something that's not especially familiar to the reader. It takes courage to put one's idiosyncratic tastes front and center; it's safer to tuck it in just a bit.

03 The One They Will No Longer Like Next Year
If any spot lends itself to listing something that a critic wants to like rather than actually likes, it's the third place. Maybe the critic likes the idea of the product more than the product itself. Maybe the critic thinks that the item gives him a certain amount of cultural capital to wield. In the movie world, this is known as The Foreign Film Slot.

04 The Disappointment
This is something that early on seemed like a potential number one, but that has not stood up well to repeated viewings/readings/listenings. Always avoid number four.

05 The Sentimental Favorite
Placed any higher and this would stick out as either pedestrian or foolhardy. Put here in the middle, it can instead be merely a curiosity. Number five is a good personality slot — you can tell a lot about a critic by what goes here.

06 Wish They Liked It More Than They Do
This is a retread of number four, only there were lower expectations going into it. There are good moments, but more than likely the critic is the only one who hears them.

07 The Popular Kid
The blockbuster/bestseller that the critic didn't completely dislike goes here, simply because it will give the reader a sense of comfort that will be needed through the final three.

08 The Token
Somewhere between number seven and number nine you'll get the token selection from a genre that a critic clearly has no business trafficking in. The token pick implies a much broader knowledge than actually exists. The token pick will almost always be laughed at by specialists in whatever genre, even if they too enjoy the product.

09 The Anonymous
It's here that the critic really shoves around his "heard it all" weight. Seemingly at random, a critic will pluck something from the abyss and declare it overlooked, then smugly sit back and admire his handiwork.

10 The Catch-All
Undoubtedly the preceding nine choices will omit some movement that the critic would be embarrassed to completely ignore, even if he did so during the previous year. To counteract that, the critic then arbitrarily chooses something that suggests that there could be 20 more items on the list that would be equally impressive and well-considered.

jaymc, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

from the land of dad-rock (it's ok, i'm a certified dad), and as a longtime eye-roller at fanboys making a case for whatever boring album paul westerberg releases in a given year, lemme just say that i think the album paul westerberg released this year (49:00) is actually his most fun thing since forever -- in a way that all the grandpaboy stuff i think was supposed to be but never really hit for me. yes i like the gimmick, but i also like listening to it.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

(and i don't expect to see it on any of these polls, so i probably should have posted that on the other year-end thread, but whatever. i'm easily confused.)

tipsy mothra, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

i really wanted to hear that Westerberg album but by the time I got around to getting it off Amazon it'd already been taken down.

dumb pseud (some dude), Monday, 1 December 2008 18:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Go listen to it on Rhapsody like i did

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 December 2008 18:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

And shut it off after five songs like I did.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 December 2008 18:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Then google pictures of Katy Perry until lunchtime like I did.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 December 2008 18:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

well it's not great or anything. it just has a lot of nice tunes, and i like the shaggy wtf-ness of it all. i got several times my 49 cents' worth out of it.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

done and done, at least on the last part (xpost)

dumb pseud (some dude), Monday, 1 December 2008 18:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

you all find katy perry attractive?!

lex pretend, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's a guilty would blap, but a would blap nonetheless.

dumb pseud (some dude), Monday, 1 December 2008 18:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

she has goggly eyes and in every photo contorts her face into a try-hard pout like the most attention-seeking 8-year-old only child you've ever met.

lex pretend, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

i like the complete absence of Chinese Democracy on these lists.

abanana, Monday, 1 December 2008 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

katy perry is basically kendley from project runway.

Gukbe, Monday, 1 December 2008 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

also at the top of my guilty would blap list

dumb pseud (some dude), Monday, 1 December 2008 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

katy perry is the toyota to zooey deschanel's mercedes

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 December 2008 20:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

BUT KATY PERRY IS BI-CURIOUS SO YOU COULD PROBABLY GET HER IN A THREESOME RIGHT

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 December 2008 20:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

nah, Zooey's less hot and her music's even worse.

dumb pseud (some dude), Monday, 1 December 2008 20:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was going to make a "poor woman's Zooey Deschanel" comment, actually.

jaymc, Monday, 1 December 2008 20:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's encouraging to see a mention of Andrew Coltrane here!

also, new Prurient on Cold Spring is very very good. Might surpass And, Still Wanting. Cocaine Death is extremely good too...so good..man..but it's a compilation really

rizzx, Monday, 1 December 2008 20:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

both very boinkable xp

k3vin k., Monday, 1 December 2008 20:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

not so much about polls, but back on the avant- digression, i'm surprised not to see lucky dragons anywhere.

pshrbrn, Monday, 1 December 2008 21:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks for posting these everyone. The next ones to usually come are:

Clash Magazine
Drowned In Sound
Muzzle Of Bees
Gorilla Vs. Bear
Fact Magazine
NME

― Fastnbulbous, Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:49 PM (2 days ago)

GvB's list is up. can't tell if he's going for "20 best albums" or "20 best debut records by up-and-coming indie artists BONUS POINTS IF YR LOCAL."
predictably, it's terrible.

k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 December 2008 05:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Any modern classical lists out there?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 10:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

both very boinkable xp

― k3vin k., Monday, December 1, 2008 8:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

dont say this fyi

BIG WORLD HOOS. WEBSTEEN. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Keep it to the Katy Perry "blap or no blap" thread, guyz.

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 11:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

i hope you're not suggesting we invite Kevin Keller to 77

dumb pseud (some dude), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 13:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Like the guy who's sockpuppeting as him isn't already a 77 regular?

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

will plucky The Verve triumph in the Rocktimists poll?

GSOHSHIT (blueski), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Talking about whether or not we want to have sex with Katy Perry is frankly much more interesting than talking about where the Black Kids are going to place in the Top 50 of some minor style magazine that nobody reads.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think ilxor is a better sock btw

deej, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 14:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

You talkin' to me?

ilxor, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 04:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Talking about whether or not we want to have sex with Katy Perry is frankly much more interesting than talking about where the Black Kids are going to place in the Top 50 of some minor style magazine that nobody reads.

I mainly use the lists to find music I may have overlooked. The good ones don't start coming for another week or two, so until then:

Favorite Albums You Haven't Seen In The Critics' Polls 08

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 05:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fact Magazine - Top 20
http://tinyurl.com/69ffhp

State Magazine - State’s 25 best albums of 2008
http://www.state.ie/blog/states-25-best-albums-of-2008/
Ireland's answer to Pitchfork magazine

djmartian, Wednesday, 3 December 2008 23:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Last.fm lists their db top 10 listened to artists, albums and songs from 2008:

http://www.last.fm/bestof/2008

Their top 10 songs feature is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Should have added a rule not to repeat song from same artists.(Just so you don't waste your time there's 6 coldplay songs, 3 MGMT and Kate Perry)

Moka, Thursday, 4 December 2008 06:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Seems like the Last.fm lists would favor albums and songs that were released early in the year, thus having had longer to rack up plays.

ilxor, Thursday, 4 December 2008 07:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

One unusual entry in Fact's list:

03. ZOMBY – WHERE WERE U IN 92? (WERK DISCS)

Anyone heard it?

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Haven't heard it but I noticed the eMusic bloggers were talking about it yesterday too.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Heard it. Needs less airhorn.

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

when do we usually do our polls around here?

deviants w. deliriants (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

usually late at night, when there's noone else in the apartment.

Dumb Assantino (some dude), Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's nice to see Opeth placing so high on the metal lists, but I'm curious - do people really rate it higher than "Ghost Reveries" - because I don't remember that one doing as well on the year-end lists, even though to me, it's a much stronger album? Is it that the rest of the field is weaker this year, or is it maybe a case of atoning for overlooking a sleeper by overrating the follow-up?

o. nate, Thursday, 4 December 2008 19:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

musicOMH Top 50
http://www.musicomh.com/music/features/2008_best-albums-of-intro_1208.htm

Some interesting entries:
48 Thomas Tantrum (Sindy Stroker)
40 Blood Red Shoes - Box Of Secrets (V2)
31 Mystery Jets - Twenty One (sixsevennine)
23 Ladyhawke (Island)
18 Amanda Palmer - Who Killed Amanda Palmer? (Roadrunner)
15 Johnny Flynn - A Larum (Vertigo)

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 4 December 2008 23:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Elbow topped musicOMH's poll. It's easy to admire that album but hard to get excited about it enough to crack my top 20. And this album also mad an appearance in State's top 20. I'll have to check it out:

08 Laura Marling - Alas I Cannot Swim (Virgin)

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 5 December 2008 18:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.afropop.org/multi/feature/ID/855/STOCKING%20STUFFERS:%20Afropop%20Worldwides%20Top%20Ten%20Releases%20for%202008

afropop.org (Banning Eyre & others)

Chiwoniso, "Rebel Woman" (Cumbancha) (Zimbabwe)
Aterciopelados “Rio” (Nacional) (Columbia)
Toumani Diabaté “The Mandé Variations” (Nonesuch) (Mali)
Seprewa Kasa “Seprewa Kasa” (Riverboat) (Ghana)
Seun Kuti “Seun Kuti & Egypt 80” (Disorient) (Nigeria)
Emmanuel Jal “WARchild” (Sonic360) (Sudan)
Orchestra Baobab “Made in Dakar” (Nonesuch) (Senegal)
Mayra Andrade “Navega” (Nacional/Sterns Arc Ltd) (Cape Verde)
Buena Vista Social Club "Buena Vista Social Club At Carnegie Hall(2 CD) [LIVE] " (Nonesuch) (Cuba)
Kasai Allstars "Congotronics 3" (Crammed Discs) (Congo

curmudgeon, Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Theres a Congotronics 3? I must be on that right na na na

Animal Collector (The Reverend), Sunday, 7 December 2008 19:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Predictably terrible EoY list from OMM now in.

Why do I keep thinking of Stan Freberg's "Old Payola Roll Blues"?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 8 December 2008 15:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Might as well plug the one I put together: http://idolator.com/5103876/80-08-and-heartbreak-announcing-idolators-year+end-extravaganza

Matos W.K., Monday, 8 December 2008 15:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

link does not work matos...can't access from idolators front page either :(

k3vin k., Monday, 8 December 2008 15:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Resident Advisor's Top 20 labels: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=994

Matos W.K., Monday, 8 December 2008 15:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

dear Time, please research concept of 'at a glance'

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2008 15:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

re: Time's Vampire Weekend paragraph

Peter Gabriel would be proud.

No he wouldn't.

Paul Simon would be prouder.

Yes he would. That's what's known as "damning with faint praise."

Sara Sara Sara, Monday, 8 December 2008 15:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

PopMatters Top 50 singles (kind of dire).

jaymc, Monday, 8 December 2008 21:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Time's list is quite ILXy.

M.V., Monday, 8 December 2008 22:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

no point ILM doing a list then

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

how did Trentemøller become the go-to token techno act?

Popper, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jim DeRogatis

1. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, "Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!" (Anti-)
2. David Byrne and Brian Eno, "Everything That Happens Will Happen Today"
3. Vivian Girls, "The Vivian Girls" (In the Red)
4. The Knux, "Remind Me in 3 Days" (Interscope)
5. Brazilian Girls, "New York City" (Verve)
6. Local H, "12 Angry Months" (Shout Factory)
7. Saul Williams, "The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of NiggyTardust!" (niggytardust.com/Fader)
8. Fleet Foxes, "Fleet Foxes" (Sub Pop)
9. Kanye West, "808s & Heartbreak" (Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam)
10. Erykah Badu, "New AmErykah, Pt. 1: 4th World War" (Motown)

http://blogs.suntimes.com/derogatis/2008/12/the_best_albums_of_2008.html

Andrew Sandwich, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Derogatis's next 40:

11. TV on the Radio, "Dear Science" (DGC/Interscope)

12. Parts & Labor, "Receivers" (Jagjaguwar)

13. Jenny Lewis, "Acid Tongue" (Warner Bros.)

14. Spiritualized "Songs in A&E" (Fontana)

15. Sigur Ros, "Med sud i eyrum vid spilum endalaust" (XL)

16. The Black Angels, "Directions to See a Ghost" (Light in the Attic)

17. Girl Talk, "Feed the Animals" (Illegal Art)

18. Gnarls Barkley, "The Odd Couple" (Atlantic)

19. Weezer, "Weezer" (Geffen)

20. Lou Reed, "Berlin: Live at St. Ann's Warehouse" (Matador)

21. Portishead, "Third" (Mercury)

22. Q-Tip, "The Renaissance" (Universal/Motown)

23. Rise Against, "Appeal to Reason" (DGC/Interscope)

24. Flight of the Conchords, "Flight of the Conchords" (Sub Pop)

25. Ladytron, "Velocifero" (Nettwerk)

26. Bob Dylan, "Tell Tale Signs: Rare and Unreleased, 1989-2006" (Columbia)

27. Moby, "Last Night" (Mute/EMI)

28. Lykke Li, "Youth Novels" (Atlantic)

29. The Gutter Twins, "Saturnalia" (Sub Pop)

30. Wire, "Object 47" (Pink Flag)

31. Randy Newman, "Harps and Angels" (Nonesuch)

32. Sons and Daughters, "This Gift" (Domino)

33. Death Cab for Cutie, "Narrow Stairs" (Atlantic)

34. Beck, "Modern Guilt" (Interscope)

35. Tim Fite, "Fair Ain't Fair" (Anti-)

36. Deerhunter, "Microcastle" (Kranky)

37. Shot Baker, "Take Control" (Riot Fest)

38. Tokyo Police Club, "Elephant Shell" (Saddle Creek)

39. Nine Inch Nails, "The Slip" (nin.com)

40. Alejandro Escovedo, "Real Animal" (Back Porch)

41. Sia, "Some People Have Real Problems" (Hear Music)

42. Joan as Police Woman, "To Survive" (Cheap Lullaby)

43. Darker My Love, "2" (Dangerbird)

44. AC/DC, "Black Ice" (Columbia)

45. King Khan and the Shrines, "The Supreme Genius of King Khan" (Vice)

46. Disfear, "Live the Storm" (Relapse)

47. Super Furry Animals, "Hey Venus!" (Rough Trade)

48. Black Mountain, "In the Future" (Jagjaguwar)

49. Amy Ray, "Didn't It Feel Kinder" (Daemon)

50. Madonna, "Hard Candy" (Warner Bros.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

how did Trentemøller become the go-to token techno act?

Not sure what this comment is in reference to, but Trentemøller is one of the few artists that made Cologne/Berlin minimal sounds accessable to listeners not steeped in a decade of house/progressive trance. I think well selected compilation drawn from his 2003-2006 remix work would be my album of the decade.

derelict, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised his Top 10 isn't alphabetical--it usually is.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost; I was referring to DeRo

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

That said (kindly forgive the missing article above), "Miss You", which I think is the track in question in the PopMatters poll, came out in 2006.

derelict, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 02:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

ugh shut up dero

k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 December 2008 04:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

^

the VG blurb on his blog made me want to vomit.

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 04:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

offering the perfect antidote to the Miley Cyrus/"Juno" bizarro world of young femininity so often seen in the media

lolz

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Time's list is quite ILXy.

ILM <3's Jonas Bros

billstevejim, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 05:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

AU Magazine (www.iheartau.com - Belfast, Northern Ireland)

50. Eine Kleine Nacht Musik - Eine Kleine Nacht Musik (Modular)
49. No Age – Nouns (Sub Pop)
48. Midnight Juggernauts – Dystopia (Charisma)
47. Ladytron – Velocifero (Nettwerk)
46. Fucked Up – The Chemistry Of Modern Life (Matador)
45. Death Cab For Cutie – Narrow Stairs (Atlantic)
44. Late Of The Pier – Fantasy Black Channel (Zarcorp)
43. Adebisi Shank – This Is The Album Of A Band Called Adebisi Shank (The Richter Collective)
42. British Sea Power – Do You Like Rock Music? (Rough Trade)
41. Fuck Buttons – Street Horrrsing (Atp)
40. Crystal Castles – Crystal Castles (Lies)
39. Portishead – Third (Mercury)
38. Vampire Weekend – Vampire Weekend (XL)
37. Santogold – Santogold (Atlantic)
36. Fight Like Apes – Fight Like Apes And The Mystery Of The Golden Medallion (Model Citizen)
35. Lightspeed Champion – Falling Off The Lavender Bridge (Domino)
34. Oppenheimer – Take The Whole Midrange And Boost It (Fantastic Plastic)
33. Born Ruffians – Red, Yellow And Blue (Warp)
32. Wolf Parade – At Mount Zoomer (Sub Pop)
31. Cadence Weapon – Afterparty Babies (Big Dada)
30. V/A - Carling Supports: The Oh Yeah Sessions ‘08
29. Beck – Modern Guilt (XL)
28. 2562 – Aerial (Tectonic)
27. Pacific! – Reveries (Half Machine)
26. Los Campesinos! – Hold On, Now Youngster (Wichita)
25. MGMT – Oracular Spectacular (Columbia)
24. Jamie Lidell – Jim (Warp)
23. Jape – Ritual (Cooperative)
22. The Presets – Apocalypso (Universal)
21. Neon Neon – Stainless Style (Lex)
20. Hot Chip – Made In The Dark (EMI)
19. My Morning Jacket – Evil Urges (Rough Trade)
18. Deerhunter – Microcastle (4AD)
17. Of Montreal – Skeletal Lamping (Polyvinyl)
16. Bonnie “Prince” Billy – Lie Down In The Light (Domino)
15. Spiritualized – Songs In A&E (Universal)
14. Foals – Antidotes (Transgressive)
13. Nick Cave – Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!! (Mute)
12. Hercules And Love Affair – Hercules And Love Affair (DFA)
11. David Holmes – The Holy Pictures (Canderblinks/Mercury/UMC)
10. Glasvegas – Glasvegas (Columbia)
9. Why? – Alopecia (Tomlab)
8. Elbow – The Seldom Seen Kid (Polydor)
7. The Dodos – Visiter (Wichita)
6. Cut Copy – In Ghost Colours (Modular)
5. Friendly Fires – Friendly Fires (XL)
4. Fleet Foxes – Fleet Foxes (Bella Union)
3. Frightened Rabbit – Midnight Organ Fight (Fatcat)
2. Bon Iver – For Emma, Forever Ago (4AD)
1. TV On The Radio – Dear Science (4AD)

Chris in Belfast, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

listened to half of the Bon Iver yesterday - big. fucking. whoop. how can anyone be excited enough by this sort of thing to put it at the top of lists?

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 17:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah I am really blown away at the acclaim that album is getting. I couldn't really get through half of it.

vampire baseball (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well Number 50 - 2008 NME album of the year - Heartbreak - Lies

http://www.nme.com/images/218_albumsofyear.jpg

1 down, 49 to go

djmartian, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 17:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

are they doing one a week?

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 17:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

From The Sunday Times, Stewart Lee's "left-field" top ten:

1 One More Grain: Isle of Grain (White Heat) Daniel Patrick Quinn’s bored northern bingo-caller vocals drizzle bird’s-eye views of broken Britain over krautrock rhythms, incongruous jazz-fusion trumpet and post-punk guitar scree.

2 Matana Roberts: The Chicago Project (Central Control International) Matana Roberts blows ecstatic saxophone as hard as Albert Ayler, but carries tunes soulful enough to sell experimental jazz noise to sceptics.

3 Helena Espvall and Masaki Batoh: Helena Espvall and Masaki Batoh (Drag City) Espvall’s droning cello meets Batoh’s acid-blues guitar in a pervasive fog of Swedish folk and Japanese psychedelia.

4 John Edwards: Volume (PSI) John Edwards traverses the neck of his double bass in fearless free-jazz improvisations, using silence, space, sudden motions and sustained undulations.

5 Dick Gaughan: Gaughan Live! at the Trades Club (Greentrax) The Scottish folk singer and guitarist distils four decades of passion into a timeless selection, alternating a lightness of touch with smouldering, righteous fury.

6 Robert Forster: The Evangelist (Tag) The fearsomely fey former Go-Between’s first release since the death of his long-term songwriting partner, Grant McLennan, typifies his apparently effortless talent, with drawled poetry and low-slung guitars.

7 Martin Hayes/Dennis Cahill: Welcome Here Again (Green Linnet) Hayes rescues the fiddle tunes of his native Co Clare from clichéd arrangements and off-the-peg sentimentality, imbuing them with vast emotional depths and moments of considered stillness.

8 The Advisory Circle: Other Channels (Ghost Box) The electronica of 1970s public-information films and weird children’s TV conjures a forgotten suburban nightmare of prescription tranquillisers, coffee mornings, treacherous ponds and imminent nuclear war.

9 NICK PYNN Afterplanesman (Roundhill) Pynn gave his micro-suite of miniature art-folk curios a push this year. Sampled vocals and self-made instruments range across cultural, geographical and temporal boundaries to delightful effect.

10 WILD BILLY CHILDISH AND THE MUSICIANS OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE Thatcher’s Children (Damaged Goods) Chatham’s venerable garage-rock fundamentalists cock a 1976-style snook at Noughties values and continue to summon instant punk classics from the Thames estuary at will.

Other Sunday Times lists, featuring all the same albums as on everyone elses lists, here.

DavidM, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Adebisi Shank - This Is The Album (Richter Collective)

Funny how Battles did so well in lists last year, whereas Adebisi Shank is barely a blip. Adebisi Shank reminds me a bit of Battles, but I like AS better.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 18:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

quietus do their thing :

30: Beach House - Devotion
29: Neon Neon - Stainless Style
28: Times New Viking - Rip It Off
27: No Age - Nouns
26: Grace Jones - Hurricane
25: Squarepusher - Just A Souvenir
24: Burial Hex - Initiations
23: Aidan John Moffat - I Can Hear Your Heart
22: Lindstrom - Where You Go I Go Too
21: Wire - Object 47
20: Amadou and Miriam - Welcome To Mali
19: Rolo Tomassi - Hysterics
18: Simon Bookish - Everything/Everything
17: Of Montreal - Skeletal Lamping
16: Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
15: These New Puritans - Beat Pyramid
14. Fuck Buttons - Street Horsssing
13. UFOmammut - Idolum
12. Deerhunter - Microcastle/Weird Era Cont.
11. Glasvegas - Glasvegas
10. Nadja - Skin Turns To Glass
9. One More Grain - Isle Of Grain
8. Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules and Love Affair
7. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!
6. Wild Beasts - Limbo Panto
5. SunnO))) - Domkirke
4. British Sea Power - Do You Like Rock Music?
3. The Fall - Imperial Wax Solvent
2. Portishead - Third
1. The Bug - London Zoo

mark e, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey these lists are getting better! esp that stewart lee one

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 21:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't know what quietus is but i should obviously find out

HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

k so now i have to hear this one more grain business

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Unless I've missed it, I'm surprised to not see El Guincho on any of these lists considering how much buzz that album was gathering earlier this year.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ah, apparently it was originally out last year.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://thequietus.com -- which I very very sporadically write for (because I'm often swamped with other stuff!)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

waitwaitwait -- DeRo liked a Madonna album enough to place it on a year-end list??

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

get that denim jacket out, the most retro-trad-rockist best albums of 2008 list from classic rock magazine, have a laugh at some of these picks

http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/929916

Classic Rock magazine EOY albums

50. The Black Keys - Attack & Release
49. Todd Rundgren - Arena
48. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - "Dig Lazarus, Dig!!"
47. Thunder - Bang!
46. Tesla - Forever More
45. Viking Skull - Doom, Gloom, Heartache & Whiskey
44. The Jim Jones Revue - s/t
43. Girlschool - Legacy
42. Stonerider - Three Legs Of Trouble
41. Black Tide - Light From Above
40. Diagonal - s/t
39. Dirty Penny - Take It Sleezy
38. Glenn Hughes - First Underground Nuclear Kitchen
37. Bob Dylan - Tell Tale Signs
36. Graveyard - s/t
35. Lethargy - Purification
34. Testament - The Formation Of Damnation
33. Blood Ceremony - s/t
32. The Mars Volta - The Bedlam In Goliath
31. The Hold Steady - Stay Positive
30. Kings Of Leon - 0nly By The Night
29. Rose Kemp - Unholy Majesty
28. The Clash - Live At Shea Stadium
27. Joe Bonamassa - Live From Nowhere In Particular
26. Endeverafter - Kiss Or Kill
25. Uriah Heep - Wake The Sleeper
24. Rose Hill Drive - Moon Is The New Earth
23. Drive-By Truckers - Brighter Than Creation's Dark
22. Queen & Paul Rogers - The Cosmos Rocks
21. Thin Lizzy - UK Tour 1975
20. Judas Priest - Nostradamus
19. Marillion - Happiness Is The Road
18. Pride Tiger - The Lucky Ones
17. Alice Cooper - Along Came A Spider
16. Motorhead - Motorizer
15. Black Crowes - Warpaint
14. Stone Gods - Silver Spoons & Broken Bones
13. The Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound
12. The Raconteurs - Consolers Of The Lonely
11. Opeth - Watershed
10. Motley Crue - Saints Of Los Angeles
9. Journey - Revelation
8. Big Linda - I Loved You
7. Whitesnake - Good To Be Bad
6. Def Leppard - Songs From The Sparkle Lounge
5. Airbourne - Runnin' Wild
4. Black Stone Cherry - Folklore & Superstition
3. Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy
2. Metallica - Death Magnetic
1. AC/DC - Black Ice

djmartian, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

lololololol @ the top 10

k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

well done airbourne

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol@ the whole list

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Are these lot really still going: Whitesnake, Uriah Heep, Journey.

Girlschool - the last time i heard from these lot I was still in primary school circa 1981.

djmartian, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

too bad you're not a girl

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Stuff I like from that list: Viking Skull, Graveyard, Testament, Blood Ceremony, Motorhead, Opeth, Airbourne, Metallica. GnR and AC/DC are okay. Honestly kind of surprised to see that Graveyard caught their attention. Great record.

Gorgoroth? I hardly knew her! (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

blueski, you were still munching on farley's rusks in 1981

Motorhead & Girlschool - Please don't touch

djmartian, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Girlschool album this year was really good! But I can't believe they missed Rose Tattoo, Rick Springfield, Hirax, Night Ranger, Ted Nugent's live album, lots of other things (all better than their top 5, as far as I'm concerned. I never heard the Def Leppard!)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost

J3FF that graveyard band is fucking AWESOME! good stuff. at least some good came out of this thread.

btw i find the classic rock list like 8 zillion times more interesting and charming than most of the lists on this thread, i'd rather read kooky and eccentric lists like that than all the other year end garbage.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, me too; only complained about that list because I basically *like* it. (Agree about Graveyard, too -- I was actually loving that album way back in '07, as an import on Transubstans.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

xp Also, meant they missed the boat on HELIX, not Hirax. (Though Hirax got a good review in Decibel, I think.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

Classic Rock list is pretty much "Hell, you boys could have a pretty good weekend in Vergas with that stuff!"

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Any sign of NME's 08 rundown?

davek_00, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can make out that it says "No Kooks, Kaiser Chiefs or Razorlight" and 7 of the top 10 are debuts. Which would suggest Santogold, Glasvegas, MGMT, Foals, Late of The Pier, Fleet Foxes and Vampire Weekend joining Kings of Leon, TV on The Radio and Elbow in the top 10.

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

NME going for what a great year for new bands angle then?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

That Classic Rock list is kind of beautiful. They know what they like, and do not sheepishly shoehorn in token albums from other genres to feign diversity.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 02:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

^very very otm, even if i disagree with what's good and what's bad

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 02:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Opeth is the only real head scratcher, in terms of consistency.

Gorgoroth? I hardly knew her! (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 02:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

They know what they like, and do not sheepishly shoehorn in token albums from other genres to feign diversity.

That's true. You can't really win either way. Too honest and a lot of mags would appear to be typical corny indie but, at the same time, it's very easy to know - especially at this point - when a magazine or person is trying to pretend they also spent a separate but equal amount of time listening to rap, country, meta, etc.

What's funny is that atypical genres will usually make someone's list eventually, but it's more likely authentic when you're years removed when it all came out and the person's had time to discover and let time filter out the pretenders.

Cunga, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 07:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

NME Albums

1 MGMT Oracular Spectacular
2 TV on the Radio Dear Science
3 Glasvegas Glasvegas
4 Vampire Weekend Vampire Weekend
5 Foals Antidotes
6 Metronomy Nights Out
7 Santogold Santogold
8 Mystery Jets Twenty One
9 Kings of Leon Only by the Night
10 Friendly Fires Friendly Fires
11 Neon Neon Stainless Style
12 Crystal Castles Crystal Castles
13 Fleet Foxes Fleet Foxes
14 Marling, Laura Alas, I Cannot Swim
15 Last Shadow Puppets The Age of Understatement
16 Ladyhawke Ladyhawke
17 Elbow The Seldom Seen Kid
18 Late Of The Pier Fantasy Black Channel
19 Fucked Up The Chemistry of Common Life
20 Spiritualized Songs in A and E
21 Lightspeed Champion Falling Off The Lavender Bridge
22 Oasis Dig Out Your Soul
23 Johansson, Scarlett Anywhere I Lay My Head
24 Bon Iver For Emma, Forever Ago
25 Portishead Third
26 Verve, The Forth
27 Hercules and Love Affair Hercules and Love Affair
28 British Sea Power Do You Like Rock Music?
29 Cave & the Bad Seeds, Nick Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!
30 Hot Chip Made in the Dark
31 Coldplay Viva La Vida
32 Mogwai The Hawk Is howling
33 Deerhunter Microcastle / Weird Era Cont.
34 Los Campesinos! We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed
35 Mccombs, Cass Dropping The Writ
36 Frightened Rabbit The Midnight Organ Fight
37 Primal Scream Beautiful Future
38 Beck Modern Guilt
39 Chairlift Does You Inspire You
40 Kills, The Midnight Boom
41 These New Puritans Beat Pyramis
42 Alpinisms School of Seven Bells
43 Black Kids Partie Traumatic
44 Li, Lykke Youth Novels
45 Black Keys, The Attack & Release
46 Blood Red Shoes Box Of Secrets
47 Gaslight Anthem, The The '59 Sound
48 Maria, Ida Fortress Round My Heart
49 Bloc Party Intimacy
50 Heartbreak Lies

Tracks on the way

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 08:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

In the 34 years that they've been doing it this is arguably the worst NME EoY list I've ever seen.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

21 Lightspeed Champion Falling Off The Lavender Bridge

haha i remember this guy

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw u might be right marcello

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hope you like MGMT guys.

1 MGMT Kids
2 Glasvegas Geraldine
3 Mystery Jets Two Doors Down
4 MGMT Time To Pretend
5 MGMT Electric Feel
6 Metronomy Heartbreaker
7 Friendly Fires Paris Is Burning
8 MIA Paper Planes
9 Kings of Leon Sex On Fire
10 Vampire Weekend A-Punk
11 The Verve Love Is Noise
12 Hot Chip Ready For The Floor
13 Elbow One Day Like This
14 Florence and The Machine Kiss With A Fist
15 Ladyhawke Paris Is Burning
16 Oasis The Shock of The Lightning
17 Spiritualized Soul on Fire
18 Hercules and Love Affair Blind
19 Oasis I'm Out of Time
20 Chairlift Bruises
21 TV on the Radio Golden Age
22 The Last Shadow Puppets Standing Next To Me
23 Fucked Up Year of The Pig
24 Santagold LES Artistes
25 Mystery Jets Young Love
26 Amazing Baby Head Dress
27 The Last Shadow Puppets The Age of The Understatement
28 Elbow Grounds For Divorce
29 DJ Mujava Township Funk
30 Florence and The Machine Dog Days Are Over
31 Laura Marling Ghosts
32 Black Kids I'm Not Gonna Teach Your Boyfriend How To Dance With You
33 Vampire Weekend Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa
34 Late Of The Pier Space An The Woods
35 Ladyhawke Back of The Van
36 Little Boots Stuck on Repeat
37 Wiley Wearing My Rolex
38 Sam Sparro Black & Gold
39 Vampire Weekend Oxford Comma
40 Heartbreak We're Back
41 Dizzee Rascal Dance Wiv Me
42 Late Of The Pier Focker
43 Glasvegas It's My Own Cheating Heart That Makes ME Cry
44 Crystal Castles Courtship Dating
45 Crystal Castles Crimewave
46 Mogwai Batcat
47 Portishead Machine Gun
48 Cave & the Bad Seeds, Nick Dig!! Lazarus, Dig!!!
49 Glasvegas Flowers and Football Tops
50 Maria, Ida Oh My God

As per usual any good choices spoilt by the ridiculous

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

jesus fucking christ

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

50 Maria, Ida Oh My God

^^ida maria otm

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

7 Friendly Fires Paris Is Burning

no such song exists

i do dig that florence & the machine track, had no idea it was some sort of popular thing

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

The whiter than white NME EoY lists with token Rolex and Dizzee/Calvin input.

It is, seriously, a disgrace.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Should be Paris, blame Excel for thinking ahead.

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

why is this surprising? i can't remember nme being ever being legit, but they probably were there in the 80s for a bit

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

ooooh rhyming!

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

fresh

thereminimum chips (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

That NME list is hilarious. No one can claim they aren't on-brand I suppose.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

26 Amazing Baby Head Dress

Which bit of this is the band name and which bit is the song title?

29 DJ Mujava Township Funk

Any idea what this is? I am assuming 'fake baile funk remix of Nirvana'.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Not quite - DJ Mujava's MySpace page is here. And the video for "Township Funk" can be found here.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Amazing Baby is the group, "Head Dress" is the song and they are here.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

matt u have almost certainly heard 'township funk' - it has been EVERYWHERE this year

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's ok, much better when u hear it in clubs, at home it's a bit duhn duhn duhn though

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

That Classic Rock list is kind of beautiful. They know what they like, and do not sheepishly shoehorn in token albums from other genres to feign diversity.

agree w/this!! worst thing about so many indie lists is the tiny nod they give to other genres, as if they're somehow claiming to represent the entirety of popular music just cuz they have one hip-hop writer (to 20 indie writers obv)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

actually i'm listening to 'township funk' again and i was wrong, it is a bit of a monster at home as well. the ashley beedle mix is even better!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 10:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

agree w/this!! worst thing about so many indie lists is the tiny nod they give to other genres, as if they're somehow claiming to represent the entirety of popular music just cuz they have one hip-hop writer (to 20 indie writers obv)

yes. it's disgusting. how dare they like things from outside their assigned genre?

m the g, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 11:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wilful misunderstanding of a point, classic internet flourish there

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 12:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

I understand the point, but dispute its validity.

m the g, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 12:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Classic Rock list is by and large an excellent specialist genre list obviously compiled by experts who know their stuff and love it.

But still, Dig Lazarus Dig! WHY???

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 12:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I knew MGMT was gonna sweep the middlebrow contingent.

I do like them but.

Tim F, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 12:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

are the NME lists staff-picked or reader-votes? really can't tell anymore

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Staff

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

WIRE top ten:

10. Caretaker - Persstant Repetition
9. The Fall - Imperial Wax Solvent
8. William S Burroughs - Real English Tea
7. Evangelista - Hello Voyager
6. Advisory Circle - Other Channels
5. Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna
4. John Butcher - Resonant Spaces
3. The Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace
2. Philip Jeck - Sand
1. The Bug - London Zoo

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Have the fifty in front of me - Luomo at 18, Tricky(!) at 26 and Portishead at 38 amongst other things.

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

post it!

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Do a poll!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah right, I'm not typing all that lot in.

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

You did 10.

Do 40 more. I'll paypal you a dollar.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

take a picture i'll last longer

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Err, yuck.

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

suggestion, list them in blocks of ten

djmartian, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

7. Evangelista - Hello Voyager

^^ nice to finally see this in a mag's top ten

the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

I typed the wire lists out before. But it wasnt in WH Smiths in Hamilton today.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Okay, under duress:

WIRE cont.

20. Stephan Mathieu - Radioland
19. Bill Dixon - 17 Musicians...
18. Luomo - Convivial
17. Dusk + Blackdown - Margins Music
16. Autechre - Quaristice
15. Kasai Allstars - In the 7th Moon
14. Eric Chenaux - Sloppy Ground
13. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Dig thingy
12. Ryoji Ikeda - Test Pattern
11. Kevin Drumm - Imperial Distortion

That's 20 cents pal.

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

how do we know you're not making this up?

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dig Thingy = much better title

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost Yeah, like "Kasai Allstars" is even a thing.

Manchego Bay (G00blar), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

WIRE pt III

30. Terry Riley - The Last Camel in Paris
29. Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
28. Scorces - I Turn Into You
27. Arther Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me
26. Tricky - Knowle West Boy
25. Robert Ashley - Concrete
24. Jandek - Glasgow Sunday 2005
23. Group Inerane - Guitars From Agadez
22. Hercules & Love Affair - s/t
21. Lukas Ligeti - Afrikan Machinery

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

23. Group Inerane - Guitars From Agadez

I wanna hear this!

28. Scorces - I Turn Into You

David Keenan's wife band LOL

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'd like to see one list that just ignores all artists who've been around 15 years or more. yeah that's facile but a little 'yeah yeah they've still got it but there's too much new decent stuff to bother much with them right now' statement wouldn't go amiss

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

WIRE 40-31

40. Jakob Ullmann - Voice, Books and Fire 3
39. Toumani Diabate - Mande Variations
38. Portishead - Third
37. Maryanne Amacher - Sound Characters 2
36. Emeralds - Solar Bridge
35. Vampire Weekend - s/t
34. Harvey Milk - Life...
33. Stereo Image - s/t
32. Christina Carter - Masque Femine
31. Malcolm Goldstein - A Sounding of Sources

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

WIRE last bit

50. Sao Paulo Underground - Long ass album title
49. Ellen Fullman and Monique Buzzarte - Fluctuations
48. Sic Alps - US EZ
47. Mark Stewart - Edit
46. Alva Noto - Unitxt
45. Peter Rehberg - Works for GV
44. Josephine Foster - This Coming Gladness
43. Murcof - Versailles Sessions
42. Vajra - Live
41. Dave Grubbs - An Optimist Notes the Dust

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't know why I typed 'em backwards either.

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

now for the genre lists!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

backwards made it easier to do this

The Wire

50. Sao Paulo Underground - Long ass album title
49. Ellen Fullman and Monique Buzzarte - Fluctuations
48. Sic Alps - US EZ
47. Mark Stewart - Edit
46. Alva Noto - Unitxt
45. Peter Rehberg - Works for GV
44. Josephine Foster - This Coming Gladness
43. Murcof - Versailles Sessions
42. Vajra - Live
41. Dave Grubbs - An Optimist Notes the Dust
40. Jakob Ullmann - Voice, Books and Fire 3
39. Toumani Diabate - Mande Variations
38. Portishead - Third
37. Maryanne Amacher - Sound Characters 2
36. Emeralds - Solar Bridge
35. Vampire Weekend - s/t
34. Harvey Milk - Life...
33. Stereo Image - s/t
32. Christina Carter - Masque Femine
31. Malcolm Goldstein - A Sounding of Sources
30. Terry Riley - The Last Camel in Paris
29. Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
28. Scorces - I Turn Into You
27. Arther Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me
26. Tricky - Knowle West Boy
25. Robert Ashley - Concrete
24. Jandek - Glasgow Sunday 2005
23. Group Inerane - Guitars From Agadez
22. Hercules & Love Affair - s/t
21. Lukas Ligeti - Afrikan Machinery
20. Stephan Mathieu - Radioland
19. Bill Dixon - 17 Musicians...
18. Luomo - Convivial
17. Dusk + Blackdown - Margins Music
16. Autechre - Quaristice
15. Kasai Allstars - In the 7th Moon
14. Eric Chenaux - Sloppy Ground
13. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Dig thingy
12. Ryoji Ikeda - Test Pattern
11. Kevin Drumm - Imperial Distortion
10. Caretaker - Persstant Repetition
9. The Fall - Imperial Wax Solvent
8. William S Burroughs - Real English Tea
7. Evangelista - Hello Voyager
6. Advisory Circle - Other Channels
5. Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna
4. John Butcher - Resonant Spaces
3. The Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace
2. Philip Jeck - Sand
1. The Bug - London Zoo

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's 12 genres! The page starts at Aufgehoben, ends at Robert Wyatt, lots of stuff in between. x-post

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

When does Marcello's 2008 albums list get published?

djmartian, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

backwards lists = UNACCEPTABLE

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh, I bought London Zoo yesterday! Good, innit?

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

is there an avant rock one? id like to see that. Outer Limits is usually good too.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Avant Rock: AufgehobenBurningStarCoreBirchvilleCatMotelBlackMountainDeadCEatSkullFabDiamondsGrowingHairPolishHospitalsHototogisuReligiousKnivesScorcesAlexTuckerValet

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

agree w/this!! worst thing about so many indie lists is the tiny nod they give to other genres...

I do like the genre magazine lists because they dig deeper than most, though I also appreciate the lists from bloggers and others that are diverse, when it seems that they honestly like and listen to all that stuff.

Thanks for The Wire list NickB.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Other lists show Matmos and Excepter love, go ILX!

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

In defence of the NME, the blurbs for the albums are much longer than the past few years.

Mitchell Stirling, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

AMG Pop (alphabetical)

Erykah Badu - New Amerykah, Pt. 1: 4th World War
Benga - Diary of an Afro Warrior
Black Milk - Tronic
Brian Blade Fellowship - Season of Changes
Anthony Braxton - Beyond Quantum
Lindsey Buckingham - Gift of Screws
Buena Vista Social Club - At Carnegie Hall
Calexico - Carried to Dust
Los Campesinos - Hold on Now, Youngster…
James Carter - Present Tense
Coldplay - Viva la Vida
Elvis Costello & the Imposters - Momofuku
Rodney Crowell - Sex and Gasoline
Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
Deerhoof - Offend Maggie
Deerhunter - Microcastle
Raheem DeVaughn - Love Behind the Melody
Lila Downs - Shake Away/Ojo de Culebra
Duffy - Rockferry
The Fireman - Electric Arguments
Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
The Foreign Exchange - Leave It All Behind
Foxboro Hot Tubs - Stop Drop and Roll!!!
Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree
Grouper - Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill
Juliana Hatfield - How to Walk Away
Hot Chip - Made in the Dark
Jazzanova - Of All the Things
Kelley Polar - I Need You to Hold on While the Sky Is Falling
The Kills - Midnight Boom
B.B. King - One Kind Favor
Solange Knowles - Sol-Angel and the Hadley St. Dreams
Femi Kuti - Day by Day
Leila - Blood, Looms and Blooms
Jenny Lewis - Acid Tongue
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
Shelby Lynne - Just a Little Lovin’
M83 - Saturdays=Youth
Madlib - WLIB AM: King of the Wigflip
MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
Mogwai - The Hawk Is Howling
Ne-Yo - Year of the Gentleman
Willie Nelson/Wynton Marsalis - Two Men with the Blues
The New Year - The New Year
Randy Newman - Harps and Angels
No Age - Nouns
Oasis - Dig Out Your Soul
Osborne - Osborne
Portishead - Third
Q-Tip - The Renaissance
The Raconteurs - Consolers of the Lonely
Steve Reid Ensemble - Daxaar
R.E.M. - Accelerate
Robyn - Robyn (US Bonus Track)
Santogold - Santogold
Stereolab - Chemical Chords
George Strait - Troubadour
Jazmine Sullivan - Fearless
Taylor Swift - Fearless
Times New Viking - Rip It Off
TV on the Radio - Dear Science
Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
Weezer - Weezer (Red Album)
Paul Weller - 22 Dreams

francisF, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Blimey, at long last a list without freaking Dig Lazarus Bastard Dig in it!

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rolling Stone's Top 50 albums: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/24958695/albums_of_the_year/31

I'll type up the singles list shortly (not on website, as far as I can tell)

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

"JOCKSON Browne"????

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Spicoli?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

JOCKSON Browne = after consumption of Tennent's Super

djmartian, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rolling Stone's Top 100 Singles

1. Beyonce, "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)"
2. Santogold, "L.E.S. Artistes"
3. MGMT, "Time to Pretend"
4. Blitzen Trapper, "Furr"
5. Lil Wayne, "Lollipop"
6. Beck, "Gamma Ray"
7. Estelle ft. Kanye West, "American Boy"
8. My Morning Jacket, "I'm Amazed"
9. Coldplay, "Viva La Vida"
10. T.I., "No Matter What"
11. Rihanna, "Disturbia"
12. TV on the Radio, "Golden Age"
13. Ryan Adams & the Cardinals, "Magick"
14. The BPA ft. David Byrne & Dizzee Rascal, "Toe Jam"
15. Al Green, "Lay It Down"
16. Young Jeezy, "My President"
17. The Killers, "Spaceman"
18. Kid Rock, "All Summer Long"
19. Guns N' Roses, "Better"
20. Katy Perry, "I Kissed a Girl"

I'm not sure I'm going to bother with the rest, honestly.

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^AMG: Finally Deerhoof!

nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

The BPA ft. David Byrne & Dizzee Rascal, "Toe Jam"

This is made up, right?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rong.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

terrible song, good video

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'd like to see one list that just ignores all artists who've been around 15 years or more. yeah that's facile but a little 'yeah yeah they've still got it but there's too much new decent stuff to bother much with them right now' statement wouldn't go amiss

― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:11 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

The NME list is made for you then.

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

They still put Spz, Cave, Verve, Primal Scream in tho

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rolling Stone : 12 | Guns n' Roses: Chinese Democracy

They had this ranking all gift-wrapped and ready to go by September, didn't they?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Steve your rule would have knocked Pulp out of the reckoning by the time they released This Is Hardcore.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Wire has plenty of obscure titles as usual. The tricky part is figuring out which ones are any fun. Will investigate Jeck, Hospitals, Butcher, Caretaker, Ikeda, Dusk + Blackdown for starters.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

I remember getting that David'n'Dizzee single and thinking it sucked, but if not for its mention here would have totally forgotten

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

The best music of 2008 by The A.V. Club staff
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/change/the_best_music_of_2008_by_the_a_v__club_staff

djmartian, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Steve your rule would have knocked Pulp out of the reckoning by the time they released This Is Hardcore

different time, different game

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

different goalposts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

in '82 you could kick a jarvis

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can't go on, I'll go on:

21. Vampire Weekend, "One (Blake's Got a New Face)"
22. Jay-Z and T.I., "Swagga Like Us"
23. The Black Keys, "I Got Mine"
24. Lykke Li, "I'm Good, I'm Gone"
25. Leona Lewis, "Bleeding Love"
26. The Rapture, "No Sex for Ben"
27. The Ting Tings, "Shut Up and Let Me Go"
28. Kevin Rudolf ft. Lil Wayne, "Let It Rock"
29. Pink, "So What"
30. Weezer, "Pork and Beans"

31. Conor Oberst, "Moab"
32. N.E.R.D., "Everybody Nose"
33. The Raveonettes, "Ally, Walk with Me"
34. Gnarls Barkley, "Run"
35. Kaiser Chiefs, "Addicted to Drugs"
36. Usher ft. Beyonce & Lil Wayne, "Love in This Club Pt. 2"
37. Bob Dylan, "Someday Baby" [alt. take from Tell Tale Signs]
38. Jamey Johnson, "High Cost of Living"
39. The Academy Is . . . , "About a Girl"
40. Kings of Leon, "Sex on Fire"

41. Duffy, "Warwick Avenue"
42. The Raconteurs, "Salute Your Solution"
43. Erykah Badu, "The Healer"
44. Panic at the Disco, "Nine in the Afternoon"
45. Foals, "Cassius"
46. Taylor Swift, "Fifteen"
47. Janelle Monae, "Many Moons"
48. John Mellencamp, "Troubled Land"
49. Jonas Brothers, "Video Girl"
50. Jackson Browne, "Time the Conqueror"

51. Ashlee Simpson, "Rule Breaker"
52. Lee Ann Womack, "Last Call"
53. AC/DC, "Big Jack"
54. Cat Power, "I Believe in You"
55. Sigur Ros, "Gobbledigook"
56. The Hold Steady, "Constructive Summer"
57. Charles Hamilton, "Brooklyn Girls"
58. Jazmine Sullivan, "Bust Your Windows"
59. Low vs. Diamond, "Don't Forget Sister"
60. Ne-Yo, "Closer"

61. Robyn, "Cobrastyle"
62. The Gaslight Anthem, "The '59 Sound"
63. LCD Soundsystem, "Big Ideas"
64. She and Him, "Why Do You Let Me Stay Here"
65. The Virgins, "Rich Kids"
66. Jenny Lewis, "Acid Tongue"
67. M.I.A., "Shells"
68. Fall Out Boy, "I Don't Care"
69. Missy Elliott, "Ching-a-Ling"
70. Busy Signal, "Tic Toc"

71. Phantom Planet, "Do the Panic"
72. Sam Sparro, "Black and Gold"
73. Ciara ft. Ludacris, "High Price"
74. Ra Ra Riot, "Dying Is Fine"
75. Flo Rida ft. T-Pain, "Low"
76. The Roots, "Rising Down"
77. Hercules and Love Affair, "Blind"
78. Love as Laughter, "Holly"
79. Kid Cudi, "Day 'n' Nite"
80. Mudcrutch, "Crystal River"

81. The Knux, "Cappuccino"
82. Santogold & Diplo, "Icarus"
83. Get 'Em Mamis, "Cold Summer"
84. Lil Wayne, "A Milli"
85. M83, "Kim & Jessie"
86. The Rumble Strips, "Cowboy"
87. Friendly Fires, "Jump in the Pool"
88. Bon Iver, "Skinny Love"
89. Old Crow Medicine Show, "Alabama High-Test"
90. Busta Rhymes, "Don't Touch Me (Throw da Water on 'Em)"

91. O'Neal McKnight, "Check Your Coat"
92. White Denim, "Shake Shake Shake"
93. Madonna, "Candy Shop"
94. Los Campesinos, "Miserabilia"
95. Lucinda Williams, "Real Love"
96. Little Joy, "Brand New Start"
97. Sheryl Crow, "Now That You're Gone"
98. Teyana Taylor, "Google Me"
99. The Enemy, "You're Not Alone"
100. Will.i.am, "Yes We Can"

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Steve your rule would have knocked Pulp out of the reckoning by the time they released This Is Hardcore

this would not be a problem

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

73. Ciara ft. Ludacris, "High Price"

ayyy, thumbs up for this

lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

and here, I'll do it for you:

5. Lil Wayne, "Lollipop"
84. Lil Wayne, "A Milli"

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

93. Madonna, "Candy Shop"

this is so fucking bad but i do like 'Give It 2 Me'

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

this is probably the best singles list you'll see (despite the many glaring atrocities)

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

hahahaha I seriously doubt that

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

I always like Baltimore City Paper's lists, and not just when I contribute to them: http://www.citypaper.com/special/story.asp?id=17187. This one is local albums: http://www.citypaper.com/special/story.asp?id=17188.

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was bummed that only 3 things I voted for ended up in them (Erykah Badu in the former, 410 Pharaohs and E Major in the latter), but yeah, those lists came out pretty respectable.

the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fastnbulbous - The Dusk + Blackdown album is really good, very strong opening and closing runs.

Chris in Belfast, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

You know, despite the fact that I'd probably swap those places, I can't really fault them too hugely for putting "Lollipop" over "A milli". "Lollipop" is one those odd songs that managed to take bits and pieces from everything that was hot at that moment, and put them together in such a way that it sounded like none of its sources.

A REAL GOON (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

91. O'Neal McKnight, "Check Your Coat"

d-_-b

A REAL GOON (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hold up.

28. Kevin Rudolf ft. Lil Wayne, "Let It Rock"
84. Lil Wayne, "A Milli"

A REAL GOON (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah that RS list is half dope radio shit that most other rock mags turn their noses up at, and half horrible blog shit that even most of the people that liked it rightfully forgot a week after they downloaded it.

the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

you're forgetting all the token rock album tracks

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

well half of the non-obvious Rolling Stone stuff, i should say

the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's cool that some obscure Baltimore rap benefitted from the blog bias @ #83, though

the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha thank you (xpost)

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

3. The Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace

great album, seriously it deserves to be this high up

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

WIRE Critical Beats list:

Louis Guillaume - Soulpoint
Joker & Rustie - Play Doe
King Midas Sound - Cool Out
DJ Koze - I Want To Sleep
Martyn - Vancouver/Natural Selection
Peverelist - Infinity Is Now/Junktion
Rustie - Zig Zag
Trim - Soulfood vol 3
Scuba - Twitch
Shackleton - Soundboy's Suicide Note
Shackleton - Death Is Not Final
Skream - Skreamizm vol 4
Tobias - I Can't Fight The Feeling
Villalobos - Vasco
Villalobos - Enfants

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

i would love a little 'play' button beside all of those

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

WIRE Electronica list

Benge - Twenty Sytems
Blevin Blectum - Gular Flutter
Bochum Welt - ROB
Byetone - Death of a Typographer
Lawrence English - Kiri No Oto
Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
Koen Holtkamp - Field Rituals
Machinefabrik - Dauw
Matmos - Supreme Balloon
Move D - Drone
Theo Parrish - Sound Sculptures
Max Richter - 24 Postcards
Schlammpeitziger - Schwingstelle Fur Rauschabzug
snd - 4,5,6
Tape - Luminarium

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yes Steve, me too! x-post

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

WIRE Avant Rock list:

Aufgehoben - Khora
Burning Star Core - Challenger
Birchville Cat Motel - Four Freckle Constellation
Black Mountain - In The Future
Dead C - Secret Earth
Eat Skull - Sick to Death
Fabulous Diamonds - s/t
Growing - All The Way
Hair Police - Certainty of Swarms
Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace
Hototogisu - Under the Rose
Religious Knives - Remains
Scorces - I Turn Into You
Alexander Tucker - Portal
Valet - Naked Acid

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

If anyone particularly wants any of the others (outer limits, global, hip hop, jazz, modern composition, dub etc), give us a shout and I'll try and do it later.

NickB, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

that RS

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

list is a fucking trip

you brought me home to this funky house (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 18:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Outer Limits please!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

i would love to see the wire 'ip 'op list

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Wire Hiphop list:

Clipse presents Re-Up Gang - s/t
Cool Kids - Winterfresh
Peedi Crack - Welcome To Crakk's House
Giggs - Walk In Da Park
Charles Hamilton - It's Charles Hamilton
Alicia Keys - Teenage Love Affair
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
Madlib - Madvillany 2
MIA feat. Jay-Z - Boyz (Remix)
9th Wonder & Buckshot - The Formula
Proton - Red & Purple Mixtape Vol. 1
Guilty Simpson - Ode To The Ghetto
TI feat. Kanye West, Jay-Z & Lil Wayne - Swagga Like Us
Wale - The Mixtape About Nothing
Yo! Majesty - Futuristically Speaking...Never Be Afraid

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Wire Outer Limits list:

AFCGT - AFCGT
Astral Social Club - Model Town In A Field Of Mud
John Baker - The John Baker Tapes Vol 1 & 2
Excepter - Debt Dept
Ron Geesin - Biting The Hand: BBC Radio Broadcasts 1969-1975
G*Park - Reuters
Russell Haswell - Second Live Salvage
The Hub - Boundary Layer
Kikuri - Pulverised Purple
Jacob Kirkegaard - Labyrinthitis
Richard Skelton - Marking Time
Shit And Shine - Kuss Mich, Meine Liebe
Howard Stelzer - Bond Inlets
Volcano The Bear - Amidst The Noise And Twigs
Zeitkratzer - Electronics

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Wire Hiphop list:

some decent picks on there but man i hate lists that lump albums and songs into one confusing bag like that

the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

i mean maybe all their other lists are like that too and I just couldn't tell

the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 19:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

1. Beyonce, "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)"

could get behind this

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

me too!

all my single lobsters put a ring on it (tpp), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Any of you guys wanna explain to me why that was the best song of the year?

vampire baseball (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

maybe they didn't hear the 50 other superior R&B singles that came out this year?

the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

I find "Single Ladies" kind of noxious, tbh.

jaymc, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

i like lollipop more than a milli, still

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hip Hop Connection's top 40 of the year

40. Sway - The Signature
39. DPF - It'll Never Catch On
38. Triple Darkness - Anathema
37. Vast Aire - Deuces Wild
36. The Cool Kids - The Bake Sale
35. Dagha - The Divorce
34. Santogold - Santogold
33. Sadat X - Generation X
32. Foreign Exchange - Leave It All Behind
31. Termanology - Politics As Usual
30. Kidz In The Hall - The In Crowd
29. People Under The Stairs - Fun DMC
28. DJ Revolution - King Of The Decks
27. Nappy Roots - The Humdinger
26. Blak Twang - Speaking From Experience
25. Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold
24. Guilty Simpson - Ode To The Ghetto
23. Jake One - White Van Music
22. The Bug - London Zoo
21. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
20. The Game - LAX
19. Pete Rock - NY's Finest
18. NERD - Seeing Sounds
17. Nas - Untitled
16. Kashmere - Raiders of the Lost Archives
15. Prodigy - HNIC 2
14. Young Jeezy - The Recession
13. Baby J - Baby Food
12. The Roots - Rising Down
11. Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
10. Black Milk - The Tronic
9. Large Professor - Main Source
8. Elzhi - The Preface
7. Sir Smurf Lil - A New Bloodline
6. Fat Ray & Black Milk - The Set Up
5. ABN - It Is What It Is
4. EMC - The Show
3. Million Dan - Spektrum
2. The P Brothers - The Gas
1. Roots Manuva - Slime and Reason

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

voting for triple darkness!! propz

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

#18?

Andy K, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

With the exception of guys who are in there because they always have to be in a rap year end list (Nas, NERD, Twang), that's a nice list.

Or what he just said, xp.

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's described as an "album that brought the funk".

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

19. Pete Rock - NY's Finest

^^^this album was so terrible it made me want to ;_;

deej, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

fact magazine top 100 tracks

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1604&Itemid=27

stirmonster, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

another day, anopther quietus list.

this time reissues/mixtapes/compilations get the love :

30 Various Artists - Optimo Sleepwalk
29 A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology
28 Throbbing Gristle - 32nd Annual Report
27 Magazine - The Peel Sessions
26 Various Artists - BBC Radiophonic Music
25 808 State - Ex El
24 New Order - Low-Life
23 Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Union Café
22 Various Artists - Eine Kleine Nachtmusik Mix Tape
21 Soft Cell - Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret
20 Various Artists - Top Ranking Santogold: A Diplo Dub
19 Various Artists - New Orleans Funk Volume 2
18 Various Artists - Nigeria Rock Special: Psychedelic Afro Rock & Fuzz Funk In 1970s Nigeria
17 Diamanda Galas - Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Live
16 Loop - Fade Out
15 Omar Rodriguez-Lopez - Absence Makes The Heart Grow Fungus
14 New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies
13 Prodigy - More Music For the Jilted Generation
12 Killing Joke - The Peel Sessions 1979 – 1981
11 Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
10 Gary Numan & Tubeway Army - Replicas
9 Artery - Live at Meltdown
8 Einsturzende Neubauten - The Jewels
7 Gas - Nah Und Fern
6 Teenage Jesus & The Jerks - Shut Up and Bleed
5 Various Artists - Dancehall: The Rise Of Jamaican Dance
4 Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85 - 92
3 Various Artists - Sprigs Of Time: 78s From The EMI Archives
2 OMD - Dazzle Ships
1 Suicide - Live 1977 - 78 Box Set

mark e, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

35. Dagha - The Divorce

Anyone know if this is good?

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've liked what I've heard from it so far, but I think I'd like it better if I did hella weed.

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

the posting of the wire list coincided nicely with my monthly emusic download renewal.

that philip jeck album in the #2 is serious. i've heard of less than half the rest of the list, though

mark cl, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

35. Dagha - The Divorce

the only hip hop album i actually listened to more than twice this year.

mark e, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

That P Bros any good Dom?

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Would make a good soundtrack for Blade 4.

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Norway's Aftenposten Newspaper - Best 2008 Albums
http://oslopuls.aftenposten.no/musikk/article111824.ece

Aftenposten scrapped their English language website recently, so only Geir can read the blurbs. Aftenposten is Norway's equivalent of The Daily Telegraph.

djmartian, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

So far, the list that my/our EoY list is most going to resemble is...

The Wire Hiphop list!

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 08:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

fact magazine top 100 tracks is the first list i've actively enjoyed (if u ignore the indie obv) - loads of trax which are in line to make my own list, plus quite a few that i hadn't heard & now need to check out

lex pretend, Thursday, 11 December 2008 09:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fact Magazine website also seemingly non-cognisant of term "at a glance."

Lex OTM though.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 09:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

it actually hurts my head to think that this is the only list so far to feature a crazy cousinz item

lex pretend, Thursday, 11 December 2008 09:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw, everyone, I got the Geeneus album yesterday and it is fab fab FAB and that'll teach everyone not to wait until the actual end of the year before doing EoY lists.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 09:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, I got it on TUESDAY so NERR I AM FUNKIER!

mike t-diva, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Although he could stand to slow down a bit on the mixed CD - 31 tracks in 60 minutes, phew...)

mike t-diva, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fact magazine produced a really good list last year as I remember. I should try reading it sometime.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

"btw, everyone, I got the Geeneus album yesterday and it is fab fab FAB and that'll teach everyone not to wait until the actual end of the year before doing EoY lists."

I'm more annoyed about not including "As I" in my top ten singles than the Geeneus album in my top ten albums (it reminds me a bit of the first Wookie album - in both cases the pre-album singles included are more exciting and raw than the self-consciously futurist tracks). And I had ample warning slash no excuse with "As I", it just hit me rather slowly how much I adore it.

"Yellowtail" was the most ubiquitous and one of the best funky tracks of the year, but I'd feel a bit Dissensus repping for it too hard.

Tim F, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Kudos to Fact for putting audio links on all of that. I'm not sure I've heard the Heartsrevolution track.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

(Although he could stand to slow down a bit on the mixed CD - 31 tracks in 60 minutes, phew...)

On the average George Mitchell Minstrels album you got 60 songs in 31 minutes! Kids these days etc.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Startled at Hip Hop Connection putting a couple of fortysomethings from Nottingham act at #2. (The P Brothers - The Gas) My promo CD was literally unlistenable: low bitrate (I'm guessing 64k) PLUS blasts of white noise every minute or so PLUS annoying electronic voiceover announcements, again every minute or so. Pure torture, and they even pulled the same stunt on the album's preview megamix on MySpace! Is this common anti-piracy practice in hip hop, then?

mike t-diva, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Actually judging by the awful elitist Dissensus-lite copy on the Fact list, maybe I won't bother with the magazine after all.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I got a sampler of the Prodigy album that HHC has at no. 15 and it has to be heard to be believed. I didn't get round to timing the gaps between voiceover dropouts like I was going to but it was roughly every 10 seconds. It was basically impossible to tell if the actual release would have any merit or not

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

I dunno if I'd call 'Dissensus-lite' a bad thing per se!

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

"awful elitist Dissensus-lite copy" - MUST READ!

It is fairly standard practice as anyone fool enough to pick up the average Lethal Bizzle or Kano promo will testify.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Actually I was reading the list last night and there was a track (can't be arsed checking now) that was, paraphrasing, "good but has since been licenced to MoS so is liked by idiots" that basically made me want to shank whoever wrote it, so yeah not gonna go great lengths to defend the mag (I quite enjoy it when I read it on the whole tho)

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Mail on Sunday?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost: That was Kid Cudi's "Day 'N Night", I think.

Last year's Kano album promo played lovely! It must be a Worrying New Development.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

The last Prodigy album I had a promo of - Never Knowingly Undersold, or whatever that underachieving fourth album was called - was also interference free so maybe they're getting worried.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/41537

(lol acronym meld)

(Ministry innit)

xxp

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is Mobb Deep Prodigy btw

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

"I think that if we can move into original content in the long run that will be more exciting. It is closer to what we do in the newspaper - we don't publish other people's stories. We are original content providers."

Ha ha, tell that to the various bloggers whose content they've splashed over double page spreads without permission or payment!

mike t-diva, Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pushing the envelope already with the ACM Gospel Choir there.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 10:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Very glad to see others got in ahead of me with the task of typing up the Wire lists. I bet myself before turning the page to see the top of their list that the Bug would be #1, good to see I've been keeping my finger on the pulse.

krakow, Thursday, 11 December 2008 11:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

wow, the wire's "critical beats" list sure veered dubstep this year. (for the record, i contributed about half of that; guessing walmsley did the rest. and my list was, shockingly, mostly dubstep, with the exception of villalobos, koze, and louis guilliaume. i think i voted for move d's "drøne," too, but it looks like that slipped over to the electronica list.)

as for mixing up tracks, albums and singles, IMO it's the only way to do it when each genre just gets one (short) list...

pshrbrn, Thursday, 11 December 2008 11:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost: That was Kid Cudi's "Day 'N Night", I think.

― mike t-diva, Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:49 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha thats one of the main songs discussed in frankenstein beats thread -- it has an american corollary w/ a crookers remix as well

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Thursday, 11 December 2008 12:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

1. Roots Manuva - Slime and Reason

really missing something with this

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 12:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can't get past the cover. Ties with Santogold for title of worst 2008 album cover.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

1. Roots Manuva - Slime and Reason

really missing something with this

― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 12:27 (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Problem with Roots Manuva albums is that they take far too long to "unlock" when listening to now, and I just get convinced the further he gets into his career the less valuable the stuff you're gonna be discovering on the 40th listen is.

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think i just wanted some not-boring beats

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

I sort of lost interest in Roots Manuva when I realised he was a really plodding MC who happens to have an amazing voice.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gigwise's Top 50 Albums Of 2008!
http://www.gigwise.com/photos/48128/Gigwises-Top-50-Albums-Of-2008

djmartian, Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Spin Magazine - The 40 Best Albums of 2008
http://www.spin.com/articles/40-best-albums-2008?page=0%2C0

djmartian, Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dear Gigwise,

I can't be fucked to click 'Next' 50 times to see which record you voted as number one. Please make your website less shit or I will assume you voted for MGMT like everyone else.

Yours,

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

poor Gigwise they just don't understand Information Design

djmartian, Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/930811

Gigwise Top 10

1. Elbow
2. Lil' Wayne
3. TV On The Radio
4. MGMT
5. Kanye West
6. Neon Neon
7. Friendly Fires
8. Metallica
9. Mogwai
10. Sebastien Tellier

djmartian, Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Gigwise need to become WEBwise
http://www.informationdesign.org/

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

I fiddled with the URL - it was Eblow what won it.

x-post durn it

NickB, Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

does anyone on ILM love/care about both the Elbow and Lil Wayne albums to roughly the same degree?

Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Probably a fair few who think they're both shit.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

and the faeces

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 11 December 2008 13:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

what's up with spin's santogold review? so who actually gets the spot, her or lykki?

pshrbrn, Thursday, 11 December 2008 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

same goes for elbow

Trik Turner Fan Club President (Tape Store), Thursday, 11 December 2008 15:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lykke gets Lykke's spot, clearly.

Matos W.K., Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Did Spin really compare Hot Chip to Nate Dogg?

the gov (rod blagojevich ha ha) (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 December 2008 19:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

what's up with spin's santogold review? so who actually gets the spot, her or lykki?

I don't understand this comment. Did we read the same review?

SANTOGOLD
SANTOGOLD
The M.I.A. comparisons fly as far as surging opener "L.E.S. Artistes." From there, Santi White concocts her own dance-floor ultramodernity, incorporating '80s new wave (the Missing Persons–meets-Devo "You'll Find a Way"), reggae ("Shove It"), and coconut-flavored electro (the buzzing "Unstoppable"). It's a sonic mash as gloriously schizoid as her outfits. Who else could make opening for Coldplay, writing songs for Ashlee Simpson, and collaborating with Spank Rock seem so audaciously natural? J.M.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

coconut-flavored electro?

Yeltsin vs Predalien (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Did Spin really compare Hot Chip to Nate Dogg?

― the gov (rod blagojevich ha ha) (The Reverend), Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:42 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they're just trying to make us start another poll thread

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

The M.I.A. comparisons fly as far as surging opener "L.E.S. Artistes."

Actually, that's the line that bothers me the most, since "Creator" is clearly the song on the album that's the most M.I.A.-derivative.

jaymc, Thursday, 11 December 2008 20:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Drowned In Sound's 50 Albums of 2008

I'm still looking for that Rolo Tomassi album. Finally heard Wild Beasts, and not sure what to think about that singer. Some moments remind me of Long Fin Killie.

The few unique entries are:
Hauschka - Ferndorf
Johnny Foreigner - Waited Up 'Til It Was Light
Diamanda Galas - Guilty Guilty Guilty

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 12 December 2008 10:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

tbh i'd forgotten that guilty guilty guilty was released, mostly b/c diamanda isn't an artist one exactly listens to regularly, but there's a track in the middle of it called 'time (interlude)' which is just chillingly beautiful.

lex pretend, Friday, 12 December 2008 10:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Johnny Foreigner only at #38? Heads will roll.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 10:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Next year I'm lobbying for Diamanda Galas Week on X Factor.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 10:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

someone tell me about johnny foreigner. ive only heard of them cuz they've toured w/ campesinos lots this year though im assuming that they are irreparably terrible.

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 10:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

You'll probably like them if you like Los Campesinos. I think they are largely terrible.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 10:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol u gotta be fuckin kidding me with this 500 word intro to the dis list

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 10:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Their name is bad enough to prevent my investigating them any further.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 10:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

What a pompous pile of pumpkin piss that DiS intro is.

"We decree" - FUCK OFF!

"potent pop" - KILL NOW

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I find their incessant references to "our world" and similar really offputting and I also feel like the extent to which they seem to cling to it as an ethos drags them down as a potentially not bad site

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah i think dis is generally not awful - the writing is only okay if im being generous but they give lots of bands a completely open forum and it usually results in really interesting reads wrt bands that you care about (the track-by-track feature especially)

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

DiS is very consciously about creating a sense of community and that community is the modern extension of a ground-level London-centric indie fanzine world. I find this pretty offputting as well but can't really deny it's been a significant factor in their success, despite the site as a whole feeling very cobbled together.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 11:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hang on, I've just read the piece and it's terrible. I'm not sure what 'world' Outkast share with DiS but I haven't seen Andre 3000 down the Monarch of late.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 11:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

He was there with Cee-Lo. It was groovy.

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

DiS reminds me of Jazz Journal - that always goes on about "our" world and OUR music and is equally out of touch.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've heard Young Jeezy was spotted at the Los Campesinos gig the other day. He likes listening to M83 while dipping into Baudrillard as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 11:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

DiS is very consciously about creating a sense of community and that community is the modern extension of a ground-level London-centric indie fanzine world. I find this pretty offputting as well but can't really deny it's been a significant factor in their success, despite the site as a whole feeling very cobbled together.

― Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 11:21 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Success may be too strong a word there.

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bit patronising to suggest that he wouldn't (xp).

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

I meant success as in lots of readers, not as in actually making money.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 11:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

They've done more with it than I would have expected, but also not as much as they clearly must have expected at one point

The Biggest Event In The History Of Ethnic Comedy (DJ Mencap), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

What, like Hull City?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 11:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

In 2008 DiS ended their ties with BSKyB
http://www.drownedinsound.com/in_depth/3858825
...and lost their lead writer (who is now at Clash Magazine / Website)

djmartian, Friday, 12 December 2008 12:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Granuiad

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/series/critics-poll-2008 1-10
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/12/3 11-50 and two #31's

Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 12 December 2008 13:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Seriously, people, TV On The Radio, you're being conned.

"an album that boldly took the guitar where no record had gone before"

Derek Bailey spinning in his grave even as I speak.

Seriously, whoever wrote that should have their hands smashed with concrete blocks, like they did in Mao's China, to teach them not to do it again.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 13:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Two words:

Living Colour.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 13:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

YES MARCELLO CARLIN, MOST OF THEM HAVE BLACK SKIN AND THEY PLAY GUITARS THEREFORE THEY ARE LIVING COLOUR

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

You know I'm right.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

In the storied history of idiotic things said on ILM, Marcello's second post takes the fucking cake. I was with him on his first post re: TVotR, but goddamn man.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

O_O

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure if Kyp Malone was playing hyperkinetic Vernon Reid guitar solos, they would get kicked out of indie rock faster than you can say "Brooklyn Vegan comment section"

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

They all look alike, huh Marcello?

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

I realise that some of you young 'uns don't remember the 1987/8 critical poll-topping phenomenon that was Living Colour. Plenty of used copies of their vibrant string of albums available to confirm the dazzling influence that they exerted upon their generation.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wow.

Andy K, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Living Colour were basically Marsalis metal.

The correct answers were Last Exit and AR Kane.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://i38.tinypic.com/260tqvt.jpg

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

hey look, there's a suggest ban button after every one of marcello's posts, i wonder what that's for?

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8383/vvaj3.jpg

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Keep talking, Marcello, I still can't tell if you are insane or just a dipshit

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, you can either provide a convincing and coherent argument to the contrary or you can lazily press the Suggest Ban button and enjoy an easy life of lazy mediocrity.

I realise that the amount of effort required for the latter is a lot less bothersome than that required for the former.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

I realise that the amount of effort required for the latter is a lot less bothersome than that required for the former.

the amount of effort required for the latter is barely the effort that your bullshit deserves

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

suggest ban = not as lazy as comparing tv on the radio to living colour

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^^bingo

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Marcello, are you trying to imply some sort of tokenism or are you just being a quasiracist dickwipe?

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

If you can't hear Living Colour's "dazzling influence" in Body Count, Rage Against The Machine, System Of A Down and Sevendust, you are indeed a huge dipshit.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, Living Colour is awesome and I might go play Time's Up right now.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm implying that, as with Living Colour, TV On The Radio are a fundamentally very average and non-innovative rock group who are getting a free "alternative" critical pass on the grounds of colour-related guilt.

Just as it was more convenient to like the easily absorbable Living Colour in 1987 than more problematic characters such as Public Enemy or Schoolly-D, so it is much more comforting to flee to the shelter of TVOTR rather than grasp with the panoply/explosion of creative black music in 2008, from Giggs to Ludacris.

And as for the presumed influence on Body Count, Rage Against The Machine, System of a Down and Sevendust - well, would we really have been any poorer without any of these?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

OK, now I want to move from Suggest Ban to killfile.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

The "more problematic" PE won the polls, not Living Colour.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

The 1988 Pazz & Jop Critics Poll

Albums

1. Public Enemy: It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (Def Jam) 1011 (79)
2. Sonic Youth: Daydream Nation (Blast First/Enigma) 716 (58)
3. Tracy Chapman: Tracy Chapman (Elektra) 685 (59)
4. Midnight Oil: Diesel and Dust (Columbia) 308 (27) *
5. Michelle Shocked: Short Sharp Shocked (Mercury) 296 (31)
6. Was (Not Was): What Up, Dog? (Chrysalis) 273 (23)
7. Pere Ubu: The Tenement Year (Enigma) 264 (26)
8. Keith Richards: Talk Is Cheap (Virgin) 264 (25)
9. Traveling Wilburys: Volume One (Wilbury) 263 (26)
10. Randy Newman: Land of Dreams (Warner Bros.) 261 (25)
11. Leonard Cohen: I'm Your Man (Columbia) 254 (23)
12. Brian Wilson: Brian Wilson (Sire) 248 (24)
13. Ornette Coleman and Prime Time: Virgin Beauty (Portrait) 234 (21)
14. Richard Thompson: Amnesia (Capitol) 219 (22)
15. Cowboy Junkies: The Trinity Sessions (RCA) 217 (20)
16. Lucinda Williams: Lucinda Williams (Rough Trade) 214 (20)
17. Prince: Lovesexy (Paisley Park) 211 (26)
18. John Hiatt: Slow Turning (A&M) 209 (21)
19. Womack & Womack: Conscience (Island) 207 (19)
20. Prince: The Black Album (bootleg) 203 (21)
21. U2: Rattle and Hum (Island) 203 (15)
22. George Michael: Faith (Columbia) 199 (17) *
23. Living Colour: Vivid (Epic) 196 (19)

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

You might have a point if your bullshit theory wasn't full of holes big enough to drive a dumptruck through.

(ha - xpost)

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, if you think the Ludacris album is better than the TVOTR album you have way bigger problems than quasiracist dickwipism

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

LC was 5th place in the 1990 poll, fyi (not that it gives any weight to what Marcello's saying)

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Terrible list, that 1988 one.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rarely has a poster been so aptly named as Whiney!

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

3. Tracy Chapman: Tracy Chapman (Elektra) 685 (59)

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ludacris is in no way more innovative or less prone to mediocrity than TV On The Radio (tho it may well be their albums are roughly equal in quality, know rap albums won't beat rock albums in these polls and get over it)

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

19. Womack & Womack: Conscience (Island) 207 (19)

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

How dare TVOTR sound insufficently black! Why, they don't even try rapping! Perhaps Marcello can sit them down and explain what real blackness is all about.

(More people voted for Talk Is Cheap than I'm Your Man?)

Dorianlynskey, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

3, 19

xpost

Andy K, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Incorrect. It's a question of changing things, not getting over things. Better to demolish cancers than "get over" them.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ludacris hasn't been substantially innovative for about half a decade.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

i have no idea what you are all talking about but i do take issue with:

know rap albums won't beat rock albums in these polls and get over it

ughhh no, why should we get over this?

lex pretend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Unfortunately TV On The Radio fail to transcend their ghosted promise. They have to realise that their voices are not their own, that they are the product of a discourse.

Also, Battles do this sort of thing infinitely better.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's the usual ILM malaise, Lex; white kids clinging on to the rotting deadwood of the old world instead of sailing into the new one.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Clinging onto Elbow nurse for fear of something worse.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://mjau.weretree.com/rnd/just-keep-digging.jpg

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, Battles do this sort of thing infinitely better.

What "sort of thing" is that, exactly?

jaymc, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Battles don't sound anything like TVOTR. They do, however, feature black folk playing rock, so I guess that'll do.

Dorianlynskey, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

Which is more than can be said for "an album that boldly took the guitar where no record had gone before" which is now officially the most ridiculous assertion ever published in the Grauniad not written by Richard Gott.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 14:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.errorloading.net/uploads/backhoe.jpg

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Good call on Womack & Womack, Reverend. Why up so early?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Fell asleep at 8.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 14:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Much like the artist himself did while making it.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

ughhh no, why should we get over this?

because it's The Guardian, a newspaper of certain cultural position in a country where rock music is generally more popular (whether it's 'innovative' or not).

if Badu and Wayne's albums - which seem insincerely elevated in these lists - experience a significant sales bump or profile rise as a result of being in their top 10 then i'd be surprised.

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Badu album means more to me than album of this decade, imo. Insincerely, my behind.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd question whether rock is actually more popular in Britain than rap and/or dance and/or R&B.

It's certainly written about more for obvious historical/demographic reasons but that doesn't in itself make it more popular.

But the disease through most of the polls we've had so far is the same - stick to the dying embers of whiteboy indie instead of embracing the life of the future, and thus concluding that '08's been a crap/average year and thus saving 50-year-old Fifty Quid Man much inconvenient time and expenditure investigating actual new music.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Guys, there's really no rap album that came out in 2008 that's worthy of being the No. 1 album of the year. But I understand where you're coming from, lex et al

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

And how many 2008 rap albums have you listened to, exactly?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Have we met?

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

And, how many 2008 rap albums have you listened to, exactly?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Marcello, please keep talking to people who listen to a lot more rap than you as if they never listen to rap.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, whip it out, Whiney, show us your list. don't let the size of Marcello's Paper Trail thread intimidate you.

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

look out, this british guy is challenging your rap cred

n/a is just more of a character....in a genre polluted by clones (n/a), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Why should they have been "insincerely elevated", blueski? Especially when I assume the Lex voted for Badu as his favourite album and I know a few others (myself included) who had it in their top five. There's no reason to believe it wasn't placed exactly according to the votes it got. Same goes for Lil Wayne.

This attitude just suggests that if a hip hop album DID get the top spot - if this list had been running in 2003 or 2004 then Outkast and Kanye might both have done so - it would no doubt also be dismissed as insincere posturing/tokenism/hip hop for white people/blah blah blah.

Nobody listens to more rap than Marcello. Don't you know he started this gangsta shit and this is the motherfuckin' thanks he gets?

Dorianlynskey, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really can't find a way to respond to him without sounding like an arrogant "whippin out my music dick" prick or a total .xls aspie nerd, so can we all just agree that I listen to a whole fucking shit-ton of rap

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

because it's The Guardian, a newspaper of certain cultural position in a country where rock music is generally more popular (whether it's 'innovative' or not).

ok i) i don't believe this, ii) if rock is more popular then it shouldn't be - and the media should be the ones transmitting this.

The Badu album means more to me than album of this decade, imo. Insincerely, my behind.

^^^this.

Guys, there's really no rap album that came out in 2008 that's worthy of being the No. 1 album of the year.

my no 1 is erykah, but young jeezy, wiley* and nappy roots made really outstanding albums; lil' wayne, t.i. and trina made inconsistent ones but with amazingly high highs; will also rep for gucci mane, bun b and tinchy stryder too (they're certainly better than tv on the radio, at any rate).

*grime wave, not see clear now. obv.

lex pretend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

nah, you're just hangin' out on the ringtone thread talking the talk while marcello's out in the real world walking the walk

xpost

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

For the record, Marcello, if you wanna to talk #s, 41. And I agree with Whiney.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

And how many 2008 rap albums have you listened to exactly?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh my god.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have to work today you fucking boner, so I don't have time to count all the piles of promos and downloads, so can we say somewhere around 100?

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Maybe more, I don't know.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

I guarantee I've heard every rap record that you're heard that isn't some oi oi oi bullshit with someone talking about smoking weed over a PlayStation

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

about 30 nat'l releases for me (if you count mixtapes and local releases, then triple that #), and I also agree with Whiney.

Anne Dwutt (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Why should they have been "insincerely elevated", blueski? Especially when I assume the Lex voted for Badu as his favourite album and I know a few others (myself included) who had it in their top five. There's no reason to believe it wasn't placed exactly according to the votes it got. Same goes for Lil Wayne.

fair dos i was being overly cynical. i just can't imagine a non-rock album being voted #1 but then am half-thinking 'well that's probably fair enough when you look at who's voting in these things and how everything is slanted against 'other' and why shouldn't one ethos dominate if that's an honest reflection of things etc.

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have a solution! Maybe these magazines and newspapers and websites and blogs should just vote for NO music by colored people! That would solve their tokenism issue!

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Marcello, I'm usually with you, but you're not making a whit of sense.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

To be honest most if not all of the Grauniad's Top 50 should have been rap/R&B/grime/dance/reggaeton but I fully understand their need to keep their elderly readership happy with dollops of grim Bob Harris/Radcliffe & Maconie-friendly whiteboy whingeing. Hauntology really is so 2006.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

no, The Reverend, that's ridiculous. they should have their own list.

The strawman from the hilarious 'ilx' race threads (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

I have a solution! Maybe these magazines and newspapers and websites and blogs should just vote for NO music by colored people! That would solve their tokenism issue!

thinking of imposing a "no white people" rule on my lists

(though i think the only artist who'd be affected is ashlee simpson)

lex pretend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

lolntology

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

How can all these mags release their best-of-2008 lists now, when there's still more than a month left of 2008?

It is a well-known fact that most albums released in December are usually either "best of" compilations or crowded with songs about Santa, reindeers, Christmas trees, snow and mistletoes.....

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

ONLY MY TASTES ARE VALID GET WITH IT, PEOPLE

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hey, Geir, would you like to get involved in this race debate? You could only improve it!

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

ok i) i don't believe this,

why don't you believe it? anything other than 'narrow-minded bias/conspiracy among media' type reasons?

ii) if rock is more popular then it shouldn't be - and the media should be the ones transmitting this.

'shouldn't be' only because more balance seems good (even if it's not really proportionately representative of national cultures), not just 'let's tip the scales the other way'

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

I haven't seen Geir's list yet but how can he leave out Sounds Of The Valleys or The Priests or the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards or any of the other highly melodic tunesmiths on sale for £6.96 at Tesco?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's the same with all these polls, really; the innovative and truly talented are seldom even mentioned, it's always the mediocrities and Buggins' turns who've been around for years.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lex, Marcello: are black people better at singing and dancing than white people?

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yes or no, no need for expansion at all.

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

My head is spinning around right now, exorcist-style.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

I do not believe Jean Charles de Menezes died just so that Fleet Foxes and Glasvegas could live.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

'shouldn't be' only because more balance seems good (even if it's not really proportionately representative of national cultures), not just 'let's tip the scales the other way'

"national cultures"?????

lex pretend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Invented by Moroccans, you do know that?

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

To be honest most if not all of the Grauniad's Top 50 should have been rap/R&B/grime/dance/reggaeton but I fully understand their need to keep their elderly readership happy with dollops of grim Bob Harris/Radcliffe & Maconie-friendly whiteboy whingeing. Hauntology really is so 2006.

Suggest Ban Permalink
― Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, December 12, 2008 7:21 AM Bookmark

And how many 2008 reggaeton albums have you listened to exactly?

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

looooool

The strawman from the hilarious 'ilx' race threads (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

About forty, but a lot more singles - well into triple figures.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

o rly

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

my, that's a big number!

The strawman from the hilarious 'ilx' race threads (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

For the record, TVOTR do try to rap, briefly, on their new album. It's not to their credit.

Tim F, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Why don't you make us a CD-R of reggaeton songs that are better than TV On The Radio so we can listen to it.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

how many riddims were there this year?

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Damn, we could have used Marcello's input on the rolling reggaeton thread this year when we were talking about how barely anything is coming out.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to Time's Up right now, as promised.

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

racist.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

"For the record, TVOTR do try to rap, briefly, on their new album. It's not to their credit."

They did it as a favour to Marcello.

Dorianlynskey, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

my no 1 is erykah, but young jeezy, wiley* and nappy roots made really outstanding albums; lil' wayne, t.i. and trina made inconsistent ones but with amazingly high highs; will also rep for gucci mane, bun b and tinchy stryder too (they're certainly better than tv on the radio, at any rate).

What about Sway?

braveclub, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

You're all arguing with someone who called Bob Marley an "Uncle Tom" and Leona Lewis a "half-caste". And while it's usually amusing to point out the holes in the argument of people whose virulent anti-racism makes them look worse than the (relatively mild) thing they're attacking, there is no reasoning with Marcello when he gets into this state so I wouldn't bother.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

what time do you call this?

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sorry, I've been busy.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

i wasn't really feeling the sway album beyond 'f ur x' (which is admittedly amazing) - it wasn't funny enough, and a sway who doesn't make me laugh is a pointless sway

lex pretend, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm sure Lil Wayne will be cursing finishing lower than Metronomy in a few polls, all the way to the bank.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 15:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think the ratio of people arguing with marcello to people just pointing and laughing is at least 4:1

The strawman from the hilarious 'ilx' race threads (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 15:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

random youuuutuuuube of 'f ur x' for the americans! just to make this thread a happy place again

"does my girl tink me a dunce? bellin off ya bloodclaat phone when she wants"

lex pretend, Friday, 12 December 2008 16:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

You're all arguing with someone who called Bob Marley an "Uncle Tom" and Leona Lewis a "half-caste". And while it's usually amusing to point out the holes in the argument of people whose virulent anti-racism makes them look worse than the (relatively mild) thing they're attacking, there is no reasoning with Marcello when he gets into this state so I wouldn't bother.

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― Matt DC, Friday, December 12, 2008 7:54 AM Bookmark

Goddamn, I forgot about this shit. Marcello, I apoligize for calling you a "quasiracist dickwipe". You are a plain ol' racist dickwipe.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 16:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

I cannot believe the lack of Cat Power on these. It kills Modern Guilt with a scimitar. And the lack of Ladyhawke is a bit boggling as well. And of course, Girl Talk is just the worst "music" ever made.

*SIGH*

daviday, Friday, 12 December 2008 16:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

how can you get that excited about Ladyhawke tho? couple of pleasant radio-friendly electropop songs but surely that's it. i'd sooner have Ladytron (ignored because it's the same old same old but they've refined it enough to keep me coming back to the best tracks damn them)

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 16:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks, lex. That was awesome.

The Reverend, Friday, 12 December 2008 16:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to Time's Up right now, as promised.

― uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, December 12, 2008 10:46 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=64782

the talented mr shipley (and what), Friday, 12 December 2008 16:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

just wanted to be first in with the screen name bite.

shipley's believe it or not (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 16:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha

The strawman from the hilarious 'ilx' race threads (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 16:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

the entire ladyhawke album is killer, imho.

Ladytron? Seriously? What is this, 2003?

daviday, Friday, 12 December 2008 16:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

That Ladyhawke record would have sounded dated and knackered three years ago.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 December 2008 16:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

yes, that is a daft argument. i still prefer Ladytron's harder sound tho (plus they're no more ploughing the same old furrow than half the bands in these polls inc. pretty much all the bands who've been around 15 years or more).

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 16:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

meh. now I remember why I haven't been on this board for the last three years. *waves*

daviday, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

what a wimp

Kramer vs Balearic (blueski), Friday, 12 December 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

Living Colour had their moments, like "Cult of Personality": very apt, but shoulda had rock icons in video, not just pols). Often seemed more plod than thud. Better when ranging a little further afield (from late 80s calculations of MTV/arena metal mainstream appeal): "Memories Can't Wait", and that Ubu cover (wasn't it Time's Up reissued with a bonus disc of covers etc?) Also better and further: Vernon with Frisell,on their Smash And Scatteration; various albums with Ronald Shannon Jackson and the Decoding Society ( robertchristgau.com astute on these); that most recent VR & Masque album has some great stuff too, though uneven as usual. Fleet Foxes' tapestry of harmonies and imagery=cloying. Suspect lineage of CSNY (CN=fatty tissue, though the marbling that kept SY together longer and perhaps better than Stills-Young Band--or you could just listen to Buffalo Springfield, Neil's own, Byrds, and Hollies, not to mention Stills-Young Band). Most freak folk is cloying, but the rainy day mythologies ("bored enough to fuck with it"-xgau on punks on heritage of rock) of Oregon's own Blitzen Trapper are refreshing (and see how non-spacey they really are, re-working their songs for Daytrotter Sessions, like a fair number of other bands on there don't fare so well outside of their own studio setups). Also (prob on my P&J this year)Bodies of Water, whose own tapestry of etc. is of house and lineage of Mugwumps/Mamas & Papas/maybe Fairport/Fotheringay etc, but all that's just a point of departure. As you were. thx d

dow, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

TVOTR ineligible!!!!
--born in Kenya
--actually 37.5% Arab.

M.V., Friday, 12 December 2008 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

i cant wait to read geir calling marcello racist

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 12 December 2008 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

thinking of imposing a "no white people" rule on my lists

even you're not that daft lex

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 12 December 2008 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Marcello to seek injunction (Developing...)

M.V., Friday, 12 December 2008 17:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

xps I got your back on this, daviday. Fucking Ladytron. Bollocks more like.

DavidM, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

via bleep email

1. Hudson Mohawke - Polyfolk Dance (Sampler) (Warp)
Available exclusively on Bleep.com for the next 5 weeks, this 2-track taster of electronic blips and chopped vocals displays an alarming forecast into the talents that this young Glaswegian producer holds. Already having attracted careful observation from media who still struggle to label the movement (Aqua Crunk?/ Wonky?); combine this with his recent signing to Warp, 2009 looks like it's going to be the year of the Mohawke.


2. Lone - Lemurian (Dealmaker)
Nottingham's Matt Cutler dropped this ear tickling debut with a coolness that few matched in '08. Brimming with heavily compressed beats that fidget and ache and groove against a miasma of aqua-sonics and soul-drenched samples; if this has been the year of the wonk then Lemurian stands proud as one of its more intriguing documents. At once disconcerting and beatific, Lemurian's shoegazing loveliness is THE unique take on the sound of tomorrow.


3. Eero Johannes - Eero Johannes (Planet Mu)
Playful space-disco meets toy-town dubstep may sound horrific but Planet Mu's latest signing delivered us a caffeine frenzy magnum opus, high on invention. Across fourteen analogue coated cuts, cosmic highlife and genre tennis a-plenty ..Johannes has more melodies per minute than ten-long players cooped up in a busy pop-factory.


4. Tape - Luminarium (Hapna)
Sublime bedroom minimalism from the Swedish band, fluttering and floating into the ears like nothing else this year. Once the opening crackle and shimmering guitar trails of opening track 'Beams' is torched, Luminarium glows through sixty minutes of lush arrangements, ghostly field recordings and a cornucopia of treated acoustic instruments. Beautiful.


5. The Bug - Poison Dart (Ninja Tune)
2008's most explosive record, veteran producer Kevin Martin has comfortably crafted his finest work to date. A phuture masterpiece, London Zoo frazzles and sparks with apocalyptic rage, post-millennial tension and subsonic monster beats. No other release this year has brought together stomping lyrical resonance(in the shape of some prime M.C talent) politico-dancehall grooves and bashment boogie with such skill. In years to come London Zoo WILL become a seminal record, for the meantime just buy it on bleep.


6. Rustie - Zig Zag (Wireblock)
If you are like us, then you probably remember the first time you heard this song. Definitely not a background-music tune, Zig-Zag drags the choke-held listener through an electronic soundtrack to Apocalypse, only intensified by chord changes every time you feel you might get a chance to breathe. The Terminator soundtrack on crack.


7. Flying Lotus - L.A. EP 2 X 3 (Warp)
Following on from one of the best albums of 2008, this EP is a hand-picked selection of Flying Lotus' favourite producers to re-work tracks off the seminal Los Angeles LP. It is a selection of the freshest producers around today re-piecing together the soundbytes of FlyLo's well-inked musical stamp for 2008. Essential.


8. Toob - Push Me, Pull You (Process)
One half of Red Snapper, Richard Thair teamed up with Jake Williams for this, their glorious second album under the Toob moniker. Oscillating wildly through the genres Push Me, Pull You is a must for fans of cosmic-krautrock rhythms, crunchy breaks, 80s new-wave and keyboard hooks from every corner. Underpinning the technicolor are wonderfully deadpan vocals and subversively skewed pop-melodies. The left-field pop album of the year.


9. Loco Dice - 7 Dunham Place (Desolat)
Lush minimal techno from downtown Brooklyn that squarely confronts the genre with a freshness of approach that zings and pings its way into your consciousness. Hooky piano stabs, densely textured programming and cut-up musique-concrete mean ... Dunham Place's Nuyorican flavour attacks both the dancefloor and the heads in equal measure.


10. Ratatat - LP3 (XL Recordings)
Unimaginatively titled, but a box of kooky treasures, as you might have come to expect from Ratatat. Crying out for some ad syncs, it is both thoughtful and calm but with some more developed sounds than before, particularly the Spanish influences that come out on Gipsy Threat and Mi Viejo.

djmartian, Friday, 12 December 2008 17:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Resident Advisor's Top 15 Remixes:
01. Ricardo Villalobos - Minimoonstar (Shackleton Remix) [Perlon]
02. Sebbo - Watamu Beach (Moritz von Oswald Rework) [Desolat]
03. Hercules & Love Affair - Blind (Frankie Knuckles Vocal) [DFA]
04. Sascha Funke - Mango Cookie (DJ Koze's Pink Moon Rmx) [BPitch Control]
05. Matias Aguayo - Minimal (DJ Koze Mix) [Kompakt]
06. Sascha Dive - Deepest America (Moodymann Remix) [Ornaments]
07. TRG - Broken Heart (Martyn's DCM Remix) [Hessle Audio]
08. Mlle Caro & Franck Garcia - Dead Souls (Radio Slave Long Distance Kiss Remix) [Buzzin' Fly]
09. Ane Brun - Headphone Silence (Henrik Schwarz Remix / Dixon Edit) [Objektivity]
10. Kevin Saunderson feat. Inner City - Good Love (Luciano Remix) [KMS]
11. Radio Slave - Grindhouse (Dubfire Terror Planet Remix) [Rekids]
12. Vladislav Delay - Recovery IDea (Andy Stott Remix) [Semantica]
13. Sety - Mogane (Guillaume & The Coutu Dumonts Remix) [Circus Company]
14. Shackleton - Death Is Not Final (T++ Remix) [Skull Disco]
15. Dave Aju - Crazy Place (Luciano «Likuid» Remix) [Circus Company]

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=996

Matos W.K., Friday, 12 December 2008 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Really hoping Marcello pipes up again so I can post that Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder pic.

Matos W.K., Friday, 12 December 2008 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I will never get why everyone is loving this Flying Lotus so much

shipley's believe it or not (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 12 December 2008 18:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Billboard critics' top 10s:

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/yearend/2008/news/billboard-critic-choice-top-10.shtml

xhuxk, Friday, 12 December 2008 18:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've been kind of surprised at the high placement of Bon Iver on like 90% of these lists. I was aware of the guy but never really heard many people talk about him in 2008.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Friday, 12 December 2008 18:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

from the billboard link:

the man that ruined Melody Maker : Mark Sutherland:

He still likes rubbish music: Ting Tings, Glasvegas, Katy Perry, Oasis

MARK SUTHERLAND
Billboard international bureau chief

1. The Ting Tings, "We Started Nothing" (Columbia). Pop wolves in indie sheep's clothing, or possibly the other way round. Either way, 2008 was way more fun for having them around.
2. Weezer, "Weezer" (DGC/Interscope). Aka "The Red Album," Rivers Cuomo's genius still sounds great in any color.
3. Glasvegas, "Glasvegas" (Columbia). Big, affecting, proper music from the year's most exciting alt-rock discovery. The new Oasis, anyone?
4. The Last Shadow Puppets, "The Age of the Understatement" (Domino). Alex Turner's Arctic Monkeys sabbatical may just be the best side project ever.
5. Those Dancing Days, "In Our Space Hero Suits" (Wichita). Five Swedish girls who sound like your favorite indie pop group playing 1960s girl groups' greatest hits. What's not to be totally smitten by?
6. Duffy, "Rockferry" (A&M/Polydor). The British voice of 2008.
7. Oasis, "Dig Out Your Soul" (Big Brother). Sounding angry for the first time since, ooh, they were turned away from the Groucho Club in 1996, probably, and all the better for it. The old Glasvegas, anyone?
8. Elbow, "The Seldom Seen Kid" (Fiction/Polydor). That rarest of beasts: a Mercury Prize-winning album that actually deserved it.
9. R.E.M., "Accelerate" (Warner Bros). The sound of a giant awakening from a 16-year slumber and knocking out a doozy of a garage rock album in about half an hour. Sometimes, fairy tales do come true.
10. Katy Perry, "One of the Boys" (Virgin). She made a record and I liked it. It felt so wrong, it felt so right. 2008 in a nutshell.

djmartian, Friday, 12 December 2008 19:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Glad to see DJ Martian still carries a grudge against Melody Maker being ruined.

Matos W.K., Friday, 12 December 2008 19:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Big, affecting, proper music .. "

so thats what proper music sounds like. been wondering about that all year.

mark e, Friday, 12 December 2008 19:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

9. R.E.M., "Accelerate" (Warner Bros). The sound of a giant awakening from a 16-year slumber and knocking out a doozy of a garage rock album in about half an hour. Sometimes, fairy tales do come true.

lolz

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 12 December 2008 19:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bon Iver xgau's Dud of the Month and richly deserved (frost flowers in nosebeard of slo-mo farmhand, yum)

dow, Friday, 12 December 2008 19:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

geir showing up during the marcello argument was like a presidential cameo on snl

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 19:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

when did geir show up?

The strawman from the hilarious 'ilx' race threads (some dude), Friday, 12 December 2008 19:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sometimes fairy tales do come true.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 12 December 2008 19:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

It is a well-known fact that most albums released in December are usually either "best of" compilations or crowded with songs about Santa, reindeers, Christmas trees, snow and mistletoes.....

― Geir Hongro, Friday, December 12, 2008 9:23 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

much like a presidential cameo it was largely a let-down, but it was the thought that counted

the chef (emeril lagasse ha ha) (J0rdan S.), Friday, 12 December 2008 19:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^^Geir's contribution to this thread encapsulated

Seanadams Molloy (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 12 December 2008 19:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Guys I missed all of Marcello's racist nonsense and am going back in time to say that, while I can barely bring myself to care about these lists anymore, that DiS intro was possibly the worst thing I've read in my entire life.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 12 December 2008 19:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Blog Said the Gramophone have posted their 50 best songs of 2008. I love this one:

http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/best_songs_of_2008.php

Moka, Friday, 12 December 2008 21:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

omg that youtube

k3vin k., Friday, 12 December 2008 21:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Other Music best of 08 topped by El Guincho, Crystal Stilts, Grouper ...

http://www.othermusic.com/2008december11update.html

dmr, Friday, 12 December 2008 21:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork Top 50 countdown starts

Surprised to see Weezy that low, and I've never even heard of See You In Court. Any good?

Flo-Rida and the Machine (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

was that supposed to be a rickroll? The page is broken.

Moka, Friday, 12 December 2008 21:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

See You In Court is awesome

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 December 2008 21:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've never heard Living Colour but I find TVotR boring, so I'm intrigued by this. I still don't understand why the response to Marcello's original post and visual gag was so angry and inspired such a long argument. I think the lady doth protest too much.

Cunga, Friday, 12 December 2008 22:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Aftenposten scrapped their English language website recently, so only Geir can read the blurbs.

But they never had many English language articles on music, did they?

Anyway... Not much to comment otherwise. Marcello is Marcello. The Lex is The Lex. Nothing new....

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

And I am not too impressed by those lists myself, but that is because 2008 wasn't a particularly good vintage, not because the lists are seriously wrong. The American dominance is actually deserved, which says more about the current state of British music. The old names are still great, but they need some new names that are a bit less "rock".

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

(And still song-oriented and melodic, needless to say)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 12 December 2008 23:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

boooooooooooring

Moka, Saturday, 13 December 2008 00:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.largeheartedboy.com/blog/archive/2008/11/2008_yearend_on_1.html lots of lists

curmudgeon, Saturday, 13 December 2008 06:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Other Music best of 08 topped by El Guincho, Crystal Stilts, Grouper ...

that el guincho album is pretty good. surprised it's not more widely cited. seems like it could've at least gotten the slot reserved for manu chao or congotronics or something.

tipsy mothra, Saturday, 13 December 2008 06:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yep, everytime I return to El Guincho it seems like I am hearing it for the first time... in a good way.

Surprised the Dig Lazarus isn't on more lists. It'll be in my Top Five and it's almost nowhere to be seen.

harry the taoist, Saturday, 13 December 2008 06:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's on virtually every list!

Matt DC, Saturday, 13 December 2008 16:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's even a separate ilx thread with people grumbling that's overrated and they don't understand why it is showing up on so many lists

curmudgeon, Saturday, 13 December 2008 16:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://trustedadvisor.com/public/Image/Ostrich%20head%20in%20sand%20small.jpg

Dig Harry Dig!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 13 December 2008 16:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Irony... a fading gift.

harry the taoist, Saturday, 13 December 2008 19:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Vibe's Top 80 Songs:

80. Joe Budden ft. Joell Ortiz, Nino Bless, Crooked-I & Royce Da 5'9", "Slaughterhouse" (Amalgam)
79. Duffy, "Mercy" (Mercury)
78. MGMT ft. Jim Jones, "Electric Feel (Remix)" (mixtapes)
77. Sheek Louch, "Good Love" (Koch)
76. Mr. Vegas, "Tek Weh Yuh Self" (Delicious Vinyl)
75. Danity Kane, "Damaged" (Bad Boy/Atlantic)
74. G Unit ft. Young Buck, "Rider, Pt. 2" (G Unit/Shady/Aftermath)
73. Tricky, "Puppy Toy" (Domino)
72. Red Cafe ft. 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Fabolous, "Paper Touchin' (Remix)" (mixtapes)
71. Mariah Carey, "Touch My Body" (Island)

70. Leona Lewis, "Bleeding Love" (J)
69. Ciara ft. T-Pain, "Go Girl" (LaFace/Zomba)
68. Busta Rhymes ft. Ron Browz, "Arab Money" (Flipmode/Universal Motown)
67. Keri Hilson ft. Lil Wayne, "Turnin' Me On" (Mosley Music/Interscope)
66. Esperanza Spalding, "She Got to You" (Heads Up)
65. Charles Hamilton, "Brooklyn Girls" (mixtape)
64. Hot Stylz ft. Yung Joc, "Lookin Boy" (mixtapes)
63. Slim ft. Jadakiss & Freeway, "So Fly (Remix)" (mixtapes)
62. Yung L.A. ft. Young Dro & T.I., "Ain't I (Remix)" (mixtapes)
61. Chris Brown, "Take You Down" (Jive/Zomba)

60. Beyonce, "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)" (Music World/Columbia)
59. Solange, "I Decided Pt. 1" (Music World/Geffen)
58. David Banner ft. Chris Brown and Yung Joc, "Get Like Me" (SRC/Universal Motown)
57. Lloyd ft. Lil Wayne, "Girls Around the World" (The Inc./Universal Motown)
56. Al Green ft. John Legend, "Stay with Me (By the Sea)" (Blue Note)
55. Rocko ft. Young Jeezy, T.I., Boo & Big Kuntry King, "Umma Do Me (Remix)" (mixtapes)
54. Portishead, "Threads" (Island)
53. Wale, "The Crazy" (mixtape)
52. Rihanna, "Don't Stop the Music" (Def Jam)
51. Rich Boy, "Chevy a Monsta" (mixtape)

50. Rick Ross ft. Nelly & Avery Storm, "Here I Am" (Slip-N-Slide/Def Jam)
49. Young Jeezy ft. Nas, "My President" (CTE/Def Jam)
48. Keyshia Cole, "Heaven Sent" (Geffen)
47. Coldplay, "Viva La Vida" (EMI)
46. Swizz Beatz, "That Oprah" (mixtapes)
45. New Kids on the Block ft. Ne-Yo, "Single" (Interscope)
44. Mavado, "So Special" (VP)
43. Bloc Party, "Mercury" (Vice)
42. Jim Jones & Ron Browz ft. Juelz Santan, "Pop Champagne" (Byrd Gang/Columbia)
41. The-Dream, "I Luv Your Girl" (Def Jam)

40. T.I., "What Up, What's Haapnin'" (Grand Hustle/Atlantic)
39. Trina, "Single Again" (Slip-N-Slide)
38. Raphael Saadiq, "Oh Girl" (Columbia)
37. TV on the Radio, "Golden Age" (Interscope)
36. Ray J ft. Yung Berg, "Sexy Can I" (Koch)
35. Maxwell, "Pretty Wings" (Columbia)
34. Webbie ft. Lil Boosie and Lil' Phat, "Independent" (Trill/Asylum)
33. Alicia Keys, "Teenage Love Affair" (J)
32. Plies ft. Ne-Yo, "Bust It Baby Pt. 2" (Big Gates/Slip-N-Slide/Atlantic)
31. Maino ft. T.I., Swizz Beatz, Plies, Jadakiss & Fabolous, "Hi Haters (Remix)" (mixtapes)

30. Mario, "Music for Love" (J)
29. Jordin Sparks ft. Chris Brown, "No Air" (Jive)
28. Kid Cudi, "Day N Nite" (mixtape)
27. T.I. ft. Rihanna, "Live Your Life" (Grand Hustle/Atlantic)
26. Usher ft. Lil Wayne & Beyonce, "Love in This Club Pt. 2" (LaFace/Zomba)
25. Erykah Badu, "Me" (Universal Motown)
24. Lil Wayne, "Dr. Carter" (Cash Money)
23. Mary J. Blige, "Just Fine" (Geffen)
22. Nas, "Queens Get the Money" (Def Jam)
21. John Legend ft. Andre 3000, "Green Light" (G.O.O.D./Columbia)

20. Big Boi ft. Andre 3000 & Raekwon, "Royal Flush" (Jive/LaFace)
19. The Roots ft. Wale, "Rising Up" (Def Jam)
18. Shawty Lo ft. Ludacris, Young Jeezy, Hunt, Akon, Red Cafe, Plies & Lil Wayne, "Dey Know (Remix)" (mixtapes)
17. Robin Thicke, "Magic" (Star Trak/Interscope)
16. Lupe Fiasco ft. Matthew Santos, "Superstar" (1st & 15th/Atlantic)
15. Ryan Leslie ft. Cassie & Fabolous, "Addiction" (Next Selection/Universal Motown)
14. Jay-Z, "Roc Boys (And the Winner Is . . . )" (Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam)
13. Kanye West, "Love Lockdown" (Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam)
12. T.I. ft. Kanye West, Jay-Z & Lil Wayne, "Swagga Like Us" (Grand Hustle/Atlantic)
11. Gnarls Barkley, "Who's Gonna Save My Soul" (Atlantic)

10. Santogold, "Creator" (Downtown)
9. Flo Rida ft. T-Pain, "Low" (Atlantic)
8. Jazmine Sullivan, "Need U Bad" (J)
7. Ne-Yo, "Closer" (Def Jam)
6. Snoop Dogg, "Sexual Eruption" (Geffen)
5. T-Pain ft. Lil Wayne, "Can't Believe It" (Konvict)
4. Estelle ft. Kanye West, "American Boy" (Atlantic)
3. Young Jeezy ft. Kanye West, "Put On" (CTE/Def Jam)
2. Lil Wayne, "A Milli" (Cash Money)
1. Lil Wayne ft. Static Major, "Lollipop" (Cash Money)

Matos W.K., Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

That's the best list I've seen yet.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

14. Jay-Z, "Roc Boys (And the Winner Is . . . )" (Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam)

o come on

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

the top 20 ain't bad but let's remember that they named the fabolous/ne-yo song the #1 single of 2007

merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol yeah i was just looking back at last year's list because there are so many super old songs like "Roc Boys" that i felt like they must have slipped and listed some songs 2 years in a row

Piney G. Pinefoxen (some dude), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

this list is funny too because unlike the indie rock lists where tv on the radio is #1 and lil wayne is thrown in seemingly at random, on here it's the other way around

merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

50. Rick Ross ft. Nelly & Avery Storm, "Here I Am" (Slip-N-Slide/Def Jam)
49. Young Jeezy ft. Nas, "My President" (CTE/Def Jam)
48. Keyshia Cole, "Heaven Sent" (Geffen)
47. Coldplay, "Viva La Vida" (EMI)
46. Swizz Beatz, "That Oprah" (mixtapes)
45. New Kids on the Block ft. Ne-Yo, "Single" (Interscope)
44. Mavado, "So Special" (VP)
43. Bloc Party, "Mercury" (Vice)
42. Jim Jones & Ron Browz ft. Juelz Santan, "Pop Champagne" (Byrd Gang/Columbia)
41. The-Dream, "I Luv Your Girl" (Def Jam)

^^i truly don't know what to make of this group of 10 - please send help

merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

top ten is solid-ish, im not a big fan of "low" but obv it was huge and i think that santogold-apes-MIA song is really stupid-sounding even tho i like her, but otherwise its good -- the next ten are pretty wtf. Gnarls barkley? who tf is still listening to that? i dont know how many people voted but it seems odd that its that high. also i couldnt stand 'superstar' -- if yr gonna do old lupe fiasco songs 'dumb it down' and 'hip hop saved me' are both way better

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

― merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

50. Rick Ross ft. Nelly & Avery Storm, "Here I Am" (Slip-N-Slide/Def Jam)
49. Young Jeezy ft. Nas, "My President" (CTE/Def Jam)
48. Keyshia Cole, "Heaven Sent" (Geffen)
47. Coldplay, "Viva La Vida" (EMI)
46. Swizz Beatz, "That Oprah" (mixtapes)
45. New Kids on the Block ft. Ne-Yo, "Single" (Interscope)
44. Mavado, "So Special" (VP)
43. Bloc Party, "Mercury" (Vice)
42. Jim Jones & Ron Browz ft. Juelz Santan, "Pop Champagne" (Byrd Gang/Columbia)
41. The-Dream, "I Luv Your Girl" (Def Jam)

^^i truly don't know what to make of this group of 10 - please send help

― merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hahahha

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha but probably a good 65 songs on there are bangers - the rest is just totally wtf, which i guess is good in a way

merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

otoh should you be rewarded for listing all the good songs on the radio?

merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

i definitely give them credit for listing good radio songs that get ignored on most every other list. also i seriously doubt that that list was 'voted' on rather than just kind of assembled by committee and intensely strategized. i mean they probably had to bend over backwards to get that whole 'year of wayne and kanye' top 5, which is my least favorite part...i mean there's something to be said for tokenism when it means just letting an artist be represented once or twice in a top 10.

Piney G. Pinefoxen (some dude), Sunday, 14 December 2008 06:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

weird mavado pick...'on the rock' is much better than 'so special'. obv the first list i've seen that i've enjoyed, even with the wtfisms.

a pity they went for mediocre lead singles to represent some artists though...eg i like 'just fine' just fine but 'roses' is surely loads more outstanding even though it was an album track? and if even rolling stone can bring itself to recognise random ciara leaked tracks, surely vibe doesn't need to choose the mediocre 'go girl' above 'high price', 'echo' or 'work'?

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 December 2008 10:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

78. MGMT ft. Jim Jones, "Electric Feel (Remix)" (mixtapes)

^^hang on wtf is this

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 December 2008 10:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha file that under "lol @ jim jones"

merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 10:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

there are some wtf choices that i kind of understand (lol all rappers love coldplay) but i can't think up one reason why vibe magazine would feel the need to include far and away the worst bloc part song of all time - they don't even have name cache or anything anymore

merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 14 December 2008 10:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha isnt there a thread on that redic remix

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Vibe don't have a clue obv. And including Coldplay in such a list is just bullshit as then Coldplay should have been on top. Coldplay are obviously objectively way better than any R&B, hip-hop or dance will ever be.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

AAAAAAGH STFU GEIR

emil.y, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought it was a joke. Was it not a joke?

GamalielRatsey, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

geir dropping knowledge

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

:D

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

Predictable opinions from Geir. The gift that keeps on giving...

curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

What on earth is that particular Portishead song doing in there though?

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

OMG that Geir aftershave!

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Metal Geir Solid

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Anyway... Not much to comment otherwise. Marcello is Marcello. The Lex is The Lex. Nothing new....

Have to chuckle at Geir calling someone out for being dogmatic and predictable.

Billy Dods, Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Power of Norway

HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 14 December 2008 14:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

This scent reflects the power of Norway and captures the cool freshness of the crisp Norwegian mountains and the warm scent of exotic herbs and spices. 3.4 oz.

Go Go Padgett Binoculars (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Sunday, 14 December 2008 15:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

there are some wtf choices that i kind of understand (lol all rappers love coldplay) but i can't think up one reason why vibe magazine would feel the need to include far and away the worst bloc part song of all time - they don't even have name cache or anything anymore

― merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:44 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Two words:

Living Colour.

Piney G. Pinefoxen (some dude), Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

thank u sir

HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

gotta love waking up to a geir truth bomb

k3vin k., Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Geir Bombgro

Go Go Padgett Binoculars (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Is your lady's hair thinning? Buy Her Gwangro

HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

we are not scare mongro-ing
this is really happening

k3vin k., Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ladies love the cool scent of Geir.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Anyway... Not much to comment otherwise. Marcello is Marcello. The Lex is The Lex. Nothing new....

― Geir Hongro, Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM Bookmark

I think this may be the first time I've ever seen Geir acknowledge anyone else on this board exists.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ladies Love Cool Geir

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nice to see the Koen Holtkamp make WIRE's electronica list. Criminally overlooked, I tell you!

Z S, Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nice to see Esperanza Spaulding on the Vibe list. My favorite thing I've discovered today.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Sunday, 14 December 2008 16:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

discovered? DISCOVERED? oh rev

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 14 December 2008 18:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

that's why you gotta read your Cave17 yo

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 14 December 2008 18:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd actually forgotten about Cave 17! Thanks for reminding me, I should check that.

Matos W.K., Sunday, 14 December 2008 18:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

78. MGMT ft. Jim Jones, "Electric Feel (Remix)" (mixtapes)

^^hang on wtf is this

― lex pretend, Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:32 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Another track will be the remix to MGMT's "Electric Feel". Jim Jones said this to GQ.com about it

“They did a show (at United Palace Theater) up in Washington Heights, the initial conversation was just that it was an honor to meet them, I think they're kinna cool. And from there it lead into me saying, It'd be crazy if I remixed "Electric Feel". They were like, Yeah, that would be crazy. So I said, Let me get the beats and shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pray_IV_Reign

Piney G. Pinefoxen (some dude), Sunday, 14 December 2008 18:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

what a great fuckin story

ohhhh we pop champagne (deej), Sunday, 14 December 2008 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Great Story, Katie Holmes Jim Jones!"

It is the farewell kiss, you dog! (some dude), Sunday, 14 December 2008 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Matos we're gonna do a top 20 and some other stuff in the next week, stay tuned

Everyone else what's up, I'm back kinda

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 14 December 2008 20:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Clash Magazine

40. The Last Shadow Puppets - The Age Of Understatement
39. Cadenie Weapon - Afterparty Babies
38. Adele - 19
37. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!
36. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
35. Killers - Day & Age
34. No Age - Nouns
33. Eiene Kliene Nacht Musik - s/t
32. Primal Scream - Beautiful Future
31. British Sea Power - Do You Like Rock Music?
30. Friendly Fires - s/t
29. Why? - Alopecia
28. Hercules & Love Affair - s/t
27. My Morning Jacket - Evil Urges
26. Wild Beasts - Limbo Panto
25. Fleet Foxes - s/t
24. Hot Chip - Made In The Dark
23. Emiliana Torrini - Me & Armini
22. Dr. Dog - Fate
21. Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
20. Neon Neon - Stainless Style
19. Mystery Jets - Twenty One
18. Oasis - Dig Out Your Soul
17. Deerhunter - Microcastle
16. Aliens - Luna
15. Portishead - Third
14. Coldplay - Viva La Vida...
13. MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
12. White Denim - Workout Holiday
11. Laura Marling - Alas, I Cannot Swim
10. The Bug - London Zoo
9. Gang Gang Dance - 'Saint Dymphna'
8. Santogold - s/t
7. TV On The Radio - Dear Science
6. Elbow - The Seldom Seen Kid
5. Benga - Diary Of An Afro Warrior
4. Foals - Antidotes
3. Late Of The Pier - Fantasy Black Channel
2. Vampire Weekend - s/t
1. Kings Of Leon - Only By The Night

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 15 December 2008 03:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Culturedeluxe - The Top 50 Albums of 2008
http://www.culturedeluxe.com/news_item.asp?id=5291

Pop Matters - Best Metal Albums of 2008
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/66667-the-best-metal-albums-of-2008/

That's a pretty good metal list.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 15 December 2008 04:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rolling Stone's Top 100 Singles

1. Beyonce, "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)"
2. Santogold, "L.E.S. Artistes"

OTM

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

More like "L.O.L. Artistes"

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

How can you dislike that song?! I mean, the chorus!

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Monday, 15 December 2008 04:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

What chorus? You seem to imply that there's some sort of hook there. I like it, just not that much.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Monday, 15 December 2008 05:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

i never thought a song could make me miss the real Gwen Stefani

J0rban Sarggest (some dude), Monday, 15 December 2008 05:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Not sure how it sounds like Gweni? More like YYYs. Would probably be better off sounding like the former.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Monday, 15 December 2008 05:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

See, there's this part where the music explodes into this massive, beautiful wave of like guitars, keyboards and ahhhs. And then Santogold joins in: "I can say I hope it will be worth what I give up..."

That's called a "chorus" and, in this case, it's really gorgeous.

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Monday, 15 December 2008 05:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

opinions4me

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Monday, 15 December 2008 05:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Anyway, Tape Store, I was more trying to make a cheap joke than express any coherent opinion. Lighten up, folk.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Monday, 15 December 2008 05:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

really hard to not see inclusion of Primal Scream, Oasis, Adele, Coldplay and even the KoL and Killers albums on that Clash list as just record label appeasement

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Monday, 15 December 2008 11:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Vibe list is imperfect in places but it's the best list I've seen on this thread so far.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 15 December 2008 11:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Including the Primal Scream record on any EOY list seems charitable in the extreme.

Dorianlynskey, Monday, 15 December 2008 11:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

Resident Advisor needs to hurry the fuck up and get its lists out. I'm predicting an album win for Shedding The Past and deservedly so, but the singles list always throws up amazing stuff I've never knowingly heard.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 December 2008 12:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm curious about that Shed record but there doesn't seem to be a thread about it.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 15 December 2008 12:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Here are the top albums of 2008 chosen by Helsingin Sanomat, our biggest newspaper, it's a mix of Finnish and foreign albums:

http://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/artikkeli/HS+listasi+kuluneen+vuoden+kiitellyimm%C3%A4t+levyt/1135241971157

(The blurbs are only available in Finnish.)

Tuomas, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Here's the Helsingin Sanomat list without the blurbs:

Sam Amidon: All Is Well
Erykah Badu: New Amerykah, Part One
Buika: Niña de fuego
Children of Bodom: Blooddrunk
Coldplay: Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends
Cut Copy: In Ghost Colours
Dans les arbres: Dans les arbres
Toumani Diabaté: The Mandé Variations
Dido: Safe Trip Home
Duffy: Rockferry
Eleanoora Rosenholm: Älä kysy kuolleilta, he sanoivat
Fleet Foxes: Fleet Foxes
Glasvegas: Glasvegas
Hercules and Love Affair: Hercules and Love Affair
Herra Ylppö & Ihmiset: Sata vuotta
Frida Hyvönen: Silence Is Wild
Johanna Iivanainen & 1N: Outoja maita
Iiwanajulma: Tuhottu tila
Mikko Innanen: F60.8. Ilma Records
Verneri Pohjola & Joonas Riippa: Michelin Star
Ismo Alanko Teholla: Blanco Spirituals
Bon Iver: For Emma, Forever Ago
Kiki Pau: Let's Rock
Kuusumun Profeetta: Lyhtykuja
M83: Saturdays = Youth
Mariza: Terra
MGMT: Oracular Spectacular
Melingo: Maldito Tango
Opeth: Watershed
Portishead: Third
The Raconteurs: Consolers of the Lonely
R.E.M.: Accelerate
Ruudolf: Born in the U.S.A.
Kauko Röyhkä & Riku Mattila: s/t
Sigur Rós: Með suð í eyrum við spilum endalaust
The Soundtrack of Our Lives: Communion
Bobo Stenson: Cantando
Stepa: MC
Sväng: Jarruta
Rokia Traoré: Tchamantché
Vampire Weekend: Vampire Weekend
Maija Vilkkumaa: Superpallo
Hank Williams III: Damn Right, Rebel Proud

Tuomas, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Resident Advisor's Top 20 Compilations: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=997

20. Carl Craig – Sessions [Studio !K7]
19. Adam Beyer - Fuse Presents... [Music Man Records]
18. VA - Circoloco @ DC10 - 10 Years Anniversary [Moon Harbour Recordings]
17. Matthew Dear - Body Language Vol. 7 [Get Physical Music]
16. Dave Clarke - Back in the Box [NRK Music]
15. Basic Channel - BCD-2 [Basic Channel]
14. Stefan Goldmann - The Transitory State [Macro]
13. Sascha Funke - Watergate 02 [Watergate]
12. Wighnomy Brothers - Metawuffmischfelge [Freude Am Tanzen]
11. VA - Soundboy's Gravestone Gets Desecrated by Vandals [Skull Disco]
10. Andy Stott - Unknown Exception: Selected Tracks Vol. 1 (2004 - 2008) [Modern Love]
09. Âme - Fabric 42 [Fabric]
08. Robert Hood - Fabric 39 [Fabric]
07. Gas - Nah und Fern [Kompakt]
06. Luciano - Fabric 41 [Fabric]
05. DJ /rupture - Uproot [The Agriculture]
04. Metro Area - Fabric 43 [Fabric]
03. Appleblim - Dubstep Allstars: Vol. 06 [Tempa]
02. Efdemin - Carry On, Pretend We're Not in the Room [Curle Recordings]
01. Marcel Dettmann - Berghain 02 [Ostgut Ton]

Matos W.K., Monday, 15 December 2008 14:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

kinda good, kinda sketchy list from MTV News' mixtape monday:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1601236/20081212/lil_wayne.jhtml

28 In '08: Commercially Released Hip-Hop Singles

1. Lil Wayne - "A Milli"
2. Kanye West - "Flashing Lights"
3. Shawty Lo - "Dunn Dunn"
4. M.I.A. - "Paper Planes"
5. Fat Joe (featuring J. Holiday) - "I Won't Tell"
6. T.I. (featuring Rihanna) - "Live Your Life"
7. Lil Wayne - "Lollipop"
8. Snoop Dogg - "Sexual Eruption"
9. Young Jeezy (featuring Nas) - "My President"
10. Rick Ross (featuring T-Pain) - "The Boss"
11. Plies (featuring Ne-Yo) - "Bust It Baby Pt. 2"
12. The Game (featuring Keyshia Cole) - "Game's Pain"
13. Young Jeezy (featuring Kanye West) - "Put On"
14. David Banner (featuring Chris Brown and Young Joc) - "Get Like Me"
15. Maino - "Hi Hater"
16. Shawty Lo - "Foolish"
17. Rick Ross (featuring Nelly) - "Here I Am"
18. T.I. - "Whatever You Like"
19. Lil Wayne (featuring Babyface) - "Comfortable"
20. The G-Unit - "Rider Pt. 2"
21. Busta Rhymes - "Don't Touch Me"
22. Lupe Fiasco - "Hip-Hop Saved My Life"
23. Jay-Z - "I Know"
24. Kanye West - "Heartless"
25. Lil Wayne (featuring Bobby Valentino) - "Mrs. Officer"
26. Red Cafe (featuring Fabolous, Fat Joe and Jadakiss) - "Paper Touching" remix
27. Ron Browz and Jim Jones (featuring Juelz Santana) - "Pop Champagne"
28. Busta Rhymes (featuring Ron Browz) - "Arab Money"

J0rban Sarggest (some dude), Monday, 15 December 2008 14:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Dunn Dunn" over "Foolish"? "I Won't Tell" in top 5!?

J0rban Sarggest (some dude), Monday, 15 December 2008 14:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork start their countdown
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/147998-the-100-best-tracks-of-2008

Number None, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh let's not even care about that one

lex pretend, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

04. Metro Area - Fabric 43

shows you what i know, bored me rotten that one.
tried several times - but never made it to the end - even though there is a devo track as a payoff treat.

mark e, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

For the sake of completeness

Number None, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

P/Fork - yet another website that needs to enrol in At A Glance classes.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 15 December 2008 14:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

the metro area fabric mix bored me as well - actually some of the mixes on the RA list are real head-scratchers. didn't think a great deal of the efdemin one either - my own favourite techno mixes of 08 were probably fuse presents deetron, ellen allien's boogybytes vol 4 and the robert hood fabric which made the RA list. the marcel dettmann one at no 1 was...ok, i guess? i have absolutely no idea what makes it the best mix of the year though.

lex pretend, Monday, 15 December 2008 14:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Pfork singles lists are usually pretty good for discovering a new song or two, IMHO

'cause i watch tv and DomPass cable (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 15 December 2008 15:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Eiene Kliene Nacht Musik is #50 in Au Magazine, #33 in Clash Magazine, and #1 in Culturdeluxe. Listening to it now, Krautrocking goodness.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 15 December 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Torygraph albums list was unexciting, but their Best Films Of 2008 list is wtf enough to deserve linking to:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/3776706/Best-films-of-2008-films-review-of-the-year.html

Jeff W, Monday, 15 December 2008 18:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm curious about that Shed record but there doesn't seem to be a thread about it.

There's no thread on it but there's a bit of discussion on the dance bobbins thread. It doesn't merit much of a thread because it's difficult to say much about it, but it is very good indeed - reminds me a bit of Selected Ambient Works-era Aphex Twin (both of them) and late period LFO but refracted through a minimal prism.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 December 2008 18:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

i never got into the shed album, though i do love 'etrange' or whatever the only track with any actual character is called near the end

i mean i kept hearing how it was like a "journey" or whatever but it wasn't a very exciting one.

lex pretend, Monday, 15 December 2008 18:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's a bit too drifty and ambient to be a journey, I don't know why people say that. Most of the tracks just hang there a bit, which I'm fine with but I didn't really think it would be your thing.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 December 2008 19:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't dislike it or anything but it's just strange that it seemed to be the consensus techno album of the year (anja motherfucking schneider, people - plus i thought catz'n'dogz, the mole and akiko kiyama were far more inventive & effective than shed)

lex pretend, Monday, 15 December 2008 19:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was a bit non plussed on the shed record but it gets better with a few listens.

no fennesz (assuming its a dealine thing) and one vampire weekend on the wire list is a bit of a shock

wire 2008 rewind
01. The Bug - London Zoo [Ninja Tune]
02. Philip Jeck - Sand [Touch]
03. The Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace [no label]
04. John Butcher - Resonant Spaces [Confront]
05. Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna [Social Registry]
06. The Advisory Circle - Other Channels [Ghost Box]
07. Evangelista - Hello, Voyager [Constellation]
08. William S. Burroughs - Real English Tea Made Here [Audio Research Editions]
09. The Fall - Imperial Wax Solvent [Sanctuary]
10. The Caretaker - Persistent Repetition of Phrases [Install]
11. Kevin Drumm - Imperial Distortion [Hospital Productions]
12. Ryoji Ikeda - Test Pattern [Raster-Noton]
13. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus, Dig!!! [Mute]
14. Eric Chenaux - Sloppy Ground [Constellation]
15. Kasai Allstars - In the 7th Moon, the Chief Turned Into a Swimming Fish and Ate the Head of His Enemy By Magic [Crammed Discs]
16. Autechre - Quaristice [Warp]
17. Dusk + Blackdown - Margins Music [Keysound]
18. Luomo - Convivial [Huume]
19. Bill Dixon - 17 Musicians In Search Of A Sound: Darfur [AUM Fidelity]
20. Stephan Mathieu - Radioland [Die Schachtel]
21. Lukas Ligeti - Afrikan Machinery [Tzadik]
22. Hercules & Love Affair - Hercules & Love Affair [DFA]
23. Group Inerane - Guitar From Agadez (Music of Niger) [Sublime Frequencies]
24. Jandek - Glasgow Sunday 2005 [Corwood]
25. Robert Ashley - Concrete [Lovely Music]
26. Tricky - Knowle West Boy [Domino]
27. Arthur Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me [Audika]
28. Scorces - I Turn Into You [Not Not Fun]
29. Earth - The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull [Southern Lord]
30. Terry Riley - The Last Camel In Paris [Elision Fields]
31. Malcom Goldstein - A Sounding of Sources [New World]
32. Christina Carter - Masque Femine [Many Breaths]
33. Stereo Image - s/t [Frog Man Jake]
34. Harvey Milk - Life... the Best Game In Town [Hydra Head]
35. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend [XL]
36. Emeralds - Solar Bridge [Hanson]
37. Maryanne Amacher - Sound Characters 2 [Tzadik]
38. Portishead - Third [Universal]
39. Toumani Diabate - The Mande Variations [World Circuit]
40. Jakob Ullmann - Voice, Books and FIRE 3 [Editions RZ]
41. David Grubbs - An Optimist Notes the Dust [Drag City]
42. Vajra - Live [PSF]
43. Murcof - The Versailles Sessions [Leaf]
44. Josephine Foster - This Coming Gladness [Bo' Weavil]
45. Peter Rehber - Works for GV 2004-2008 [Editions Mego]
46. Alva Noto - Unitxt [Raster-Noton]
47. Mark Stewart - Edit [Crippled Dick Hot Wax]
48. Sick Alps - US EZ [Siltbreeze]
49. Ellen Fullman & Monique Buzzarté - Fluctuations [Deep Listening]
50. Sao Paulo Underground - The Principle Of Intrusive Relationships [esthetics]

Avant Rock
Aufgehoben - Khora [Holy Mountain]
Burning Star Core - Challenger [Plastic/Hospital]
Birchville Cat Motel - Four Freckle Constellations [Conspiracy]
Black Mountain - In the Future [Jagjaguwar]
The Dead C - Secret Earth [Ba Da Bing]
Eat Skull - Sick To Death [Siltbreeze]
Fabulous Diamonds - Fabulous Diamonds [Siltbreeze]
Growing - All The Way [Social Registry]
Hair Police - Certainty Of Swarms [No Fun Productions]
The Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace [no label]
Hototogisu - Under the Rose [Blossoming Noise]
Religious Knives - Remains [No Fun Productions]
Scorces - I Turn Into You [Not Not Fun]
Alexander Tucker - Portal [ATP]
Valet - Naked Acid [Kranky]

Critical Beats
Louis Guillaume - Soulpoint [SD Records]
Joker & Rustie - Play Doe [Kapsize 12"]
King Midas Sound - Cool Out [Hyperdub 12"]
DJ Koze - I Want To Sleep [International Records Recordings 12"]
Martyn - Vancouver/Natural Selection [3024 12"]
Peverelist - Infinity Is Now/Junktion [Punch Drunk 12"]
Rustie - Zig Zag [Wireblock 12"]
Trim - Soulfood Vol. 3 [no label]
Scuba - Twitch (Jamie Vex'd Remix) [Hotflush 12"]
Shackleton - Death Is Not Final [Skull Disco 12"]
Shackleton - Soundboy's Suicide Note [Skull Disco 12"]
Skream - Skreamizm Vol. 4 [Tempa 2x12"]
Tobias - I Can't Fight The Feeling EP [Wagon Repair 12"]
Ricardo Villalobos - Vasco [Perlon 12"]
Ricardo Villalobos - Enfants [Si Es Drum 12"]

Electronica
Benge - Twenty Systems 1968-1988 [Expanding]
Blevin Blectum - Gular Flutter [Aagoo]
Bochum Welt - ROB [Rephlex]
Byetone - Death Of A Typographer [Raster-Noton]
Lawrence English - Kiri No Oto [Touch]
Flying Lotus - Los Angeles [Warp]
Koen Holtkamp - Field Rituals [Type]
Machinefabriek - Dauw [Dekorder]
Matmos - Supreme Balloon [Matador]
Move D - Drøne [Modern Love]
Theo Parrish - Sound Sculptures Vol. 1 [Sound Signature]
Max Richter - 24 Postcards In Full Colour [Fat Cat]
Schlammpeitziger - Schingstelle Für Rauschabzug [Sonig]
snd - 4, 5, 6 [snd]
Tape - Luminarium [Hapna]

Global
Les Amazones De Guinee - Wamato [Sterns]
Ammasu Akapoma Group - The Music Of Ammasu: Brong Ahasu, Ghana 1976 [Country & Eastern]
Balla Et Ses Balladins - The Syliphone Years [Sterns]
Sangeeta Bandyopadhyay - Pujo [Felmay]
Zerfu Demissie - Akotet [Terp]
Frank Denyer - Music For Shakuhachi [Another Timbre]
Group Inerane - Guitars From Agadez (Music of Niger) [Sublime Frequencies]
Kasai Allstars - In the 7th Moon... [Crammed]
Seant Kuti & Fela's Egypt 80 - Many Things [Tot Ou Tard]
Melingo - Maldito Tango [Naïve]
Rail Band - Mansa [Sterns]
Sam Shalabi - Eid [Alien8]
Amadou Sodia - Ca Va Se Savoir [Sterns]
Terakaft - AKh Issudar [IRL]
Umalali - The Garifuni Women's Project [Cumbancha]

Hiphop
Clipse presents Re-Up Gang - Clipse Presents Re-Up Gang [Koch]
Cool Kids - Winterfresh [no label]
Peedi Crakk - Welcome to Crakk's House [no label]
Giggs - Walk In Da Park [SN1]
Charles Hamilton - It's Charles Hamilton [no label]
Alicia Keys - Teenage Love Affair [J-Records]
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III [Cash Money/Universal]
Madlib - Madvillany 2 [Madlib]
MIA featuring Jay-Z
Boyz (Remix) [no label]
9th Wonder & Buckshot - The Formula [Duck Down]
Proton - Read & Purple Mixtape Volume 1 [no label]
Guilty Simpson - Ode to the Ghetto [Stones Throw]
TI featuring Kanye West, Jay-Z & Lil Wayne - Swagga Like Us [Grand Hustle]
Wale - The Mixtape About Nothing [no label]
Yo! Majesty - Futuristically Speaking...Never Be Afraid [Domino]

Jazz & Improv
Michael Adkins Quartet - Rotator [HatOLOGY]
Butcher/Muller/va der Schyff - Way Out Northwest [Drip Audio]
Charles/Grydeland/Wallumrød/Zach - Dans Les Arbres [ECM]
Bill Dixon with Exploding Star Orchestra - Bill Dixon with Exploding Star Orchestra [Thrill Jockey]
Barry Guy/Marilyn Crispell/Paul Lytton - Phases Of The Night [Intakt]
Mary Halvorson Trio - Dragon's Head [Firehouse 12]
Mazen Kerbaj/Birgit Uhler/Sharif Sehnaoui - 3:1 [Creative Sources]
K-Space - Infinity [Ad Hoc]
Ingrid Laubrock - Sleepthief [Intakt]
Chris McGregor Septet - Up To Earch [Fledg'ling]
Mike Osbourne - Force Of Nature [Reel Recordings]
William Parker - Double Sunrise Over Neptune [AUM Fidelity]
Howard Riley - Three Is One [ASC]
Franz Paul Schubert & Gunter 'Baby' Sommer - Hic Sunt Leones [Jazz Haus]
Seymour Wright - Seymor Wright Of Derby [no label]

Modern Composition
Robert Ashley - Concrete [Lovely Music]
Carrier Band - Voice Coil [Deep Listening]
Gloria Coates - Symphony No 15 [Naxos]
Anthony Coleman - Lapidation [New World]
Frank Denyer - Silenced Voices [Mode]
James Dillon - The Soadie Waste [NMC]
Ron George - The Floating Bubble [Innova]
Malcolm Goldstein - A Sounding Of Sources [New World]
Mauricio Kagel - Acustica [Zig Zag Territories]
Annea Lockwood - A Sound Map Of The Danube [Lovely Music]
Olivier Messiaen - Organ Works [Delphian]
Eliane Radigue - Chry-Ptus [Schoolmap]
Eliane Radigue - Naldjorlak [Shiiin]
'Blue' Gene Tyranny - The Somewhere Songs/The Invention Of Memory [Mutable]
Jakob Ullmann - Voice, Books and FIRE 3 [Edition RZ]

Outer Limits
AFCGT - AFCGT [no label]
Astral Social Club - Model Town In A Field Of Mud [Textile]
John Baker - The John Baker Tapes Vols 1 & 2 [Trunk]
Excepter - Debt Dept [Paw Tracks]
Ron Geesin - Biting The Hand: BBC Radio Broadcasts 1969-1975 [Hux]
G*Park - Reuters [Tochnit Aleph]
Russell Haswell - Second Live Salvage [Editions Mego]
The Hub - Boundary Layer [Tzadik]
Kikuri - Pulverised Purple [Victo]
Jacob Kirkegaard - Labyrinthitis [Touch]
Richard Skelton - Marking Time [Preservation]
sh*t and Shine - Küss Mich, Meine Liebe [Load]
Howard Steltzer - Bond Inlets [Intransitive]
Volcano The Bear - Amidst The Noise and Twigs [Beta-Lactam Ring]
Zeitkratzer - Electronics [Zeitkratzer]

Dub Top 10
Jimmy Radway & The Fe Me Time Allstars - Dub I [Pressure Sounds]
Johnny Osbourne - Truth & Rights [Heartbeat/Studio One]
Augustus Pablo - The Mystic World Of Augustus Pablo: The Rockers Story [Shanachie]
Deadbeat - Roots & Wire [Wagon Repair]
Culture - Culture & The Deejays At Joe Gibbs 1977-79 [17 North Parade]
Gussie P - Roots & Dub Vol 1 [Sip A Cup]
Henry & Louis - Increments [2 Kings]
Pale Rider - Listen Keenly [Cassava Outernational]
Vibronics - UK Dub Story [Scoops]
The Might Diamonds - The Mighty Diamonds Inna De Yard [Inna De Yard]

Size Matters Top 10
Little Claw - Why Not [Physical Sewer 7"]
Screw - Bans Of The River [Shagrat 10"]
Billy Childish & The Musicians Of the British Empire Vs Halo Of Flies [Amphetamine Reptile 7"]
Elisa Ambrogio & Karl Bauer - Yankee Psychic Hygene [Spirit of Orr 7"]
Zaimph - Bird Of Prey [Arbor 7"]
United Light - Untitled [Alt Vinyl 8"]
Martin Creed - Ooh [Smart Guy/White Columns]
Lightning Strike Lightning - The Moon [L'Animaux Tryst 7"]
Zola Jesus - Poor Sons [Die Stasi 7"]
Anals - Commando Of Love [Sweet Rot 7"]

Compilations
African Scream Contests: Raw & Psychedelic Afro Sounds From 70s Benin & Togo [Analog Africa]
An Anthology Of Noise & Electronic Music: Fith A-Chronology [Sub Rosa]
An England Story: The Culture Of The MC In The UK 1984-2008 [Soul Jazz]
Art Of Field Recording Vol 1 [Dust To Digital]
Bollywood Steel Guitar [Sublime Frequencies]
Eccentric Soul: The Tragar & Note Labels [Numero Group]
Disco Italia: Essential Italo Disco Classics 1977-1985 [Strut]
Discovered: A Collection Of Daft Punk Samples [Rapster]
Dreams Come True: Classic First Wave Electro 1982-1987 [Domino]
Dubstep Allstars Vol 6: Mixed By Appleblim [Tempa]
Fabric 39: Robert Hood [Fabric]
Give Me Love: Songs Of The Brokenhearted Bahgdad 1925-1929 [Honest Jon's]
Last Kind Words 1926-1953 [Mississippi]
Life Is A Problem [Mississippi]
Living Is Hard: West African Music In Britain 1927-1929 [Honest Jon's]
Love, Peace & Poetry: Chilean Psychedelic Music [Normal]
Mary Anne Hobbs Presents Evangeline [Planet Mu]
Messthetics Greatest Hiss: Classics Of UK Cassette Culture DIY 1979-1982 [Hyped to Death]
Nigeria 70: Lagos Jump [Strut]
Nigeria Disco Funk Special: The Sound Of the Underground Lagos Dancefloor 1974-1979 [Soundway]
Nigeria Rock Special: Psychedelic Afro-Rock & Fuzz Funk in 1970s Nigeria [Soundway]
Oh, Run Into Me, But Don't Hurt Me: Female Blues Singers Rarities 1923-1930 [Sub Rosa]
Rough Trade Shops: Counter Culture 07 [Counter Culture]
Shadow Music Of Thailand [Sublime Frequencies]
Sleeping Bag Records: Greatest 12" Mixes [Sleeping Bag/Acrobat]
Sprigs of Time: 78s From the EMI Archive [Honest Jon's]
Steppa's Delight [Soul Jazz]
The Very Best Of Hugh Tracey [SWP]
Victrola Favorites: Artifacts From Bygone Days [Dust To Digital]
Wierd Compilation Vol 2: Analogue Electronic Music 2008 [Wierd]

Reissues
23 Skidoo - Seven Songs [LTM]
808 State - Quadrastate [ZTT]
A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology [A Guy Called Gerald Music]
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 1985-1992 [R&S]
Arabian Prince - Innovative Life: The Anthology 1984-1989 [Stones Throw]
Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Les Stances A Sophie [Soul Jazz]
Kevin Ayers - Songs For Insane Times: Anthology 1969-1980 [Island]
Basic Channel - BCD2 [Basic Channel]
Jorge Ben - Jorge Ben (1969) [Dusty Groove]
The Blue Notes - The Ogun Collection [Ogun]
Anthony Braxton - Complete Arista Recordings [Mosaic]
Anne Briggs - Anne Briggs [Water]
Burzum - Anthology [Candlelight]
Ornette Coleman - The Croydon Concert [Free Factory]
Shirly & Dolly Collins - The Harvest Years [EMI]
Kid Creole - Going Places: The August Darnell Years 1974-1983 [Strut]
Dredd Foole - Kissing the Contemporary Bliss [Family Vineyard]
Fripp & Eno - No Pussyfooting [DGM/Panegyric]
Gas - Nah Und Fern [Kompakt]
Harry Pussy - You'll Never Play This Town Again: Live Etc. 1997 [Load]
Thomas Leer - Contradictions [Cherry Red]
Liquid Liquid - Slip In And Out Of Phenomenon [Domino]
Loop - Heaven's End [Reactor]
Ewan MacColl/Charles Parker/Peggy Seeger - Radio Ballads [Topic]
Chris McGregor Group - Very Urgent [Fledg'ling]
Model 500 - Classics [R&S]
Grachan Moncur III - Evolution [Blue Note]
Conlon Nancarrow - Studies For Player Piano [Other Minds]
Orchestre Poly-Rythmo De Cotonou - The Voudon Effect: Funk & Sata From Benin's Obscure Labels 1973-1975 [Analog Africa]
Mike Osbourne Trio - The Willisau Concert [Ogun]
Evan Parker - Conic Sections [Psi]
Bernard Parmegiani - L'Oeuvre Musicale [INA]
Washington Phillips - What Are They Doing In Heaven Today? [Mississippi]
Pole - 1 2 3 [~scape]
Ragga Twins - Ragga Twins Step Out [Soul Jazz]
Skullflower - IIIrd Gatekeeper [Crucial Blast]
Steinski - What Does It All Mean? 1983-2006 Retrospective [Illegal Art]
Sun Ra - Some Blues But Not The Kind That's Blue [Atavistic]
Sir Victor Uwaifo - Guitar Boy Superstar 1970-1976 [Soundway]
Yoshi Wada - Off The Wall/Lament For The Rise And Fall Of the Elephantine Crocodile [EM/Omega Point]
Dennis Wilson - Pacific Ocean Blue [Columbia Legacy]
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom/Old Rottenhat/Schleep [Domino]

straightola, Monday, 15 December 2008 19:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

I hope you didn't type out...

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 15 December 2008 20:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/148094-2008-pitchfork-readers-poll

this isn't a critics' poll but whatever. basically it sucks.

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

there were so few options in that poll that basically people were just voting for what order they wanted those 25 records to appear in on the list

Don't Be A Raggett (some dude), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, i wonder how much it cost to get a slot on the ballot

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Monday, 15 December 2008 21:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Q one is the best list. As always.
(Or, well, as always since Select disappeared)

Geir Hongro, Monday, 15 December 2008 23:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

that's interesting, geir hongro. what kind of music do you like?

ladies and gentlemen, mr. biff_tannen (and what), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 01:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

jesus, was there an album that came out this year that didn't get a mention from Wire?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 06:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

You'd think the Wire would have learned to spell Mike Osborne's name correctly by now.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

the wire hip-hop choices are...weird.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

I doubt whether the voters in that poll were in the plural case.

Brother Belcher (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 09:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

From P-fork's "Blind" blurb by Mark Pytlik:

"2008 was a weird year for dance singles. With a few notable exceptions, techno basically spent it on snooze, electro sounded limp and uninspired, and house failed to build on French touch with much of anything fresh. Indie rock did a pretty decent job of integrating dance music into the full-band aesthetic, while a few mainstream cheesemongers helped make up some of those losses (the otherwise awful Sam Sparro scored with "Black & Gold", and it says a lot that one of the year's best dance tracks -- "Pjanoo" -- came from Eric fucking Prydz), but it was hardly robust. Disco, however, avoided that malaise."

God I wish someone told me earlier that indie and Sam Sparro were doing more interesting things with dance music than house and techno this year. So much catching up.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Blind's an odd choice (partly because in a year so supposedly weak for house and techno this ends up #1 regardless) - pretty good as a song but the remixes are better

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

i accidentally read some of that. the beyonce blurb wins by percentage of wrong sentences in one paragraph (100%). and who knew there were so many shitty indie bands in the world? IGNORE.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

thou dost protest every fucking day even more tiresomely than the day before methinks

The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

also: same as every other fucking list! godddd critical consensus is a downer these days.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

less than half the top 20 is indie-rock type stuff and it's mostly decent (what i've heard).

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Blind" at #1 makes this the second year that a track featuring Antony is PFM's top single.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

If you take out Fleet Foxes, Deerhunter and M83 that isn't a bad top ten. Actually the Deerhunter one is okay but just bafflingly high.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

the M83 is great you menk

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think that was a cool choice for no. 1 tho def a weird blurb -- those blanket statements always sound weird to me

flipping thru the bottom 50 yesterday it struck me how similar a lot of the songs sound, even across diff genres -- like the tough alliance song doesnt sound too far off from the fleet foxes song (slow ambient + with acoustic guitar) -- a bunch of diff songs on the list had that same vibe.

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

"mopey" is the adjective you're looking for, i think

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

(slow ambient + with acoustic guitar) -- a bunch of diff songs on the list had that same vibe
This vibe always goes over well at PFM.

Suggest Ban Permalink (contenderizer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

If you take out Fleet Foxes, Deerhunter and M83 that isn't a bad top ten

i like most of the top 10 but the idea that those tracks are the BEST of 08 is baffling. my perennial beef as ever is that this indie-centric list is paid undue attention by people when it shouldn't be treated as a barometer of anything other than mopey indie, and the stuff in it is dragged into the critical centre. it doesn't reflect my year at all, thank fuck.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

it doesn't have to reflect your year. it's their list, not yours.

The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

also: same as every other fucking list! godddd critical consensus is a downer these days.

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:14 (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's certainly weird that critical consensus consists of critics reaching a consensus about things, totally.

Go Go Padgett Binoculars (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

The only song in that top 10 that I think could be described as "mopey" is Portishead, ffs.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

you dont expect him to have heard the songs surely? ;)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

i like most of the top 10 but the idea that those tracks are the BEST of 08 is baffling

feel the same way about the Vibe list. many ok to good tracks but most of them wouldn't get in my own 100.

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

the beyonce blurb wins by percentage of wrong sentences in one paragraph (100%).

lol

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Knowing what ta Pfork list is going to look like in general, their list isn't bad at all.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

i was glad to see "happy house" and "wearing my rolex" so high though i did notice that two writers listed "can't believe it" #1 but it didn't make the top 100 ~*~*curious*~*~

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

It's weird to say that the pfork list looks like all the others; that's really not the case. Still there aren't too many things blowing me away as I go through it. I guess it's just that since they're less indie-centric than ever the kneejerk indie haters sound particularly retarded.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

i did notice that two writers listed "can't believe it" #1 but it didn't make the top 100 ~*~*curious*~*~

The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

the pop songs on the list puzzled me too - "love in this club", "single ladies" and "live your life"?

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

yah i found that really sorta random! esp love in this club -- single ladies is more understandable i think

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

those songs are awesome.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

The 11-20 on the Pfork list is much better than the top 10.

xp: "Live Your Life" is great. I thought most, if not all, of us agreed on this.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Single Ladies is super great.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

love in this club is not that awesome

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

i like single ladies and live your life a lot but i didn't expect pitchfork writers to be rallying around either to be quite honest - "love in this club" is lazy/borderline reprehensible and has aged so awfully that it's not even funny

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

I CAN BREAK THESE CUFFS

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

also lolwtf @ "flashing lights" - was that a single in february or something? even so it feels 2 years old

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

i can break these cuffs is top 10 of the decade xp

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

I still can't tell Crystal Castles and Cut Copy apart

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I basically agree with that except the part for it being weird for them to rally around the first two. I mean, both are huge songs that are at least pretty good. It makes sense that a certain amount of PF writers have heard and like them. Why wouldn't it?

xxxxp

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Flashing Lights" had its chart peak and video release around Jan/Feb, although honestly it was so popular as an album track in '07 that I'm surprised they didn't list it last year already. I was happy to see it, though, especially since it took the big Kanye spot on the list instead of something from 808s. I was scrolling down with dread convinced I would see "Love Lockdown" in the top 5 til I absolutely knew it wasn't there.

The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

I still can't tell Crystal Castles and Cut Copy apart

Then you haven't listened to them.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Love Lockdown" was #39

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha o i missed that

The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

i was kinda surprised that an 808s album track like "street lights" or "paranoid" didn't chart

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

I may be wrong, but I don't think they listed more than 2 tracks by any given artist.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Still confused by love for "single ladies"--the random background synths are as annoying as fuck.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I still can't tell Crystal Castles and Cut Copy apart

Then you haven't listened to them.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:56 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Well, I've LISTENED to them (i even relistened to the four songs they rank on the Pfork list) but they're both so incredibly boring and completely incapable of leaving any impression on me that I'm never left thinking anything beyond "I hate this music" and "people that listen to Belle And Sebastien dance to this"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Still confused by love for "single ladies"--the random background synths are as annoying sick as fuck.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

odd that "time to pretend" makes p4k's list again!

aaron d.g., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yr all still crazy about "Love in This Club" it's #1 the best.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

AY!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't get Crystal Castles, but Cut Copy is a fantastic synth-pop band.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

based on the singles list fleet foxes are probably winning it all - maybe cut copy or portishead

btw were "flashing lights" and "no matter what" the two highest rated rap tracks? weird

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah it's pretty easy to see why "belle & sebastian fans" like cut copy - 80s babies digging indie dudes doing 80s dance pop with huge choruses. seems like a no brainer

btw i <3 them

the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Love In the Club" is the most boringly repetitive song of the year. The hook consists the exact same 2 bars of music over and over again without even the slightest variation.

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost on high-rated rap tracks--and A Milli, and the Wiley song.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

"A Milli" is higher than "no matter what" (xxxp)

Yeah, but what an amazing two bars they are! (xp)

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

And today is the first time I've listened to Cut Copy--not making an impression.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised "A Milli" wasn't rated even higher

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

Vocals aside, most of this stuff seems more connected to Martin's previous work/collaborators than anything else.

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:04 AM Bookmark

You do you, umma do me

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

whoops, whatever I copied didn't copy

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I may be wrong, but I don't think they listed more than 2 tracks by any given artist.

― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:05 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, kanye's on it 4 times if you count "american boy" and "put on", but as main artists i think you're right.

The rickroll from the hilarious NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, NEVER GONNA (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

You do you, umma do me

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― beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:15 AM Bookmark

was supposed to be in response to

Yeah, but what an amazing two bars they are! (xp)

― Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:14 AM Bookmark

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, I just meant main artists xp

beggin-ass keith (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah it's pretty easy to see why "belle & sebastian fans" like cut copy - 80s babies digging indie dudes doing 80s dance pop with huge choruses. seems like a no brainer

btw i <3 them

― the usic man from the hilarious ilx message boards (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 1:13 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this doesnt make sense -- these two artists are totally unrelated -- more like ppl who are into 80s nites and new order and shit like that would like cut copy (i like cut copy)

and yeah whiney's post about them v crystal castles makes even less sense

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

ppl using b&s as strawman "indie" fan shocka

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

cut copy makes me think of new wave thursdays at neo in chicago, even if it is objectively not like that

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Not nearly enough "No Air" love on these lists, btw.

Maciej (maciej recognizing trill), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

A cynic would suggest the only reason Whiney made that point was because they are both broadly speaking electro and have alliterative C names.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Surely the guy making lazy comps to B&S fans would never pull something like THAT!

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

that was j0rdan s

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, I've LISTENED to them (i even relistened to the four songs they rank on the Pfork list) but they're both so incredibly boring and completely incapable of leaving any impression on me that I'm never left thinking anything beyond "I hate this music" and "people that listen to Belle And Sebastien dance to this"

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, December 16, 2008 2:06 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh lol

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Itt: Mean mugging ringtone dudes protecting lame electro bands from lazy zings

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mean you guys are right in that I was lazy and strawmanning, but seriously, given the subject matter, that's like getting up in arms when someone lumps Slipknot and Mudvayne in with "evil clown bands"

uәʇɹɐƃu!әʍ ˙ƃ ʎәu!Ⴁʍ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

the pop songs on the list puzzled me too - "love in this club", "single ladies" and "live your life"?

pfork in hurriedly pulling a few random chart-toppers into their lists at the last minute in lieu of paying attention to pop and r&b throughout the year, shocker

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

why do you give 2 shitz about what pfork is covering?

uncle tombot (and what), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

im not going to take as quite a cynical view as lex but i feel like the pfork lists from years past (05, 06, etc.) had pop/rap picks that were more inspired than stuff like "love in this club" and "live your life" - but i guess that could just speak to the quality of pop music this year

Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

b/c people keep talking about it as if it's a critically impt general music publication

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is the year-end list thread where we discuss year-end lists, lex.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

So both Slant and PopMatters chose Portishead as #1 album. Now I've loved Portishead for a long time, but I have to admit that Third just hasn't pulled me in the way the other two studio albums did. I'm not surprised that it is making the year-end lists, but I am a bit surprised that it is considered the very best album of the year.

Do you folks agree? Disagree?

Moodles, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

im not going to take as quite a cynical view as lex but i feel like the pfork lists from years past (05, 06, etc.) had pop/rap picks that were more inspired than stuff like "love in this club" and "live your life" - but i guess that could just speak to the quality of pop music this year

― Bomb Sackantino (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:05 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i disagree, a lot of their pop picks in, say, '06 ("Ring The Alarm," "S.O.S.," the Akon "Ghetto Story" remix, "One Blood" "Bossy") or most other years seemed like kinda scattershot random samplings of the charts.

Tom Botantino (some dude), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

ha earlier when i said the ambient acoustic guitar + quirky singer thing was real big in the pfork list -- it wasnt just fleet foxes & tough alliance but portishead too -- all different genres supposedly but all the same song!

i dont think lex was quite otm about it being 'mopey' though -- theres a certain attempt @ profundity there i think tho

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

When you put it like that I would agree that the pfork list is quite lacking in stuff that rocks. Token metal picks are very two years ago?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

why do you give 2 shitz about what pfork is covering?

RIP Mullah Omar

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 20:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Not many metal heads at PFM, but they do have Brandon Stosuy.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/147495-column-show-no-mercy

I was pleased to see Hammers Of Misfortune made his list, along with several other musicians' lists.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm pretty surprised "single ladies" was on p4k's list. it should be of course. lex was OTM though, i cringed at about every sentence of its writeup.
i'm going to laugh when fleet fucking foxes is #1 album

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Aren't these Pitchfork poll results from the readers not the editors?

steampig67, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost yeah I need to go through the Show No Mercy list soon, I'm not down with everything he likes but he's pretty on the ball.

k3v are you going to laugh any more than when Panda Bear was #1? Or Sufjan Stevens? This conversation is roughly equally as boring every year. As boring as Fleet Foxes or fucking "Single Ladies."

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

These are editors picks, "steampig67".

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/food/hk-pig-thumb.jpg

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

panda bear can write songs and is 100 times more interesting than that harmonizing geico commercial monkey

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh sry didn't mean to bring out any latent aggressive animal collection fan tendencies.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

xxpost Thanks, I see them now.

steampig67, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Major love to Tom Ewing's singles list!

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol xxpost
forgot to say this, but i can say the same for beyonce

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 December 2008 21:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

b/c people keep talking about it as if it's a critically impt general music publication

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2008

yawn.

more influential than The Guardian or Plan B anyway...

fandango, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 22:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork | The 100 Best Tracks of 2008
100 Girls - Hellhole Ratrace
99 Final Fantasy - The Butcher
98 The Magnetic Fields - The Nun's Litany
97 Buraka Som Sistema (Feat. M.I.A. and DJ Znobia) - Sound of Kuduro
96 Empire of the Sun - Walking on a Dream
95 Friendly Fires (Feat. Au Revoir Simone) - Paris (Aeroplane Remix)
94 WHY? - Fatalist Palmistry
93 Atlas Sound - River Card
92 Born Ruffians - I Need a Life (Four Tet Remix)
91 Jamie Lidell - All I Wanna Do
90 Sic Alps - Message From the Law
89 Ponytail - Celebrate the Body Electric (It Came From an Angel)
88 Low Motion Disco - Things Are Gonna Get Easier
87 The Veronicas - Untouched
86 Los Campesinos! - Sweet Dreams, Sweet Cheeks
85 Osborne - 16th Stage
84 Beach House - Gila
83 Titus Andronicus - Upon Viewing Brueghel's 'Landscape With the Fall of Icarus'
82 Solange - Sandcastle Disco
81 Love Is All - Wishing Well
80 The Bug (Feat. Warrior Queen) - Poison Dart
79 Ida Maria - Oh My God
78 Frightened Rabbit - The Modern Leper
77 Telepathe - I Can't Stand It
76 Justice - DVNO (Radio Edit)
75 Little Boots - Stuck on Repeat
74 Wale - The Kramer
73 Goldfrapp - A&E
72 Fleet Foxes - Blue Ridge Mountains
71 Sigur Ros - Gobbledigook
70 Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music
69 Portishead - The Rip
68 Four Tet - Ribbons
67 Young Jeezy (Feat. Kanye West) - Put On
66 Lykke Li - Dance, Dance, Dance
65 Max Tundra - Which Song
64 The Whitest Boy Alive - Golden Cage (Fred Falke Remix)
63 The Very Best - Kamphopo
62 The Tough Alliance - Lucky
61 Q-Tip - Gettin' Up
60 Crystal Castles - Courtship Dating
59 The Dodos - Fools
58 Annie - I Know UR Girlfriend Hates Me
57 High Places - From Stardust to Sentience
56 Vampire Weekend - Oxford Comma
55 Usher (Feat. Young Jeezy) - Love in This Club
54 Lykke Li - Little Bit
53 Be Your Own Pet - Becky
52 Ricardo Villalobos - Enfants (Chants)
51 TV on the Radio - Golden Age
50 Invisible Conga People - Cable Dazed
49 Jay Reatard - Always Wanting More
48 Spiritualized - Soul on Fire
47 Alphabeat - Fascination
46 M83 - Graveyard Girl
45 Antony and the Johnsons - Shake That Devil
44 Hot Chip - One Pure Thought
43 Kelley Polar - Entropy Reigns (In the Celestial City)
42 Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus, Dig!!!
41 No Age - Sleeper Hold
40 T.I. [ft. Rihanna] - Live Your Life
39 Kanye West - Love Lockdown
38 TV on the Radio - DLZ
37 Big Boi [ft. Raekwon and André 3000] - Royal Flush
36 Arthur Russell - I Couldn't Say It to Your Face
35 Shearwater - The Snow Leopard
34 Fuck Buttons - Sweet Love for Planet Earth
33 Animal Collective - Street Flash
32 Crystal Castles - Untrust Us
31 Aeroplane [ft. Kathy Diamond] - Whispers
30 MGMT - Time to Pretend
29 Vampire Weekend - M79
28 No Age - Eraser
27 T.I. - No Matter What
26 The Walkmen - In the New Year
25 The Hold Steady- Constructive Summer
24 Gang Gang Dance - House Jam
23 Beyoncé - Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)
22 Santogold - Lights Out
21 Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules' Theme
20 The Juan MacLean - Happy House
19 Vivian Girls - Where Do You Run To
18 Women - Black Rice
17 Wiley - Wearing My Rolex
16 The Mae Shi - Run to Your Grave
15 Amadou and Mariam - Sabali
14 Lil Wayne - A Milli
13 Kanye West - Flashing Lights
12 Cut Copy - Out There on the Ice
11 David Byrne and Brian Eno - Strange Overtones
10 Estelle - American Boy
9 Portishead - Machine Gun
8 Air France - Collapsing At Your Doorstep
7 Cut Copy - Hearts On Fire
6 Deerhunter - Nothing Ever Happened
5 M83 - Kim & Jessie
4 Santogold - LES Artistes
3 Hot Chip - Ready For The Floor
2 Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal
1 Hercules & Love Affair - Blind

copied from: http://hayatbayat.blogspot.com/2008/12/pitchfork-100-best-tracks-of-2008.html

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 03:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh man the last one I linked is just brutal (one of the reasons I like that site)

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

weird weird Wale blurb on pfork. maybe u can be justified dropping hella n-bombs if you're actually making a point related to that somehow but in the end it was just like "hes not lecturing us about it, just mentioning that it happened, and thats good enough!!" and its like o_O?

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 05:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

wow thanks for posting those lists matos - lots of my own favourites and some really amazing new discoveries. that foreign exchange/muhsinah track is incredible!! so sumptuous and epic. why have i been assailed by so much talk about fleet foxes when this has existed this year.

also this is the best line from any blurb so far, re: jazmine sullivan's 'lions, tigers & bears':

It's what I envision the dance between someone's mind and heart to be like just before they fall completely in love to be like.

<3

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 10:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't think that anyone's posted the Resident Advisor Top 20 albums of 2008 yet. Matt DC should be happy with the winner.

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 10:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nice list from RA. Deadbeat's album isn't getting enough love -- it's a real grower. And I'm still not understanding the high praise for Move D/Benjamin Brunn.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 11:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

The last Deadbeat album was great, sort of flitted around in an undiscovered hinterland between minimal and dancehall. I didn't even know there was one this year.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can't be alone in thinking that Pitchfork's honorable mention list seems like an irrepressibly silly idea. And that Torche deserved so much more than an honorable mention for Meanderthal.

post-schadenfreude (fukasaku tollbooth), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also had a song that went 'gimme gimme gimme gimme fat girl on me willy' or something similar.

(xpost)

Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, we can place records like Meanderthal, that didn't make our top 50, into a feature that will be read by hundreds of thousands of people over the next few weeks or ignore it altogether. Apologies if that's "irrepressibly silly."

scottpl, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

ignore "them" rather

scottpl, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 12:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

Most of the honorable mentions are in my top 50-200. I wouldn't call it silly either. Other magazines or sites have their own honorable mentions with their separate genre lists.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 13:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think it's a great idea, and am glad to see Abe Vigoda, Philip Jeck, Torche (among others) receive the extra press.

ilxor, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 13:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

And Harvey Milk. I just was working up a rant that Torche and Harvey Milk (and Made Out Of Babies) weren't getting enough luv.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

@scottpl You guys really need to institute slideshows for these features already.

post-schadenfreude (fukasaku tollbooth), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Always nice to see Torche get props and press, but wtf is this line from the blurb:

On their second album (and first for Hydra Head Records), they don't disregard the bombastic sludge that they're best known for. Instead, they cut their tar with all sorts of non-metallic things, including some that might make their more militant fans use some terms of endearment that, given the band leader's sexual orientation, could be considered at best ironic.

OK after looking a bit I had no idea Steve was gay but not really sure what this has to do with anything?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Last day of voting on Best Album On NME' s 2008 Albums Of The Year List?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 16:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

from MTV: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1601434/20081217/swift__taylor.jhtml

Maybe it's the Christmas season, but indie rock appears to be in the air. The self-titled full-length debut from pastoral indie folk darlings Fleet Foxes claws back to #181 on sales of 5,900, two months after achieving their highest position to date at #67. Vampire Weekend's self-titled debut also made its way back onto the charts for the first time in two months at #189 with 5,400 units snapped up. And Bon Iver's For Emma Forever Ago slips under the wire at #198 thanks to 5,200 units moved, its strongest sales to date after debuting at #181 back in February.

Am I crazy for assuming that this has to be the direct result of various year-end lists being published? And if so, would that be the first time several indie records have gotten a measurable chart bump this time of year, seemingly for that reason?

BIG BROOS aka the steenspringer (some dude), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bon Iver was on Letterman

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Very interesting. It's possible that the social emphasis on "year-end lists" is at an all-time high. Someone told me Bon Iver was on Letterman last week, so that might have something to do with their sales boost. (XPOST)

billstevejim, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

you can now disagree with the...critical mainstream consensus for 2008 albums

http://www.albumvote.co.uk/news/the-top-albums-of-2008-431.aspx
The annual list of lists to find out the definitive albums of the year chart is compiled from 6 UK sources (NME, Q, Uncut, Guardian, Observer Music Monthly, Sunday Times) and 6 American sources (Rolling Stone, Spin, Filter, Pitchfork, Blender, Time Magazine).

Each source has a top 10 list and this chart is an aggregated version of all them.

# 1. TV On The Radio - Dear Science
# 2. Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes
# 3. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
# 4. Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
# 5. Lil' Wayne - Tha Carter III
# 6. Portishead - Third
# 7. MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
# 8. Elbow - The Seldom Seen kid
# 9. Glasvegas - Glasvegas
# 10. Kings Of Leon - Only By The Night
# 11. Foals - Antidotes
# 12. Santogold - Santogold
# 13. Girl Talk - Feed the Animals
# 14. Coldplay - Viva La Vida Or Death and All His Friends
# 15. Cut/Copy - In Ghost Colours
# 16. Deerhunter - Microcastle
# 17. Kanye West - 808s & Heartbreak
# 18. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!
# 19. Fucked Up - The Chemistry of Modern Love
# 20. Bob Dylan - Tell Tale Signs
# 21. Amadou and Mariam - Welcome to Mali
# 22. Paul Weller - 22 Dreams
# 23. Hot Chip - Made in the Dark
# 24. Metallica - Death Magnetic
# 25. Laura Marling - Alas I Cannot Swim
# 26. My Morning Jacket - Evil Urges
# 27. No Age - Nouns
# 28. Dr. Dog - Fate
# 29. Hercules And Love Affair – Hercules And Love Affair
# 30. John Mellencamp - Life, Death, Love and Freedon
# 31. Duffy - Rockferry
# 32. Metronomy - Nights Out
# 33. Aidan John Moffat - I Can Hear Your Heart
# 34. DJ Rupture - Uproot
# 35. Robyn – Robyn
# 36. Neon Neon - Stainless Style
# 37. Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree
# 38. Al Green - Lay It Down
# 39. Of Montreal – Of Montreal
# 40. She And Him - Volume One

djmartian, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

^How is this possible when the PFork list hasn't even been published yet?

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

NME.com published a rumored Pitchfork list, so probably from there. (It wasn't real.)

scottpl, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

A: they obviously used pitchfork readers poll not critics

djmartian, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

or this

Pitchfork's 50 Highest Rated Albums of 2008
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/kenyon330/pitchforks_50_highest_rated_albums_of_2008

djmartian, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 19:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Whoa, who knew that Prurient's "Arrowhead" got an 8.8?!

TUOM Gang (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 20:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Weird since it's like one of my least fave Prurient records, but noise is pretty subjective so I'm just glad he got the props.

TUOM Gang (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 20:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's the Christmas season, but indie rock appears to be in the air. The self-titled full-length debut from pastoral indie folk darlings Fleet Foxes claws back to #181 on sales of 5,900, two months after achieving their highest position to date at #67. Vampire Weekend's self-titled debut also made its way back onto the charts for the first time in two months at #189 with 5,400 units snapped up. And Bon Iver's For Emma Forever Ago slips under the wire at #198 thanks to 5,200 units moved, its strongest sales to date after debuting at #181 back in February.

"I was thinking I might get my brother some cool CDs for Christmas! He has such bad taste and I know he just needs to get exposed to some cool things!"

Tuomas The Spank Engine (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

man it'll be champagne all round at alma road this year

Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Bon Iver was on Letterman

Fleet Foxes were on Conan a night or two ago.

ilxor, Thursday, 18 December 2008 03:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Here's Pitchfork. Second part tomorrow.

26: Atlas Sound - Let the Blind Lead Those Who Can See But Cannot Feel
27: Max Tundra - Parallax Error Beheads You
28: Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
29: The Hold Steady - Stay Positive
30: Los Campesinos! - Hold on Now, Youngster...
31: Fennesz - Black Sea
32: Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Dig!!! Lazarus Dig!!!
33: Frightened Rabbit - Midnight Organ Fight
34: Arthur Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me
35: Girl Talk - Feed the Animals
36: Wale - The Mixtape About Nothing
37: Grouper - Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill
38: The Bug - London Zoo
39: Times New Viking - Rip It Off
40: The Very Best - Esau Mwamwaya & Radioclit are the Very Best
41: David Byrne and Brian Eno - Everything That Happens Will Happen Today
42: Bonnie "Prince" Billy - Lie Down in the Light
43: Shearwater - Rook
44: Marnie Stern - This Is It and I Am It and You Are It and So Is That and He Is It and She Is It and It Is It and That Is That
45: Lykke Li - Youth Novels
46: Beach House - Devotion
47: The Tallest Man on Earth - Shallow Grave
48: High Places - High Places
49: Crystal Stilts - Alight of Night
50: Ponytail - Ice Cream Spiritual

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 18 December 2008 12:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well I'm certainly stoked for the second half after reading that.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 December 2008 13:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Blurt (I swear I never heard of the album winner -- or if I did, I wasn't paying attention):

http://www.blurt-online.com/features/view/240/

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 December 2008 17:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

WOXY.com Listeners Vote Their Top 97 Of 2008
http://woxy.lala.com/blog/2008/12/18/woxycom-listeners-vote-their-top-97-of-2008/

djmartian, Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

34: Arthur Russell - Love Is Overtaking Me
35: Girl Talk - Feed the Animals

something lol about this

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Thursday, 18 December 2008 21:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

didn't know that Flying Lotus album was so well-liked

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

i don't know WHY that Flying Lotus album is so well-liked

♪☺♫☻ (grim sh80) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

his a milli remix is pretty great

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

the album is kind of a snooze though

robschneiderMk2 (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

My god - that Wale mixtape must be the worst thing ever mentioned in a year end list. No wonder it was 'self released'.

ArchCarrier, Friday, 19 December 2008 11:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

the woxy list only has one great album but still that's one more than every other list in this thread

Merry Christuomas (electricsound), Friday, 19 December 2008 11:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

"the kramer" is really bad, didn't listen to the rest

abanana, Friday, 19 December 2008 11:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

me and big hoos talked about this tonight - i don't get the love for wale at all. dude sounds half-asleep whenever he's rapping and he doesn't even seem to care about flowing in any way that isn't monotone. not to mention that his PROFOUND STATEMENTS are, of course, not that profound

please don't stop the usic (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 11:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think the beats are palatable to people? idk - i'd rather listen to rich boy any day

please don't stop the usic (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 11:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

ahhh pitchfork's 1-25 albums is about to release: QUICK PREDICTIONS!

top 10: TVOTR, Portishead, Cut Copy, Deerhunter, Fleet Foxes, Hercules and Love Affair for sure; wildcards: MGMT? M83? Vivian Girls? Vampire Weekend? Odds anyone? Actually Vampire Weekend should be in the "for sure" category come to think of it and of Pitchfork.

yoshinorimike, Friday, 19 December 2008 11:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

who cares, stop talking about it

lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2008 11:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh and perhaps No Age too.

yoshinorimike, Friday, 19 December 2008 12:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

01: Fleet Foxes - Sun Giant EP/Fleet Foxes
02: Portishead - Third
03: No Age - Nouns
04: Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours
05: Deerhunter - Microcastle / Weird Era Cont.
06: TV on the Radio - Dear Science
07: Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend
08: M83 - Saturdays=Youth
09: Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules and Love Affair
10: DJ/rupture - Uproot
11: Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
12: Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too
13: Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One (4th World War)
14: Air France - No Way Down
15: Crystal Castles - Crystal Castles
16: Vivian Girls - Vivian Girls
17: Fucked Up - The Chemistry of Common Life
18: The Mae Shi - HLLLYH
19: The Walkmen - You & Me
20: Fuck Buttons - Street Horrrsing
21: Kanye West - 808s and Heartbreak
22: Santogold - Santogold
23: Hot Chip - Made in the Dark
24: Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna
25: Titus Andronicus - The Airing of Grievances

ArchCarrier, Friday, 19 December 2008 12:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

(That was the top 25 of the Pitchfork list)

ArchCarrier, Friday, 19 December 2008 12:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

wow I think I'm only surprised at how unsurprising a top 10 that was (except of course token wildcard DJ/rupture).

yoshinorimike, Friday, 19 December 2008 13:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Did that Mae Shi make much of a splash in the US? It was released that long ago it seems like it was totally forgotten about... I liked it but never gave it any thought re: EOY lists

please_stanton_dont_burt_em (DJ Mencap), Friday, 19 December 2008 13:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

surprised at no jeezy or t.i./random wale mixtape being treated as one of the token hiphop albums of the year, i guess.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 19 December 2008 13:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

shameless i know, but a bunch of random people have done their thing for quietus :

http://thequietus.com/articles/00903-the-quietus-list-of-lists

mark e, Friday, 19 December 2008 13:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yup, fairly predictable (maybe other than Cut Copy at 4?) though better than 26-50 was. Can anyone tell me anything about dj/rupture?

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 19 December 2008 13:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

DJ Mencap, I don't remember seeing buzz about Mae Shi anywhere outside of pitchfork; maybe one of their pet faves/projects? Not sure though.

yoshinorimike, Friday, 19 December 2008 13:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

thought Gang Gang Dance would be doing much better

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Friday, 19 December 2008 14:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

thought wayne was a top 5 lock

please don't stop the usic (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 14:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

too popular

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 14:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yay Mae Shi! That album is incredible and incredibly slept-on. I put it on my Pazz And Jop ballot in 2007—which would make it pretty much the only time in my life I can rightfully say "FIRST!" about anything, for whatever that's worth

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 19 December 2008 15:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

livin' the dream, whiney!

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 15:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Here's Robert Christgau's list, from Slate.com. Finally some love for the Drive-By Truckers and Conor Oberst, two of my three favorites of the year.

Albums

1. Franco: Francophonic
2. Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III (Deluxe Edition)
3. Drive-By Truckers: Brighter Than Creation's Dark
4. TV on the Radio: Dear Science
5. Coner Oberst: Coner Oberst
6. Randy Newman: Harps and Angels
7. Les Amazones de Guinee: Wamato
8. Hayes Carll: Trouble in Mind
9. The Roots: Rising Down
10. The Magnetic Fields: Distortion
11. Orchestra Baobab: Made in Dakar
12. Girl Talk: Feed the Animals
13. Raphael Saadiq: The Way I See It
14. Los Campesinos!: Hold On Now, Youngster …
15. Steinski: What Does It All Mean: 1983-2006 Retrospective
16. Robert Forster: The Evangelist
17. T.I.: Paper Trail
18. Menya: The Ol' Reach-Around
19. Jaguar Love: Jaguar Love
20. The Rough Guide to Colombian Street Party

Singles

1. M.I.A.: "Paper Planes"
2. Lee Dorsey: "Yes We Can Can"
3. Conor Oberst: "I Don't Want To Die (In the Hospital)"
4. Los Campesinos!: "Death to Los Campesinos!"
5. Rihanna: "Disturbia"
6. Mike Doughty: "More Bacon Than the Pan Can Handle"
7. Dan le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip: "Thou Shalt Always Kill"
8. Randy Newman: "Potholes"
9. Drive-By Truckers: "The Righteous Path"
10. Nas: "Black President"

kornrulez6969, Friday, 19 December 2008 15:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

whiney that gif is hypnotizing me

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 15:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

6. Mike Doughty: "More Bacon Than the Pan Can Handle"'

there are some decent songs on that album but wow that one is awful

e|t|c (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2008 15:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty surprised the Jamie Lidell album didn't make the Pitchfork top 50 at all.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mean, as a neo-soul album on Warp Records that's eons better than Multiply, his last record (which I think was on the 2005 Pfork list), I'd have expected Jim to have done pretty well. It's probably the most purely enjoyable record I've heard all year, besides.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

wtf is fleet foxes

The Brainwasher, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to that Al Green album finally, and am realizing any album list that has the Jamie Lidell instead of this is MAD SUSPECT

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Here's Robert Christgau's list, from Slate.com. Finally some love for the Drive-By Truckers and Conor Oberst, two of my three favorites of the year.

Albums

1. Franco: Francophonic
2. Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III (Deluxe Edition)
3. Drive-By Truckers: Brighter Than Creation's Dark
4. TV on the Radio: Dear Science
5. Coner Oberst: Coner Oberst
6. Randy Newman: Harps and Angels
7. Les Amazones de Guinee: Wamato
8. Hayes Carll: Trouble in Mind
9. The Roots: Rising Down
10. The Magnetic Fields: Distortion
11. Orchestra Baobab: Made in Dakar
12. Girl Talk: Feed the Animals
13. Raphael Saadiq: The Way I See It
14. Los Campesinos!: Hold On Now, Youngster …
15. Steinski: What Does It All Mean: 1983-2006 Retrospective
16. Robert Forster: The Evangelist
17. T.I.: Paper Trail
18. Menya: The Ol' Reach-Around
19. Jaguar Love: Jaguar Love
20. The Rough Guide to Colombian Street Party

Singles

1. M.I.A.: "Paper Planes"
2. Lee Dorsey: "Yes We Can Can"
3. Conor Oberst: "I Don't Want To Die (In the Hospital)"
4. Los Campesinos!: "Death to Los Campesinos!"
5. Rihanna: "Disturbia"
6. Mike Doughty: "More Bacon Than the Pan Can Handle"
7. Dan le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip: "Thou Shalt Always Kill"
8. Randy Newman: "Potholes"
9. Drive-By Truckers: "The Righteous Path"
10. Nas: "Black President"

― kornrulez6969, Friday, December 19, 2008 10:44 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

shouldnt you disappointed about the lack of korn on that list

Dr. Yakubius (and what), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

korn didn't release a new album this year

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

they had a single on the rock charts, though

e|t|c (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

it did not rule, however

e|t|c (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Actually I'm thrilled to see Jaguar Love on Christgau's list. Fantastic album.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

shouldnt you disappointed about the lack of korn on that list

Korn 4 EVA!!!!

kornrulez6969, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

nice try whiney

Dr. Yakubius (and what), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

YALL WANNA SINGLES LIST SAY FUCK THAT

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

self-promo madness: Cave17 top 25:

1. Erykah Badu, New Amerykah Part 1 (4th World War)
2. Solange, Sol-Angel and the Hadley St. Dreams
3. The Raveonettes, Lust Lust Lust
4. Flight of the Conchords, Flight of the Conchords
5. The Duke Spirit, Neptune
6. Portishead, Third
7. T.I., Paper Trail
8. Boris, Smile
9. The Major Labels, Aquavia
10. TV on the Radio, Dear Science
11. Fucked Up, The Chemistry of Common Life
12. Lil Mama, VYP — Voice of the Young People
13. Prisonshake, Dirty Moons
14. Neon Neon, Stainless Style
15. Aaron Parks, Invisible Cinema
16. M83, Saturdays = Youth
17. Ne-Yo, Year of of the Gentleman
18. Harvey Milk, Life…the Best Game in Town
19. Bardo Pond, Circuit VIII
20. No Age, Nouns
21. Esperanza Spalding, Esperanza
22. The Shackletons, The Shackletons
23. My Morning Jacket, Evil Urges
24. Torche, Meanderthal
25. Anthony Hamilton, The Point of It All

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 16:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Actually I'm thrilled to see Jaguar Love on Christgau's list. Fantastic album.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, December 19, 2008 11:39 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ good catch, i missed that. i thought maybe Xgau would pass over their album because he big-upped the 3-song EP over the album in the consumer guide.

e|t|c (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

But after a second look, he must be talking about the EP.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha oh yeah. kinda silly IMO, since 2/3rds of the songs are also on the album, and the other 8 on the album far outweigh the 1 good non-album EP track, but still, cool of him to list them.

e|t|c (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is the first year in awhile that I didn't roll my eyes at PFM's #1 album pick. Not my favorite album of the year, but at least it isn't Joanna Newsom (or Panda Bear).

Mordy, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wait, it isn't?

Matt DC, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

I thought Panda Bear was a pretty good thing for a website to call album of the year

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Panda Bear album was my least favorite album to come out that year.

Mordy, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mean you're right it was no Daughtry

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

FWIW, my list.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Your list is a bunch of TL;DR?

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yay!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

well, i rolled my eyes at fleet foxes, but that's just cuz i hate them. it was pretty damn predictable actually. thought it was nice Badu was high up there, did they even review that record?

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

nabisco did

t_g, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh ok yeah i honestly didnt know

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

I Pitchfork not going to post individual writers' lists this year? Or did I miss them?

Dan S, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is the first year in awhile that I didn't roll my eyes at PFM's #1 album pick. Not my favorite album of the year, but at least it isn't Joanna Newsom (or Panda Bear) Sufjan Stevens.

Corrected.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Thanks Matos

Dan S, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

hmm, of montreal was on four lists, pretty high up on a few. compare this with, say, #50 ponytail, which was on two lists.

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Looks like while the Fleet Foxes album was #1 overall, it was only placed #1 on a single writer's individual list. By comparison, Deerhunter and Cut Copy were placed #1 on three lists apiece, while Hercules and Love Affair, Earth and Arthur Russell all placed #1 on two writers' lists apiece.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

the responsible ones:

>> Brian Howe
2. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing

>> Eric Harvey
1. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing

>> Jayson Greene
4. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing

abanana, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

the responsible ones
the responsible ones
the responsible ones
the responsible ones
the responsible ones
the responsible ones
the responsible ones
the responsible ones

Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

looks like the era of beanie sigel ending up on pf end of year lists is long gone huh

please don't stop the usic (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sig's album was merely good.

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeahhh suggesteban, looks like an executive decision (and holding fast to their 5.9) trumped the math there on Of Montreal; it does not seem to add up, not at all

yoshinorimike, Friday, 19 December 2008 19:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

OH MY GOD MAYBE THEY DONT RUN THEIR EDITORIAL LIKE A DEMOCRACY WHAT WILL WE DO?!?!?!?!

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

i never cried foul, whiney.

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Of Montreal were nowhere close: Only five votes, two in the top 10. Ponytail, on the other hand, were on 10 ballots, including once in the top 10. You vote for 50 albums, plus you allocate points to your top 25-- you can't just look at those lists as published and determine anything.

scottpl, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

ok thanks scott

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

thought it was nice Badu was high up there, did they even review that record?

they reviewed it like 3 months after it came out or something, as they obv didn't think erykah badu was an artist worthy of their attention until it was obvious how much consensus there was around new amerykah. which says a lot about their editorial priorities!

thumbs up for the cave17 list btw, excellent top 2 and some interesting choices in there (like, raveonettes is the kind of indie that i'm not 100% down with myself, but i do love a single here and there by them and it's not what you'd expect to see on EoY lists) (and so far more welcome than fucking fleet foxezzzzzzz again). we should be talking more about the cave17 list, not the pfork one.

lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

also impressed at cave17 getting the anthony hamilton in there - released, what, four days ago?

lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Cave17 list has Flight Of The Fucking Conchords on it, so no.

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha we are DISQUALIFIED :[]

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, Flight of the Conchords at #4 was the weirdest thing about the list to me

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

btw Matos, thanking u so much for the soulbounce lists!

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

in re: Flight of the Conchords: We have a small staff, two people rated it very highly, end of story. Don't understand why there is any confusion. Me and my son love "Robots" because it is funny but it wasn't on my list either.

(Boring semi-defensive comment: I guess comedy records don't count unless they are hip records by hipsters like David Cross or Patton Oswalt?)

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

I do need to track down the A. Hamilton

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

xpost Comedy records count if they are funny.

nah bisco right (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

I like Conchords much more on TV, but the record is well made, which apparently this year counts for a ton. (Hey, my favorite album is Ne-Yo, so I oughta know, right?)

I posted my top 100 tracks on my blog if anyone wants to look:
http://m-matos.blogspot.com/2008/12/fuck-it-ive-tweaked-it-long-enough-and.html

Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 21:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Wow Matos, maybe someday I'll hear like six of these

My biggest disappointment this year is not hearing more from Brazil; Gilberto Gil had 2 records out this year and CSS sure but I am just out of touch these days, my contacts down there have dried up (LOL optometry humor)

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

Babe, Terror is a great Brazil 08 joint, d5: http://www.myspace.com/babeterror

nah bisco right (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

this not my cup of caipirinha, chris, but thanks. although we should probably keep our semi-beef alive so i can get tons of publicity for SCRAPPY LITTLE CAVE17.COM

i was hoping for albums from some of my fave rave indie brazilian people but they didnt happen yet, tudo bem

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

(like, raveonettes is the kind of indie that i'm not 100% down with myself, but i do love a single here and there by them and it's not what you'd expect to see on EoY lists) (and so far more welcome than fucking fleet foxezzzzzzz again).

The Pfork list would make a lot more sense if the Raveonettes album took the place of Fleet Foxes. It's a fucking great record, my #1 for a few months early in the year, and I think the comparisons to Psychocandy are on target. I'd venture to say if Lust Lust Lust was released in 1985, and Psychocandy in 2008, then Lust would be the stone cold classic Psychocandy has instead become.

I love both albums, mind you.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 22:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really like the Raveonettes album, but that is just rong rong rong.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 December 2008 22:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/sites/default/files/36.jpg
"Just your average Hasidic reggae rapper. Yeah, you heard me. This guy is a straight-up Hasidic Jew from New York who busts mad flow over dancehall and reggae beats. This is the future of music." --Sam Endicott, the Bravery in The Guardian

abanana, Friday, 19 December 2008 23:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'd like to add my voice to the "Wale is boring" chorus.

usic concrète (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

I saw him on MTV Jams today and it was pretty WTF.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

Aw, man! Anthony Hamilton has a new one out? Is it great???

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

It is even better than Comin' From Where I'm From.

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really like the Raveonettes album, but that is just rong rong rong.

To be honest... there are days I think Lust is better than Psychocandy, track for track.

ilxor, Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

interesting. i think it's their weakest record. but i'll always prefer spectorish stuff to the marychainish stuff

Merry Christuomas (electricsound), Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jody Rosen in Slate

1. Girl Talk, Feed the Animals
2. Lil Wayne, Tha Carter III
3. Jamey Johnson, That Lonesome Song
4. Calle 13, Los De Atrás Vienen Conmigo
5. Portishead, Third
6. Sugarland, Love on the Inside
7. Benji Hughes, A Love Extreme
8. TV on the Radio, Dear Science
9. The Cool Kids, The Bake Sale
10. Ashton Shepherd, Sounds So Good

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.slate.com/id/2206848/entry/2206850/

The Rosen album list plus his singles is part of a series of e-mails between he and Ann Powers and Robert Christgau on Slate

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Christgau at Slate (He also talked about the Franco compilation on NPR)

Albums

1. Franco: Francophonic
2. Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III (Deluxe Edition)
3. Drive-By Truckers: Brighter Than Creation's Dark
4. TV on the Radio: Dear Science
5. Coner Oberst: Coner Oberst
6. Randy Newman: Harps and Angels
7. Les Amazones de Guinee: Wamato
8. Hayes Carll: Trouble in Mind
9. The Roots: Rising Down
10. The Magnetic Fields: Distortion
11. Orchestra Baobab: Made in Dakar
12. Girl Talk: Feed the Animals
13. Raphael Saadiq: The Way I See It
14. Los Campesinos!: Hold On Now, Youngster …
15. Steinski: What Does It All Mean: 1983-2006 Retrospective
16. Robert Forster: The Evangelist
17. T.I.: Paper Trail
18. Menya: The Ol' Reach-Around
19. Jaguar Love: Jaguar Love
20. The Rough Guide to Colombian Street Party

Singles

1. M.I.A.: "Paper Planes"
2. Lee Dorsey: "Yes We Can Can"
3. Conor Oberst: "I Don't Want To Die (In the Hospital)"
4. Los Campesinos!: "Death to Los Campesinos!"
5. Rihanna: "Disturbia"
6. Mike Doughty: "More Bacon Than the Pan Can Handle"
7. Dan le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip: "Thou Shalt Always Kill"
8. Randy Newman: "Potholes"
9. Drive-By Truckers: "The Righteous Path"
10. Nas: "Black President"

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Christgau explains why he put Lee Dorsey on his singles list. Lee Dorsey is no longer with us but....Christgau says "Old guy that I am, I don't watch music on my computer or anywhere else, but seeing will.i.am's version just once reminded me how much I loved Dorsey's (and the Treacherous Three's, though I'll bet Michelle O. loves the Pointers'), and, therefore, I stuck it atop my singles list out of sheer orneriness."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

black devil disco club is getting no mentions anywhere compared to thier last one

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 21 December 2008 02:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Anthony Hamilton, his guest spot and a number of other tracks on the new Mint Condition are ace.

Already picked up the Franco because of Christgau's A+ and its predictably wonderful. Have to get that T.I. and Raphael Saadiq.

The Roots and The Magnetic Fields aren't doing much for me, but maybe I'm just not a fan of the way they sound. I love a few tracks each off Orchestra Baobab and Robert Forster. They play as wholes in the background so far...

Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

black devil disco club is getting no mentions anywhere compared to thier last one

cuz it's kinda dull compared to their last one :(

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 December 2008 10:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

Saw the movie Slumdog Millionaire last night. M.I.A.'s all over the soundtrack--a song with A.R. Rahman, "Paper Planes," and the DFA remix of "Paper Planes."

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

NY Times critics lists(Jon Pareles, Jon Caramanica, Ben Ratliff,Nate Chinen) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/arts/music/21cara.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print

By JON CARAMANICA
1. JAMEY JOHNSON “That Lonesome Song” (Mercury Nashville). The second album from this stoic country singer documents a series of battles — with a woman, with alcohol and drugs, with a stubborn self. The scars and the bruises, they speak for themselves, as do the words that often seem to give out, exhausted and apologetic, halfway through.

2. THE COOL KIDS “The Bake Sale” (C.A.K.E./Chocolate Industries). All memory is invention, anyway, so why shouldn’t the most precise evocation of hip-hop’s late-1980s New York golden age come from a pair of Chicago kids in their early 20s? This debut is more than tribute, though; the rapper Mikey Rocks has calm swagger, and Chuck Inglish’s beats move in multiple directions without sacrificing crispness.

3. THE GASLIGHT ANTHEM “The ’59 Sound” (SideOneDummy). The characters in this band’s Springsteen-influenced punk songs can’t be saved; years of atrophying in dead-end towns have rendered them helpless, resigned to their fates. But with his optimistic, wooly shouts, the singer Brian Fallon makes them sound like heroes, not cautionary tales.

4. TAYLOR SWIFT “Fearless” (Big Machine). Teenage subject matter notwithstanding, there’s nothing naïve about this young singer’s music; her second album is every bit as elegantly designed as her 2006 debut. Ms. Swift is one of pop’s finest songwriters, country’s foremost pragmatist and more in touch with her inner life than most adults.

5. LIL WAYNE “Tha Carter III” (Cash Money/Universal Motown). So underwhelming, so imperfect: The flaws of Lil Wayne’s sixth solo album seem so glaring because for the last two years, as he decimated the mixtape circuit with colorful, undulating rhymes, he has batted almost 1.000. Still, there’s nothing wrong with .750.

6. BON IVER “For Emma, Forever Ago” (Jagjaguwar). Bon Iver singer Justin Vernon’s croon is high-pitched and spooky; his arrangements are spare and hushed. But the small and sometimes cryptic songs on this band’s debut are deceptively tough, marching forward inexorably toward something that sounds a lot like bliss.

7. DARIUS RUCKER “Learn To Live” (Capitol Nashville). More like Hootie and the Albatrosses: Shed of the bar-band dead weight, Mr. Rucker has looked within and discovered a country classicist with a keen pop ear. And then there’s that voice, robust and honeyed and not at all, it turns out, a relic.

8. YOUNG JEEZY “The Recession” (Def Jam). This Atlanta rapper has sneered and preached and boasted and mourned. But he has never, before now, seethed. This is a harsh, captivating album about hopelessness, and Jeezy spits out unsparing observations as if they tasted bad.

9. THE ACADEMY IS ... “Fast Times at Barrington High” (Decaydance/Fueled by Ramen). Five years after promised, emo finally became power-pop this year, just in time for no one to care. That’s a shame for this Chicago band, which has a slick, acidic frontman, William Beckett, and a cache of indestructible songwriting and production by S*A*M and Sluggo that even the Jonas Brothers would kill for.

10. PLIES “Da REAList” (Slip-N-Slide/Atlantic). On this, one of two great albums he released this year, Plies is staunchly literal, more of a conversationalist than a rapper. But why bother with metaphor, imagery and cadence when straight talk can be this rich?

Top Songs

SHAWTY LO, FEATURING LUDACRIS, YOUNG JEEZY, PLIES AND LIL WAYNE “Dey Know (Remix)” (Asylum)

NE-YO “Closer” (Def Jam)

LIL WAYNE “A Milli” (Cash Money/Universal Motown)

DEMI LOVATO AND JOE JONAS “This Is Me” (Hollywood)

D-BLOCK “It’s Like That” (Koch)

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/arts/music/21ratl.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print Ben Ratliff has Metallica #1, then some jazz (Bennie Maupin & others) and indie (F'd up & others) and Hercules & L A.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/arts/music/21pare.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print Pareles has TVOTR #1 and also includes Toumani Diabete's solo instrumental kora cd, Erykah Badu, country singer Jamey Johnson, and Laura Marling

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/arts/music/21chin.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print Nate Chinen has Lil Wayne #1, then Argentinean jazz pianist Guillermo Klein, Bon Iver, West African jazz guitarist Lionel Louke, another vote for Jamey Johnson, plus more jazz, Al Green, TVOTR, and No Age

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

7. DARIUS RUCKER “Learn To Live” (Capitol Nashville). More like Hootie and the Albatrosses: Shed of the bar-band dead weight, Mr. Rucker has looked within and discovered a country classicist with a keen pop ear. And then there’s that voice, robust and honeyed and not at all, it turns out, a relic.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sherlock HOOS's Baker Steen Motherfuckers (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 21 December 2008 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I still haven't check out the cd and missed him on those country tv award show. I'm skeptical. Plus Caramanica lists the Gaslight Anthem who I just don't get---Hold Steady fans who listen to old Jersey barband rock and add little exciting to it.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

been reading good shit about that academy is...

usic soulchild (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah idolator loves them, i didn't like their old stuff so i'm not exactly looking to get into them. maybe it's my loss.
fwiw i'm a hold steady fan and i don't particularly like the gaslight anthem

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

also no sign of fleet fuxors on slate or from what i can see frmo NYT

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Xgau did a just bust of Plies in Dec.Guide, but I'm amazed he put *all* that other stuff (even Conor Oberst, even Hayes Carll?!)before Steinski. Second only to Charlie Parker's Bird In Time 1940-1947 on my ballots--true, some of it is dated, but the peaks are so high and sharp, that the valleys seem no bigger, no deeper than those you'd find between yr own lovehandles (or mine anyway,in case yours are gross)

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

Talking 'bout the Steinski being a little dated in spots, def. not Bird.

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jon Caramaburana's taste is like the exact opposite of mine.

abanana, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Caramaburana

i put that in as filler meaning to check his name and then forgot to check it

abanana, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

You don't like rap or country? Or emo or freak-folk or barband indie?

I'm no fan of Ann Powers' writing but I wonder about this Christgau comment about Ann and some of her 2008 faves (who he praises elsewhere and she mentions they had Thanksgiving together )in Slate: Like more female than male critics, Ann has always favored the kind of unabashed emotionality I've been panning as melodrama for 40 years;

I wonder what support he has for that argument?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

I mean Christgau praises Ann elsewhere.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

H'mm--melodrama has its place ("melo"="music"), when well done. In music, and in music reviewing. But I did 'preciate that, despite being buddies with Marcus and even Marsh, xgau cast a cool, though not cold eye on icons like Elvis (P. and C.),Jerry Lee, Neil, etc.

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 20:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

So I guess the handy qualifier would be "*the kind of* unabashed emotionality"-eh who cares

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 20:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

The National Public Radio music website and "all songs considered" concert series is so indie-wuss rock insular. Thanksfully there were a comments on their board taking them to task

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97939029&sc=nl&cc=asc-20081208#commentBlock

December 8, 2008 - It was an impressively bearded year — a year when many bands seemed to retreat to the woods, literally and figuratively, to make quieter, more personal recordings. 2008 was less about innovation and more about getting back to basics: solid songwriting, with simple guitar lines, percussion, and stunning harmonies. While bigger, more established bands like Coldplay and My Morning Jacket returned with bold, anthemic albums, debut CDs from new, smaller acts were the most memorable.

On this edition of All Songs Considered, host Bob Boilen talks with Carrie Brownstein (Monitor Mix blogger), Stephen Thompson (editor for Song of the Day), and Robin Hilton (All Songs producer and host of Second Stage) about the year in music. What were the biggest surprises of 2008? What were the best new bands, or the best songs? Listen and let us know what you think by joining the NPR online community, and sharing your comments below.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 22:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I never thought it possible that I could actively dislike Carrie Brownstein; thanks to this blog, she's done it.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 21 December 2008 23:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

She writes about about her current indie faves and her older '90s ones with the same drab approach. And like the rest of the folks involved with the NPR site she mostly tries to pretend that anyone could ever be interested in anything but her little insular rock world.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 23:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

If only I would proofread my posts and get rid of the typos.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 23:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

Listening to that npr roundtable discussion is painful. They're all so smug. If NPR has the likes of Christgau and Banning Eyre and Ken Tucker and others on the radio why weren't they invited to participate and offer their thoughts on genres that the others were not interested in.

curmudgeon, Monday, 22 December 2008 00:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

haven't been there lately, but they have had some good concerts on there, like Martha Wainwright (that one's downloadable)The best thing about the reviews is that you can check the excerpts vs. the comments; excerpts can be misleading of course, but that makes it more intriguing (or sometimes unintentional musical comedy, the best kind, of course)

dow, Monday, 22 December 2008 02:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Resident Advisor's Top 30 Tracks is up: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=999

30. Sebo K - Diva [Mobilee]
29. Melchior Productions Ltd - Who Can Find Me (I Can't) [Cadenza]
28. Seth Troxler - Love Never Sleeps [Crosstown Rebels]
27. Donnacha Costello - Trust [Minimise]
26. dOP - I'm Just a Man [Eklo]
25. Portable - Release [Perlon]
24. Martyn - Natural Selection [3024]
23. Syclops - Where's Jason's K [DFA]
22. Appleblim & Peverelist - Over Here [Skull Disco]
21. DJ Koze - Zouzou [Kompakt]
20. Invisible Conga People – Cable Dazed [Italians Do It Better]
19. Move D & Benjamin Brunn - Honey [Smallville]
18. Appleblim & Peverelist - Circling [Skull Disco]
17. Stimming - Una Pena [Diynamic]
16. Dave Aju - Crazy Place [Circus Company]
15. The Juan Maclean - Happy House [DFA]
14. Ricardo Villalobos - Enfants (Chants) [Sei Es Drum]
13. Sound Stream - "Live" Goes On [Sound Stream]
12. tobias. - I Can't Fight the Feeling [Wagon Repair]
11. My My - Everybody's Talkin' [Playhouse]
10. Lawrence - Miles [Dial]
09. SIS - Nesrib [Cécille]
08. Move D - Drøne [Modern Love]
07. Omar-S - Psychotic Photosynthesis [FXHE]
06. Hercules & Love Affair - Blind [DFA]
05. Johnny D - Orbitalife [Oslo]
04. The Mole - Baby You're the One [Wagon Repair]
03. Shackleton - Death Is Not Final [Skull Disco]
02. Ricardo Villalobos - Minimoonstar [Perlon]
01. DJ Koze - I Want to Sleep [IRR]

Matos W.K., Monday, 22 December 2008 16:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jon Caramaburana's taste is like the exact opposite of mine.

Caramanica's list confirmed to me that he and Tom Breihan have v. similar tastes.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Monday, 22 December 2008 16:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

I never thought it possible that I could actively dislike Carrie Brownstein; thanks to this blog, she's done it.

i don't know somehow her being into earnest indie beard boys is no big surprise. in general i try to avoid reading what musicians i like have to say about musicians they like, cuz it's so often disappointing. (it's even worse when some indie rocker talks about that one hip-hop album they love, or when a rapper starts going on about john mayer or whatever.) there are obvious exceptions, yr j0hn d. types who are music dudes and total music geeks at the same time. but it doesn't seem that common.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 22 December 2008 16:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

this exercise makes me hate all music, or at least wonder what the fuck is up with my ears, or how much these dumb fucks are getting paid. the Cool Kids might very well be the worst 'rap' duo that have ever become wildly popular-- they're a terrible group who act like assholes (i've done hospitality and shit for them) and their fans don't know shit about shit.

also, TV on the Radio? should i listen to it? i love Tunde's voice, but 'Cookie Mountain' sort of made me throw up in my mouth a little, so i just ignored the newest stuff.

the table is the table, Monday, 22 December 2008 16:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

also, my radar for dance music has obviously left the contemporary scene. i know, like, 6 of the RA records, and only one of them made my top 10. two of them in my top 20.

the table is the table, Monday, 22 December 2008 16:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

this exercise makes me hate all music, or at least wonder what the fuck is up with my ears, or how much these dumb fucks are getting paid. the Cool Kids might very well be the worst 'rap' duo that have ever become wildly popular-- they're a terrible group who act like assholes (i've done hospitality and shit for them) and their fans don't know shit about shit.

i have never done hospitality for the Cool Kids but co-sign

Maxie "Blapsie Maxie" Rosenbloom as Butch (some dude), Monday, 22 December 2008 16:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

i mean jesus christ those dudes are terrible and every retro comparison they get is an insult to the '80s

Maxie "Blapsie Maxie" Rosenbloom as Butch (some dude), Monday, 22 December 2008 16:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Dear Science and Cookie Mountain are sonically different to my ears so maybe you'll like it more. But maybe you won't.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 December 2008 16:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

(i've done hospitality and shit for them)

http://www.geargeek.net/images/moar-cat.jpg

vladimir put on (ft. kanye west) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 December 2008 16:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

become wildly popular-

uh?

K DEF FROM REAL LIVE (deej), Monday, 22 December 2008 18:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

let's not get into the whole fucking multi-platinum mainstream 'wildly popular' and magazine editor/RSS feed 'wildly popular' and just acknowledge that there are way too many people being enthusiastic about the Cool Kids

shiroiblappinhoes (some dude), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Muzzle Of Bees
http://www.muzzleofbees.com/2008/12/22/muzzle-of-bees-best-albums-of-2008/

Boomkat
http://www.boomkat.com/charts.cfm?id=432

Once again one of the most interesting top 100 lists around. Anyone know The Fun Years?

01 The Fun Years - Baby, It's Cold Inside
02 Portishead - Third
03 Stephan Mathiew - Radioland
04 Gas - Nah Und Fern
05 Newworldaquarium - The Dead Bears
06 Machinefabriek - Dauw
07 The Caretaker - Persistent Repetition Of Phrases
08 Richard Skelton - Marking Time
09 Kevin Drumm - Imperial Distortion
10 Fennesz - Black Sea
11 Claro Intelecto - Metanarrative
12 Andy Stott - Unknown Exception
13 Grouper - Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill
14 Ø (Mika Vainio) - Oleva
15 Mountains - Mountains Mountains Mountains LP
16 Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
17 Jacaszek - Treny
18 Shed - Shedding The Past
19 Emearlds - Solar Bridge
20 SND - 4, 5, 6

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 22 December 2008 19:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

let's not get into the whole fucking multi-platinum mainstream 'wildly popular' and magazine editor/RSS feed 'wildly popular' and just acknowledge that there are way too many people being enthusiastic about the Cool Kids

― shiroiblappinhoes (some dude), Monday, December 22, 2008 11:06 AM Bookmark

one is too many

The Reverend, Monday, 22 December 2008 19:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Anyone know The Fun Years?

It's a blend of Fennesz, Stars of the Lid, Gas and the likes. And it's pretty great too, but considering how most of the music in that vain is great to me, not groundbreaking, number one-like great. But it's still great.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 December 2008 20:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

x-post
I think the Cool Kids are harmless. Yea, yea they not ATCQ and yea Mr. Hospitality they acted like jerks (as if there aren't millions of musicians/rappers who do that) but it just doesn't seem worth the effort or the energy to spend your time hatin' on them

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 04:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

"They're assholes" is really not a good criticism of someone's music. (I have no opinion of the Cool Kids at all.)

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 23 December 2008 08:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah but "barely rapping over refried Clipse beats" is.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 08:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

are people getting return emails after submitting P&J ballots yet?

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 14:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah mine came w/ a jamba juice coupon too

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 14:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

the fun years are GREBT

sorta minimalist textural electronic music. it's easy to put it on and forget it's on, but it's really nice.

Beatrix Kiddo, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 16:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

fRoots Magazine poll http://www.frootsmag.com/content/critpoll/

New Album Of 2008 winners
1. Jim Moray Low Culture (NIAG)
2. Toumani Diabate The Mandé Variations (World Circuit)
3. Rokia Traore Tchamantché (Nonesuch/Tama)
4. Umalali The Garifuna Women’s Project (Cumbancha)
5. Kasai Allstars Congotronics 3: In The 7th Moon, The Chief Turned Into A Swimming Fish And Ate The Head Of His Enemy By Magic (Crammed)
6. Bellowhead Matachin (Navigator)
7. Issa Bagayogo Mali Koura (Six Degrees)
8. Eliza Carthy Dreams Of Breathing Underwater (Topic)
9. Taksim Trio Taksim Trio (Doublemoon)
10. Natacha Atlas & The Mazeeka Ensemble Ana Hina (World Village)

The Next 10:
11=Dub Colossus A Town Called Addis (Real World)
Mary Hampton My Mother’s Children (Navigator)
Seun Kuti & Fela’s Egypt 80 Many Things (Tôt Ou Tard)
Rajery, Ballaké Sissoko & Driss El Maloumi 3MA (Contre-Jour)
15=Buika Niña De Fuego (Warner Spain Classics & Jazz)
Spiers & Boden Vagabond (Navigator)
17=Lila Downs Shake Away (EMI)
Melingo Maldito Tango (Mañana)
Warsaw Village Band Infinity (Jaro)
Mariza Terra (EMI Portugal)
Runners Up (alphabetically): Amadou & Mariam Welcome To Mali (Because); Les Amazones De Guinée Wamato (Stern’s); Saban Bajramovic with Mostar Sevdah Reunion Saban (Snail); Debashish Bhattacharya Calcutta Chronicles: Indian Slide Guitar Odyssey (Riverboat); Blue Blokes 3 Stubble (Fledg’ling); Carolina Chocolate Drops Heritage (DixieFrog); Chumbawamba The Boy Bands Have Won (No Masters); Mercan Dede 800 (Doublemoon); DeVotchKa A Mad & Faithful Telling (Anti); Chris Foster Outsiders (Green Man); Mor Karbasi The Beauty & The Sea (Mintaka); Kries Kocijani (Kopito); Jackie Oates The Violet Hour (Chudleigh Roots); Ivo Papasov Dance Of The Falcon (World Village); Karine Polwart Fairest Floo’er (Hegri Music); Rupa & The April Fishes Extraordinary Rendition (Cumbancha); Terakaft Akh Issudar (Tapsit/IRL); Riccardo Tesi Presente Remoto (Felmay); Huong Thanh & Nguyen Lê Fragile Beauty (ACT); Abigail Washburn & The Sparrow Quartet Abigail Washburn & The Sparrow Quartet (Nettwerk).

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 December 2008 03:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Jim Moray's a Bristol, UK folk/indie guy who uses drum machine beats and has Bristol rapper Bubbz on one track I heard on his myspace page

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 December 2008 03:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

But he sounds more conventionally Brit-pop-folkie on other tracks.

That Diabate solo instrumental cd is like a classical album--it's real nice I just prefer him with a band and percussion and vocals. I don't think Nonesuch is releasing the Rokia Traore or the new Amadou & mariam in the US until 2009.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 December 2008 03:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

Congotronics 3 seems to reach more different audiences than some of the others above--the indie folks who like Konono plus the various whirled music listeners

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 December 2008 16:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

That Slate.com chat above between Christgau, Jody Rosen, and Ann Powers just keeps going. I think they're up to day 9 or something. Christgau went for the Franco compilation that the fRoots (FolkRoots once upon a time) folks named #one reissue. There are so many Franco reissues out there (and I already have a few) so I never got this one

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 December 2008 17:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Congotronics 3 is kind of a misnomer -- Kasai All-Stars are a different group from Konono No. 1, and Congotronics 2 was a comp. I think Kasai All-Stars do a more interesting thing, maybe because they are a super-group made up of three or four different crews from a different area of DR Congo.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 25 December 2008 19:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Slate thing is finished, each of the last three posts explicitly say that they're each writer's final word in the dialogue.

Matos W.K., Thursday, 25 December 2008 19:47 (eight years ago) Permalink

I like all three writers but nothing any of them are saying is news in the slightest, and none of them are out to change anyone else's mind or anything.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 25 December 2008 19:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

well here's mine :P

http://www.moteldemoka.com/2008/12/08/mokas-top-10-albums-2008/

1. Paavoharju - Laulu Laakson Kukista (Fonal)
2. Jacaszek - Treny (Miasmah)
3. Scott Tuma - Not For Nobody (Digitalis)
4. Shed - Shedding the Past (Ostgut Ton)
5. Tape - Luminarium (Häpna)
6. Fleet Foxes - fleet foxes (Sub pop)
7. Bruno Pronsato - Why can’t we be like us (Hello? Repeat)
8. Grouper - Dragging a dead dear up the hill (Type)
9. Lykke Li - Youth Novels (LL)
10. Zdzislaw Piernik & Piotr Zbrodzki - Namanga (Vivo)

Moka, Thursday, 25 December 2008 20:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Why should they be out to change anyone's mind?

Matos W.K., Thursday, 25 December 2008 20:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

didnt say they had to, just it's more interesting when they try, like on some of the old slate film threads. this was like 'well i love you but i liked this record better, no offense' 'why none taken!' which is fine, but kinda ho-hum.

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 25 December 2008 20:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I can see that.

Matos W.K., Thursday, 25 December 2008 20:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

La Onda Tropical Blog list http://laondatropical.blogspot.com/

Calle 13 - Los De Atrás Vienen Conmigo

Choc Quib Town - Somos Pacifico

Aterciopelados - Rio

Julieta Venegas - MTV Unplugged

Acida - Greatest Hits

Bajofondo - Mar Dulce

Bostich + Fussible - Tijuana Sound Machine

Plastilina Mosh - All U Need Is Mosh

Orishas - Cosita Buena

I Like It Like That Fania Remixes

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 December 2008 15:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

Club Fonograma's Best Songs of '08 [Latin-pop]http://clubfonograma.blogspot.com/2008/12/best-songs-of-2008-part-iv-25-01.html

25. "Hansel y Gretel's Bollywood Story", Porter (Atemahawke)
24. "Terrorize You/Disco Flor", Turbopotamos (Disco Suite)
23. "Pijamas", Babasonicos (Mucho)
22. "Algo Musical", Nejo y Dalmata feat. Arcangel (Broke & Famous)
21. "Sin las patas traseras", Bam Bam (Bam Bam)

20. "Bonita", Cabas (Amores Dificiles)
19. "Plastic Caramelo", Plastic Caramelo (Single)
18. "Mas que a nada en el mundo", Austin TV (Mas que a nada en el mundo OST)
17. "Borron y cuenta nueva", Adriana Lucia (Porro Nuevo)
16. "Laydown", Chikita Violenta (The Stars and Suns Sessions)

15. "Shiva", Austin TV (Fontana Bella)
14. "Conteo Regresivo", Gilberto Santa Rosa (Contraste)
13. "Para que celebren todos", El Guincho (Alegranza!)
12. "Bestia", Hello Seahorse! (Bestia)
11. "Ta Perdoado", Maria Rita (Samba Meu)

10. "El Idolo", Adanowsky (Etoile Eternelle)
09. "Reptilectric", Zoe (Reptilectric)
08. "Cigarettes", Russian Red (I love your glasses) (LIVE @ BUHOL)
07. "Nada", Juan Son (Mermaid Sashimi)
06. "Normal", Ximena Sarinana (Mediocre)

05. "Que Lloren", Calle 13 (Los de atras vienen conmigo)
04. "AV Corrientes", Prietto Viaja al Comos con Mariano (Prietto Viaja al Cosmos con Mariano)
03. "Microdancing", Babasonicos (Mucho)
02. "El Presente", Julieta Venegas (MTV Unplugged)
01. "Palmitos Park", El Guincho (Alegranza!)

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 December 2008 15:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

The Venegas cd is such great pop. I think indie folks and others all would enjoy it (even if she's singing in Spanish).

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 December 2008 17:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

No problem (actually I just discovered thanks to a link on the soon to call it quits La Onda Tropical blog). Re: the Club Fonograma list, I'm not crazy about the song or 2 from rock-en-espanol act Porter I checked out ages ago, but the list includes Ximena Sarinana, a new pop act who appeals to some Venegas fans (and showed up on some Billboard critic lists)including me. I never did get Brazilian mpb sorta bossa-nova singer Maria Rita's latest (I like her earlier stuff) but I bet its perty.

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/sashafrerejones/2008/12/the-best-record.html SFJ comments and link to his lists

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 December 2008 19:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rhapsody Chuck It All In blog (a/k/a me), Best Albums of the Year, Part 1 (of 3), #s 101 - 150:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/12/best-albums-of-the-year-countdown-part-1-s-101-150.html

xhuxk, Friday, 26 December 2008 23:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

whenever i read sasha make offhand statements i disagree w/ like 80% of them or think they're just weird generalizations or preferences stated as if they have some larger significance -- like saying rihanna hasnt really had a hit since 'umbrella', just bcuz he (i guess?) doesnt like "please dont stop the music" which, altho u can say its not as GOOD as umbrella or even quite as ubiquitous certainly qualifies as a pretty damn big HIT while he just sorta implies that you know shes just dropped the ball ever since. or that nyer entry where he says busta rhymes "peak" was his first solo single?? really random -- i was in h.s. when all those singles came out, 'eyes to see' and 'gimme some more' was as big and bigger. its not like hes 'wrong' bcuz he can just back up to 'personal preference' i guess, but he states them like they're the general consensus or some real universal truth and its not even reflective of popular consensus its just kinda o_O

choom gangsta (deej), Friday, 26 December 2008 23:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

and that new busta single is aite but its not even as good as 'arab money' albeit less offensive

choom gangsta (deej), Friday, 26 December 2008 23:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

That world music list curmudgeon posted on Christmas Eve ends up with Abigail Washburn and the Sparrow Quartet's s/t, which might be great, at least at times, considering a set they did on public radio's "Woodsongs." She lived in China, brought back some tunes and instruments to mix into her Americana; some very attentive players in the Quartet, and maybe a couple of big or recognizable names, but the main thing is the tone and and tensile lyricism of playing, singing, writing. Nothing too gushy, though you might hear it in Starbucks. Some of it didn't work, but most of it did. The show's got a webcast they mention pretty often, so the set might be archived, and worth checking out, though the host/interview is a bit gushy("My name is Michael Jonathan, I'm a folksinger and treehugger").

dow, Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

x-post to Deej re Sasha FJ and Busta--

Is that the one (the new one?) with the James Brown meets PE feel?

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah i didnt mean to say new -- there is a new one tho

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

sasha's pick is the PE sounding track yes

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

when is that fucking album going to come out already, i'm sick of streams and bullshit.

It's snow, right? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

alex ross from the nyer also did a list, his covering the classical recordings of the year.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/tny/2008/12/alex-rosss-ten-best-recordings.html

Moreno, Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

I LOIKE Don't routhc me butr fuck artab money wtf is that

CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (The Reverend), Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

lol

CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA (The Reverend), Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

we gettin reverend money

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's weird that no one ended up caring about that song

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

well they changed 'aye-rab' to 'ahrab' so

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

for a while there i had trouble not reading every instance of "arab" as "ay-rab"

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

it was way catchier when it was racistier

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

i feel the same way about marcello posts

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 December 2008 09:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

i always see the sfj steez as a kind of purposely antiquated throwback to old school new yorker (and beyond, i suppose) crit, if that makes sense. it's hard to break down in so many words but i guess at the heart of it is an unperturbed belief that the job of a critic is fundamentally something of a sinecure rather than that of a responsible representer of dialogues, and while personally i do prefer my critics to go out and stunt if they must insist on taking to the stage the problem with sfj is that it shows up a certain thoughtlessness in regards to his own crippled little biases. however irritating he may be though, the sly benefit of his gnomicism is that you'd have to come a bit better than over-earnestly arguing the toss over a couple of trifling points* to knock him off his lofty perch. and really who can be bothered with that.

(*he's not really saying rihanna dropped the ball but that whatever numbers 'please don't stop the music' did it carried a ball rihanna didn't inflate in the first place, unlike 'umbrella'; yeah he's deliberately folded in an extra meaning into "hitness" there, but whatever. the busta contention really is a case of personal preference since either way it bears no particular relevance right now.)

the love song of j alfred pitchfork (r|t|c), Saturday, 27 December 2008 13:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

it's true about son of bazerk though!

the love song of j alfred pitchfork (r|t|c), Saturday, 27 December 2008 13:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

His #1 album choice Bon Iver refers to himself as neo-soul on his myspace site. I guess that's how SFJ rationalizes that choice with his complaints from last year about indie-rockers.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 December 2008 17:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

nominees for a Southern soul list--albums and singles (anybody can vote?)

http://bluescritic.com/SSVoting2008.htm

curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 December 2008 18:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ross list => apart from viols its uninspiring...

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 December 2008 18:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=36618
had me really o_O at the compression of time in this part:

When Nas recorded his debut and career high point, 1994’s Illmatic, he wasn’t old enough to drink. The immaturity showed: Soon after, he and Jay-Z entered into a long-running and contrived pro-wrestling-style beef that seems petty and foolish in retrospect.

I LIKE HOO_S!! (some dude), Sunday, 28 December 2008 19:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Music 2008: Saying Goodbye to Pain

I read this is "Music 2008: Saying Goodbye to Palin".

xhuxk, Sunday, 28 December 2008 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

bon iver is opposite of soul

"made smashable" (k3vin k.), Sunday, 28 December 2008 19:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

I read this is "Music 2008: Saying Goodbye to Palin".

If only...

ilxor, Monday, 29 December 2008 01:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

had me really o_O at the compression of time in this part:

When Nas recorded his debut and career high point, 1994’s Illmatic, he wasn’t old enough to drink. The immaturity showed: Soon after, he and Jay-Z entered into a long-running and contrived pro-wrestling-style beef that seems petty and foolish in retrospect.

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― I LIKE HOO_S!! (some dude), Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:02 AM Bookmark

The (wtf) dual review of The Game and Solange is really challopy, too.

Дyo! (The Reverend), Monday, 29 December 2008 02:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Naz vs. Jay-Z was the best thread ever. What was its lifespan? 9/11 didn't stop it, I know that (Noted in passing:"Your towers fell because you're weak.")

dow, Monday, 29 December 2008 02:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nas vs. Jay-Z wasn't bad either.

dow, Monday, 29 December 2008 02:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh man it's such a shame that review is so boneheadedly dull cos pairing up solange & the game is actually a GREAT idea - her paulo coelho = his dr dre!!

the love song of j alfred pitchfork (r|t|c), Monday, 29 December 2008 02:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

oof yeah that's full of clangers

Beyoncé and 50 Cent can barely attract interest to their own projects, let alone ones by baby siblings and irate former collaborators. Beyoncé’s 2006 album, B’Day, and 50 Cent’s 2007 album, Curtis, were both critical and commercial letdowns.

i mean like even beyond the fact that she's already released a more recent album that's doing solid business, B'Day sold marginally less than Dangerously and generally got better reviews. certainly not a Curtis-type fiasco, anyway, but i guess whatever makes their tenuous angle work.

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Monday, 29 December 2008 04:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

b'day was huge 'culturally' as well

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 29 December 2008 05:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah wtf, i was under the impression bday was widely thought to be her best work, and one of the best pop albums of the decade. my op at least

"made smashable" (k3vin k.), Monday, 29 December 2008 06:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

im sorta whatever on it personally but my impression of the consensus w/ r&b fans i know irl was that it was pretty much an artistic success

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 29 December 2008 07:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

Regarding the Pfork end of year list:

Scores By Rank (Top 25)
1 - 9.0
2 - 8.8
3 - 9.2
4 - 8.8
5 - 9.2
6 - 9.2
7 - 8.8
8 - 8.5
9 - 9.1
10 - 8.8
11 - 8.7
12 - 8.6
13 - 7.8
14 - 8.6
15 - 7.8
16 - 8.5
17 - 8.8
18 - 8.1
19 - 8.5
20 - 8.6
21 - 7.6
22 - 7.1
23 - 7.0
24 - 8.5
25 - 8.5

Mean Score: 8.5
Median Score: 8.6
Highest Scoring (9.2): #3 No Age, #5 Deerhunter, #6 TV on the Radio
Lowest Scoring (7.0): #23 Hot Chip

... if anyone cares

ilxor, Monday, 29 December 2008 16:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

So you like Rick Springfield's latest better than Toby Keith's greatest hits, the Kid Creole Going Places Comp, and – Nigeria Disco Funk Special: The Sound Of The Underground Lagos Dancefloor 1974-1979 (Soundway), to name a few others farther down in your list. Interesting.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

So you like Rick Springfield's latest better than Toby Keith's greatest hits, the Kid Creole Going Places Comp, and – Nigeria Disco Funk Special: The Sound Of The Underground Lagos Dancefloor 1974-1979 (Soundway), to name a few others farther down in your list. Interesting.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

Chuck, so your Rhapsody list means you like Jamey Johnson's new one and Rick Springfield's new one better than the Toby Keith greatest hits comp you listed (and better than the Kid Creole comp and numerous others farther down in your list)? Interesting.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oops, wrong thread

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